Anemoia And Hauntology

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One of the oddities of the Obama administration was that it seemed as if they were working from a list of wrongs they were determined to right. Those wrongs were what the Left counted as their failures over the decades. A part of Obama being viewed as Black Jesus was his ability to heal the past. This was necessary as those old harms were what tied us to the present. It was only by righting those past wrongs that we could break free and enter the glorious future.

The most obvious example was the health care stuff. This proved to be a disaster for the Clinton administration, but that is not how the Left saw it. They viewed it as a betrayal and a defeat that had to be addressed. This is why the eventual policy was nothing like they promised or anything anyone would call reform. That was never the point of the exercise. The point was to have a redo of that old defeat and this time the good guys would win and erase that loss from memory.

This active revisionism turned up in all sorts of places. They had Hillary Clinton pose with Sergey Lavrov holding a red button. This was part of the Russian reset initiative designed to restart relations with Russia. In reality it was about soothing the wounds from the Reagan years when the Left lost the Cold War debate. The same vibe permeated their Iran initiative. Like the Russian reset, the Iran reproachment had no utility in the present. It was all about the past.

This backward-looking politics is plain now. The retreat into the past has jumped from the establishment Left to the establishment Right. This is not surprising, given the conservative habit of following the Left from one fad to the next. Here you have a collection of flunkies from Conservative Inc. doing cosplay. Instead of dressing up as characters from Japanese cartoons, they are pretending to be their favorite characters from the conservative movement.

Someone on Twitter referred to these people as Reagan Van Winkles. They went to sleep in the 1980’s and just awoke in the present, unaware of all that has happened over the last forty years. It is a clever line and there is certainly some truth to it, but these people are aware of the present. What they want is to go back to sleep and wake up in the 1980’s, as if the present is a terrible nightmare. They are live action role playing in order to take a timeout from the present.

Note the flavorless language. Sixty years ago, when the founders of the Buckley cult were getting started, they used language designed to inflame the passions of the great white middle-class, which they sensed was quietly seething at the cultural changes that had been unleashed by the Left. The language in that statement is so devoid of human passion that is could have been written by software. The point is not to excite the reader, but to put him asleep so he can dream of better times.

What makes this stuff weirder is that most of the people doing it are not old people trying to relive their youth. Nostalgia is understandable for old people, especially those nearing the end of their career. These people are experiencing anemoia, a nostalgic sense of longing for a past they have never lived. None of the “signatories” of that goofy list of principles were alive when Buckley started his cult. Many of them were barely aware of the world during the Reagan years.

On the other side of the old political consensus is hauntolgy, a sense that unfinished business from the past is haunting the present. Like Banquo’s ghost, the old failures in the old causes torment the neoliberal. It is not as if they learned from the old failures, but that they must find some way to make it right. The backwardness of left-wing politics is akin to the people in a horror movie putting an ancient cemetery back in its original state so the dead can finally rest.

In fairness, it is not just conventional politics that is backward looking. Most of the race realists want to go back to the past. They imagine a world similar to the 1950’s, except everyone knows the failures of trying to integrate blacks and whites. The harder core imagine they can go back to the interwar years and be their favorite uncle. Young Nick Fuentes is one click away from wearing a George Lincoln Rockwell costume while locking arms with the hip-hop community.

What all of this points to is the sense of dread than hangs over the American empire as it staggers through its end phase. Everything that it is, everything that defines the American identity is in the past. The only conception of the future is one that is somehow a repeat of the past, real, or imaginary. For a culture that has no future, the present represents the terrifying final step into the abyss, so the only option is to turn to the past and find comfort in reliving it.

Perhaps this weird backwardness is an essential step, and it will burn itself out as the present struggles become too much to ignore. On the other hand, maybe this is just the price of victory in the Cold War. The losers had to get on with the business of creating a new future, while the winners wanted to savor the victory. Our backward politics is the result of a victory party gone on for too long. Regardless, what comes next is not the past, but the future, and it will not include any of these people.


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Templar
Templar
9 months ago

Apologies if someone has already made this point, but maybe being fixated on “the future,” having a “vision of the future,” etc, etc, is part of the problem. Was anyone really concerned with “the future” as a political end prior to the French Revolution?

Panzernutter
Panzernutter
10 months ago

Nostalgia is a billion dollar industry yearly. I’m aware of it and engage in it daily mentally and monetarily with and without knowing I’m participating in it. My wife wants to go to the island of Manhattan this year, I haven’t been back in 22 years after living there for the fist couple of decades of my life .People like to go see the house they lived in, the school they dropped out of, the restaurants they loved. I haven’t made up my mind yet, I’m thinking it would be like going to a wake, rather unsettling and sad. Just… Read more »

cg2
cg2
Reply to  Panzernutter
10 months ago

Kinda like getting on facebook and finding out all your old girlfriends are fat old ladies. Theres no going back.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Panzernutter
10 months ago

Yup.

Tons of money in things like classic cars, baseball cards, and vinyl records.

Ironically, I currently have a lady friend that wants to visit Manhattan from overseas.

Somehow I don’t have the heart to tell her that it ain’t like TV and that blowing her savings on this trip is a terrible idea.

KingKong
KingKong
10 months ago

“For a culture that has no future, the present represents the terrifying final step into the abyss, so the only option is to turn to the past and find comfort in reliving it.” This is why I’m convinced Apple’s AR set will be a smash hit. Too many people unable to deal with the brutality of reality as Western Civilization collapses. People will push further into escapism, into safety in an imaginary world, whether provided by Apple or some demagogue promising a better future in the afterlife. It’s truly beautiful to watch. To see reality and Nature finally push through… Read more »

KingKong
KingKong
10 months ago

“This is not surprising, given the conservative habit of following the Left from one fad to the next.”

There’s going to come a time when the Left comes mass suicide – in fact, it’s already in progress with the climate change hysteria, push for childlessness and euthanasia.

The Right, always worried they’re not accepted by the cool kids, will follow pursuit.

* Population reduction
* “You will own nothing and you will be happy”

Watch the Right stab each other in the back to promote these points.

When it happens, I can’t say anything of value will be the lost.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  KingKong
10 months ago

“Democrats are the real science deniers…” Yeah, that’s coming, too.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  KingKong
10 months ago

Trouble is, they want to take all of us dissidents with them.

Mr. Burns
Mr. Burns
10 months ago

Any time I see an online rant against those evil commies, I know the poster is over 40 years old. No one under that age gives a rat’s ass about the communist Boogeyman.

sneakn
sneakn
Reply to  Mr. Burns
10 months ago

no one under 20 gives a rat’s ass about the fascist boogeyman. it’s going to be a strange and tumultuous near future.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  sneakn
10 months ago

I wish that was true. Far as I can tell, the younger folks have redefined (or had redefined for them) fascism as anyone who isn’t onboard with critical race theory or trannyism. And they care about that kind of “fascism” very much.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Mr. Burns
10 months ago

I’ll add that if someone younger than a Boomer is blaming communism, cultural marxism, or bioleninism, it is likely that they are trying to conceal the racial aspects of our predicament.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  LineInTheSand
10 months ago

LITS-

I’ve always thought race is a key component of bioleninism as it is constituted in the West.

Have I missed something in Spandrell’s essays on this topic?

