Enablers Of Evil

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An important insight of Karl Marx was that rights, as in individual rights established in the law, create inequality. The reason for this is obvious. People are not equal so left to their own devices, they will have different life outcomes. More important, since human society is defined by scarcity, this will inevitably result in the unequal distribution of the benefits of society. A rights regime will impact the distributive choices because the more talented will lay claim to a greater share of benefits.

Communism would solve this problem by first producing superabundance, so that those distributive choices were greatly simplified. Of course, superabundance is only possible when you eliminate gross inequality. This leads to Marx’s expression, “From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.” This is a main difference with socialism, which seeks to close the gap between the rich and poor through redistribution of wealth.

This is all sounds quaint and a bit nutty in the current age, but it turns out these problems are going to be front and center in the diverse future. If you listen to the diversity warriors, most of what they are saying revolves around what Marxists would have called distributive choices. Instead of thinking about the distribution of benefits based along individual or class lines, like the communists, they think about the problem along lines of group identity.

The logic flows from egalitarianism. If all people are equal, inequality must be the result of something other than nature. Individual choice can explain differences in individuals, but what explains measurable differences in groups of people? The only option once you eliminate the obvious is the structure of society itself. The reason blacks, for example, are overrepresented in prison is the criminal justice system distributes justice unequally between the races.

This is what the diversity warriors mean when they talk about whiteness or white supremacy culture. These are the unwritten rules of society that benefit one group over other groups. Since it is white societies that make this form of madness possible, they naturally conclude that white society is the problem. As insane as it is, the diversity warriors are not irrational. From their starting premise, theirs is the only rational answer for why we have inequality in our societies.

This is why conservatives are worthless against these arguments. Here is a “conservative case for Diversity, Equity and Inclusion” post in National Review that is a good example of the problem. The author thinks there is some accommodation within his conventional American view of politics for the politics of diversity. He assumes that these people will accept equality of opportunity, when in fact they view that argument as the problem they are seeking to eliminate.

This is the central problem of diversity. Scarcity is a permanent feature of all human societies, even wealthy ones. For example, there is a finite amount of health care in America, which means some people get less, maybe even no health care, while others get the heath care they need. Since there are still some market forces at work, rich people will get luxurious levels of health care. Dick Cheney, for example, was able to buy a heart for himself.

Further, Mother Nature does not distribute her gifts equally among people, so no two people are identical and no two groups of people are equal. Combined with the scarcity problem, it means there will be an unequal distribution of benefits between people and also groups of people. Even more important, the more diverse your society, the less equal the outcomes appear. The reason is there are lots of people with a grievance for not being in the top group of society.

The way to think of it is this. In 1950’s America, blacks were a little more than 10% of the population, while whites were a little less than 90%. There was a small percentage of Asians and other. In a world where 10% of the population has a racial grievance, most of the rest can safely ignore the complaints. In a majority-minority society, the majority always has a beef with the minority group at the top, so that minority group must always be on guard against the majority.

This is why the arguments in favor of natural rights or equal opportunity sound increasingly ridiculous to people who live in the world. To conservatives they make perfect sense, because their income depends upon maintaining these fictions. To the diversity warriors, these arguments are confirmation that they have the morally superior argument and therefore they are justified in pushing even harder. The conservative case for diversity is exactly what it claims.

Instead of letting nature take its course, the Marxists imagined an administrative state making the distributive choices. It was this managerial layer that would determine “according to his needs” issue. The diversity warriors have assumed control of the managerial state and the corresponding administrative state. They are now proceeding to remedy the equality problem. From each race according to their abilities, to each race according to their needs.

Of course, this has no better chance of working than Marxism. Unlike communism, however, this new egalitarian drive will not just make people poorer. It will unleash the passions of cultural differences that cannot be remedied. These differences are the product of thousands of years of separation. This is ultimately the conservative case for diversity. It promises to unleash 10,000 years of evolutionary differences within the confines of Western societies.

This is what makes American conservatism so evil. It is the sugary drink in which the poison of egalitarianism is dosed to society. The diversity warriors believe they are on the side of angels, while the so-called conservative know otherwise, but they choose to cash in on the madness. The simpleton who wrote that NRO piece is too dumb to get this, but his handlers surely know better. Yet, they volunteer to be the willing accomplices to the executioners of Western civilization.


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Alexander Scipio
Alexander Scipio
1 year ago

With the absolute collapse of sub-Saharan African countries once whites leave or are pushed out of positions, I find myself wondering about the future of Africa – and the West. Affirmative Action, as noted often, is a race to mediocrity in an ever-more-complex and merit-driven world. Red China is not pursuing this nonsense. The same GAE management with the hubris and ignorance to think they can, and demand to, destroy Russia is pushing ever-more-Woke, DIE, AA policies across the West with the fantasy that these will improve, rather than destroy the West. But … If we overthrow AA (SCOTUS, this… Read more »

Davidcito
Reply to  Alexander Scipio
1 year ago

Peter zeihan believes economically, europe, russia, china, and japan didnt have enough children to even be considered for world leaders in the next century. Maybe france and turkey, argentina and usa will be okay. That means nobody will be able to guard the trade routes necessary for africas previous 50 years of population growth. Unless somebody makes a bold move to recolonize africa for resources, hundreds of millions will probably die off, goes the theory

CatoTheZoomer
CatoTheZoomer
1 year ago

Nat Review used to have a kind of literary quality, I think. It seems impossible to me to write “a gay Uganda-born educator of Egyptian and Indian descent who was raised in Canada and kicked out of her Islamic school at 14 for questioning dogma” at West Point without some wry acknowledgement of the Onion-tier funniness of that info tidbit, but if you just put these interns from the local edu-factory’s Young Reagan Leader Institute on it, they will write it with a straight word-processor face. Are these kids actually that brainwashed or are they just auditioning for the think-tank… Read more »

CatoTheZoomer
CatoTheZoomer
Reply to  CatoTheZoomer
1 year ago

For the record: I think this woman and her odd Wall Street-friendly notion of “Diversity without Division” (!!) are not only fair game but potentially enlightening/amusing subjects for a young Con Inc. hire to weave some words around, but she’s capable of writing the brochures herself. That’s her entire job in fact. Andrew Ferguson at the late Weekly Standard used to take examples from a service, called McCune Miller, which was just a syndicator for various academic research verbiage press releases, and comically perform “news analysis” on the claims. Not comedy in the sense of Jon Stewart propaganda preaching (which… Read more »

Anti-Gnostic
Anti-Gnostic
Reply to  CatoTheZoomer
1 year ago

Death to the think tanks.

Under-remarked point.

TomC
TomC
1 year ago

It’s obvious that the solution is to breed every one together so that the differences aren’t so stark.

