The Agony Of The Script Writers

The great philosopher Mike Tyson famously said, “Everyone has a plan until I punch them in the face.” He was, of course, paraphrasing the great Prussian field marshal, Helmuth von Moltke, who said, “No plan survives contact with the enemy.” That is an abbreviated version of the original. Some version of this expression no doubt exists in most languages, as it is an essential part of human existence. All plans suffer from the faults of the people making the plans.

We may be seeing this unfold in the Levant, where the Israeli plan to exterminate Hamas and anyone near them is running into trouble. The narrative unleashed on the public was that the attack on the drug rave near Gaza, in which an undetermined number of people were killed, was the red line. The Israelis were now justified in taking any and all necessary steps to eradicate this threat. All media nodes were activated to whip up support for maximum vengeance against Gaza,

Curiously, it was not just Israel whipping support. The Washington regime swung into action with more than just words of support. Every administration official was sent out to cry in public while demanding blood. Word was leaked to regime media that Washington told Tel Aviv they had a green light for anything. They sent two carrier groups the eastern Mediterranean in support of the project. Top diplomats were sent to Israel to express their unwavering loyalty to Israel.

As an aside, the dispatching of two carrier groups to the eastern Mediterranean only makes sense if Washington expects to be in an air war. Given that Hamas lacks an air force, it must mean they are thinking about a neighboring country. There has also been talk about moving another attack group to the northern part of the Indian Ocean, within reach of Iran. You do not need these assets to launch a rescue mission into Gaza and they are not needed to supply Israel with weapons.

You do not have to be a suspicious person to think that maybe there was something else going on here rather than just a response to a terrorist attack. Israel and the Palestinians have been at this for half a century. This Hamas attack was an unusually successful action on their part, but it was not that unusual. They stage these raids all the time, which is why Israel spends enormous amounts of American tax dollars on the world’s most advanced border security.

One possibility is that this Hamas attack was catalyst for a larger narrative developed in Washington for when the time was right. Israel would be seen as pushed into a corner with no choice but to preemptively strike at its enemies. These enemies would be aligned with Iran, which would then come to the aid of them. This would trigger a wider war with Iran, which would be when the United States joined in to attack the nuclear, missile and drone facilities in Iran.

That skeleton of a narrative was quickly filled in with the Hamas attack. Note that regime media was filled with claims about Hamas being an Iranian proxy and that this attack had to be planned by Iran. In reality, Hamas gets its support from Qatar and was a creation of Washington and Tel Aviv. Iran has provided support over the years, but they have little control over Hamas. Few people know this, so these details could be bulldozed by the wave of claims to the contrary.

Israel immediately went to work dropping bombs on Gaza, while saying quite plainly that the intent was to drive the people out of Gaza. According to the pro-Israel media complex, the Palestinians have forfeited their right to exist by their ongoing support of Hamas, so Israel had the right to use any means necessary on them. The rhetoric and immediate actions were over the top, but most likely intended to elicit a response from Iran in support of the Palestinians.

Looking at the rhetoric, Washington must have been thinking that Iran would greenlight Hezbollah to launch cross border attacks from Lebanon. They spent a couple of days warning against such an act. Israel launched some attacks into Lebanon, probably on the same assumption. They also launched an air raid on the Damascus airport, probably for the same reason. The script said Hezbollah would attack so Israel just assumed it would happen and acted accordingly.

Outpacing the script is something we have seen with Ukraine. Washington created a narrative for the Ukrainian offensive last spring, which said that they would burst through Russian defenses and reach the Sea of Azov in a few weeks. This would set off a crisis in Moscow, maybe even topple Putin. They were so sure this would happen they even planned a peace conference in Saudi Arabia, without inviting Russia, in order to determine the terms that would be imposed on Russia.

The great Ukrainian offensive was a disaster, complete with images of burning Western tanks and video of Ukrainian soldiers trapped in mine fields. Instead of marching to the Sea of Azov, the Ukrainians marched into thick minefields without air cover and were destroyed by Russian air power and artillery. It took months for this reality to sink into Washington, so they continued on as if the script was reality. Only recently have they abandoned the script they created last winter.

That is something to keep in mind with this new script. Iran did not take the bait and has instead called for negotiations. Hezbollah has stayed quiet, despite the Israel attacks on their facilities in Lebanon. Instead of offering an excuse for the regime to launch attacks on Iran, the Iranians are backing the play of Russia and China to find a diplomatic solution to the Gaza problem. Washington remains committed to their bit, but it is clear that the Middle East is not playing its part.

Where things go from here is hard to say. The Arab world is slowly figuring out that they are being gas lit by Washington. Biden’s trip to the region was scaled back to just a goodwill visit to Israel. This is happening as the world debates who dropped a missile on a hospital in Gaza, killing hundreds of civilians. Israel says Hamas bombed themselves, while everyone else says it was Israel. Odds are it was Israel, and it was simply a mistake, which happens in war.

Then you have the fact that the IDF does not want to enter Gaza. A ground campaign would be a bloody and expensive project. There is no guarantee of success, given the history of such efforts. There are up to half a million fighting age men in Gaza, which is one of the most densely populated places on earth. Imagine a guerilla war in Manhattan and you have a good idea. It took the Russians six month to take Mariupol and that is a city a quarter of the size of Gaza.

Instead of an excuse to bomb Iran and maybe Syria, the narrative writers are slowly getting boxed in by the diplomatic efforts of Russia and China. Putin has had one-on-one talks with all of the players, including Israel. China is coming in with promises of financial support for the peacemakers. Meanwhile, Washington is saber rattling and carrying on as if their script for this project is reality. It is not a good look and probably why Arab leaders refused to meet with Biden today.

Washington now finds itself on the wrong side of a war that no one really wants, especially the Israelis. As is the case with all of the narratives dreamed up by Washington, this one does not come with an exit ramp. A week of fiery rhetoric in favor of righteous retribution and threats to anyone saying otherwise has left the administration with few options. As with the Ukraine offensive, they may be forced to pretend everything is going according to the script.


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William Ripskull
William Ripskull
8 months ago

So for 4 years I heard liberals claim that Donald Trump’s reckless behavior was going to start WWIII. That sounded like identical claims I heard when Ronald Reagan was taking down the Soviet Union. One note regarding this… both men were anti-government outsiders, Trump absolutely, Reagan more or less. Of course neither man started WWIII and both left the world a safer place regarding foreign policy, because both men projected strength and our enemies feared them. Now we put a weak, self-serving, corrupt, lifelong government bureaucrat with deep connections to the deep-state and neocons (who are really Trotskyites) and all… Read more »

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  William Ripskull
8 months ago

“we are involved in two major wars”

Nah, “major war” doesn’t mean what you seem to think it means.

Bruce Banner
Bruce Banner
Reply to  William Ripskull
8 months ago

Amen brother. You are right on.

rasqball
rasqball
Reply to  William Ripskull
8 months ago

“Generals gathered in their masses…just like witches at Black Masses…”
War Pigs, indeed…

c matt
c matt
Reply to  William Ripskull
8 months ago

Trump did not project strength (some) so much as projected an attitude that he was willing to talk with you. As much as he was pilloried by allies and domestics, the foreign leaders who counted (Putin and Xi) did not dismiss him like they did.

Seymour
Seymour
8 months ago

I love how you keep priggishly referring to Hamas’s murder spree as being on a ‘drug rave.’ I can’t tell if this is because you want to sound like Andrew Anglin or because you resent people who have a life beyond going to work and blogging about politics.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Seymour
8 months ago

Sure looked like a drug rave to me. That was the upside for Israel. No one there was likely to be much of a loss.

Yman
Yman
8 months ago

Blinken is talking about he is a Jew and the Gaza thing just self-defense for Israel on TV will make sure that the entire Arab world united against America
whole Biden cabinet fills with Jew makes thing worse every time, Russia won’t miss chance to show the world that America is real bogeyman

apparently handed over custodianship to Jews is a way to more easily die, who knew

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Yman
8 months ago

“The Gaza thing” IS just self-defense for Israel. What’s your point?

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Gandydancer
8 months ago

I guess his point is with friends like jews running your country, who needs suicide bombers.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  c matt
8 months ago

#I’d# guess your brains are running on empty if you think that’s the natural conclusion to be drawn from the observation that Israel is defending itself in this affray.

hokkoda
Member
8 months ago

The Biden trip over there had a two-part purpose. – Hamas is a US creation and we need to stall the Israelis to protect their Hamas investment. Jordan and Egypt canceled their meetings with the Biden regime because the Biden regime was insisting they let Palestinian refugees into their countries. Both Jordan and Egypt have spent the last 10 years (since Obama’s “Arab Spring” attempt to put the Muslim Brotherhood in charge) trying to purge their countries of these murderers…and have been fairly successful. Letting the “refugees” in simply means they would be forced to re-radicalize their population. Telling Biden… Read more »

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  hokkoda
8 months ago

“The US reaction resembles some late 1980’s response, just lacking the USS New Jersey lobbing 500lb shells from off shore…”

That sounded low, unless only the secondary armament was used, so I looked it up. And it seems the projectiles fired by the USS New Jersey’s main guns weighed from 1,900 to 2,700 lb.

SuperPatriotQ
SuperPatriotQ
Reply to  hokkoda
8 months ago

Don’t forget they used those decapitated baby heads to make ramen broth (I hear it takes three days).

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  SuperPatriotQ
8 months ago

I hear that you think you are funny. Or something.

george 1
george 1
8 months ago

Well Putin just noted that the two U.S. carrier strike groups in the Eastern Mediterranean are now within range of Kinjal missiles. He said that was not a threat and that he was only relaying information from the Russia Air Force.

