Official Madness

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If you were around in the 1980’s and old enough to pay attention to the news, you remember the debate about the news media. One side, the conservatives, complained about the media bias against them. The other side, the liberals, dismissed the claim as something like a conspiracy theory. For its part, the media spent time trying to prove they were not biased at all. They would point to the one conservative story in the back pages as proof they were giving both sides equal treatment.

The funny part about that debate is everyone was right. The conservatives were right in that self-described conservatives outnumbered self-described liberals two-to-one, but the media was almost entirely liberal. The liberals were right in that it was not some sort of conspiracy to silence conservatives. The media simply reflected the opinions of the people who were in the media and politics. The media was being generous to conservatives, given that everyone they knew was a liberal.

Fast forward to the present and the media is insane. Right now, they are claiming a Mexican immigrant, who shot up a Texas mall, is a white supremacist. Here is the Washington Post version of this whopper. Here is Rolling Stone. Here is the Daily Bleat hyperventilating over it. Of course, the volunteer army of regime toadies is uncritically posting this on social media. The thing missing from all of these stories is a picture of the shooter, Mauricio Garcia.

Of course, by the time they get around to showing a picture of the shooter, someone will have doctored the photo to make him look like a German. The previous Texas spree killer, also a migrant from Mexico, was whitewashed so he could look the part, but the real photo was soon on the internet. The media did the same trick with the Uvalde, Texas shooter last year, then they edited their own news articles when the fraud was detected, but by that point it was too late.

Texas seems to be having a problem with migrants going on killing sprees and not just the mass shooting variety. Over the weekend a migrant drove into a group of migrants, killing eight and wounding ten. This does not get the same attention as the Texas mall shooter, because we are supposed to think it is perfectly normal for illegal immigrants to drive cars into pedestrians. Sadly, it is becoming normal as the country is being invaded by tens of millions of migrants right now.

The regime media telling us that brown people are now the face of white supremacy is just the next click of the ratchet in terms of media perfidy. Over the last year they told us the Russians bombed their own pipelines and the Azov battalion, festooned with Nazi iconography, are freedom fighters. Before that they told us the unvaccinated people cause vaccinated people to get Covid. Before that, they said Russians used mind control to alter the 2016 election results.

In other words, there is a pattern here. The lies from the regime have become more common, but also more outlandish. The crossdresser who shot up a Christian school was characterized as the victim. Imagine what it must be like to sit in a room with an editor who is explaining how the narrative position on the school shooter will be that the little kids she murdered are to be ignored, while the shooter is the victim. Imagine that being the new normal in the media because it is.

Lost in the mounting vulgarity is the question at the center of that old debate from forty years ago regarding media bias. Back then, people in the media could not see their own bias because from their perspective, there was no bias. Everyone they knew agreed that the media was playing it fair. If anything, the media was being too generous to those horrible conservatives. We are seeing the same thing about the grotesque dishonesty in the regime media today.

The reason the crew of eight people responsible for that Washington Post story are willing to post nonsense about the brown guy being a white supremacist is everyone they know thinks this is obviously true. When the FBI guy told them on the sly that the shooter was their primary bogeyman, they had no reason to question it. Normal people would have laughed themselves silly, but not Post writers. For them, it was confirmation of everything they know to be true.

Forty years ago, media bias was simply the result of media culture. What had been a working-class profession came to be dominated by credentialed professionals from the same upper-middle-class backgrounds. Media bias reflected the class of people who working in the media. The paranoia and penchant for wild conspiracies involving fictional bogeymen we are seeing in the regime media today also reflects the culture of the people in media. They really believe this stuff.

In fact, it reflects the managerial elite as a whole. These crackpot tales about Mexican white supremacists are not intended to sway the public. They do not care about the public, so they do not care about public opinion. They do care about opinion in the increasingly isolated elite circles. You can be sure that all of the flunkies, seat warmers and coat holders in Washington read that Post story and believed it. They believe because their bosses believe and everyone they know believes it.

That is probably the hardest thing for normal people to accept. Forty years ago, conservatives were sure they could talk their liberal friends in the media out of their obvious bias. Forty years on, normal people still think the media must know what they are doing is madness. They have to know it is fake. The truth is, they think these nutty conspiracy theories and outlandish whoppers are real. Our ruling class is as nuts as they appear to be, maybe even worse.


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1 year ago

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Davidcito
1 year ago

I was just a normie who wanted low taxes back in 2016. Because of my vote, I was called a white supremacist by the media… then i started to warm up to the idea. Maybe something similar will happen to the white hispanics.

Celticbiker
Celticbiker
1 year ago

TV is just Plato’s cave wall. Nothing new under the sun. This is not madness, but deliberate destruction.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Celticbiker
1 year ago

In the 20th century, we have much to be thankful for. Televison’s resolution quadruped (HDTV). We went from, in the famous words of Pink Floyd, “thirteen channels of shit on my TV to choose from” to hundreds, maybe thousands (if one counts streaming options). Quality? Remains elusive.

The Cave anology is quite apt with certain changes: in most casess today’s viewers are prisoners of their own volition. It’s just too much trouble to listen to that lunatic talking about some upper world.

fakeemail
fakeemail
1 year ago

Z, you must be playing naive here.

Have you not heard of Edward Bernays? The media and advertising messaging is deliberate and *always* has been; there’s not innocent mistake or misunderstanding here. Not ever.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  fakeemail
1 year ago

And based on his tattoo, the shooter was a cartel gangster..,.,Didn’t mention that, did they?!

The Greek
The Greek
Reply to  fakeemail
1 year ago

At upper levels, sometimes for sure. Let me tell you though, as someone the lives deep in the hive and went to elite northeast schools, these “journalists” do believe these things. Even when the upper level people know what they’re doing, they execute that by simply hiring true believers and the knowing it will work itself out.

Wj
Wj
1 year ago

We are seeing the problem with not voting. Election fraud aside, Trump could have been put back into office with a bigger turnout. A difference of 100k voters of the battleground states would have made the difference. No need to say what a piece of trash Trump is. He would have not let Title 42 expire, He would not have allowed 5 to 6 million over the last two years. You can not vote all you want but the demographic swamp replacing us couldn’t give less of a crap about all that. They are here. They are the new citizens.… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Wj
1 year ago

Trump had the biggest turnout of any R ever, and that cannot be chalked up merely to increasing population, which population barely did either from 2016 or from 2008 for that matter. Turnout was not his problem.

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  Wj
1 year ago

It’s increasingly apparent you cannot fox these people. It is completely lost on them that had Trump voters quadrupled, they would have simply printed more ballots to cover the difference. This undying belief in the system is exactly why the country has collapsed.

This post is literally the epitome of retards who want to “voooot harder!”. It is unbearable.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Wj
1 year ago

“A difference of 100k voters of the battleground states would have made the difference”

The only difference it would make is the in the number of fraudulent votes.

There’s a reason they occur so late.

Btp
Member
Reply to  Wj
1 year ago

I think, frendo, what we are seeing is the problem with voting. Not the problem with. It voting. You get me?

RoBG
RoBG
1 year ago

Re: Mauricio Garcia. Yesterday there were discussions on multiple sites about the tattoo on his left hand and gang affiliations. Today they’re gone and his left hand has been cropped out of all the photos I’ve seen. That’s just weird.

