Manna From Heaven

One of the many problems with most conspiracy theories is they contain a central contradiction on which the theory depends. Usually, it is of the type where the villain is both omnisciently genius and incredibly stupid. The “deep state”, for example, is able to know every thought and action of every person, but they have been outwitted by the collection of aluminum foil hat guys. The central villains of most conspiracy theories are the same people who built the Death Star in Star Wars.

Another big problem with conspiracy theories is they confuse opportunism with skillful planning, as we see with the fighting in the Levant. The internet is full of theories about how Mossad or the IDF or Netanyahu deliberately let Hamas stage that raid so they could use the ensuing crisis to advance their agenda. The real goal was to clear out Gaza or maybe instigate a wider war in the region. Like 9/11, this attack was a five-cushion bank shot by the deep state.

In reality, the most likely answer for how this started is stupidity. Israel politics have been a mess for a long time now due to demographics. The Mizrahi Jews, sometimes called Oriental Jews, are those who never left the region. They are growing in number and pollical power. As a group grows in power, it tends to come at the expense of another group, or it is perceived as such. In Israel, the group threatened by the Mizrahi are the Ashkenazi, who dominate the ruling elite.

One result of this growing internal conflict is the Jewish state is not working as well as people have come to expect. The reputation of the Jewish security apparatus was made in the wars with the Arabs but also in support of the neocon wars against the Arabs during the Bush years. As is always the case, success brings complacency and that is how they got the Hamas raid. The Israelis were caught letting their guard down and the result was the Hamas raid.

That does not mean they are letting a crisis go to waste. The Dresden-like assault being waged on Gaza is one example. It is unnecessary and gratuitous, but it does sure up support in Washington, where the neocons are desperate for a win. The site of blown-up buildings and dead Palestinians not only gives people like Ben Shapiro some cheap thrills, but it also gives him a reason to whip his white audience into a frenzy of support for the war machine and its neocon operators.

It is also good for the Washington establishment. It feels like old times in the imperial capital and that is just what the doctor ordered. The rebels in the House GOP caucus have been silenced because we are at war now and no one has time for their complaints about corruption and Republican perfidy. The result is the compliant Kevin McCarthy will be replaced by the equally compliant Steve Scalise as Speaker, rather than the more independent Jim Jordan.

It is also giving Washington an excuse to cut Ukraine loose. All of a sudden no one is taking those calls from Zelensky. In between sobbing fits, White House spokesbot John Kirby made clear that Israel is now the priority. He said that “we are coming to the end of the rope on Ukraine funding” which is very bad news for Ukraine. That was a signal to regime media to wrap up their “coverage” of the war and put the whole thing on ignore and instead focus on this new war in the Levant.

This is also a golden opportunity for the Pentagon. The imperial war machine was not built to fight a land war against a peer. This has been rather embarrassing for them over the last year in the Ukraine war. From a public relations perspective, Ukraine has been terrible for the Pentagon. Now, they can switch back to their preferred role of bombing lightly armed militias. This has the added benefit of getting the flag waving yahoos excited for the war machine again.

The biggest winner in this could be the neocons who have been searching for a way to get invited back into the Republican Party. As everyone knows, a neocon cannot enter your house uninvited, so they have been searching for a way to get the Republicans to throw out the welcome mat for them. This is proving to be just the ticket, as every presidential candidate is now in a race to the sea in an effort to be the most bellicose with regards to killing Muslims.

This has the added benefit of letting them use their version of no enemies to the right, which they successfully used in the Bush years. You see, this new threat to America in the Levant is too important to risk dissent. That means Donald Trump and his criticisms of the party have to go so the more serious people like Nikki Haley can lead the party against Joe Biden and his Iranian deal makers. The fact that team Biden is run by the Kagan cult, just like Nikki Haley, will be ignored.

Of course, what will follow is new limits on speech online. The usual suspects are demanding that the social media platforms ban anyone questioning the official narrative on the war. Anyone doubting the crazy stories, for example, will be smeared as an apologist for Hamas. Maybe even an antisemite. In an ideological society, the bogeyman is always a reason to crush dissent and the regime now has a fresh new and familiar bogeyman, so the results are predictable.

That is the thing about ideological societies. The ruling elite can always take advantage of a crisis because it exists to manage crisis. Whether it is in containing counter-revolutionary forces or the inevitable crisis that arises from the irrationality of the ideology, the first task of a ruling class in an ideological society is to use every crisis as a means to advance the interest of the regime. Once Hamas parachuted into Israel, the regime had a crisis and they never let a crisis go to waste.


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Rando
Rando
9 months ago

I know a lot of people are just baffled at how paragliding Hamas fighters could just slowly fly into Israel without immediately being shot down. One thing I learned from working on radars for a while is that they typically work with Doppler shift. If no Doppler shift, a radar blip is usually treated like clutter and discarded before being sent to a display. The radar data is very heavily massaged in software before being sent to the display screen. It is common for very slow objects to have so little Doppler shift that the system will ignore it. From… Read more »

kerdasi amaq
kerdasi amaq
Reply to  Rando
9 months ago

Yeah, well, how did they get those paragliders in the first place?

Where did they learn to fly them?

How easy is it to fly from Gaza to the attack zone?

Vxxc
Vxxc
9 months ago

As everyone knows, a neocon cannot enter your house uninvited.
🤣🤣

Vxxc
Vxxc
9 months ago

I don’t think the crazy stories, in particular as HAMAS is putting up the videos, are crazy. HAMAS are just the Apex Arab gang. Nor do I think Israel would lie to its own people about casualties, they are entirely too casualty averse. Not to mention this is completely in character for Jihadi. It’s not fake. Israel is described recently by a Catholic working there as the first post sexual revolution Western Society, as you actually see children everywhere. The TFR is like 3.1. That’s enormous compared to the West. You might be wrong on the neocons are in sync… Read more »

Pasaran
Pasaran
9 months ago

Some news from France : we are now quasi officially a colony of Israel. Medias get hysterical, Jews on tv calmly ask for literal genocide and murdering all leftoid propalestinians.

And on the youtube dissident right, and on “conservative” “far-right” news papers or channels, same thing : by hate of Islam and Arabs, it’s full Israel.

Like pathetic frustrated nationalists totally unable to fix racial invasion in France and get fulfilled with Tsahal porn.

(🙏Forgive the awful writing)

PS: I’m not propalestinian. IMO, Jerusalem and holy land should be controlled by the rightful christian church, aka the Orthodox church.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Pasaran
9 months ago

How are the Muslims in France reacting to the events, if that even is permitted to be covered?