So if the U.S. is smart they might not want to target/attack Syria. But who said the U.S. was smart.

hokkoda
Member
Reply to  george 1
8 months ago

Interesting historical side note. I was on a business trip about 20 years ago with a colleague from work. We were both in government contracting at the time and I forget why we had linked up. Anyway, over breakfast I noticed he recoiled when the waitress asked if he wanted the egg special. I asked what that was about. Turns out, he was the American shot down over Syria in 1983 in his A6 Intruder. When he crashed he was unconscious and pretty busted up. The Syrians recovered him and put him in a cell, but he was out for… Read more »

hokkoda
Member
Reply to  hokkoda
8 months ago

He also hated Jessie Jackson, who was the person responsible for getting him out of Syria. Jackson was running for President at the time and asked my friend to join Jackson on a campaign stop in Louisiana. They offered to cover the costs. So, he flew down there (not cheap) and appeared on stage for several stops. After things wrapped up, he asked to be reimbursed for his travel. Jackson and the campaign wouldn’t return his calls and refused to pay up. It was at that moment that he realized how politics works and avoided it ever since. Which reminds… Read more »

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  george 1
8 months ago

US ATACAMS artillery reportedly blew up a few Russian helicopters in [formerly] Ukrainian soil.

No doubt located, aimed, and fired by US operatives.

If I didn’t know better (I don’t actually know much), I’d say Vlad is telling the US to back the F off.

Genuinely curious to know if a hypersonic missile would hit/sink a US carrier, however.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  ProZNoV
8 months ago

Maybe one wouldn’t, but a shitload of them certainly would.

Saw H.R. McMaster on a Hoover Institution podcast advocating using the USN to escort humanitarian aid into Ukraine through the Black Sea. He didn’t seem to grasp that the issue at the time was getting safe passage for Ukrainian grain OUT of Ukraine but, never mind that, fish in a barrel is what came to mind.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  george 1
8 months ago

To be clear, Syria doesn’t have Kinjals so you seem to be suggesting that Russia would attack US carriers if the US attacked Syria.

Which is nuts.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Gandydancer
8 months ago

Given that Putin has tolerated quite a bit of US shenanigans to avoid a direct confrontation, he is not likely to.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
8 months ago

p.s.- that hospital, the Al-Ahli Arab Baptist Hospital, was built by and for Palestinian Arab Christians;

Bethlehem and Joseph’s Tomb are sited in Palestina, as is the actual tomb of Jesus’ family in the Pali half of Jerusalem.

Remember, under the GWOT the surviving Mideast Christian populations were slaughtered or sold off as slaves.

george 1
george 1
Reply to  Alzaebo
8 months ago

Yes they were. When the GAE tried to remove ASSAD, ISIS attacked and decimated Christian communities that had been there since shortly after Christ walked the earth. Yazidis as well.

You know, when you want to make an omelet you have to break a few eggs.

Guest
Guest
8 months ago

Follow the money. The 10 year treasury nearly crossed 5% today on continued weak demand. The last time the 10 year treasury was this high was 2007, and we all remember what happened next.

There will be war. Washington desperately needs an overseas war to drive the flight to safety demand for treasury bills. A regional conflict in the Levant would be just what the doctor ordered for the bond market.

Baker Shakey
Baker Shakey
Reply to  Guest
8 months ago

this is the 21st century, remember?

hokkoda
Member
Reply to  Guest
8 months ago

The problem they’ve got is people got wise to the scam after the Bush years. Then they elected Obama and got more of the same. The jig was up when Obama/Clinton tried to go to war with Libya and had to put a Canadian General in charge while lying about “boots on the ground”. They killed Qaddafi and collapsed North Africa into chaos. Ukraine enjoys zero popular public support. The popularity numbers approach “rectal cancer” in the polling once you throw in US military direct combat involvement. The only people showing up in the polls supporting it are a) Government… Read more »

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  hokkoda
8 months ago

Apparently the Chinese real estate market is in free fall, because of all the little girls who were being murdered about 25 years ago, under the 1-child policy.

Fast forward a quarter of a century, and the young Chinese couples who ought to be purchasing housing right now simply don’t exist.

Hokkoda
Member
Reply to  Bourbon
8 months ago

They also built all those ghost cities in the 2000’s – huge construction projects with apartment towers and so forth. It seemed like a great way to put people to work on government projects. But it probably created a glut in supply. Fewer buyers + over supply = housing crash. See also: 8% mortgage rates in the USA. There are a lot of indicators that we are on the brink of repeating the 2008/9 crisis. Small banks have been going under all year (ie being purchased by TBTF banks). But that just transfers the risk to TBTF banks. They’re in… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  hokkoda
8 months ago

Short of a draft, the ZOG/GAE simply can’t do WW III. And a draft is both politically and practically impossible.

OTOH/IMHO
OTOH/IMHO
Reply to  Guest
8 months ago

” drive the flight to safety demand for treasury bills.” You think piling on additional trillions to the immensely bloated national debt to feed the MICF pigs at the trough is going to do anything but add to inflation? When has inflation done anything for a country’s bonds? (P.S.: ask Argentina. Or Zimbabwe.)

Gideon
Gideon
8 months ago

Just as with any random country you might pick in Central and South America, Israel’s existence depends in no small part on the people who live there. Israel is unique in that its people have been mostly dwelling somewhere else for the last 2,000 years. So the first thing you might fail to notice when we talk about Israel is that Ashkenazi (Central European) Jews may not have all that much in common with the Sephardi (Iberian) or the Mizrahi (Middle Eastern) Jews, even genetically. From such oversights, it is easy to suppose that Jewish decision-makers (the Ashkenazim among them… Read more »

Disruptor
Disruptor
Reply to  Gideon
8 months ago

Let’s hope that this time America comes to the side of the Germans.

We already know too much about various groups of demonic denizens and diaspora of that region. We need to cut all them off. Return them. Give’em all a bunch of foam rocks and let’em to do their thing.

The Battle of Megiddo was already fought in 15th century BC between Egyptian forces under the command of Pharaoh Thutmose III and a large rebellious coalition of Canaanite vassal states led by the king of Kadesh. .

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Gideon
8 months ago

“…Joe Biden is up to the task…”

Ho ho! You are a one, Gideon! Bah gum.

hokkoda
Member
Reply to  Gideon
8 months ago

Biden isn’t up to the task of holding a simple friendly interview on 60 Minutes. Did you see that joke of an interview last week? They basically excused away his various disasters and answered his questions for him. The best thing for the world that can happen is for Israel to take a step back, thank Jordan and Egypt for refusing to take in refugees, and then kill all of the Hamas government and military leaders in Gaza and Qatar. They’ve already been shown (by Trump) that bilateral peace deals are possible. Nobody has to die for these fanatics and… Read more »

OTOH/IMHO
OTOH/IMHO
Reply to  hokkoda
8 months ago

“The more I think about it, the more I think that this operation was another attempt to get Netanyahu out of power. ” You mean so an even more truculent right-winger can be installed? (Jesus, any time you’re ready, please feel free to return)

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Gideon
8 months ago

You might usefully read this.

https://www.unz.com/ebook/oddities-of-the-jewish-religion-ebook/

His piece on Hitler’s solution is also worth a look.

https://www.unz.com/ebook/jews-and-nazis-ebook/

Both are free downloads.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
8 months ago

I tell you, this has nothing to do with the Straits of Hormuz or the offshore oil deposits from the coast of Gaza to Cyprus.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
8 months ago

Just as the Golan Heights- the site of Har Megiddo- had nothing to do with Genie Energy.

Mr. House
Mr. House
Reply to  Alzaebo
8 months ago

And the syrian civil war had nothing to do with building a pipeline thru it to Europe which would have cut off Russias profit machine.

Rummy
Rummy
Reply to  Mr. House
8 months ago

Nor the Afghan war anything to do with Condeleeza Rice, Conoco, and a pipeline from Khazakstan thru Kandahar to offload at Karachi.

Whiskey
8 months ago

Z-man, I think you are like many of the comments here still trapped in the 20th Century. If the first half of the 20th Century was ideological wars, the second half was the war of non-Whites vs. Whites, with Whites nervously kicking the can down the road. The 21st Century is running out of road. What normie in the US saw was a bunch of non-Whites, yelling “derka derka derka Mohammed Jihad” killing a bunch young women, and abducting the rest for r@pe and murder. Killing young mothers and children, family dogs, abducting grandmothers in wheelchairs, all livestreamed by those… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Whiskey
8 months ago

The champion of the donors/Saturday people and their hope to unseat the reign of The Precious is none other than the Countess of Chappaqua, HRC herself. So if one is interested in an alliance of convenience with the small hats, that’s who with

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  Whiskey
8 months ago

This is a Golem that the Saturday people created, I don’t care if it turns on them.

george 1
george 1
Reply to  Whiskey
8 months ago

So Hamas is controlled by Iran? Then why were they dispatched to attack Assad alongside ISIS in Syria? For being controlled by Iran the Hamas group seems to “accidentally” aid the West in its’ goals from time to time. Also Turkey has provided lots of assistance to Hamas but I doubt we are preparing to attack them. The larger point, I believe, in Z Man’s article is the strategic situation at this time. The two aircraft carrier groups, the many F-35s moved into Jordan and other air assets from Europe being moved into the theater suggest the target is not… Read more »

OTOH/IMHO
OTOH/IMHO
Reply to  george 1
8 months ago

“There we have children playing with matches in a room full of TNT.” Well, you might think they have been doing it for some time, and with impunity. If no one told me otherwise, I would have guessed the Damascus airport was a practice IAF bomb site. (Imagine if this happened every other month at LAX!)

mikew
mikew
Reply to  Whiskey
8 months ago

Hamas is not controlled by Iran unless you listen to John Kirby, who swear that Iran support Hamas but can provide no support.

It’s all about Israel conning the USA into removing another enemy. That’s what Iraq was all about, as well as Libya and Syria and the dumb suckers in the Christian evangelical movement fall right in line.

Since Jewish people don’t consider themselves white , the Rave victims weren’t white either. Do you lack sympathy for them also?

george 1
george 1
Reply to  mikew
8 months ago

Their current gambit is to finally rid themselves of their Palestinian issue. Most likely by shipping the Gazans to Europe and America.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  george 1
8 months ago

george1, cue Nikki Haley- our historic first woman president of color!, the US version of Rishi Sunak- bravely and virtuously calling for Palestinian extradition to the US.