Xman
Xman
Reply to  TomC
1 year ago

I think that’s precisely what they want — to achieve global communism by breeding the white race out of existence and creating a single, worldwide brown race.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Xman
1 year ago

And in the process, placing a very low ceiling on what the human race is capable of. Better that everybody is mediocre at best than anybody be superior. If, throughout history, the human race had been a uniform caramel sludge, there would be very little history, just a dim and dismal trace of mud huts and cassava gruel.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Xman
1 year ago

Meanwhile, they’ll intermarry like European potentates in the 18th century, necer sullying their own blood lines.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Xman
1 year ago

That’s the Kalergi plan in a nutshell.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  TomC
1 year ago

There was some tool in the Instapundit comments pumping that, “we’ll all be a shade of brown and live in peace”, never minding that there are already countries that look exactly like that and no one would confuse them with “peaceful”.

miforest
Member
Reply to  TomC
1 year ago

It’s obvious to me that actualy won’t work. somolia , syria, lebanon, The congo, and other places where everyone is the same color seem are violent hellholes.. Way to simplistic. the english and irish are all the sme color and look at the peacful history they have.

Vizzini
Member
1 year ago

So, Dilbert has been completely canceled, dropped by its syndicate. Dilbert will only be available on Scott Adams’ website. For speaking the truth.

https://www.scottadamssays.com/episode-2032-scott-adams-part2-dilbert-is-fully-canceled-wuhan-virus-leak-katie-hobbs-lab-leak-more/

That’s what we’re up against.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Vizzini
1 year ago

As I responded to someone below, from cursory research Adams appears to be childless, twice divorced and apparently has FU money. He is not fragile and is thus dangerous to the Regime. He apparently will not back down and will continue to have a large Facebook following. This contemptible culture has produced a lot of childless, atomized, but wealthy folks. It was encouraged, and may become Exhibit A in Be Careful What You Wish For. This is nothing but upside for us, and it will be gratifying to watch people in the future asked whether they agree or disagree that… Read more »

ponder Ray
ponder Ray
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 year ago

There was a book published years ago about a white woman taking some kind of melanin pill that turned her skin black so she could experience firsthand, and write about, racism in the 1960’s South, where are those pills today because we need them…

Former Wise Man
Former Wise Man
Reply to  ponder Ray
1 year ago

It was a man, John Howard Griffin, who had some kind of treatment to render him able to pass for a black in the South. His book was titled Black Like Me. I read it as a teenager. That was a long time ago, so the details have faded in my mind, but he reported that essentially every white person treated him like proto-dirt. One incident he described that I do remember was encountering a white man who looked vaguely academic, complete with smoking a pipe. Surely this benign contemplative would be sympathetic, or at least not hostile, Griffin figured.… Read more »

Davidcito
Reply to  Former Wise Man
1 year ago

Heres a quote from the book: “On a bus trip, Griffin began to give his seat to a white woman, but disapproving looks from black passengers stopped him”

So the blacks didnt want their brother to be nice to the white lady.

C matt
C matt
Reply to  Vizzini
1 year ago

Maybe the strip will get better now that no censors will edit it.

JEB
JEB
Reply to  Vizzini
1 year ago

I’m sad because I see this as probably a blunder. Scott Adams has stated on more than one occasion that he was trying to get himself canceled, but I think he may have chosen the wrong hill to die on. The goal should have been to get canceled over statements that would look like common sense to as many normies as possible, in order to draw them in and lead them further. If he had had been canceled for saying something like “I’m pretty sure the police would treat blacks better if they stopped committing so much crime“, or even… Read more »

Davidcito
Reply to  JEB
1 year ago

I listen to his show while im at the gym. Hes about half as smart as he thinks he is with an even worse memory. He walks back a lot of his claims and demonstrates absurd mental gynastics to argue that what he said word for word didnt mean what we all thought. Its like arguing with a woman or chatgpt. You can do a Scott Adams vs Scott Adams video to show him contradicting himself pretty easily. Im glad hes warming up to white identity. He implied that he lives in a white neighborhood to avoid blacks, etc, which… Read more »

RealityRules
RealityRules
1 year ago

Well, it looks like the teachers in Rhode Island (??) are going to do student loan forgiveness for all non-white teachers. I think this is a test of the teacher patronage system. Will they accept being left out of the gibs because of their race? Or, will they kiss the feet and accept this as penance for being born white?

The teachers unions are a huge part of the Democrat’s patronage system. It doesn’t seem wise to sew division within it. Unless the plan is to disallow white teachers at some point.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  RealityRules
1 year ago

Providence is two-thirds non-White. Rhode Island is below 80 percent White. Some of New England is looking a lot like AINO.

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 year ago

I see. In the city it is majority non-white so the patrons who matter are fortifying themselves. Makes sense. I went from a white pill to a bitter black pill.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  RealityRules
1 year ago

Black pills are hard to avoid. Here’s something to whiten it up, though: Puritans will have to pay Mrs. Shaneeka to keep the lil’ chirren retarded.

Din C. Nuttin
Din C. Nuttin
1 year ago

Scott Adams – my new hero.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Din C. Nuttin
1 year ago

With one little podcast, he did more for white people than Trump did in four years in the White House.

Weeg
Weeg
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

Scott Adams seems surprised by black dislike of Whites.

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Weeg
1 year ago

Weeg: “Scott Adams seems surprised by black dislike of Whites.” From Wikipedia: Born June 8, 1957 (age 65) Windham, New York Again from Wikipedia: As of the census of 2000… [t]he racial makeup of the town was 98.13% White, 0.36% Black or African American, 0.42% Native American, 0.06% Asian, 0.42% from other races, and 0.60% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 1.75% of the population. Note that 0.36% Black or African American in a year 2000 population of 1660 souls is (0.0036) * 1660 = 5.976 So about 6 kneegr0ws total in his hometown… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Bourbon
1 year ago

Sounds a lovely place.

TomA
TomA
1 year ago

At the root, we are all like ping pong balls being swept down the Mississippi River by a powerful current. Up ahead is a rapids that will set these ping pong balls into violent collision (its already begun, there are now thousands of videos online showing the pot beginning its boil). And the spring is winding tighter and tighter among the sane as our political “leadership” continues its addiction to corruption, incompetence, and treason. This country has never experienced worst leadership across-the-board than at the present time. So what happens when the pot boils over? To be determined, but you… Read more »

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  TomA
1 year ago

TomA: “This country has never experienced worst leadership across-the-board than at the present time.”

Uh, yea, right…

https://tinyurl.com/2p8jespz

https://tinyurl.com/55ra5we8

https://tinyurl.com/57rs9jtu

Etc etc etc…

[If I were to poast all the URLs, the comment filter would explode.]

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Anti-Gnostic
Anti-Gnostic
1 year ago

The simpleton who wrote that NRO piece is too dumb to get this, but his handlers surely know better.

My impression of most of my fellow humans, unfortunately, is that they can talk themselves into anything. Political philosophies like classical liberalism and Marxism seems to activate the same brain pathways as religious belief.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Anti-Gnostic
1 year ago

Indeed, I personally know people who sincerely believe the most absurd nonsense. I’ve learned not to underestimate the incidence of stupidity in prominent places.

C matt
C matt
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

The stupid are not surprising. It’s the otherwise intelligent who still swallow the woke that shock me.

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  C matt
1 year ago

C Matt: “It’s the otherwise intelligent who still swallow the woke that shock me.”