James Proverbs
James Proverbs
Reply to  RoBG
1 year ago

I believe it was confirmed that it was a Dallas city logo. With the photos I saw that seemed the case. The supposed gang tattoo design is very similar but his marking seemed more similar to the Dallas city logo.
Anyway not an usual “reppin my city” tattoo for a gentleman like that to have.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  James Proverbs
1 year ago

Gang members often use city emblem tatoos these days in lieu of the more conspicuous gang emblems.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  James Proverbs
1 year ago

That’s probably true. So why the censorship? The guy’s dead. He’s never going to trial. The other thing that got memory-holed was the claim that the FBI were speaking to his family through an interpreter. Now that means nothing in and of itself. 40 million Mexican citizens (1/3 of their pop) live/work in the US. The US has been the world’s pressure valve since the mid 19th century. Currently Latin America gets to export their poverty and crime to El Norte, while their regimes are propped up by foreign aid and remittances. It’s a lose/lose proposition for the US, and… Read more »

Luber
Luber
1 year ago

I’m going to have to disagree with Z on this. Not tryna flex on ya but I’ve been friends with boat loads of professionals journalists over the decades. That includes at the publications you link but from around the country. They’re like politicians: as quick as you breath, they’ll lie or change the story on you. They’re also astonishingly stupid and importantly, only read each other’s writing. They can’t understand data and only accept each other as sources. So if to prove a point you print up official stats from say the Fed’s website, they won’t even look it. It… Read more »

bob sykes
bob sykes
Reply to  Luber
1 year ago

1980’s is the correct usage

luber
luber
Reply to  bob sykes
1 year ago

Yes, if you’re illiterate. Or a beer drinker. But I repeat myself.

https://tinyurl.com/NgramDecades

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  luber
1 year ago

Wait – beer drinkers cannot write well?
Luber is right, but he wrote it without tact. Luber’s post has several errors (no comma before “importantly” and “not” nor after “ya” or after “so”). Come on – be amiable.
Signed,
A beer drinker

Getthemoneyfromtheseskels
Getthemoneyfromtheseskels
Reply to  Eloi
1 year ago

Oh yeah, sniffing your own fcuking fartz and grammer czeching like this = path to our own Nurembeer rallies.

Son, we are one our wqy!

And, uh, how many years retired on my fucking dime, Mr. Schoolteacher??

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  Eloi
1 year ago

I am in my 30s, genuis. Simply pointing out a nasty hypocrite. And I advocate for complete pessimism, not activism, Mr. Cuck.

Wind Tunnel
Wind Tunnel
Reply to  bob sykes
1 year ago

No it isn’t. It’s not a possessive or abbreviation, for f___ sake.

Steve w
Steve w
Reply to  Luber
1 year ago

Boatloads is one word, not two.

RealityRules
RealityRules
1 year ago

I do not think for one minute that Alejandro Mayorkas believes any of this. I do not believe for one minute that the first post-American triumvirate of Clinton-BushII-Obama believe this for a minute. They intend to stuff post-America full of immigrants from all over the world. They rule, and they know exactly what they are doing.

Their voters and policy supporters, are the audience of the propaganda. The people in that audience are imbeciles and/or true believers. The rulers on the other hand, want those hordes of tens of millions pouring in.

Alzaebo
1 year ago

When it comes to our politics, Sundance reminds us:

“both the DNC and RNC are private corporations with no affiliation to government.

two distinct private corporations, … that feed from the same (public-private) corporate trough” 

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
1 year ago

One question for you, Dissidents: why should you care? Most of you turned them off over 5 years ago – and they have the ratings, lay-offs and closures to show for it. We can learn from the Chinese. They laugh at Americans getting spun up by the mass media because the difference between their mainstream media and ours is that theirs are honest about being state-run mouthpieces. Ours still try to put on airs of objectivity and professionalism…. but their content is now so bad, even the lefties are bailing out on them. They don’t want to listen to stupid… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Glenfilthie
1 year ago

Good question, Glen. I suspect the interest is there because the propaganda is intended to marginalize and eventually eliminate us. But, yes, the propaganda organs are less and less relevant.

Neoliberal Feudalism
Reply to  Glenfilthie
1 year ago

One is forced to care because their decisions directly (and extremely negatively) impact your life, so burying your head in the sand is not a solution. That being said, ignoring their propaganda except to identify the directions they plan to target their enemies/the masses is I think the right approach.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Neoliberal Feudalism
1 year ago

When they ask why their property taxes went up 10% in one year and discover their community must now hire dozens of translators and ELL teachers as well as provide food shelter and medical care for the “recently arrived,” with no end in sight they may begin to care.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  RoBG
1 year ago

When they begin to care… rest assured that people will start getting shot in the face. I think it our Esteemed Blog Host once did a lecture where he pointed out historical snippets where the leadership got so bad – Americans started throwing bombs at them.
We are closing in on similar times again. These guys won’t stop – they can’t, obviously. The dementia and lunacy goes right to the top and until those guys are made an example of… things will continue to degrade.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  RoBG
1 year ago

RoBG: Wish I was wrong, but no – they won’t care even then. There are many communities across the US already like that, but the people just swallow it and ask for more.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Glenfilthie
1 year ago

Like it or not, regime media still matters. I refer you to J6 and the war in Ukraine. Not to mention a certain mask wearing crusade not long ago. I avoid them because my life is better without them, and because I don’t volunteer to be lied to, but that doesn’t mean they don’t matter.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Hmmmmmm. Yes, it matters in that regard… but they are only reaching the true believer demographic. Anyone with a pulse at this point knows they are lying. The only people I see taking them seriously at this point are the geriatrics and the zealots. The mass media could dry up and blow away… and those people will still be driven to lunacy by their favourite pozzed sites like the ones Z listed above. The internet so far has only been used effectively by one side in this culture war. What happens if WE start using it when things go kinetic?… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
1 year ago

It is not a matter of whether they necessarily believe the propaganda they generate and promote. What matters is that they support the goal and endpoint, which is White cultural and physical genocide. Lies and defamations, which also are pushed by government agents as you indicated, are merely tools to achieve the objective, the end of a race and culture and civilization. Truth is irrelevant here. While it does not matter, I tend to think many or even most do not believe the propaganda per se but share the same objective. Society is moving past the propagandists at least around… Read more »

imnobody00
imnobody00
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 year ago

Yes, this is completely right. Z has a blind spot about that and tends to interpret everything as a swarm behavior or true belief. They are true believers about the goals, not about the means. And the end always justifies the means. They think diversity is the ultimate good but not that Mauricio Garcia is white. They are positive they are on the side of angels, on the right side of history and, of course, on the side of their own interest (that comfy job that demands allegiance to the cause). Lying and doing all kind of unethical stuff is… Read more »

B125
B125
1 year ago

I don’t really know what to say. Elite madness all around. Full court press for open borders across the whole West. Canada is letting in over 1 million “legal” “immigrants” per year. The US is now looking to achieve the same thing, but instead of doing it legally they will simply arrange for tens of millions of illegals to flood in from the south. Germany and Australia have new plans in place to increase immigration even further. “Legally”. Hard to escape bad elites. Landmasses that are currently known as ‘Canada’, ‘America’, ‘Germany’, etc. clearly no longer exist in any meaningful… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  B125
1 year ago

The effect if not the outright goal is genocide whether or not they can articulate it or even can understand it.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  B125
1 year ago

What has happened with ICE, Border Patrol etc. is really remarkable. When ordered by their superiors to violate the law and enable and expedite the flow of illegal aliens into the country, you never heard a peep of protest out of them. They became willing accomplices, immediately. And you know how hard it is to fire a federal employee. It’s not as if they had that to fear.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Jeffrey Zoar: Majority of ICE and Border Patrol employees are non-White, non-heritage Americans themselves. They don’t care.

steveaz
steveaz
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

Back in 2011, I bought land within 90 miles of the border in Southern Arizona, and, in less than one month, I was set-upon by the US CBP. I am a law-abiding, tax-paying American citizen. Ponder this: during the course of my average daily errands, I was serially stopped, followed – sometimes tail-gated – for miles, and one “officer” pulled his gun on me. For no expressed reason, or legal justification. Back in 2016 I read that a fellow was gunned down by local agents on the Bisbee/Sierra Vista strip of highway. Some blurb about him resisting arrest followed, but,… Read more »

Valley Lurker
Valley Lurker
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Don’t know if it applies given I have no actual idea about those agencies, but given they are law enforcement you are looking most likely for two words why they did absolute dick about it: “Muh” & “Pension”

Neoliberal Feudalism
1 year ago

None of this is new; official media organs have always been owned and completely controlled by the ruling class. Here’s John Swinton, the editor of the (at the time) hugely influential New York Sun, commenting on this in 1883: “There is no such a thing in America as an independent press, unless it is out in country towns. You are all slaves. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dares to express an honest opinion. If you expressed it, you would know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid… Read more »

Neoliberal Feudalism
Reply to  Neoliberal Feudalism
1 year ago

Also David Rockefeller states in his memoirs, “We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years……It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supernational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Neoliberal Feudalism
1 year ago

Intellectual is a strong word.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
1 year ago

If 9/11 had occurred in 2022 rather than 2001, the pilots of the four airliners would have been portrayed by the propaganda wing as white supremacists, and the event would have been used to justify intensifying the crackdown on normal white people. We all know this to be true.

