A Ukraine Narrative Update

The war in Ukraine had dropped off the front page starting late last year with the Russians slowly grinding down the Ukrainians. Now that summer is not far away, it looks like things will start heating up. The recent drone attacks on the Kremlin have brought the war back to the front pages. The long promised Ukrainian offensive is due any week now and the Russians seem to be preparing something as well.

The drone attack on the Kremlin is another one of those times where you get a glimpse into the psyche of the people running the war for the regime. They greenlight a caper and then claim that the victim of the caper did it to himself. We saw this with the Nord Stream pipeline attack. At first, they cheered, then they made up a story about how the Russians blew up their own pipelines to make Washington look bad.

In this case, the story is the Russians attacked their own buildings so they can have an excuse to kill Zelensky. Poor Zelensky is traveling around Europe right now thinking he is about to get a polonium cocktail from room service. In his last public appearance, he looked like he was about to cry. There is now talk that he may not return to Ukraine at all and just do his job by zoom.

The thing is this caper is a good example of how easily things can get out of hand when you let private actors conduct foreign policy. The attack was no doubt cooked up by the neocons running foreign policy. They have friends at private military and security firms that help the Ukrainians with planning and materials. Maybe British intelligence helps out, off the books naturally.

Unlike the Nord Stream bombing, which was signed off on by Joe Biden, it appears this stunt was done without the admin being told. This is why they sounded even more ridiculous than usual when asked about it. They did not have their cover stories prepared, so they were forced to wing it. That only made things worse, as their instinct is always to lie, which made them look even guiltier.

What this all points to is that the Kagan cult thinks they have one last shot to start a nuclear war with Russia, so they will be pulling out all the stops. That means Ukraine is about to get interesting this summer. Not only will we get the long promised Ukrainian offensive, but we will get lots of random terrorist attacks, along with some efforts to make the big dramatic splash like we saw this week.


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Whiskey
Whiskey
1 year ago

Turkey’s election is near, I think May 14, and Erdogan is slated to lose given polling. There is an alliance of the opposition parties cemented by the CIA and the opposition candidate promises to undue all actions by Erdogan. Even if he he wins, expect another coup attempt like the one in 2016 that Putin warned him of (which explains much). That coup was hatched out of Incirlik Air Base and there remains even after purges many loyal to the US inside Turkey’s military. There are also disturbing speeches given by both Yellen and Blinken on China/National Security. Yellen essentially… Read more »

OTOH/IMHO
OTOH/IMHO
Reply to  Whiskey
1 year ago

A very astute analysis, except that getting U.S. troops involved in war with either Russia or China would be disastrous: requiring a new draft with potentially millions of men refusing to go(because women are not drafted, among other reasons) and, with the nation already $32 trillion+ in debt, an explosion of inflation. Americans had better wake up and root out the miserable warmongers in their midst, but this will take that rarest of resources: moral courage.

Pozymandias
1 year ago

Z’s sense that there’s something “stirring” in the Ukraine is confirmed by the fact that the YouTube robots have begun another campaign to save my soul from the dark hand of Putler. Specifically, I’ve noted that just prior to new developments occurring there I start to see these mysterious new channels in my feed. They tend to be sort of ra-ra-ra jingo-tech stuff meaning that there’s an emphasis on guns and other military technology but with a clear “this is how we’re gonna beat Putler, you just watch” message. I’m sure the robots chose this emphasis because of my watching… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Pozymandias
1 year ago

I too just had a “Ukrainians repulse Wagner attack” video show up in my youtube feed. And I don’t watch Ukraine videos. Or political videos in general. But there it was. I had never noticed a video like that in my feed before.

Pozymandias
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

These videos always stand out from my feed for that reason too. That’s why I’m sure this stuff is a deliberate propaganda effort. Also, while I can’t prove it because I didn’t used to pay close attention to the dates these things show up, but it actually DOES seem that the propaganda videos *foreshadow* developments in Ukraine. This tells me that YT (and by extension probably all the social media companies) are tightly integrated into the regime to the point where the DOD tells them AND Zelensky’s minions what to do and say at about the same time. Free marketplace… Read more »

krustykurmudgeon
krustykurmudgeon
1 year ago

do you like this metaphor for america as basically a dormant cancer where it was always there and people were able to live there lives. But at some point, the symptoms started showing up and people are wondering what the hell happened. Like if you want to go back to the days of americana nostalgia that you see at a cracker barrel. I’m sure there was a rot in the country at the time. But the difference is it was easier to escape/avoid or even pretend didn’t exist. We could all have polite fictions.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  krustykurmudgeon
1 year ago

Sure, there were dormant problems, like founding our country on values and not race, and allowing black slaves. On the other hand, it’s typically not useful to criticize something based on the standard of perfection. In that spirit, was there ever an existing place and time that was better for a people than the United States before the 1863 was for whites?

c matt
c matt
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

Medieval or rennaisance Europe seemed pretty good.

Semi-Hemi
Semi-Hemi
1 year ago

Mr. Z, if you are still interested in rural property in West Virginia then you might enjoy watching Outdoors with the Morgans on YouTube today. They just posted a video showing the delivery and setup of their folding mini-cabin on their recently purchased land there.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
1 year ago

They finally arrested Gonzalo again:

https://www.theautomaticearth.com/2023/05/us-vs-gonzalo-lira/

I’m surprised they let him go on this long. Dude was playing with fire. Also, not so cool to leave your wife and kids hanging like this.

In a figurative sense, Scott Ritter was correct when he mistakenly reported Lira’s deceased the first time the SBU arrested him.

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 year ago

Considering he started out as a pickup artist grifter I can’t imagine his wife and kids are high priorities for him.

Auld Mark
Auld Mark
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 year ago

I think Ritter was even more correct when he called him Gonzo.

Bcorig
Bcorig
Member
1 year ago

Gotta tell you Z-man, I was listening to Glenn Greenwald and Michael Tracy on Rumble last. Michael Tracy was treating the Kagan Cult, the Institute for the Study of War as some great revelation or a scoop.
I thought to myself, “self, I’ve known about this from before the invasion. Why? Because I listen and subscribe to this and SubscribeStar.”
NONE of any of my acquaintances have any idea what I’m talking about when I say “Kagan Cult”.
Thanks.

