Charles Haywood of Worthy House has a post up explaining and defending his concept of “No Enemies On The Right”, which he originally formulated as “No Enemies To The Right” last December. He used that original phrase when discussing the jihad led by Rod Dreher against a schoolteacher who was accused of heresy. Dreher was doing his Christian piety act to both attack someone who could not defend himself and to curry favor with the people he pretends to oppose.
Dreher panicked when Haywood used the phrase “No Enemies To The Right” because it would be very bad for business if people embraced it. Like everyone in for-hire conservative politics, Dreher exists to attack people to his right. That is his reason to exist and why rich people fund his operations. What we insist on calling the Right in America is primarily a policing operation. They impose the morality of the Left on the rabble that the Right is charged with keeping at bay.
Over the last year, Haywood has defended his original argument, refining it as necessary, in response to criticism. Haywood has no interest in becoming the Emily Post of right-wing politics, but his continuing work on this concept is producing something like a rulebook of right-wing etiquette. His ten-point outline for what he means by “No Enemies On The Right” should be viewed as a useful guide for discourse between the various groups in dissident politics.
The slogan “No Enemies On The Right” is not new to Haywood. Those around way back in the alt-right days, which feels like a lifetime ago now, will recall this was a slogan with some of the more popular figures in that space. In fact, it was the motivation for organizing the Unite The Right rally in Charlottesville. The idea was to both bring everyone together but also break the pattern of the Left pitting one group against the other to enforce their moral code.
Amusingly, before the alt-right used the term, it was a popular way for the neocons to stamp out dissent during the Bush presidency. They argued in the runup to the 2004 election that their war plans were too important to let the many lies of the Bush administration divide the Right. Their basic argument was “Sure, Bush is Lyndon Johnson, but the Democrats are worse, so you have to hold your nose and vote for the guy who is the opposite of what we promised.”
Of course, like everything political on the Right, this concept has been lifted from the Left, which coined the term “No Enemies to the Left” during the French Revolution for the same reason Haywood is promoting his version today. Opposing the King and the aristocracy was too important to let petty squabbles drive the many opponents of the regime into the ghetto of endless quarreling. Overthrow the system first then everyone can argue about what comes next.
There is an obvious appeal in this age. The one thing everyone outside the political class can agree upon is the system now only works to serve the interest of the people at the upper reaches of the system. There is a zero-sum game mindset in the ruling class where they assume what is good for them is bad for the people, so what is bad for the people must be good for them. The result is a system run by people who hate the people over whom they rule.
The logical answer is to hate them back. Since the people have numbers, the only way to use this advantage is to unite enough people under an opposition banner that has as its singular goal the removal of the ruling class. This is why this idea terrifies the house slaves of Conservative Inc. They know exactly what this means, which is the toppling of the people who keep them in the lifestyle they think they deserve. From the point of view of people like Rod Dreher, it is Only Enemies On The Right.
There is another advantage to this mode of thought. It forces clarity on the politics of dissent that helps flush out the poseurs and profiteers. Those committed to the larger project will refuse to condemn anyone on their side for crimes against the regime or regime orthodoxy. At most they remain silent. The poseurs and profiteers are always quick to point their bony finger at someone and condemn him for violating the morality of the opposition, like you see with Rod Dreher.
There is one major flaw with the “No Enemies On The Right” concept. It makes it difficult to police the ranks for lunatics and crackpots. Populist politics has always struggled with the weirdo problem precisely because it is unwilling to criticize anyone willing to join the fight against the Left. You can chant “No Enemies On The Right!” until you are blue in the face, but you must have some way to filter out the lunatics or you end up being defined by them.
There is also the problem of what constitutes the Right. The drug addled Antifa marchers oppose the system, but they are not of the Right. Jimmy Dore, the old school progressive comic, opposes the regime, but he is a socialist. The Grey Zone people oppose the America military machine, but they are communists. There has to be something more than opposition to the Left or you end up putting a leash around your neck and handing the other end to people you hate.
This leads to the third problem, which Haywood addresses in his seventh item in his list of “Tenets of NEOTR.” Disagreement is vital for any opposition to the regime as this is the only way to improve the opposition. Ideas need to be debated and that often results in hurt feelings, which leads to public disputes. Chanting “No Enemies On The Right” in these times will just alienate the people in the dispute. There needs to be a way to argue but in a way that keeps the focus on the enemy.
Finally, there is no escaping the fact that this is not a new idea and prior efforts at practicing it have failed. There is a reason it has failed. The main reason is the people chanting it were never really serious about it. Instead, they tended to use it as a shield to ward off criticism. This is how we got to Charlottesville. The way forward with this concept must be to go back and address the past failure. That means more discussion about “No Enemies On The Right” with the aim of getting it right.
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I’d love to hear what Haywood’s Caesar is going to do about the NAACP.
QUOTE: “Disagreement is vital for any opposition to the regime as this is the only way to improve the opposition. Ideas need to be debated and that often results in hurt feelings, …” I fear that there’s no avoiding this as women will always be women, and Millennial & Gen-Z males have been feminized to the point that they don’t recognize objective truths (Aspergers excepted), instead believing what everyone else in the tribe believes. Hurting of feelings will not be tolerated because deep in their New Millennium feminine souls they believe that what is correct is what the consensus says… Read more »
The Charlottesville protests were simply about not wanting classically beautiful statues torn down and replaced by modern art statues probably about bodily functions.
I deleted your podcast feed because you were constantly shitting on everyone else on the right…TRS, Fuentes, Spencer, etc. I hate to see infighting on the Right at all but you havent organized anyone or done anything so it’s worse coming from you.