We’ve become the dumping ground for the Third World’s (oligarch-useful) trash.

george 1
george 1
Reply to  Alzaebo
8 months ago

Yes indeed. Notice the Palestinians are the most terrible, awful, no good, very bad people for Israel. But they are A-OK for America.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  mikew
8 months ago

“Since Jewish people don’t consider themselves white…”

I highlighted that claim and gave it to duckduckgo and it located this video (link below) claiming that according to surveys 95% of American Jews identify as White. Since that accords with my perceptions I didn’t check further. But I think you ought to look more questioningly at the shit you pull out of your ass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jgM_37wGOE&t=55s

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Gandydancer
8 months ago

They identify as White until it matters.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Bilejones
8 months ago

If you think that redeems mikew’s claim you’re as dumb as your dog.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Whiskey
8 months ago

Of course Obama hates white people; his white grandparents and mother, all CIA assets, allowed him to be sold as a child sex toy, an “asset”.

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  Alzaebo
8 months ago

Sources? Not doubting ( I generally believe in CIA child trafficking and mkultra), but I have never heard this. I would like to learn more.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Eloi
8 months ago

“Not doubting”?

LOL!

CatBretStephens
CatBretStephens
Reply to  Whiskey
8 months ago

I’m going to join the community micturition on the “Hamas is an Iranian proxy” line. By all evidence they are the organic gangster self-expression of the mostly lawless main hoods in Gaza and some of the West Bank; these places work like Ulster. Despite their “low IQ” and trash culture they are quite skilled at playing rope-a-dope with Israeli intel, serving them up Islamic Jihad patsies for example. I doubt the McCainiac war dreams catch on. There are two real concerns, 1) Syria = Russia in the minds of Beltway bugs, 2) Israel is looking to export surplus Gazans to… Read more »

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  Whiskey
8 months ago

Thanks for War and Peace 2.0.

Rodney King
Rodney King
Reply to  Whiskey
8 months ago

The vast majority of males in Europe aged between 14-45 are not Muslims/African Laughably inaccurate.

The confidence with which you pluck these takes out of your ass…

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Whiskey
8 months ago

“The vast majority of males ages 14-45 are Muslim and/or African in most of Europe.”

What is the color of the sky on YOUR world?

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Whiskey
8 months ago

The (((Saturday People))) hate Whites more than the non-whites do (who do you think stokes the flames?) and have done far more damage to White civilization and its people. If an alliance of convenience has to be made, I think you have it bass-ackwards.

Reziac
Reziac
8 months ago

Yet if Israel had simply bombed Gaza flat the very next day, everyone else would have gone, “Uh, okay,” and we wouldn’t be having this problem.

JDaveF
JDaveF
8 months ago

What if Iran already HAS a nuclear weapon(s)? For sure they have “the poor man’s nuke” – chemical weapons, in abundance.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  JDaveF
8 months ago

If they could muster the scratch, and the GAE couldn’t interdict it, I’ve little doubt North Korea would sell them one

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
8 months ago

2004: Teheran’s brand new billion-dollar airport is closed down on its first day.

Reason? The first thing to land was a shipment of North Korean uranium for enrichment by Iranian cyclotrons.

The hazmat handling equipment authorized by Al Gore for Pakistan and Iran hadn’t arrived yet; so the unloaders clumsily dumped the radioactive material in the landing zone, closing it for a year.

Plus! At the time, Iran had the largest missle array; they had delivery, but not the bomb, so they resorted to buying up the old Baikanoor Soviet warheads thru third parties in Kazakhstan.

Nicholas Name
Nicholas Name
Reply to  JDaveF
8 months ago

If Iran becomes an acknowledged nuclear power, Saudi Arabia will immediately take possession of their warheads from the Pakistani nuclear program they financed.

Who has “Middle East Nuclear Arms Race” on their bingo card?

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Nicholas Name
8 months ago

Yes! And with the Chinese building submarines in Pakistan, there is the offshore delivery, along with COSTCO container ships.

This BRICS alliance is becoming a tad more toothy.

cg2
cg2
Reply to  Alzaebo
8 months ago

COSCO
No giant packs of TP.

OTOH/IMHO
OTOH/IMHO
Reply to  Nicholas Name
8 months ago

A horrific thought. And to think that none of this might have happened had JFK, who believed in enforceable non-proliferation, not been assassinated. Alzaebo’s suggestion that North Korea has been shipping uranium ore to Iran for enrichment is silly. If they were intent on causing trouble, they could ship finished nukes, and the very thought of this creates the specter of nuclear war- “preemptive” yet, on a grand scale.

mikew
mikew
Reply to  JDaveF
8 months ago

Yes, the Iranians have chemical weapons since they used them in response to the chemical weapons deployed by the Iraqis in the 80s war. Chemical weapons that we helped the Iraqis build. Chemical weapons are little threat to the USA or Europe. Back in the hysteria for GW 2 chemical weapons were ridiculously conflated with true WMDSs – nuclear weapons, neither of which Saddam had anyway.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  mikew
8 months ago

It is all pretty lame to be honest. These weird “rules” around war are comical to me. I can kill you with this, but not that. Do you suffer any less taking multiple rifle rounds that are tumbling around in your torso creating massive wound channels than if your nervous system shuts down in seconds from VX gas? Arguably, the VX gas is a more merciful death as its not terribly different than zapping a roach with Raid. Likewise, is a flamethrower somehow less humane than being hit by a barrage of cluster bomb fragments? How about an artillery barrage?… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Apex Predator
8 months ago

Generally the use or prohibition of a weapon in war is based on its ability (or lack thereof) to cause collateral damage which, ostensibly, warmongers try to minimize. The bullet can be precisely aimed; the chemical weapon can waft to places unknown and contaminate for long periods.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  JDaveF
8 months ago

Chemical weapons are not the poor man’s nuke.

“Weapons of mass destruction” is total bullshit — an attempt to steal the significance of nukes and smear it on weaponry that doesn’t remotely justify it.

Dante
Dante
8 months ago

I have no doubts that the satanic jews blew up that hospital on purpose. The jews have no belief in the intrinsic value of human beings who aren’t jewish. They look at the rest of us as farm animals to be worked or slaughtered based on their whims. jews only abuse, steal and destroy; The Lord God will vanquish them and their master satan at the end of days, using God-fearing people as His vessels.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Dante
8 months ago

You missed a step. The AntiChrist is a culture, whose values are accepted by goyim. Not a singular man or entity like a Bond villain, Nicolai Carpathia, or Gavin Newsome. Like Jesus or Allah are the faces of a culture. The political vision of the AntiChrist manifested physically in 1948 as a certain State. Culturally, the White world accepted Its dominion, its values, as did our Aryan Israelite tribal ancestors in the past. This is what we call the Judeo-Puritans, or the Rhodes Societies, or the Free Masons. The Whites were promised that they could rule openly… But only under… Read more »

OTOH/IMHO
OTOH/IMHO
Reply to  Alzaebo
8 months ago

The Antichrist, written by Friedrich Nietzsche, was translated from the German by H.L. Menken for the publisher Knopf (Borzoi Books). His amazing introduction is nearly as long as Nietzsche’s work, and full of his typically sardonic humor. He mentions that Nietzsche, the son of a Christian clergyman, had intensively studied the scriptures and came away wondering if Christ had been the only Christian. [There are plenty masquerading as such these days, and with broadcasting networks, yet.]

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Dante
8 months ago

“No doubt”, again.

You are another loon.

The hospital, btw, doesn’t appear to have been blown up.

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
8 months ago

They stage these raids all the time, which is why Israel spends enormous amounts of American tax dollars on the world’s most advanced border security.

This burns my balls! While our “border” with Mexico is basically a “welcome mat.”
We need to get the monkey called Israel off our back.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Vinnyvette
8 months ago

Israel isn’t why the US border is a “welcome mat”.

Disruptor
Disruptor
8 months ago

Blaming “Washington” perpetuates the problem.

It’s not “Washington.” It’s Jewish special interest groups’ control over the apparatus of culture and governance.

vinnyvette
vinnyvette
Reply to  Disruptor
8 months ago

And Washington is squarely to blame for that!

Disruptor
Disruptor
Reply to  vinnyvette
8 months ago

The federal government was setup to be a supreme power. It’s but a very few people people to control outcomes. A couple hundred+ to make a law. 5 supreme court judges. One district judge gunks up immigration control. The diamond merchants simply have to cleave off the decision they want by tapping the hammer at strategic points. Bribes, blackmail, or badthings happen. Biden’s gonna give a hundred billion aid package for Isra’craine. How Americans many want that? Who does want that grift? Why do we give so much to so small a number? The problem is telling the truth. Which… Read more »

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Disruptor
8 months ago

The claim that your problem is to any significant extent Jewish interest groups is not “the truth”. It’s a distracting lie.

Jon Ecklin
Jon Ecklin
8 months ago

One thing not mentioned her, but related, is that Ukraine is slowly winning the war. The U.S. supplied missiles have led to numerous crushing victories.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-avdiivka-attacks-8b5fd038c7e496dcb8f015b759b74666

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Jon Ecklin
8 months ago

If anything even remotely resembling Uke victory was occurring, I’m sure it would be trumpeted from the heavens

Winter
Winter
Reply to  Jon Ecklin
8 months ago

“One thing not mentioned here, but related, is that Ukraine is slowly winning the war.”

We’ve also been reliably informed that diversity is our greatest strength and that hairy dudes in sundresses are women, so, uh, yeah. This totally checks out.

mikew
mikew
Reply to  Jon Ecklin
8 months ago

This site needs a sarc tag.

OTOH/IMHO
OTOH/IMHO
Reply to  Jon Ecklin
8 months ago

The only winner in this war is the MIC. Americans share the same sort of guilt as the parents of the children of Hamlin in The Pied Piper for sitting on their hands and letting them get away with it: trillions poured down the rathole- literally blown to smithereens- instead of rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure, our power grid, our industrial and agricultural capacity- and all adding to soaring inflation because of the trillions in new debt, as if people had no idea where it was coming from.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Jon Ecklin
8 months ago

From your link: “Dozens of Russian military personnel were injured in the attack codenamed Operation Dragonfly, it said.”