Hun
Hun
1 year ago

Anybody here seen the Prigozhin video? Is he screaming for no reason? How about Strelkov? Is he just being overly dramatic?

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  Hun
1 year ago

Russia is trying to do the consequence-free war bullshit like we did with Bush’s War of Terror or Lyndon Johnson’s Guns and Butter. So they’re making the mercs do all the heavy fighting while the Russian regulars stay back to prevent casualties among the conscripts that would potentially piss off the public and create war weariness. No one cares if mercenaries die, since they’re more well understood by the public as murderers for hire (people who join the regular military on the other hand are there to save democracy and puppies from the bad guys). The tendency on the DR… Read more »

NoOneAtAll
NoOneAtAll
Reply to  Ploppy
1 year ago

The counsel of despair and surrender. No fighting man is up to the standards of the elite keyboard warrior and no nation is ever worthy of his morally unimpeachable anonymous costless verbal support.

He can only summon the decisiveness necessary to post about how all putative allies must join him in surrender and impotence

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  NoOneAtAll
1 year ago

Any keyboard warrior ad hominem here is the pot calling the kettle black.

Polack
Polack
Reply to  NoOneAtAll
1 year ago

Ploppy is right though.

Both, Russian Armed Forces and WG are composed more of toothless Timmys than well trained and equipped, motivated soldiers.

The counsel of despair and surrender? Funny that you mention that while expecting some shady dictator from the other end of the world, to help you clean up rot and decay in your own society…

Surrender and impotence you say?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Polack
1 year ago

We expect nothing of the sort. We simply hope Russia inflicts a stinging defeat on the malevolent GAE, and in so doing, precipitates its sojourn to history’s cesspit. After that happens, we can then go about building a new white nation where mere normalcy reigns supreme.

Polack
Polack
Reply to  Polack
1 year ago

@Ostei

I wish you good luck in this endeavor, unironically.

How that can be done with crumbling economy, weak, confused and conflicted society devoid of any common sense remains to be seen.

At the same time there will be forced shift to AI driven command economy, to which masses of people phased out of work by technology will be surrendering in hope of retaining bits of wealth and status they got so used to in the past.

People hoping for a spontaneous return of sanity are up for some WTF.

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  Polack
1 year ago

It’s certainly better for us if Russia wins as it undermines the legitimacy of GAE. But the truth is still that we’ve quite a bit of Russia stepping on its own dick over the past year. The infighting between Wagner and the MOD is the perfect example of this: they view each other as rivals and are more focused on undermining the other than on winning the war. So the MOD withholds ammo, then Wagner threatens to quit the field. It reminds me of a video explaining why the Soviet Union’s computer research never went anywhere. Each group working on… Read more »

OTOH/IMHO
OTOH/IMHO
Reply to  Ploppy
1 year ago

So true! Putin was very happy playing the Godless Communist when it suited his ambition, and now he walks around clutching the cross as if he were some kind of Christian(are there any out there?) Christ at least tossed the money- changers out of the temple- who is going to throw the MIC SOB’s out on their ear? When the Kerrigan Brothers chained themselves to the White House fence, and the Vietnam Veterans Against War hurled their medals over it, it was front page news- any and all protest is now muzzled in the MSM. A nation of Lapel-Pin Patriots.

Xman
Xman
1 year ago

Xi and Putin must be wetting themselves with fear. Sage the therapy dog is coming:

https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2023/05/03/a-very-good-girl-deploys-on-carrier-ford-sage-the-therapy-dog/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fb_nt&_PxNeoZBr0r07lrTrak1FNUK4YMix4r3qadt6ls1bLPkK3UTA

“Cmdr. Genevieve Clark, the chaplain for the Gerald R. Ford Carrier Strike Group, will serve as Sage’s primary handler…”

Well, there ya go… bull dyke lesbian with a Carrier Strike Group Therapy Dog… the Iranians had better watch out, too

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Xman
1 year ago

Bloody hell. Can this possibly be the same country that licked the Krauts, Dagos and the Nips in WWII? The question is, of course, rhetorical.

Ron west
Ron west
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

It was mostly the Russians that whipped the Germans in ww2.

Mike
Mike
Reply to  Xman
1 year ago

Is there any lower we can get in clown world? Of course there is but that is terrible. That creature as a chaplain? May God help us all. Go Russia, go China.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Xman
1 year ago

Xman-

Fear not, Army Special Operations now has a female senior enlisted leader:

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/army-special-operations-command-female-senior-enlisted-leader-joann-naumann/

I’m sure this voice language analyst has extensive experience behind enemy lines with multiple confirmed kills in hand-to-hand combat!

mmack
mmack
Reply to  Xman
1 year ago

Gee, I can’t understand why the US Navy can’t meet its recruiting targets Xman.

It is a mystery. 🤦‍♂️

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
1 year ago

It makes perfect sense to nuke the Whites. Why?

Because, when the Whites are gone, the only whites left will be /fellow whites/.

Alexander, Cesear, DaVinci, Micaelangelo, George Washington;

by the third generation, none will ever know- all of our history will be /theirs/, for the rest of time.

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

By the third generation they’d be back to banging rocks together and piercing their dicks with chicken bones to try and appease the rain gods.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
1 year ago

I got in bunch of arguments early on in the sanctions regime. People did not seem to comprehend that a country that is largely self sufficient in 1)energy 2)food and 3) critical natural resources (including gold) is largely proof against a sanctions regime. If that same country supplies most of its now-belligerent neighbors with these critical needs, you’ve created a bigger problem. We had to do a “Russian hunt” at work to suss out any “bad people”, it was silly. Seizing assets out of the financial system is already creating problems. Wait until you are not the dominant reserve currency… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 year ago

Russia hunt at work? Tell us more

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Financial services.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 year ago

OFAC crap. No cloak and dagger stuff. But one legal guy got a little pissed when I asked “how fast do you want these Russians purged?”

mmack
mmack
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 year ago

Man I remember doing OFAC work at MegaBank back in the 20teens.

Nice to see Russia is on a par with places like North Korea, Syria, and Sudan.