We badly misunderestimated the omnipotent power with which “Social Proof” or “Social Approval” holds sway over at-risk personality types.

There are lots of rather high-IQ folks who would rather die than commit a perceived high society faux pas.

To our great detriment, the Frankfurt School reverse-engineered the algorithm for Inner Hajnalian social-norm-imposition, and has been using that algorithm to play the Inner Hajnalian sh!tlibs like a fiddle.

https://tinyurl.com/yj9y4hb4

T. Tasch
T. Tasch
1 year ago

From reading todays post and the comments I am convinced there can not be a harmonious society based on diversity in a county or in the world. There will be suppression or slavery of some race, religion or class by a dominant group with all the power.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  T. Tasch
1 year ago

Diversity and division have the same etymological root. Diversity is the source of all conflict. Always has been. Attempting to structure a society around diversity is folly at best, madness at worst.

B125
B125
1 year ago

White people are in the way of utopian equality. It isn’t logical. But they feel that we are the biggest obstacle to reaching the promised land. As long as there are white people around, inequality persists, so we need to be dealt with. Remember that only white people can be racist. 2016 alerted the elites to the White Person Problem. Trump caused them to freak out and they started attacking us instead of letting us grill ourselves into oblivion. 80 million white people voted for Trump in 2020 in the face of the largest psy-op in history, with the entire… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  B125
1 year ago

“Just as the engineers & kulaks wrecked Stalin’s 5 year plans, white people wreck the regime’s DIE plans. Take from that what you want.”

If past is prologue, there will be mass graves. That’s what I take from that.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 year ago

If the members of the Power Structure occupy those graves, I’m good with that.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

Each time a system like this one had mass graves members of the Power Structure occupied some of them.

Neon_Bluebeard
Neon_Bluebeard
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 year ago

But sadly not the vast majority of them.

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

Ostei Kozelskii: “If the members of the Power Structure occupy those graves, I’m good with that.”

That was one of Saint Joseph Djugashvili’s singularly hyper-genius-tier insights: To defeat the House on the Embankment, one must EMPTY the House on the Embankment.

https://tinyurl.com/2p9hjszb

Compsci
Compsci
1 year ago

“The diversity warriors have assumed control of the managerial state and the corresponding administrative state. They are now proceeding to remedy the equality problem. From each race according to their abilities, to each race according to their needs.” This “philosophy” is a two edged sword. We saw it in the USSR and we are seeing it in the USA. In the USSR, with State control of resources for purchase and wages to buy such, the best and brightest did what they could to maximize return on their efforts—they simply did the least amount of work for the State mandated, and… Read more »

Ryan
Ryan
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

Just to piggyback, even from each race according to ability to each according to need would be a much, much better hell than putting Jaquarious in charge of indoor plumping.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Ryan
1 year ago

Or putting Ja’Kovidi’us in the cockpit.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

To repeat myself, we have such an example as you decry, Ostei, in the last few years with the Boeing 737 fiasco. The plane’s computer control allowed low skilled, poorly trained pilots to literally touch icons on a computer screen for automated take off and landing. Third world airlines loved this as it allowed them to use their own people to pilot such planes. National pride thing. There are videos I’ve seen of US (read White) pilots describing the same freak take off events that caused the two Mid East crashes which shut down the flight certification for the 737.… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

It will be fascinating to see if there is a way for airlines to market their lack of diversity in such a way as to send that message with very plausible deniability of the message being sent. At one point, it would have been possible to point toward a commitment to hiring military veterans as code for “we have White flying you.”

B125
B125
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

You’ll have to avoid Western airlines. Unlikely that Emirates or Air China will be jumping on the unqualified African pilot bandwagon.

The experience is already much better on foreign airlines. The hostesses on Turkish Airlines are young, smiling, perky white women. Air Canada? More like Selma and Louise, plus Shaniqu’a. And a few flamers as well.

Pozymandias
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

This is a response to Jack’s post about how to market White flight crews. I’m guessing it could be a simple “market solution” where certain (non-US) airlines expand their routes in what might seem implausible ways. Sweden-Air flight 150 from Mexico City to Luzon now boarding, gate 12… Then they just make some totally normal commercials for their airline. Totally normal 1985 style commercials — smiling, pretty white flight attendants, square-jawed ex-military White guy pilots with booming deep voices, totally normal stuff. They would probably need to be non-US companies to get around the AA hiring rules though and having… Read more »

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

Pozymandius –

One of the Scandinavian airlines made an Ad saying nothing is really Scandinavian. It disavowed the Scandinavian people and culture. Sweden Air may not look like what you think it will look like.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

I saw an article today about a British Air flight from Barbados to London and back featuring an all black crew for the first time. They were all so proud celebrating black history mummph. I doubt I could take that step across the threshold. Of course, the usual White cucks were gushing over being able to participate in such an event. Truly pitiful.

Pasaran
Pasaran
1 year ago

(just a little OT about healthcare, in the White world, the US system is the dumbest. Telling to a Finnish, a Danish, an Austrian or even a French than “there’s not enough health ressources for everyone would make them laugh.
There’s a point where left and social-democrats were absolutely right, it’s the healt system point.

Walter White can’t exist in Western Europe

(that said, Walter White did nothing wrong. I can’t say the same thing for his awful brother-in-law, his retarded ingrateful son, his bitchy sister-in-law, and above all, his “friend”, the junkie CRYBABY BASTARD SOB POS JESSE PINKMAN😬)

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Pasaran
1 year ago

Pasaran: I can’t claim any experience with the French health system and have heard nothing but good things about the Scandinavian systems, but I dealt personally with the English, the Russian, one in Asia, and the US. While the US system is in need of massive reform and repair and the price structure is totally skewed by insurance and federally subsidized care for the POX and the old, it is still far better than anything I experienced anywhere overseas. Plenty of corrupt and incompetent (generally non-White) doctors. Most of them are arrogant and inflexible. But quality care is readily available… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Pasaran
1 year ago

Comparing Denmark to the USA is like comparing Mayberry to Chicago, if Chicago was paying to defend Mayberry

Pasaran
Pasaran
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

OK guys, keep worshipping corporate healthcare

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
1 year ago

How many subscribers does National Review have now? Even in 2000 it was mostly retired accountants and Poli-Sci professors with the little home libraries that had those swivel naugahyde lounge chairs. Those people have been covered in dirt for 10 years now. I just imagine the magazine now being pushed out like those Jehovah’s Witness Watchtower pamphlets.

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  JR Wirth
1 year ago

it would be funny if NR had 0 actual subscribers; if all the “subscribers” were dummy accounts created by the people putting out that rag. with names like “Hitch Rowly” and “Manesh Pornu”

Pasaran
Pasaran
1 year ago

I’m more angry/annoyed reading NR than reading Salon.com

And it’s scientifically impossible not to be annoyed by Salon.

Mr C
Mr C
Reply to  Pasaran
1 year ago

It’s about intellectual honesty. Salon is honest about hating us. NR claims the opposite.