Emmanuel Faye
Emmanuel Faye
Reply to  Pasaran
9 months ago

It is the strangest thing I have lived through. I think it’s worse than Covid right now in the Western media. Absolute bloodlust from every corner. I hear the word “exterminate” ten times in 30 minutes if I turn on the TV. Several senators and US congressmen/women have used the term, too, including at a “prayer vigil” on the Capitol steps just an hour ago. I am beginning to actually believe they intend to start a full-blown regional war there, and push us toward nuclear war. It didn’t happen in Ukraine, so now they’re trying again. They’ll probably succeed this… Read more »

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Emmanuel Faye
9 months ago

The public turned against the Ukraine war so they are tinkering more with the propaganda for this attempt. The problem for them is the wide-open border has negated the war fever and delegitimized the government and its ho’s and help.

george 1
george 1
Reply to  Emmanuel Faye
9 months ago

It is so true. My little old lady neighbor is for “killing all of them” she means the Palestinians.

I ask her: All two million of them? She responds “Yes”.

People have lost their damned minds.

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Pasaran
9 months ago

“Some news from France : we are now quasi officially a colony of Israel.”

I hope the Zionist-controlled Macron regime doesn’t arrest you for saying that, man. Take care of yourself. Merci pour le rapport.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
9 months ago

Am I alone thinking as Bennie S is hysterically posting war porn that someone needs to tell him “That’s not an argument”?

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
9 months ago

The fact that Cory Booker and a bunch of big-name Democrats were “in a conference” in Israel just as this new war started is such an unfortunate coincidence.

I’m glad the stunning but brave Spartacus got out alive. Such a hero. Shaken, but resolute, like Ariana Grande.

kerdasi amaq
kerdasi amaq
9 months ago

Two things, either the Mossad and Shin Beth were caught by surprise or they knew exactly what was going to happen because they were planning it. Tell them something that don’t know Egypt.

I’d suppose that Joe Biden has an obligation to his donors to deliver the war with Iran that Trump reneged on.

Visit the Dome of the Rock whilst you can; it mightn’t be there for much longer.

This plan all started with Netanyahu’s “stroke”.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  kerdasi amaq
9 months ago

Trump ordering the killing of Soleimani, a regime/military target, instead of a half million random Persians really pissed off everybody—including Iran.

And yet, it’s the sole case where “the generals” followed his orders.

It’s the only event in his presidency that I don’t understand (except that in principle it was “good” because military officers should be at very great risk of death at all times).

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Hemid
9 months ago

“The generals” gave the order to kill Soleimani to Trump… not he other way around.

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  kerdasi amaq
9 months ago

kerdasi amaq: “either the Mossad and Shin Beth were caught by surprise or they knew exactly what was going to happen because they were planning it” Egypt warned Israhe11 about it: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67082047 [Plus we know that Iron Dome was TURNED OFF.] ========== Also, on the Scalise matter, the House GOP is in utter chaos at the moment. At this point, it’s kinda purposeless to poast any particular news story about it, because the mess with the House GOP is so very fluid right now. I’ve been trying to think of a behavioral model which describes the leadership of the House… Read more »

Dutch Boy
Dutch Boy
Reply to  Bourbon
9 months ago

Paul Craig Roberts cites a former Israeli officer thoroughly familiar with the Gaza defense perimeter who thinks the official Israeli line (we blew it) is hooey:
https://www.unz.com/proberts/perhaps-my-speculation-was-on-the-mark/

omnisciently genius and incredibly stupid
omnisciently genius and incredibly stupid
9 months ago

Fortunately Jews are highly conspiratorial, delight in complicated schemes and scams that inevitable fall apart, and possess a lack of self-awareness that at times does a fair imitation of stupidity… And fortunately we are trying to destroy a society in which trust has been totally destroyed by the Jews and their lies. People are flailing around for explanations. They should be given them. Thus conspiracies should always be attributed to Jews. Preferably living ones. All other conspiracy theories should be rejected out-of-hand and the people offering them should be accused of being Jew puppets and gatekeepers. A general rule: always… Read more »

Bourbon
Bourbon

omnisciently genius and incredibly stupid: “There’s a war on.”

An extraordinarily meta-Darwinian war.

A few days ago, here, chez Z, I was opining that Darwinism doesn’t do much good in attempting to explain the near-infinite intricacy & complexity of physical Biology, but that meta-Darwinism is d@mned near perfect in explaining human sociology.

Especially when meta-Darwinism doubles down on studying the meta-phenomenon which is Passive Aggressive Personality Disorder.

Vxxc
Vxxc

Can I shorten your handle to OG?
or stupid OG?

You know, your antisemitism is very acute.
You must be Jewish.

Frankly I don’t consider the Israeli particularly Jewish, but I’m American and Biased from NYC time. It’s like the Irish vs the Boston Irish. Different Breed.

WhatWeDoInTheShadows
WhatWeDoInTheShadows
9 months ago

Nice post, Z. This fresh mayhem is just “Twilight” for neocons, as you point out. I thought the commentary from non-Harvard anti-GAE this week was in the main triumph of hope over experience. In contrast I thought I heard right away in Troy McClure’s voice, “It’s the part I was born to play, baby” emanating from the Johns Hopkins cafeteria

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
9 months ago

Re: 9/11. Two of the world’s tallest buildings are hit by airliners, and… implode into their footprints. A nearby building catches fire, and… implodes into its footprint.

3 for 2, in style. I’m not sure who did it, but that’s a five-cushion bank shot if there ever was one lol.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Paintersforms
9 months ago

I think their mistake was WTC7. Towers 1 & 2 because of the planes and chaos could be passed off as believable by most. Particularly the non-intelligent with no understanding of physics and especially materials science. Fire protection experts, mechanical engineers, etc. of course would still balk, but they are a small minority easily shouted down by the “media & experts”. But WTC7 strains credulity for even totally uneducated midwits. 15% of a building is on fire with non-exotic bog standard office fire. 47 story building collapses at free fall from generic non out of control office fire… got it.… Read more »

Baker Shakey
Baker Shakey
Reply to  Paintersforms
9 months ago

Blasphemy! You … you … you liar!