Severian
1 year ago

Wonder if that big Russian troop buildup over the winter — for a “spring offensive” that never materialized — might be launching a spoiling attack on the big Uke summer offensive here soon. Wouldn’t that be a hoot?

Probably not, because I gather the Ukrainians aren’t really built for offense — they’re more built for “sitting in bunkers like chumps getting shelled,” because that’s what their idiot AINO trainers / financiers insisted upon — so a spoiling attack would actually be playing to their one sorta-strength… but still. It would be hilarious.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Severian
1 year ago

My impression is so long as you can keep the Ukes sending soldiers into a salient (Bakhmut) to get butchered and methodically shell anything that moves why go on the offensive.

The Greek
The Greek
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 year ago

My personal theory is that the Russians will eventually seek piece once they’ve taken everything east of the Dnieper River. River crossings for assaults can be a bitch, and they’ve said they don’t want to occupy all of Ukraine. I just wonder if Zelensky or his puppeteers would agree to terms

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Severian
1 year ago

I’ve always figured Russia has to keep a large force near Ukraine but not on the front line so as to deter a NATO counterattack

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Also draftees are not permitted by Russian law to fight outside the borders. Professional army and Wagnerians only. Now if NATO attacked, I’m sure that provision would be waived. But its the law right now.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 year ago

I believe that draftees can be used outside Russia in a declared war in defence of Russia. Not so in the case of aid to allies in Syria for example. Putin’s SMO may be a way to keep some of the more rabid warmongers in Moscow on side.

Eloi
Eloi
1 year ago

OT but relevant to the zeitgeist, I was reading Moonofalabama for the first time in a few weeks. Last week, he had an article where Kimdotcom explicitly stated that Seth Rich contacted him.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Eloi
1 year ago

The Seth Rich cope presumes the existence of a Democratic campaign worker who’s not only above partisanship but willing to risk death by ratting out his bosses for principle and patriotism.

I’m slightly surprised Kim would lie about it. We have no idea who did the leak. All the information we have about it is garbage. Rich’s connection to it is *made up*.

When the kind of homo who poses for photographs in an ironic American flag suit gets jogged, LAUGH.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Hemid
1 year ago

Who said he was above partisanship? He was a Bernie bro who was disturbed that the primary was being rigged for Hillary. And I’m willing to bet he had no conception of the consequences.

miforest
Member
Reply to  Hemid
1 year ago

He was a bummed bernie bro exposing herself as revenge. the datestamps on those files show they were downloaded at the computer, not sent to an outside device . so there’s that too.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Eloi
1 year ago

While I 100% believe Seth was killed by Sate forces, kimdotcom is the definition of a bad actor.

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 year ago

You know I have always wavered on this one. I can certainly see the angle of him as a plant. But sometimes I wonder. Is he not roughly analogous to Snowden? Obviously, Snowden is compromised to some extent. But, only to some extent.

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 year ago

fatboy dotcom makes up shit all the time. he claimed at one point to have copies of epstein’s tapes and was going to release them. which of course he did not.

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  karl von hungus
1 year ago

Megupload and kim jave done more to gain the ire of many governments than you. I love how people disparage soneone who has the guts to do things they call for on this forum. Again, I know his ego is as big as his gut. But, again, megauplpad was a massive early strike against gub control over net.

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  Eloi
1 year ago

what does anything you said have to do with the fact dotcom lies, often, for self aggrandizement?

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  Eloi
1 year ago

Your point was that he lies in an ad hominem. The attempt was to discredit anything he says. My point is that he does have a big mouth and lies, but this should be weighed against his actions that have been impactful and illustrate that he is not just hot air – he is not simply and exclusively a liar.

Eloi
Eloi
1 year ago

The wickedness of these people was clear with the sanctions on Iraq. Probably a million people died because US sanctions specifically blocked water filtration components – probably half of the body count children. Declassified documents back around 2000 confirmed this wicked intent. I am no great empathizer, but imagine how you would view a country that deliberately starved your kids to death. To think about watching my youngest shrivel up and die makes me hate these people for their evil, evil gaze.

george 1
george 1
Reply to  Eloi
1 year ago

But Madeleine Albright said it was all worth it.

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  george 1
1 year ago

george 1 on May 5, 2023: “But Madeleine Albright said it was all worth it.” FROM THE ARCHIVES: Albright’s Family Tragedy Comes to Light By Michael Dobbs Washington Post Staff Writer Tuesday, February 4, 1997; Page A01 “In an interview last week, Albright, who was raised a Roman Catholic and now is an Episcopalian, said her father and mother never talked to her or her two siblings about the relatives’ fate or their Jewish background. She said she found the new information “fairly compelling” but wanted to conduct her own research into her family and its fate.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/govt/admin/stories/albright020497.htm ========== February… Read more »

george 1
george 1
Reply to  Bourbon
1 year ago

To her and her ilk I am sure it was worth it.

My Comment
My Comment
Reply to  Eloi
1 year ago

The US killing hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children and feeling it was worth it because they didn’t like Saddam marks the American Empire as one of or maybe the most bloodthirsty Empire in history. This alone puts a lie to American officials and media prattling on about values. What gets discussed less by the right is it shows that the white American people are not worth saving. Americans didn’t care because they weren’t told to care. Even if they see that clip of Albright few Americans care. I respect much of traditional white culture as much as the next… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  My Comment
1 year ago

Maybe they didn’t care because it was arab children dying. If it were white children their opinion of it may have been very different.

In that same vein, you don’t see them give a tinker’s damn about slaughter in Africa or Asia, but when there’s a war in Yugoslavia or Ukraine…. of course in the latter they were told to care early and often, and when they are told to care they usually do

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

When pressed you’ll have less sympathy for your enemies in all their faculties. Just the way it goes.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Forever Templar
1 year ago

I’m seeing it more as a racial preference thing even by people who claim not to have one. Same phenomenon manifests in whites getting up in arms over white kids getting shot at school, but not caring at all about black kids getting shot in black neighborhoods.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

In theory, white people are supposed to have gotten beyond war while there are no such expectations of PoC. A bit ironic that, given that the GAE, still controlled mainly by WINOs if not true whites, is a rampaging slaughterer of epic proportions.