Dozens! If it’s true that sounds convincingly like winning a war.

To a bozo like you, anyway.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Jon Ecklin
8 months ago

I do like satire.
Play again soon.

Vizzini
Member
8 months ago

Instapundit has been overflowing with “Wipe Gaza off the map” type posts and comments. It’s tiresome.

Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Vizzini
8 months ago

I was wondering about that, but not enough to check. I mean my memory is bad but getting played by the Iraq Attaq is still pretty fresh in my mind, but for the handful of non-Jews over there it’s like it never happened.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Vizzini
8 months ago

Ace has similarly been all aboard the Jew train. It’s as if it’s still 2003 for these guys.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  KGB
8 months ago

They’re clear examples of the standard DR point that Republican-Americans have been made to displace their survival/revenge/domination/etc. instincts—all their metaphorical “blood”—into Zionism. The Jews™, from IDF to ADL, Chabad to Mossad, aren’t their proxy army but their proxy *selves*.

Professional-class conservative anti-whiteness, the oft-expressed desire to repair America with hard-working high IQ legal immigrants who’ll do the jobs that lazy white trash losers on drugs with no skin in the game won’t do (etc.), is what The Jews think of *them*.

We get what they deserve.

mikew
mikew
Reply to  Vizzini
8 months ago

IP has gone full Israeli. It’s simply un-readable kill all them Gazan agitprop. Before this it was frequents posts about how dumb Putin is how he is losing the war, …

Mr. Generic
Mr. Generic
8 months ago

The world has changed and the script writers are just now starting to realize it. Firstly: The Internet. Now actual video of the incident spread around the world faster than the official narrative. It really doesn’t matter whether Israel intentionally bombed the hospital or why. Everyone has seen the videos of mangled corpses and an ordnance drop that sounds just like a JDAM. Somebody screen-shotted the now-deleted tweet of the Israeli spokesman bragging about the strike. The entire world is blaming Israel. Second: The changing demographics. Boomer sympathy for Jews or Israel as perpetual victims just doesn’t exist like it… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Mr. Generic
8 months ago

Who knew that the bud of “anti-semitism” that burst into a flower would come from the “left” and not from the “right”? It probably was predicted, at some point, by some obscure dissident blogger. Only Nixon could go to China, ya know.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
8 months ago

The white left has for decades already positioned itself to behave anti-Jewishly on behalf of someone else, to resist badJews (Israelis, Republicans) as “colonizers,” etc.—to hold Jews to their own rhetoric, though few realize that’s what they’re doing. If they did know, they couldn’t bring themselves to do it. To the white non-left, even abjection—groveling before the superior ethno-nationalist: “Right, as you say, but for us too, for everyone, because we’re all people aren’t we?”—is forbidden. Has any previous time the academic/etc. left joined in the anti-Jewish ululations of Islam been a step in the right direction? Not evidently. Their… Read more »

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
8 months ago

The left always canibalizes it’s own… you heard it here first!

Filthie
Filthie
Member
Reply to  Mr. Generic
8 months ago

Just so, Mr. G. I think it was some blonde twat writing for MSNBC this morn saying, “We really need to sit down with our kids and talk about antisemitism….”. Presumably she would tell such parents what to say on the subject. Another change is that the world is unconcerned with narratives and gate keepers. My question is this: do the other big geopolitical players understand that a lot of America’s Globohomo predation and opportunism was driven by the jews? If they do get wise to the fact that Globohomo is just an extension of the Jewish mob…will they take… Read more »

Jklp1943
Jklp1943
Reply to  Filthie
8 months ago

I am so sick of that stupid word, “narrative”. It’s just fucking lies, propaganda, bullshit, whatever. Lies, upon lies upon lies. Replace that idiotic word with lies and it’ll make more sense.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jklp1943
8 months ago

Narratology is an invention of the postmodernists, and such folk do not believe truth exists. For them, reality is merely a text, and narrative is simply an extended text. It is an index of pomo influence that the term narrative is now so commonplace.

Anna Appleberg
Anna Appleberg
Reply to  Mr. Generic
8 months ago

Wait until growing numbers of Americans suspect or even fully recognize Jewish involvement in JFK and 9/11. Just those two operations alone.

Mordechai
Mordechai
Reply to  Mr. Generic
8 months ago

Devon Stack at Blackpilled has been going hard the last 4 streams. Up for free at Odysee.
Highly recommended.

manc
Reply to  Mr. Generic
8 months ago

There’s an interstate billboard I pass regularly that says something like “Jews are 2.4% of the population yet 55% of the victims of hate crimes”…everytime I see it I have two thoughts:
1) 55% seems low, given behavior
2) we can get that number up!

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Mr. Generic
8 months ago

“Everyone has seen the videos of mangled corpses and an ordnance drop that sounds just like a JDAM.”

Not me. What I’ve seen is a burned out parking lot and a hospital still mostly undamaged. And a video of rockets being launched from Gaza and an explosion under their path, maybe a short. I’m open to examining evidence that the disproof is fake, but you are going to need more than the I-want-it-to-be-true that you’re exhibiting.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Mr. Generic
8 months ago

The line I use is: It’s not “anti-semitism, it’s counter-semitism.

That usually shuts them up.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Bilejones
8 months ago

In your own account you are a paladin, but I doubt that very much.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
8 months ago

“Odds are it was Israel, and it was simply a mistake, which happens in war.” That’s a very generous assumption. AFAIK, this would not be the first time a school or hospital was targeted in the areas where the Palestinians are. 80 years of tit for tat exchanges tends to harden the hearts of those involved. Both sides have committed what the other sides sees as atrocities. It doesn’t involve us and it shouldn’t be our problem. This is what happens when you let foreigners into your country. Their problems become your problems. Why the hell are there protests in… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
8 months ago

Tars: This x 1000. Honestly, I don’t particularly care whether the Palestinians accidentally bombed their own hospital, whether Israel did it accidentally or deliberately. I just don’t care who is ‘responsible’ for the latest ‘atrocity.’ I have feud, war, atrocity, victim, and internationalism fatigue. We have rampant inflation, a klown show on steroids in DC, millions of brown people pouring over the border, a major crisis in competence, and I’m supposed to give f**k about two groups of aliens who hate each other? I’m supposed to pick a side? How about taking my own side? The side of White people,… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  3g4me
8 months ago

Agreed. I have little interest in lowercase politics, myself. However, we both care very much about uppercase Politics or we wouldn’t be here. It’s the macro not the micro, that is important to us.

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  3g4me
8 months ago

I spend much more time reading on how to improve my luck fishing for bass and learning songs for my band. If it does not concern the welfare of White people, I am not interested.

“This is what happens when you let foreigners into your country.”

Exactly, Tars. There is no “America” or “United States”. it’s just an international shopping mall being looted by the scum of the earth. There is no unity or national identity. It’s just a mixture of global tribes who hate each other and are being forced to co-exist.

OTOH/IMHO
OTOH/IMHO
Reply to  3g4me
8 months ago

Adlai Stevenson, of the rare species known as the Moderate Democrat, said “Your public servants serve you right.” Swearing to become non-involved means doing nothing about the jokers who would willingly add unlimited new trillions to the national debt, which goes straight to the cost of living.
This means a focus on domestic priorities, and an insistence on electing candidates with a peaceful bent- and preferably who live modestly and have a track record of efficiency and budgetary restraint in their own spheres of activity.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  OTOH/IMHO
8 months ago

Funny, no matter how much I insisted it was still Trump v Biden in 2020.

Gideon
Gideon
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
8 months ago

I’ve read the U.S. military has been targeting hospitals since the Vietnam War. (They just carpet bombed everything in WW II, so if they hit a few hospitals that would have been merely incidental.) It’s where the wounded enemy fighters are taken after you blast them, so it would make sense to them I guess.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Gideon
8 months ago

A smart strategist is supposed to prefer wounded enemy soldiers to dead ones, since the enemy has to expend more resources to care for the wounded than for the dead. Thus killing them in hospital seems counterproductive.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
8 months ago

Yeah, but the folks Gideon are reading are also too dumb to realize that.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
8 months ago

Odds were it wasn’t Israel, even before the evidence that it wasn’t Israel came out. If Israel wanted to kill Gazans… well, Gaza is densely packed, so why choose a hospital?

Z’s statement is anyway a bit interesting, given that he is normally pretty dismissive of the Jews-on-the-brain types, despite their being so common on his comment threads. (Recognizing that Z said it was probably a mistake, not a choice.)

The Real Bill
The Real Bill
8 months ago

“Not my people, not my problem.” The internet is full of people stridently attempting to make the case for two opposite conclusions: “Israel displaced the Palestineans from their rightful homeland, boxed them into what amounts to a prison camp in Gaza, and has been displacing, murdering, and oppressing innocent Pals for years. The Palestinean people have every right to fight back to regain what is rightfully theirs. The Israelis are finally getting what they deserve.” versus: “Two wrongs don’t make a right. No matter what crimes the Israelis may have committed, brutally murdering innocent Israeli citizens is not a valid… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  The Real Bill
8 months ago

I prefer “Ain’t my people, ain’t my problem” It just has a better ring to it.

As I said in a different comment, this is why you must keep foreigners out of your country. Their problems inevitably become your problems.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
8 months ago

Yep, astute observation. One that is not limited to the Palestinian—Israeli conflict. How many can we come up with? I seem to remember the Armenians squabbling with the Turk’s over their 100 yo genocide in the streets of LA a couple of decades ago. Periodically, the Hasidic’s in New York riot against the Blacks as they inevitably push the Blacks out of their historical neighborhoods.

I’m sure others with better memories can add to these examples.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Compsci
8 months ago

The term “historically black neighborhood” is absolutely infuriating to me.

1) Why can’t we have our rights to historically White neighborhoods?

2) Almost all of the “historically blacks neighborhoods” are actually only black for a few decades. They were neighborhoods where White people were ethnically cleansed.

Next time you are sitting in traffic, remember to thank the ethnic cleansing that pushed White people into the ridiculous suburbia.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
8 months ago

Depends on how long you consider “historical”. I’ll retract that word. Just call it Black neighborhoods. As the Blacks replaced Whites, the Hasidic are replacing Blacks in those neighborhoods.