AnotherAnon
AnotherAnon
9 months ago

One gaping hole in defense leaps out – the fact that the wall wasn’t mined within a hundred feet. In this case, today’s earth moving tractors are yesteryear’s box cutters. Most campus punk pink-hairs screeching for war couldn’t tell you the difference between Hamas, Hezbollah, or the PLO. Today’s PLO is living high on the hog in Qatar, something like democrats swanning around in Monaco all summer. The days of Yassir Arafat roughing it in desert tents with his ever-present stubble and dirty camoflage garb are long in their rear view mirror. (Come to think of it, perhaps Zelensky got… Read more »

Baker Shakey
Baker Shakey
Reply to  AnotherAnon
9 months ago

Excellent. How I long for the days of “Yassir Arafat roughing it in desert tents with his ever-present stubble and dirty camouflage garb”

Just shows that they aren’t even concerned with appearances. But I am.

threestars
threestars
9 months ago

“The imperial war machine was not built to fight a land war against a peer. This has been rather embarrassing for them over the last year in the Ukraine war. From a public relations perspective, Ukraine has been terrible for the Pentagon.” I’m pretty certain the Ukrainian armed forces are the ones who fought the “second best army in the world” to a standstill, not NATO. Are you suggesting the Ukrainians are representative of the “imperial war machine”? The conflict did show some deficiencies in regards to ammo production and generating mass; but these were already well known problem areas… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  threestars
9 months ago

Grill, baby, grill!

Mike
Mike
Reply to  threestars
9 months ago

Wow, you’re amazing. You have everything inverted. Sounds like you’re still waiting for Steiner to finally relieve Berlin. How could anyone honestly believe that stuff?

Xman
Xman
Reply to  threestars
9 months ago

The Iraqi Army was a “peer” on paper only.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Xman
9 months ago

Not even on paper.

threestars
threestars
Reply to  Xman
9 months ago

For most of us, paper is the only place to compare two armed forces before they go to war with one another. Is the PLA a near peer to NATO? They sure look like it on paper, but who knows, maybe they will prove as ineffectual as the Russian did against Ukraine. The Russians looked superb on paper and almost everybody in the military and military enthusiast community expected them to run over Ukraine in a matter of weeks. The people who are actually knowledgeable of military history and follow military matters soon changed their opinion on the Armed Forces… Read more »

Valley Lurker
Valley Lurker
Reply to  threestars
9 months ago

Thanks for stopping by the blog, Mr. Hannity.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  threestars
9 months ago

I like satire.
Play again soon.

imnobody00
imnobody00
Reply to  threestars
9 months ago

“The last war NATO fought a near-peer opponent was over 30 years ago, and they thrashed the Iraqis so severely that even today people still can’t take Arab armies seriously.”

The last war NATO fought aaaaa… (spits coffee) NEAR-PEER HAHAHAA LOL OPPO… HAHAHA I CAN’T I CAN’T NEAR-PEER HAHAHAH OPPO HOHOHO HILLARIOUS OPPONENT HAHHAHA I CAN’T I CAN’T MAN YOU ARE GREAT. I HAVE HAD THE LAUGH OF MY LIFE.

george 1
george 1
Reply to  threestars
9 months ago

What you are missing is at the start of the Ukraine war the Russians did not have a very large army. They did not want war with anyone and had allowed their military to atrophy. They never anticipated that NATO would be insane enough to carry on the conflict when the Russians made it clear they would activate rather than allow the Donbass population to continue being brutalized and NATO to expand to Ukraine. He thought a deal was still possible. Putin made a big mistake in that assessment. Somewhere around the start of summer 2022, Putin understood that it… Read more »

Reziac
Reziac
9 months ago

Completely lost in all this talk about conspiracy: About 20% (last I paid attention) of the population of Israel are Arabs. Those people are Muslims first, Arabs second, and Israelis only on paper. Do you really think they were not used as an infiltration force? As to the why, it’s equally simple. Islam mandates that the end times (which Iran actively works for) cannot come until all the Jews are dead. If one is martyred in that cause, so much the better. How the Gaza residents were treated (never mind that they destroyed what was given them) is absolutely irrelevant… Read more »

Jannie
Jannie
9 months ago

Which Americans are going to fight WW3? Good piece about this on I.D.

https://identitydixie.com/2023/10/08/americans-do-not-want-to-fight-russia/

Intelligent Dasein
Intelligent Dasein
Member
9 months ago

In the broader historical picture, the larger and more significant point here is the failure of high-tech weaponry and the foolishness of overreliance on electronic/computerized weapons systems and intelligence gathering. The topic can be discussed under three headings. 1. The cost of these modern armaments now runs into the trillions of dollars. Even if they worked perfectly, they cannot overcome the law of diminishing returns (and they don’t work perfectly). It is rather doubtful that the West could afford to field these weapons if it found itself in a condition of all-out war with a peer power. The existing stock… Read more »

Mike
Mike
Reply to  Intelligent Dasein
9 months ago

Good comment, but you’re forgetting the real reason for the complex wonderwaffen. It’s all for the stock prices of the MIC and all those sweet lobbying and consulting gigs for the fortunate few.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Mike
9 months ago

The Department of Defense exists to defend real estate values in Northern Virginia and Southern Maryland.

imnobody00
imnobody00
Reply to  Bilejones
9 months ago

Yes, the only blind spot is the one that the ones receiving this money have because the bimbo in front of them does not let them see the beach.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
9 months ago

Dissidents of good faith can honestly disagree about how much of our sorry state is due the improvisational opportunism of our enemies or due to a consistent, long range plan. But there is one example of a consistent, long range plan that no one can dispute: massive immigration into our country. As soon as the 1924 immigration act passed, the chosen mobilized to fight it. Later on, they were able to incentivize some shabbos to assist them, but no one can dispute that this is an example of a long term plan that our enemies have consistently pursued for 100… Read more »

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  LineInTheSand
9 months ago

Immigration is (almost) the only issue. The rest could and would eventually be fixed. IF we were still masters in our own house. Immigration is the heritage eviction notice.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  LineInTheSand
9 months ago
Alzaebo
Alzaebo
9 months ago

Speaking of conspiracy theories, is this cool or what?

diannemarshallreport.com/israels-most-intriguing-war-photo/

(Short article. Skip the words, you can.
A photo or two…one of those “wait for it” shorties.)

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
9 months ago

(Proper credit goes to GreenAlba (in the UK) at Kunstler’s CFN.

I had no idea of the latest kerfluffle, til Z Monday. Off grid. Hard to follow everything in a 3-ring circus.)

Xman
Xman
9 months ago

NYPD to deploy all cops on Friday in response to pro-Palestinian sentiment:

https://nypost.com/2023/10/12/nypd-orders-all-officers-to-duty-after-hamas-call-for-global-protests/

Remember a few years back when the Jewish oligarch Bloomberg called NYPD his own private army?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2068428/Bloomberg-I-army-NYPD-State-Department-New-York-City.html

RDittmar
Member
9 months ago

As everyone knows, a neocon cannot enter your house uninvited …

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzL7rmpD6Xg&t=89s

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  RDittmar
9 months ago

Also covered in Let the Right One In, which also drops strong hints about physiognomy:

https://youtu.be/JLTtgzY_7-Y

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
9 months ago

Geese, you found the original Swedish version!