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Mr. Burns
10 months ago

Well, that’s amnesia for you, forgetting the lessons of what a drag autocratic societies invariably are. A healthy society is based on what is essential, and not chasing one idiot latest thang after another, none of which have anything to do with those beliefs or practices essential to a life lived well. Too bad about those ahistorical morons, but those who forget the lessons of history and the verities of human nature that underlie them are doomed to revisit them. Maybe your apparent scorn for those who try to be situationally aware about those pitfalls is somewhat misplaced.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Mr. Burns
10 months ago

My wife has become right-curious since the covid nonsense. I don’t talk about politics unless I’m drunk and she pesters me about it. I’m not sure what normie conservative/libertarian types talk about anymore—what could they possibly have to say?—but they must still mention Marx a lot, because she recently asked me what to read to learn about his philosophy. I dug out the ol’ Grundrisse and said something like, “This is it. You’ve never heard a single thing that’s in here. Nobody’s a Marxist.” If she reads it she’ll believe me, but it’s very long and boring, and the guys… Read more »

Rasqball
Rasqball
Reply to  Hemid
10 months ago

“I don’t talk about politics unless I’m drunk and she pesters me about it.”
Bravo, monsieur!
Just play it cool: however intelligent she may be, it’s all “fashion” for XX.

vinnyvette
vinnyvette
Reply to  Mr. Burns
10 months ago

Because they “are” the commies!

Krustykurmudgeon
Krustykurmudgeon
10 months ago

As someone who is politically bipolar i’ve always felt that the democratic party is being discriminated against.

The obstacles that democrats have to control the Senate state legislatures the supreme court etc when compared to republicans is never mentioned.

So there’s sort of a view I’ve had that you can gerrymander us out of office or take our court seats away but eventually we’ll be back and stronger than ever.

Davidcito
Davidcito
Reply to  Krustykurmudgeon
10 months ago

There is no “you” or “us.” Both parties represent different forms of hell for our future. The only real solution is whatever causes secession faster.

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
10 months ago

Actually, sometimes you can go backwards. The reason everyone considers the 50’s the “golden age of America,” is because there was peace and tranquility by and large, and economic prosperity. Before all this forced integration crap, whites lived in suburbia and rural areas mostly free of interaction with blacks, who were limited to their own neighborhoods “ghetto’s. A man didn’t go to work and have to deal with blacks, he didn’t come home and have a drink sitting on his front porch and watch blacks let their property turn to ruble, or cars pulling up every ten minutes to score… Read more »

Disruptor
Disruptor
Reply to  Vinnyvette
10 months ago

Plus one, However…
Who says that we can’t have hoola hoops, and 57 Chevys?

Cuba has 57 Chevys. Why can’t we? Sure we could.

The real question is “Who says?”

Who is Mayorkas to flood our country; who ‘s Noodleman to confiscate our wealth into arms for Zelensky? Or for that mid east terrorist hive?

Well it’s not who, but what. They are Jews.

When people do not listen to them, ignore their nonsense,
then Life Rebounds.

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  Disruptor
10 months ago

As a hot rodder and lover of classic cars, I agree. A ‘57 Chevy in every driveway, and a hoola hoop for every kid, would be a great campaign slogan!

That’s right, why should the third worlder’s have all the cool shit! Lmao

RedBeard
RedBeard
Reply to  Vinnyvette
10 months ago

I thought every white Boomer already had a restored classic car.

RasQball
RasQball
Reply to  RedBeard
10 months ago

Xers, at least, are keeping 70’s, 80’s 90’s “pre digital” polluters on the road.

Me, a ’93 W140…ayuh…took a 90 y.o. girlfriend (neighbor) to see an exraordinary Jazz Trio in Stamford, NY just yesterday; over the hills south of Central New York, and down into the head of the Delaware Valley.

(Old girl was like “I KNEW you were a classy cat, but I didn’t know just HOW classy…” ; -)

krustykurmudgeon
krustykurmudgeon
Reply to  Vinnyvette
10 months ago

I have anemoia for the 70s. Better music and movies than the 50s. At the same time there was a much more libertine attitude as political correctness hadn’t taken hold.

For those that were alive then, how accurate were movies like “Detroit Rock City” or “dazed and confused”?

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  krustykurmudgeon
10 months ago

As a kid of the 70’s I agree to a point. Without the culture of the 50’s, we don’t get to the cool shit of the 70’s or even my favorite era the 80’s. Give me some Van Halen, a cool 70’s Muscle car, and Fast Times at Ridgemont high, or Back to the future.

Like you I was a teenager in the 80’s, and it was a very whimsical, up beat, happy time for all.

Nihilism and pessimism were virtually non existent. Look at us now.

rashomoan
rashomoan
10 months ago

I prefer Hiraeth to the neologism anemoia. Per Feinfach.com, “It’s often described as nostalgia or a deep longing for a place or time that may never have existed, or that may have existed only in one’s memories or imagination. It brings together the feelings of homesickness, nostalgia and longing. Hiraeth is a pull on the heart that conveys a distinct feeling of missing something irretrievably lost. The word has a complex and nuanced meaning and is an important part of Welsh culture and identity.” Used in English untranslated.

Intelligent Dasein
Intelligent Dasein
Member
Reply to  rashomoan
10 months ago

It’s a very good word, hiraeth.

It’s kind of like the definition of the Holy Roman Empire as the kingdom that never was but always is. It is an expression of the ideal that reigns eternally in the heart; and even though it won’t be fully realized this side of Heaven, it ever there to lead and guide us.

Oswald Spengler
Oswald Spengler
10 months ago

The Right, when out of power, always imagines it’s 1980. The second coming of Ronald Reagan is ready to ride in on a white horse to save America. The Right,when in power, always imagines it’s 1984. It’s Morning in America, Part II, you’ve never had it so good. The Left, when in power, always imagines it’s 1965. The Great Society of liberal hopes and dreams is just about to be realized. The Left, when out of power, always imagines it’s 1968. The long promised Revolution is at hand when the people will rise up righteous fury to stick it to… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Oswald Spengler
10 months ago

And for the GAE, it’s always 1938

Reziac
Reziac
10 months ago
Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Reziac
10 months ago

Anemoia: “Nostalgia for a time or a place one has never known.”

Is there anyone here who wishes to argue [or declare] that our memories of that time and place [the Reagan Administration of 1981-1989] are FALSE?!?!?

https://tinyurl.com/4fzpucms

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
10 months ago

If, back in the late 1960s, you had wanted to get an idea of the shape of the future (which is not the same thing as predicting the future, nobody can do that), and in doing so you had looked at the younger generations at that time and extrapolated their “ethos” out fifty or sixty years into the future, you probably wouldn’t have done so poorly at picturing the present day, relative to other would be future seers anyway. So when I think about the future, I disregard Boomers and Xers and look at Gen Z, Millennials, the firehose of… Read more »

Oswald Spengler
Oswald Spengler
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
10 months ago

“Man, it is ugly. Never mind all the hifalutin ideals. We will be fortunate just to have basic services.”

Indoor plumbing and consistently reliable electrical power will be luxury items in large parts of North America by 2050.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Oswald Spengler
10 months ago

Could we push that back to 2070? I’m liable to still be around in 2050.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
10 months ago

Ostei: Same (although I plan to check out before I lose my marbles or ability to wipe my own backside). Plan on providing basic services (water, toilets, electricity) for yourself. We’ve been looking into getting a second 1000 gallon propane tank (to run the Generac to run well pump, etc.) and local hardware store has two in the yard but they’re not for sale (repos being held for owner). Online and out of state new ones are $4200 and up. Looking into some basic solar panels (have a few foldable ones and a few solar ‘generators’) but electricity and wiring… Read more »

Pozymandias
Reply to  Oswald Spengler
10 months ago

Small scale production of everything from electric power to complex machinery is more possible today than ever with things like networked 3D printers. There’s even a hobbyist IC fabrication movement of people making their own chips, though I’m sure nothing like the mainstream CPUs. This kind of thing would be a good basis for local and regional re-industrialization and ultimately for re-localizing political and economic power as the federal authority continues to stagger under the weight of its diversity ideology and untenable overseas entanglements. For that reason I would expect the Left to ultimately try (but fail) to prevent people… Read more »

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
10 months ago

Con Inc was dead the moment Trump came down the escalator at Trump Towers.