I can tolerate evil people who are honest, but not in my back yard (NIMBY). I don’t want NR types in anyone’s yard.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

While I am generally OK with “inequality,” we now have an inequality that is obscene and more importantly, unjustified. Most people would agree that the 40s-70s was the most prosperous time in American history. During this period, the top marginal tax rate was 90%. America blew that money mostly on retarded stuff like wars and the space program, but it didn’t have to be that way. Some of the money did go to sensible things like infrastructure. This 90% tax rate prevented movie stars, musicians and athletes accumulating obscene fortunes. It also tended to favor smaller-medium size businesses. It also… Read more »

Pasaran
Pasaran
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

*Laffer “oh no, TAXES TO HIGH. I’m DEMOTIVATED to be on the top 1%”

*Me : srsly?

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Pasaran
1 year ago

Of course as a Frog you are use to the government breaking it off in your ass at an obscenely high tax rate, n’est-ce pas? What you fail to understand is that as more & more burden is placed on your system due to France becoming an Islamic State before your very eyes, those same taxes that use to provide a nice social safety net and great services for native Frogs like yourself are going to become a gibs program for Muhammad, Abdul, Aesha, and Fathi. So just like the US, you will be funding sh-tskins to live off your… Read more »

Pasaran
Pasaran
Reply to  Apex Predator
1 year ago

Bla bla bla bla bla…

You, you’re certainly perpetuate the cliché of the fat incult monolingual American.

And please, don’t go on military history.

You have no history
You have no soldiers

Everyone had been, is or will be terrified by your materials and your logistic.
But not a single asian/european soldier would be respectful for an american soldier.

Oh, and one more thing, as said my beloved Lt Columbo :

There is no country in the entire world which can compare to France, in matters of military history.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Pasaran
1 year ago

“Never fired, only dropped once”

Pozymandias
Reply to  Apex Predator
1 year ago

I’m somewhat sympathetic to the idea that prosperity was broader and deeper when top taxes were higher as well as to Pasaran’s snarky take on the American vs. French health care and social systems. However, these kind of debates are all about 20 years too late and fundamentally irrelevant. The European style of health care and the welfare state in general was always a historical fluke made possible by American military protection and White demographics. The Euros themselves are now ethnically destroying themselves aping the worst of American immigration boosterism. As has been pointed out above, a welfare state with… Read more »

Cymry Dragon
Cymry Dragon
Reply to  Apex Predator
1 year ago

Kinda’ funny that no one even debates if the government SHOULD be able to tax income anymore, just how much they should be able to take. History tells us that if they can, they will, until the citizens tell them they can’t. Last two times we said “you can’t” it involved tea in a harbor and shooting at a South Carolina fort.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

“ This 90% tax rate prevented movie stars, musicians and athletes accumulating obscene fortunes.” No one paid the 90% rate. Not then, not now. The “loopholes” were many. One needs to look at the average income tax rate and that was not much more than it is now. Last year, the top 50% of the population of wage earners paid 98% of the income tax. The top 1% paid 42% of the income tax. https://taxfoundation.org/publications/latest-federal-income-tax-data/ But I agree there is a disparage wrt wealth distribution in this country. The problem is that income tax restructuring is not the solution, nor… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

Tars: I agree that at some point, how much is enough but . . . I do not agree with a 90% tax rate (and as Compsci notes below, there were always tax accountants and loopholes). If something is earned by one’s labor, the government has no right to confiscate ‘x’ percent to redistribute it – not locally, not nationally, and certainly not overseas. The gap between the wealthy and the middle class is now obscene, however. Because there is no innate limit on man’s greed, there must be some external controls. What those might be and how best to… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

WRT wealth—liquid assets, property, cash, house—the top 10% or so have 80%. The bottom 90% can fight over the remaining 20%. That ain’t good, but oddly enough, I’m told it’s not out of line with other countries and previous centuries.

I have no solutions.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

It’s no so much the money as it is how business and the wealhy dealt with avoiding the 90% tax. The only people who paid 90% was actors, athletes and musicians. As far as I’m concerned, we should take all of their money and they should be happy that they ain’t strung up from light-poles across the US.

We want people to avoid these taxes by investing in their community. By keeping production in America. By funding basic research.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

The bottom 50% hold a whopping 3.3% share of total net worth in this country: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/WFRBSB50215
The 50th thru 90th percentile hold 28.7%:
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/WFRBSN40188
The top 10% hold 68% of the total net worth (with the 1% holding ~32% of that.)
I don’t have any answers either. But you can see from the charts that this trajectory started more than thirty years ago.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

It’s not the 90% tax that’s the big deal, it’s what the effect the top marginal rate had on how business operates. As far as I am concerned, we could launch all that money into the sun. Having such high marginal rates disfavors enormous institutions. Now, granted, there were some very large institutions. But they also spent a lot of their income on funding basic research. There were private labs all over the US. There were the private labs run by the big corporations and there were other labs run by consortium where small businesses pooled their funding to create… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

Tars: They are welcome to cut Social Security; it was a Ponzi scheme from the beginning. And they give it to all the alien parents all the foreign-born are bringing in, in the name of ‘supplemental’ ss. Not to go all libertarian (which I’m definitely not) but government used to be funded with tariffs. Let the other guys pay. I’m fine with that. Depends on what county you’re talking about, too. AINO? I don’t want a penny of our income to support it. White ethnostate? I’m fine with some form of retirement funding, various social assistance, etc., although private is… Read more »

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

and savings accounts paid 5% in a time of 0% inflation.

Memebro
Memebro
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

America blew that money mostly on retarded stuff like wars and **the space program**

*emphasis mine*

Yikes. Agree 100% about the war stuff, but gtfo with the anti-space program nonsense.

Just, no.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Memebro
1 year ago

Yeah, I kinda like having weather satellites, communications satellites, above atmosphere astronomical observatories. In my earliest days, none of those things existed, and only geeks like Arthur C. Clarke even envisioned them as the potentially life saving, and civilisationally enhancing things that they have largely proven themselves to be.

As with all things human, the uses to which space expenditures have been put are doubtless compromised; but on the whole, I think that these monies were well spent to prime the pump for the constructive uses that have eventuated.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Memebro
1 year ago

There were good aspects to the space program, but a lot of bad aspects too. Going to the Moon was a complete waste. We didn’t even retain the knowledge gained to do it. Even to the extent it created new knowledge, it cost a fortune. Right after the first successful moon landing, Congress was turning NASA into an affirmative action jobs program. Read ‘Whitey on the Moon’ by Paul Kersey. Satellites may or may not be entirely commercial, but they aren’t entirely government either. NASA today is a jobs programs for the well educated. They literally call their bosses “Mom”… Read more »

Memebro
Memebro
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

If you spend a little time reading up on the purpose of Mercury, Gemini, and the early developments of Apollo, (hint, they really were one program divided into stages) you’ll realize that all three programs developed an immense amount of technical knowledge that make the mobile devices we communicate with possible. We wouldn’t have had a space program without the goals that Apollo set. Therefore we wouldn’t have western dominated modernity (which of course may or may not be bad in certain contexts), but we certainly would have had a Soviet led version of modernity, and I’m not sure it… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