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  My Comment
1 year ago

I completely agree. White Americans are sickly – hell, they mutilate their own children. Look, I am all for hating your enemy, absolutely. But, to me, the average american’s indifference means it cannot be called a desire for blood of your enemies. Firther, iraq was no enemy. They were an ally we betrayed. Enjoying the suffering of the kids is not hating your enemy, it is simply wickedness

White americans are sick – Molly Tibbets… never forget. The level of self loathing is insane.
As poster noted, whites are responsible for all of this mess, including diversity.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  My Comment
1 year ago

You know, when I first read your post, I bridled. But, the more I thought about it, the more I had to admit you are right. Eighty-five to 90 percent of American whites just ain’t worth a shit. They’re either ectomorphic dweebs with skinny clothes and scraggly beards or paunchy louts whose concept of rightism extends no farther than their gun rack. Both loathe their own heritage and civilization preferring instead to worship Afro-savages who never would have learned to wipe their arses without white tutelage. This is not the stock upon which to build a new nation, let alone… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

“It will be up to the white remnant and whites in other parts of the world.” One must here consider the concept/theory—first posed by Woodley—of “spiteful mutants”. Basically, how does the “deserving” remnant of the White race survive and thrive with those “mutants” in their ranks? A conundrum to be sure. What we can be sure of is that these mutants will not simply perish and die off as leaves falling from the tree in Fall to make room for renewed vigorous growth in the Spring. They will remain in large numbers and be a tremendous obstacle to renewal of… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

I suspect the spiteful mutants and most of the grillers will prefer to remain with their God-pets, wherein they will ultimately perish. They are more like them than us anyway, so good riddance. If I’m right, the separation itself will also be a purification of sorts.

RDittmar
Member
1 year ago

This is very very very off-topic vis a vis the situation in Ukraine, but it looks like the Z-man’s old buddies over at American Greatness have decided to slit their own wrists. I know they tend to be something of a normie-Con site, but they post some good stuff now and again that’s a lot nearer to our side of the great divide than anything the p*****s at NR would ever produce. They’ve even given pretty free rein to Paul Gottfried to post his stuff whenever he wants to. Now they’ve gone ahead and killed the comment sections like so… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  RDittmar
1 year ago

It can’t be much fun being mocked in the comments section. Colorblind CivNats have no answer to this reality: institutions are downstream from culture which is downstream from biology. Change the biology and you change everything. If you bring this up, AmGreat types either have to 1) sound like Woke crazies and say that there’s no such thing as race or biological differences, which forces them to repudiate natural selection, i.e., openly say that they’re morons; or 2) acknowledge racial differences and admit that they’re entire worldview and morality are wrong. Neither path is acceptable so they shut you down.… Read more »

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

They aren’t practiced with the leftist technique of arguing with you by claiming they don’t understand anything you’re saying and that every word means something other than it’s common meaning, thus forcing you to run around in circles in a futile attempt to get them to actually respond to your point until you finally give up and leave.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

Which raises the question of exactly who or what is funding AG. I hate to sound like Tin Foil Hat Guy, but perhaps even AG is somehow plugged into the Power Structure.

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

Bro.

We’re all Tin Foil Hat Guy now.

You’re amongst frens.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

I want to put in a nice word for Julie Kelly but whether wittingly or not, what she’s really doing is putting the fear of God into us. Seems like the regime would be pleased with her reporting in that sense.

VDH, for his part, is doing a very nice job of getting everyone used to the idea that it’s not our country anymore. And nothing else.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

I listen to his podcasts quite a bit, mostly to fill in on an academic weakness in Classicall era history. But Hanson has developed a real edge in the last couple of years—it wasnt there before. Being Swedish, I feel like he’s on the edge of shifting from reticence to Viking berserker at any minute. With no warning. And he’s old enough and has made enough money to not give a shit.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Sam,

Yeah, you can see the anger building in VDH, but he’s trapped in his colorblind CivNat mindset so he doesn’t know what to do with that anger.

He just can’t bring himself to cross the great divide to our side, but he also can’t stop looking at the destruction happening to what was once his country. He’s a conflicted man.

You definitely get the feeling that if he ever breaks free from his CivNat mental shackles, he’s going to go at it hard.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

VDH can’t break from CivNatery as to do so logically entails an acceptance of HBD science. HBD science is a “bridge too far” for most Normies. However, I can accept that they often embrace the concept in all *but* name.

Once they’ve started talking about Whites vs Blacks—or simply Whites vs minorities—it’s all but over. One need not press for the specific terminology.

RDittmar
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

I don’t know who funds AG, but I’ve been wondering along similar lines lately as well. What I’ve found absolutely maddening lately is the total refusal of so-called conservative commentators to be honest about the widespread voter fraud in 2020 and 2022. You see endless commentary about how the GOP can appeal more to the youth vote or how nominating someone “without baggage” like Meatball Ron means more soccer moms returning to the GOP but – even if there’s some merit to the argument – what difference does it make when the Dems have all the panel trucks full of… Read more »

Bash
Bash
Reply to  RDittmar
1 year ago

The strategy of ignoring fraud has a limited shelf life though.

They can still plausibly blame everything on Trumps toxicity.

What do they say 10 years from now with an uninterrupted string of D victories?

Intelligent Dasein
Intelligent Dasein
Member
Reply to  RDittmar
1 year ago

In the age of cancel culture, I don’t think any publishing outlet wants to be even peripherally responsible for any content they don’t absolutely control, and that includes the comments sections. Coincidentally, something I just wrote at Sailer’s is relevant to this topic: Other countries often have laws that strictly control the type of information that can be published about criminal suspects before their trials, and the reasoning behind these laws is pretty cogent. You don’t want to give notoriety to the criminal or to the crime, or further embarrass the victims, or taint the criminal proceedings with public expectations… Read more »

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
Reply to  Intelligent Dasein
1 year ago

I read your comment but actually it doesn’t matter. The United States is deep into a Soviet Union Level Imperial Collapse, and the only thing that will matter once it’s over is who can shoot the best and shoot the first. And that is the closest thing we can hope for regarding justice, which is dead, dead, and even more dead.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Intelligent Dasein
1 year ago

Nick Sandman case is a poor example. He was not a public figure and was the victim of outright lies/deception wrt the incident in question and to his portrayal in it. As a non-public figure, the standard of reporting wrt to accuracy vs “opinion” is much higher. It of course did not help when the news media was shown to have willfully excluded facts to portray him is the worse possible light. The media acknowledged this and settled quickly before risking an even worse outcome in the courts. There is no such thing as absolute free speech. We do not… Read more »

Daniel Ross
Daniel Ross
Member
Reply to  Intelligent Dasein
1 year ago

>and it revealed just how shallow the Alt-right’s commitment to free speech really is.