Stranger in a Strange Land
Stranger in a Strange Land
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

As the planes crashed into the buildings, the were pilots were heard to scream: Allahu Whitey…

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Stranger in a Strange Land
1 year ago

…through mouthfuls of pulled pork and Old Milwaukee.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Nobody ever heard of Reagan Derangement Syndrome. Or Bush Derangement Syndrome with respect to the elder one. But the most recent two R presidents were each inspirations for this so called Derangement (perhaps Nixon was too, even though it was never so named). What this suggests is that the more modern “leftist” (for lack of a more succinct descriptor) is unable to accept it when his “side” is out of power, and becomes deranged. Which includes upwards of 90% of the regime media. So he must deceive to prevent the loss of power, and the derangement. Moreover, the 21st century… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

What you say about the activism of journalists goes equally for professors, CEOs, film directors, and high-ranking politicians. In all of these cases, the actual job has been subjugated to the goal of ideological conquest. These people are Stokley Carmichaels and Abbie Hoffmans masquerading as scholars, businessmen, and artists, etc.

imnobody00
imnobody00
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

The problem is the University. Once they captured the University, they capture the culture: they made activists out of journalists, teachers, judges, media professionals, corporate managers, etc. They get them young, when they are idealistic and prone to peer pressure and convince them that their goal in life is to advance progressivism. Then you end up with generation of mindless progressive zombies. A tide that can’t be resisted.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  imnobody00
1 year ago

Precisely. Never has a truer post been made on this site.

Gauss
Gauss
1 year ago

While I generally agree that the regime mostly doesn’t care about public opinion, there are still plenty of useful idiots among the rabble who buy the lies hook, line, and sinker. I’d estimate that 20 to 30% of the public believe the BS and that has value for the regime. For one thing, a small fraction of those can be counted on to turn up at protests to heckle normal people and to act as the shock troops for the regime.

Xman
Xman
1 year ago

I was around in the 1980s closely following the news. The big difference between then and today is that the “liberals” were actually “liberal” in the classical sense — i.e., they believed in rooting out government corruption, they believed in the First Amendment, the Fourth Amendment, the Fifth Amendment, and the Eighth Amendment. Differences between liberals and conservatives were about policy, not ideology. Consequently you could actually debate them. Liberals would cite Jefferson and Madison as the basis for their views. Even MLK cited Jefferson — a slaveowner — in “Letter from Birmingham Jail.” Liberals respected the heritage of the… Read more »

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  Xman
1 year ago

Who is the retard who downvoted this post? FFS.

fakeemail
fakeemail
Reply to  Xman
1 year ago

That’s just what they could get away with then. They were always traitorous shit-heads; they just seemed a little more respectable then.

Xman
Xman
Reply to  fakeemail
1 year ago

No, I don’t think so. “Liberals” back then — like Mondale, Carter, Dukakis, etc. and even before that going back to Adlai Stevenson — were basically New Dealers. Reagan, a former Democrat, was basically a New Dealer himself. These people were not wild-eyed radicals but firmly part of the Establishment. Liberals of the 1970s and 1980s were anti-Communist, they knew damn well that there was no free speech or due process in Communist countries. They would get pissed off when the U.S. would support right-wing juntas that suppressed journalists and threw political prisoners in prison. Liberals of the 1970s and… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  fakeemail
1 year ago

Agreed. I respect Xman very much, but I think he gives the Lefties to much credit here.

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

Well, I was there. I KNEW 1980s “liberals.” I could never figure out whether my favorite undergrad professor (straight out of the 1950s, he was old in the 1980s) was an Adlai Stevenson Democrat or an Earl Warren Republican. Probably the latter, as his scholarship was on Herbert Hoover, but frankly it didn’t make much difference either way. Recall that some of the biggest liberals of the 1960s-1970s were Republicans — Warren, Blackmun, George Romney, Ford, Nelson Rockefeller. I am not giving them any “credit” by saying that they were establishment figures who were not in favor of giving a… Read more »

imnobody00
imnobody00
Reply to  Xman
1 year ago

“he wasn’t pushing for illegal immigration, reparations for Negroes, gay marriage, or ripping down statures of General Lee, and he considered himself a patriotic American veteran.”

The time for these causes had not come yet. If he lived in our time, he would support these topics. The liberal say as he is told by his masters.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Xman
1 year ago

imnobody is correct. Transport all those Leftists from the 80s you grudgingly admire to the present and they would be completely onboard with every item of lunacy. MLK himself, would have conducted St. George immolations and he would most assuredly be stumping for so-called reparations.

Felix Krull
Member
1 year ago

I’m not sure I buy this. If they really had drunk their own Kool Aid, they wouldn’t feel a need to use deceptive language.

So when a journalist writes “died with Corona”, it’s not because he can’t speak English; he’s perfectly aware that he’s gaslighting his readers, that he’s colporting fake news and banking on the talmudic “with” to provide plausible deniability when he’s put before the Truth- and Reconciliation Tribunal.

Same with the white supremacist Mexicans: if they really believed in their own yarn, they wouldn’t bother to whiteface the photos of the shooter.

Maxda
Maxda
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 year ago

I think there has to be a spectrum based on intelligence. The really dumb ones believe all of it. The really smart ones are either dedicated Marxists or repeating the lies for their own gain.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 year ago

But Trump! is a big motivator for them to deceive. If they don’t lie, then we might get the Trump again. And nothing terrifies them more than that. I’m not 100% sure why he has this effect on them, what is so fearsome about him, but he does and to them, he is. Of course they were dishonest and crazy before Trump, but not as. He really sent them over the moon.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

It’s not Trump that terrifies them, they’re terrified by the rapturous tidal wave of white voters who (mistakenly) thought Trump was about white identity politics. As Trump said: “They’re not after me, they’re after you. I’m just in their way.”

They thought they had the new millennium locked in, that they had buckbroken the last white Americans but suddenly people are out there in the millions openly doing engaging in subversive activities like singing the national anthem, waving the flag, laughing and being joyful.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 year ago

Trump’s “they’re not sending their best” statement from the 2016 campaign regarding immigration really freaked out the left and their universal egalitarian beliefs.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 year ago

It’s still Trump that scares them as he’s their rallying point. So the question is, why? Because he’s a “bull in a China shop”. I believe Trump is the first President that was *not* a politician prior to office. Yes, there were attempts to gain the office by political neophytes before, but Trump made it in. No one really knew what Trump was going to do in office or how to control him. Heck, I remember conservative pundits stating categorically Trump was a NY Liberal and would never follow up on his promises—say on abortion or immigration. Their (establishment) fear… Read more »

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

I don’t know what the Chris Christy-story is about but his cabinet was stuffed with neocons and you-know-who. My impression is that he wasn’t a bad president but he didn’t do much for white people either. I must admit that Trump Derangement Syndrome is a pretty convincing spectacle, but I think the libs are projecting their hate for his Deplorable voters onto Trump himself, cargo cult-style. Trump is not an impressive or dangerous person – he can be a pretty good troll at times but he posts a lot of cringe too. Imagine what Tucker Carlson could do with the… Read more »

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 year ago

I disagree. Imagine you are in a heated argument with your wife. Wouldn’t you lie to justify your position in a truly heated argument? Further, though in the moment you may recognize your lying, doesn’t the commitment to the argument supersede your conscience, and even your consciousness of your deception?
I am not saying this is literally you – just the virulence of their commitment and their perception of their deception.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Eloi
1 year ago

But I’d still know I were lying, so I would need to use casuistry to get my way, and it would be apparent to an attentive bystander that I didn’t actually believe what I said.

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 year ago

That’s my point (the last few words). For the briefest of moments, yes, there is probably awareness. But then it is showed right down and out of mind.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Eloi
1 year ago

It’s in their mind long enough for them to type in “died with corona” – again and again and again.

That’s not a mistake, that’s deliberate, systematic deception. They want plausible deniability: “Oh, no your honor! I told no lie! I never claimed six million people died of corona, I always said that they died while being infected.”