Everything has a time and place. Once upon a time, there were no Blacks in America. 😉 Yet we still talk about Black America as a pinpoint in time/location for describing events.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
8 months ago

You are closer to feasibility for Our People with this line of thought about “historically (fill in the blank) area.” That’s how we must think going forward. We aren’t getting “our country” back. There is no reformation or reclamation of the U.S. It’s been dying for 60+ years (160 if you draw its fatal infection to Lincoln and “the Second Founding”). Think locally, regionally and ethnically now. Let go the fantasies about the American Nation as it was. You will know you are making a foothold when hostile groups or traitorous people in your fold move out or are afraid… Read more »

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Compsci
8 months ago

“Periodically, the Hasidic’s in New York riot against the Blacks as they inevitably push the Blacks out of their historical neighborhoods.”

Got a link for that? The riot I remember (Crown Heights) was the other way.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
8 months ago

Henry Kissinger belatedly agrees with the latter sentiment. Impending death must have made him vulnerable to fits of honesty.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
8 months ago

Kissinger isn’t “agreeing”, he’s gloating.

Spingerah
Spingerah
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
8 months ago

Israeli bought & paid for influence in DC, the entire msm owned by shalom
useful idiots evangelicals,
Muh Isreal griller retards
The rest of the world sick of gunboat diplomacy.
Carrier battle groups circling around a big puddle. a carrier gets harpooned, ww3.
Cuban missile crisis level with neocon delusional fools at the wheel.
Eat, drink & be merry.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Spingerah
8 months ago

Harpooned by who?

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Gandydancer
8 months ago

“By whom.”

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Gandydancer
8 months ago

OK. Harpooned by whom?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  The Real Bill
8 months ago

I respect your post but basically disagree with it. I want to see the GAE’s military stupidly rush headlong into a Levantine meat-grinder and get mangled like Varus’ legions at Teutoburg Forest. Probably too much to hope for, but given the species of idiot and maniac that now holds sway in the imperial capital, anything’s possible.

Spingerah
Spingerah
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
8 months ago

Sad to agree with you, only because our “safe space” is eight hours away under normal conditions.I’d make popcorn & watch the show. But conditions ain’t looking so good to make that show.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
8 months ago

Yep, only a punch in the nose can wake Joe Normie up. However, it might work in the opposite manner as the NeoCons will say, “I told you so, now give us the funding to rebuild America’s military!” The Joe Normie cohort still has many Boomer’s in its ranks and they remember when we had the “biggest swinging dock”.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Compsci
8 months ago

Good point. However, I was thinking more in terms of the geopolitical and economic damage such a defeat would inflict upon the GAE. And I imagine a percentage–probably fairly small–of Grillers would peel away from their fantasy-land, too.

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
8 months ago

“I want to see the GAE’s military stupidly rush headlong into a Levantine meat-grinder and get mangled”

I would prefer not to see any Americans get mangled, but since we can’t vote out way out of this shitshow the only way it comes to an end is if some exogenous force gives the GloboHomoZio Empire a major smackdown.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Xman
8 months ago

Yes. My view on this matter is not something I relish. But I could take some solace in the knowledge that a substantial number of pervs, feministas and negroes would be getting greased. Those are the groups who would be only too happy to send normal whites to a Leftist Bergen-Belsen.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  The Real Bill
8 months ago

Problem is, there are too many dual citizens in our government who will make it our problem, to the tune of billions of tax dollars wasted there that either should never have been spent in the first place or at least spent on our real problems at home.

Not my people, not my problem suits them just fine as long as they can keep fleecing you for “not my problem.”

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
8 months ago

If Israel walks back their Gaza invasion, that’s a hell of a walk back. I wouldn’t see the current government there surviving that walk back. The Israeli electorate is demographically purifying, with the drug raver ones being highly outproduced by the bottom of their gene pool. A dumb, thick headed group of religious zealots could soon elect a government that makes the current one look like Jill Stein voters. Ones crazy enough to do anything. And everything. The end result would be an Israel foaming at the mouth that would eventually start a big war anyway.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  JR Wirth
8 months ago

The scantily clad, gyrating Jewish chicks in front of the wire fence at the border with Gaza–at a “Rave for Peace,” nonetheless–was pure George Romero does Clown World. There was posted on Twitter a clip of a very ripped but still soft young Israeli man, shirtless, screaming and squealing as he along with some of the young women fled the rave, hotly pursued by Palis. To me, those images epitomize the actual state of the State of Israel.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Jack Dodson
8 months ago

Yes. But ultimately they’re living in their heaven now. Unlike the slow witted people with BO replacing them. One death cult being replaced by another, worse death cult.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  JR Wirth
8 months ago

Correct. The Orthodox segment of the population breeds like an Australian rabbit. One, possibly two, generations from a population majority—and they vote! We will have two opposing factions that will fight til the death to eliminate each other. Of course, Israeli has nukes.

Intelligent Dasein
Intelligent Dasein
Member
Reply to  JR Wirth
8 months ago

A dumb, thick headed group of religious zealots could soon elect a government that makes the current one look like Jill Stein voters. Have no fear, JR Wirth. I have been assured here on the highest authority that voting doesn’t matter and elections do not change anything. Anybody who says otherwise is a Civ-Natty-lite griller and a big dumb poopy-head. The best thing for Palestine is to have the Israelis distracted by the illusion that “voting harder” will help their cause. All the really cool Israelis just sit out the elections now so that they aren’t “legitimizing the system.” So… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Intelligent Dasein
8 months ago

Who here commented upon fraudulent foreign elections when decrying American election fraud? Answer: No one. There are any number of problems, aka “irregularities”, with American elections. Most notable, mail-in balloting now being the norm. The EU for the most part does not do mail-in balloting since they recognize such problem early. Israeli elections I have no direct knowledge of, but perhaps such efforts at popular consensus works for them. For us, not so much.

It is painful enough to to read your tiring and pointless missives. Must you also post straw men?

NateG
NateG
8 months ago

I don’t think the hospital bombing was an accident. All the shelling of civilians in Donbas the last few years was deliberate. Ukrainians and Israelis were trained by the same people who trained the guards at Abu Ghraib, and we know who that was. Nasty people use nasty tactics.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  NateG
8 months ago

You don’t think. Full stop.

Nicholas Name
Nicholas Name
8 months ago

Is anyone else seeing a rough parallel to WW I?

1) A regional ethnic conflict spawns a crisis event that draws major powers’ attention

2) Major powers are called for support by regional players

3) Major powers respond in ways to further their own interests, and in so doing, antagonize each other

The biggest difference I see is that the myriad of alliances in 1914 were formalized beforehand, and the U.S.-Israel seems to be the only example here. Baring that and some other details, is anyone else seeing this? Does it matter?

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Nicholas Name
8 months ago

If any of the major powers possessed or had the prospect of possessing large, multimillion man armies, it could resemble WW1. But they do not. In WW1 the UK put 9 million men in the field. Can you imagine? Russia 12 million. Germany 11 million. France 8 million. The late arriving USA nearly 5 million. Nothing like that can happen now, in spite of there being many, many more people in these countries today. Nobody can afford it, manage it, motivate it, or mobilize it. Perhaps China could pull off something like that, but it would take time. And great… Read more »

Nicholas Name
Nicholas Name
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
8 months ago

Excellent analysis regarding Intent vs. Capability.

I think only Russia has a reasonable estimate of their own capabilities, and that is only due to recent events in the Ukraine.

Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  Nicholas Name
8 months ago

I’ve thought the Syrian civil war had a lot of parallels with the Spanish civil war. Great powers arming both sides, etc.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Nicholas Name
8 months ago

It’s just you.

If Israel goes to war with Iran I’ll reconsider. But so far there are zero parallels to WWI.

B125
B125
8 months ago

I’ve wondered if the scale and ferocity of the pro-Hamas rallies around the world has spooked the elites a little bit. Suddenly questions are being raised around immigration policies and assimilation. They weren’t supposed to turn on Israel. They’re supposed to make life miserable for us. Not “them”. If Israel invades Gaza, it won’t only be the Middle East that sees riots. The Floyd Summer of Love will look tame in comparison. From the White side, there is just no interest. The Zionist Boomers are too old to fight, and everyone else, pretty much doesn’t care. The decrees from the… Read more »

NateG
NateG
Reply to  B125
8 months ago

All the immigrants we let in aren’t going to want to fight either. ‘We just came here for the free stuff, not fight a war!’

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  NateG
8 months ago

But they doubtless see the civil right to loot and burn as a very nice perquisite for living in the West.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
8 months ago

I don’t think “perquisite” means what you think it means.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  B125
8 months ago

“If Israel invades Gaza, it won’t only be the Middle East that sees riots. The Floyd Summer of Love will look tame in comparison.”

Exactly. The Ruling Class got so high on its own supply it never envisioned its pets would engage in non-state-sponsored riots and terror. They didn’t see this coming even though it was patently obvious their intended weapons eventually would be turned on them. France and England have tried to ban pro-Hamas demos and learned the hard way that only whites really follow the rules.

Nicholas Name
Nicholas Name
Reply to  Jack Dobson
8 months ago

Muslims react to Western riot cops the same way frat boys react to arriving strippers.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  B125
8 months ago

My only interest in the current fracas in the Levant is the divisions (which were always there) on the “left” which are quickly becoming gaping fault lines. A real popcorn moment.

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
8 months ago

It is also an extra butter moment when the IDW guys are in hysterics and finally saying something about immigration. Of course it is very selective.

Dave Rubin, Mark Levin, Bugz Shapiro, Denis Prager … are all worked up.

They are exposed, as is the entire system, as Left. Watching Shapiro scold his audience and America is fantastic.

Opportunities abound.

Nicholas Name
Nicholas Name
Reply to  RealityRules
8 months ago

“Bugz” Shapiro! That made my morning and I’m never calling him anything else.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Nicholas Name
8 months ago

Bugs or Buggsy, in reference to his forefather, the name o’ Siegel?