Good! The Alt-right’s commitment was to White Nationalism.

Thanks for the laugh though, one doesn’t expect to see many “principled conservatives” airing their silly notions in comment sections these days, what with all the mockery they receive from anyone who isn’t part of their geriatric bubble.

GreaseThePig
GreaseThePig
Reply to  RDittmar
1 year ago

Yes. And before they killed the comments they had some easily triggered censors who would troll users and get confrontational over ridiculous things. Of course, the sacred cow subjects were about the usual suspects, and the active censors were of the usual suspects.

The crackdown is only just beginning. What did Biden just say? He wants to Finish The Job.

Whoah baby! He doesn’t lack subtlety!

RDittmar
Member
Reply to  GreaseThePig
1 year ago

What was really starting to crack me up lately is how all these left-wing trolls were setting up phony accounts generally just to cut-and-paste a bunch of talking points over there. Some of them would try a little improv, but they would always be brand new accounts with a locked comment history and only a 100 or so posts. For the most part nearly all 100 of their posts would be on just a single article! What are these guys really trying to accomplish? Are these the same guys who’d do the old “seminar caller” bit from Rush Limbaugh days?… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  RDittmar
1 year ago

“Maybe the plan is just to poison the well with so much noise and nonsense that people start giving up on participating in the discussion,…” Precisely. That’s all it is. The main point is to disrupt a coherent thought/theme to be discerned from the comments. The secondary effect is to—on the surface—present an impression of a significant voiced opposition to the article in question. Another goal is to distract the comment section from the topic at hand in the discussion and on to insignificant points, i.e., thread hijacking. All of these problems have been discussed in forums elsewhere with examples… Read more »

Troll King
Troll King
1 year ago

The west isn’t looking to win in Ukraine necessarily. We just want to bleed Russia for as long as possible and exhaust them in order to weaken domestic support for the Putin regime. Sure, if they could have Putin hanging upside down like Mussolini and the Russians importing a government of American neocons to rule them like at the end of the Cold War, that would be the neocons’ wet dream, but they realize that is unlikely. They just want to put external pressure until the government loses support. This will likely be after Putin dies. I would compare it… Read more »

Hoagie
Hoagie
Reply to  Troll King
1 year ago

That could never happen without nuclear war.

Daniel Ross
Daniel Ross
Member
Reply to  Troll King
1 year ago

Basically this. I’ve been checking a lot of MSM sources on Ukraine recently and they don’t show anywhere near the level of optimism Z attributes to them.

https://archive.is/Dsps5

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Troll King
1 year ago

You are well named.
It is apparent to any reasonable observer that Russia and China are becoming stronger as the West is collapsing.
Your Bronze Age Death Cult masters need to get at least a passing acquaintance with reality.

Troll Kjng
Troll Kjng
Reply to  Bilejones
1 year ago

You misunderstand or I wasn’t clear. I’m saying what the western neocons’ strategy is, not what I want or that Russia will necessarily lose. I regret the terrible loss of life in Ukraine and the destruction of a great Slavic country, although I do now question the average IQ of Ukrainians, yet I still feel they are being used as tools

Mike
Mike
Reply to  Troll Kjng
1 year ago

Everything I have seen before and since the start of the war has made me believe that Ukrainians are the worst people in the world. Not bright with way too much self esteem makes for a bad combination. They’re war crime prone too which makes me hate them more.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Mike
1 year ago

“not bright with way too much self esteem”

Gee, who does that remind you of? Next they’ll be naming their babies Mirosl’avius and chugging Courvoissier with their borshch.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
Reply to  Mike
1 year ago

I watched a video short awhile back of Zelensky on his comedy show right after he won election. The video was on a foreign news site, cause you would NEVER see such a thing in the U.S. or Europe.

He read a “humorous” statement (yes, straight off a piece of paper), joking about what they all wanted to accomplish. It was a screed that was Nazi to the core, and the audience was eating it up and laughing. Those people wanted it real good, and now they’re getting it real hard. I don’t feel sorry for any of them.

george 1
george 1
Reply to  Troll King
1 year ago

Putin dies then the cult gets Medvedev. The Kagan Cult has miscalculated. What they have accomplished is to put Russia and China into an invincible alliance along with Iran and possibly a few others. This may partially explain to urgency of the GAE to engage Russia and China now while they still possess what they think is the most powerful military in the world. At this point they are most likely wrong about that as well. There are some sources you can find that will give a pretty good gauge of the average Russian’s views. Previously many were positively inclined… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Troll King
1 year ago

I didn’t know that Hasbara had an internship program for high schoolers. Congratulations.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Troll King
1 year ago

Perhaps the biggest failure of the neocons, and that’s saying something, is never, in the decades since, updating or modifying their core philosophy of the 1992 Wolfowitz Doctrine, in spite of its limitations and flaws. It enjoys the status of religious doctrine, consequences (especially the unintended ones) be damned. You can sort of forgive, or at least understand, someone thinking the way they did in 1992, but still thinking that way by 2020 is inexcusable. It should be apparent, to anyone with a brain cell or two, the recklessness of provoking war with Russia on its doorstep in the absence… Read more »

anon
anon
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

“It’s enough to make you suspect the whole thing is a show and Putin is in on it. How else to explain such otherwise inexplicable recklessness.”

Hubris and stupidity. Both in large measures.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
Reply to  anon
1 year ago

” Hubris and stupidity. Both in large measures.”