I thought Z was the only guy not calling Fuentes a gay catboy fancier.
If I am understanding correctly, the concern is no enemies “to” vs “on” the right. Each has its benefits and problems. If forced to choose one or the other, I would go with “to” because it seems better to move squishes rightward.
I cannot stand that pretentious, self righteous prick Rod Dreher, or his compadre Kevin “let me cry a river” Williamson. When the shooting starts, I want Dreher’s non stop talking head on a pike, Vlad the Impaler style!
Right there with you, but I think Vlad the Impaler started at the other end.
“oh no racism is the greatest sin btw I’m moving to Eastern Europe”
For the weather?
Seems to me Haywood’s message of NEOTR is DOA. Matt Gaetz certainly didn’t get the message. Taking a page from TomA’s playbook, the time for talking is over. It presents no real solution. The only idea of Haywood’s that has any traction is his armed patronage networks. But, having learned that he engineered the creation of the multi-chapter Society for American Civic Renewal, I begin to wonder if this former Chicago lawyer turned shampoo magnate might now be a glowie. How many Oath Keepers and Proud Boys wish they hadn’t rushed to network IRL?
There needs to be a way to argue but in a way that keeps the focus on the enemy
Maybe rather than looking Left/Right, we should offer Above and Below. That is, no enemies below. We don’t have to tell the socialists and communists below what happens after the revolution, and keep them focused on the Above. Just spitballing.
To be fair, I am a bit of an Austrian School socialist myself.
What strikes me most about Haywood’s “No Enemies to the Right” is actually how easy it is to implement it in practice. Survivors of Buckley-esque conservatism have been programmed to denounce, denounce, denounce so it seems un-natural to just let crazies be crazies. While Trump had many failings, he actually showed how to implement this idea. I forget the exact details, but during the 2016 election the quintessential crazy David Duke came out to say he supported Trump. Some MSM bimbo asked Trump about it. The typical GOPe cuck would have prostrated himself and said “I denounce the Duke and… Read more »
The Right should follow the Sailer Strategy and be a one issue party for White rights and well-being and against attacks on White people by black and Hispanic criminals and White leftists through Affirmative Action, DEI, etc.
Does Sailer categorize j00z as being White?
Or did Ron Unz pay so much for Sailer’s gonads that Sailer doesn’t even have a say in the matter anymore?
I’d like to take this opportunity to say, “Mazel Tov!” to the JIDF agent assigned to downvoting me.
The Unz Review is basically an antisemitism Grand Central Station. The only commonality uniting his bizarre menagerie of kooks and bilge writers is their proleptic insistence on blaming the Jews for everything. This is by design; Ron Unz wants it this way. The Unz Review is a honeypot designed to attract alt-right troublemakers to one spot where they can be easily watched, manipulated, and corralled. Steve Sailer is the only writer there who isn’t a rabid Jew blamer, but he’s also a fake-and-gay douchebag who really showed his colors in his recent post scoffing at Matt Gaetz’s removal of McCarthy.,… Read more »
sin•is•ter | ˈsinəstər | adjective 1 giving the impression that something harmful or evil is happening or will happen: there was something sinister about that murmuring voice. • evil or criminal: there might be a more sinister motive behind the government’s actions. 2 archaic or Heraldry of, on, or toward the left-hand side (in a coat of arms, from the bearer’s point of view, i.e., the right as it is depicted). The opposite of dexter. dex•ter | ˈdekstər | adjective archaic or Heraldry of, on, or toward the right-hand side (in a coat of arms, from the bearer’s point of… Read more »
Fun fact, jews have the highest percentage of left handed people (~30%).
Mutational load
What are we trying to define here? Right and left? Or white and anti-white? As for the former, I care very little, and use those largely meaningless terms only for brevity, and will punch “right” whenever it suits me. For the latter, things get a lot more clear cut. NEOTR is how one ends up making common cause with people named Bush, McConnell, McCain, Haley et al. The war of fighting the “left” that way has already been lost. So that today, the notion of no enemies on the right is more a question of how the conquered peoples will… Read more »
This is the problem. NEOTR cuts both ways. Right now I am roflmao at the crocodile tears being shed for Frank Luntz’s boyfriend, especially from Newt Gingrich. Anybody remember Bob Michel? It was exactly the same thing.
With all respect to Haywood, we need a purge, not a group hug.
I think you have to figure out a couple core principles and use that for the friend-enemy distinction. I’d say our faction is pro-white and anti-oligarchy, so use that as the dividing line. So on the right we still have enemies of Con Inc and the establishment right (pro-oligarchy), and I would argue enemies of most of the Christian Right as they turn against whites as soon as they think they can get more brown people in their church.
Top form, Ploppy.
This says it all.
Right now I’m more focused on the anti-oligarchy part of the equation. Once the oligarchs are gone the scm that they are supporting will be powerless and lost. Then we can start on part 2 and maybe accomplish something.
The main problem with the Christian Right is their Zionism. Rabid support of Israel means war.
“Bush, McConnell, McCain, Haley et al”
This is the left.
Bush, McConnell, McCain, Haley, et al. were not, are not and never will be on the right. For the Right, therefore, they are irrelevant except insofar as they’re the enemy to be ground under heel. We dam’ sure don’t make common cause with those race traitors.