“The Laffer curve is just complete and utter BS.” Yes and no. It all depends where you assume the tax payer is on the Laffer curve. If toward the tail end, the tax payer is avoiding taxes because they are deemed too onerous. If on the start of the curve, then you simply reduce taxes revenue for the government, rather than increase it to the hypothetical maximum. This is why it obviously worked in the Reagan era, but can be said to have failed in later tax reduction schemes/replications—we had pushed the tax payer to a different point on the… Read more »

Davidcito
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

Im pretty sure every time taxes were cut in the usa, the government saw an increase in tax revenues due to higher economic velocity, since it increased investment in business. Economic inequality isnt proof of poverty. The poor are obese and spoiled, and their free services arent even accounted for in the poverty metrics. Spend some time with inner city blacks and youll realize none of them pay rent or for healthcare. Thats about $20k a year in free gibs completely off the books in the economic inequality debate. I never expected that corporations would go woke and so many… Read more »

Stranger in a Strange Land
Stranger in a Strange Land
1 year ago

…this new egalitarian drive will not just make people poorer. It will unleash the passions of cultural differences that cannot be remedied….
Reference South Africa and Zimbabwe as confirmation.

3 Pipe Problem
3 Pipe Problem
Reply to  Stranger in a Strange Land
1 year ago

The breadbaskets of Africa have become the [guillotine] head baskets of Africa

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  Stranger in a Strange Land
1 year ago

that’s a good thing. it will flush all the “good” whites out of power, and demolish fedgov.

pavlus
pavlus
1 year ago

The only thing , that might reverse the current trends before it’s too late, is a complete economic collapse, that will wipe out middle-class people, who both finance and support this system. Fighting with a bunch of Negroes in front of the soup kitchen for bare survival will cure even the most ardent white liberal of his folly. But it must happen over the nest decade or so, before the demographic make-up makes it impossible.

Cymry Dragon
Cymry Dragon
Reply to  pavlus
1 year ago

I agree. I think back to what would have happened to “woke” if they had tried it with my ancestors, even just a single generation removed. Hell, the police were so scared of the hill people in the Georgia county where I grew up that Jimmy Carter had to send in the National Guard when he was Governor to close an AMVETS chapter that sold moonshine. The local cops, State Patrol and GBI told him to pack sand. Middle class has too much to lose now, or so they think. Only the poor “white trash” remembers what it’s like to… Read more »

GetBackUp
GetBackUp
Reply to  Cymry Dragon
1 year ago

They don’t come back from Copperhead Road
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvaEJzoaYZk

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
1 year ago

“From each race according to its abilities, to each race according to its needs.” If this is the creed of the diversity warriors, they are not implementing it. Each race is not allowed to contribute according to its abilities. Whites in particular find themselves increasingly stymied at each step by affirmative action and other measures of woke politics. It seems to me that major structures of US society — education, employment, judiciary — are now oriented against them. It also seems to me this whole ideologically incoherent charade is being orchestrated by the chosen ones primarily, with assorted opportunistic fellow… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Arshad Ali
1 year ago

Perhaps a more realistic phrasing would be, “…from each race according to its abilities, to each race according to its contributions…”.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

How about, “From each race…aw hell…screw it. Send their worthless asses back to Africa where they belong.”

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

I tend to agree. I’d recommend bringing back “banishment”. Those who commit crime or are hopelessly indigent get bounced pronto—and I don’t particularly care what race they are.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Arshad Ali
1 year ago

“From each race according to its abilities, to each race according to its needs.” A big problem for us is that most rural and red state people like my Utah have not had extended contact with Blinks. The big church teaches to love one another and be nice! Be Nice! Man oh man…the people back here are sheep wandering blithely among a growing number of wolves. I firmly believe our world is too far gone. No coming out of woke, denying reality, declining IQ and heavy mutational overload until the bottom is within view. We must separate first. Don’t at… Read more »

joeyjünger
joeyjünger
1 year ago

And you didn’t even mention the worst part, that like the ambitious rock star who gets rich and famous to fill some kind of hole in his soul, it will only get worse for the spiteful mutants if and when they get money and power. We already know this because many of them have money and power and are more miserable and enraged and busybodyish than ever before. We talk a lot about their hatred and jealousy of what white society built, but I think there is also a lot of envy for something simpler that a lot of us… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  joeyjünger
1 year ago

“It has to get bad enough that even some of us—after all our tough talk—are going to regret when we go past the event horizon.”

You are absolutely correct. It will be hell. People don’t need to be naive on that point.

GREAT comment.

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  joeyjünger
1 year ago

“We already know this, because many of them have money and power and are more miserable and enraged and busybodyish than ever before”.

No description better describes the Obama than this one.

Think about it;
President-twice? Check
Millionaires? Check
Can do no wrong? Check
Influencer behind the scenes? Check

And still, if you ever watch them, they are as miserable and angry as the day is long.

C matt
C matt
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
1 year ago

Don’t know about miserable, but definitely angry and ungrateful POSs.

B125
B125
Reply to  joeyjünger
1 year ago

I’d say, more specifically, they need you engaged and fighting back in a channel that you will *lose* at. For example, through the Con-Inc framework. Or, through some “facts and logic” debate, where you debate in good faith and they debate in bad faith. Always ceding to their morality, as well. Once you start fighting back in an un-approved method, they completely flip their shit. The only place I’ve seen truly broken white men is in Cuba. Thin, miserable, and sickly with their mulatta wife and kids. They gave up. To be fair, so did every mixed person. That’s probably… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  B125
1 year ago

B125: Big difference between the South African Boers and the South African English. There is no English-language version of Orania.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

Does anyone have any idea what accounts for this discrepancy?

Xman
Xman
1 year ago

Yep. I have long believed that the “Marxist” nations of the 20th century “jumped the shark” so to speak by imposing “communism” in agrarian societies with a history of despotic rule rather than in industrial, advanced societies. Marx was pretty clear that communism was only going to happen after capitalism created wealth that communists could then proceed to expropriate. What we are seeing in the West today is a racialized communism where race is a proxy for class struggle, where you have a brown lumpenproletariat demanding redistribution of wealth from the white bourgeoisie who created it (or, more accurately in… Read more »

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Xman
1 year ago

I don’t mean to be rude, but at this late hour in the saga of Our Race, how can you take anything from Karl Heinrich HaLevi Mordechai “Marx” at face value?

Like everything with the j00z, it’s all just one great big giant psychological warfare campaign.

You are being told what you want to be told as a means of mesmerizing & hypnotizing you into obeyance.

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Bourbon
1 year ago

obedience

comment too short

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Bourbon
1 year ago

The issue is not so much Marx as Hegel, who Marx derived his philosophy from. We on the DR openly admit that white societies are more “advanced” and “developed” than primitive nonwhite ones, economically, scientifically, etc.

What, then, is the endgame and purpose of such development? Marx merely argued that in a materialistic society, it was communism. He may have been wrong about that, but what is our response?

Is Drag Queen Story Hour the ne plus ultra of the development and advancement of Western civilization?

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Xman
1 year ago

Xman: “but what is our response?”