It’s worse than that. When the navy has a chick-with-a-dick as their representative, and EVERY Democrat I talk to thinks it’s horrible to remove anal and oral sexually explicit books from school libraries, it goes deeper than that. Nothing will change until those people are gone.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Coalclinker
1 year ago

The Navy is finally confirming and epitomizing every long standing joke about the branch. Now look for the Ai Force to add a “Ch” to the front of their name in the future. “Eh, why deny it any longer? Let’s hit up the GSA!”

pixilated
pixilated
Reply to  Coalclinker
1 year ago

Apropos of the library thing, my response to one of the women squawking about leaving the child porno books on the shelf versus off, I said why don’t you just make the porno books available on Kindle but keep them off the physical library shelves, then the parents can tell their children to read them that way, boy was my answer wrong, ya see, it’s not about the books, it’s about the attention they get… it’s about the attention they get. Get it?

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Troll King
1 year ago

Troll King: ‘The neocons “win” every second the clock tics if the war is going on still.’

Unless China has the industrial capacity to re-arm Mother Russia from now until the Federal Reserve finally runs out of Fiat Shekels.

Also keep your eye on India.

India is the wild card here.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
Reply to  Bourbon
1 year ago

We can’t even make the lead needed to make the bullets in ammunition. And we’re still tearing down steel mills. They just destroyed the integrated steel mill that was in my town for 147 years.

It’s not going to go on much longer. And there will be a pile of dead people. Remember what Deagal predicted back in 2016?

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Troll King
1 year ago

Problem is, it’s exhausting the West faster than the Russians. See the latest production numbers out of Germany? Down the most since (ex wartime) since the 20s crash. One of my kids has been parked in Denmark for the last 8 weeks working to get another LNG carrier into service and has spent most of his time since 1/1 shuttling around Europe on similar projects. The Euros know they lucked out with a mild winter. The Danes he’s working with up on the Baltic know damn well the US blew up Nordstream and are not happy. Won’t even bother to… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 year ago

What am I missing about Germany? I don’t understand how their heavy industry remains competitive when the country goes from below-average energy costs before the war to above-average energy cost from now on. I don’t what what % energy costs make up of industry costs, but I’d assume quite a bit. This permanent change in energy costs seems like it would require either 1) substantially reduced wages or 2) moving production to countries with cheaper energy costs, likely the US. I suppose that the companies could get more efficient, but it’s not as though they weren’t trying to be as… Read more »

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

I think German industry, especially automotive, is vastly overrated. The fact that all of those electronic components are made in China may have to do with their poor reputation for electrical problems in the cars.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Coalclinker
1 year ago

That’s basically it. “Assembled in Germany”, sure, cool, much like when my grandson put together something out of Legos, said something was assembled in the United States. So what? The materials used to make the Legos certainly didn’t derive from the States.

Xman
Xman
1 year ago

“McCarthy, who’d earlier opposed giving a “blank check” to Ukraine, gave his full-throated support while speaking to reporters in Israel on Monday.”

https://www.axios.com/2023/05/04/tucker-carlson-ukraine-fox-news-republicans

WTF…

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Xman
1 year ago

Any goyim who travel to Israel automatically lose a few IQ points. Something in the holy water, probably.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Xman
1 year ago

Why the surprise? He has never been on our side. He probably only released what he did of the January 6 tapes to Tucker because he knew: 1) Fox would only allow the smallest amount of reality to be exposed, and so would throttle this way back after this one little hope-raising foray; 2) This would provide them with the justification to “rid themselves of this troublesome priest”, and most importantly be seen to be doing so, thereby signaling their “good doggie” status. McCarthy wants to see populist sentiments dead and buried. Neocon DeSantis, or someone like him is what… Read more »

fakeemail
fakeemail
1 year ago

” a glimpse into the psyche of the people running the war for the regime. They greenlight a caper and then claim that the victim of the caper did it to himself. ”

Ah, the classic “stop hitting yourself” bully.

This is the enemy:
https://twitter.com/ClownWorld_/status/1653872537179414533

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  fakeemail
1 year ago

“They cry out in pain as they strike you”. is the usual description of the actions of that group.

fakeemail
fakeemail
Reply to  fakeemail
1 year ago

As most of you know, it is futile and a waste of breath to debate with the “great liberals” of the world. Yes, they are insane and there is the whole “bio-leninism” at play with how they play the freaks, but there is something else. Something more ingrained. Take this nasty fat guy in the video with the little pig eyes. Obviously, a hateful and vicious individual, but the final line of his tirade is, “I give a shit about other human beings.” He’s preaching his virtue as a means of doing harm to others; in this case sexually mutilating… Read more »

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  fakeemail
1 year ago

fakeemail: “I believe this is an evolutionary strategy for power and dominance.”

You’re examining the intersection between Passive Aggressive Personality Disorder and outright Sadism***.

The new kid on the block is the “Dark Empath”.

The Dark Empath: Characterising dark traits in the presence of empathy
1 February 2021
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886920303615/

==========

***Note that way back in 1987, under the direction of (((Robert Leopold Spitzer))), the American Psychiatric Association refused to formally recognize Sadistic Personality Disorder in the DSM.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadistic_personality_disorder

fakeemail
fakeemail
Reply to  Bourbon
1 year ago
Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

Check out this discussion/interview between Bill Kristol and Fredrick Kagan. These people are insane and will never quit. Regarding narrative, it’s bizarre (and terrifying) to watch them and to witness how they view reality. First, Kristol laughingly (but seriously) suggests that we let our pilots fly missions in Ukraine, maybe let Ukraine join NATO now so we get involved. They both definitely want the US to provide every weapon possible. Also, in Kagan’s mind, Ukraine has been a huge success. The Ukrainians are destroying the Russia military in his view, and it’ll take years to rebuild. NATO has never been… Read more »

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

“These guys are dangerously insane.”

It makes perfect sense, given their loyalties.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

Watching their mannerisms as they talk is instructive. It’s all just a big game for them. You can how they couldn’t care less about everyone involved, not the Ukrainians, not the Americans, not the European, not anyone (except, of course, their people).

Yeah, we all know that, but to watch their faces and how they just laugh about US pilots or troops fighting in Ukraine, it becomes so much clearer how they look at the rest of humanity. We are toys, and they really like to play with their toys.