RasQball
RasQball
Reply to  Vinnyvette
10 months ago

It took a few months (evisceration of Bush, Romney, et.al in the primaries, then – his beatdown on Hillary – in her presence! – at the 2016 Al Smith dinner) but I got with the idea that “Cheeto Hilter IS the great disrupter!)

https://youtu.be/b9n7g8rTiaY

usNthem
usNthem
10 months ago

I read through that Freedom Conservatism: A Statement of Principles. A lot of it sounds good – on paper. But it’s the usual same old, same old “we have to return to our founding ethos” – whatever. In bullet point 3, the boys and girls promise to uphold the rule of law, freedom of contract and freedom of association. Then in number 8, they ADAMANTLY oppose racial discrimination in all its forms, either against or for any person or group of people. So how can one exercise their freedom of association it they can’t discriminate against whomever they choose for… Read more »

dad29
Reply to  usNthem
10 months ago

You see more than a few Libertarian names in that group. Notice that they very carefully tiptoe around the matter of morality? They make oblique references to ‘local control’ and ‘religious freedom,’ but never get around to stating–outright–that screwing little kids is BAD and which object goes into what bodily orifice. They avoid the abortion question, yet refer to the Declaration which clearly states that there is a God. That God is the one the Founders knew about; even Franklin, the rounder of the bunch, acknowledged that. The discontent in this country has a great deal to do with that… Read more »

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  dad29
10 months ago

You see a bunch of “poem-on-the-statue” names on that list, and #6 “Americans by choice. Immigration is a principal driver of American prosperity and achievement” is demonstrably untrue. Immigrants use public assistance at double the rate of natives and it’s probably higher than that when you consider how many access aid through their US born offspring who are counted as citizens. Latin American and Caribbean immigration is particularly costly.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  RoBG
10 months ago

Not only that, but all immigration is not equal. Hutus, Squatemalans and Hmong ain’t quite the same as Micks, Wops and Pollacks.

Oswald Spengler
Oswald Spengler
Reply to  usNthem
10 months ago

The Freedom Conservatism statement would be a perfectly sound platform for the GOP to run candidates on — if this was the year 1984.

Pip McGuigin
Member
Reply to  usNthem
10 months ago

No one ever poses this possibility. The negro makes up 16% of our population. The Hispanic somewhere in the vicinity of 30%. It has been my experience that the two do NOT relish the other. If the Hispanic prevail, the Negro will have to stop blaming Whitey for all his self-imposed problems and start badmouthing the Hispanics. Neither group has the IQ it takes overall to push this country forward.

B125
B125
Reply to  Pip McGuigin
10 months ago

They’ll blame whoever they’re told to blame. If America was completely run by Hispanics, the blacks would quickly become mixed Zambos and be confined to the favelas. Hispanics will f*ck anything.

They would also cease being a major problem as they would no longer be weaponized a certain way, if Hispanics owned the media.

miforest
miforest
10 months ago

A little PT, but good one behind the green d oor, clearly the GOP is dead. the big SCREAMING by it’s absence issue is the COVID debacle . a third of small businesses in this country were destroyed , millions of lives ruined . and neither party will talk about it at all. RFK is and is being given the big ignore by many voters. this country deserves a second biden term, followed by a kamala term.

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
10 months ago

To this day old East Germans still cling to the “good old days” under the DDR. Back then they were paid for digging a hole and filling it in again.

Oddly, they have forgotten that their neighbors were often dragged away in the middle of the night for even whispering anything negative about the regime they had to live under.

And if asked about it now, they will argue the Stasi was just doing their job and anyone who was hauled away probably deserved what they got.

John Q. Publicke
John Q. Publicke
10 months ago

Well, to be honest I would prefer to go back to the 80s. I had all my hair and I was in kick,ass shape! 😅

pyrrhus
Reply to  John Q. Publicke
10 months ago

But even better would be going back to the ’70s, when the Feds seldom interfered in our lives, and we were really young….

Jim in Alaska
Member
Reply to  John Q. Publicke
10 months ago

I’d say that about the sixties.

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10 months ago

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Ostei Kozelskii
Member
10 months ago

Card-carrying anemoiac here. I wish I could go back to 1962, a year I never experienced.

pyrrhus
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
10 months ago

Well, when it comes to that, I used to take informal polls in restaurants, and a large majority of the people who responded wanted to return to the ’50s and ’60s…

RealityRules
RealityRules
10 months ago

Yeah. I think the Left is very frustrated by the fact that every project they undertook failed. They think they failed because of conservatives and white men. So, that is why they are bent on getting rid of white men. Once we are gone, all obstacles to ending poverty, racism, saving earth, and singing kumbaya on the deck of the starship Enterprise will be gone. The right is just hopeless. I can empathize. I’ve been there. Even recently I was thinking that if only the principles of liberty could be explained to enough people the nation of ideas would triumph.… Read more »

Oswald Spengler
Oswald Spengler
Reply to  RealityRules
10 months ago

Swear allegiance to the flag
Whatever flag they offer
Never hint at what you really feel
Teach the children quietly
For some day sons and daughters
Will all rise up and fight while we stood still

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Oswald Spengler
10 months ago

“Can you hear me?”

Gringo
Gringo
Reply to  Oswald Spengler
10 months ago

Boomercon-ism in a nutshell.

Mike
Mike
10 months ago

The thing that struck me first about this piece is that so much of our people just do nothing productive at all. This is on both sides, not just the progressives. The con-inc people are the same as their supposed enemies, they grift and con their way into money without any accomplishments or contributing anything to society as a whole. Their output is useless meaningless words that will never change anything. We used to be a nation whose people were primarily making things, designing things or facilitating the movement of things to benefit everyone. Now there are thousands on both… Read more »

The Infant Phenomenon
The Infant Phenomenon
Reply to  Mike
10 months ago

“Now there are thousands on both sides whose production is words.” And they are not even half-assed good at it. Shakespeare pointed out that “Words without thought ne’er to Heaven go.” But that’s all we get: words without thought. I think of the ubiquity of “possible.” What the eff, for example, is “a possible tornado” or “a possible broken arm” or “a possible earthquake” etc, etc, etc, ad nauseam? Are there impossible tornadoes or impossible broken arms? And if so, how are they different from possible phenomena? And “possible” is only one of myriad such thoughtless, witless, brainless locutions, apparently… Read more »

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  The Infant Phenomenon
10 months ago

My sense is that precisely the same group of Sanhedrin write all of the words for both the ostensible “Left” and the ostensible “Right”. If the potato kneegrow, Joseph Biden, is reading speeches written by the likes of (((Merrick Garland))) and (((Jeffrey Zients))), whereas the ostensibly oppositional potato kneegrow, Kevin McCarthy, is reading speeches written by the likes of (((Frank Luntz))) and (((Robert Kagan))), then we don’t have a political dialogue in this country. Instead, we have a ceaseless droning buzzing humming background vibration of verisimilitudinous pseudo-political Good Think delirium. All hail The Signal!!! ================ Which then begs the question… Read more »

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  The Infant Phenomenon
10 months ago

I rather favor Yoda’s formulation:

“No! Try not! Do. Or do not. There is no try.”

Otherwise you end up like Alfred Prufrock. Dithering.

Anti-Gnostic
Anti-Gnostic
Reply to  Mike
10 months ago

I’ve noticed that as well. I call it “the Think-Tank Archipelago.” There seems to be endless cash lying around for people to donate or bequeath to all these “Institutes,” “Centers,” foundations, and university departments.

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Anti-Gnostic
10 months ago

Anti-Gnostic: “endless cash”

Infinite fiat shekels, courtesy of the Federal Reserve.

“Let me issue and control a nation’s money and I care not who writes the laws”

– Mayer Amschel Rothschild

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Bourbon
10 months ago

And the ultimate expression of that is Central Bank Digital Currency.

pyrrhus
Reply to  Mike
10 months ago

Really true…it’s amazing how many people I know who produce nothing at all of value..The handymen in our neighborhood are more productive than most of the people who hire them….

Oswald Spengler
Oswald Spengler
Reply to  Mike
10 months ago

“I’m trying to imagine a feral Kevin Williamson trying to survive after the apocalypse. ”

Kevin Williamson a.k.a. Fat Max, the man we called The Load Warrior.

Montefrío
Member
Reply to  Oswald Spengler
10 months ago

Thank you. That was a laugh-out-loud I badly needed.

Who Is John Filmer
Who Is John Filmer
10 months ago

Cultural exhaustion is racial exhaustion, and has much more to do with the the great war(s) in Europe than it does the end of the Cold War. Americans are simply falling back into a history which no one on the Continent (save the current globalist muppets in charge) ever pretended they escaped. That aisde, if politics is downstream from culture, it is no wonder that left and right are falling apart, to the point that the the left/right spectrum is now largely meaningless inside the larger category of race. Our Man in Tyneside, with whom Z should have had about… Read more »

John Q. Publicke
John Q. Publicke
Reply to  Who Is John Filmer
10 months ago

Morgoth is great – like George Galloway smoking a joint.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Who Is John Filmer
10 months ago

Yeah I’d say Morgoth is the second-best essayist behind Zeeman.

He’s a bit of a Debbie Downer though. Z takes the top spot because he suggests there’s a whiff of hope after the collapse. Morgoth is just collapse. Can’t blame him though, he’s from England. Americans have a natural positivity that Britons lack.

JG
JG
10 months ago

I think for me personally, 9/11 and the whole covid thing really brought home my inability to see what the future brings. Bottom line, knowing that 19 Saudis with boxcutters would kill thousands and cost us trillions with a 20 year war with no victory, followed up with a multi year shut down fuckery that lost us half our household income with no tangible proof really proves my inability to predict. I’ll channel my inner Rumsfeld and think about unknown unknowns, this is a totally different kettle. Lefties want to go back to the sixties, righties want to go back… Read more »

BigJimSportCamper
BigJimSportCamper
Reply to  JG
10 months ago

It wasn’t the Saudis, it was another desert tribe.

RasQball
RasQball
Reply to  BigJimSportCamper
10 months ago

yes…assisted and cajoled by?

Intelligent Dasein
Intelligent Dasein
Member
10 months ago

Let’s not just pick on the past; the present and the future are equally likely to serve as sources of unprofitable daydreams. The fundamental issue here is not that politics is lost in the past, it is that politics is lost. And it isn’t difficult to understand why. Daydreams are painless and cost nothing. They also provide a degree of latitude that no actual engagement with reality ever can. As long as you don’t propose to really do anything, you can imagine anything you want. But the instant you decide to set foot into the arena and act, you must… Read more »

cg2
cg2
Reply to  Intelligent Dasein
10 months ago

Well, one argument for tinvowoot is that it lends legitimacy to a corrupted system and prevents “normies” from seeing the truth.

cg2
cg2
Reply to  cg2
10 months ago

Then there’s the thought that things are going to have to get worse before anything can get better, so lets let it go and get it over with.

Wkathman
Wkathman
Reply to  Intelligent Dasein
10 months ago

What if ALL the political candidates, regardless of party, are essentially owned by the same elites who appear to be ushering us toward civilizational chaos? How can voting circumvent such a scenario?

I used to say: “It’s not the lesser of two evils; it’s the evil of two lessers.” But even that now seems false. In reality, it’s the evil of ONE lesser. The notion that common plebes like you and I have a genuine choice in the voting booth is part of the grand deception.

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Intelligent Dasein
10 months ago

I like the posture and energy that holds and animates your post. There is evidence to the contrary that it is incorrect. They abound so I won’t elaborate – well, okay, John Fetterman; Dan Crenshaw. In certain locales and at the state and local level however, I think you are correct. However, there is a shrinking time window where the most effective option is lawfare with a tactical and strategic intent that is focused on punishing any and all anti-white discrimination. The system is deeply corrupt, but anybody will show up if there is money to be gained no matter… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  RealityRules
10 months ago

Roberts was appointed chief justice by a Bush. What else does one need to know?

Mr. Burns
Mr. Burns
Reply to  Intelligent Dasein
10 months ago

“And since politics is war by other means”

That is a phrase that bears repeating.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Intelligent Dasein
10 months ago

Intelligent Dasein: I’m not aware of anyone here predicting dissidents ‘win’ with or without voting. The consensus seems to be that AINO is going off a cliff sometime in the future (1 year, 5 years, in our lifetime, take your pick) and there is f**k all the average individual can do about it. Voting within a corrupt and venal system gives legitimacy to said system and continues the pretense that genuine change is possible and that the average individual actually has a say in the future. Those who will be the future are those being born today. In AINO (and… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  3g4me
10 months ago

Yep. That’s about how I see it. Voting is, at best, a fool’s errand.

Peter Wood
Peter Wood
10 months ago

It is impossible for most whites to picture to themselves the future, because they are living their lives as if there isn’t one. The reasons for this are too numerous to detail in full. But we all sense it when we meet such types — there is a aura of finality in everything they do, very much like a death cult. For most of them, however, they are unaware of it — like Tom Sawyer’s crew of whitewashers, every day they blindly line up for a new destructive assignment in exchange for an apple.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
10 months ago

The political nostalgia for the 80s is weird. Dissidents in the 80s were constantly criticized and mocked for having political nostalgia for the 50s.

I don’t know about the 50s and 60s, but I lived through the 80s. There is nothing to be nostalgic about (politically), especially not race relations. It only looks less bad than today, but that really isn’t saying much.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
10 months ago

I generally agree with that, Tars. We do tend to look at the 80s through roseate glasses. However, I will say this for the 80s–the culture was nowhere near as odious and insipid as it is now. Rap was not the nation’s soundtrack; idiotic Superhero films were not the cinema du jour; television wasn’t a perpetual stream of filth; and we weren’t beaten over the head constantly with images of negroes. Culturally, America was far from ideal, but at least normal people could dabble in it without feeling unmitigated disgust and outrage. Now the only hope for sanity is to… Read more »

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
10 months ago

“There is nothing to be nostalgic about (politically), especially not race relations. It only looks less bad” The seeds of destruction were well planted and enthusiastically tended even then. At that time, the Left hadn’t quite figured out the winning formula. We were inundated with X are just like us with the Bill Cosby in his sweaters dishing out wisdom and virtue. Gibson and his more sensible partner Glover were bringing down Apartheid and the Brat Pack made us aware that our hard working parents were square and goofy. With greater exposure to the wonders of diversity and their inevitable… Read more »

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Penitent Man
10 months ago

Penitent Man: “the last gasp of decent America” I’ve poasted this before chez Z, but here it goes again: I have a very strong clear memory of walking past a newspaper machine in the summer of 1990 [wikipedia says it was in September], and me glancing at the headlines, and seeing that W-41 had agreed to a tax increase, thereby breaking his solemn pledge to “Read His Lips”. Anyway, the memory was of having been stabbed not so much in the back as ackshually having been stabbed foursquare in the heart. Muh instincts knew that something turrible had just happened.… Read more »

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Bourbon
10 months ago

Bourbon,
Yeah I went to war under the banner at the machinations of that piece of filth and ate up all his “line in the sand” and the bad man “SADDam” hokkum. I fist pumped when his half-wit son conned us into stopping the “evil-doers” in Iraq.

I am, or was at least, a fool. At least I’m not evil like that family.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Penitent Man
10 months ago

The rot began in the 60s. The country died of gangrene directly Biden was sworn in. The parasites are now feasting upon the carcass.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
10 months ago

Ostei,
Agreed, and we’ve all discussed the origins (Frankfurt School, Alinsky, the sexual revolution, etc.).

What chaps my hide is that these things were cleverly and slyly presented to the trusting youth in a wholesome or righteous wrapping. Hippies were to be mocked but the real Leftists were the ones that shed the childlike veneer of 60s Counterculture and worked their deviltry as teachers, pols, writers and movie makers.

At least for my children, the opposition is out in the open and clearly and vehemently despises them. Subtlety is dead.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
10 months ago

The ’80s were when comic book movies, hiphop, Michael Jordan, the televised male buttocks and nude boomer divorce pillow talk took over popular culture. What’s different from now is that there was also other stuff made for people who thought all that was crap—and in sum that other stuff was a huge majority of all stuff. In theory that’s still the situation. An uncountable bounty of interesting present-day things is hidden on the internet…possibly. Who can know? Those things used to be at the store. They used to be *advertised*. Now even if you know the exact name of what… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
10 months ago

I agree that pop culture was better in the 80s, which is why I said (politically), especially race. I was constantly berated about race in the 80s, not to mention the bad old days before feminism. The 80s was also a time of constant gay propaganda and the poor gays dying of “grids” (AIDS) and those mean normal people who don’t want to be around them and how we’re homophobic for wanting them to not donate blood.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
10 months ago

Ostei: I spent most of the ’80s overseas, and what I do remember about that decade is not positive or roseate at all. I categorically reject any nostalgia for the ’70s and most of the ’60s. If I have anemoia, it’s for a fictional late 1940s and early 1950s – with a totally different future trajectory than what actually occurred. Electricity, indoor plumbing, antibiotics, traditional sexual roles, White nations, and the patriarachy – minus intrusive tech, farming conglomerates, and any non-White immigration. Oh, my fantasy past would eliminate television as well.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  3g4me
10 months ago

Bear in mind Truman integrated the military in 1948, so if you’re going to be a purist, you may have to fantasize about 1947. At any rate, I think most of us will agree that America was a great place even for hard-shell rightwingers into the mid-60s. At that point, however, the nation began to deteriorate noticeably, and the 80s were merely the final speed bump over which the New Left battalions ultimately rolled. Circa 2010, the process of decay increased dramatically again (much like the second half of the 60s), and when Biden was sworn in, the USA became… Read more »

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
10 months ago

The 80’s were good times! Apparently you weren’t there, or were too drunk or high to notice.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Vinnyvette
10 months ago

I was a teenager. Even as a teenager I was well aware of all the bad political stuff. The pushing of gays and integration and “anti-racism” and radical feminism was all present. Having been a teen in the 80s, yes, there was a lot of good times. But my personal good times is not political. The 80s is when they started bringing “racists” on TV to make fools of and throw tomatoes at them for being so evil. Lets not forget about all the gay propaganda that was everywhere back then. Don’t forget all the feminist stuff too. Nostalgia is… Read more »

Oswald Spengler
Oswald Spengler
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
10 months ago

I think the difference between 1980s pop culture and today’s pop culture is in 1980’s pop culture you still had to actively seek out leftist books, TV shows, and movies in order to consume leftist content. Today, the opposite is true. You have to make an effort to avoid mainstream media content because virtually everything is suffused with leftist agitprop, often explicitly so.

Oswald Spengler
Oswald Spengler
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
10 months ago

I think many people, especially conservatives, look on the 1980s fondly because it was, arguably, the last full decade that America had the semblance of a unified culture. It was the decade before Third World immigration (legal and illegal) really skyrocketed, before the passage of NAFTA and the offshoring of millions of manufacturing jobs, before the LGBTQIA+ agitprop really began to permeate the culture, The 1980s were just before the rise of the internet and the fracturing of pop culture into a myriad of subcultures.

usNthem
usNthem
10 months ago

“Sixty years ago, when the founders of the Buckley cult were getting started, they used language designed to inflame the passions of the great White middle-class, which they sensed was seething at the cultural changes that had been unleashed by the left.”

Unfortunately, the great White middle-class isn’t so great anymore, or numerous for that matter. And no one is sure as hell allowed to use any kind of language that might perhaps, maybe, possibly, when hell freezes over, inflame whatever passions are left in that dwindling group. A sad state affairs to be sure…

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
10 months ago

Both the Left and the Right remain in the past because neither has a plan for the future. The Right wants institutions and a culture based 18th century Anglo-American men for a country where whites will soon be a minority. The institutions and culture of that coming America (even the America of today) will reflect its biology, making that goal impossible. With no answer to that, the Right retreats into pretty words and ideas from long ago. Perhaps more surprisingly, the Left also doesn’t want to move forward. The Right’s desire to go back to the 1980s is understandable, but… Read more »

B125
B125
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
10 months ago

Nobody has an answer. Even Dissidents don’t know what is coming. We are aware of the current state of the West from correctly observing the world around us. But none of us really know what to do going forward. We are doing what we can but there’s no real game plan on a larger scale. I’ve thought alot about what needs to be done and there’s no realistic way of achieving it without gaining power, organization, and institutions. Funnily enough, Christian Nationalists have an answer and they are probably the only group with a coherent worldview that would actually be… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  B125
10 months ago

Yeah, hard to say what comes next. Brazil is a reasonable choice, but who knows.

As you note, the irony of the Left is that they want to impose an apartheid system on whites, but that system could only be maintained by whites.

The Left are incompetent and unrealistic. They live in a narrative world that only exists because whites still play along. How long will that last?

I don’t know. California, Mexico and, even, South Africa are still (somewhat) hobbling along. As long as upper middle class whites can escape the brown hoard, nothing will change.

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
10 months ago

“As you note, the irony of the Left is that they want to impose an apartheid system on whites, but that system could only be maintained by whites.”

2023 South Africa and modern Rhodesia says otherwise.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  RealityRules
10 months ago

Actually, Rhodesia says exactly that. When the blacks took over, the system collapsed.

What I mean is that a functioning system could only be maintained by whites.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
10 months ago

The establishment right refuses to give up its religious belief that race shouldn’t matter. They seem to believe that some combination of free market economics and traditional values can turn the incompatible races into a harmonious and law-abiding citizenry. They are willing to destroy the country before questioning this tenant.

The left’s primary goal is the dispossession of traditional whites. They seem to believe that they can handle all the remaining problems after this goal is achieved.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  LineInTheSand
10 months ago

Both the Left and the Right are fighting nature. And you can beat nature – for awhile but not forever.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  LineInTheSand
10 months ago

The Left really can’t grok the reality that traditional whites are the critical support for their delusional perspectives that water simply comes from the faucet, electricity from.the outlet, and food from the store.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
10 months ago

Of everyone screwed, the White/Big J Left are doomed the most. Everyone hates them and no one wants them as allies.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Jack Dobson
10 months ago

But they sign most of the checks to the politicians and the media executives. I hope that you are right.

Enoch Cade
Enoch Cade
10 months ago

Damn, that “Freedom Conservatism” is bad. Gave me a good laugh though. Thanks Z!

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
10 months ago

Ever since I’ve seen the B movie “Hot Tub Time Machine” that’s all I can think of when I think of Con Inc.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  JR Wirth
10 months ago

Except that movie was kind of fun whereas Con Inc. is just…yeah…

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
10 months ago

One of the signers, who says there’s no truth in advertising?

> Joe Walsh • White Flag with Joe Walsh

I also find it amusing that the link the twitter guy pointed to, written by a scholar known as Billionaire Psycho, has over three times the engagement all these other scholars had in their manifesto while being probably a one man show.

I can’t imagine what they did wrong. They even quoted MLK!

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
10 months ago

I have some normie friends who are still posting Ronald Reagan videos on social media. They write things like “the media is trying to divide us by race.” They truly believe that if the right people are elected, we will magically return to 1985 where kids will go to HS dances and rock concerts and young kids will play outside and run around in the woods. This fantasy is beyond maddening. None of that is happening, and even if you somehow elected the “right people” (which we all know is impossible), a very large portion of the “country” doesn’t share… Read more »

The Infant Phenomenon
The Infant Phenomenon
Reply to  Tired Citizen
10 months ago

Reply to “Tired Citizen” Great post! The diction is measured and sober, but the content makes the reader want to stand up and cheer! It has about it something of “a Macaulay air,” if I can put it that way, which recalls “The Lays of Ancient Rome.” Well done! And combined with ZMan’s reference to Banquo, we find ourselves starting this week with literary echoes of our proud past, however ironic that might be, given the theme of ZMan’s post this morning. “And how can man die better Than facing fearful odds For the ashes of his fathers And the… Read more »

Lucius Sulla
Lucius Sulla
Reply to  The Infant Phenomenon
10 months ago

On the literary kick… “For I am fighting for the old days, the old ways I love so much but which, I fear, are now gone forever, no matter how the die may fall. For, win or lose, we lose just the same. If we win this war and have the Cotton Kingdom of our dreams, we still have lost, for we will become a different people and the old quiet ways will go. The world will be at our doors clamoring for cotton and we can command our own price. Then, I fear, we will become like the Yankees,… Read more »

The Infant Phenomenon
The Infant Phenomenon
Reply to  Lucius Sulla
10 months ago

To Lucius Sulla:

Beautiful. Perfect.

And that passage echoes Macaulay and Dabney and Fitzhugh and my paternal grandmother and many others I’ve never read or maybe even heard of.

Good post!

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Lucius Sulla
10 months ago

Hm! Maybe I ought to watch that flick…

Lucius Sulla
Lucius Sulla
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
10 months ago

Eh – read the book. I’ve no idea if the movie contains this prose

wendy forward
wendy forward
Reply to  Lucius Sulla
10 months ago

Ashley was very smart and nice but not even on the same planet as Rhett, a true God who walked as Man.

fakeemail
fakeemail
Reply to  Tired Citizen
10 months ago

I’m as nostalgic about the 80s as anybody and would freakin’ love it if there were still bands like Journey and the rest. . .but that world is dead and gone. IT FAILED! No one was fighting to defend it. US won the Cold War and the economy boomed, meanwhile the border was wide open, the domestic jobs went bye-bye, youth were sacrificed to the molochs of abortion and the college racket, and all the women were taught to be ruthless whores. From my POV, it started with the women. Feminism was the cultural coup de grace from which there… Read more »

The Infant Phenomenon
The Infant Phenomenon
Reply to  fakeemail
10 months ago

” … youth were sacrificed to the molochs of abortion and the college racket, and all the women were taught to be ruthless whores.” Not only the youth, but the whole people. And the Moloch was universal suffrage. Everything you name was the result of vote-buying, and vote-buying was the direct result of relentless expansion of the suffrage. But “the women’s vote” with no-fault divorce and with unrestricted access to abortion, etc. And universal suffrage resulted from the population having believed our own wartime propaganda, which began with the Declaration’s language “all men are created equal,” which was a deliberate… Read more »

The Infant Phenomenon
The Infant Phenomenon
Reply to  The Infant Phenomenon
10 months ago

But “the women’s vote” with no-fault divorce and with unrestricted access to abortion, etc.

Should be “BUY” the women’s vote … .

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Tired Citizen
10 months ago

They write things like “the media is trying to divide us by race.”

It’s true, though. Just because apartheid is the natural and humane state of affairs, doesn’t mean the media isn’t trying to start a race war.

btp
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
10 months ago

Ugh. Here’s how you start a fight: you tell one side the other is out to kill them, and you tell the other side the one is out to get them.

Here’s how you start a genocide: tell one side the other is out to kill them.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
10 months ago

The media doesn’t want a race war. It wants whites to lie down for their own extermination.

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  Tired Citizen
10 months ago

Yep let’s beat up on Reagan some more. The Reagan years were good, whence the nostalgia. We’ll probably never have it so good again.

If the Reagan years sucked, ppl wouldn’t be nostalgic for that era. So blame Reagan… who’s living in the past here?

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Vinnyvette
10 months ago

Vinnyvette: Cognitive dissonance is not limited to the left. Dissidents and most certainly conservatards have their own versions. See: arming the mujahideen, Dept. of Education, Nafta, etc. etc. Some memorable phrases and speeches along with a sunny attitude do not a strong culture and nation make. And yes, I was an adult (21 and up) during the ’80s. They were not all that great.

vinnyvette
vinnyvette
Reply to  3g4me
10 months ago

Yeah? And it’s so much better post 80’s now ?LMFAO!

Get a grip!

Drive-By Shooter
Drive-By Shooter
10 months ago

Freedom Conservatism is an amusing little Substack. No comments are allowed, but the second post has the title “Initial reaction to the Freedom Conservatism Statement of Principles”. The subtitle here boasts about “Hundreds of thousands of readers on the first day of publication”, but the canned green beans (the FCSOP) have received only 69 hearts of love during the five days since publication.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Drive-By Shooter
10 months ago

While I generally like and enjoy Substack and the concept it represents, it reminds me a lot of washed-up pop singers who decide to perform country music in their old age. Lots of old acts go to Substack to die, so that is the perfect place for Freedom Conservative.

Crabe-tambour
Crabe-tambour
Reply to  Jack Dodson
10 months ago

The relatively young Dominic. Cummings is an exception to that. I like and respect his stuff, and I only wish he’d post a little more frequently. The only thing is that some of his prose is written in SW1speak, and I probably misunderstand–or simply don’t understand–some of his points.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Drive-By Shooter
10 months ago

With very few exceptions, the confidence of a writer is directly correlated to the openness of his comment section.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Chet Rollins
10 months ago

Indeed. I also maintain that the comment section is part and parcel of the message of the publication. Seems many in the Substack community have perceived this and only allow paid subscribers to post comments. Better than no comment section to be sure, but a de facto recognition of the value of user feedback.

The Infant Phenomenon
The Infant Phenomenon
Reply to  thezman
10 months ago

“He links to a “popular twitter thread” which is 99% the author replying to himself.”

Gazing into–and maybe through–his looking glass in concentrated self-regard, weaving a tapestry of self-regard. More literary echoes this morning!

“But in her web she still delights
To weave the mirror’s magic sights, … “

KGB
KGB
10 months ago

Describing Nick Fuentes as “young” seems a very conscious modifier, much like the way the media describes the bag of White House cocaine as “small”.

And it’s true. In a different age the 20-something Fuentes would have ceased being young. Not so today for his generation. Will they, can they ever grow up?

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  KGB
10 months ago

I suspect Fuentes will look like he’s 16 well into his 30s.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
10 months ago

I only want the corpse to realize it’s dead, so we can get on with it. Until then we’re stuck. Ho hum.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Paintersforms
10 months ago

Both sides of the established political divide are necrophiliacs, screwing the corpse in an effort to revive it like some degenerate Prince Charming.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  KGB
10 months ago

Ha ha. Gawd, what an image.

PrimiPilus
PrimiPilus
10 months ago

OOPS …. you missed one Z. George F. Will is on the list of signers. There’s gotta be one to “guide” them ….

Marko
Marko
Reply to  PrimiPilus
10 months ago

Do they still wheel him out for that ABC Sunday news show?

I really hope he has a grandson who watches Fuentes or brings up populist Conservatism at the Thanksgiving dinner.

Jack Boniface
Jack Boniface
Member
Reply to  Marko
10 months ago

George F. Will is 82. He didn’t start out a neocon, but backed the Iraq and now Ukraine wars. Gotta keep that WaPo check coming.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Jack Boniface
10 months ago

It is even worse. Will’s wife is or at least was a lobbyist for migrant labor in the agriculture industry. As a result, Will supports open borders and mass migration. Now his wife is a muckety wump with the Tim Scott for President juggernaut, which tells me there is at least a plan among the conservacucks to insert Uncle Tim into the top slot. It will/would be hilarious Will regularly cites Reagan and praises him, but in the day he was a great critic of the Gipper Grifter and a big Bush supporter. The man always has been a fraud.… Read more »

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
10 months ago

Yeah, the Right is rummaging though the ideological attic looking for inspiration while the Left gets on with inventing the future, new genders and AI/new humans. And it’s not just the GOP and Griller-Cons. Much of the discourse on the new Right is backward looking: Yarvin and Neo-Monarchists, BAP looking to Nietzche and the classic Greeks, the TradCath movement and its fellow travelers (Patrick Casey et al.), etc. Beyond the obvious utility as a coping mechanism, nostalgia is pretty understandable because today’s thinkers are looking for successful models from the past to recycle for the future. But it’s unlikely this… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Captain Willard
10 months ago

“we will figure out the Ideology later, but we can all agree that we have to stop the Left now”.

I think that’s part of the problem. They still put their faith in ideas.

The Infant Phenomenon
The Infant Phenomenon
Reply to  Paintersforms
10 months ago

“They still put their faith in ideas.”

And they can’t figure out how to get ideas “out of the barrel of a gun.”

Like nearly everything, it’s a failure of imagination.

RasQball
RasQball
Reply to  Paintersforms
10 months ago

YES – they cannot acknowledge that this is NOT an intellectual challenge, that this is NOT moot court.
It’s like trying to convince someone with a damaged cochlea that the “cymbals are too high in the mix, and EQd ‘much too bright'”.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Captain Willard
10 months ago

“You’d think they’d all join together and say: “we will figure out the Ideology later, but we can all agree that we have to stop the Left now”.”

That would require action from inert people. To be fair, bellies are full and houses are warm, so why bother now? Inertia is a luxury, and one that will not and cannot be sustained when things become as horrible economically as they are now socially. And that is coming.

TomA
TomA
10 months ago

Yes angst is a normal reaction to the present insanity. But that emotion does nothing to improve your life in the present, nor offer hope for the future. So why wallow in it? Better is to seek refuge from the Crazy and obtain as much joy and happiness as the present reality will allow. Both mental and physical fitness can be acquired via hard work (including physical labor) and a focus on growth. Learn new things that are useful and help others to do the same. Take pride in small accomplishments and be step-wise in your labors. Everyone should have… Read more »

The Infant Phenomenon
The Infant Phenomenon
Reply to  TomA
10 months ago

” … and go out with a bang if need be.”

For “how can man die better … “?

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  The Infant Phenomenon
10 months ago

“(J)est roll to your rifle and blow out your brains and go to your gawd like a soldier,” to quote some obscure literary figure. Watching it burn is the more attractive option.

BigJimSportCamper
BigJimSportCamper
Reply to  Jack Dobson
10 months ago

Kipling. Not exactly obscure.

RasQball
RasQball
Reply to  BigJimSportCamper
10 months ago

In India’s sunny clime
Where I used to spend my time
In the service of ‘er Majesty The Queen..

Götterdamn-it-all
Götterdamn-it-all
10 months ago

I would argue that we have been partying since 1945. We’ve been living in an American triumphalist bubble ever since. Liberals want to live in the movie “Casablanca”. Conservatives want to live in “Back to Bataan”.

btp
Member
10 months ago

Yeah, I don’t know. When you’re going down a bad path, you back up. Same thing with our current moment. I don’t even think there is anything new that could possibly exist when it comes to political organization. The real question is how far back do you need to go? Very stupid people think we go back to 2016, stupid people think 1981, ordinary dummies think 1951. But we have to go back, because there was some serious of decisions that put us on the wrong path. The American educational industry is dedicated to eliminating this thinking process. Talk to… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  btp
10 months ago

I to wish to “go back”, but am lost to exactly where. Seems we made any number of wrong turns over many decades past. So the question is where?

The Infant Phenomenon
The Infant Phenomenon
Reply to  Compsci
10 months ago

“So the question is where?” The problem is spiritual. Or psychological, if you prefer. And so is the answer. So in answer to your “Where?” the simplest answer would be “to the 12th century.” When man was truly comfortable–speaking psychically–in his own body and in his larger environment. And between here and there lie the obstacles of the Great War, the Bolshevik revolutions, Darwin, the French Revolution (1789), and so on. Materialism in general. The difficulty, of course, is getting there, past all those obstacles. That can most certainly be done, but it would require powers of imagination and discipline… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
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Reply to  The Infant Phenomenon
10 months ago

It is impossible to go back. What we can do is learn from past mistakes (and successes) and incorporate those lessons into the future we must build. Is there something from the 12th century that will help in the 21st? I imagine so. But we must be shrewd enough to discern what it is.

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
10 months ago

With the response of Mike Pence to Tucker concerning weapons in the Ukraine we can see the baby boomer Reagan Van Winkles that was popular on the right for many years, the Rush Limbaugh and neocon right, although perhaps Rush was pulling away from the neocons in his last years? The baby boomers on the left have gone from burning bras and opposing Vietnam to tranny sex and supporting foreign wars but they continue to look back at the 60’s for inspiration, they continue to oppose the man even though they are the man now. The bigger point is maybe… Read more »

btp
Member
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
10 months ago

Boomers catch a lot of heat because, of course, they are the worst collection of human beings, ever. They deserve all of it. But, they are simply the penultimate endpoint of massive historical forces that predate their uselessness by centuries.

I guess I’m saying their awfulness is not entirely their fault.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  btp
10 months ago

Programmed by TV and movies with no compelling reason to question the programming, or at least not compelling enough. Life has turned out well enough for them.

Who knows what they could’ve been, absent that pernicious influence?

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Paintersforms
10 months ago

The basic pernicious influence upon the Boomer generation was wealth brought about by the GAE (American Hegemony) post WWII. Nothing is inherently wrong with the people per se. Any other generation following on would have performed the same way given the same environment.

This blaming of one generation for the results of the next is tiresome and non-productive. As a Boomer, I guess I should blame the “Greatest Generation” for my failures and so on and so forth.

Richard A
Richard A
Reply to  Compsci
10 months ago

“This blaming of one generation for the results of the next is tiresome and non-productive.”

Precisely.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Compsci
10 months ago

Right. Carrots and sticks. I can’t say I’d have been as willing to question the status quo if it had been working for me, so I have that much understanding.

Believe me, having grown up in LanCo, and having seen what material prosperity has done to the place, I grew up hating money. Made me weirdly monastic, in fact. So I get the pernicious influence of wealth. What I never understood was why the people who would complain about the same things I was complaining about were quick to call me a commie for pointing out the cause. Fwiw.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
10 months ago

Hindsight is 20/20. The Boomers had no idea what TV was doing to them.

Here’s an interesting television interview with Aldous Huxley from 1958; perceptive as Huxley was, he seems to not be particularly worried about television, in his opinion television is being used for good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alasBxZsb40

My generation, X, unleashed computer games and internet porn on the world, and made good mint on the side. So maybe we should be careful with the Boomer-hate; it might come back to bite us.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Felix Krull
10 months ago

Woodstock, Woodstock ‘94, Woodstock ‘99. No more Woodstock.

The Infant Phenomenon
The Infant Phenomenon
Reply to  Paintersforms
10 months ago

“Who knows what they could’ve been, absent that pernicious influence?”

The problem is antecedent to that. Besides which, tens of millions of Boomers were subject to those same influences without becoming lunatics. There’s very little–if any at all–cause and effect there.

How many readers here got the shots or wore the masks?

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  The Infant Phenomenon
10 months ago

The later Boomers subjected to forced busing and affirmative action were the first casualties of this war. As far as I know, the Greatest Generation (maybe the Silents) engineered those atrocities. People have been powerless a long, long time.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  The Infant Phenomenon
10 months ago

“How many readers here got the shots or wore the masks?” As much as I rail against the “jab”, don’t for a moment think I would never have gotten the jab. Reserve your respect for others who post here. I was hesitant, but *before* I had to “crap or get off the pot”, before my queued position for vexination, I got Covid. After a bout of Covid, I reverted to a more reasoned person—rather than a panic cow in the herd. The effect of the disease on me was that of a slight cold and my training in school taught… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  The Infant Phenomenon
10 months ago

I’ve seen too much media-driven herd behavior in my day to believe otherwise. The screen is the only thing that can do that, because it’s seductive. All the worse now that you carry it with you, but at least the internet wasn’t monolithic for a while.

The Infant Phenomenon
The Infant Phenomenon
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
10 months ago

“Our ideas are in the past and the following generations have yet to come up with their own ideas and heroes? And maybe they never will?”

“The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.”

Attempts to re-invent the wheel are pointless at best.

Barnard
Barnard
10 months ago

Number 7 on the linked list is a real howler: The best way to unify a large and diverse nation like the United States is to transfer as many public policy choices as possible to families and communities. What says national unity and effective government like letting a large group of people with almost nothing in common do whatever they want? A few years ago I saw a column from a National Review intern where he claimed he had shared culture with a non white because they both loved watching baseball and eating Taco Bell. I see Kevin Williamson is… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Barnard
10 months ago

Williamson got free fast food to participate.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
10 months ago

Free Taco Bell, to be more precise…

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
10 months ago

The conservative cosplay essay you linked has to be seen as of a piece with the candidate forum Tucker Carlson hosted Friday in Iowa. I really think Con, Inc., died at the event. Even more than the bromides, cliches and stilted poses, the absolute artifice of robots such as Tim Scott and Mike Pence went well beyond self-parody. It was as is the “freedom-conservative” (LOL) author had written a script for them. It was more Austin Powers than Rip Van Winkley. If you haven’t watched it please do. I read a responsive piece to freedom-conservative banality this weekend along the… Read more »

ArthurinCali
ArthurinCali
10 months ago

This shows up a lot with the people who are still convinced that if enough of the ‘right’ candidates are voted into office the wheels of time will magically rewind to around 1985 or so. The fervent belief that things can be reset shows the longing for the past where as Zman states, the country had an actual identity, not this current misshapen blob of globo-consumerism.

FNC1A1
Member
10 months ago

Both the Russian Reset and healthcare initiatives were perfect examples of B. H. Obama’s failures. In both cases there were good practical reasons to seek a better relationship with Russia or a better delivery of healthcare to Americans. In both cases there were numerous examples of Obama’s ability to pronounce fine rhetoric. And in both cases there was a utter failure to deliver practical results. The current American problems with the Ukraine war can be traced to the incompetence of B. H. Obama’s regime. As for healthcare, for many Americans it remains an expensive burden, often unavailable to those of… Read more »

Hoagie
Hoagie
10 months ago

I realize I’m not the brightest bulb at the ZBlog, but I have absolutely no idea what today’s blog means. Read get twice and I still can’t make head nor tails of it. It’s like trying to read to Taki while drunk on bourbon.

Gideon
Gideon
Reply to  Hoagie
10 months ago

It’s like “All Our Yesterdays” from the original Star Trek. A planet whose civilization lacks space flight capability has a sun that is about to go super-nova. Fortunately for them, they’ve developed the technology for time-travel, so the entire population has teleported themselves to their favorite periods from the planet’s history. The main point of this article is that there is an awareness across the political spectrum that we are headed in a bad direction, so people are looking to escape into our past.

David Wright
Member
Reply to  Gideon
10 months ago

Good Episode. Before going get all your dental work done and take some modern meds etc with you.

Oswald Spengler
Oswald Spengler
Reply to  Gideon
10 months ago

If I remember the episode correctly, The Atavachron — the Sarpeidon time portal — wasn’t just for travelling back to a person’s favorite time period. Zarabeth (Spock’s love interest in the episode) was banished to Sarpeidon’s ice age, five thousand years in the past. So the inhabitants of Sarpeidon also used the Atavachron as a sort of “time gulag.”

Gideon
Gideon
Reply to  Oswald Spengler
10 months ago

True enough. Just like today’s dissidents are banished back into the Nazi time period.

RasQball
RasQball
Reply to  Gideon
10 months ago

Guys…that stuff was interesting to me as a 12 year old!

Do you not see the wages of the propagation of Gene Roddenberry (Starfleet! The Federation! Galactic Kumbaya!) and Rod Serling (“Everything is relative and illusory and a product of imagination, brah!) in the prevalence of What You Decry?

cg2
cg2
Reply to  Hoagie
10 months ago

I looked up definitions of the 2 title words and thought about them for a bit first. Keep them in mind as you go thru the essay and reflect on each paragraph and how those words relate to what he has written.

David Wright
Member
10 months ago

Can I be reinserted back into my battery pod?

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  David Wright
10 months ago

Uh oh. Is that what they mean by “we have to go back”?

Bluepilled af

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  David Wright
10 months ago

I know this steak isn’t real … Oh and be someone important, like an actor.

Best scene in that movie by far. Hollywood could still be self deprecating. Now every two-bit extra is as inflated as Bono. And that, is why it is so dangerous. You want to see a dangerous psychopath check out Bono and his sidekick gleefully funding and supporting an African invasion of Europe.