THAT IT’S ALL A PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE CAMPAIGN DESIGNED TO MESMERIZE & HYPNOTIZE OUR RACE INTO SUBMISSION & SLAVERY & ERADICATION & EXTINCTION.

Disruptor
Disruptor
Reply to  Xman
1 year ago

Drag Queen Story Hour is bait. They are fishing for some White to react in a way that can be used for media propaganda and regulation justification.

The weirdos do it because they are weirdos and they like sticking it to normal people. The people at the top use weirdos as a free proxy army.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Disruptor
1 year ago

As I have heard it articulated now and again, some people just want to see the world burn. These people are destroyers, but oh so useful to those who can slyly use these destroyers toward their own ends. Now those are the people who need to be sanctioned.

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
1 year ago

DEI Version 1.0 was pretty harmless, because it was like the playground cars that have fake steering wheels for children – the “Diverse” think they are driving, but it’s not a real car. The Whites are the mothers at the playground making sure diapers are changed and nobody gets hurt. Version 2.0, ongoing now, is where White guys in the background spend all day fixing the new problems the “Diverse” crowd creates, while in the meantime trying to keep the old machinery of society running. Think air-traffic control tower meets Popeye’s Fried Chicken drive-thru on Saturday night. Or Chicago. Version… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Captain Willard
1 year ago

Captain Willard: Spot on yet again. Another excellent comment.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
1 year ago

Can the National Review be any more ridiculous? From the linked article: “Manji, a gay Uganda-born educator of Egyptian and Indian descent” Put Manij on Rushmore, by God, he has earned it! Con, Inc., is a dead letter. Whatever else he is, Scott Adams has done more for our people in a few days by drawing attention to the violence against them than the National Review managed in three-quarters of a century of absurdity. As the severe costs of DIE become undeniable and as the Regime moves to outright racial genocide, the Dilbert types will not be able to be… Read more »

Mow Knowname
Mow Knowname
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 year ago

There will be no ethnic European awakening or voting block. More than half of the white race would rather die than be racist.

The closest block that actually exists is the global warming-ists, who are voting to tear down the electrical grid.

Carl B.
Carl B.
Reply to  Mow Knowname
1 year ago

Agree. Between Wealthy White liberals, Evangelicals, and Sportsball Normies, there will be no “awakening” for Whites. Only eventual extinction.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Carl B.
1 year ago

The DR has easily doubled in the last 5-7 years. Perhaps more, it’s hard to say for sure. It wasn’t that large before. The ramping up anti white pogrom won’t do anything to reverse that trend.

They can’t stop whites from concluding the same thing I did: There’s no upside in being a “good white”

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Elon Musk just tweeted in favor of Scott Adams.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1629764614870167552

This is starting to feel eerily Q-ish…

C matt
C matt
Reply to  Carl B.
1 year ago

My beautiful White colleague is as woke as they come. I do not foresee her waking from her woken stupor. However, that does not mean a significant number of other WWs will not awaken. As much as I would like all Whites to awaken, we only need a sufficient number to do so. That is not impossible.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Mow Knowname
1 year ago

We do disagree on this point. It is starting to take form now. I am not referring to electoral politics, to be clear, as much as overall societal change. I don’t even think I appreciate how bad it is about to come, but that is the necessary component. All of the White groups you correctly identified will be among those hardest hit. We may even be surprised with how quickly they come around although I agree it likely will be kicking and screaming.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 year ago

With all due respect to our esteemed host, Scott Adams is not only the story of the day, but the most important story of the year to this point. He said precisely what the DR has been saying for the past decade, and has thus far refused to recant and grovel. What’s more Musk has risen to his defense. Despite the Power Structure’s strenuous attempts to quarantine the truth about Hutus and their malevolence, the truth is now out in the open. A man with a megaphone subverted the anti-white/Hutuphilic narrative, and now I suspect a great many Grillers will… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

The Adams story is an inflection point, I think. A primary difference with Kanye West, and the most important one, is Musk taking up the cause. The nightmare scenario for the Junta is that the “is it OK to be White?” question may be posed to those who matter. Asking that question more than the answer itself is devastating to the cause of silent genocide. The Regime may have learned from West that fading to black (heh) works best, but that requires almost universal cooperation. As you note, these types are so impulsive it undermines them, so wealth appropriation probably… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

Ostei: The issue with Adams, as I noted elsewhere, is not even just what may happen to him personally. The left will come after everyone he’s ever known, and every family member he has. Got in a fight in 3rd grade? They’ll track him down to get a quote that Adams’ has always had anger issues. Didn’t date blaq women in college? Rayciss. I recall reading somewhere that the defunct blogger In Mala Fide quit because after he was doxed, they came after his young nieces and nephews. Sure, Adams has plenty of money. But banks make errors, accounts get… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

The rampant childlessness and atomization have made people far less fragile, so that’s one good result of a societal tragedy. The more anti-fragile the more dissident someone can be. It may be better than FU money. As best as I can tell, Adams is childless, twice divorced and has FU money. This may explain why he hasn’t caved. And, yes, the Soviet-style State probably will seize his assets.

As an aside, the bigoted hate group ADL has denounced “it’s OK to be White” as “hate speech.” The ADL doesn’t think it is OK to be White.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 year ago

The ADL is the hate group of all hate groups, and the group they hate most is the white race.

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

interesting the Elon is originally from South Africa, isn’t it 😛

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  karl von hungus
1 year ago

Yeah, he knows a few things about the nuggras they don’t teach you at Yale, just alike all those white southern octagenarians.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 year ago

Jack: It used to be a tossup trying to decide who I disliked as neighbors more – the Orientals or the subcons. I still dislike both, but the subcons have won out in the “I cannot stand them” category. And someone in silicon valley is paying big bucks to have the Daily Mail feature prominent articles on Vivek Ramaswamy daily, along with dozens of bot-generated comments touting him as a great conservative murrican. Never heard of the guy until perhaps a week ago and then he’s in my face every day when I peruse their headlines. I guess the Silicon… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

I haven’t kept up with this dude, either, but is he globbing onto the “(I)t’s OK to be White” meme? As someone pointed out, the Subcons are dimmer than our original enemies but far, far more numerous. Those I’ve encountered are totally obsequious, and that’s apparently more than my anecdote.

Dr. Dre
Dr. Dre
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

We had a “Subcon” as you call them run for the US Senate here in TN a couple of years’ ago. Fortunately he lost in the primary. A young guy, a DOCTOR! (so were his immigrant parents!) Ivy League education, nice-looking wife. Went to a rally in our town. He spoke warmly of his growing up in a small-ish place a couple of counties away. Got a cheer from some guys in the audience he said he went to “high school” with, to give him some yokel creds. I did a little investigation and learned his “high school” was a… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Dr. Dre
1 year ago

Dr. Dre: It’s definitely an observable pattern. JD Vance, parlaying his ‘hillbilly’ cred by currying favor with the elite crowd while marrying a subcon. A number of DR websites were pushing an Arkansas candidate in 2022 (cannot recall his name) whose mother was a local but father was an immigrant subcon. All in the supposed cause of conservatard/White rights. It sickens me.

Whites have got to learn to take their own side.
No substitutions, no half measures.