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

Citizen of a Silly Country: “Bill Kristol and Fredrick Kagan… are insane…” From the Occidental point of view. But from the Khazarian/Oriental point of view, this is simply utterly unremarkable prosaic normalcy. Everything I needed to learn about world affairs was taught to me in Fifth Grade, and then again in Twelfth Grade, when we poor stupid idiot goyische rug rats had to stage performances of “Fiddler on the Roof” for the amusement of our Khazarain overlords. https://tinyurl.com/58j5x8y9 Of course, moi being a complete & total mouth-breathing idiot, I didn’t realize it until the last decade or two. But it’s… Read more »

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

One safe bet is to always take the side opposite of The Human Carbuncle (Kristol),

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

I’m shocked, shocked, to see that there are no comments allowed.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  KGB
1 year ago

Yeah, I noticed that as well.

What’s amazing is that Kristol and Kagan could be proven 100% wrong and they won’t pay any price. These people have been wrong about everything for 20+ years and nothing happens. It just goes to show how little power we have and how much power the usual suspects have.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

In AINO, being dead wrong is a feature rather than a bug. Has been that way for quite some time.

NateG
NateG
1 year ago

Great show! Notice how they start with Stalin when speaking about blood-thirsty Russian/Soviet leaders. Mention Trotsky, Kaganovich, Sverdlov, or possibly Lenin and their heads will explode like the guy in the movie Scanners. The Kagan cult has influence and/or dirt on just about everyone and are unfortunately running the show now. The problem is that they are overrated, incompetent and not very intelligent. The idea that Russians will overthrow Putin after terrorist attacks isn’t delusional, but stupid. Most normal people understand this, but the Kagan cult, who show up on talk shows crossing their legs like women and praising each… Read more »

manc
manc
Reply to  NateG
1 year ago

In a sane country guys like Frum, Kristol, Kagan etc would all be under house arrest.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  manc
1 year ago

Alas, AINO is the very farthest possible from sane.

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  manc
1 year ago

Or, an old Edward 1 style expulsion would seem to take care of this…

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  manc
1 year ago

Awaiting execution…

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  manc
1 year ago

There was a politician that tried to implement something like that around 100 years ago, but he is generally regarded as the epitome of evil now.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  NateG
1 year ago

Stalin, of course, was not Russian. But don’t expect the Yidistani’s to mention that.

wxtwxtr
wxtwxtr
1 year ago

Given your bottom line, I hope you are nowhere near the Beltway when Evil Putin sneaks in the Tsar Bomba.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
1 year ago

MAGA nationalists paid by Putin shot up another school!
THOSE TRUMPY B*STARDS!!

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
1 year ago

Talking about bombing cities with no military importance, it’s tough to admit Chomsky was right that the United States is fundamentally a terrorist state. Of course, his reasons was because he hates white people and now he’s changed his tune.

It shouldn’t be a surprise that’s their go-to in Ukraine, as we’ve been doing this for over 100 years.

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 year ago

100 years times about 30 or 35.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 year ago

There are a lot of folks who were right about Iraq 20 years ago who are now taking jabs, flying rainbow flags, and shouting slava ukraini. Then there are folks like me who were wrong 20 years ago and God willing won’t get fooled again. Curious to look at. Somehow they resisted the mind virus then, but are in its thrall now. Some of this is explained just by partisan politics (many of the same folks would have been gung ho to conquer Iraq if it had been a D president doing it), but partisan politics doesn’t explain all of… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
1 year ago

Ivanka cried because Syrian President Bashar Assad dropped barrel bombs on his own people!

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

Is a barrel bomb made by the same folks who make Assault Rifle-15s?

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

Yep. They are the same folks who administer IQ tests and manufacture monster trucks.

george 1
george 1
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

Designed in Langley Virginia.

TomA
TomA
1 year ago

So let’s play armchair general for a minute and try to stand in Gerasimov’s shoes. He knows that the Kagan Cult will escalate relentlessly trying to get Russia to take the bait and overreact, which theoretically would justify a NATO reaction; or failing that, give Brandon cover to send in some token US military force (Vietnam redux). The ultimate escalation would likely involve a false-flag nuclear or dirty bomb explosion somewhere in Ukraine that kills a lot of innocents. In the fevered minds of the Kaganistas, this produces sufficient public outrage at Russia to justify a US military retaliatory nuclear… Read more »

george 1
george 1
Reply to  TomA
1 year ago

In the not too distant past we had some adults in the room involved in the system. Maybe not too many but some. One can’t see any now. When the average guy in the street could do a better job of foreign policy management than any of the people running the show we are in terrible trouble. Any of us on this forum knows that no one is going to win a nuclear conflict. Everyone here knows that how a nuclear exchange would go is impossible to predict except massive destruction and death. The Russians have stated such over and… Read more »

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  TomA
1 year ago

OT: found this comment over at Zerohedge; thought you might find it funny:

“Even a black man like Dan Bongino isn’t safe”

usNthem
usNthem
1 year ago

You’d think even Zelensky would figure the hourglass is running low and he’d surreptitiously sneak off the stage to somewhere at least moderately safe. His problem, is of course, there is no place he can probably get to where he won’t be found out sooner or later – he’ll be looking over his shoulder night and day. Further, I doubt he’s made of the sterner stuff who could even semi thrive in that kind of scenario. He made a deal with the DC devil and it’ll more likely than not be the end of him one way or another.

Oswald Spengler
Oswald Spengler
Reply to  usNthem
1 year ago

“To be an enemy of the United States is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.” — Henry Kissinger

Maxda
Maxda
Reply to  usNthem
1 year ago

There is this talk of reforming the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and letting it absorb western Ukraine. That would effectively get Zelensky off the hook and safely to his Italian villa with a few $billion in the bank. It also shifts the proxy war to Poland without the rest of NATO. Russia has to spend another year grinding the Polish Army down to dust.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Maxda
1 year ago

Well considering that a substantial part of Western Ukraine was once Poland, why not.

Götterdamn-it-all
Götterdamn-it-all
Reply to  Maxda
1 year ago

The Poles were responsible for foolishly listening to Churchill and ignoring German pleas to negotiate a Danzig settlement, thus kicking off WWII. They paid a fearsome price for that bit of stupidity. And that stupidity looks to be repeating itself.