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Nicholas Name
8 months ago

Bugsy Siegel was 5’10” and effective with his fists and other weapons. Shapiro doesn’t call him to mind, or vice versa.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
8 months ago

I tell ye’, Orville Redenbacher was always like a god to me…

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  B125
8 months ago

“If Israel invades Gaza, it won’t only be the Middle East that sees riots.”

Where, then? No in the US, to any significant degree.

Xman
Xman
8 months ago

There’s definitely a Reichstag fire-quality to all of this. The Hamas attack quite conveniently gave Washington and Tel Aviv the necessary excuse to start talking about “eradicating” the Palestinian “animals” and then bombing Iran… something they wanted to do anyway. Amazing how the rhetoric matches the National Socialist rhetoric of the 1930s, too. I have always thought that one of the main reasons the Jews remain so butthurt about what happened in the 1930s and 1940s is that the Germans beat them at their own game. For four thousand years the Jewish religion has told them that only God’s Chosen… Read more »

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Xman
8 months ago

” I have always thought that one of the main reasons the Jews remain so butthurt about what happened in the 1930s and 1940s is that the Germans beat them at their own game.”

Then you’ve always had shit for brains.

TomA
TomA
8 months ago

Methinks that Biden’s handlers believe that only a major war can save his candidacy and they don’t give a damn if it starts WW3 as a consequence. As bad as that is, I don’t think Russia or China will take the bait. The GAE is in a death spiral and they are perfectly willing to let the West flail about mindlessly exhausting itself as an embarrassment to the world. Narratives only matter within the beltway and most Americans pay little heed to the MSM any longer. The way things are going, if Biden gets his war, he may find out… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  TomA
8 months ago

I don’t see why they would think war in the Middle East, particularly with Iran would improve Biden’s chances at home. A war with Iran would likely send the price of oil through the roof and inflation would spiral out of control. It could also mean shortages of oil. Gas could be North of $10 a gallon. Nor would they likely be a pushover like Iraq or Afghanistan. Iran’s drones were very effective in Ukraine. Whose to say they don’t have other very effective weapons? They also have a lot of missiles that aren’t made from pipes.

Mr. Generic
Mr. Generic
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
8 months ago

A war with Iran would be a logistical nightmare. Where would we even stage our forces? Diego Garcia?

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Mr. Generic
8 months ago

What forces? The GAE doesn’t possess anything that is capable of invading Iran successfully. I’m sure it could establish a beachhead if it really wanted to, and was willing to pay the price for it, but conquest is a pipe dream. Best it can hope to do is lob some high explosives from afar.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
8 months ago

They don’t want to occupy, but to destroy. Ostensibly Iran’s nuke and military capability. For such to occur, they need an excuse. Bonus prize might include a government turnover to a secular based one.

Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
8 months ago

… inflation would spiral out of control

Just saying, if that was baked into the cake anyway then a scapegoat might be nice (i.e., “The Putin Price Hike”).

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
8 months ago

Wouldn’t all the other inflation that is “baked into the cake” still be in that cake batter? I don’t think it would “absorb” the rest of the inflation. Also, there is a reasonable chance of a deflationary spiral. It’s possible we could see massive deflation and inflation at the same time. Meaning, money/credit will be very hard to come by and prices will be rising because of increased costs. The inflation being caused by oil prices and the deflation being caused by credit/debt destruction. There are 3 enormous RE developers in China (so far) who are already in default and… Read more »

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  TomA
8 months ago

“Maybe he can talk the Ukrainians into fighting Hamas instead of Russia.”

37 upvotes for this idiotic tripe so far. Z is so wrong about the quality of his comment thread participants.

Yak-15
Yak-15
8 months ago

Who cares about what happens on the ground?

I know how this ends.

Millions more half-retarded, inbred Muslims flood into Europe and the US. Terrorist attacks on innocent westerners. More aid to Israel. More power for Neocons. More reckless foreign policy with little regard to US national interest.

If anything should happen to my friends or family because of this, I know who I will blame.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Yak-15
8 months ago

If, as many dissidents believe, the Finkels are omnipotent, they will not allow Gaza to move to Grenoble. I expect the Finkels to begin pushing a moratorium on all Muhammadan immigration to the West.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Yak-15
8 months ago

“If anything should happen to my friends or family because of this, I know who I will blame.”

Don’t be coy. Whom?

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
8 months ago

Bernhard over at his site Moon of Alabama makes a case that the immediate goal for Israel and AINO is not Iran, but Syria. Syria serves as a link between Iran and Hezbollah. The Israelis bombed the two major Syrian airports a couple of days back. Also, the Russians have their presence, both through their naval base at Tartus, as well as through their air and ground forces in Syria. But those forces are relatively small, and anything that complicates their resupply or the upgrading of air defense can be problematic for defending against any major AINO assaults. Not sure… Read more »

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  thezman
8 months ago

Wild that with all this talk of international law and national sovereignty, it seems every country can just do whatever they want in Syria and everyone is okay with it.

Imagine being Assad and seeing a foreign power stealing your oil and a neighbor country bombing your airports and you’re the one being painted as a monster.

Nicholas Name
Nicholas Name
Reply to  Chet Rollins
8 months ago

He probably feels like Saddam Hussein and Qaddafi who were like, “Do you realize that I’m the only one holding the crazies back? Are you really going to kill me and turn them loose because you disapprove of the WAY THAT I DO IT?”

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
8 months ago

Who is stealing Syria’s oil?

Anon
Anon
Reply to  JerseyJeffersonian
8 months ago

Iran seems like a strange target so soon after we’ve gifted them $50 billion. The Biden Administration seems to love them, not want to destroy them.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Anon
8 months ago

There seem to be sharply divided Regime factions on this one.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  Anon
8 months ago

AFAIK, it was $6 billion of Iran’s money that Biden promised to unfreeze if Iran released some five or six US citizens. The Iranians did their part of the deal and then Biden welched on his part.

The USA doesn’t give that kind of money to anyone except Israel.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Arshad Ali
8 months ago

“The USA doesn’t give that kind of money [$6 billion] to anyone except Israel.”

What are you talking about? Obama already did.

Baker Shakey
Baker Shakey
Reply to  Anon
8 months ago

Please stop using “gifted” — it’s GIVEN.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Baker Shakey
8 months ago

“Gifted” is a specific variety of “given”. They are not synonyms.

We don’t owe the Shah’s money to the current Iranian regime, so it’s a gift.

imbroglio
imbroglio
8 months ago

The Palestinians — an ersatz identity cobbled together in the aftermath of Lawrence’s dalliances with the pre-WW I Hashemites and solidified in 1965 with the creation of Arafat’s El Fatah organization — are a pain in the ass in the Arab world. None of their kin want them. Nor does the Arab world want Israel wiped out after which they’d need to turn a liberated Palestine into a larger Gaza. Both sides are being played by larger forces and both know it. As Gazan refugees pour by the thousands across the River Jordan (the Rio Grande) into the promised land,… Read more »

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  imbroglio
8 months ago

Jews to Taiwan? The Chinese have already let it be known how very little they trust the little hats, so why in the world would they park them on what they consider to be their own territory? If the little hats were to promise – pinky swear – to behave in order to implement such a scheme, it would do no good at all. The Chinese understand the old story about the Frog and the Scorpion just fine.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  imbroglio
8 months ago

There are Gazans pouring across the Rio Grande in their thousands who ought to distinguish between other Americans (who they despise) and Jews (who they hate) and this means… what?

Is this just fever dreams or can you supply a link?

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
8 months ago

I want to say MGS4, Solid Snake’s opening monologue begins with “War has changed.” Indeed!

The extras suffer, but it comes down to competing narratives. Fake and gay. I mean, I’m glad it’s fake and gay, purely out of self interest, but it’s ridiculous to watch, and angering to see blood spilled for the show. What a shameful age!

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Paintersforms
8 months ago

“What a shameful age!”

Indeed. The sterile brutality is particularly nasty.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
8 months ago

What are you trying (and failing) to say?

Neoliberal Feudalism
8 months ago

Israel is in a tough strategic situation here. A ground invasion of Gaza would result in a very large number of IDF casualties, as urban warfare nullifies technological advantages. Unless Israel is willing to pacify Gaza without concern for civilian casualties (which would result in worldwide condemnation which could put Israel’s existence at risk), even if it successfully occupied Gaza it would be stuck in the same situation it was which led to the 2005 withdrawal, i.e. a slow bleed of occupying forces. And that’s without considering Hezbollah’s entrance into the war, which it looks like they are waiting for… Read more »

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  Neoliberal Feudalism
8 months ago

The devastating hospital bombing, probably with US made J-Dams, was a bridge too far, and Israel is now going to have to extricate itself from this mess…Even Israeli TV has been airing contrary eyewitness reports on the Hamas attack on a kibbutz, where a surviving woman said that Hamas treated them well, but when the IDF showed up, they killed many of the kibbutz residents with indiscriminate fire.It has also aired discussion of Israeli negligence after being warned about the attack..Bibi is in a lot of trouble, and probably won’t survive this…the plot backfired…

Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  pyrrhus
8 months ago

Bibi should have already resigned. Chutzpah of this guy! No shame at all.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  pyrrhus
8 months ago

Yeah, the old “Kill them all, let God sort them out approach” in action. Reminds me of the popo shooting the family’s friendly, old Labrador walking toward them, wagging its tail. Say, who has been doing a lot of training of the popo in recent times, eh?
I guess “(personal) safety first!” has been instilled to a fault.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  pyrrhus
8 months ago

You are full of crazy talk.

rasqball
rasqball
Reply to  Gandydancer
8 months ago

Gandydancer – I had a friend who was a gandydancer for a while for MTA NYC subways, and a cousin who was a “‘lifer” gandydancer for the LIRR…
How much does a section of standard rail weigh, anyway?

(In lbs., not in kilos, s.v.p.)

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  rasqball
8 months ago

This was triggered by my supplying a less-ridiculously-low weight for a 16″ shell than… was it you??

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  rasqball
8 months ago

…no, that was hokkoda. So why are YOU butthurt?