Cymry Dragon
Cymry Dragon
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 year ago

I know that Scott Adams has received quite a bit of “grifter” accusations on this comment board, but he has put his $$$ where his convictions dwell. He had to have known that he would be subject to the Torquemada of the SJW sect, but he told the truth anyway. Admittedly he may have enough FU money to not care about a few newspapers, but still, it was a ballsy move.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Cymry Dragon
1 year ago

Grifter or not, Adams actually is quite incisive about persuasion. He has made “it’s OK to be White” into a national conversation. That’s a win. The slogan actually predates “Black Lives Matter” and similarly was designed to force denials of its assertion.

Making the assertion or asking if it is OK to be White is the win, not the answer.

imbroglio
imbroglio
1 year ago

“As insane as it is, the diversity warriors are not irrational.” Amen. I live in the heart of social justice country. My friends, acquaintances and colleagues believe, though they don’t always seem conscious of it or articulate it, that for so very long whites, more so male whites, more so straight male whites, and now more so straight, Christian, male whites have had an unfair advantage in the distribution of material wealth and social benefits never mind who may have created the bulk of that wealth and those benefits. Now it’s time to correct this maldistribution via “equitizing” (reversing) it.… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  imbroglio
1 year ago

The SWJ’s are religious fanatics. They believe because it makes them holy.

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  imbroglio
1 year ago

They believe that today because there is no cost to them to believe it. In fact, there are gains – social status; feeling of moral superiority. As soon as there is a high cost to them they will no longer believe. Of course that depends on the cost as well. If the cost is that their male child hates them, it won’t bother them in the least. One of the challenges our side is going to have is in channeling the anger of our young people toward our foes rather than revenge against their parents who left them for dead.… Read more »

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  RealityRules
1 year ago

RealityRules: “I am not big into Christianity, but forgiveness of our parents is important and particularly so for younger people.”

Matthew 10:34 – 10:36
https://www.bartleby.com/108/40/10.html#S51

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  imbroglio
1 year ago

Cancer thinks it’s doing the right thing, too.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 year ago

Cancer doesn’t think however, neither do Leftists.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

Lol speaking metaphorically, but point taken!

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  imbroglio
1 year ago

imbroglio: Your neighbor is disgusting and perverse and a dangerous true believer. I hope his son hates him (and his privileged sister) and finds his way to our side.

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

that boy should bide his time, and give that bastard father a solid punch in the face.

btp
Member
1 year ago

The diversity people are entirely correct, though. The rules we have, especially the ones that insist they are merit-based or equality-of-opportunity, are exactly the ones most suited for White people.

A merit-based system will necessarily lead to exactly the differences in achievement we observe between blacks and Whites, and blacks are entirely correct to refuse the conservative argument that a merit-based system is fair. A game where you never ever win is not one you want to play because it isn’t fair.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  btp
1 year ago

Which is why separation is the only possible alternative. I have long tried to explain to conservatives that nobody on the left, especially blacks, is interested in a merit-based society, because they no, even if they won’t say, that the vast majority of blacks have lower merit. The sort of White or Hispanic or Asian who gravitates to the left is also either the low merit type, or simply Machiavellian — they know how the game is played against Whites (esp. straight males) and they have no moral compunction against taking advantage out of it. They don’t share conservative Whites’… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Vizzini
1 year ago

Bad or good, and it is quite good in my opinion, the partition is taking place even now and accelerating. That train has left the station.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Vizzini
1 year ago

Such a “partition” will produce “homelands” which will attract those living outside of such. In a few generations, there will be less and less racial mixture throughout these areas as people sort themselves out accordingly. Trick is to not forget why these places were created in the first place and lose them through alien migration as we have the entire USA in three short generations.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  btp
1 year ago

Whites still think that’s the game we’re playing, they’re getting crushed, and they think it’s legitimate. That’s the real insanity.

Horace
Horace
Reply to  btp
1 year ago

Blacks do win, though, just not as much as the more capable. The modern Americanized African is the fattest most spoiled-rotten African that has ever been or ever will be again after when this vile empire of lies, usury, and sodomy twitches its last death throe.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  btp
1 year ago

Oh, but it is fair. What is unfair is taking from the competent, the intelligent, the lawful and the productive, and giving to the incompetent, the stupid, the criminal and the indolent. Nuggras don’t want fairness; they want what rightfully belongs to us.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
1 year ago

In our circles there’s a lot of talk about the problems resulting from Abraham Lincoln not sending the slaves back to Africa as he wrote in 1857.

A bigger issue, I think, is Hart-Celler in 1965. A close to 90 percent White America with 10 percent blacks, and a small amount of other races was a problem, but it was manageable.

And then the gas was thrown into the fire.

What was unleashed after 1965, opening the door wide open to all the people of the world is a disaster, making no chance for a harmonious society.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 year ago

It’s underappreciated that the so called Greatest Generation was primarily responsible for this. The Boomers hadn’t even started college yet.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

I just wish they’d finally wake up, but I get that money talks. It’s the conservative case for conservatism, when you get down to it.

Cymry Dragon
Cymry Dragon
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Thanks. Appreciate that something was found for which my generation didn’t get the blame 🙂

btp
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Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 year ago

No, it was the post-War failure to remove that group from society. As the catastrophe engineers say, nature always provides a spark. The usual suspects will always be looking for chances to create mischief and the solution is to remove as many oil-soaked rags from the garage as possible, rather than try to keep every possible spark from happening.

I mean, Brown vs. Board of Education pre-dates the immigration act, right?

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  btp
1 year ago

“Remove that group from society.” At first I thought you meant blacks. I get it. Good point.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 year ago

The way I read it, nuggras = oil-soaked rags, Finkels = sparks.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 year ago

And there’s no way it can be fixed without blowing up the current social order…Affirmative action is already making everything in the US less and less functional, and eventually completely non-functional like South Africa…

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 year ago

Simultaneous with Hart-Cellar was the rise of ideological multiculti, which stated that no culture was superior to any other. All were equal. Clearly, this bit of sophistry was intended to dethrone white culture and elevate negro savagery. Acceptance was a 44 mag round in the guts of America.

usNthem
usNthem
1 year ago

The woman in the article is a perfect metaphor for much that is wrong on our society – a queer female of color grifter with a weird unamerican name. Checks all the boxes for sure. Of course, floyd wasn’t murdered and there is no “legacy of slavery” – that’s just more bs to browbeat the declining White population into submission, which have no doubt, is the ultimate goal. And if you can make a solid six figure income cashing in on the chaos, what the heck, right? It’s the new “American” way.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

I never hear anybody saying ‘diversity is our strength’ anymore. I used to hear it all the time in the 90s (when the GR was just getting ramped up). It could be that I’m not exposed to the media where it’s being said, but I wasn’t all that plugged into the media back then either. The thing about the MSM, it’s so ubiquitous that its message tends to get to you whether you are a consumer of it or not. But I digress. So maybe they felt that message had been accepted, and they didn’t need to push it anymore.… Read more »

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

“ I never hear anybody saying ‘diversity is our strength’ anymore. I used to hear it all the time in the 90s (when the GR was just getting ramped up). It could be that I’m not exposed to the media where it’s being said” Oh it’s still there. I also don’t believe that all that many people are waking up. Not to mention, you have an entire generation of young people coming up who have never been taught any other way. White kids hate themselves, and their parents would rather kill their own children with mutilation or clot shots than… Read more »

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  Tired Citizen
1 year ago

You got it, Tired! Saying the words has been replaced by walking the walk.

