Numbers

If you were a young person in the 1980’s and caught up in the swelling conservative movement, you needed to know the numbers. Conservatism, to a great degree, was about making rational arguments which meant starting with the numbers. Things like the budget deficit, economic growth, crime rates and inflation were a common part of the conservative counter to progressive claims. At its most basic, conservatism was rational while liberalism was emotional.

For a while it seemed like the conservatives had carried the day on this issue as the public discourse slowly mirrored conservative discourse. When public figures talked about politics and social issues, it was about the numbers. The media would make a day of covering the latest speech by the Fed chair. Alan Greenspan became a rock star who gave speeches to huge crowds. Every politician made sure to have the Congressional Budget Office bless his latest idea.

Through the Bush years, economists took the place of the court astrologer, providing empirical authority to every normative claim. This reached its peak in the first Obama term when they said that every dollar spent by the government created more than a dollar of economic activity. A line of people with impressive sounding credentials provided the math of this claim. This was the argument in favor of the massive spending program unleashed by the Obama administration.

It was not just politics that got the numbers treatment. After every Super Bowl, the media would spend a day or two crunching the numbers to prove that you were the only weirdo who did not set aside the day to watch the big game. Television ratings were a mainstay of media coverage. The stock market became the central measure of social happiness, with cable channels dedicated to telling us the numbers and what the numbers meant for your happiness.

Today, no one discusses the numbers. Someone arguing for a policy on the grounds that it is good the economy sounds like someone arguing for free silver. In fact, it is the primary criticism of Conservative Inc. They do not care about crossdressers chasing your son around the playground or the tidal wave of brown people pouring over the border into your neighborhood. They care about the carried interest deduction and locking in tax cuts that few experienced or remember.

What is the current projected federal deficit? Without googling it, few people would know, and most people would not bother to do it. The same is true of the total federal debt, which used to be a headline topic. How much does the Federal government owe and to whom do they owe it? Washington is embroiled in a huge drama right now set off by the Federal budget debate and no one bothers mentioning that about forty percent of what they spent is borrowed.

One reason no one talks about the economic numbers is they have become inconceivable large, so they have no impact. People can grasp a million and they can sort of grasp a billion. Being a millionaire would be nice and being a billionaire would be awesome, but trillionaire? It is probably better than billionaire, but what is bigger than anything you can imagine? The thirty-plus trillion federal debt is a meaningless number because it is outside of what most people can imagine.

There is a bigger issue that applies to all the numbers. Decades of lying about the numbers have made all of them suspect. The totally fake economic data pumped out in the Obama years sunk the credibility of the court wizards. When those people with impressive credentials put on their serious faces and said that taking money from you and giving some of it to your neighbor would grow the economy, even the most innumerate started to question the math.

It is not just the big stuff where lying has undermined the trust in the numbers that used to be the guideposts of society. Television ratings are obviously bogus or not as meaningful as claimed. If the people making the content cared about ratings, they would not have smeared their feces all over popular content. Ad makers would not have replaced most of the white people with nonwhites. They certainly would not have every white woman paired with a black guy.

Probably the most egregious offender of the numbers are the tech companies, who clearly fake all of their numbers. How many users are really on Twitter? No one knows but we know the official number is a lie. We can clearly see that the follower counts and impressions are fake. Before buying Twitter, Elon Musk made the rather obvious claim that the site was riddled with bots and fake accounts. Once the deal closed, he stopped talking about the bots and fake accounts.

There is more to the general fakery than the unreliability of the numbers. It is that it reflects a collapse in trust. When the government claims inflation is under control, but you keep seeing your expenses climb, you are reminded by the numbers that the people in charge cannot be trusted. When some new personality bursts on the scene claiming to have a huge audience, but no one you know heard of the guy until last week, you cannot help but wonder if it is a lie.

The numbers of life are not supposed to tell us what we ought to do, but to be a measure of what we are doing. If we cannot trust the numbers or the people issuing the numbers, then we cannot know what they are doing. We have no way of judging what is being told to us or if it is on the level. The only logical response is to assume the numbers are fake and the people issuing them are lying. A society with unreliable numbers is a society run by unreliable people.

Of course, this is most clear in politics. The most important numbers are the votes counted on election night. The logic of democracy is that everyone gets their say, then everyone votes and the side with the most votes wins. Along the way polling tells us how the various arguments and people are doing. If all of these numbers are fake, then what is the point? If the numbers at the soap box and the ballot box cannot be trusted, you are left with the numbers in the cartridge box.

Since the end of the Cold War, American society has travelled along an arc that started with a trust in the numbers and the people behind them to a place where no sane person trusts the numbers or the people behind them. That is probably why it feels like this pirate ship of a society called America is sailing into dangerous waters. Odds are just numbers, and the odds say that in a world without reliable numbers, the most likely outcome is the ship eventually sinks.


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miforest
miforest
1 year ago

in all the worlds plots and plans , this is a great source of information .
https://richardpoe.substack.com/ they go hard on the great resets leader , king charlie. he is way above klaus .

Cats Kill
Cats Kill
Reply to  miforest
1 year ago

The British run the world! If that is so why can you say anything about them? No one will ever be de-platformed or fired from their job for libeling the English.

To help you with thinking may I suggest you try to consider the power of groups who you are not allowed to talk about. Groups who insist you have open borders but their country must always be their ethnic homeland.

whatever2020
whatever2020
Member
1 year ago

One unintended consequence of Clown World that is a good thing is it makes it impossible for those stuck and fixated on “numbers” to, now as of the present, get anywhere with it. It’s to the point now that those who still won’t let go of this (almost all Conservative, Inc. types) get no traction with it and instead receive heated flak, or get laughed at (both well deserved). A couple good case study examples from only the past week or two: 1. We not only have low-IQ vibrants running amok all over society, pretty much everywhere, doing material and… Read more »

Guest
Guest
1 year ago

If you were involved in the conservative movement in the ’80s and are a reader of this blog, then you are probably: (a) relatively high IQ (120+); (b) literate and at least modestly well read; (c) numerate; and (d) analytical. We have been objectively correct about every issue for the last 50 years. From a policy analysis standpoint, we are batting 1000. From a political standpoint we have been an abject failure, losing nearly every battle of consequence in the culture wars and in the political wars. As it pertains to the subject matter of this post, it is because… Read more »

ClimateChangs
ClimateChangs
Reply to  Guest
1 year ago

I guess I agree the transgender freakazoids are statistically irrelevant (though this is a non sequitur, it’s a values conflict and not a management issue). But, isn’t the better example the coof

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Guest
1 year ago

It’s classic MBA behavior (“But Excel said it would work!!”).

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Guest
1 year ago

Guest: “I’m becoming convinced that the Pol board on 4chan is the most effective resource for our side.” I agree strongly with you there, however, I fear that there’s a lurking psycho-sociological trap into which we might be ambling. And it very much involves NUMBERS. 81% of all Amurrikkkunz are now v@xxinated. SOURCE: https://usafacts.org/visualizations/covid-vaccine-tracker-states 100% of all v@xxinated persons now have Myocarditis. SOURCE: https://pubs.rsna.org/doi/10.1148/radiol.230743 =============== Setting aside the fact that 81% of all Amurrikkkunz now living will be dead of heart failure no later than circa the 2030s [and ignoring the associated implications for the collapse of the economy &… Read more »

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Bourbon
1 year ago

Well, I’ve got eleven down-votes and counting, so at least eleven Bros here chez Z are either married to nurses or have daughters who are nurses [or maybe they’re the sons of nurses]. HOPEFULLY the nurses in y’all’s famblies are the good nurses, the Pro-Life nurses, who would never in their worst nightmares deign to harm a patient. But the quickly diminishing pool of good nurses is being overwhelmed by the Cluster B Passive Aggressive Sadistic types who literally orgasm at the thought of murdering a patient. And, as a v@xxinated adult, if it’s a Pure-B100ded child she gets to… Read more »

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Guest
1 year ago

I would only add:

* Almost absolute control of the media by liberals, which controls our morality, our awareness of issues, and the relative importance of issues
* That most intelligent people do not seem to have the ability to think independently, especially when immersed in liberal media hegemony
* The electorate, the people, has vastly changed since the 80s due to massive immigration, both legal and illegal

Our elites have flooded us with less intelligent and more tribal people.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Guest
1 year ago

Guest: Very well said. As one particular blogger has noted, effective rhetoric has to appeal to the listener. Too many on our side use what they consider witty or appealing to their own intellect. You need to engage the audience’s emotions, not their brains. And at this point, as you note, the hell with pure logic or numerical accuracy – metaphorical reality and appeal to emotion are winning strategies. Not to mention carefully crafted ‘verboten’ dog whistles – normiecon Whites are terrified of being considered rayciss.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Guest
1 year ago

As much as I agree with what you’ve written, I would argue that its too late for memetic warfare to save us; even if we made a full-court press to utilize these resources properly. The Borg already has full control over the dominant social media platforms, MSM, and schools. Too much woke indoctrination has already been wired in to the mushheads and all the incoming illegals will do as they are told. We are outnumbered by sheeple and the jackboots will start rounding up the “insurgents” as soon as the flare goes up. We will need a new and innovative… Read more »

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  TomA
1 year ago

And /pol/’s meme production rate has been throttled to near-zero by the English-speaking staff of 4chan. The site is owned by a Japanese guy who has no idea what’s happening but has a vague sense that he should be “advertiser-friendly.” In Anglospheric practice that means being censored beyond usefulness and still boycotted by advertisers. /pol/ is “Tuckerized.” To anyone who thinks it still functions, I suggest reading it and attempting to learn something from it. You can’t. It’s all bots, lies, and things you’ve seen four hundred times already. To anyone citing the Norman Lincoln Rockwell AI art as a… Read more »

NoOneAtAll
NoOneAtAll
Reply to  Guest
1 year ago

Don’t buy the self congratulatory “we’re simply too smart for everyone” theory. Seems adjacent to the “nice guy” that feels all the girls haven’t realized how nice he is and as soon as they do they’ll drop their football motorcycle gang boyfriends and give him a chance. The left represents destruction, license, rebellion against God and all hierarchy (literally the “sacred rule”) thereby legitimated. Plenty of smart people are leftist, probably most, in most places. Shirking duty and doing the easy selfish thing does not appeal uniquely to the low IQ. Beautiful things come apart because bad people tear them… Read more »

Luber
Luber
1 year ago

Wait until you find out the estimated size of the reserve market. Quadrillion is the term you’re looking for.

Then again you’d have to know something about economics and finance or at least know of the market’s existence. They don’t talk about it for a reason.

Also, remember what I said, everyone, about Z not being able to see Musk is an obvious intel asset. That business wrapped up about as expected given my comment.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  Luber
1 year ago

It’s funny though, about the GDP claims…It’s true that every time the Feds spend a dollar on more government, the GDP goes up, because GDP these days is measured by expenditures, not actual production…But spending a dollar on government generally produces zero, but the money lost in taxes actually reduces real output…But the Conservatives continue to blather on about GDP, while the rest of the world has started relying on PPP….

Dutch Boy
Dutch Boy
1 year ago

We have “progressed” to the Soviet level: they pretend to calculate and we pretend to believe them.

Baker Shakey
Baker Shakey
1 year ago

Which of the following statements is true:

1. There’s safety in numbers.
2. The numbers don’t lie.
3. We won’t know the results until all the numbers are in.

(We have all heard these statements before.)

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
1 year ago

I’m a fraction of the way through dissident-recommended “To Build a Castle” by Soviet dissident Vladimir Bukovsky. Without giving anything away: As a troublemaker, he did time as a political prisoner. To while away the time during his many stints in the punishment cell, he’d sketch his imaged castle upon the walls. Furthermore he’d visualize in great detail life in the castle. I’m just speculating here, but seems to me the castle is a metaphor of the fairy tale promises of a glorious socialist future as opposed to the grim quotidian realities of life there.

steve w
steve w
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 year ago

Keep reading. That is not at all what Bukovsky meant. If anything, as a metaphor, his castle refers to a bastion of civilization and warmth, well-protected against the follies of collectivist existence, filled with memories, friends, thoughts, etc. It may also be a metaphor for his own resistance: He spiritually LIVED in that castle, which is why they could not beat him and ended up tossing him out of the country. His “castle” was the symbol of his own defiance.

That is how I read it, anyway.

Polemeros
Polemeros
1 year ago

A crucial flaw in US conservatism vs Us liberal/progressive/wokeism is that the conventional Right has refused to identify its ideology with concrete, identifiable and pre-existing groups.

Nowadays, if you are a “person of color”, Black most of all, if you are a woman, if you are a sexual outlier, you MUST be a Democrat. This is a great strength.

But with abstract non-racial and non-gendered ideas like “liberty” or, worse, “small government,” AND an utter REFUSAL identify being conservative with, for example, being White, conservatism is weak tea, cowardly tea, and perpetually losing tea.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Polemeros
1 year ago

Tea that should be dumped in Boston Harbor with all dispatch.

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Polemeros
1 year ago

“…with abstract non-racial and non-gendered ideas like “liberty” or, worse, “small government,” AND an utter REFUSAL identify being conservative with, for example, being White…”

Historically those abstract concepts were exclusively associated with whiteness, certainly in the 1780s when the country was founded. It was just plain common sense that these things did not apply to Negroes and “merciless Indian savages” as Jefferson described them.

The U.S. Bill of Rights was inspired by the English Bill of Rights of 1688, which of course was written for an exclusively white nation.

Anonymous Frog
Anonymous Frog
Reply to  Xman
1 year ago

I know this is a racist blog and all but in addition to the group differences in tribalism vs individualistic thinking and intelligence, mass democracy doesn’t work when it’s white men either. Jacksonian mass democracy and mass democracy in Europe after revolutions of 1848 didn’t work at all.
Carl Schmitt talks about how a parliament might be a legitimate basis for a societal order when sufficiently aristocratic but the masses have no ability to think independently and are, and must be, essentially lead. This is a big point of Carlyle, as well.

steve w
steve w
Reply to  Polemeros
1 year ago

Imagine explaining to a a TEFL or TESL student why saying “persons of color” is good English but saying “colored people” is a thoughtcrime. For instance, in Spanish: personas de color = good; personas coloradas = thoughtcrime.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  steve w
1 year ago

For the Leftist, the genitive case is morally preferrable because it notes race obliquely. Ergo, we avert our gaze as if you were a god when noting your pigmentation. The nominative case, OTOH, is direct and makes no pretense about race. You are not white, and we make no bones about it. There is no obeisance before the non-white.

Pozymandias
Reply to  Polemeros
1 year ago

It actually IS possible to make “the ____ case for small government” or “the ____ case against utopianism” without recourse to referring to White people or their historical ideology. The problem is that you need to have embraced a large amount of Leftist utopiansim and race/sex blindness to think that it’s going to be possible to convince women, Blacks, etc… to accept these arguments. The Left owns Blacks, women, gays, and quite a few other groups because they correctly see that it’s generally in their simple, short-term interests to endorse political arrangements that plunder and oppress White men. They generally… Read more »

James Proverbs
James Proverbs
1 year ago

It’s all so fake and feminine I’ve begun not to trust anything I’m told now or have learned in the past. ESPECIALLY foundational givens and assumptions.

I even happened on a discussion this morning that halfway made me start to consider if the Earth is really flat after all. Further research needed certainly, but at this point I am not ruling it out.

If we can’t look back in fondness on the Gipper any longer….well, I can at least thank him for “Trust but Verify”!

DLS
DLS
Reply to  James Proverbs
1 year ago

Here’s a good one. American history has always told us Jesse Owens humiliated Hitler at the 1936 olympics and destroyed his theories about a master race. I didn’t even know this until someone on Gab pointed it out recently: Total medals for Germany – 101. Second was the US at 56. Some humiliation.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  DLS
1 year ago

Although I haven’t confirmed this, I have heard many times that Owens himself said that Hitler treated him with respect when they met and that it was FDR who disrespected him. But just as we can’t trust the economic numbers anymore, we can’t trust history. Before I posted this, I tried to find the Owens interview. The first few pages of my search were all “Owens humiliates Hitler!” I may never be able to find that interview, if it even exists. I grew up in a high trust society. Words fail to convey how jarring it is to now live… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

Line: Check yandex.com – came up with quite a few links. One –

https://theamericanchronicle.blogspot.com/2015/07/hitler-fdr-and-jesse-owens.html

steve w
steve w
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

Hitler’s racial obsession was with “impurity” rather than “difference”. He hated Jews because their presence in western societies had tainted the bloodlines of the ancient peoples of Europe, especially the German stock. He hated Slavs because their long-term admixture of Asiatic peoples, especially the Mongols, had rendered them a mongrel people. He hated the gypsies on general principle, as normal Europeans do even today. In summary, Hitler was fussy about the racial constituents of Greater Germany, just as he was about his diet, much as vegans are today: It was all about Purity of Essence. Laura Hillenbrand’s ‘Unbroken’, an excellent… Read more »

Anonymous Fake
Anonymous Fake
Reply to  DLS
1 year ago

Supposedly Hitler and Owens hanged out after the Olympics and Owens saw that Hitler’s public act was all just for show. Owens got an autographed photo of Hitler from that.

Nick Nolte's Mugshot
Nick Nolte's Mugshot
Reply to  James Proverbs
1 year ago

I agree. I feel that I have been brain washed from birth every bit as much as a North Korean.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  James Proverbs
1 year ago

One of my shticks is the flat earth metaphor. In common usage of course, it’s meant as a term of ridicule, against someone with incorrect beliefs. Yet, I ask: For the average person, is it “incorrect”? Isn’t it a fact that for 99.9% of all the activities an ordinary person will ever do in his life, a two-dimensional representation of the world is adequate? Now it’s true that for some activities, the physical sciences, air and space travel, a three-dimensional model works better. Will you concede the point that, for all practical everyday purposes, flat earth is a useful tool?… Read more »

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 year ago

Will you concede the point that, for all practical everyday purposes, flat earth is a useful tool?

Tool for what?

It’s very easy:
1) Get a 3′ ruler
2) Go to the beach
3) Align the ruler to the horizon

I suspect that 90% of flatearthers are enemy agents pestering dissident talk board to make us look crazy.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 year ago

It’s easy to find talk about flat earthers. It’s hard to find even one flat earther. Seems kind of like the CIA inventing the term “conspiracy theory.”

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Oh, they’re out there. Whether they’re genuine is another question.

WillS
WillS
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

I think the “Flat Earth Society” is in honor of the late Terry Pratcher. It showed up in 2016 shortly after his death. The people involved read like astro-physicists.

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 year ago

I’ve noticed with the flat earth people that when someone bothers to explain to them why that cant’ possibly be the case, they just get this shit-eating grin and hold their ground like they know they’re wrong. And it’s very similar to the dupers delight you see from politicians when they’re telling you how infinity money printing works or we’re saving ukrainian democracy.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Ploppy
1 year ago

Yes.

Though, the three-step recipe I posted works quite well as a flathead-repellant, their main talking point being “trust only your own observations.”

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 year ago

Newtonian physics got us to the moon and back…it was “close enough”.

Intelligent Dasein
Intelligent Dasein
Member
1 year ago

Today, no one discusses the numbers. Someone arguing for a policy on the grounds that it is good the economy sounds like someone arguing for free silver. In fact, it is the primary criticism of Conservative Inc. Yes, and the fact that this is the Dissident Right’s primary criticism of Conservative Inc., is the primary criticism of the Dissident Right (or ought to be). Unfortunately for some strains of Dissidentism, the boring financial topics really are the things that matter in the long run. The problem with Conservative Inc. was not that it focused on the wrong subjects, but that… Read more »

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Intelligent Dasein
1 year ago

ID, I look forward to your posts because of your intelligence and because you see the world so differently than I do. I’m curious about why smart and honest guys interpret the world in a fundamentally different way than me. I look for short, revealing examples of where we disagree. This is one: “The world does not need more adrenaline junkies. That’s what got us to where we are in the first place.” I believe that affluence made white people far too permissive in what they would accept and overlook, but I see our current situation as an intentional demolition.… Read more »

Intelligent Dasein
Intelligent Dasein
Member
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

Thank you for your kind words, LineInTheSand. I suppose the phrase “adrenaline junkies” was a bit hyperbolic on my part. By that I simply meant “shortsighted people who react strongly based on their own parochial views but do not see the big picture,” or something like that. Of course, this describes the majority of people, which is fine. It’s normal for normal people to be that way, and normal people provide the mass of men, the ordinary soldiers and workers, who carry out the decisions of the leaders. You just shouldn’t give a normal man too much responsibility and power,… Read more »

DLS
DLS
1 year ago

The per capita debt is a pretty effective way to look at it. While $33 trillion is inconceivable (you keep using that word), telling all 261 million adults in the US they owe $127,000 each, and the government will be by tomorrow to discuss your payment plan, would certainly get everyone’s attention.

Intelligent Dasein
Intelligent Dasein
Member
Reply to  DLS
1 year ago

It’s even worse if you divide the debt only among gainfully employed individuals of positive net worth, who are the only ones who actually can pay anything towards it. Then it’s probably 4 or 5 times as much.

Nick Nolte's Mugshot
Nick Nolte's Mugshot
Reply to  Intelligent Dasein
1 year ago

You mean our newest Americans Jose and Juanita aren’t going to chip in a few pesos towards the cause?

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Nick Nolte's Mugshot
1 year ago

Of course, they chip in. The problem is how much? Last I looked, the tax revenue gleaned from the lowest 2 quintiles of the population was *negative*! In short, the “poor”—even the “working poor” never produce a positive cash flow above their (welfare) benefits. (Note: One should not define “welfare” to be simply cash payments like EBT and Head-of-Household IRS refunds. There are myriad programs the working poor take advantage of—school, health care, etc.)

McLeod
McLeod
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

The last I saw the only demographic group with a lifetime net tax positive were White males. So a quick back of the envelope puts it at $355,000.00 per productive member of society.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

Yep, and the typical White middle class family probably has less than a couple hundred thousand in wealth upon retirement.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Nick Nolte's Mugshot
1 year ago

Your new Americans aren’t going to be Jose and Juanita.
“On board the Biden Express – Dailymail.com joins the throng of African migrants on daily sold-out Flight TK800 from Istanbul to Bogota as they make their way to our southern border”

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12576219/On-board-Biden-Express-African-migrants-flight-Istanbul-Bogota.html

Do try to keep up with the rest of the class.

Nick Nolte's Mugshot
Nick Nolte's Mugshot
Reply to  Bilejones
1 year ago

Interesting. The story says that these poor and destitute African refugees are paying $10,000 to $12,000 for transit to the promised land and myself, a so called “rich American” has trouble paying for my family to take a three day/two night driving trip to a National park 100 miles from my house

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Intelligent Dasein
1 year ago

Blackrock could pay it off out of petty cash. And I’d be happy if they were forced to.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

Not really. Blackrock has no wealth of its own. It merely aggregates baskets of stocks for your 401(k) and pension fund to invest in. That is the most infuriating part, that it’s not even Fink’s money that gives him all the power. At least Soros pretends to own the money he transfers from the CIA to lefty causes.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
1 year ago

“The numbers of life are not supposed to tell us what we ought to do, but to be a measure of what we are doing.”

My biggest beef with the Church of the Almighty Dollar is that we’re supposed to worship the goals of the numbers, not just use them as a measure.

Worse, now that numbers are as fake as a bird’s liver, we’re supposed to worship the enlightened goals of…fake numbers.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
1 year ago

A very long book could be written on this subject. The S&P 500 is another example. How did those stocks get in there? Who chose them? Why is the energy industry so underrepresented in the index? Scratching the surface you find a process for picking those stocks that’s far less objective than meets the eye, picked by a committee of obscure, left leaning people. The fact that this index is a benchmark for every pension fund and money manager on the planet means nothing I guess. You better pull for tech to outperform over the next five years if you… Read more »

DLS
DLS
Reply to  JR Wirth
1 year ago

On your first point, it is mostly market cap weighted. The top 10 are about 31% of the index. Given they are almost all tech, you second point is very valid. An additional point I would make is that those top 10 are dominated by far left, shitlib, democrat donors: Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, Google, Meta, Berkshire Hathaway. The next layer is full of pharmaceutical companies. In discussions with liberals, It’s fun telling them they are now the supporters corporate America and Big Pharma, and that we should raise the corporate rate to 50%. You know, like they had been saying… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  DLS
1 year ago

That’s the thing- market cap is based upon speculative valuation. It’s all fake and gay, or better put, manipulated.

pantouf
pantouf
1 year ago

“,,, this pirate ship of a society called America.”

Too accurate.

Way before the end the USSR was putting out numbers no one believed.

Diversity Heretic
Member
1 year ago

Some other commentators have mentioned the Covid numbers as an example of how unreliable and manipulative reporting can be. It’s very difficult to determine how many people have died from a specific pathogen; it has to be done in arrears, usually takes months of analysis, and is subject to a wide margin of error. (Medical historians still disagree widely on how many people died of “Spanish influenza” in 1918-1919.) Yet in the spring of 2020 we were given an overnight mortality count from Covid. To anyone knowledgeable about epidemiology, this number was obviously fabricated, but no one in authority disputed… Read more »

pantouf
pantouf
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
1 year ago

Saw another Larry Johnson interview where he points out that neither govt can effectively control social media, and that the Ukrainian posts are fully of pics and vids of cemeteries flying many many MANY flags over fresh graves. The Russian social media? No.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  pantouf
1 year ago

No argument from me with Larry’s analysis, But having seen literally dozens of social media postings from Ukrainian propaganda organs, if one is sentient and reasonably worldly, the bulls__t is obvious. If nothing else, the Russkies seem to have a bit more respect for their audience’s intelligence.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
1 year ago

Of course the primary technique of Covid cookery was to classify as Covid casualties those who died with Covid along with those who actually died from Covid. The former number is far larger than the latter, which suited the Power Structure just fine.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

Yes, with the initial impacts of Covid, was it that overarching disease, or was the mortality attributable to the opportunistic infections that walk through the door opened by one’s overwhelmed immune system (or especially in the case of Covid, the “treatments”, i.e., Remdesivir, and ventilation). In the beginning, the push was to blame Covid itself, while paying no attention to the deleterious “treatments”, or the comorbidities to pump the numbers in order to justify the instillation of panic to get people to take the jab. Sweet, huh; they increase the death and injury totals through this selective deception. But now,… Read more »

Chad
Chad
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

I’m not sure if all jurisdictions did this, but where I’m from they classified anyone who died within 2 weeks of taking their hastily procured vaccine as ‘unvaccinated’.

Which means that if the jab was actually inducing a disproportionate amount of fatal reactions, it was also being used statistically to overstate the severity of COVID.

miforest
miforest
Reply to  Chad
1 year ago

there is a world of evedence that the whole plandemic was carefully planned , closely managed and intended to allow a worldwide takeover of national governments by a WEF type organization. the jabs are to shorten the lives and wreck the fertility of the ” Excess People ” as yuval Harari calls them(us) . have a great day.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

It was not just classification cheating, but outright lies. I know someone who is a Spanish interpreter at one of the largest hospitals in the country. She said she saw non-English speaking patients test positive for Covid who would swear they were never tested. Since both the government regulators and the hospitals wanted the numbers to be as high as possible, the incentives to fake numbers without consequence were overwhelming.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

Especially when the “test” for covid was bullshit.

manc
manc
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
1 year ago

I am reliably informed by American media sources that Ukrainian forces have reached the town of Khimki, 30 miles from Moscow. Russian collapse is now inevitable, a mere matter of days.

Xman
Xman
Reply to  manc
1 year ago

Are they being led by Heinz Guderian?

Diversity Heretic
Member
Reply to  manc
1 year ago

I visited Khimki in 2016. Have the Ukrainians occupied the Ikea store yet?

TBC
TBC
1 year ago

Lies, damned lies, and statistics. I happen to love numbers, and especially statistics. But given the inherent racist nature of maff in general and statistics in particular, the very act of perpetrating Numbers While White will soon be deemed a crime. Espousing 1488 or noticing 13-does-50 can already get you fired and blackballed. Questioning six gorillion will get you gaoled in Europe, and soon enough here in the colonies, too. Calculation of BMI is rapidly becoming verboten due to disparate impact (women and minorities’ feelz hardest hit™). SAT/ACT results have been ditched by most colleges and universities by way of… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  TBC
1 year ago

Alas, Turing was a heauxmeaux and thus dwells in the Left’s Pantheon o’ Pervs.

Back o’ da bus for you, Bernhard Riemann!

Guest
Guest
Reply to  TBC
1 year ago

Artificial intelligence models are already being calibrated to ignore, deny, or falsify the most sensitive statistics. They all include guardrails, which are essentially programmed limits on what they can and cannot address. They impose limitations on source materials used to train the models to eliminate from consideration sources which might introduce politically inconvenient truths. And they “tune” models by overweighting some inputs at the expense of other inputs. I am convinced that the United States will become a third-tier ghetto for AI precisely because AI models produced in the US will generate results that are completely at odds with reality… Read more »

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Guest
1 year ago

South Korea has an even stronger culture of official dishonesty than America has. The Korean fraction of Korean-ness, the part that’s somewhat independent of globohomo, is literally a feminist cult. That’s why their celebrity “androgyny” is sexlessness, rather than Anglo tranny perversion. They’re natural conservatives! (Grillers also.) I’m sure I’ve mentioned that my Japanese friends hate how their popular media is dominated by imported Korean faggotry that nobody but little girls actually likes (because they consume whatever they’re fed). Meanwhile American normiecons talk about what solace they find in Netflix, because unlike cable it offers Americans the choice of Korean… Read more »

whatever2020
whatever2020
Member
Reply to  Hemid
1 year ago

South Korea conservatives are impressive. First off, their success at establishing their own version of celebrity androgyny as the unassailable standard of their society’s digital distraction from reality/false reality (an unwavering globohomo requirement). Conservative, Inc. should find this much preferable, by an enormous margin, to our tranny freak show that is really nothing more than a digitized data-scrubbed/CGI version of the actual traveling circus carny midway freak shows of prior centuries. From there, firmly establishing conservatism as, in and of itself, an actual feminist cult is the true outstanding achievement. This feature is what, more than any other feature, defines… Read more »

DLS
DLS
Reply to  TBC
1 year ago

It’s hard to keep up, but for the record it’s now 13-does-60.

Junger Generation
Junger Generation
Reply to  DLS
1 year ago

It was 13 does 58 consistently for many, many years and then BLM ramped it up to even >60. And forget about 13m illegals, it’s most likely >25m now (see Yale study in 2018 when they said it was 22m).

Wallenstein
Wallenstein
Reply to  Junger Generation
1 year ago

A lot of white crime is committed by people who are not white.

Compsci
Compsci
1 year ago

“They certainly would not have every white woman paired with a black guy.”

So you’ve noticed too? 😉 Seriously however, the real question—which addresses your observation—is why White women/Black man pairing is so much higher than White man/Black women pairing. Hint: It’s not because of audience ratings.

The miscegenation depicted is solely designed to demoralize “White males” and aimed therefore at the destruction of the White race. The opposite pairing does not work this way as it is unbelievable and in any event does not strike (psychologically) at the masculinity of the White male patriarchal figure.

Mr C
Mr C
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

Fair amount of car commercials with weak white men sitting in the passenger seat while their strong black lady “partner” drives.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Mr C
1 year ago

I don’t enjoy most modern movies, but I did enjoy some of the new James Bond movies, with that Craig guy. A few years ago, I decided to treat myself with one of the new Bond movies that I hadn’t seen yet. The title had “quantum” in it. In the first scene, Bond is being flown around by an ace helicopter pilot who is a sassy black woman. Later, she is driving a motorcycle with Bond holding on to her. Turned the movie off. I simply cannot suspend my disbelief or ignore another deliberate attempt to diminish me and my… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

That was No Time to Die, the most recent Bond film. The character’s name was Nomie and she was played by the hideous–and obnoxious–Lashanna Lynch. The movie itself is not too bad, but the presence of the almighty sheboon degrades it substantially.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Mr C
1 year ago

That’s why it is not as effective. What self-respecting White .an sees himself as the soi boy in that commercial? Having our beautiful White women coal chasing cuts deeper ( if you fall for it, and too many do).

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

It’s also because women are more easily manipulated than men. Their biology makes them hyper-aware of what’s in and out with the tribe. Media tells them what the tribe is thinking.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

The Web, on unionized female teachers (teaching boys – and soon, judges, lawyers, screenwriters, politicians, bureaucrats, experts, court astrologers, etc.)

“there’s no avoiding this as women will always be women, and Millennial & Gen-Z males have been feminized to the point that they don’t recognize objective truths (Aspergers excepted), instead believing what everyone else in the tribe believes. Hurting of feelings will not be tolerated because deep in their New Millennium feminine souls they believe that what is correct is what the consensus says is correct.”

Girls and yoofs:
Math is hard.

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

To be fair, if you were a black dude, you’d want a fine lookin white wammen to be with.

After several decades on the West Side, I learned that black chicks are basically feral animals.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
1 year ago

“After several decades on the West Side, I learned that black chicks are basically feral animals.”

A perfect match for negro males, then.

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
1 year ago

All women are “feral animals.” Don’t kid yourself.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
1 year ago

Five years ago or so, Google couldn’t get its photo analyzing algorithms to stop categorizing blacks as gorillas. As far as I know, it remains an unsolved problem.

This resemblance is simply objectively true. It’s no one’s fault. But because we’re supposed to pretend we don’t notice or understand, it makes me laugh.

As I’ve gotten more honest with myself about racial issues, I find many black women in particular painful and disgusting to even look at. I have to turn away.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

You can find the article over at Unz under author James Thompson. Thompson is a retired Prof in London. He often analyses new scientific publications wrt race and IQ. About a year or so ago, he explained a paper in detail in which skeletal x-rays were classified into one of the 4 main racial categories by AI without (IIRC) a miss!

So much for race being a social construct.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

Whenever a negro is walking toward me on a street, I cross over to the other side. And it’s not because of fear…

Brandon Laskow
Brandon Laskow
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

Yes, the reason that mentioning Negros and primates in the same sentence is such a horrible thing to do is that everyone knows there is some truth to it.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Brandon Laskow
1 year ago

Hence Howard Cosell very nearly getting unpersoned back around 1985 for calling Washington Redskin receiver Gary Clark a “tough little monkey.”

The Left has always had a horror of people, even inadvertantly, drawing attention to uncomfortable truths.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

Cue Letitia James.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

Quite right. The destruction of white masculinity (“toxic” masculinity) is arguably at the heart of the Left’s anti-white project. If white men are no longer willing to defend themselves, their women and their people, then the white race lies naked before those who seek to annihilate it.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

True enough, but in actuality it is much more common for a black man to be with a white woman than the reverse. A fat white woman can get a reasonably attractive black man because white is higher valued and they like fat asses anyway. But not even fat unattractive white men want black women.

ClimateChangs
ClimateChangs
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

A popular Diss-Right graybeard wrote in a mainstream con outlet like 30 yrs ago that, based on his own informal email correspondence with a few of them, that lovelorn brown sugars seem to “really, really like black men” (paraphrase); with 30% of whom at marriage age having having a criminal record, etc. I don’t think what men of any race want or don’t has much to do with this— that is the story of our species. Paul Krugman used to brag about his black wife (just a for-instance, since we all know someone like that). Now, I’m sure that bit… Read more »

TomA
TomA
1 year ago

What are the stages of revelation on the road into the DR? First is probably an understanding that the system is fundamentally and comprehensively broken, as manifest in the loss of trust stated in today’s post. Second is likely to be the epiphany that voting harder is a fools errand and we are not going to talk our way out of the mess we’re in. Third could be that we are being led astray by a relatively small number of power-players with nefarious purpose. Has the West ever been more poorly lacking in real leadership as in the present? Fourth… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

“Experts” and other such media personages are motivated with clear consciences to knowingly lie, because it must be done to support the regime which is the only thing standing between us and the Bad Orange Man. Thus the lying is not only necessary but moral and righteous. For without it, “democracy” could be overthrown, and “fascism” or “nazism,” or worst of all “racism” might triumph. Accompanied by “anti semitism.” And what is a little lie about numbers, or a few extra mail in ballots, compared with all that evil.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

The Left was lying monolithically long before BOM commenced saying mean things about the Power Structure. BOM is merely an epiphenomenon, albeit an important one.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

You could say that he kind of immanentized their eschaton (unwittingly)

Chad
Chad
1 year ago

I’d compound the problem in that since money is no longer tied to a commodity thinking about it sinks into abstraction. Throw in some MMT charlatans and you can’t even convince the average person that there are terrible decisions that are going to be forced at some point in the future. So why don’t people care when you tell them about crushing debt while your government continues to send vast sums of money overseas? Because they generally fall into two camps: 1. Money doesn’t cost anything 2. The burden won’t fall on me So it’s not that 30 Trillion isn’t… Read more »

Filthie
Filthie
Member
Reply to  Chad
1 year ago

Just so, Chad. This regime imposing all of this on us has to die. Even if we wanted to save it – it’s doomed. The fixes are incredibly simple, stripped of the Marxist non-math, the fake stats, and the economic oracles. The economy will turn on a dime by – throwing the jews and their fart catchers out of our financial system – tying the currency to gold – restoring meritocracy – maintaining a reasonably fair marketplace and banking system. Vladimir Putin did all that and now the BRICS beat a path to his door. The world will follow. UNLESS… Read more »

WillS
WillS
Reply to  Chad
1 year ago

1. Money doesn’t cost anything
2. The burden won’t fall on me

People are basically stupid is my take on your point.

Mow Knowname
Mow Knowname
1 year ago

Another wacky take from our host.

Next, he’ll write that Joe Biden isn’t the most popular president ever, Global Warming didn’t render the entire eastern seaboard uninhabitable and Covid didn’t kill me.

My entire unvaxxed family is dead from Covid and I died at least twice, so far as I can remember (although it may have been racism).

Chet Rollins
Reply to  Mow Knowname
1 year ago

It’s hilarious seeing the left tut-tutting the right on mocking the brutal deaths of progressive idiots after what they made us go through during Covid. The right isn’t listening anymore, which means things are going to get very nasty, very fast.

Whitney
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 year ago

Yeah they have no self-awareness but it’s really why they win isn’t it. They wished poverty and death on us for years and now we’re bad people for not mourning their dead

Filthie
Filthie
Member
Reply to  Whitney
1 year ago

HAR HAR HAR! Well… there might be something to that, W!

A lot of us are celebrating and laughing. VERY insensitive, dontchya know!!! 🙂 It HAS been a couple good weeks in that regard.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Whitney
1 year ago

I assume we’re referring to that idiot Ryan Thoreson who got shanked in Bed-Stuy at 4 a.m. by one of his pet negroes. Good riddance. He got exactly what he deserved. My only regret is that he didn’t take the Hutu with him. Two pieces of human refuse in the rubbish bin would have been better than one.

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

Seriously look at the pictures of that couple. I think I’d stab him (in minecraft of course) and I’m not even a deranged jigaboo.

The dude’s got fucking round 1930s chinaman spectacles, a ginger broccoli hairdo, those faggy millennial arm tattoos and his beard looks like a irish whore’s murkin. The woman is one of those spicy laaa(phlegm)hhteeeeenyxxxes with a pissy expression and of course those millennial arm tattoos again. There couldn’t possibly be a more stereotypical caricature of a pair of revolting shitlibs.

btp
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 year ago

News: White person brutally slaughtered by feral black.

Me: Well, that might be an outrage or it might be outrageously funny. I’d have to know more about the victim.

News: A tech entrepreneur devoted to BLM

Me: lol. lmao.

Brandon Laskow
Brandon Laskow
Reply to  btp
1 year ago

And then there was the fudgepacker who was a vocal advocate for the “marginalized”, railed against “white supremacy” and mocked the very accurate perception that Philadelphia is a crime-ridden hellhole. He was murdered in his own Philly apartment and there is rumors that it was related to a drug deal and/or turned trick gone bad, that he didn’t pay for one or the other.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 year ago

Chet: This goes along with Zman’s post about how death has become an abstraction at best, or on the other extreme a nebulous yet pervasive terror. For most of 2020 I was told I was going to die because of reasons I mocked and ignored, and how awful I was to laugh about the lack of piles of bodies in the streets. I needed to be sent to a camp for not believing the world had to halt because someone’s 84 year-old grandma with heart disease died from the flu. And now, when I shrug at the death of yet… Read more »

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

Well darn 3g,

I was going to comment on the thread but you summed everything up more articulately than I could 🙂.

“I don’t care that Feinstein (old, sick, and evil) died. I don’t care that the Puerto ricans and Dominicans in New York don’t like the Hondurans and Guatemalans flooding in. Car wreck and a bunch of immivaders died? Meh. Pregnant jogger shot? One fewer future predator to deal with.”

This exactly.

Chimeral
Chimeral
Reply to  Tired Citizen
1 year ago

Now fit “abortion” into that paradigm.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

Post of The Day/Week/Month/Year.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

Ironically, that lost of trust comes right when the numbers really are starting to matter. The number of white workers is falling fast as a percent of the workforce, replaced by far less competent, conscientious non-whites (and similar young whites). This will make society much less efficient. Brazil is no longer our future but is showing up in patches across the country, and those patches will grow until the old America becomes only patches here and there. The debt and deficits are reaching levels that are stretching the bond market. An estimated $7.5 trillion of current govt debt will rollover… Read more »

Chet Rollins
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

On the fence whether financial collapse would be a good or bad thing. On the plus side, it would create an incredible freedom of movement for our side as the money spigot dries up on the NGO and tech network set up to keep us in our pens. The downside is, of course, complete destruction of quality of life for at least a generation and the quite real risk of us losing completely.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 year ago

Hard to say how all of this will play out. As long as there’s enough buyers of US gov debt, the plates will keep spinning. But once a country goes over 100% debt to GDP, things usually get messy. Part of it, of course, is the size of the debt, but the other side is that a country has to be poorly led to get in that situation in the first place. A well-managed, united country probably could work its way out of the situation, just as the US did after WWII. I don’t see that happening this time. Also,… Read more »

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

Cerebral post as usual.

“A well-managed, united country probably could work its way out of the situation, just as the US did after WWII. I don’t see that happening this time.”

It certainly is not happening. I would be willing to bet that most “americans” now couldn’t tell you where “government money” even comes from. Very similar to Z’s comment the other day about how most of the retards amongst us don’t know where food comes from. “It come from da sto!”.

The shitlibs I know think free stuff comes from “the government”.

We truly are a third world country.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Tired Citizen
1 year ago

Tired Citizen: I just mentioned to my husband that “most people are too stupid to live.” There’s an amusing headline at the Daily Mail about what was billed as a tech conference for women having been infiltrated by a large number of male attendees (who all claimed to be transgender). One early comment was “You wanted this.” Lots of furious and clueless replies. Not one even mentioned how all the men’s clubs and organizations in decades past were protested and infiltrated and banned by women in the name of equality. But, of course, simultaneously, women deserved to have ‘their own’… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

But it may be that convenience alone is the carrying factor.

Let’s say even if the former US balkanizes, informally by state compact or formally á la Yugoslavia…

How is a corn grower in Trashcanistan going to sell his crop to a corn drier facility in Subserbia? What if the corn drier needs aluminium stock from the Kingdom of Detroy?

How will cross-trade be settled in such turbulence without a standard of convenience?

I’d argue that the dollar, and the nefarious plans attached to it, will continue for a long while.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

The dollar isn’t going anywhere for a long time.

Now, the treasury as the global reserve asset is another matter. That’s where the fight is happening.

Brandon Laskow
Brandon Laskow
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

Responding to 3g4me, for some reason there’s no Reply button to her comment:

To be precise, the men who attended that event claimed to be non-binary, whatever that means, not transgender. But what makes this incident even more delightful is that the majority of the men appear to be a species of “people of color”, subcontinental and east Asian.

Talk about being hoisted on ones own petard…

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

Yes. Moreover, we were the only industrial nation left standing. The 50s and early 60s America crushed because we had no competitors. Then we lent Germany and Japan money and secured the sea lanes. The competition arrived and it seems our, “leadership”, threw in the towel on competing. America First started with the industrial class saying Buy American. The Clouds split with conspicuous consumption of Benzes, Beamers and Lexuses. The transformation of the American homogeny/hegemony on our roads from the early 70s to the mid eighties foreshadowed the demographic transformation. Sadly, the new meat sacks are not in the same… Read more »

btp
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 year ago

It’s really how you envision a loss of police power over daily life. Back the Blue types see the idea as disturbing because they imagine the police to be keeping the thin veneer of civilization intact.

But… how to say? Well, have a look at that video of the NY soy boy getting knifed. Can I just say, I don’t see myself as the white guy in that situation.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

I have thought that the media/political attention devoted to “fixing” social security is misdirection from the larger problem of medicare, which is in worse shape and will present problems sooner than ss will. Nobody but nobody wants to address it, because there is no incentive or upside in doing so. You don’t win any votes by saying it’s time to cut medicare. So what will happen, as I have predicted for years now, and I’ll eventually be right, is that Congress, in one of its late night sessions, with no public discussion prior, will suddenly raise the eligibility age. And… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Medicare and Medicaid are a big issue. The biggest issues is that you can’t print your way out of those obligations. You have promised medical services, not dollars. Printing more dollars doesn’t create more doctors, nurses, hospitals, etc. So, yes, there’s only one way out – raise the eligibility age, raise Medicare premiums, increase deductibles, but even all of that won’t change the equation that much. Most elderly don’t have much money. You can’t get blood from a stone. Fine, raise the Medicare age from 65 to 68 or 70. It helps but doesn’t move the needle that much. Our… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

We need to end the empire. The DOD got 1.8t trillion Dollars in 2023. It is the empire that bankrupted the US, not entitlements. Had we not blew the huge surpluses SS generated from its inception until a few years ago, it would be perfectly solvent. The US government would have more than enough in savings During the 100% fake budget surpluses (we have not run a surplus since the early 60s) around the turn of the century, Bush went and created the prescription part of medicare, making the problem far worse. It wouldn’t surprise me if prescription medicine prices… Read more »

James Proverbs
James Proverbs
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

The wholesale pillaging of GenX retirement accounts is coming. That’s their ace in the hole.
From each too each and all that…

Mycale
Mycale
Reply to  James Proverbs
1 year ago

I agree with those on this site who say that Sailer has become a mostly useless curmudgeon who spends his time whining about useless distractions (like “World War Hair” which he talked about today), but he is dead on when he says that when they are looking for equity, they are looking for the equity in your home, and your retirement account. You’ll read articles constantly about the discrepancy between the retirement savings of blacks vs. whites, etc., and that’s just priming the pump…

McLeod
McLeod
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

“The Number of white workers is falling fast as a percent of the workforce, replaced by far less competent, conscientious non-whites” The number of male workers is falling fast as a percent of the workforce, replaced by far less competent, conscientious women. I would take a one for one trade of Becky for Jose in a heartbeat. I am a civil engineer and I am surrounded by “Planners”, “Environmental Specialists”, and “Project Coordinators” that are all women. I’d be willing to accept having them in the workforce if they did nothing, but they don’t, they get in way. Just this… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

“ Where are those buyers going to come from? ”

Not that I think this will work, but the Fed Res will buy those Treasury securities—unless the merge both together. At that point, there can be no hiding the fact and the currency collapses.

It’s not “Brazil here we come”, it’s “Zimbabwe here we come”. But I can’t hold a candle to Citizen’s knowledge in these matters—so take it for what it’s worth.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

Social Security is a relatively easy fix with means testing, eliminating the income cap and raising the retirement age for people under 40. I am not advocating these, but just doing the math. Medicare on the other hand, is an unsolvable issue without severe rationing.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  DLS
1 year ago

It’s an easy fix, you are correct. But even better, it needs no fixing (since our government can’t get together to fix anything these days). SSI simply goes “broke” and distributes all incoming funds minus shortfall. Currently estimated at about a 25% haircut across the board for every recipient. This is a matter of current law and needs no enactment.

Ouch, but it would be more honest than simply turning up the money printing presses.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  DLS
1 year ago

The vast majority: Well over 50%. I’ve seen 80% quoted, of a persons Medicare expenses are incurred in the final couple of months.
There’s a fix for that.

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
1 year ago

The GDP fetish is the prime example of this bogus “Numbers” phenomenon: 1) Borrow money from China, spend it in Ukraine creating shell craters and magically, US GDP goes up. (Poor Simon Kuznets, the father of GDP/national income accounting, is rolling in his grave). War is the perfect, classic example of unproductive spending. 2) Borrow money from China, give it to LaQueesha for AFDC, she spends the money on Cheetos at Wawa, and GDP goes up. 3) Julio and Lupita cross the border, get $15/hr jobs off the books, get welfare on the books, send 1/3 of their “paycheck” (usually… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Captain Willard
1 year ago

GDP is a dumb way of keeping track of economic income. GDP is loaded up with all kinds of fake stuff in addition to the stuff you listed. Things like homeowner’s rent, free bank accounts, free google accounts etc. Blowing money on hookers and blow is given the same weight as someone buying their trade’s tools. The GDP deflator is too low and so a decent portion of “GDP growth” is just inflation. And it compounds. Somehow, despite near constant GDP growth in the 21st century, everyone has gotten poorer.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

Except for the top .1%. Curious.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

Tatted up dykes with a face full of fishing tackle selling blue check marks constitutes National Production.

Winter
Winter
Reply to  Captain Willard
1 year ago

Those are great examples. And while we’re at it, let’s consider that about 17% of the GDP represents healthcare spending, which is hitting white working people the hardest.

Illegals and welfare recipients get greatly subsidized care, while heritage Americans are struggling to pay for mediocre insurance. These days, it’s not uncommon for working families to pay over $20,000 a year just for insurance premiums. And that’s before a single doctor visit or procedure. This does not include dental.

But hey, it’s all part of the GDP, so yee-ha.

My Comment
My Comment
1 year ago

Besides the general corruption of the data, the era of numbers came to an end due to: 1. The culture becoming feminized. Numbers are male. Feelings are female. If it feels right, it is right. 2. Social media. To have any impact numbers have to be analyzed and reflected upon. Likes and trends on social media are better driven by emotionally impactful memes and taking points that enable you to demonstrate that you are a good smart person by liking them and getting liked (also very female). 3. The only numbers that matter to our replacements are related directly their… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

“A line of people with impressive sounding credentials provided the math of this claim.” It’s funny because a 3rd grader could show the same thing using basic arithmetic. Using the metric of GDP, the government can always increase the economy by spending more money. It could expand the economy by digging holes on Monday, Wednesday and Friday and filling them in on Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday and even pay OT for the Saturday fill ins. It is equally obvious that the feds spending a Dollar will ultimately generate more than a Dollar in “economic activity” where GDP is how it… Read more »

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

I didn’t see your comment while I was writing mine. So consider mine a “companion piece” to yours lol.

TJMaxx
TJMaxx
1 year ago

I worked in corporate finance for many years. Retired now. First, it was net income. Then EBITDA became important as if a company didn’t really have to pay interest or taxes. Then it became things like EBITDAR (earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and restructuring costs). After awhile, companies would throw all sorts of expenses into a formula to come up with a number to show that without all these expenses, the company and its management were actually doing well and the bank should lend them money. Things became so clouded that it wasn’t easy to sift through all the garbage.… Read more »

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
Reply to  TJMaxx
1 year ago

Since you retired, we invented “adjusted” EBITDAR and also “adjusted” EPS (removing stock-based compensation) for public companies. I spend fully 10% of my time trying to make my younger team members aware of all the tricks.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Captain Willard
1 year ago

Numbers lads, when I used to think like a normal person, I found banking and accounting fascinating.

I’ve just started this long piece from WRSA; I hate to ask, but I think you fellas might find this a wee bit interesting.

It’s on “The Great Taking” beginning in the Dubya-9/11 years.

httpX://img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/1ee786fb-3c78-4903-9701-d614892d09d6/taking-june21-web.pdf

(httpX to avoid the spam filter)

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

It is more than interesting. I took the time to read the entire piece (except for the appendix, from whose contents the author selected relevant passages for inclusion in the main body of the text). The author certainly had all of the relevant knowledge and high level experiences to have reached the conclusions that he does in the end. A lot of the details are beyond my experience, but I could certainly unhesitatingly credit the validity of his argument despite this shortcoming on my part, so clear as it was to me in the recounting even so. While much of… Read more »

DLS
DLS
Reply to  TJMaxx
1 year ago

Yep, just like inflation is under control unless you want to eat, live indoors, wear clothes, or go anywhere.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  TJMaxx
1 year ago

When I started in corporate finance, EVA (economic value added) was all the rage. It was basically ROI for people who can’t divide.

Felix Krull
Member
1 year ago

What is the current projected federal deficit?

You talk like a faggot and your shit’s all retarded.

Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 year ago

“WE GOT THIS GUY NOT SURE…”

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
1 year ago

On the subject of numbers, too many people. Post-covid, I finally have to accept it. Too many people who wouldn’t have made it to adulthood, or who would’ve collected their Darwin awards soon enough. Idiocracy was a funny movie, dead-serious prophecy in retrospect.

Shrinking Violet
Shrinking Violet
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 year ago

Yes and no. Too many POC pouring into White western countries for the gibs. But a dwindling supply of the legacy white population that made those gibs possible. Obviously, A disaster.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Shrinking Violet
1 year ago

I’m against the people farming. Mass immigration you speak of is a prime example. Inner Ice Man says a million hardened men beat 100 million slobs every time lol. Science brings the gibs, applying science to society amounts to people farming, out of and by necessity. Better to stay closer to nature, and let God sort it out imo.

Melissa
Melissa
1 year ago

I’m not sure who the Russian equivalent of the Director, integrated public alert and warning system might be at the Ministry of Emergency Situations. He’s undoubtedly quite different from Antwone Johnson.
This GAE doesn’t have a chance.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Melissa
1 year ago

This is by design. Time to roll it up, and for the “Deserving People” to sweep their winnings off the table.

Chet Rollins
1 year ago

> When some new personality bursts on the scene claiming to have a huge audience, but no one you know heard of the guy until last week Lex Friedman is the most gratuitous example I’ve ever seen. All of the sudden every media outlet was in lockstep promoting the guy. When he posted the 50 books he was going to read, which were all staples of the Western Canon, my eyes rolled to the back of my head. It isn’t that the books are bad, but you can always tell a mass produced guy by his intellectual interests, which are… Read more »

Chet Rollins
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

At least Hanania is interesting. His article on the how corporate culture was simply the execution of the Civil Rights Act is the best summary of the topic I’ve ever read.

https://www.richardhanania.com/p/woke-institutions-is-just-civil-rights

No, it wasn’t completely unique, but the most accessible to people who will not read a 400 page book. Whoever is paying him at least is willing to tolerate some edginess.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

I’m reading his “Origins of Woke”. So far, I’ve not found anything to disagree with. It comports with my experience. Am I lacking in some knowledge area because I like this piece of work by this man?

ClimateChangs
ClimateChangs
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

Well, he is a glib summarizer who resembles nothing so much as the New, Edgy David Brooks, therefore always will come across 10%-90% cute-loathesome. That makes him seem like a plant, even if it is really the organic opinionating voice meeting market demand.

He’s probably an inferior writing stylist to Brooks (who wasn’t exactly Montaigne) but to be fair I’ve not seen any non-polemical sample that didn’t slop out as a “stack.”

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 year ago

Lex is just bizarre.

How is he doing deep research at MIT if he’s spending all his time on his podcast?

Valley Lurker
Valley Lurker
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 year ago

Isn’t he actually not associated with MIT other than having given a lecturer(s) there before? As in not an actual prof or researcher for them? That the MIT aspect of things is just marketing/ personal astroturf.

I could be mistaken but I recall hearing that somewhere.

LexListener
LexListener
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 year ago

He gets interviews with top-level scientists and mathematicians: a more interesting guest list than any major TV shows I’m aware of. I listen to his podcast for that reason. I have to say though while he’s certainly not a *worse* interviewer than a Charlie Rose or, worse, some bimbo, but he’s not tremendously better. Given the level of guests he brings on, and his supposed MIT computer science background, I would expect better questions. I guess the question I have is why Lex Fridman is the only guy out there getting these tremendous interviews, and nobody else. Nothing against the… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  LexListener
1 year ago

With a name like Friedman, he can only be Thai…

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 year ago

There are levels to every midwit exit ramp. For people whom we commonly call conservatives, there’s level 1: Fox News. I call this the Normie Right. For the ones that think Fox is fake news, there’s level 2: pat-con channels like NewsMax or those channels on YouTube where burly guys with flags do the pat-con thing. Lots of Irish in this bucket. I call this the Irish Right. For people who fancy themselves Thinkers and open-minded outside-the-box right-of-center types, there’s the gatekeepers of the online right, or level 3: Shapiro, Crowder, Fridman, Walsh, Candace O, and all the way down… Read more »

george 1
george 1
Reply to  Marko
1 year ago

I resemble that remark Marko. Not that I am all that smart. I probably lingered too long at level 3.

What a waste of time.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  george 1
1 year ago

Same. It took Zman to beat the DR3/NAXALT out of me.

Snooze
Snooze
Reply to  Marko
1 year ago

Level 4: no Balance of Nature, no get out of your time share.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Marko
1 year ago

I think level 4 also has a defining aspect—biological reality, or “Race Realism”. A subject that is taboo, ignored, suppressed up to and including level 3. But I admit, HBD science is my hobby horse so I’ll burden you no longer.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

The last divide is right there.

Does the forbidden/obvious tell you that the present order is correct except for its behaving as if in ignorance of “HBD,” and a properly informed, rhetorically honest, biological-realist reform program could repair its faults? You’re with Sailer, Spencer et al. Hierarchy, because desirable, is presumed innocent/correct. Its errors are *errors*. Taylor Lorenz rules you by right.

Or—

Does the forbidden/obvious tell you that the extant hierarchy is wholly deranged from top to bottom—in purpose and personnel, down to the last tranny meter maid?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 year ago

On the contrary, nothing is more offensive than staples of the Western canon. In fact, that canon, in literature, music and art, is being diversified and perverted out of existence.

WhereAreTheVikings
WhereAreTheVikings
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 year ago

The first time I heard Lex Friedman, I honest-to-God thought someone was putting on a parody of talk shows, he sounded so literally retarded. I listened one or two more times and my take didn’t change much.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
1 year ago

“There is a bigger issue that applies to all the numbers. Decades of lying about the numbers have made all of them suspect. The totally fake economic data pumped out in the Obama years sunk the credibility of the court wizards.” It started with Clinton. That scumbag changed the way inflation was calculated, partly to stiff social security recipients who receive a cost of living adjustment that is tied to the official inflation number (consumer price index). The GDP figures are even more untethered from any sort of reality, and likewise for “growth.” People with solemn faces keep talking about… Read more »

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Arshad Ali
1 year ago

Just to add to your post, during the Clinton years, the way unemployment was calculated also changed.

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
Reply to  Arshad Ali
1 year ago

You will dream of the good old days of Clinton at the rate things are going now. His last budget was balanced IIRC….

WillS
WillS
Reply to  Captain Willard
1 year ago

If you look at a debt by year chart it has not been balanced in the last 50+ years.
They don’t include interest payments. How can you have a balanced budget if you don’t pay all you your bills? More lies.
Interest is only in the trillion dollar range.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Captain Willard
1 year ago

I think the worst of Clinton but really that rework of inflation was inevitable after everything was set to auto-increase to inflation. It wouldn’t have mattered who was president (note that, if anything, the calcs for inflation and unemployment got worse under W. Bush).

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Captain Willard
1 year ago

That was entirely due to taxes on the dotcom and housing bubbles. It took the lizards a year or so to spend the taxes and a few more for the bubbles to burst.

Herrman
Herrman
Member
1 year ago

They lie, we know they lie, they know we know they lie, and they lie anyway. The republic form of government we had could not survive in a low-trust society and is now gone. What foul beast crawling from the swamp will take its place remains to be seen, but I’m betting it’s not one where individual rights and liberty are considered unalienable.

What’s really disturbing is none of what I said is an original thought. Our epitaph may well be: “they knew, and did it anyway”.

David Wright
Member
1 year ago

Sounds like life in the Soviet Union. Apathy with an extremely jaded view of life seems to be the only way to navigate. Everything in government or media that is thrown in my face I react with extreme skepticism or disgust. Paid shills in the media with ratings that seem like they come from public access tv are promoted to worthy spokespeople. Maybe that’s where they want us. Still, given an opportunity to blow back or publicly counter them if the opportunity arrises is still there. Small rebellions is all that is left for now and we should take advantage… Read more »

Mycale
Mycale
Reply to  David Wright
1 year ago

Every month the unemployment report comes out and says the economy is still surging. This report consistently defies the private company data (which in the past it correlated strongly to) and analyst estimates. Same with the GDP numbers. We hear then from the usual media outlets about how we are too stupid for not accepting the genius of Bidenomics. Then every quarter, without fail, those numbers get quietly revised down. The revisions are reported about 1/1000th as much, and nobody wonders about the probability of these numbers being revised down every single time. You’d expect some revisions up and some… Read more »

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Mycale
1 year ago

I suspect the ballyhooed employment statistics are geared to facilitate the argument more immigrants are needed to fill jobs and to keep devaluing the dollar. There may be a secret stash of magic money to keep people home and unemployed but so far evidence of it has not emerged.

David Wright
Member
Reply to  Mycale
1 year ago

Thanks to some diligent youtubers with their walkthroughs in grocery stores, we can gather some real inflation results. It ain’t pretty and we are being egregiously lied to.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Mycale
1 year ago

Usually follow the double rule with government – e.g, if official report says 7% inflation, real inflation is probably closer to 14% if not worse.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
1 year ago

Three hundred billion is a tragedy. Thirty-three trillion is a statistic.

Mycale
Mycale
1 year ago

The history of the 20th century is that elites used “science” as a way to control us. “The science” says that there is no God, we all just became something when nothing blew up a long time ago, so don’t you feel a little dumb going to church every Sunday and abiding by their rules? Likewise, they turned economics into a “science”, even inventing a fake Nobel Prize for the discipline, showing how absolutely important it was that they establish its import. Then they awarded the fake Nobel to the economists who said that we need globalization, open borders, low… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Mycale
1 year ago

Not for nothing is economics called the dismal science. Personally, I pay it no nevermind.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Mycale
1 year ago

If you want to see a progressive stutter and then go quiet, the next time he says climate change or vaccines or whatever are based on science, drill into where they got their science. What scientists or studies did you review? Are there any dissenting scientists? The response will be some gibberish about the consensus. But where did you learn of this consensus and who does it include? It always comes back to some liberal news outlet quoting government sponsored scientists and ignoring dissent, which then becomes a talking point. Yes, I know this does no good, and the progressive… Read more »

Chimeral
Chimeral
1 year ago

Read, The Book of Numbers by Aaron Clarey, in the vein if today’s post.