The ultra-cool part about its American remake is that it is virtually an identical copy; the sets, the clothes, the dialogue are exactly the same, all excepting the actors and language.

(It may be under the nom “Let Me In.”)

This and “A Cabin In The Woods”-the ultimate horror movie conspiracy theory- are the two best modern ‘horror’ films in the genre. (Cuz not gross or sadistic, as well.)
Include the most stunningly beautiful, visually, “Beyond Humanity”, a zombie movie set in the South…in 1870. (Also no gross stuff.)

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
9 months ago

When used literally, the “deep state” is a great term to differentiate between the elected government and the people who never leave. That they never leave is what makes them “deep.” This is probably 97% of Washington, DC government critters. Their names are not a well guarded secret, nor is what they do, at least in a general sense. The 17 or some ridiculously large number of agencies collectively called “the intelligence community” in the propaganda arm of the state are all part of the “deep state” These people really do exist. We even know many of their names. The… Read more »

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
9 months ago

I continue to be surprised that Z Man wants to dispute the existence of the deep state.

I guess we can debate the difference between unintentional emergent behavior and the coincidence that everyone who gets hired agrees on the important issues, but the result is the same.

Good ol' Rebel
Good ol' Rebel
Reply to  LineInTheSand
9 months ago

Our beloved host does wifflewaffle on the term. Hes done podcasts discussing the deep state and the concept of the deep state (the permanent entrenched bureacracy) is intrinsic to his ideas on managerialism. But he trots out this Q-tardian strawman from time to time for unknown reasons. Here’s an analogy: the mayor changes every 2 years, but the blue-haired business license examiner who sneers at your “cishet” existence finds those extra taxes and surprise forms you didnt fill out in triplicate so she (its ALWAYS a she) has to shut your business down; she has had that job for 15… Read more »

Dutch Boy
Dutch Boy
Reply to  Good ol' Rebel
9 months ago

The problem with these doggone conspiracy theories (a CIA invented term) is they are (almost) all true!

Disruptor
Disruptor
Reply to  LineInTheSand
9 months ago

“continue to be surprised”

There is a pattern. And you see it. But you don’t want the pattern to be what the pattern would mean.

Take a step back and see it in the context of what things indicate that they actually mean.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
9 months ago

The FBI was arresting Japanese fishermen in California for two weeks before Pearl Harbor. They had been listening to the Japanese Navy on shortwave and reporting what they heard to the proper authorities.

B125
B125
9 months ago

Pretty interesting to see Ben Shapiro. He sits around and posts some mildly conservative things to keep content on his pages to keep his business running. But when Hamas bombed Israel, you see his true passion come out. All his other causes are minuscule in comparison, and he will now look insincere when he goes back to them. The “Bomb the Ayrabs” demographic is way smaller than it was back in 2001. America in 2001 was an alien world compared to America in 2023. Many of those people are now demoralized. Many of them are dead, either from age or… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  B125
9 months ago

Shapiro is a loathsome despicable “person” (and I use the term loosely) whose blood lust knows no boundaries. He has no natural audience in the US. He is one of the most fake of all of conservative, Inc media creations. 100% manufactured. He has a face for radio and a voice for writing. His voice is just grating. I have no idea how he is on the air. He is absolutely terrible on his feet when he’s not facing college freshman SJW weirdos. They were pushing him hard with the Sandy Hook thing on Piers Morgan. I went and watched… Read more »

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
9 months ago

He has a face for radio and a voice for writing. His voice is just grating.

Badaaat Badaaat Badaaaaaats All Folks!!!!

(roll closing Warner Brothers brass band music)

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
9 months ago

Shapiro: Questioning is one step away from holocaust denial.

What a curious thing to say.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
9 months ago

“He has no natural audience in the US.”

My brother loves Ben. And Medved. And Savage. And Rantz. Oy vey.

BigJimSportCamper
BigJimSportCamper
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
9 months ago

Well, his sister has a stupendous rack so there’s that.

Diversity Heretic
Member
9 months ago

I tend to discount stories saying that the Mossad, CIA or MI6 new about the Hamas attack but deliberately failed to warn the IDF and nearby communities. On the other hand, I could see Netanyahu looking at the intelligence and calculating that some Hamas attack might be just the thing to shore up his position and turn the weight of the IDF on Gaza. In short, he would have been happy to have had an incident, but he got a catastrophe. I think something similar happened in late 1941. Roosevelt had good intelligence that the Japanese intended to attack, which… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
9 months ago

Odd thing (to me anyway) about the Perl Harbor attack was the grouping (piering) of the battleships together for enhanced protection (Protection against whom? Same with aircraft on fields.), while the few (3) aircraft carriers were sent out on maneuvers without such heavy ship protection. One could easily surmise that the “non-strategic” assets (battleships) remained as a lure, while the strategic aircraft carriers were removed from the threat. Indeed, they were instrumental in stemming the Jap offensive the following year.

But what do I know, I’m a conspiracy theorist.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Compsci
9 months ago

Conspiracy theory or not, one of the more hotly debated topics of the whole affair.

Bunny
Bunny
Reply to  Compsci
9 months ago

Me, too. Everything’s a psyop, I always say. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
But no one ever listens to me.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
9 months ago

Not just Roosevelt, but pretty much everybody in the military/foreign policy braintrust, fully expected the Japanese to attack somewhere. They were well aware that they were goading them into it. Yet it’s still plausible that few if any expected it to be Pearl. The capability of the aircraft carrier as an offensive weapon was still a debated topic, up until that day. And even after, in the UK navy. In spite of its success at Taranto. Hard to believe, but true.

heymrguda
heymrguda
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
9 months ago

Mr. Zoar
—- yes, and most of the aircraft and ships were either obsolescent or obsolete. The battleships were slow wwI vintage and would have been decimated in any engagement with the Japanese fleet as Guadalcanal showed.

Oddly enough there was a squadron of A-20 Havoc attack bombers, state of the art at the time. They were sequestered far away from the harbor and suffered no losses.

heymrguda
heymrguda
Reply to  heymrguda
9 months ago

Sorry I was responding to compsci

Dutch Boy
Dutch Boy
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
9 months ago

But, but.. that means goading the Japanese to attack was a conspiracy and that means you support conspiracy theories!! Don’t you know only nutjobs believe in conspiracy theories (just ask the CIA)?