C matt
C matt
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

To young people diversity means you can get a taco and falafel within a two block radius.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

“As insane as it is, the diversity warriors are not irrational. From their starting premise, theirs is the only rational answer for why we have inequality in our societies.” I’ve long argued that diversity warriors are simply following the logic of their initial assumptions, and that the logical endgame is the subjugation of whites. If all groups are equal, but you have unequal outcomes, it’s because of systemic racism which is created by white people. White people, whether they know it or not, are racist and their racism spreads throughout the system. Unless whites can be taught to stop being… Read more »

Vizzini
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Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

So, the entire NR article is basically a lavish tongue bath for a stateless piece of mystery meat named Irshad Manji But should talk of diversity and inclusion be completely off the table in conservative circles? Is DEI so tainted and un-American that it should be purged from the national conversation? Or is there a way to promote diversity and inclusion in American institutions — and to have difficult conversations about things like the still visible legacy of slavery and discrimination in America, ongoing racism, and persistent divides over sex and gender — in a way that improves relationships without… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Vizzini
1 year ago

Agree, but the NR wants that fate for everyone.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

Agree. Also, apologies, that was supposed to be a standalone comment, not a reply!

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Vizzini
1 year ago

It did seem a tad random.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  Vizzini
1 year ago

DIE is a wholly appropriate acronym for this movement…Society can’t long survive the promotion of imbeciles to important positions..The Marching Morons was great fiction, but that society would have become rapidly extinct…..

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  pyrrhus
1 year ago

Because of its appropriateness, they insist on spelling it DEI. Spelling it DIE is a potent little rhetorical ploy not unlike “It’s okay to be white.”

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

What makes it worse is you constantly here “systemic”, or even “systematic” racism thrown around all the time. There’s never a clear definition of it. It is always changing. That’s because it doesn’t actually exist. There are no laws preventing blacks from doing things, in fact there is exactly the opposite. The reality that is considered heresy is that blacks as a group are unable to perform in a civilized, western society. They do not belong in one and are better suited for the savagery required in the jungles of Africa where they belong. No matter how many advantages or… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Tired Citizen
1 year ago

One need go no further than an investigation of the 5 fired policemen in The Memphis fiasco. Basically, they’d have never gotten a job in any police department outside of a major minority metro area desperate for minority hires. They were low level criminals themselves.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Tired Citizen
1 year ago

Tired Citizen: 10 years? You are an optimist, friend. I essentially stopped flying 20 years ago when the TSA began (one exception only) and have no plans to ever fly again. Surgery? Depends. If it really will cure whatever supposedly ails me and won’t leave me unable to wipe my own bottom – and if the doctor, nurses, and anesthetist are all White. Otherwise, I’d prefer to check out.

RealityRules
RealityRules
1 year ago

I watched that 15 minute video with the young Asian guy acknowledging not just anti-institutionalized white hatred and policy but understanding where it will lead in the future. It was cringe worthy that even his premise is that them having compassion for us will make them better than us. For he accepts the narrative that our forefathers were evil and mean to them. That isn’t true. They came here to flee true oppression and/or to find freedom and economic opportunity. Many rose up and are doing better than us. I appreciate his acknowledgement. However, his premise that his ancestors were… Read more »

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  RealityRules
1 year ago

Well, we’ve already seen the conservative case for winning a nuclear war in the WSJ, so everything is on the table in this looney bin we call America….

JEB
JEB
1 year ago

Even if you dispense with egalitarianism and let nature take its course, so that the more talented rise to the top and lay claim to a greater share of benefits, you’ve still got a problem if society is structured is such a way that the more successful you are the more inconvenient you find it to have children. A different problem to be sure, but still a problem. Note that this will be a problem even in societies totally lacking in ethnic diversity, but that, as with everything, diversity makes it worse.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  JEB
1 year ago

“the more successful you are the more inconvenient you find it to have children”

True, so let’s take a page from the Left and re-define success as having children. It’s not even a redefinition.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  JEB
1 year ago

We have not as a society created the right incentives for bring children into the world—especially when you have successful White families with the mother working a full-time job to make ends meet. Of course, the second problem immediately rears—that of minorities taken increased advantage of such programs.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  JEB
1 year ago

A number of states, most recently Hungary, have used the state to incentivize having children. How ’bout for every child that you have and raise till the age of 10, while staying with the husband, is another year of free college at any institution whose standards you can meet? Or, you family, provided that it remains intact, never pays taxes again. Of course, the real solution is to control the media. Someone almost always does. Further, most people, even intelligent people, do not have the ability or time to think independently. So, most people have their values dictated to them… Read more »

JEB
JEB
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

It’s easy to be an armchair general and tell countries what they should do, but a lot of advanced countries are now making serious efforts to increase their birthrates, and so far nobody is having much success. It seems to be a hard problem that would require serious restructuring of society to fix. Frankly, I don’t have much wisdom to offer here. However I do think that one of the really sad things to come out of WWII was the “discrediting” of eugenics. Yes, you can do bad things in the name of eugenics, but if it were widely accepted… Read more »

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  JEB
1 year ago

This is why Steve Sailer, regardless of his shortcomings, is to be commended for pointing to the population boom in subsaharan Africa as the most critical statistic in the world.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

You are onto something here. The incentives you mention are perhaps of the type that will not enthuse minorities as much as Whites. There are others of the negative sort as well. Even ignoring race, there are perhaps certain incentives that just make sense like no children, no social security.

Eloi
Eloi
1 year ago

In reference to the point on diversity warriors utilizing Marx, If you want to understand any “ism,” all you need to do is have a basic understanding of Marx and apply the protected class for the economic group. CRT and post-colonial simply substitute a race or ethnic group for the proles. Sexism – put in women. Age – put in old people. Trans – put in trans. With that rough substitution, you will have a pretty solid grasp of the belief system, such as it may be.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
1 year ago

The thing I don’t get is what self government has to do with egalitarianism.

btp
Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 year ago

Isn’t that easy, though? By what right do you claim self-rule is legitimate?

Isn’t the answer based on some natural right or some concept that each man is legitimately entitled to have a say in government? Well, there you go.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  btp
1 year ago

It’s based on American political culture, which grew up far away from the Crown and the Church. People had to govern themselves.

btp
Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 year ago

There were nonstop governors appointed by the Crown in Virginia from 1624. Colonial governors in Maryland from 1692, and prior to that it was governors appointed by the Catholic Calvert family who owned the colony.

Etc. & etc.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  btp
1 year ago

How did that work out?

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  btp
1 year ago

And for that matter, how is reverse-engineering the American ‘libertarian’ streak onto the Old World working out? We aren’t a stable empire, and the rest of the world needs a stronger central authority imo.