“It makes it difficult to police the ranks for lunatics and crackpots.” You don’t enflame them and set them loose on the street; that’s what pawns are for. “Populist politics has always struggled with the weirdo problem.” At least 50% of Leftists are grotesque weirdos, doesn’t stop them because the Leftist weirdos are normalized and valorized by all the institutions. Bio-Leninism. The issue is that the Left controls all the levers of society. You either have to wait for collapse or take it by force somehow. You need street fighters who aren’t afraid of blood or jail. Not easy to… Read more »
EDIT: you don’t police them, you enflame them
I don’t see right wing lunatics as worth policing. Our worst sort of lunatic is typically a young guy with a screw loose that shoots up a synagogue and then in his suicide note says he did it for Pepe the Frog. Then the media trumpets this as proof that the government has a mandate to cavity search everyone to stop Nazism. Thing is, let’s say it was even possible to stop this sort of thing: you’d still have nuts doing that stuff for no reason and the media will claim it was driven by the far right. You’d still… Read more »
“a young guy with a screw loose that shoots up a synagogue and then in his suicide note says he did it for Pepe the Frog.”
Except for the little fact that that has never happened, and STILL we get blamed for it, Mr. Grinch!
You’ve got cases like Dylan Roof where the shooter identifies on the right so the right gets blamed. Realistically he was just a screwball, but to be fair to the left the same standard holds where antifas are just violent screwballs that want an excuse to attack people. The screwballs will always be there, the problem lies in the right accepting blame for the screwballs just like they implicitly accept blame for mustache guy and slavery.
Exactly correct. Hoppe speaks on this in his terrific speech “Libertarianism and the Alt right – PFS 2017”.
He says these activists are “tacitly financed and supported by the ruling elites”
Some of us lunatics need to police ourselves. I find myself irksome and monomaniacal.
Time to stfu and show one’s work.
The temporal is increasingly tedious, the rest is (unmentionable).
It’s the scale, really. No wonder the faithful anthropomorphise this. How else to stay practical and get on with the day-to-day? Or to face what must be faced?
The more I learn about things, the more I realize I must sound like a Nazi to some people. The Nazis discredited a lot good, core ideas by being a bunch of fuck-ups. You have a rally like Charlottesville, and fuck-ups discredit it by blatantly evoking the Nazis. It’s no wonder identity politics is the thing, because we’ve been stripped of identity, and people know it , even if they can’t express it. The Nazis are the final boss, so to speak, with rediscovering Western identity. God died in the concentration camps, will is evil, peace and good order is… Read more »
Maybe Hitler wasn’t “Hitler” ™ and the Nazis weren’t “Nazis” ™. None of us were there; we’re just going by what we’re told. Consider the source.
We have been lied to about nearly everything of importance for a long time. In looking at history I have to increasing just disregard a lot of it until more proof comes along.
Hell, I don’t even accept the moon landings anymore. I am not saying they didn’t happen but at this point I will need to see more proof.
That’s right. They lie about everything. Unless you were, YOU DON’T KNOW. There is every reason to distrust the moon landings. The Cold War maniacs were unnerved by Sputnik, so why wouldn’t they simply stage a superior achievement? Lot of people make a damn good case that Stanley Kubrick basically admitted he was the director of the moon landing in “The Shining.” And (again) on Hitler and the Nazis. . .Just think of it this way. Let’s say you or I had control of the microphone and the TV. How hard would it be to make hideous Leftist figures look… Read more »
George 1 & Fakeemail – Same thing with me. I even question 9/11 now; Bldg7? Used to hold the Vietnam draft dodgers in utter & complete contempt; now that we all know the Gulf of Tonkin “Incident” was a false flag who can argue with them? Not me. Used to hold the military in the highest regard, to see the crap they’ve pulled over the years (good article about this over @ American Thinker) & how they violated their oath under Trump just leaves my jaw on the floor. If they acted the same under Bai Den they’d be bounced… Read more »
Please consider that Kubrick may have been trying to save his own life.
The ethnic behind “the Landings are a hoax!” propaganda is the same ethnicity behind the militant “American Atheist Society” and, of course, Tony Levin’s “Church of Satan”.
FUD- sow fear, uncertainty, doubt. Soon they’ll tell you there are no satellites, no Voyager, the Mars rovers and Pluto photos are fake, like white people. There are no white people.
This kind of ties in with today’s topic. The people behind the space program and the moon landings were – with apologies to those three magical negresses that apparently did all the math — white men. Watch any footage of those events and it resembles a Klan rally in composition.
The moon landings were almost certainly the greatest accomplishment in human history.
Why cast aspersions at the people we should be championing?
See the 1977 movie Capricorn One. The elites confessed the whole moon landing fraud. The movie is notable for an appearance in a supporting role by OJ Simpson when White America was still under the delusion that he was a decent, civilized human being.
KGB, Yes, yes, and yes! Forget about “punching to the right”, what bugs the shit out of me is “PUNCHING TO THE WHITE”. This is what “the moon landings are fake” accomplishes. This was a crowning glory of White Peoples’ accomplishments, but these nihilistic twits throw it all away. Ooo, it is so bold to be such a nihilist! Got news for you pal, you fell right into their trap of denying that anything Whitey says was good and genuine was a lie. Was Magellan’s voyage a lie? Was Koch’s work on microbes a lie? Were Watson and Crick just… Read more »
The longer it takes for a return trip, the more suspect it gets
I’m not interested in rehabilitating the Nazis. Imo, they were an awful wrong turn. But I am interested in rehabilitating the culture and ideas that pre-dated them, and that they and their spectacular failure were used to discredit. I don’t think the two things are identical, is what I’m getting at.
One of the worst aspects of the Nazis is that they did indeed perpetuate some of the worst aspects of pre-Nazi Germany: ethnic chauvinism, militarism, and social Darwinism.