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Eloi
1 year ago

Nope, the mass formation psychosis is a real thing; they actually do believe the horse shit, and that is what makes it impossible to adduce evidence and argumentation to talk them down off of the curtains. The very fact of our articulation and advocacy of a different worldview sends them into a spittle-spewing frenzy. Their sense of self, such as it is, is challenged by this, and it imperils their certitude concerning their Weltanshauung. They define these things in a dialectical, inherently situational manner, always in opposition to, always subject to change, and never really in any kind of settled… Read more »

Mow Noname
Mow Noname
Reply to  JerseyJeffersonian
1 year ago

The great unwashed DO believe the horse $#@! (or are complicit).

Trump is literally Hitler. Fauci saved us all with the “lockdowns”, masks, jabs, boosters. Saint Floyd was murdered by bloodthirsty white police. Printing money makes everyone rich. Carbon dioxide will kill us all. Diversity is a strength.
Electric cars/ windmills/ solar panels / recycling make economic sense. White people are the problem…

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  JerseyJeffersonian
1 year ago

Yes, the useful idiots believe it but the professors and the journalists?

Again: if they believed it, why would they feel the need to lie? If they thought that shooter was really a white supremacist, they’d go on about Spain and Cortez and Pizarro and the Inquisition and genocide in the Spanish Main. Instead they whiteface the shooter and try to make people think he’s American.)

Devon Tracey just had a week of free videos, including his monthly mass shootings roundup. 90% of the perpetrators are black – you think the journalists don’t know that?

https://rumble.com/v2m0x2p-who-did-the-mass-shootings-in-april.html

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 year ago

While I actually agree with you, whether or not the propagandists believe their lunacy or not is irrelevant. They share the same goal, which is White cultural and physical genocide and anything that advances that goal is supported.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 year ago

While I actually agree with you,

Ditto-ish, except I don’t think the crazies are the ones calling the shots. My initial objection was to Z-man’s last paragraph:

Forty years on, normal people still think the media must know what they are doing is madness. They have to know it is fake. The truth is, they think these nutty conspiracy theories and outlandish whoppers are real. Our ruling class is as nuts as they appear to be, maybe even worse.

I think that’s dangerously wrong. These people are not crazy, they’re evil and they are very good at what they do.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 year ago

Ditto-ish here as well. They are quite dangerous and it is unwise to dismiss that, but their efficacy has slipped lately because many lack impulse control. I will concede that it simply may be that they have accelerated their pace of late so more mistakes will be made more quickly.

Still, they have always exhibited impulsiveness to the point of recklessness. It has been a brake albeit a small one. The lies are increasingly undisciplined, to cite one example.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 year ago

The particular useful idiots to whom they address their falsehoods have little to no historical knowledge, so it would be as if these professors and journalists suddenly had lapsed into speaking Chinese; they would be tuned out. It is ever so much better for these sorts to yammer about some “current thing” devoid of information othar than to tell their audience who to hate. That works with these pinheads who have been sedulously cultivated to only heed the clarion call of the “current thing”. So, yeah, in a way they are lieing, but that is what the left always does,… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 year ago

Consider the possibility that both Zman’s last paragraph and you detractors may be correct: I fail to see why a person or a group cannot be both batshit crazy and highly intelligent. (I’ve known a few.) Of course the former quality minimizes the probability of rational behavior.

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Compsci
Compsci
1 year ago

“Forty years on, normal people still think the media must know what they are doing is madness. They have to know it is fake.” The problem is explained by the old Freudian concept of “projection”, only this time it’s Conservative projection onto Leftists of Conservative understanding/interpretation of reality. Joe Normie persistently assumes the Leftist he is “debating” views and interprets observable reality, more or less as he does. Therefore there is a basis for argument leading to persuasion and finally conversion. Nothing is further from the truth. Joe Normie needs to spend some time observing patients in a psychiatric facility… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

This, well explained. All that matters is the endgame.

TomA
TomA
1 year ago

The common denominator is all of this chaotic violence is that random innocents pay the price of current policies that turn a blind eye at open borders and play catch & release with common criminals while persecuting patriotic citizens that still try to preserve sanity (see the Marine that restrained a psycho on a train as an example). The status quo in the US is that lots on innocents must die from random violence, but Dan Bongino will come to your house and personally beat you up if you so much as mildly grouse about his “non-violence at any cost”… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  TomA
1 year ago

I think the contributing cause is the polarization of society into two classes, “victim” and “oppressor”. Of course, one is morally obliged to resist his oppressor. This allows/inclines those of low intellect, violent proclivity, and mental imbalance to strike out at typical citizens going about their lawful business. That the victims had little or nothing to do with the aggressor’s perceived victimhood means nothing to such a disordered mind. They are part of the oppressors. Part of the “system” that oppresses. Therefore fair game.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

Aye. Stochastic terrorism, indeed…

Alzaebo
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

Aw, shoot, good catch.
Can’t see it coming.

Pozymandias
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

I’ve gotten to where I basically just don’t like to go out and interact with people in my neighborhood anymore. The basic reason is that there’s what you might call a “plurality of abnormality” here. When you add the large number of hobos, the foreign weirdos gibbering in their native languages, the gays, the petty criminals, the potheads and addicts, the purple hairs, and the outright insane, there’s a majority of people here that a normal, intelligent heterosexual isn’t going to want anything to do with. It’s not that these people like each other either of course. Most of them… Read more »

Andy Texan
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

Being against ‘oppression’ is the moral imperative that allows the devout progressive to ignore reality and any counter arguments. They will not hear any opposition to the current thing including from old liberals, past or present, such as RFK, Jr. Old liberals must constantly update their progressive credentials or be cast out of the group.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  TomA
1 year ago

From my favourite bent UK cartoonist here’s a somewhat on topic one for TomA 😀

[Disclaimer: cartoon violence and coarse lanuage; if those offend you please refrain.]

https://www.oglaf.com/closed-casket/

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
1 year ago

It’s a secular cult, like Heaven’s Gate. The termination point of their craziness would be to openly advocate for a nuclear war to “save democracy.” If we see them all walking around in the same pair of Nikes we’ll know it’s close. Since most of them are irreligious we can’t expect any type of base morality from them. They’re different at the core.

ray
ray
Reply to  JR Wirth
1 year ago

‘It’s a secular cult, like Heaven’s Gate.’ An eschatological secular cult, yes. Not a novel cult however, but the oldest cult on the planet, with new hairstyle and bling. They have no ‘base morality’ because God is not in them. Doesn’t wanna be or never was, I’m sure I don’t know. But I do know He ain’t there. Has to do with their acceptance and embrace of lies, is my guess. Something must fill the void inside, and that something is the Woke-Fem Politburo, Identity Politics, etc. Explains why in my personal experience the daily lives of these persons often… Read more »

Andy Texan
Reply to  JR Wirth
1 year ago

Have they not done this (advocate nuclear war to save ‘democracy’)? Our ‘leaders’ are currently fighting and killing Russians in Ukraine (and refusing negotiations) to make the world safe for their ‘rules based international order.’ Notice that this is the opposite position they took in declining to oppose the Soviet Union.

krustykurmudgeon
krustykurmudgeon
1 year ago

getting back to what i was talking about yesterday. Is it possible that a lot of the twentieth century was a mirage? The showbiz days of Gordon MacRae, Gene Kelly, Dick Haymes etc – what if it was run by the same weirdos that run things now and we just didn’t know it then?

It reminds me a little bit of the astronaut meme where it’s like “always has been”. Or the scene in Breaking Bad where Hank says “it was you. All along it was you.”

Luber
Luber
Reply to  krustykurmudgeon
1 year ago

I hate to say it but I’ve come to believe a lot of history from the 1900s forward is probably fabricated. To what extent I don’t know and I don’t go around talking about it too much (or else people look at you like you’re out of your gourd).