Mike
Mike
Reply to  Götterdamn-it-all
1 year ago

Leaving aside my contempt for Ukrainians, the Poles and whatever the Baltic states call themselves have proven that none of them deserve their own country. They’re only fit to be ruled by others who can keep their worst instincts supressed. Those little odious carbuncles need to be slapped down hard so maybe they’ll shut up for a little while and accept rule by their betters.

Polack
Polack
Reply to  Mike
1 year ago

The worst instincts? Be specific.
Their betters? namely?

Are you American? That would be hilarious, you probably know a thing or two about being ruled by “the betters”.

Serge
Serge
Reply to  Götterdamn-it-all
1 year ago

The Germans were planning on using Poland as an ally in their war against the Soviets. They turned west because France upheld its treaty commitments to Poland.

The British were not the primary drivers of that unpleasant scenario. The Germans were desperate to have a huge war in Europe regardless of Churchill and the Poles.

Templar
Templar
Reply to  Serge
1 year ago

It’s a shame people can still repeat eftover wartime propaganda gibberish like this and actually expect to be taken seriously.

Member
1 year ago

So unless Master P was hanging off the top of the Kremlin like King Kong, pretty sure he wasn’t in much danger. What it looks like is a desperate, failed attempt to destroy the Russian flag flying above the dome, because while the Russians win their wars on the battlefield, “our” side wants a Twitter victory to keep their Perpetually Online propagandists and their followers happy.

Pozymandias
Reply to  Pickle Rick
1 year ago

I’m sure the “attack on the Kremlin” was supposed to demonstrate that “Russia is weak” because they can’t keep people from doing this right in the capitol. My suspicion is that this was the work of freelance terrorists hired on something like Upwork or Fiver, hell maybe literally that. Could the US stop the Russians from doing the same? Probably not. They haven’t and won’t though precisely because they are not Twitterniks and understand the difference between propaganda victory and real victory as you pointed out. If anything it reinforced my suspicion that the US “military-industrial complex” is now more… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
1 year ago

“it appears this stunt was done with the admin being told” “With” or “without?” I lean toward the latter. The United States has a wide-open border and soft targets, after all. It is one thing to impoverish the serfs, another to put the nomenklatura at risk. I suspect the vast majority of war-related actions are done ad hoc by private actors and contractors. Not only does “Biden” have no obvious input most of the time, but the buffoons in his Administration also are window dressing. All stops are being pulled to prevent the war from being a 2024 campaign issue,… Read more »

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 year ago

“Raven Rock: The Story of the U.S. Government’s Secret Plan to Save Itself–While the Rest of Us Die”

Great easy read about the declassified plans and facilities US Gov had in place to survive and thrive after a nuclear war.

TLDR; You’d better believe our current government is convinced THEY’D survive a nuclear response.

The rest of us, not so much.

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

is there a spider at the center of the neocon web?

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  karl von hungus
1 year ago

I think a better question might be who does the books. Re a short quip (my comment didn’t go thru), for instance, the accounting for NGO boats that bring “refugees” and their rubber rafts to 10 miles offshore for the hired cameras, or the US govt buses and buildout of the Darien Gap. We’re seeing a global industry, a sector, that doesn’t count costs of goods sod or bottom line profits. This leads me to realize that even the participants aren’t in charge; they’re superceded by the system they are part of. In other words, a culture. Not a corporation,… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

Edit, (sorry, at work):

No, scratch that last, a cult, yes, a leading voice, but as part of a larger culture.

A culture, because the adherents gain their identity from it, and will defend and advance it as we would with our own

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  karl von hungus
1 year ago

Took your last playthrough of Deus Ex a little too seriously, Karl?

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  Forever Templar
1 year ago

life is a long game; play or die, those are the choices.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

There likely is quite a bit of tension between the Pentagon and Langley, from the outlines we see, so it would make sense for the military to keep Club Kagan under surveillance via private contractors and informants. We are seeing the factions start to go at each other from time to time now. This will get worse as the GAE recedes. I agree that Blinken, Sullivan and Nuland personally have wildly outsized input into what is happening and that is why they were inserted into their positions in the first place, but ultimately the National Security State is in control… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

If immivasion is done by outside actors, say, NGO ships taking Africans and their rubber boat to 10 miles offshore, then military private companies or corporate economic mercenaries are a dark industry as well.

Public-private, like Darien Gap, except it’s more like “private-private.”

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

NGO immivasion boats
Mil contractors
Economic hit men

Dinodoxy
Dinodoxy
1 year ago

I hadn’t heard anything at all of the drone attack on the Kremlin.

I’ll consider that ignorance as a small victory in war on “the news”.

I’ve been trying to ignore the noos for more than a year now. Which is actually amazingly difficult because the propaganda is so pervasive. Even if I avoid direct engagement someone throws it at me – what do you think about … or did you hear about….

But this one, nothing.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Dinodoxy
1 year ago

Mandatory media usage may be imposed.

Kommisar Fabulous
Kommisar Fabulous
Reply to  Jack Dodson
1 year ago

And you will celebrate!

John Q. Publicke
John Q. Publicke
1 year ago

“Poor Zelensky is traveling around Europe right now thinking he is about to get a polonium cocktail from room service.” Classic!!!!

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  John Q. Publicke
1 year ago

Shaken, not stirred…

Gespenst
Gespenst
1 year ago

Zelensky looks so worried because he keeps thinking of Ngo Dinh Diem.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Gespenst
1 year ago

Some of my lefty acquaintances have wondered since the war began about when Putler will be assassinated. Like it’s a foregone conclusion that the bad man will go away. Because all bad men go away. It’s the arc of history something something.

Mow Noname
Mow Noname
Reply to  Marko
1 year ago

The Roman Republic did just great after the Senate got rid of that Ceasar fellow.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Mow Noname
1 year ago

Go back further than that. I like to think we are in the Gracchi Revolt period of the Romano-American history timeline. The Senators eliminated both Gracchi brothers. No more pesky populist reformers, problem solved!

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Marko
1 year ago

They had better be careful what they wish for. There are powerful men in Russia who make Putin look like Edmund Muskie.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

The West would be unpleasantly surprised by how a hard-line nationalist, and that’s who’s most likely to succeed Putin, would conduct foreign policy.