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
9 months ago

Weren’t they essentially doing the same thing with Getmany? I mean, with sending out lightly guarded supply convoys to England trying to bait the German navy? It’s an area of an era of WW2 before the Americans got involved I’m ashamed to say I’m not too keen on.

Boarwild
Boarwild
Reply to  Forever Templar
9 months ago

Forever Templar – Yes indeed FDR was trying to bait the German Navy into a war; his totally unconstitutional policy of having the U.S. Navy escort British shipping up to a noted demarcation line in the Atlantic + the fact they were ordered to “shoot on sight” any German U-boats either caught on the surface/detected submerged. This policy led to disaster: on October 31, 1941 the destroyer USS Reuben James was escorting a British convoy off Iceland & was torpedoed & sunk by U-552 (Kpltnt Erich Topp commanding). The ship’s bow was blown off & what was left of the… Read more »

Tarl Cabot
Tarl Cabot
9 months ago

Given the sophistication of modern propaganda (i.e, lying) it is almost impossible to tell truth from fiction in politics or war. However, there are some tells. To determine who really wanted this war, look at who escalates it. The Israeli invasion of Gaza is a given, but if Hezbollah responds with thousands of rockets and an all out attack on a second front, that will be a sign that Iran sees an opportunity to pressure Israel in light of US political and material weakness. If, on the other hand, Hezbollah is relatively restrained, but Israel nonetheless uses the Hamas attacks… Read more »

Mike
Mike
Reply to  Tarl Cabot
9 months ago

I don’t think that Israel wants any part of Iran after the events of the last week. They surely are back on their heels looking at the poor performance of the IDF so far. Now too, they have no easy way to attack Iran by airstrike so unless they have ballistic missiles they can’t do much. Any ballistic missiles would likely start a nuclear exchange too. They don’t really want to go after Hezbollah either after their last incursion. Israel now is pretty casualty averse now as they’ve matured as a state. I think Netanyahu wanted a minor incident but… Read more »

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Mike
9 months ago

Last time the Israeli government talked seriously about peace, the head of government was assainated by a crazed hyperzionist. I am not sure that anyone there would be willing to stick their neck out.

Mike
Mike
Reply to  JerseyJeffersonian
9 months ago

Israel needs to muzzle the crazies just as much as the Arab countries need to muzzle theirs. They have too much in common for us to be involved in the their soap opera.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  JerseyJeffersonian
9 months ago

“stick their neck out” is not in their nature. Stick your neck out, on the other hand . . .

Eloi
Eloi
9 months ago

The neocon line about needing to be invited – hilarious. One point I do find unpredictable is if they will go in with tanks. In Lebanon last time (2006, I think), Israeli tanks were brutalized. Imagine how prepared now, especially with (probably) Iranian drones, Hamas could slaughter the tanks in the warrens of a bombed out Gaza. One cannot imagine that even low IQ brutes like Hamas do not anticipate a ground invasion and have been planning for it. I think you are spot on about all of these points you made. This essay is simply a shining overview of… Read more »

Filthie
Filthie
Member
Reply to  Eloi
9 months ago

Yeah that vampire reference was rotten.😂👍

Apparently they already wasted a tank or two if what I heard can be trusted. The footage showed a smouldering Merkava…isn’t that the one that can supposedly go toe to toe with the Abrams? They apparently smoked it with a Kornet missile… and if they can open Merkava’s with them…I’d assume they can do the same with the Abrams? I am beginning to question all the hype about the Abrams…beginning to think all tales of it’s invulnerability is just myth…

Mike
Mike
Reply to  Filthie
9 months ago

The Merkava is the only MBT in the world with its engine in the front. This is supposedly for crew survivabilty reasons but that seems problematic, the crew won’t survive if they’re stranded on the battlefield with no engine.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Filthie
9 months ago

A sick kitten could go toe-to-toe with an Abrams.

Frappee
Reply to  Eloi
9 months ago

Let’s go to Moscow! Let’s go,let’s go let’s go

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  Frappee
9 months ago

And Sabotage is from the 70s. My how times don’t change – sorry, Bob Dylan.
I love Cale – one of my top 5. His most recent album came out earlier in the year. I do not care for hip hop production, but a couple of the tracks are so dang cool and mesmerizing that I cannot help but become entranced. Amazing to think the guy is 81 years old and still sounds so vital.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
9 months ago

One thing the world probably doesn’t need any more of right now is “analysis” of the situation in the Levant or predictions about where it will lead. So I shall not offer any. I am reminded of the GAE invading Grenada on the heels of its Marines being blown up in Beirut. Which is not an analogy. More of a recognition of a personality trait of the empire, if it can be said to possess such. Regarding the pivot away from Ukraine, as we like to say, reality is the thing that persists even when you don’t believe in it.… Read more »

Gespenst
Gespenst
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
9 months ago

Say what you will of Grenada, the US went in, did its thing and left. From anything I heard, the locals were very grateful for the intervention. However, being a successful operation in the Reagan years, the media were loath to even hint that it was, on balance, a good thing.

The Greek
The Greek
9 months ago

Also important, the mizrahi are very traditional and religious, while the ashkenazi are overwhelmingly secular. The mizrahi want to impose traditional Jewish law. However, most importantly is the intense desire for the mizrahi to bulldoze Al-aqsa and rebuild the Temple Mount. As they’ve gained power, they’ve openly talked about this in the Knesset (their parliament) and there are cabinet members that openly talk about it. They’ve had rabbis storm Al-aqsa and claim it for the Jewish people. Let’s put it this way, when the Temple Mount is rebuilt, they must sacrifice 3 Red Bulls, and they already own the bulls.… Read more »

Mike
Mike
Reply to  The Greek
9 months ago

It seems like the zealots in Israel have taken over and become just as unhinged as their fundamentalist enemies. Israel and Iran, two death cults on a collision course it looks like.

Good ol' Rebel
Good ol' Rebel
Reply to  Mike
9 months ago

Not our circus, not our monkeys.

Pozymandias
Reply to  Good ol' Rebel
9 months ago

That would be nice but I fear that, while it’s certainly not our circus, they are going to make *US* the monkeys. You WILL ride that tiny tricycle even if they have to staple your feet to the pedals!

Nick Nolte's Mugshot
Nick Nolte's Mugshot
Reply to  Mike
9 months ago

We should be grateful that we live in a country with sober, level headed leadership and an experienced hand on the rudder of the ship of state like Joe Biden.

Stranger in a Strange Land
Stranger in a Strange Land
Reply to  Nick Nolte's Mugshot
9 months ago

…and Kamala as first mate to Cap’n Joe.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Stranger in a Strange Land
9 months ago

Talk about the skipper and Gilligan!

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  The Greek
9 months ago

Bibi needs the trad settlers; they are armed, and having the children.

I wonder, how many of the kids at the rave were children of his political opponents?

The old Herod tradition at work.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Alzaebo
9 months ago

Well, but the very fact that it was a Rave for Peace should answer the question; i.e., all of them.
Netanyahu fancies himself to be Joshua, a “Put Them All to the Sword” sort of guy.

Carl B.
Carl B.
9 months ago

I don’t give a flying flip about any political split among the Israeli Jews and I despise the filthy Sandnaggers. What I am enjoying is the split among the Bernie Sanders/Goldman/Raskin/Blinken Jews and their pet Naggers vs. The Mark Levin/Ben Shapiro/Lieberman Jews and THEIR Naggers.
The world is insane. Same as it ever was.

Otis Tinel
Otis Tinel
9 months ago

1. There will be mandatory military service in the next few years for all young people. Not really because of conflict with China, Iran, or Russia (though that will be the official reason) but because there will need to a shared experience among Americans.

2. There will be an emphasis put on gatekeeping misinformation and disinformation.

3. Aside from that, nothing much will change. I live in a progressive area and the general consensus is that the conflict in Gaza is caused by white supremacy.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Otis Tinel
9 months ago

In addition to shared experience, the draft may return due to the military desperately needing white competence, which is no longer enlisting. White former patriots have finally wisened up, and are no longer keen on getting their limbs blown off for a regime that hates them.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  DLS
9 months ago

Aha- GI Bill 4.0, since 2.0 (women) and 3.0 (blacks) didn’t work so well.

Maybe the Numerican or Mestizo GI Bill? Service leads to training in the trades? Pipefitters needed!

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Otis Tinel
9 months ago

Saw a story posted on NPR that blamed white supremacy for blacks not maintaining their own septic systems in Alabama. There is nothing that it is incapable of!

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
9 months ago

You gotta love that. White supremacy is to blame because whites (who are in no way superior), are not using their superior abilities to take care of blacks who (while in no way inferior) are unable to maintain their own septic systems due to inferior abilities. I’m going back to bed.

Federalist
Federalist
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
9 months ago

White supremacy is supreme.

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
9 months ago

My home-made corollary to Carl Schmitt’s theory that the Sovereign is the one who declares a State of Exception/Emergency is that the Sovereign is the one who decides whom is worthy of the protection of the Regime.

And it ain’t us, judging by the BLM Riots, Border, Ukraine and now Israel.

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Captain Willard
9 months ago

Spectacular Comment Cap.

filler filler filler filler filler filler for char quota

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
9 months ago

The US is such a terrible ally, it’s hard to believe anyone would want their assistance. The very post child of a Faustian bargain. We’re pretty open about it as well. Global elites know it, but are insulated from the inevitable US pullout at the darkest hour. The US will go to the mat for Israel, however. There will be no pulling out. Epstein Island, anyone? Blackmail and dirty laundry, enough to wreck what’s laughingly described as our ruling class. Not to mention: Russia isn’t interested or stupid enough to fight a direct conflict with the US. But you can… Read more »

Pip McGuigin
Member
Reply to  ProZNoV
9 months ago

Liberals are taught to never let a crisis go to waste. They just never have a solution for the crisis. The crisis is merely a tool to deflect from their current botched crisis. Ad infinitum.

Mr C
Mr C
Reply to  Pip McGuigin
9 months ago

Any forward thinking person should always take advantage of an opportunity, crisis included.

Liberals are a cancer, but this phrase is used to make a normal trait seem malicious.

They don’t need help appearing evil because they clearly are, without taking advantage of crisis.

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
Reply to  ProZNoV
9 months ago

Yeah, it’s hard to ponder the “counterfactuals”, but our grandchildren will wonder why we forsook the cooperation of the Russkies in the ME/Central Asia in order to undertake this absurd NATO expansion etc.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Captain Willard
9 months ago

Tell your grandchildren there was no money laundering opportunity in cooperating with Russia.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
9 months ago

US grand strategy in the Middle East is now in shreds. The US will come out a net loser. Good piece at RT:

https://www.rt.com/news/584701-abraham-accords-israel-us/

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
Reply to  Arshad Ali
9 months ago

Can you really discern a Grand Strategy amidst this wreckage? US policy in ME looks like the Kappa Alpha house party room on Sunday morning.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Captain Willard
9 months ago

Emotion and impulsivity far outweigh any strategy either foreign or domestic these days. What some see as a conspiracy to deliberately fail is simply ad hoc stupidity driven by routine feminine behavior.

Pozymandias
Reply to  Jack Dodson
9 months ago

If you’ve ever been around criminals you know that whatever they’re involved in this week is mostly just an attempt to save their asses from the consequences of what they got up to last week. I think it might help at this point to think of the “policy elite” in DC as not too different from the gangs of thugs who run the crack dens and brothels in the rotting row houses not too far from the capitol building itself.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  Arshad Ali
9 months ago

The “grand strategy” was apparently to appease a tiny fraction of the US population by subsidizing a minute, resource poor country in the ME….while doing immense damage to the remainder of Americans by blowing up our relationships with oil producing and resource rich countries…It worked…

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  pyrrhus
9 months ago

That’s a fair summing up. But remember that that “tiny fraction” wields outsized political and financial leverage, as well as control of media. As for the hoi polloi, they can go to hell, and if they protest, they’re “antisemites.” And to keep them placated, there’s always fentanyl.

someone
someone
Reply to  pyrrhus
9 months ago

The donor class always gets what they want.

That’s our “democracy.”

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Arshad Ali
9 months ago

I actually saw this coming from the crop of lunatics in DC.

I’m really glad I didn’t let myself get talked into a 3-year stint in Saudi that would have begun in January 2022.

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Arshad Ali
9 months ago

The first article on the right nav bar has a picture of a gigantic toad who is quoted to say: “Europe made, ‘a grave mistake’, on immigration.” Oh! The Great Toadster can’t conclude that after multiple billion dollar race riots, countless rapes, and murders and decades of financial predation and the undeniable and totally foreseeable demographic catastrophe in European homelands. No! Only when it affects you and yours Mr. Toad can you see. What a farce this lickspittle masquerading as some new Metternick is. Mr. Toad! Listen up. When you shut down the foundations and reverse the decades of damage… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  RealityRules
9 months ago

Amen. As do I. In the wreckage of these low white proles- rednecks, hillbillies fighting Xanax, fentanyl, divorce, joblessess, lawsuits- yet there is still such promise.

And, they’re talking.
Openly, now. Amongst each other. Sharing knowing looks between complete strangers in passing.