Winter
Winter
Reply to  Neoliberal Feudalism
8 months ago

“Meanwhile it is interesting to watch the reaction of the right in America, which is now far more anti-Israeli and anti-Jewish than it was in prior middle east wars.” One problem they’re having with the American right is that we’re seeing our own country invaded while the politicians do nothing — or rather nothing EXCEPT lecture us on how we need to be more welcoming. Our elite, including our so-called conservative politicians and pundits, cry for dead Israelis. But when have they shed a single tear for the much larger numbers of our own people being murdered by invaders? Or… Read more »

Nicholas Name
Nicholas Name
Reply to  Winter
8 months ago

The effects of illegal immigration into the U.S. are not a bug, they are a feature. It is not a complicated problem to solve, so if it remains unsolved, is it even considered a problem?

The situation at the southern border is exactly the way the Uniparty wants it (baring a few grumpy governors and mayors).

Winter
Winter
Reply to  Nicholas Name
8 months ago

“The situation at the southern border is exactly the way the Uniparty wants it (baring a few grumpy governors and mayors).” Exactly. But we’re supposed to be outraged when other lands are invaded? We’re supposed to send money and men? We’re supposed to care? Israel has a border wall. Israel has universal health care. Israel has a government concerned with preserving its own people, including the demographic makeup within their borders. Americans have none of these things. And we’re supposed to feel sorry for them? This may seem unrelated, but it’s not uncommon for Americans to pay over $25,000 a… Read more »

Nicholas Name
Nicholas Name
Reply to  Winter
8 months ago

As I once told my ex-wife, “Will you please show me the respect of telling a GOOD lie? These other lies are just insulting.”

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Winter
8 months ago

“… it’s not uncommon for Americans to pay over $25,000 a year for health insurance premiums because our government “can’t afford” universal health care…”

Government doesn’t pay for anything. Taxes and newly printed money (inflation) does. Just because we’re spending money on things we ought not spend money on (e.g., antimissile missiles for Israel) doesn’t mean that pouring unlimited gobs of money down the “healthcare” rathole is a good idea.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Winter
8 months ago

Screw ’em? You’re far too kind, Winter. Damn them all to Hell.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Winter
8 months ago

“But when have they shed a single tear for the much larger numbers of our own people being murdered by invaders?”

Do you have a number? And where did you get it?

rasqball
rasqball
Reply to  Gandydancer
8 months ago

Again: weight in lbs., not kilos, svp.
And no “wobbly” estimates!

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  rasqball
8 months ago

Your attempt at trolling is so… limp.

This is no doubt very akin to what your girlfriend would say, if you had one.

Mycale
Mycale
8 months ago

“Odds are it was Israel, and it was simply a mistake, which happens in war.” Was it? They’ve been priming us for a medieval siege for a week now. A few days ago they bombed a convoy that was following their instructions to leave the area. Even if it was a mistake, by now we should all know the script. First, Israel denies it did anything, and blames the Palestinians. Then they say they did it, but it was an accident. Then they say that they did it, and they meant to do it, but they were killing terrorists. Then… Read more »

Winter
Winter
Reply to  Mycale
8 months ago

“Look at the speed with which the “decapitated babies” story crumbled.”

Wait, what? You’re saying there were no forty beheaded babies?

C’mon, man! Next you’ll be claiming there were no pedal powered brain-bashing machines or lampshades made of human skin.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Mycale
8 months ago

I don’t recognize this “script” as describing the “hospital” explosion and its aftermath.

Are there pictures of a blown-up hospital?

rasqball
rasqball
Reply to  Gandydancer
8 months ago

Recall the poor Kuwaiti woman lamenting the theft of (presumably occupied?) neo natal incubators in the aftermath of Saddam’s invasion.
How much does a standard length of standard track weigh?

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  rasqball
8 months ago

What does that have to do with the notable absence of pictures of the flattened hospital, butthurt-person?

Compare: Search for “Kobar Towers” and select images.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
8 months ago

The sad truth is to have lasting peace, either the Palestinians or the Israelis are going to be ethnically cleansed. The only peaceful way for this to happen is to give the entire population of Palestine a big, fat check to leave and find a host country to take them. Israeli’s will never leave until they are overrun or nuked.

The problem is also, that no sane country wants them:
https://www.emilkirkegaard.com/p/palestinians-in-your-country-what?r=753by&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
Reply to  Chet Rollins
8 months ago

Exactly Chet. But if we add up all the money spent on this to date, the World could have easily resettled these folks already much more cheaply. So I have to conclude, at least preliminarily, that these people enjoy killing each other.

2 million resettled Gazans at $500,000 each would cost $1 trillion US. Presumable the Jewish bankers and the Oil Sheiks are clever enough to finance this. It’s not even six months of US deficits these days…….

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Captain Willard
8 months ago

Feel free to finance one yourself, just not to here.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Chet Rollins
8 months ago

That’s why the Russian/Chinese diplomatic push is interesting. It will finally force the Israelis to just come out and say, “Nope, we will never agree to a Palestinian state in Gaza and the West Bank. We want them gone.”

Let the world digest that.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
8 months ago

No, it won’t force them to say that. Why would it?

rasqball
rasqball
Reply to  Gandydancer
8 months ago

How much does the track weigh? Surely not tough question for a gandydancer?

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  rasqball
8 months ago

For some reason you think you’re being clever. Did that delusion start when you were dropped on your head?

Nicholas Name
Nicholas Name
Reply to  Chet Rollins
8 months ago

Who gets Jerusalem?

Every violent action by all sides, since the Jews carved out Israel, comes back to this question.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Nicholas Name
8 months ago

It’s answered. The Jews have Jerusalem and are going to keep it.

Next question?

rasqball
rasqball
Reply to  Gandydancer
8 months ago

The weight of the track, please?

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  rasqball
8 months ago

Per link? On a Merkava?

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Chet Rollins
8 months ago

Chet, no Middle East country is going to take them. Hell, the King of Jordan said Jordan and Egypt would take in *no* Gaza refugees in a news conference/presentation a couple days ago. Jordan, if you remember, a few decades ago fought the Palestinians within their borders *back* to the West Bank. Then after putting down that rebellion, said they give up all claims to the land in favor of that area being settled by Palestinians. Of course, by that time Israeli Kibbutz‘s littered the land. If Israel is serious about peace, they’ll carve out the appropriate land and banish… Read more »

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Compsci
8 months ago

“If Israel is serious about peace, they’ll carve out the appropriate land and banish all non-Israeli’s to the area.”

Isn’t that pretty much what we have already? I mean, not “all”, but the ones not in the West Bank and Gaza don’t seem to be the problem.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
8 months ago

“Washington remains committed to their bit, but it is clear that the Middle East is not playing its part.” As they say in Michigan, Allahu Akbar. “Washington” seems to have several competing factions in the Ruling Class disagreeing on a broad range of issues, including this one. Given the border is wide open and wannabe jihadis might not limit their handiwork to Bitter Clingers–in fact, they probably wouldn’t even bother to target them, presents quite the problem. Also, the Religion of Peace has quite a few adherents in high places and important locales such as Brooklyn these days. China, which… Read more »

sentry
sentry
8 months ago

if hezbollah doesn’t do anything then israel removes/exterminates all muslims from their territory, while they pretend they’re fighting hamas. if hezbollah does strike israel then ‘murica bombs iran and Israel gets excuse to genocide muslims. Yeah, some js will die, but fucking up Iran is a wet dream of theirs. The way I see it, Israel wins which either way. i don’t know if people noticed, but china/russia don’t blame israel for gaza, they blame ‘murica. So after ‘murica falls js jump ship to china/russia and they’ll protect them from neighbours with the benefit of having gotten rid of their… Read more »

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  sentry
8 months ago

Cool story, dude.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  sentry
8 months ago

Israel got its hat handed to it by Hezbollah in their last go around. I highly doubt that they want to go through with that again, especially with a second front in Gaza. So long as Hezbollah stays on its side of the border, they’ll be fine. As to the long-term plan of the tribe running China and/or Russia like they have the US and UK. Good luck. “My fellow Chinese” doesn’t work very well when you’re not, you know, Chinese. Even the American vassal Japan doesn’t allow the tribe to infiltrate their politics, media and banking. As always, the… Read more »

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
8 months ago

i wrote “if hezbollah does strike israel then ‘murica bombs iran”, not israel bombs iran, so i don’t know why you wrote that.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  sentry
8 months ago

You’re not the clearest writer. Regardless, your first sentence doesn’t make sense. If Hezbollah stays home, how does Israel remove all the Muslims from its territory? Do you mean Gaza or just Israel proper? Because if you mean Gaza, good luck. Have fun trying to push out a couple of million people and hundreds of thousands of fighters from a dense urban environment. In fact, I’d love to see them try. Go for it Israel! Roll those tanks into Gaza with infantry support. Wipe out those Palestinians. When that’s done, the tribe can use their new found power in China… Read more »

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
8 months ago

what got you triggered?

both in gaza and in israel proper it will happen.

Israel has right wing militias that hunt palestinians inside its territories.
Gaza gets leveled till everyone leaves or gets killed.

If they send troops inside before they level city, then js are morons.

All of this is happening already so I don’t see why you think it’s stupid.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
8 months ago

We all realize that Israel wants the Palestinians to leave Gaza, but that’s not going to happen. So, sure, Israel can bomb Gaza all it wants, but they can’t make them leave without cutting off their water, food and electricity – forever. Once again, good luck with that. Look at the grief that Israel is getting for killing 500 people by blowing up a hospital. How’s it going to look when they starve 3 million people to death. Killing a few Hamas leaders and launching some missiles into Gaza is different from genocide. Btw, I agree. Getting rid of the… Read more »

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
8 months ago

“How’s it going to look when they starve 3 million people to death.” I guess they’ll generate 3 million renders of dead baby AI art to compensate. They’ll say it’s self-defense, nobody will believe them and world continues to go on without any palestinians in gaza. Maybe some chinese guy will slap their wrist at best. “Also, you’re insane if you think that Russia and China blame the US for the Gaza situation.” that’s what’s coming out of their mouths, so what else can I say. Mossad is running wild in Ukraine and Putin has no mean words to say… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
8 months ago

I’m sure that day after day after day of endless videos of Palestinians dying from hunger, thirst and disease won’t cause any problems in the Muslim world or Europe. The Chinese may not care about Palestinians, but they do care about Iranian and Saudi oil. The world is moving on from the tribe. Fine, let them genocide 3 million Palestinians in front of the world. Maybe you’re right that no one will stop them. But the rest of the world can stop dealing with them, and for a middleman people, that’s a fate worse than death. The tribe screwed up… Read more »

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
8 months ago

Js will be just fine, rest assured, when us and europe get destroyed, they’ll love it.

new york used to be center of the world, that’s why so many of them moved there, to control world affairs.