I was at Cville. While some of the people who were there, myself included, find a lot to admire in national socialism, there was very little explicit cartoon nazism. For example, there were more southern men proud of their heritage present. The widely publicized photo of the guy with the swastika flag showed that the flag still had its creases from being recently opened. This fact, and the fact that the guy was never identified, is circumstantial evidence that this guy was an agent provocateur. From what I saw, and from all the video footage I have ever seen, no… Read more »
It’s the rhetorical situation. Torch marches and chants about Jews. Richard ‘Hail Trump, hail Victory!’ Spencer. No smears required.
Gotta get past the Nazi stuff.
Look, what people in the know are afraid to say is… the Naxi’s and Hiltler had a lot of things right, regardless of what they had wrong. Think the Nazi’s would have played this game of Saint brothah and tranny worship? Or experienced a modicum of white guilt? C’mon man!
They sperged out and spiraled. It’s what fuck-ups do.
I’m just here to chew gum and troll the spelling nazis.. oh look , lots of gum. guess I won’t post today. but good post Z
The “no enemies” approach may have failed in the past, but it also worked. We need look no further than the New Left, which conquered America and now rules AINO. Beginning circa 1965, when can you remember the Left, en bloc, exiling a fellow Leftist for being too radical? Perhaps it happened a time or two, but I imagine the exception would prove the rule.
There’s a difference in category though. The left is all about the misfits and freaks, while the right is about normal and decent people. A misfit on the left still furthers the cause but freaks on the right drive off the normal people you’re trying to court. The right is about setting standards. The left is against standards.
The problem is the right let’s the left define their standards for them. So of course the standard enforcement always targets the most effective opponents of the left.
Good point. However, what counts as a rightwing freak? Somebody who tells the plain truth about negroes, Jews and the War on Whites? If that’s freakish, then the Right itself is freakish and so is truth qua truth. And if this repels normie for the time being, so be it. As the Left’s moral integrity splinters, ours will coalesce, and what appears freakish to normie right now will one day seem as normal as apple pie. Because it is.
The freak side of the right are the wignats that are just Caucasian jungle bunnies who like to say the n-word, tattoo swastikas on their faces, and still typically end up with mulatto children.
There’s a reason that for decades whenever the media needed to film a white supremacist they would get a toothless hillbilly retard to put a bedsheet on. Making the far right look gross is key to keeping people from listening to any of their ideas.
Anybody who takes those people seriously is too stupid to bother even noticing.
Well there was that one guy who wanted to join a group I was in who kept talking about something called the “Lucifer-Christ.” One guy said that as a Christian he couldn’t condone letting him in, and another said that as an Atheist he was against it too. So it was decided that he would not be allowed in the group.
That’s the beauty of controlling the media. “The Left” never had to worry about the NYT doing a hit piece against “The Left” by drawing attention to someone extolling the virtues of Stalin’s policies or governing.
There are no enemies to the left because nobody knows about them.
Take a look at the mugshots of Antifa members before they became state-sponsored terrorists. Misfits make good cannon fodder.
There was a an article just the other day calling out Kavanaugh and saying, in so many words, that he can be re-admitted to polite society if he acts as a Kennedy-esque swing vote in controversial cases. I think about this sort of thing a lot during SCOTUS season. You will never read an article praising one of the lefty judges for siding with the conservatives on the basis of principle in a controversial case, but maybe not for the most obvious reason. This isn’t about calling out “hypocrisy”, because lol. It’s not that the progs in the media will… Read more »
I think “respectable” cons smearing (which is not the same as snitching on) other RW whether blandly dissenting or the more common type of cardboard demon/clown is fast becoming obsolete, a victim of its own success, as such. Leftists have done their own rendition of this National Review schismatic behavior from time to time, but never got dependent on it. It is weird that being a public right-winger depends on fitting into metro-lib norms, yeah. Chris Christie comes to mind. The meddling ones control that layer of society (and have long since moved onto churches, the army, children’s gender; you… Read more »
> My son told his parents at the time that Mr. Achord was trying to reach out to the boys in the class to lead them to the radical racist right. We didn’t take him seriously. It just didn’t seem believable, I guess. Today, my son says that watching what Achord did is a big reason that he identifies with the Left. Rod Dreher failing to transmit his values to his son and then blaming a guy whose life he ruined for it happening is peak Rod. > As my son points out to me all the time, normie conservatives… Read more »
I checked all the links in the article for these quotes paragraphs, but couldn’t find them. Can you post the link?
It was a link in Haywood’s post.
https://roddreher.substack.com/p/sometimes-you-do-have-to-punch-right
It is exactly what you will expect.
It’s actually much worse than I expected. I expected a lot of cucking, not a lot of destroying peoples’ lives. No punishment is too severe for a guy like him. He is a fake christian too. His god is egalitarianism and his church is progressive anti-racism. He should really quit his church and join the Anglican church. Why did he use the words “My son told his parents at the time?” Is he a literal cuck too? From his bio: “Raised a Methodist, he converted to Roman Catholicism in 1993, and subsequently wrote widely in the Catholic press. Covering the… Read more »
I don’t get the verbiage here “my son told his parents at the time”. Is that just an artifact of his divorce or did someone else parent his son?
I prefer to think “his son” was fathered by a guy named Tyrone. He’s a literal cuck. He is a truly loathsome man either way. He played a role to ruin a man’s life and appears to take great pride in what he did. After the revolution, he’s going to a gulag for 50 years of hard labor.
Downvoted, it needs to be a lot worse. Traitors are irredeemable.
Zman, thanks for the link to your 12/22 column, “Welcome To The New Rome.” That was well worth another reading. Much of the Christian morality-bending to the Left started as a strategy to fold the Left into Christianity, but was pretty quickly judo-flipped by the Left to put Christians on the progressive plantation. The upper levels of all the Christian denominations, up to and especially including the marxist pope, have completely subverted the clear meaning of scripture to placate their leftist masters.
Charlottesville was the original J6 incident but for dissents. Regardless of where you are on the spectrum of the right, the first step forward is not living in a dream world where you can publicly protest and not be singled out one by one, have your life destroyed and eventually have your bank accounts closed and credit cards stop working. People with nothing to lose anyway are the shock troops of anti regime movements. Some of them happen to be crazy which is why they never acquired much to begin with. Usually helped out by family and friends. People with… Read more »
My default assumption is that economics never caused anything, because everyone says it causes everything. What’s meant to be invoked when Hitler™ is mentioned, the reason he’s been made the metonymic “fascist,” is his having considered leftism, criminality/degeneracy, and Jewish hostility to his people a single phenomenon that should be opposed as such. That was the common opinion of the interwar German man on the street. Leftists have lately felt safe resurrecting Rosa Luxemburg as a heroic name, now that everyone with a real memory of her is dead. Everyone “remembers” the wheelbarrows of cash, some of us know what… Read more »
Weimar was a fast version of what we’re experiencing today just as was the French Revolution, because modern day derivatives and central banking practices didn’t exist. Before the outbreak of WW1, in a placid, mostly well fed Germany the failed painter could have ranted in the most right wing beer hall and no one would have given him the time of day. Look at the U.S. today. For all our problems the heifers at the mall bigger than ever.
There is no longer a republican government in the United States of America. There is only a clown show of grifters in Washington DC, enriching themselves and crushing the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. The Magna Carta was the result of tyrannical whims of King John under the concept of the “Devine Rights of Kings” to do whatever he chose. But what is the difference between those Devine rights and the executive orders of modern day presidents? Or the whims of government bureaucracies mandating laws without responsibility to voters, and circumventing the constitutional authority of congress?
When I look at the professional Republicans today I only see them as of the left. The Con-Inc people say they are of the right but embrace various leftist positions. Sean Hannity is a good example. The ZMan has pointed this out many times. Left and Right are meaningless terms now. I get it.
In my case though it is easy to have no enemies on the right. I don’t see very many who are actually on the right.
The distinction between Left and Right is now purely cultural. Economics, that hoary Cold War bugbear, no longer has anything to do with it. And this is what confuses most people who came of age under the old paradigm. Quoting The Wealth of Nation just doesn’t add up to sweet Fatty Arbuckle when Coca Cola is to the left of the Cornell sociology department.
Very true. Looking back the actual right was not in favor of offshoring industry and free trade. Buchanan warned of the dangers of these actions. I remember him pointing out that free trade was favored by Lenin in order to weaken society so gaining control would be easier. The result is today we have no “American” corporations. Only multi national organizations that are not just neutral on America but are, in many cases, anti-American. Since they are ran by the elites it is no wonder they are anti America, as ZMan points out, “What is good for them must be… Read more »
“…free trade was favored by Lenin in order to weaken society so gaining control would be easier.”
*gasp*
But that’s the entire world now- “free trade” amongst “democracies”, undergirded by central banks and multinationals…
Tim Murdoch is correct: the division is pro-white and anti-white.
Everything else is a detail, a distraction, a rabbit hole, a red herring, irrelevant, a matter for high IQ circle jerkers, and a waste of time.
Or your skin color is your uniform…That’s how it’s breaking out, but the problem is that most whites have not absorbed enough punishment to break through their egalitarian programming…
Painfully true. I hope they wake up soon.
It is millions of White men in the Western World that are putting the teeth in the enforcement of anti-White government policies. The blacks think Whitey is keeping them down that is a joke compared to what Whitey is doing to their own.
Is it White men or is it White women who are making the enforcement more toothy? My money’s on the latter.
“Tim Murdoch is correct: the division is pro-white and anti-white.
Everything else is a detail, a distraction, a rabbit hole, a red herring, irrelevant, a matter for high IQ circle jerkers, and a waste of time.”
This^^^. Exactly right. I say this all the time when I comment. Race is the only thing that matters. It is the only thing that matters to the “left” and it should be the only thing that matters to us. You are either White or you’re against us.
I don’t keep track of the cool kids and their feuds on the tight. All I know from my perch out here in the outhouse… is that conservatives have to clean their house. The weirdos are not the only enemies we have. They have to be turfed without mercy or hesitation. The way forward is easily stated but a complete boar to implement. We have to define who we are, and what we want. Anyone who is not on the team has to be kicked off. We have to hold to a standard, we have to be seen doing it,… Read more »
The “elite” all agree with each other no matter what party they are in. They were raised in the same neighborhoods, went to the same schools, hang out in the same social circles etc, or they aspire to be in that class.
Con, inc is not faking it when they react to people on their right with disgust, outrage and disavowal. They don’t really care about pleasing their so-called enemies on the left. They ARE the left. Their disagreements with “the left” are pretty minor.
Thought experiment. Play pin the tail on donkey, putting the names Bush/Clinton/GWBush/Obama randomly on any of the periods from 1988-2016. The only way you could tell who actually governed is the Rs bat about .500 on supreme court nominees, whereas the Ds bat 1.000.
It’s near-meaningless things like House leadership votes that tell us who our “to the right” is. We don’t have to care who’s Speaker to know that anyone who objects to McCarthy losing his job is our enemy “to the left,” i.e., on the side of the establishment.
Coincidentally, Sailer and Ace today deployed the same Twitter-addict soyism, “It’s almost as if…,” in their almost identical claims that Republican votes against McCarthy were irresponsible.
Coincidentally.
AFAIC, all DC politics is sew boaring…
Well, this is why it’s important to know what you’re for, not what you’re against, i.e., having a positive identity. When you know what you’re for and say it clearly, it’s not hard to criticize or approve of what others write or do. For example, if I’m for whites joining the identity politics games and maybe even someday having our own communities, I can still side and work with colorblind CivNats who oppose the anti-white agenda when they’re working toward that objective because it helps my cause. When they move toward pushing for a colorblind agenda, we part ways. Basically,… Read more »
I would like to echo what TomA said below: I don’t know anybody who engages in these fights and none of the names in the post are even familiar to me at all. I am astounded that Charles Haywood (another person I do not know from Adam) would devote so much thought and energy to writing about a topic that scarcely seems to exist. Does he live in some sort of alternate reality where these ruthless right-fights are really a thing? Frankly, the whole posture looks LARPy and ridiculous to me. There is a much bigger problem with No Enemies… Read more »
It may be true that there are no beliefs that define the dissident right other than hatred of the left. We both agree that with TomA’s point that the most important act for an individual is to align himself with quality people whom he can trust in real life. Not that I expect anyone to care, but my version of “No enemies on the right” is: no enemies who are race realists that acknowledge the power of tribalism over non-whites. Although the left is my most powerful enemy, my most significant enemies are race blind conservatives/libertarians and race realists that… Read more »
Who says the Right defines itself in contradistinction to the Left? In point of fact, on matters such as economics and even the environment, the Right now shares common ground with the Left. In point of fact, all that really defines the Right right now is white identitarianism. Now white identitarianism is not as simple and straightforward as it may prima facie appear, but this is where philosophy and strategy enter the picture. They provide defintion and they delineate tactics. As for traditionalism, it is largely coterminous with the Right. You will not find many people on the Right who… Read more »
Everything Ostei just wrote. Marginal tax rates are inconsequential in this environment, to start with one Con, In., checklist item.
Whites not hating themselves somehow has become radical. Don’t hate yourself. Be radical.
Charles Haywood said that. It’s in the manifesto he wrote, that is linked to in the OP. I don’t agree with that notion, which is why I was criticizing it.
This is wrong. In the USSR there was a diverse array of people who opposed the regime from traditional monarchists to people who wanted a market economy and many others. They were united in their opposition to the regime and all were better off after it fell.
Haywood has a good definition of what the left is metaphysically and it makes sense to unite against it.
The political struggle never ends. Man is a political animal.
…you must have some way to filter out the lunatics or you end up being defined by them
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That’s generally been my issue with any “no enemies on the right” mantra as it has always been used as a cover by crazies and conmen. At this point though I think an ideology is coalesced enough to be defined loosely as “what is good for the future of white people as a group?” and that it should at least be enough to squeeze out grifters like Dreher.
What we need is a definition of “right”…most of the “crazies” don’t meet our present criteria for civilized resistance to collectivism…but in 10 years they may seem like conservatives…
Nah I’m talking about people who pitch perpetual motion machines and whatnot. Maybe think “White Bernie Madoffs and their groupies”.
For as fruit-loopy as the left is (and they *are* loopy) they do try to back bench their more embarrassing adherents (a perpetual complaint of any pol the same or worse than AOC).
With due respect, Mr, Heywood, in his article, sounds like a Jacobin or, better, a Rightest Bolshevik who, like the apocryphal cowboy, hopped on his horse, brandished his gun, and rode off in all directions. When it comes to The Left and the Right, his criterion of discernment sounds basically like a smell test conducive to the likelihood of fomenting a Reign of Error.
I despaired of Rod Dreher when he consistently refused to follow through on the principles and program he laid out in the Ben Op. What, then, was the point?
“No enemies on the right” does not mean “No quality control on the right”.
Speaking of Antifa:
https://nypost.com/2023/10/03/disturbing-video-shows-moment-beloved-activist-poet-is-randomly-stabbed-to-death-in-front-of-girlfriend-on-nyc-street/
Golly, that looked painful. I hope the knife is okay.
Note that the attack took place on Malcolm X Boulevard. More evidence of the wisdom behind Z-Man’s oft-repeated warnings about streets of that name.
Don’t forget to avoid MLK Blvd.
Oddly, while MLK Blvd in Oakland is no great shakes although far from the worst part of that notorious city, once it gets into Berkeley it becomes pretty decent, runs along the west side of downtown, and becomes even a bit upscale when it reaches the north side of town. Its name then changes to the much tonier The Alameda. Of course I wish they had just kept the old name, Grove St.
Malcolm X. Boulevard is less ominous than the George Floyd Parkway.
Which debouches into Stacy Abrams Square…God help us.
I don’t need a report from Z-Man to know which way the wind blows on Malcolm X Boulevard.
Incidentally, I’m spearheading an effort to get the MLK Blvd. in my city renamed Z-Man Way. Wish me luck!
Was the now-dead fool wearing a Black Lives Matter shirt?
No, but his Salvadoran girlfriend, who did nothing- not even hold his hand as he died, call 911, and refused to identify the aspiring scholar- she is a BLM ‘activist leader’.
I did not know that. That is SO funny. I laughed the first time. It’s not often that events happen that result in follow-up laughter. Thank you for cluing me in. 🙂
I swear, I used to be a nice guy. That guy seems like ancient history; I can barely remember him. Now, I am a guy who enjoys laughing. Guffaws, silent laughs, belly laughs, snorting laughs, even (I am embarrassed to admit) giggles on occasion … The white leftist never ceases to entertain as they trundle towards the mass graves, dragging us along with them.
Late update on this story … She has a Go-Fund-Me to “take time off from work to properly mourn” that has already made $50k. Hilarious.
Magic 8 ball says it was a jogger.
But then, I’m kinda being obvious.
No more “Do gooding” for that guy.
It looks in the video like he and his girlfriend were running surveillance, at 4 am in Bed-Sty and ran into some kind of opposition…
Jeez, he could’ve at least fought back when the jogger was advancing on him with clear intent. Gotta give yourself a fighting chance and if you die at least go out with a shred of dignity.
At that point you HAVE to fight even if the aggressor is twice your size; which this aggressor was not.
Survival and good sense have been brainwashed out of generations.
Like most Leftist men, he was too emasculated to fight back. That explains the calloused reaction his girlfriend had after he was shanked.
A brutal assessment, yet likely correct.
Noticed that you got a downvote for your comment. I agree with your sentiment. I think that the only way that the White race will survive in this country (or the world for that matter) is to follow the quote from “The Outlaw Josie Wales”. To wit: “Remember, when things get bad and it looks like you’re not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean. I mean plumb, mad-dog mean. Cause if you lose your head and give up then you neither live nor win. That’s just the way it is.” Stop thinking of the animals as people worthy… Read more »
I have been assured by someone who met him that Dreher is every bit as passive-aggressive and snobbish in person as he comes across in print. Dreher is morbidly fascinating. He throws his dead sister under the bus. He throws his dead dad under the bus. He doxes a schoolteacher apparently in some sort of weird tag team with his now-ex-wife. He blames his family for the divorce; none of his siblings or cousins will speak to him. He runs off to Hungary and gets a lot of traction in Europe where nobody knows about his history as a family… Read more »
> Dreher is morbidly fascinating. He throws his dead sister under the bus. He throws his dead dad under the bus.
Every small-town person knows this type. Reasonably high IQ guy who leaves his village, gets too big for his britches, and starts talking about his childhood friends with either sniveling contempt or passive-aggressive condescension.
“Passive-aggressive” is correct. Many of these Con, Inc., grifters are little wannabe bullies who get full erections watching the monstrous Left terrorize the people they claim to give a voice. The biggest laugh I got from Dreher was watching him meltdown after someone compared him to David French, and concluding his defense with cuckish praise of French. Those two truly need to be institutionalized.
Dreher is exactly the kind of weirdo we don’t want on our side…and we’re unsurprised to learn that he’s not on our side…
The worse he’ll make us all look, the more funding he’ll get.
Draw ’em in with something tasty, then spring the trap.
His meditations on “primitive root wieners” was one of the more bizarre things I have ever read.
I would assume in retrospect, TAC considers it a significant error that they let a donor pay them to give Dreher a platform where he had no oversight or editing at all. Ron Unz said he was there biggest driver of web traffic while he was publisher, but still not worth it.
Dreher drives a lot of traffic (which he moderates, heavily) because he says a lot of the right things but always stops the correct side of respectability.
Dreher left TAC back in March and transferred to a paid subscriber-only Substack. I stopped reading him at that point. Some of his critiques of wokeness and insane sexualities were on point but I sure wasn’t going to pay to read him.
I read his response to Haywood that Haywood has a link to at the end of his blog post. Chet Rollins is right, he truly hates his upbringing and the area of Louisiana he is from. He drug his wife and kids back there when his sister got cancer like he was going to be some sort of savior and when they didn’t fall on the faces to praise him for it, he wrote a book basically trashing them in a passive aggressive way. I thought it was funny at the time of the Achord dox that Dreher and his… Read more »
Dreher sounds like to has Kevin Williamson syndrome, hate where you come from so that you don’t hate yourself quite as much. Those types are despicable.
[…] ZMan turns over a rock. […]
I don’t personally know anyone that engages in these arcane internecine political battles and I only get exposed to this nonsense in posts like this one. More importantly, I don’t think we can cure what ails us by trying to refine our macro-scale conduct in some presumed optimum fashion. If you’re dying of cancer, what difference does it make if you have Tourette’s syndrome. The strategy of rallying the masses only works if you have a quality electorate and the game is not rigged by fraud. And neither of the above exist in modern day America. We are becoming a… Read more »
“The Titanic is sinking and its fatally useless to waste effort arguing about the debating rules on the way down.”
There is only one goal, we win, they lose. Fight fire with fire. Nice guys finish last. Lunatic or not, that guy to my right is not an enemy if we need him to win. We’ll sort it all out after we defeat the real enemy.
ToMA, do you live in a deep red county? If you do, you can most certainly make a difference for your neighbor and your family. Yes, the federal level is beyond saving, but our local community is not. Right here in Idaho, I have witnessed the very phenomenon Haywood describes. We recently had “normie” Christian conservatives (unwittingly?) being used to create a wedge withing the resurgent Right here. It was the usual playbook of demanding we disown all “groypers” and Christian Nationalists. We took the NEOTR approach however, and we’re stronger than ever. Meanwhile, those useful “conservative” idiots now have… Read more »
I’m glad, but frankly kind of amazed that jerkoff McCarthy actually got deep sixed. However, the bottom line is what will come of it? The government here is so utterly corrupt that more likely than not, nothing will. We’ll see. It may be a good start, but I’m not holding my breath.
It has caused some relatively hidden grifters to reveal themselves. That has value. Look for the Chip Roy video posted on Twitter before it gets yanked.
Maybe the House will hold another dozen votes to re-elect McCarthy as speaker. Just keep voting until you get the correct result. It worked last time
Rearranging deck chairs on Titanic
The budget deficit is currently the same as ’08 with full employment
I asked Zman to write about this and I’m very grateful he did. This was fantastic. I would encourage Zman to post a link to this on Twitter. If the Right combined Haywood’s principles with Zman’s post-Charlottesville essays/podcast on the proper public behavior for the Right, I think it would be an excellent platform for the Right’s movement. A great example is Matt Gaetz. This guy may be a douchebag, but he has rendered a great service to the Right in ousting McCarthy. The people piling on Gaetz on Twitter and in the media are clearly grifters and they are… Read more »
“The people piling on Gaetz on Twitter and in the media are clearly grifters and they are “outing” themselves in real time. I hope people keep receipts.” Right? The stupidity exceeds the grift. As for Gaetz, that is one who escaped the clutches of the Deep State and is making it pay. There will be more like him, and of course the Regime will try to be more accurate with its aim in response. As I understand it, the cucks were getting ready to expel Gaetz after framing him for statutory rape failed. Whoops. This is my favorite thing so… Read more »
It is incredible to see people expose themselves. Like, getting rid of a useless, shill, parasite like McCarthy is only a bad thing if you are running a massive grift and you want it to keep going. I’ve said this a million times but the Republican party is dead. You saw it last week with that cast of ghouls on the debate stage and you saw it yesterday. They keep fighting against the dying of the light but it’s just not happening. The people don’t want Republican party do-nothing uniparty governance. The people want Trump and they want MAGA. Either… Read more »
” What we insist on calling the Right in America is primarily a policing operation. ” Exactly. It may be rearranging chairs on the deck of the Titanic, and too little, too late, but any chance at salvaging our people starts with eliminating Con, Inc. We see this with what happened to the Speaker of the House last night. Matt Gaetz’ marksmanship very well may have averted World War III AND sunk the GOP as controlled opposition. Rod Dreher hardest hit. As for freaks, lunatics, Alt-Right carnies…do what the Left does. Use them and hide them on an as-needed basis.… Read more »
Yeah, I think focusing only on the Left and ignoring their enablers is a huge mistake and may be a deliberate one by people like Chris Rufo and others. I get the sense that many of these newly minted culture warriors would like to occupy the offices of Conservative Inc because they like the view, not because they despise their politics.
As others have pointed out, Charlie Kirk and Matt Walsh and their ilk are now espousing positions they once considered grounds for banning from the public square. It likely is more opportunism than conversion. I actually think they can be useful as long as they are treated with the healthy distrust they have richly earned. Keep forcing them rightward, in other words, and fully realize they don’t mean a word of it and are never to be trusted.
I think they have made some genuine progress moving right, especially Walsh. It has been awhile since I have seen them participate in denouncing someone on the right when the left demands it. This has been one of the biggest areas of improvement. Still don’t trust them, but they are a lot better than the IDW crowd.
It is a good example of it is important to focus on the message and not the man. Cheer the good messages, regardless of course, within reason, and jeer or ignore the bad messages. When Kirk says something smart, reward him with praise. When he says something stupid, reward him with boos. When one of our guys says something stupid, politely ignore it.
Like training a dog.
Rufo is an interesting case. He is no longer ideologically in on colorblind, he is in due to his mate selection. These guys love being close to power for certain. The worst of them is this sodomite Douglas Murray. What a supercilious, smug, finger pointer that guy is. Jared Taylor interviewed some guy, Brodow yesterday. He has a new book, “The War on Whites.” Taylor asked him what he sees as hopeful signs that America can be a successful multi-cultural society, and Brodow responded that increasing inter-racial couples was one. So, the great white champion sees misceginating out as the… Read more »
Dreher’s ex wife and at least one of kids are well to his left politically. In his response to Haywood, Dreher says his oldest son “identifies with the left” because he saw through the way Achord was trying to lead kids into white nationalism. His ex wife resigned her teaching job at the school in protest of Achord having worked there.
Good info. Maybe someday his kid will through The Left’s leading him into a life of second class citizenship, dispossession, humiliation and ultimately, extinction.
TL;DR:
Douglas Murray is a creepy, queer, disgusting, treacherous reptile.
Couldn’t agree more, Good Sir!
One of the things I have noticed about normie conservatives is their penchant to be willingly corralled by leftist denunciations of Nazis. They enthusiastically join in on the Outrage-over-the-Holocaust-narrative-event-of-the-day, while never seriously demanding their progressive brethren do the same for Stalinism. The outrage and emotional breast-beating always moves in one direction, and these idiots cannot understand the damage they are doing. This is like sawing off the limb you are sitting on.
Communism has had *WAY* better press than Nazism.
Gee, I can’t imagine why… :rolleyes:
Instead of the cucking or (presently untenable) ‘Well Ackshuallyyyy..’ approaches, I like to ‘Agree and Amplify’ with reference to the Armenian Genocide, Partition of India, Zanzibar Revolution, Idi Amin booting the Indians out of Uganda, Hutu Tutsi Boogaloo, etc… Stuff happens all the time. Some People do Some Things to Some Other People. It’s kind of hard to keep up. Even harder to keep track of numbers and the whole he said / she said thing.
It’s all so Tiresome ™