James Proverbs
James Proverbs
Reply to  krustykurmudgeon
1 year ago

I am in a phase of relearning 20th century history. Based on the dishonesty of the media and official record for current and recent events, one can only assume the same for our taught perception of history.
To that end, currently reading Pat’s “The Unnecessary War”.
My feeling is the deceit is much more ubiquitous than I even care to guess.
Going down the Jolly West/CIA rabbit hole as well.

krustykurmudgeon
krustykurmudgeon
Reply to  James Proverbs
1 year ago

were the people in charge then as psychopathic as the Fink/Yellen cabal or were they more harder to connect the dots on?

krustykurmudgeon
krustykurmudgeon
Reply to  krustykurmudgeon
1 year ago

edit: that’s an open ended question

Podesta means Chief
Podesta means Chief
Reply to  James Proverbs
1 year ago

Read Stephen Kinzer’s ‘Poisoner-in-Chief,’ about Sidney Gottlieb, head of the MK Ultra program. Truly monstrous what they did, including to children, in academic institutions and black sites in the US, Canada, Japan, Europe. And we only know what they overlooked destroying, per order of Richard Helms.

3g4me
3g4me
1 year ago

Not only is the entire narrative a lie, but everything is framed in such away as to appeal solely to emotion and ignore or blur the facts. The Allen ‘victims’ thus far include an Indian who popped over 2 years ago to work for another Indian and a Korean couple and their son. If they or the shooter had stayed in their own countries where they belong, none of this would have happened. Either way, not my people, not my problem.

Guest
Guest
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

With respect, that’s pretty damn harsh. Many of us here have issues with the immigration system, which has effectively eliminated the border, but these people did not deserve to be murdered in cold blood. Even if you have no compassion for them, comments like that are best kept to yourself, as they do nothing good for our side.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Guest
1 year ago

Guest: The truth tends to be ‘harsh.’ Nowhere did I suggest they ‘deserved’ to be murdered – but I did correctly note that had they not decided it was their right to live in what used to be a White nation, they would have remained safe among their own people.

If this truth upsets you so, I suggest you are perhaps not suited for the coming conflict.

Steve (retired/recovering lawyer)
Steve (retired/recovering lawyer)
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

I continue to wonder: are these “immigrants” of the same stock as the plucky bunch that arrived here back in the 18th, 19th and early 20th Century? You know, the ones who left their homes with no guaranties of anything but a chance to work and better their lives free of governmental oppression. Or are they more in the mold of our current bunch of whining, self-entitled losers, who, despite generations spent in this country have failed to take advantage of its freedoms, or having taken those freedoms for granted, now want nothing more than to eliminate them in favor… Read more »

Eloi
Eloi

I used to have a lot of contact with first and second gen South/Central American groups (up until three years ago). Here’s my breakdown:
First generation (parents and kids): Work hard, respectful, decent.
They still use the system (e.g. off the books income and foodstamps). Go to a grocery store and see how the booze is paid with cash, the food paid with EBT.
Second generation: Awful.

steveaz
steveaz

Hey Steve, Every Venezuelan immigrant that crosses into the US puts a chill up the Democrats’ spines. Assassins have been instrumental in turning regimes many times in human history. Only .0001 % of our Venezuelan ‘guests’ need to be Sicarios. And it is the Democrat Left that took the most money from – and made the most promises to – the Chavez regime in the ‘oughts. So they have the most to fear. What the Clinton gang didn’t get is, it’s not smart to take foreign money from infamous ‘players,’ on the sly, for hollow promises. Silly Rabbit, Trix is… Read more »

Guest
Guest
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

Actually, your comment most definitely did imply that they deserved their fate for coming here. There’s no other reasonable reading of that comment. These people are not ‘vicitms’, they are, in fact, victims. And one was a child. Show a little compassion in public, even if you have none in private. The vast majority of any upcoming conflict will be won or lost in the court of public opinion. And if you are too blind or stupid to see that comments like yours simply provide proof to Normie that the morons in the media who claim white supremacy is responsible… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Guest
1 year ago

Guest: You have obviously chosen to ‘infer’ and ‘assume.’ I meant precisely what I said, and I said what I meant. I am not the least interested in ‘persuading’ Joe Normal. If Zman finds my comments objectionable, he is well within his rights and abilities to censor them – it is his blog, not yours or mine. I wonder, if you find so many who comment here to be ‘trash,’ that you deign to grace us with your presence. I also find it notable that you consider any White who states that non-Whites are a distinct and different people to… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Guest
1 year ago

And how, pray tell, does one convince normie if one cannot speak plain truths? What you appear to advocate is the sort of mincing cant that clarifies nothing and therefore has no power whatsoever to persuade. In other words, your approach enables a status quo that is fatal to Western civilization. You might be better suited chewing the fat with the boys over at the Heritage Foundation.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Guest
1 year ago

Frankly, the court of public opinion needs to be slapped upside its collective head. It’s one of the reasons this dump of a (former) country is circling the toilet bowl. The court has sanctioned or at the very least stood by while all sorts of degeneracy has been foisted on society and the culture. The “can’t we all just get along” mantra is dead as the proverbial door nail.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Guest
1 year ago

Ostei,

“Mincing cant”. Ah, an apt characterization, regrettably.

Guest, in just a few short years, things have gotten really, really bad for us Crackers. And some of us here have no compunctions about getting pretty direct about what, and how, we speak about the rapidly dwindling prospects for us, and for those whom we care about. We are getting serious eliminationist rhetoric being directed at us. Do you even comprehend what this forbodes? Under these conditions, we’re done with mincing.

Diversity Heretic
Member
Reply to  Guest
1 year ago

I’m beginning to take the attitude to these mass shootings that I do to Egyptian ferry sinkings or Pakistani train derailments; tragedies to be sure, but inherent in the nature of the country in which they take place.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
1 year ago

I’ve heard that the idea of ‘white’ people was born as a result of slavery in colonial Virginia, roughly meaning ‘free’, whereas ‘black’ roughly meant slave. Maybe I misunderstood that, because I wonder about the status of indentured Europeans and African freedmen, but it seems common-sensical that the terms would carry those connotative meanings.

Which then makes me wonder if ‘whiteness’ is just an updated term, meaning someone who isn’t under control. Gotta end that whiteness, right?

krustykurmudgeon
krustykurmudgeon
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 year ago

that’s an noel ignatiev type argument

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  krustykurmudgeon
1 year ago

Which would make perfect sense in terms of the discourse.

Personally, I like the idea of getting back to ethnicity. Probably an appreciation of diversity and uniqueness. Even still, there are ideas of Dutch, English, Italian, Polack, etc., in my neck of the woods, although the young seem to be losing it.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 year ago

Our enemies see us as White and attack us as White. We have to defend ourselves under the same terms, as White.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 year ago

Right. I talk about white people because that’s where we’re at. Yankeedom ended, and the whole country became multiracial. However, I’m very confident that if Whitopia came to pass, we would quickly be talking about ethnicity instead of race. In fact, I’m certain of it because I practically grew up there, and that’s how it was. Not that there was enmity, but it was something you were aware of. Iow, white people are only white in the presence of other races, and in America that carries the historical context of colonialism and slavery. We’re regressing in terms of national identity… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 year ago

This is where the mid east proverb is useful: me against my brother, my brother and me against my cousin, etc. We are well beyond the parsing of intra-White ethnicities if we want to survive.

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 year ago

No. Whiteness is a term coined by Noel Saul Ignatiev as a mild cover for his promotion of the genocide of white people. White people are by definition all people descended from indigenous European peoples who are not Jewish. Saul used this term to claim that there is no such thing as white people. Then he, as the psychopathic, genocidal cult leader that he is, would speak about killing white people. Whiteness was a term he invented that allowed him to refute critics that he was advocating for the genocide of our people by saying, ‘no, no, no, no. I… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  RealityRules
1 year ago

This is a problem with tenure as well. It used to protect freedom of thought and opinion, now it covers such “hate speech” and thought.

Lugo Rights
Lugo Rights
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

I’m unsure how you can have one without the other, unfortunately. The more interesting question is how his thinking came to dominate the intellectual class in the first place.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Lugo Rights
1 year ago

That’s the conundrum to be sure. However, often when one studies the history of such folk and their academic production, one finds they are substandard/unproductive intellectuals and Hide” behind tenure.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  RealityRules
1 year ago

“Whiteness is a term coined by Noel Saul Ignatiev as a mild cover for his promotion of the genocide of white people.”

“Which then makes me wonder if ‘whiteness’ is just an updated term, meaning someone who isn’t under control. Gotta end that whiteness, right?”

Where is the substantive difference in those statements, other than the difference between slavery and destruction?

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 year ago

Because the someone is just anyone who isn’t under control. There are plenty of non-whites who are not under control.

This is not a general purpose target of those who are not under control. It is a specific target of those who are white – whether they are under control or not. i.o.w. it isn’t about control, it is about race. That is the difference.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  RealityRules
1 year ago

“There are plenty of non-whites who are not under control.”

“The previous Texas spree killer, also a migrant from Mexico, was whitewashed so he could look the part”

If it was just about white people, they wouldn’t be whitewashing Mexicans. I understand taking being the bogeyman personally. It is jarring being on the receiving end. But I’m certain it’s the same old majority/minority BS with a couple of the characters switched.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  RealityRules
1 year ago

It’s the same old racial and ethnic strife that happens whenever there’s not a dominant majority. In this case brought on by the decline of the white majority. If that wasn’t happening, this wouldn’t be happening. But this is America, so we have dance and play games instead of calling it what it is.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  RealityRules
1 year ago

I mean, it’s another head game. The South had the Klan because there were lots of blacks down there. Neo-nazi gangs in prisons because whites are a minority there. Also, Kevin MacDonald’s thesis, of course.

It’s the psychology of how minorities survive in hostile environments. Is that yet the reality, or are we being maneuvered into it; being convinced to accept losing, minority status as a way of achieving losing, minority status? It strikes me as losing the fight before you step in the ring.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  RealityRules
1 year ago

Harvard fully supports the psychopath’s goal.

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 year ago

As a guy who reads a lot of old literature, I have a couple observations: 1) Classic lit never used white to refer to ethnicity. They would use dark or black for two reasons: to indicate swarthiness or to indicate evilness. 2) There would be no need to use a word “white.” People generally existed with like-skinned people, so there would be no need to define themselves in contrast to another group. 3) Epithets (roughly corresponding to nationality or religion) were much more common, e.g. Moor, Frank, Venetian, Papist, etc. 4) The proliferation of the term “white” seems to correspond… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Eloi
1 year ago

“The proliferation of the term “white” seems to correspond with the use of the term “African American.” I think we can venture why someone like Ignatiev (“Early Life”) would encourage this growth.”

Exactly right. Make white the new black and end whiteness.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 year ago

And get conservatives to scream DR3 without stating the obvious subtext.

ray
ray
1 year ago

“Our ruling class is as nuts as they appear to be, maybe even worse.” Nuts? Nah. We’re witnessing the intentional — gloatingly intentional — imposition of widespread evil in the name of empowerment, enrichment, and social-solidarity with The Hive. To believe, like most folks of the Right, that the consistent and willful lying of the Hive is a feature of ‘madness’ lets the enemies of God and country off the hook. Gives them another excuse narrative. Those doing evil become victims yet again, this time of ‘mental illness’, and so require therapy, understanding, pharmacologic intervention, and our tolerance and sympathy.… Read more »

sneakn
sneakn
1 year ago

Charles Murray made a post about how Ayn Rand’s villains seemed cartoonish when she first published but now they are 100% real. Reminded me that it’s time to read Atlas Shrugged. The corruption is beyond fiction, it’s so deep it’s unfathomable to normie. On some level even normie knows.

Gespenst
Gespenst
Reply to  sneakn
1 year ago

Rand’s villains are her most believable characters. Her heroes are preposterous and cartoonish.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Gespenst
1 year ago

Most all hero’s are cartoonish—especially in today’s society and “nuance” understanding. However, today we are in the grip of the “anti-hero” mentality which did not exist in Rand’s time.

I would argue we are not better off with an anti-hero culture.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  sneakn
1 year ago

Atlas Shrugged is a good read for talented but alienated teenagers. At least it was for me. Otoh, it justified dropping out. Looking at things today, I certainly must not have been the only one, but the thing is, there’s no Galt’s Gulch where you’ll be left alone. With the wisdom of hindsight, I would’ve made a different choice— one more, let’s say, culturally appropriate for me. But the good news is, having dropped out, you can always jump back in, with the advantage of having less to lose. Who is John Galt? More like Who is John Smith? Enjoying… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 year ago

In the time, Rand’s novel was quite popular. As we saw in WWII with “Kilroy was here!” graffiti, so I saw in many places—particularly restrooms—“Who is John Galt”. Never knew the origin ‘til I read he book in HS.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 year ago

Agreed, that Rand’s good guys are rather idealized. Nor are there the science fiction level hardware that Rand envisioned. It’d be nice to have the ability to generate unlimited power pollution-free, and perhaps refractor rays for privacy to hide your secret retreat. Being able to take over worldwide communciations would be a plus for announcements. But on the downside, having a weapon that would pulverize every structure within hundreds of square miles, not so much. Alas, many of Rand’s envisioned political and economic disasters — whether a government seizure of private assets, or the eventual confusion and systemic breakdown of… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  sneakn
1 year ago

Ayn Rand? Alisa Zinov’yevna Rosenbaum!
Rosenbaum was a completely ridiculous person who pushed the worst possible views. She was anti-White, anti-Christian and a sexual degenerate as well. She turned vice into virtue.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

She was, in other words, a libertarian 😆

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 year ago

Well, there’s another designation for Alisa that probably explains more.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

So what? Ayn Rand was a Soviet refugee and this shaped her thinking wrt to capitalism. She was one of the greatest proponents of the system and worshiped capitalists. She had her place in the great Cold War struggle which included ideologies as well as economic systems.

She also published any number of other novels. One very moving one was “Anthem” which had quite a theme wrt group think and the backwardness of socialism. If you hate Rand, then you must really despise Orwell as he was a former socialist as well. However we quote him here regularly.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

Orwel wasn’t anti-White, wasn’t anti-Christian (Rosenbaum was unbelievably anti-Christian) and was a Western man.

She was anti-communism. BFD. She opposed an ideology of her brethren, none of which would have been a problem had they not been present in our societies.(a game of good Rosenbaum/bad Rosenbaum) She was also pro-war, especially for Israel’s enemies.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

You simply can’t get past your antisemitism. And that weakens any criticism of Rand. Rant as you will, I simply can’t agree simply because you’ve pointed out a Jew in the woodpile.

Rand was non-religious to be sure as are any number of commenters here. Again, so what? We were talking about her most famous novel, “Atlas Shrugged” and her over the top portrait of heroic *capitalists* and despicable pol’s.

Your contribution—”…But she’s a Jew…”. Not really on topic, is it.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

@compsci I’m not, or least I don’t consider myself to be an antisemite. I’m well grounded in this area. My criticism of Rosembaum is not because I hate her for being Jewish. It’s because she was an evil woman who was viciously anti-Christian and anti-White. Pointing out that she’s not White is important. When someone who is not of your ethnic group has taken on a fake name to hide that fact while trashing your group, it is important that people understand what they are doing. She was not just an atheist preaching atheism. She was virulently anti-Christian. While she… Read more »

Alzaebo
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

Point to Tars: Ayn was one of the “economic libertarians”, wasn’t she, one of the gatekeepers channeling Anglo-saxon cultural morals into safe, bland, equalitarian lanes.

usNthem
usNthem
1 year ago

It’s getting harder in this day and age to get worked up over these mass killings. Yeah, I feel for the victims and their families, but they’ve become so ubiquitous, it’s depressing. Obviously the government doesn’t care, other than to pin it on Whites as best they can and to further their efforts to undermine and ultimately abolish the 2A. And if hundreds or thousands need to die in the process, well you have to break a few eggs for that omelette, right? Literal daily jogger shootings by the dozen are routinely ignored, but if Whitey is somehow involved or… Read more »

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  usNthem
1 year ago

usNthem: “What the hell is it going to take to bring the insane clowns down?”

We all know the answer to that question, and we all also know that speaking or writing the answer will:

A) Secure a writ from a federal judge for our IP addresses, and

B) Scare the W0rdPr3$$ cμcks into yanking Z’s W0rdPr3$$ license [similar to what they did to Heartiste].

Pozymandias
Reply to  Bourbon
1 year ago

Z’s site isn’t hosted at WordPress. He just uses the blog software which is open source so there’s no license they can pull. Heartiste’s site was hosted by WP and so it was trivial for them to shut him down.

Stranger in a Strange Land
Stranger in a Strange Land
Reply to  usNthem
1 year ago

Q. – What the hell is going to take to bring insane clowns down?
A. – It appears it may take an insane clown at the other end of the political spectrum.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Stranger in a Strange Land
1 year ago

An army of Breviks and Kaczynskis.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  usNthem
1 year ago

The only thing that will take the Insane Clowns down several pegs is their own madness. Their irrationality, manifested in their policies and general behavior, may cause society to collapse, which will afford opportunities for the sane to enact vengeance on the pit fiends. But until that day, nothing will happen. Norm Griller will continue with his briskets, bourbon and negrovision as everything goes up in smoke and ash around him.

Chimeral
Chimeral
Reply to  usNthem
1 year ago

“It’s getting harder in this day and age to get worked up over these mass killings.” Part of it may be simple fatigue, like mixed race commercials. OTOH, in a country of half a billion, all counted, many can grasp that what is ‘reported’ has a blatant agenda. Just like our first homosexual president would often mutter, along the lines that ‘no one could disagree with common sense gun control’… persons that have yet to experience a lobotomy (real or virtual) know such muttering had one purpose: strip them of their right to self defense via their 2nd Amendment rights.… Read more »

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Chimeral
1 year ago

Well, one guy with a big platform seems to have been noticing – and questioning – this lack of curiosity, or outright falsification of statistics about black on white crime.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/elon-musk-why-does-media-misrepresent-interracial-crime-stats-such-extreme-degree

Chimeral
Chimeral
Reply to  JerseyJeffersonian
1 year ago

JerJeff, that’s a pretty recent article – my comment stretches back. Way back. I had seen the Musk article you linked – still hedging on the S. African ‘billionaire’ – in terms of what, or whom he is, exactly.

fakeemail
fakeemail
Reply to  usNthem
1 year ago

Terror is “part and parcel of living in a big city.” That how it’s always been! (So I’ve been told).

Maniac
Maniac
1 year ago

Funny how the perpetrator went from being “LatinX” to a Yakub creation when the smoke cleared.

Alzaebo
1 year ago

2 takes: As to the migrants, the Cartels are another form of NGOs, and the cartel terror spree is about to be unleashed. Summer of Love ll in time for the election. ****** As to the media, newspapers were a blue-collar industry; not the words, but the medium of printing (and broadcasting) itself. Newspapers were factory assembly lines. A bunch of shaggy guys showed up at midnight or swing shift to get those presses rolling; I remember seeing them all chatting, yelling, and joshing over loud machinery as they lined up to get those sheets stacked into the bales our… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

How could they possibly not notice that as the press consolidated around being ever more progressive, the readership began falling?

Perhaps I’m totally out of touch, but I believe if there were good newspapers, people would read them. There is not a single American paper or mainstream website that isn’t progressive. Even the “conservative” rags are as progressive as CNN on social issues.

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

Tars Tarkas: “There is not a single American paper or mainstream website…”

That right there is the problem.

We have no Amurrikkkun press [newspaper, ta1mudvision, scr0tial media, etc].

We have a foreign media [which hates us and wants us dead].

Alzaebo
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

You didn’t need blue collars slamming molten lead into rotating high-speed presses or driving through thick fog at 4 a.m.to get the word out. Or focused on the paper color of the background set and the film lighting and if the sticky camera gearing were lubricated. As the tech moved to personal computers and internet, you could hire liberal white chicks from upper-middle class colleges to sub as interns, for free. Your unmarried niece could get a “job”; she wouldn’t make any money or have kids, but her foot would be on the ladder. As the tech changed, the incentives… Read more »

Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

Sorry, addendum; I’m saying there is no “floor” of reality on narrative creation now.

If it were blue-collars in the physical production, something outrageous means the inserts would be trashed, the broadcast electronics would futz; union joes had their own ways of striking back at a narrative. Wooden shoes in the gears, so to speak.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
1 year ago

The regime is moving rapidly to only allowing uniformity of opinion. Even the shows of the past that allowed debate, such as CNN’s Crossfire or the McLaughlin Group, with the exception of Pat Buchanan, and maybe a couple of others, it was generally liberals vs. Neocons.

As far as I know, those kinds of debate shows have disappeared now. I realize Bill Maher has various guests, but they’re generally not the type to veer off the narrative. Even the upcoming Democrat challengers to Biden won’t be allowed to debate. The vise of free speech suppression is tightening.

SidVic
SidVic
1 year ago

I don’t necessarily disagree that many of the lies are a product of the warped culture from which they originate. However, they have become so egregious that I’m becoming increasingly convinced that many originate from an organized cabal of intelligence and organized crime operatives. In particular the operations in Ukraine cannot be blamed upon biases in outlook. We were directly lied directly into our faces.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

I’m curious what happens as the Boomers and GenXers retire from the media. Sure, they’re extremely Left, but my suspicion (indeed, I know because I knew some DC media people long ago some of whom are likely higher up these days) is that some of them aren’t quite true believers. They viewed the narrative as a way to get the country to a better place, but they understood that the narrative was a tool, not reality. They knew blacks were dangerous. They figured that if they could get the country to believe the narrative that there’d be less racism and… Read more »

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

Yes. The new judiciary they have cultivated and continue to make even worse, is going to be when the regime is no longer molding opinion, but where they will be jailing you for thought crime, hate speech and for simply being white.

Most have no idea what the new judiciary is going to do. Visit Columbia or the Ivy Leage law department web sites. It is a rude awakening we are going to be getting very soon.

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

Z: “The FBI man who gave the Post this whopper knows they are willing to believe it”

Muh gut instinct is that the causality flows in the opposite direction: The Post gave the whopper to the FBI [which ran with it].

The government is downstream from the media.

The media is upstream from the government.

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
1 year ago

So I think the meta Narrative here is more important than the micro narrative. The micro narrative is about who, what, where, when etc. The daily march of disaster in AINO is mind-numbing, so nobody can really absorb the micro narrative. I mean, I’m having trouble keeping track of all the mass murders. The meta Narrative – why? and who benefits? – is way more interesting. Obviously this “country” is having a nervous breakdown. Why? It’s pretty clear that drugs, Rx and illegal, are involved in nearly all these disasters. But when the Rx industry is the biggest advertiser on… Read more »

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Captain Willard
1 year ago

Captain Willard: “Why? It’s pretty clear that drugs, Rx and illegal, are involved in nearly all these disasters.”

I would focus muh attention on the GENETICS.

With the recent mass killings, we are witnessing:

The true biological nature of the Meso-American aboriginal,

The true biological nature of the West African kneegr0w,

The true biological nature of the Unitardian/Quaker lunatic***,

The true biological nature of the j00.

They’re all b100dthirsty s@tanic mμrderers.

==========

***1 in 4 Canadians Agree With Euthanizing the Poor – Among those 18-34, 40% support death for the poor.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4151580/posts

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Bourbon
1 year ago

I share the direction of your thinking and I agree that all these groups have scored a high body count, but:

The first two groups are savages, where the second is much worse than the first.

The last group is acting on a strategy for a smaller group to dominate a much larger group.

The third group seems to be true believers of utopian narratives, like those in a UFO cult whose members can withstand any amount of disconfirming evidence.

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

LineInTheSand: “The first two groups are savages, where the second is much worse than the first.” ACKSHUALLY, the very worst gμn violence in the entire world is Meso-American, from El-Salvador/Honduras down into Colombia/Venezuela & Brazil: https://tinyurl.com/ypz6hp3c It’s far worse than Africa. Apparently those extra five or six IQ points which the Meso-Americans possess [over & above the African IQ] allow the Meso-Americans to aim the weapons and fire them vastly moar successfully. Whereas muh guess would be that the overwhelming majority of all bullets fired by Africans eventually fall back down to earth without ever having hit anything other than… Read more »

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  Bourbon
1 year ago

90 IQ seems to be the sweet spot for organized violence. It’s what they like for the police and military, and lots of the mestizo shooting is organized gangs trying to secure their drug trade. The IQ of 90 is too low to have any comprehension of ethics or capacity for individual thoughts, but also high enough to follow orders like a good dog and actually practice at the shooting range.

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Bourbon
1 year ago

Ploppy: “The IQ of 90 is too low to have any comprehension of ethics or capacity for individual thoughts…” That sentence fragment is more than enough to get you banned [for life] from about, gosh, maybe 95% to 99% of all USA/Anglosphere websites in 2023. I wonder how long sites such as Z’s will be allowed to continue poasting Dissident-Speak of that magnitude? ===== While we’re on the topic, the One-Two punch of “Griggs versus Duke Power” [ruling: thou shalt not discriminate against low IQ kneegr0ids] together with “Jordan versus New London” [ruling: thou mayest/must discriminate against high IQ White… Read more »

Ronehjr
Ronehjr
1 year ago

Apparently there is nobody in charge at the major news outlets that approves or disapproves of the produced content. The woke mobs are simply running wild without any oversight

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Ronehjr
1 year ago

Yes, I suspect that there are some Boomers and GenXers in the media who understand that the narrative isn’t reality, but I think that more and more, they are unable to stop the most blatant lying because true-believer diversity commissars are watching them and making sure that they don’t contradict the narrative.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

You have to remember that there’s a selection process. First, you select for people who want to be in the media in the first place. That eliminates any conservative leaning person in the first place. It also attracts people who love words over reality. Second, the big media outlets select by college and background, so wealthy kids who went to top schools and thus have been marinated in the narrative their entire lives and have never had to live around diversity. Third, only the true believers move up the ranks. The higher you go, the crazier they get on average.… Read more »

Stephanie
Stephanie
1 year ago

The Christian school mass murderer looked to be dressed up as a Trump supporter. This Texas mall shooter was supposedly wearing a right wing patch.

Hmm…

mmack
mmack
1 year ago

“Over the weekend a migrant drove into a group of migrants, killing eight and wounding ten.” One of the victims said they were sitting on the curb near a bus stop when a gray colored Range Rover slammed into the group. Nice to see migrants are moving up from Chevrolets and Fords. America Del Norte, land of opportunity, eh? “Forty years ago, media bias was simply the result of media culture. What had been a working-class profession came to be dominated by credentialed professionals from the same upper-middle-class backgrounds.” Journalism was better when reporters chain smoked and drank themselves to… Read more »

Stephanie
Stephanie
Reply to  mmack
1 year ago

Where did he get that Range Rover I wonder, if he’s supposedly a poor immigrant himself. They aren’t cheap. And it looked like the news blurred out his chest tattoos.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Stephanie
1 year ago

Stephanie:

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Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

Is that the playboy bunny on his groin? That’s a…uh…bold fashion statement.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Ploppy
1 year ago

Messkin mass murderers have long been appreciated for their aesthetic contributions to society.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Stephanie
1 year ago

Late-model grey Tange Rover you say?

I’m sure that the Los Zetas, Sinaloa, or New Jalisco cartels had nothing to do with that.

Nope, nada.

Maus
Maus
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 year ago

Five years ago, all the shot callers of Northern Structure in California favored black Cadillac Escalades. So, I guess, a Range Rover isn’t too much of a stretch. Ironically, that brand is definitely a SWPL sort of thing.

Nick Nolte's Mugshot
Nick Nolte's Mugshot
Reply to  mmack
1 year ago

Illiterate illegal aliens driving Range Rovers while I am driving a 27 year old Nissan Pathfinder with a cracked windshield and struggling to make ends meet. USA! USA!

mcleod
mcleod
1 year ago

Did the average Soviet citizen read and believe Pravda, or was it treated as a joke like Post/Times/CBS/ NBC/ABC/NBC is today?

Notice I didn’t include MSNBC because I refuse to believe even the wokest of woke believes them. I don’t care if it’s not reality, what’s left of my faith in humanity could take the blow.

mmack
mmack
Reply to  mcleod
1 year ago

The standard joke on the street went something like this:

“Back then there was a standard joke about Izvestia, whose title literally means “news,” and Pravda, then the Communist party newspaper, whose title literally means “truth.” The joke went like this: “In ‘News’ there is no truth, and in ‘Truth’ there is no news.””

Marko
Marko
Reply to  mcleod
1 year ago

I can give anecdotal evidence for China. Their Pravda is called the Renmin Ribao or “People’s Daily News”. It was sold everywhere, along with other regime organs. I saw people buying it. Being a free-speech-having American, I would sometimes ask my friends, “Do you believe this crap?”. The answer was almost always no, and they were well-aware that the media lied to them and/or supported the CCP. But the CCP was all-powerful, so of course the media was biased! What about you, American, do you really think your media is telling the truth? 哈哈 ! Naïve white person!

Epaminondas
Member
1 year ago

“Our ruling class is as nuts as they appear to be, maybe even worse.”

And how do you break this reality to your liberal neighbor who feeds on ruling class gruel daily? My strategy is to bait them on Ukraine and tell them to ignore my opinion, keep on watching their usual sources, then keep an eye on unfolding events this summer while comparing those events to what they have been told in the past. Russian armies on the move will be a bucket of cold water in the faces of these gullible fools.

Götterdamn-it-all
Götterdamn-it-all
Reply to  Epaminondas
1 year ago

Good idea. And we can keep the exchange friendly while “their faces are sicklied o’er with the pale cast of thought.”

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Epaminondas
1 year ago

> And how do you break this reality to your liberal neighbor who feeds on ruling class gruel daily?

Option 1: Change the ruling class gruel and he will follow.
Option 2: Share with him a non-political hobby that shifts his interests.to something real. Media is just entertainment, so change the entertainment.

Outdoorspro
Outdoorspro
Reply to  Epaminondas
1 year ago

“keep on watching their usual sources, then keep an eye on unfolding events this summer while comparing those events to what they have been told in the past.”

There is one issue with your approach. You seem to be assuming they’ll remember from day to day what they were told yesterday. The ultimate accomplishment of the 24-hour news channels, as well as social media, is the strip away any and all awareness of what was said or done in the past, including the previous day.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Outdoorspro
1 year ago

That works for mundane issues like daily crime reports, monetary discussions and various social justice crap they push. But it will be hard to walk back their lies about the biggest war since WWII. Cognitive dissonance will overwhelm them…especially with a little help from our side.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Epaminondas
1 year ago

There was a Euro-normie I was conversing with over the Internets and he forgave a lot of GAE behavior with the idea that they were “funny” insane, not “scary” insane. I noted that GAE paid to develop the WuFlu and then unleashed a cure worse than the disease when it leaked out and that’s “scary” insane” not “funny” insane. No comeback to that one.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
1 year ago

Not scary insane, eh? I suggest he take that up with the citizens of Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Vietnam.

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  Epaminondas
1 year ago

Liberal neighbors aren’t for talking. Liberal neighbors are for field dressing to add much needed protein to your supply of rice and beans once the bombs drop.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Ploppy
1 year ago

Not so sure about that. I’ve been told their meat is both mushy and gamey in extremis.

Dinodoxy
Dinodoxy
1 year ago

One side, the conservatives, complained about the media bias against them. The other side, the liberals, dismissed the claim as something like a conspiracy theory. For its part, the media spent time trying to prove they were not biased at all. …[snip]… The liberals were right in that it was not some sort of conspiracy to silence conservatives. The media simply reflected the opinions of the people who were in the media and politics. The great lie in that explanation was the presumption that journalists just do whatever they want with absolutely no input or direction from the managers of… Read more »

Tarl Cabot
Tarl Cabot
Reply to  Dinodoxy
1 year ago

The media leaned left before it became a credentialed profession. In a free market, the media would have counter programmed each other. CBS and the New York Times would have been conservative to exploit that market share, at the expense of a liberal NBC and Washington Post. That obviously didn’t happen, which implies editorial coordination if not compulsion.

Gee, I wonder what the common denominator was?

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
1 year ago

A few years ago the left shifted from being willing to debate as long as the terms of the debate skewed in their favor, to the modern approach where debate is not permissable, and all work should be focused in simply silencing their enemies. Then they will unironically post the Popper meme that states intolerance can not be tolerated, unaware he meant by the intolerant those who were not willing to have open debate. The Fox News shakeup is going to be interesting as they become more and more grossly left-wing with just slightly more jingoism. Once the right realizes… Read more »