The prepper movement is us pulling ours together, making do with little. As did our ancestors, time and time again.

My race is my religion.

Zaphod
Zaphod
Reply to  RealityRules
9 months ago

“Somewhere, right now a bunch of smart people are thinking through and developing the resources to capitalize on the ever growing set of crisis our foes create.”

道可道,非常道。名可名,非常名。無名天地之始;有名萬物之母。故常無欲,以觀其妙;常有欲,以觀其徼。此兩者,同出而異名,同謂之玄。玄之又玄,衆妙之門。

Fear not… and be of good cheer (but go easy on the Moutai shots… wicked evil shit, that.)

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
9 months ago

Isn’t the demographic situation in the United States quite analogous to the one in Israel, though? The spectacle of the Coalition of the Fringes going full jihad on the Judeo-Puritan ruling class has been delicious, as has been the deplatforming of the COTF and ritual denunciations of its apostates. The Subcons denouncing BLM after embracing it was particularly glorious. A certain Bronze Age Death Cult’s domination of American life has been flushed to the surface and its pets/former pets seem ready to pounce even if they still can be beaten back. The flag-waving yahoos of yore are far less numerous… Read more »

rasqball
rasqball
Reply to  Jack Dodson
9 months ago

“A fading whore with a smaller and smaller circle of bucks…”

Brill.

Almost as good as “As everyone knows, a neocon cannot enter your house uninvited…”

GOAT?

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  rasqball
9 months ago

I’m pulling for “The Brits didn’t do bombing runs over Jamaica, though.”, meself.

Drone swarms in Murica, that’s when this party gets lit. RC toys as miniature Stukas– watch, child, for death from above.

Noam Chomsky
Noam Chomsky
Reply to  Jack Dodson
9 months ago

I think it was the French(Algeria) and is still the French(Mali,Niger) who refuse to acknowledge the loss of empire.

President Mitterand believed France was at war with the hypepower, the US, ever day. Silly man.

The Sahel countries are still paying the French to use their own currencies!

Hun
Hun
9 months ago

What is the difference between Nikki Haley and Donald Trump, when it comes to their positions on Israel?

Tarl Cabot
Tarl Cabot
Reply to  Hun
9 months ago

As I said yesterday, while Trump is very supportive of Israel per se, he is against the broader neocon agenda to spread tribal influence and values worldwide by means of the US military. It is no accident that Trump was impeached (the first time) over Ukraine, because he had stymied their carefully laid war plans.

Trump will not cut off funds to Israel, but he will also not send southern and midwestern white men to die for nothing in Iran. Nikki Haley will do so gleefully.

Hoagie
Hoagie
Reply to  Hun
9 months ago

Trump won’t put us into a land war in the Middle East. And I think Haley’s preferred position is doggy.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  Hoagie
9 months ago

Probably Trump’s biggest (only?) achievement was refusing to get into a war anywhere…

cg2
cg2
Reply to  Hoagie
9 months ago

Hoagie wins “spit take of the day.”

Stranger in a Strange Land
Stranger in a Strange Land
Reply to  Hoagie
9 months ago

Hoagie – kudos on the Haley doggy position word play. Brilliant!

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
Reply to  Hun
9 months ago

Position difference:

Nikki: doggie style
Trump: on his knees

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Captain Willard
9 months ago

Captain Willard is on fire today. Break out some cards and some scotch playing countless hands while gem after scathing gem rolls from his tongue.

Marko
Marko
9 months ago

In the days of old, before postmodern society decided that death is optional and human discomfort is intolerable, 800 people dying in a raid would be a weekly affair. I’m not saying that 800 dead is acceptable, but for perspective’s sake, this was something that happened every now and then. For example Baltimore, Ireland was raided by Barbary pirates in 1631 and hundreds were killed or sold into slavery. There are countless “minor” raids and battles that killed hundreds that no one knows about.

Yet the Gaza raid is worthy of the entire GAE military industrial complex.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Marko
9 months ago

Marko: They seem to have already settled on the major theme: It’s another holocaust. I’ve seen countless headlines/quotes using the term. And they’ve already got the atrocity stories nailed down – babies decapitated, girls raped on top of the dead bodies of their friends. I’m not trying to minimize the carnage – this is a tribal blood feud with hatred and vitriol on both sides. And Hamas is unquestionably brutal and utterly indifferent to any non-mohammedan life. But that people somehow cannot see how quickly the Israeli and US press have settled on “the second holocaust” narrative infuriates me. And… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  3g4me
9 months ago

I lurk at Severian’s site and a few days ago he brought up something quite on point. David “Brooks” was a cheerleader for all the disastrous Middle Eastern wars the United States entered, but his putatively American son fought for the IDF rather than in the conflicts his dad promoted. Strange, that.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Jack Dobson
9 months ago

Which brings up a point I made yesterday in discussion with wife. We hear all this commentary wrt the attack and the endless reminder of US citizens included in the death toll (~25 last count). This of course is to gin up an “America has been attacked” meme, i.e., If not for Israel, then we must avenge our own. What I want to know is how many of these “American” citizens hold *dual* citizenship—American and Israeli! As far as I’m concerned (and once so was the US) you can not hold allegiance to two sovereigns. If you hold a second… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  3g4me
9 months ago

Maybe they are right. Maybe only 800 died in the holocaust?

Marko
Marko
Reply to  3g4me
9 months ago

The Eternal Victim. This is their hierarchy of blessed victimhood:
5. Perceived antisemitism
4. Actual antisemitism
3. Real estate / financial deal / movie deal going or gone bad
2. Getting kicked out
1. Another shoah

DLS
DLS
Reply to  3g4me
9 months ago

“And the stupid mohammedans play into it via indiscriminate killing and calls for global jihad.” Agreed. Until Iran decides nuking Israel will be worth the blowback, the mohammedans are just tilting at windmills.

Xman
Xman
9 months ago

Sen. Lindsey Graham said the other day that “we’re” in a “religious war. Then he said that the U.S. and “Isrul” should jointly bomb Iran.

Between this guy and Nikki Haley… WTF is wrong with you people in South Carolina??

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  Xman
9 months ago

You are forgetting Tim Scott. Henry McMaster has been solid on a lot of issues, although I see he has declared this week Israel solidarity week in South Carolina. Still way above average for them.

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
Reply to  Xman
9 months ago

Don’t forget good old Gen. William Westmoreland, the original SC optimist haha………..

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Xman
9 months ago

My governor Neocon Ron did a little speech where the lectern read “Support Israel / Sanction Iran” which had little flag graphics behind it for extra effect. I’m actually very curious to see if we go to war with Iran, how many people would actually care. Just the politcal-media class and some Boomers, methinks. But I doubt war with Iran will occur. They’ve been trying this for years, and the sober minded (who, up until now, have always won out) know that we’ll do worse in Iran than we did in Vietnam or Iraq (part deux) or Afghanistan, or Ukraine.… Read more »

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  Marko
9 months ago

Iran not only has a real military, its allies include Russia and China…We’re not going there…

DLS
DLS
Reply to  pyrrhus
9 months ago

Iran also has 6 billion freshly printed US dollars on top of the $87 billion in state of the art US military equipment it likely purchased from the Taliban.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  pyrrhus
9 months ago

Iran has impressed me with its weaponry. Their drone “army” is nothing short of an impressive leap frog of traditional battlefield technology. The sort of thing a country lacking material and technological resources, but with some “smart fraction” would concentrate on.

I have no doubt that can put together a nuke PDQ if they obtain enough fissionable material. Faster than North Korea’s effort to be sure.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Marko
9 months ago

A devastating loss for the GAE in Iran could be just the thing. The worse, the better.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
9 months ago

Also, the Iran’s population is at 89M. They are not a small, piss ant country as we are used to bullying. They could put up quite a ground resistance if challenged.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Xman
9 months ago

Well, it’s almost 50% Hutu, for one thing.

Stranger in a Strange Land
Stranger in a Strange Land
Reply to  Xman
9 months ago

X Man – typing from the graaayut, staaayut, of SowC’lina…
you neglected to mention the honorable James Clyburn.
As for WTF is wrong wit us…1/4 – 1/3 Hutu explains a portion (acknowledging Ostei K comment). Lower part of the state overrun with Neo Cons, white libs, and assorted bleeding hearts of all stripes.
As for L Graham – chicken hawk extraordinaire’…I got nothing. There is simply no explanation for that.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Stranger in a Strange Land
9 months ago

Peak Lindsay Graham was when he did a devastating takedown of the jihad against Brett Kavanaugh. It was a great moment when I was glad he was on our side. And then he went back to being a backstabbing, warmongering fag, and Kavanaugh turned out to be a RINO disappointment. Same as it ever was.

Stranger in a Strange Land
Stranger in a Strange Land
Reply to  DLS
9 months ago

You nailed it.
(filler filler filler filler filler)

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  DLS
9 months ago

Consider that if Kavanaugh was really on our side, Lady Bugs wouldn’t have stood up for him like that. He knew exactly what he was doing and why.

Dutch Boy
Dutch Boy
Reply to  Xman
9 months ago

Southerners,man. They don’t ask what the war is about, just about how to get there.

Felix Krull
Member
9 months ago

This has the added benefit of getting the flag waving yahoos excited for the war machine again.

Rumor has it that the Marine Corp is using straight, white males in their recruitment videos again. That’s how serious they take this new War on Terror.

David Wright
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
9 months ago

I live next door to an armed forces recruitment station. Occasionally they take ten or twenty out for a vigorous jog and a lot hoo-ahs. Unless they have some serious technical skills, these kids are cannon fodder.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  David Wright
9 months ago

What’s the mood like in your neck of the woods? Are white guys signing up for this?

David Wright
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
9 months ago

I feel sad when I see the different type of aimless young people. Mostly white but always seem on the small side. A few girls which we know where that is headed.

No decent job prospects, not much of a future for most of them. Frankly it makes me despair, they don’t deserve this. Hey but lots of grilling still going on around here.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  David Wright
9 months ago

Sorry to hear that.

Back when I was a Commie, I read this 2004 piece about Lynndie England, the poster girl for Abu Ghraib. For all the horror stories I’ve read about poverty in America, I’d never heard of poverty draft before.

https://www.joebageant.org/2004/06/11/mash_note_for_t/

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  David Wright
9 months ago

This is for Felix Krull.

Thanks, Felix. I remember reading this very post by Joe (along with numerous other ones) back in the day.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  Felix Krull
9 months ago

OMG! But they’ll still promote the girls, POC, and gays before the whites….

Gespenst
Gespenst
Reply to  pyrrhus
9 months ago

If that promotion bias continues, it will finish the US military, draft or not.

JustMe
JustMe
9 months ago

” As everyone knows, a neocon cannot enter your house uninvited, so they have been searching for a way to get the Republicans to throw out the welcome mat for them.”
I love this! Reminds me of the witch podcast.

right2remainviolent
right2remainviolent
9 months ago

Great analysis here and the only quibble I’d have is that rather than the five cushion bank shot it’s simply opportunism on the other side of the equation that builds up into these moments. We all know shit stirrers in real life that wind people up. It’s not done in an elaborate, game theory tested, multilayered plan; rather spin ’em up and watch ’em go. At some point they’ll create an opening and they can seize the opportunity. That’s what we have in Kagan cult, shit stirring opportunists that are always winding the crank. Sure sometimes there’s authentic blowback, but… Read more »

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  thezman
9 months ago

Neocons, just like a vampire, can’t enter a house uninvited – great analogy. As to the Hamas calculation that the Arab world won’t allow them to be wiped out, it sucks to be Mohammed the plummer and his family now getting blasted six ways from Sunday. Oh well, gotta break a few eggs for the good old omelette…

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  usNthem
9 months ago

I thought it was the dybbuk that couldn’t enter one’s house uninvited. The neocon as dybbuk would make great sense on at least a couple of levels.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  thezman
9 months ago

Especially since the IDF has proven to be highly incompetent at fighting teenage militia, in Lebanon and the West Bank, and its skills seem limited to beating up women and shooting unarmed men and children….

TomC
TomC
9 months ago

Here is a Mexican who joined the Israel army. He said it is a shit show.

https://rss.com/podcasts/manifestoradiopodcast/1149141/

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  TomC
9 months ago

All other indications are that he’s right..Israel’s defense relies almost entirely on its Air Force….

NateG
NateG
Reply to  TomC
9 months ago

Most people who have dealt with them know this. I know people who said this back in the 80’s. Israel is the media darling, and they protect Israel better than the Iron Dome missiles. I would say 1967 was Israels peak, when they invaded three neighboring countries and scored big victories. However, they were third world countries, and when Israel attempted to sink a U.S. ship whose only weapon was one .50 cal MG, they failed. For seveal hours they unseccessfully used planes and gunboats to attack a defenseless ship. Shows how they would fare against a competent foe.

Auld Mark
Auld Mark
Reply to  TomC
9 months ago

Thanks Tom, interesting interview.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
9 months ago

A few more victories like this, and they’ll lose the war!