But when situation gets out of hand they leave cause they’re nomads.

They leave to ‘new israel’, ukraine.
There’s a reason why ukraine got hollowed up, to make room for the js.
Mossad did their job splendidly.

China/Russia blame everything on US, which means there’s no one to stop them.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
8 months ago

Jews are a middleman people. Moving to Ukraine isn’t going to help them much. I agree that they’ll be fine. They’ll just go back to being annoying merchants who argue among themselves. But they won’t enjoy anything close to the power that they have now. The Asians and Indians will treat them as an outside tribe, which is what they are. They’ll do business with the Jews, but they won’t allow them to interfere with their country’s politics. The Jews will have some influence in the Middle East but not nearly as much. Europe will be a problem because of… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
8 months ago

This is just another act in an ongoing process that spells the end of Washington’s (and, thus, the tribe’s) world dominance. Similar to the world slowly building alternative trade and, potentially, banking/finance routes, this is an example of the world providing an alternative diplomatic system/choice. In the past, the US would have been the only arbiter, and since the US foreign policy is an extension of Jewish foreign policy, nothing would have been done, except maybe a new war. But, now, other powers – Russia and China – have emerged. What’s more, the next-level players – Iran, Saudi Arabia, Turkey,… Read more »

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
8 months ago

It is pretty obvious that Biden and Blinken are at best bit players. The dominant factions see the handwriting on the wall and are going off the usual script.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Jack Dodson
8 months ago

It’s amazing (might I say, historic) to watch the US become a bystander in a Middle East crisis. The ground is shifting below them, and they don’t know how to react.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
8 months ago

This is kind of a replay of the Suez Crisis, with the United States in the role of 1956 France/England/Israel, and China and Russia in the role of the US circa ’56. The imperial shift from the UK to the States had occurred quite a few years prior to ’56 but Suez made that stark. This is very similar to then. It is staggering to think that less than 70 years ago the States could be hostile to Israel, although demographics may make that great again.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Jack Dodson
8 months ago

Extending this analogy, how long until China leads an open attack on the USD the way Ike did on the British pound?

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Jack Dodson
8 months ago

That may be the pressure causing “Biden” to tell Israel to cool its heels, Geese.

p
p
Reply to  Jack Dodson
8 months ago

Winkin’, Blinkin” and Nod!

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  p
8 months ago

Biden, Blinken and Nuland. Off in a shoe in search of the great white herring.

Nicholas Name
Nicholas Name
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
8 months ago

“…the next-level players – Iran, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, etc. – have grown tired of US/Jewish games and realize that they have another choice.”

Spot on.

The greatest result of the Ukraine war was that the GAE blew the Golden Trumpet of International Sanctions…and everyone didn’t start dancing. Russia’s economy actually grew instead. That was a Pearl Harbor moment for the GAE. The “next level players” are indeed looking for other choices.

Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
8 months ago

“In the past, the US would have been the only arbiter”

Maybe from 1989 to about 2015, but before that the mighty USSR had to be taken into account. 50 years ago a panicky Kissinger intervened to stop Ariel Sharon from marching on Cairo because the US didn’t want total defeat of a major Soviet client state.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
8 months ago

“The Arab world is slowly figuring out that they are being gas lit by Washington.” They’ve already figured it out. MBS, for example, is no idiot. If there were any gaps in their understanding, they’d have been filled in by the Russians and the Chinese. Russia, China, and Iran would have figured out immediately what the neocon game plan was. Likewise for Turkey. The sh!theads in DC imagine everyone is as stupid as them. It’s like watching a chess game between a novice and a master, where the novice thinks the master won’t see his crude one- and two-move tricks.… Read more »

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Arshad Ali
8 months ago

As far as the gaslighting goes: My ultra blue libtard neighborhood embraces every lefty fad. Gay flags, trans flags, RBG memorial posters, Ukraine flags, etc. Not a single Israeli flag though. Or Palestine one, for that matter. No one knows what to think about the mass propaganda from all sides. Definitely too hot to discuss in public or in polite company. No one wants to be called an anti-Semite: criticizing Israel, no mater how careful or historically literate arguments are made, this topic is just not allowed. I’d like to think people are just sick of the mess over there… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  ProZNoV
8 months ago

No one also wants to be called a rayciss for condeming the Palis. What, pray tell, is an anti-white racist in good standing to do? I, shall we say, appreciate their discomfiture…

Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  ProZNoV
8 months ago

Your ultra blue libtard is no doubt like all the other libtards: if non-Jewish, they side with Palestine but they don’t want to criticize Biden because they’ve invested so much in him as the “Anti-Trump”, covering his a$$, they have to fall in line or at least keep silent.
if Jewish, they side with Israel (the call of Blut und Boden) but they don’t want to criticize Biden because they’ve invested so much in him as the “Anti-Trump”, covering his a$$, they have to fall in line or at least keep silent.

Boarwild
Boarwild
8 months ago

Not surprised the Israelis have paused; seen reports that they’ve mobilized over 300,000 troops but here’s the thing – they’re gonna need that & a lot more: urban combat is THE. WORST. I speak with a lot of Veterans by nature of what I do & former Marines who served in Hue City during the Tet Offensive in 1968 have spoken @ length about it. Urban combat is an absolute nightmare; you never know what’s around the next corner, in the next room, upstairs or downstairs. The Marines couldn’t move down the streets due to the NVA having them covered… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  thezman
8 months ago

Encircling in the hope of an evacuation seemed to be Israel’s plan as well.

It’s obvious that Israel want the Palestinians to leave. For most of the world, the solution to this problem is a Palestinian state, but Israel isn’t going to go for that. They want the Palestinians gone and Gaza for Israeli settlers.

That’s why the Russian/Chinese diplomatic moves are so interesting. They’re going to force Israel’s hand.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
8 months ago

It doesn’t get mentioned a lot, but Israel has been somewhat neutral in the Russia/Ukraine war. The reason for this is the obvious decline in American power.

Mike
Mike
Reply to  Jack Dodson
8 months ago

Not neutral enough though, they’ve aided the Ukraine more than a true neutral would have done. They’ve provided advisors and a little military aid but no money.

The way events are unfolding you’ve just got to wonder if that New Khazaria story that has been floating around doesn’t have a little basis in truth. The Ukraine is being depopulated right now so it’s empty in case those in the Middle East decide it has beome too hot for them to stay.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
8 months ago

And with the expulsion of the Gazan Palestinians comes full title to any and all off shore natural gas fields: energy security for Israel, and large amounts of geld.

Boarwild
Boarwild
Reply to  thezman
8 months ago

Z – Bahkmut – & the whole Ukraine SMO – seems to be a reworking of General Erich von Falkenhayn’s strategy @ Verdun 1916; bleed the enemy forces white. According to Col Douglas MacGregor, USA, Ret., Ukraine has lost upwards of 450,000 KIA to date with Russian casualties somewhere around 70,000. That’s an incredible inflict-to-loss ratio if accurate (Germans inflicted an incredible 11 to 1 ratio on the Soviets during WWII). As heretofore noted, he’s getting reports that Ukraine Press Gangs are rounding up all able-bodied men from 16-60 for active service. The Russians even claim to have captured a… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Boarwild
8 months ago

I increasingly hear the word “stalemate”. I’m not sure that’s accurate. Not an educated person here, but I always thought it referred to two opponents—neither of whom can make progress against the other. How do we define progress? Well, simplistically we can look at territorial gains. Another way, we can look at the losses one side inflicts upon the other. I prefer the latter. Russia is bleeding Ukraine dry wrt combat effectiveness and if latest accounts are to be believed, extending their attacks to more of the country’s infrastructure to affect civilians than before. This is not a stalemate, but… Read more »

Boarwild
Boarwild
Reply to  Compsci
8 months ago

Compsci- You are correct sir. Bad wording on my part. It’s only a “stalemate” in that the Russians – for whatever reason Putin has chosen – to lay back behind fortified positions & let the Ukrainians hurl themselves at them. Since their armor never appears to get very far the Ukrainians have had to attempt it with infantry, hence their high casualty rates. According to Col Douglas MacGregor, USA, Ret., & Larry Johnson (former CIA) they are under the educated – thru their sources in Ukraine & Belorus – opinion that Putin’s “hanging back” strategy seems to bleed the Ukrainians… Read more »

Jack Boniface
Jack Boniface
Member
Reply to  thezman
8 months ago

They may be turning Avdeevka into another Bakhmut. It will not be entirely encircled, but Zelensky will be allowed to push in reenforcements to be killed in another “meatgrinder.” 50,000 more dead Ukrainians.

Boarwild
Boarwild
Reply to  Jack Boniface
8 months ago

Senseless & there’s no reason for it; they could have had a ceasefire over a year ago but former PM Boris Johnson convinced Zelensky to suspend any convo with Putin since the west “had his back”.

The west will defend Ukraine to the very last Ukrainian.

Diversity Heretic
Member
Reply to  Boarwild
8 months ago

An urban battle that is not well known, but was extremely costly was the 1945 Battle of Manila. IIRC, the Japanese Army evacuated the city, but Japanese naval infantry put up a ferocious and ruthless resistance that inflicted heavy casualties on the advancing Americans, but especially on Philippino civilians. Almost all the Japanese defenders died, but that was typical of WWII. Urban warfare is something to be avoided if at all possible. Even when you win, you lose.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson