Midnight Cowboy

Note: Today is a house hunting day, which means I am out at the crack of dawn to head off to the hills in search of a new lair. Instead of rushing something in the few minutes I have before leaving for the day, I am re-posting a green door item. This is a film review I recently did that feels like a nice break from the usual routine.


The concept of the antiwhite is new to most people, but it has been bubbling under the surface of American culture for a long time. In movies, it often turns up in the “moral complexity” of quintessentially American characters. The prototypical American cowboy, for example, is also a villain. Alternatively, the American dream is turned into a nightmare for the protagonist of the film.

It is not a direct racial assault on white people, like we now see on movies and television, but more of a bank shot. Some aspects of society are criticized, often by inverted reality, as in the case of Easy Rider. Normal people are turned into violent monsters, while two bums are the heroes. The Searchers introduces the concept of racism as a defining feature of American society.

By the late 1960’s, there was no need to obscure the intent. American life was portrayed as seedy and degenerate, the result of the original sin of some “ism” or maybe the falsity of the founding myth. There is the sense that the general terribleness of the period was deserved. Cities were festering sewers riddled with crime and degeneracy because that was the real America.

Probably the peak of this seedy realism was Midnight Cowboy. It is the story of a young guy from Texas named Joe Buck, played by Jon Voight. He quits his menial job and takes a bus to New York City for reasons that are never explained. He immediately decides to make a living as a male prostitute, targeting middle-aged women. His first efforts fail, but he gets the hang of it and finally gets lucky.

This totally naive guy from Texas is shrewd enough to become a hustler but not smart enough to make money at it. He also gets suckered by a crippled conman named Rico, played by Dustin Hoffman. Rico introduces Joe to a pimp, for a finder’s fee, but the pimp turns out to be a religious fanatic. Joe flees this situation and goes looking for Rico but is unable to locate him.

Joe runs out of money, so he gets tossed from his apartment and decides to let a gay guy give him oral sex in a movie theater, thinking that the gay guy is going to pay him for the privilege, but that is now how things work. Joe eventually finds Rico, who lets him stay in his condemned apartment. They become partners with Joe slowly taking care of Rico, who has some sort of respiratory disease.

Eventually the two of them decide to leave New York City for Florida, so Joe picks up a gay guy and murders him for his cash. They use the cash for a bus ticket to Florida, but Rico is now extremely sick. At some point Rico soils himself, so Joe buys them new clothes at a rest stop, but Rico has died. The close of the movie is Joe hugging his dead friend as the bus trundles along toward Florida.

The message of the film is clear. White America is a myth, just as Joe Buck’s cowboy act is a myth that he created for himself. In realty, America is a faker, a fraud, a hustler that can only be redeemed by dropping the act and turning gay. This is a movie made by and for people who hate themselves, their country and would have been better off killing themselves and their intended audience.

That is the main reason the film is on the top-100 list. Another reason is it started the process of normalizing sodomy. It is not just an antiwhite, anti-American film, but it is a homosexual film that seeks to normalize homosexuality, by making Joe Buck a victim of a system that is intolerant of homosexuals. If midcentury bourgeoise decadence could have come to life and made a film, this would be it.

It is impossible to express how much I detest this film, but it is not the worst film on the top-100 list and it probably does belong here for artistic reasons. The message is vulgar and degenerate, but the production and acting are extremely good. Despite the obvious plot holes, Jon Voight makes Joe Buck believable. Dustin Hoffman plays himself, so he is quite credible as a skeevy hustler.

Like Taxi Driver, which I also hated, Midnight Cowboy is important because of what it represents on the historical timeline. When the robot historians attempt to retrace the steps that led to the collapse of the American experiment, they will no doubt look at the popular entertainment of this period for clues. Within a single generation, America went from the pinnacle of cultural achievement to the world of Midnight Cowboy.

That said, if you can avert your gaze from the political messaging and step outside of our current political context, it is a good film. Joe Buck has a story to tell, and we get enough of it to fill in the rest. He is a tragic figure, but he is not without redeeming qualities and we get the sense that redemption is possible for him. That is a lot to do in a film and that speaks to the skill of the people behind it.

In the end, it is all about the main question. If you have not seen this film, should you take the time to watch it? Even though I hate this film, I do not regret having watched it twice now. There will be no third viewing, but if you can stomach the politics and the ugliness of it, it is worth watching for historical reasons. At the minimum, you come away with a sense of the time and place in which it was made.


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Daniel Ross
Daniel Ross
1 year ago

Joe being a closeted gay apparently just jumped over my head. I thought the fact he finds himself surrounded by gays who chose the same line of business was meant to convey his detachment from the realities of New York. His relationship with Rizzo was decidedly non-sexual, and quite the archetype of friendship people at their lowest tend to form. This is what “saves” him in the eyes of the audience at the end. It is quite obvious that by the final act of the film he is on his way to achieving what he came to New York for… Read more »

Anonymous Fake
Anonymous Fake
1 year ago

Easy Rider makes it blatant that drug culture was a top-down phenomenon, and Gary Webb exposed this in the 90’s. There isn’t much money in filthy movies vs wholesome movies, but there is a LOT of money in the drug business, especially for spies who need untraceable funding. Counterculture that encourages degeneracy and ultimately drugs and drug money for the CIA was never created by or enjoyed by normal people. But normal people who buy commodity products aren’t where the money is. It was only a matter of time before promoting alternative spirituality/sexuality/etc went full circle and actually put the… Read more »

rcocean
rcocean
1 year ago

Midnight Cowboy is like a beautiful tasty looking crossisant with crap in the middle. Its wonderfully acted and directed, but the story is about two loser perverts who are impossible to care about. They are incredibly stupid, making the movie a serious version of “Dumb and Dumber”. Hollywood gave this picture the AA for best picture. Its way of giving Middle America the finger. Because the USA was still a 90 percent white country in the 70s, Hollywood couldn’t make movies full of POC’s or explicitly antiwhite movies like they do today. They had to make heroes out of criminals,… Read more »

Gandydancer
Member
1 year ago

I was 18 when Midnight Cowboy came out, and I’ve never seen it, so my impulse to has obviously never amounted to much. But thanks for the appreciation of it you’ve provided, lest I ever consider watching it. What interest I have in degeneracy can easily be satisfied by true crime videos on YouTube*, so why watch a fictional treatment? * I don’t claim to be above this. I recently watched some videos on the 1995 Essex Moor/Range Rover gangland murders and found it interesting. But the point is that that that happened, and tells you something about a reality… Read more »

Sumguy
Sumguy
1 year ago

I’m making a separate post about the movie “Deliverance” because I think I made an important observation that I posted in a sub thread on this page. Deliverance was explicitly anti-southern and anti-rural. No question. Arguments about “Dueling Banjos” being a positive depiction of “hillbilly” culture notwithstanding. Examine the entire premise of the movie. It’s been a long time since I viewed it, but iirc a group of upper-middle class, educated city men with enough disposable income for a weekend camping/hunting/fishing trip decide to do so in rural Appalachia (Filmed in Northeast Georgia). The men aren’t all “Yankees” iirc, but… Read more »

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Sumguy
1 year ago

I haven’t seen it for decades either, but if I remember right their trip is to ride a river that’s soon to be dammed, flooding the area where all the hillbillies live. So the premise contains an assurance that regardless of what happens, the future will see their land and memory justly erased. I *think* the last shot is a long overhead to show you how large the low-lying area is. The guy who plays guitar with the kid is a stock real-life character of the time, a professional-class leftist who thinks himself Of The People because he knows a… Read more »

Gandydancer
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Reply to  Sumguy
1 year ago

“… but clearly the depiction of the “other” is meant to contrast against ignorant subhumans.”

Looks like something you might repost. If you do this sentence needs reworking.

Sumguy
Sumguy
Reply to  Gandydancer
1 year ago

?
Can’t post a single ?, so here are some more
???

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Sumguy
1 year ago

I gather that in the movie the “other” IS depicted as ignorant subhumans, so how is it “meant to contrast against” itself? As far as I can tell the sentence just doesn’t parse.

Yes, the inability to post very short responses when a very short response would do the job is annoying.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
1 year ago

Totally OT:

Robert E. Lee’s statue from Charlottesville was just melted down:

https://gab.com/WesternChauvinist1/posts/111303929570470962

I hate this timeline.

Member
1 year ago

I’ve been a Subscribestar subscriber pretty much since you started it and I would definitely like to see your behind the green door posts posted here a week or so after you put them on the ‘Star/Substack

imbroglio
imbroglio
1 year ago

Z, I’ve never read one of your film reviews. Nor have I seen Midnight Cowboy. But I’m impressed.

My favorite all-time film is John Sayles’ “Matewan” (1987) about West Virginia coal mining in the dangerous days of union organizing.

Maybe watch and review it some time.

Mr. Blank
Member
1 year ago

I think Hoffman’s character is named Rizzo, not Rico. Jon Voight’s performance is the film’s sole redeeming quality. (He was nominated for an Oscar, but lost to John Wayne.) He’s really, really good and really funny as Joe Buck. He milks the dumb hick in the big city thing for all it’s worth, but without turning it into a stupid cartoon. It’s been awhile since I watched the film, but I recall that Joe Buck specifically left Texas to go to New York in the first place because he thought it would be easy to make a living there as… Read more »

Brandon Laskow
Brandon Laskow
Reply to  Mr. Blank
1 year ago

His name is Rico “Ratso” Rizzo.

Snooze
Snooze
Reply to  Mr. Blank
1 year ago

Harry Nillson’s theme song for Midnight Cowboy won an Oscar I think, Skipping Over The Ocean Like A Stone. Very good tune.

Mr. Blank
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Reply to  Snooze
1 year ago

Oh yeah I forgot about the song! Yeah that’s another point in the film’s favor.

Frip
Member
Reply to  Mr. Blank
1 year ago

“Anyway, like I said, Voight’s funny and sad performance was the main reason to watch it, if you watch it at all.” I’m more of a Rizzo guy myself.

Jerome P. Tarpley
Jerome P. Tarpley
1 year ago

I don’t believe I saw any comments referencing “Deliverance” – a film that also featured Mr. Voigt. Came out a few years later than MC and the white hillbillies were the devils. The first viewing of it put me down – like depressed. But then a subsequent viewing … I really did laugh a couple of times.

“What is it you require?”

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jerome P. Tarpley
1 year ago

“Uh, what we REE-quire is that you get your ass up in them woods.”

I agree that the hillbillies didn’t come across particularly well in Deliverance, but the deputy and the sheriff–played by James Dickey–were alright, and the folks in the bed-and-breakfast at the end of the movie were decent people. At any rate, Deliverance wasn’t anti-white propaganda. It was a story about the fact that the barbarians are always outside the gates, that you’d best be aware of that fact and prepare accordingly.

Boris
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

“Deliverance wasn’t anti-white propaganda. It was a story about the fact that the barbarians are always outside the gates, that you’d best be aware of that fact and prepare accordingly.”. I have to disagree with you, Ostei. It it wasn’t anti-white, it was certainly anti-RURAL white. Deliverance came on the heels of a series of wholesome rural-based sitcoms by CBS (derisively called the Country Broadcasting System for its rural -based programming) Andy Griffith Show, Beverly Hillbillies, Petticoat Jct, Green Acres all showed rural Americans in a positive light, despite their outward simplicity and naïveté. Deliverance turned that on its head… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
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Reply to  Boris
1 year ago

I dare say Deliverance advanced hillbilly music a century. “Dueling Banjos” was a smash hit, and the scene in which that song is played was electrifying–even though the music was acoustic–and showed that the rural folk had tremendous musical talent. You’ll recall that city slicker guitarist Drew (Ronnie Cox) ultimately couldn’t keep up with the young country banjo prodigy.

Sumguy
Sumguy
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

The banjo scene was the movie equivalent of a National Geographic special (when they were redeemable instead of antiwhite) where native Africans in some jungle tribe are depicted as primitive, superstitious, maybe even cannibals, but there’s some sort of academic appreciation for their music, dance, art, and culture.

Think of the city-folk as European colonizers on safari, (literally on a hunting/fishing trip) documenting and observing a tribe of primitive Appalachian people.

Gandydancer
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Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFutge4xn3w

nb: Posting just the link results in “ERROR: Your comment appears to be spam.”

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

Sumguy, that’s right. Iirc, they wanted to canoe the river before it was dammed up and the hills flooded.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

Oops sorry Hemid, didn’t see your post above

Frip
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Reply to  Boris
1 year ago

“Deliverance…showed that you city-folk better best beware when driving over that hill for a toothless, banjo-pickin’, inbred hillbilly boy could be waiting to pounce.”

Ummmm. Yes.

Spingerah
Spingerah
Reply to  Jerome P. Tarpley
1 year ago

I have never seen midnight cowboy, however I did read the Mad magazine take on as a kid. That and now your review is enough, thank you for dealing with it. I have seen s couple other films from the Era Easy rider of course, taxi driver. The Billy jack movies etc. There is one I still enjoy every few years, Little Big Man. Dustin Hoffman plays the title character but the guy I really enjoy is Chief Dan Gerorge , he was the real deal a first nation’s chief from western Canada. ( An Indian) He was also in… Read more »

Sumguy
Sumguy
Reply to  Jerome P. Tarpley
1 year ago

Thank you for reminding me of Voight’s role in Deliverance. I had forgotten about him, I tend to mostly remember Burt Reynolds and Ned Beatty from that movie for some reason. Ned Beatty mostly for the rape scene. Burt, I guess, because he’s Burt Reynolds, and everybody liked Burt Reynolds back then. That movie is undoubtedly one of the most anti-southern, anti-rural movies ever made. It’s only redeeming quality is the banjo scene, 100% for the music, but not for the “creepy inbred hillbilly” innuendo that it hamfists onto the screen. That movie was created for the sole purpose of… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
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Reply to  Sumguy
1 year ago

Whether you approve the depiction of the hillbillies in remote northeastern Georgia–and I can understand it if you don’t–the notion that Deliverance is a terrible movie or that making Clouds feel superior to rural southerners was its purpose is utterly preposterous. From a techical standpoint, Deliverance is one of the greatest films ever made, from the script, to the acting, to the score, and perhaps foremost, the cinematography. The fact that it offends you changes nothing. Furthermore, screenwriter, James Dickey was a politically incorrect Johnny Reb from the outskirts of Atlanta, hardly some Judeo-Puritan, anti-southern Leftist. And there is nothing… Read more »

Frip
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

“the notion that Deliverance is a terrible movie or that making Clouds feel superior to rural southerners was its purpose is utterly preposterous.” Agree. Far righters can often be just as touchy about how they’re “depicted” in old movies, as Lefties are about every movie ever.

But in general, yeah, Hollywood sticks it to the white man. Obviously.

steve w
steve w
1 year ago

I am late to the parade here, and have only read the first few sentences of Z’s essay. What is this crap about ‘The Searchers’ introducing racism in film? Demonstrably false. Watch ‘No Way Out’ from 1950, with Richard Widmark and Sidney Poitier. Now THAT is a movie about racism. I love ‘The Searchers’, but I never caught any message from it. It is true that John Wayne played a man who detested Injuns and wanted to kill Natalie Wood’s character because she was the spawn of racial impurity. He changed his mind though. Or rather, the director John Ford… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  steve w
1 year ago

I’ve never seen The Searchers but was nevertheless brought up short by Z’s condemnation of it. Hard for me to imagine John Wayne in anything whose overriding theme was “blame whitey.”

Lab erratum
Lab erratum
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

Not at all the theme of ‘The Searchers.’ The book is an incredible read, and the movie follows closely the incredible years-long effort of the Wayne character to find his niece. The enemy is the Comanche, which was also true for other less-warlike indian tribes of the day.

The book was very well-researched and well worth a read.

Ploppy
Ploppy
1 year ago

I liked Taxi Driver, but I also probably took the opposite message of what the film had intended. Travis was living in a very culturally blue city and becoming completely alienated from the feckless degenerate people living there. Think about the characters he meets: other taxi drivers who are just lumpenproles resigned to the reality of their environment, the criminal element that thrives in a left wing city, his love interest as an idealistic brainless white woman, her jew beta white knight coworker, and finally a teenaged whore. The message was probably intended to be about the “authoritarian personality” and… Read more »

Fodderwing
Fodderwing
1 year ago

“Dustin Hoffman plays himself.” That was a hoot!

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Fodderwing
1 year ago

There are a few actors who do that. Christopher Walken, Clint Eastwood and Sean Connery, for instance.

Camelope
Camelope
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

It’s not only some “moderns” who do that. Humphrey Bogart, for all his magnetic screen presence, had virtually no acting range. But he was terrific playing Humphrey Bogart.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Camelope
1 year ago

John Wayne another. Same character every time.

Frip
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

“There are a few actors who play themselves. Christopher Walken, Clint Eastwood and Sean Connery, for instance.”

They’re essentially ‘character actors’ who created star character rolls, because they’re just that unique, naturally likable, and cool. So many old-school actors were like that. Not great actors but good enough, and just cool. Lee Marvin. George C Scott (great actor, but always SO himself), Robert Mitchum.

Lab erratum
Lab erratum
Reply to  Fodderwing
1 year ago

The 3 season ‘Medici’ series, a joint Italian-Brit effort, was marvelous in every respect but one: the (mis)casting of Dustin Hoffman as the Medici patriarch. Luckily, he is killed off in the first episode. His inability to act is brought into glaring relief by the skilled work of the rest of the cast.
If you like beautiful scenes of Tuscany, and high drama based largely on reality (the assassination attempt on Easter Sunday in the Florence Duomo, for one), give it a gander.

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
1 year ago

The degeneracy flood gates opened in the late 60’s… “Summer of Love,” drug culture became ubiquitous, wave #3 of go girl feminazism “insta sluts,”no fault divorce you get the picture, or in this case “the movies.” Some of that was great art, a lot of the music of the period was great as well, more tongue in cheek about the sex and drug references, not in your face like today.
That said, you can enjoy those movies, and music in the abstract without living a degenerate life, or being in essence… a scum bag.

Vinny Cognito
Vinny Cognito
1 year ago

Nobody else said it, so I will.
Hoffman’s character’s name wasn’t Rico. It was Ratso Rizzo.

Brandon Laskow
Brandon Laskow
Reply to  Vinny Cognito
1 year ago

Set in New York City, Midnight Cowboy depicts the unlikely friendship between two hustlers: naïve sex worker Joe Buck (Voight), and ailing con man Rico Rizzo (Hoffman), referred to as “Ratso”.

Frip
Member
Reply to  Vinny Cognito
1 year ago

You really think a mother is going to name her baby Ratzo?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
1 year ago

I saw MC a long time ago, well before the DR, properly speaking, had come into existence. And, to be fair, my political antennae were nowhere near as sensitive as they are now. That said, can we say for certain that MC was actually attempting to make a point about America? Isn’t it possible that it was simply the story of a couple of sad and shady ne’er-do-wells struggling to survive in the cesspit known as New York City? Not that I would put it past the filmmaker and screenwriter to produce a pro-heauxmeaux anti-American allegory, mark you, but I’m… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

I didn’t really get a pro-homo vibe out of it. I guess you could say it served the purpose of desensitizing, whether that was intentional or not.

Hollywood’s real pro-homo campaign, in earnest, didn’t really kick off until the late 80s/early 90s

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Midnight Cowboy is the most recent critically acclaimed movie I can think of that equated homosexuality with deceptiveness—with the progressive innovation that the homo deceptions in MC are unintentional/innocent. Ten years later, Cruising *incidentally* did some gay=liar and the media flipped out about it. In 1992, when the same by then archaic “trope” appeared in Basic Instinct, it caused the lesbian equivalent of street riots (a couple fat chicks in traffic). It’s rarely seen since then, very rarely in anything Western, and never in anything respectable. Possible exception: Characters in David Lynch movies are usually characters from other movies, so… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Coincident with the AIDS panic.

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Well to expound in your point, it certainly wasn’t yet considered weird to be heterosexual, or “normal.” Now being those things is just shy of being a criminal offense.

Tom K
Tom K
1 year ago

Midnight Cowboy was sleazy but another from that era possibly even sleazier was Looking For Mr. Goodbar. But LFMG has a problem, actually two problems. I suspect that’s why it’s so little known today. The problem is that it portrays feminist hedonism and homosexuality in a negative light. You can find it on Youtube last I looked with Bulgarian(?) subtitles. But if you don’t want to feel contaminated, don’t watch.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Tom K
1 year ago

ok.ru/video has pretty much any movie you ever wanted to see free and commercial free

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

LFMG is also available on DVD. Not too expensive. A good but certainly disturbing movie.

Anti-Gnostic
Anti-Gnostic
Reply to  Tom K
1 year ago

I’d forgotten all about LFMG. Difficult movie to watch.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
1 year ago

I haven’t seen the film, but I am told that there is a Seinfeld scene that reenacts the ending bus scene. Imagine my surprise.

A working class cowboy from Texas being drawn to New York City and then corrupted seems like an apt metaphor for this country during my lifetime.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

A cautionary rather than hortatory tale?

Cletus
Cletus
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

On a lighter note, Futurama had a nod to it in the episode “Brannigan, Begin Again”.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Like the Zman, I don’t regret watching MC. But I feel no urge to watch it twice. Perhaps, being a Gen X child of the 70s and 80s, its degeneracy didn’t seem so scandalous to me. I’ve been conditioned. Not long ago I was reading something John Wayne said about how all films should be “family friendly,” which was why he was against the MPAA rating system. Putting aside my thoughts about Wayne, of whom I was never a fan, he did have a point. But you can’t very well start down that road before you quickly arrive at Soviet… Read more »

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Let’s not forget Frank Zappa being outraged in the late 80s because Al Gore’s wife wanted to put warning stickers on his albums containing ridiculous sexual degeneracy. And his side won! And they feel virtuous about it to this day.

Imagine the horror that a sticker may have prevented a mother from buying a Zappa album containing songs about homo S&M bondage for her 10 year old. Our country really dodged a bullet there…

Brandon Laskow
Brandon Laskow
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

Zappa was one hell of a paradox: An absolutely brilliant composer and guitarist, a perfectionist and disciplinarian who would not allow his bandmates to indulge in mind-altering substances, but who had just the most base, juvenile sense of humor.

The documentary about his life and career is worth seeing.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Brandon Laskow
1 year ago

Concur. He is a composer and instrumentalist of significance, very unique, but, in my opinion, a bad human being, although quite fascinating and intelligent. I admit that I would have liked to have had long discussions with him about life and music but then I would have exiled him. Life entails tradeoffs. To anyone who is curious, here is a 3 minute sample of (instrumental) Zappa. It starts out kind harsh, but in the last minute, I think you can sense his unique vision. Try to stick with it and perceive the melodic/harmonic intelligence at work. It’s not pretty, but… Read more »

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

Ugly noise.

“ERROR: Your comment was too short. Please go back and try your comment again.”

Jeez.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Brandon Laskow
1 year ago

He referred to himself as a conservative, too.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

He objected to them being put on other people’s albums. Zappa owned his own record company that sold nothing but his own work—not subject to any proposed regulation—and had recently won the rights to all his own music in a lawsuit against the world’s biggest media company. (Couldn’t happen now.) It wasn’t a self-interested position. Like milquetoast mope John Denver who was equally “outraged,” Zappa was protective of young musicians.

Every late 20th century censorship campaign / media hysteria was the work of leftist feminists. Conservatives, especially conservative Christians, were their useful idiots. As always.

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

Nonetheless… Zappa was the shit!

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

Nobody will remember Zappa in a century.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
1 year ago

Possibly. But one could say that about the vast majority of pop musicians.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

When Whiteland is formed, tolerance is going to be an issue. Clearly, we cannot allow anti-white Leftists to push their filth down society’s throat as America did. In fact, Leftism in generally will have to be rigorously suppressed. However, there must be some semblance of cultural latitude or what you wind up with is an insipid and dull panorama. America’s approach to culture was fatal, but I hope we can do a bit better than Wayneism, although I do greatly admire the Duke.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

Roseanne Barr, who has some sympathies with old America, said that the chosen must control Hollywood because otherwise the only content that would be produced would be fishing shows.

I’m willing to take our chances.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

That comment sounds like it was chosen for Barr by one of the Chosen.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

She’s Jewish, so why would she in your imagination need handlers?

rcocean
rcocean
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

This is ridiculous. We have a production code, its just the Hollwyoods production code. Do you know that in the late 30s and 40s, producers and writers were submitting their scripts and stories to Communist Party USA for vetting? Well, things aren’t much different today. Look at all the crap Mel gibson went through to get “Passion of the Christ” done. It made a Billion and should have sparked a slew of religion film copy-cats. It didn’t – because Hollywood refuses to make those kind of movies. Nobody in Hollywood can get a film done that crosses “The party line”.… Read more »

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
1 year ago

“Today is a house hunting day”

If money’s tight, see if Ramzpaul has a spare bedroom at the “Wolf’s Lair.” It would be fun to watch Ramzpaul and occasionally see Z Man stumble around in the background in his robe and morning coffee.

mmack
mmack
1 year ago

Today is a house hunting day

Tote at least a 75mm Z. You want to ensure when you hit that house, it doesn’t get away.

Sgt Pedantry
Sgt Pedantry
1 year ago

Jew projection

( and what did Voight have to do to get that role?)

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Sgt Pedantry
1 year ago

It is noteworthy that in spite of his outspoken “conservatism,” Voight never truly fell out of favor in Hollywood as some others have. Perhaps temporarily, but he was always back. And recently, after public support for the Orange Man, he is still getting plenty of work. Can you name one other like that? And now today he is full throated for our greatest ally.

Krustykurmudgeon
Krustykurmudgeon
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Voight, up until the gwb years, was a total shitlib

Filthie
Filthie
Member
1 year ago

I would a been a wee Filthster when those kind of movies came out. At that age I was a voracious reader but still playing with GI Joe and Johnny West. I would sit down and watch these movies with my shitlib family and wonder what the hell was wrong with them and what they saw in such shows. They’d tell me to shut up and that one day I’d be grown up enough to understand. Here I am, pushing 60 hard… and I still don’t understand. Do people actually DO stuff like that? If so…why? Nowadays those people are… Read more »

Krustykurmudgeon
Krustykurmudgeon
1 year ago

If we’re talking about movies from that era – have any of you guys seen the parallax view? It’s basically one of the first schizo movies. The best scene is where he goes into a room and is shown pictures in a slideshow and the music gets gradually more hard rocking

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  Krustykurmudgeon
1 year ago

One of my favorites. And too close to the truth (viz, targeted domestic assassinations and the subsequent political cover-ups) to be comfortable viewing.

Mike
Mike
Reply to  Krustykurmudgeon
1 year ago

I’ve seen it and have the dvd, it’s hard to watch now though because it hits close to home. It and Three Days of the Condor and Marathon Man could have been made today with all the government/intelligence bad behavior going on now.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Mike
1 year ago

Cliff Robertson’s monologue about US foreign policy and the sheeple from the end of Three Days of the Condor could have been written yesterday.

“Ask us? They’ll just want us to go and get it for them.”

Tarl Cabot
Tarl Cabot
1 year ago

However unpleasant, these movies are aesthetically and historically important, as they simultaneously reflect and promote the culture of existential nihilism that defines late empire America.

America probably should have collapsed after the 1970s. We got a 50 year reprieve, thanks to microchip induced prosperity and a wellspring of cultural virtue not yet completely exhausted by the Pill and Diversity. But the plan was in place, and Hollywood was there to show us what they intended for us.

Anti-Gnostic
Anti-Gnostic
Reply to  Tarl Cabot
1 year ago

This is an interesting thesis. If we had halted immigration, not succumbed to Die-versity, our population stabilization and still lots of wide-open space might have cured us. Germanics get neurotic when they don’t have enough lebensraum.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Tarl Cabot
1 year ago

It’s hard to picture a 90% white nation “collapsing.” Ebbs and flows, ups and downs, but not collapse.

john smyth
john smyth
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

You didn’t live during the 1970s . . . stagflation, gas crisis (1973) and (1977), and all the cultural and racial problems of the present, though white flight was possible. Notice the word flight. NYC was far worse than even today in terms of crime and trash on the street. Those 70s movies Z refers to give a flavor for this. Reagan, for his faults, did change the mood of the country and combined with the subsequent computer revolution, pointed out above, the rot was slowed somewhat, though the offshoring of jobs had begun, with free market Republicans leading the… Read more »

john smyth
john smyth
Reply to  john smyth
1 year ago

correction 1979

NateG
NateG
1 year ago

Midnight Cowboy and Cruising are probably the two most disgusting movies I’ve ever watched. There is a nod to Midnight Cowboy in Cruising when a cop wearing only a cowboy hat smacks some detainees around. Pretty weird stuff.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  NateG
1 year ago

I watched about ten minutes of Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans and I was so thoroughly filled with disgust I had to turn it off, so it may be up there, too.

Stranger in a Strange Land
Stranger in a Strange Land
1 year ago

Saw it when first released. What I most vividly recall: ‘X’ rated movie – no one under 18 admitted – I was not yet 18 – would I be turned away – nerves ablaze. Made it in – anxious to see some…skin. By the end – kind of disappointed in lack thereof. Hoffman as Rico Ratso: “I’m walkin’ here” most memorable line. Brenda Vacarro was kind of sexy. At that time, hate whitey was not really a thing and the thought of whatever homo’s did was dis-gus-ting. This was pre-aids, gay still meant happy, and a rainbow was something pretty… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Stranger in a Strange Land
1 year ago

Yep. But by 1969 the pathogens were certainly in the bloodstream. It took another 50 years for the patient to die.

Johnny
Johnny
1 year ago

Zman did you hear about this movie Killers of the Flower Moon? Basically a Dicaprio and Martin Scorcese movie that deems White man stole Native American oil wealth. So White man bad in Oklahoma over 100 years ago is the 2023 focus of Hollywood. Dances with Wolves was also this way. They volley back between Black man victim to Native American Indian the victim, but White man always bad. Also they have to go back 100 years ago because they have so few stories to use in the current day.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Johnny
1 year ago

KOTFM is there to shape the frame every time somebody wants to build a pipeline or drill an oil well on “native land.”

If “native land” is a real thing, then doesn’t that mean there is also “white land”? Somewhere? Doesn’t the existence of one automatically imply the existence of the other?

fakeemail
fakeemail
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

No white land because the colonist oppressors forfeited their homelands by their aggression. . .so the logic goes.

fakeemail
fakeemail
Reply to  Johnny
1 year ago

Yep, the volley from black, to indian, to illegals, to jews, to arabs, to covid, to vaccines, to ukraine, to taiwan, to trannies, to you name it. The truth about worldy power is this: divide and conquer. The rulers want the endless conflict and war. It solidifies their power and gives them cassus belli to do whatever they want. Winning or losing wars is besides the point. They care not if a nuke goes off in the US; they might prefer it. The point is money and tightening tyrannical power, and maybe killing a lot of the overpopulation while they’re… Read more »

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Johnny
1 year ago

They also continually go back in time to trot out the Emmitt Till story every few weeks in the NYT. Didn’t they also just do a movie about poor ol’ dindunuffin Emmitt Till?

Moviemakers could make it extremely easy on themselves in finding material if they focused on Whites-as-victims. The Jupiter Paulsen Story, The Ethan Liming Story, The Cannon Hinnant Story, the list is endless.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 year ago

Not to mention the Knoxville Horror and the Wichita Wilding.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Johnny
1 year ago

The Hwite Man stole oil wealth? So what. The Red Man stole the other Red Man’s buffalo wealth. Way before the Hwite Man arrived.
The Red Man was vicious, just as much as anyone else, if not moreso.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Marko
1 year ago

Genocide? Check. Slavery? Check. Cannibalism? Check. And torture? Man, you don’t even want to know.

rcocean
rcocean
Reply to  Johnny
1 year ago

Dances with wolves was absurd. The Noble Red man. Lets skip over the stealing, torturing prisoners, raping captives, treating women as slaves, and the general low-level barbarism. Look, we all want to romanticize the Native Americans. And we have been doing that for a long time (cf: last of the mohicans published in 1823). But Dances with Wolves took it to a whole new level. As for Killer moon, out of all the stories Scorcese could tell, why did he chose this one? I wont see it because the trailer looked boring and 3.5 hours is too long. But the… Read more »

Melissa
Melissa
1 year ago

Best of luck today. Moving can be a pain but I think you’ll enjoy life in the hollers where Mountaineers are always free.
May you never again need to worry about finding one of Ladonika’s fingernails in your mashed potatoes on your occasional trip to Popeyes.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Melissa
1 year ago

…Or Shantyce in a Walgreens wearing a pink leotard while she talks with someone on speakerphone.

Melissa
Melissa
Reply to  Marko
1 year ago

Good one. Isn’t it Shan’Tyce, though?
Do you remember when we didn’t think it could get any worse than Shanequa and Ray Ray?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Melissa
1 year ago

I remember when Shaquille and Beyonce were beyond bizarre. Actually, they still are, but by today’s standards they might as well be Steve and Betty.

Herrman
Herrman
Member
1 year ago

Hey Zman, if you’re looking for new digs might I suggest the Upper Peninsula. Sure we got endless bugs, endless winter, and we’re a couple hundred miles past the edge of the known world, but it does keep the riff-raff out. If I didn’t get my morning dose of rage from the internet (possible only due to a satellite) I’d think the world was a wonderful place, and all the people in it moved here from Mayberry. I’ve lived all over this country, and being a Yooper is the best. I was born under the bridge when my dad worked… Read more »

Druve-By Shooter
Druve-By Shooter
Reply to  Herrman
1 year ago

Herr Man, You’ve just reminded me of a drive through the UP (which ought to be a peninsula of Wisconsin) during the summer of 1988. There was a big drought all over that year, and much of the forest along US-2 burned furiously. By the time my father, brother, and I passed through, there were huge areas of charred black vertical sticks as far as the eye could see from the highway. At night the glow of fire was visible from the shore of Green Bay near Fox Park on M-35. (The park is between Escanaba and Menominee.) It’s by… Read more »

Drive-By Shooter
Drive-By Shooter
1 year ago

“He quits his menial job and takes a bus to New York City for reasons that are never explained.”

Maybe this explains it: “A gay man, Herlihy became a close friend of playwright Tennessee Williams, who served as his mentor.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Leo_Herlihy#Biography

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_Cowboy_(novel)

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Drive-By Shooter
1 year ago

It seemed obvious to me, when I first watched MC not very long ago, that he was enthralled by MSM reports of women’s sexual liberation, none of which seemed to be happening in the west Texas town where he was washing dishes at the diner, so he headed off to NYC, where he was led to believe the women were lusty and putting out left and right.

Drive-By Shooter
Drive-By Shooter
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

An interesting bit of trivia about the movie (which I confess to have seen not) is that, Crazy Annie, Joe Buck’s lover in Texas, was played by Jennifer Salt. (Source: Wikipedia) She was the daughter of Waldo Salt, the screenplay writer who adapted the queer novel for…

Producer (((Jerome Hellman)))

and

Director (((John Schlesinger)))..

From now on, I will refer to that movie and its clueless star as Midnight Cowboygolem.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Drive-By Shooter
1 year ago

Midnight CowGoy?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  KGB
1 year ago

Or just Midnight Cowgolem.

Mike
Mike
Reply to  KGB
1 year ago

How about Midnight Goyboy?

EwigeGayDissoluteBrit
EwigeGayDissoluteBrit
Reply to  Drive-By Shooter
1 year ago

Unless you’re just funning on the parentheses bit, to point out that any given credited producer or director is btw Jewish seems trivial. Do bears closed-caption in the woods?

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

His premise wasn’t wrong — i.e., that sex-starved middle-aged and moneyed women might want, er, a little young male company. But such women want it with a bit of class. They don’t just want a roll in the hay — “Wham, bam, thank you, Ma,am.” But class is the one thing he didn’t have, i.e., “cultural capital.” His entrepreneurial project was doomed to failure and in the big city he sank to his natural level — that of a lumpenprole.

TomA
TomA
1 year ago

Have never seen it, nor intend to, despite Z’s recommendation. But I do remember seeing the movie posters when it originally came out and reading some of the reviews, which even back were obviously veiled propaganda selling an agenda rather than a cinema critique. I lump this crap in with the blaxploitation movies of the same era. Intentionally demeaning faux storylines that leave the viewer far stupider as the reward for being suckered out of the price of admission. Movies like this are the venereal disease of our culture.

Curious Monkey
Curious Monkey
Reply to  TomA
1 year ago

I watched 30 min of it recently as I wanted to see a film with NYC 60’s footage (that is now 60 years ago). It has some great shots of American places, but soon I realized this film was demoralization and I could not continue watching. It is not even scandalous for 2020’s, but you realize the purpose of films like these was to make me say that it is not that filthy now LOL. It is a degenerate film, but you can find uglier stuff in pronTube, LMAO we are F’ed. Zman is right that if you care about… Read more »

Anti-Gnostic
Anti-Gnostic
Reply to  Curious Monkey
1 year ago

I am a decade earlier, so I have a foot in both camps. Something broke really badly in the 1960s when I was a boy. There was a resurgence in the 80s. Then what happened? In my family the grandparents born in the 1910s died off and that was the end of the large family gatherings. My parents and their cousins, my aunts/uncles, drifted apart. I didn’t step up because I was caught up in what I thought would be rewarding, lucrative career. So that was that. Anecdote: I remember my father telling me he could never get his grandparents,… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
1 year ago

Best of luck in your house hunting, Zman. Hope you find the perfect spot. Movies are just longer tv shows – same shite, different medium. I’d rather watch the leaves fall.

Fred Beans
Fred Beans
1 year ago

Speaking of anti-white movies, Martin Scorsese’s latest, 3 1/2 hour! production was reviewed by Aaron Sleazy. It’s been getting critical praise. He was invited to its release in his country. He said he would have walked out after an hour but didn’t want to be rude to his hosts.

https://blog.aaronsleazy.com/index.php/2023/10/23/scorseses-killers-of-the-flower-moon-2023-is-abject-anti-white-propaganda/

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  Fred Beans
1 year ago

Another “white savior/noble FBI” movie is Mississippi Burning. Look, I’m originally from the Magnolia state so I know firsthand all its flaws, but that movie paints it as definitely in the 3rd World category. None of its roads are paved, all of its law enforcement are kluxers, and every black is a passive victim of its reprehensibly oppressive oppression. The truth is quite different. The vast majority of its people are simple, hard-working, non-intellectual, and kind-hearted. In other words, prey for the vultures in Hollywood and the MSM. They also have understandably become somewhat paranoid about outsiders. Gene Hackman and… Read more »

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  Tom K
1 year ago

The film was crud. There was a much earlier film also set in Ole Miss that you must also have seen — “In the Heat of the Night.” Most of the whites are portrayed as clueless crackers and the one out-of-town black detective single-handedly solves the murder case. These films do harm to the image of Mississippi and the white people living there.

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  Arshad Ali
1 year ago

I’ve seen it. Directed by Norman Jewison lol.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Tom K
1 year ago

Norman Jewison? He’s that famous Thai film director, ain’t he?

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Tom K
1 year ago

Wikipedia: Canadian. “He is often mistaken for being Jewish due to his surname and direction of Fiddler on the Roof, but Jewison and his family are Protestants of English descent.[5]”

5. This Terrible Business has been Good to Me. October 27, 2004

Carl B.
Carl B.
1 year ago

A film from the 1950’s was a much more subtle slam on “toxic masculinity” and White American male culture:: “Tea and Sympathy” . The assault began in earnest with “Payton Place” and “The Defiant Ones.”. Then in the Sixties came one of the worst films of all time: “Guess Who’s Coming To Dinner.”

Carl B.
Carl B.
Reply to  Carl B.
1 year ago

Should read ” Peyton” damn autocorrect.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Carl B.
1 year ago

Speaking of Peyton, Archie Manning named his son Peyton after Walter Peyton. The cuckery runs strong in the Manning fambly.

Stranger in a Strange Land
Stranger in a Strange Land
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

UT the ol’ alma mater – never heard that before – please say that ain’t so.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Stranger in a Strange Land
1 year ago

SISL, it is so.

shaken, not stirred but definitely muddled
shaken, not stirred but definitely muddled
Reply to  Carl B.
1 year ago

Today is Hillary Clinton’s birthday, let’s all wish her–something

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Carl B.
1 year ago

Z did a green door review of “Guess Who’s” and as I remarked here at the time: it’s worth the Green Door subscription just to read that review.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
1 year ago

Watched it once, made me physically ill. Read Lolita and one of Philip Roth’s early novels; didn’t finish either. A while back, my friend’s hipster girlfriend recommended a movie called Short Bus. Made it about 15 minutes into that one.

I think art can be challenging, and even offensive, but if it leaves you feeling soul-sucked, it’s not art. Just the opposite, in fact. Easy to identify, but like covid, too many people follow the experts and their trends, even if they have a better judgement.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 year ago

“I think art can be challenging, and even offensive, but if it leaves you feeling soul-sucked, it’s not art”

That describes so much art today. Whether movies, music, written word or modern art, it’s all meant to induce suicidal thoughts.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 year ago

For the entirety of history humans made art to inspire civic pride, express standards of beauty, celebrate triumph, mark important events, or reflect praise back toward a deity/ies. It wasn’t until the late 19th and particularly the 20th Century that the idea of creating any emotion/response became accepted as art. It’s a cheap trick usually committed by a less than talented hack to garner fame or attention. Desecration of venerable societal totems or mores, or simply promoting a gag reflex by the use the fetid displays are its hallmark. The Charlatan will nail a bloody menstrual rag to the wall… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Penitent Man
1 year ago

Very good post, but I would offer one caveat to your thesis–music. In the realm of music, particularly instrumental music, the elicitation of emotion is one of the mainmost hallmarks of true excellence. Beethoven’s Fifth has no words and therefore no rational content. But the symphony certainly does have a content, and the content is its emotional resonance.

plato spaghetti
plato spaghetti
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 year ago

New Rules for the New Enlightenment: In all things, the polarity shall be reversed.
For example, music and/or visual art must be ugly in order to have meaning. In film and/or literature, he villain is the hero (hence the quaint modern term “anti-hero”). This includes children’s stories, as illustrated in the play “Wicked”. Goodness is subjective and power is the only legitimate virtue. All standards and concepts once accepted as true shall be ridiculed and/or stood on their head.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  plato spaghetti
1 year ago

There’s a term for this on the DR–Satanic inversion.

fakeemail
fakeemail
1 year ago

In my lifetime, the happiest time of movies was the birth of the blockbuster franchise, which of course ruined movies as an art form ultimately. 1975: JAWS: a terrifying movie, maybe the scariest ever, but a movie in the end about triumph and overcoming a horrendous threat. 1976: ROCKY: the greatest underdog story ever; pure heart and inspiration. And yes, implicitly about a working-class WHITE man (like Rambo). 1977: STAR WARS: White farmboy is the hero defeating galactic despots that (at the time) could be thought of as the USSR type deal. 1978: SUPERMAN: Christopher Reeve embodied the best of… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  fakeemail
1 year ago

The original Rocky still holds up 50 years on as great filmmaking. Shame they couldn’t resist the temptation.

fakeemail
fakeemail
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

I actually love the sequels (including V), but they are of course not of the caliber of the original.

Did not like 2006 “Rocky Balboa.” Seemed like bad fan fiction to me. As for the Creed series. . .pass.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  fakeemail
1 year ago

III and IV were fun in a campy sort of way, but the longer it went on the worse it got

Stranger in a Strange Land
Stranger in a Strange Land
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

The best part of the movie (first one) is the Bill Conti soundtrack. I have the vinyl album stashed someplace.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Stranger, I always say that, to this day, that’s the best workout music ever composed

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 year ago

Bill Conti’s theme to Rocky was one of the first 45’s my parents bought for me.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  fakeemail
1 year ago

I thought the 2006 one was decent, the story was a based on a fight simulation that was done between Rocky Marciano and Muhammad Ali.

Rocky V is better than its reputation and has some really good moments with the Mickey character. It’s also a good reminder that had a legit White heavyweight champ from Oklahoma in the 90s in the form of Tommy Morrison, shame the guy couldn’t keep his head on straight.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 year ago

It was Morrison’s dick, not his head, that got him in trouble and he died of AIDS. (He had a comeback of sorts after claiming the diagnosis was wrong, but it wasn’t.)

Not quite big enough to carry off his fighting style, I think.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  fakeemail
1 year ago

The birth of the blockbuster is an interesting thing. Jaws usually gets credited for being the first, but The Godfather (1974) and even The Exorcist (1973) are sometimes nominated for kicking off the blockbuster phenomenon.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

Correction. The Godfather was released in ’72.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  fakeemail
1 year ago

Uh, George Lucas is on record that Star Wars is his Vietnam movie.

He saw the rebels as his Viet Cong.

Hokkoda
Member
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 year ago

George Lucas is well known as not understanding his own films. For all his pretendy Left winger bluster, the good guy characters are white, classically-American, archetypes complaining about leviathan government and ruthless totalitarianism. No gays. Billy Dee Williams didn’t have a chip on his shoulders. And nobody sitting around the casting department worrying about “representation”. I like watching Star Wars as a movie about white people saving the galaxy. I love watching Star Wars because I know George Lucas knows he made a movie he hates and he will go to his grave frustrated that his two biggest achievements –… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Hokkoda
1 year ago

Interesting take. American Grafitti wasn’t exactly an anti-white screed either.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
1 year ago

“He quits his menial job and takes a bus to New York City for reasons that are never explained. He immediately decides to make a living as a male prostitute, targeting middle-aged women.” The reasons seemed clear enough to me — just look at the dead-end job he was doing at that restaurant. And he decided to become, er, a male escort before he even boarded the bus — as he explains to his sceptical black co-worker at the restaurant. I liked the beginning of the film — the soundtrack and the vast expanse of the country as he takes… Read more »

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  Arshad Ali
1 year ago

There’s enough film with a similar theme that you might enjoy more — “A French Gigolo,” released in 2008 It has adequate subtitles.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  Arshad Ali
1 year ago

Sorry, meant “another”, not “enough.”

p
p
Reply to  Arshad Ali
1 year ago

The best part of the movie was the Harry Nilsson song “Everybody’s talkin’ at me”

fakeemail
fakeemail
Reply to  p
1 year ago

and the line “I’m walkin’ here!”

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  p
1 year ago

Nilsson was a terrific singer/songwriter. Somewhat overlooked, too.

Cg2
Cg2
Reply to  p
1 year ago

It’s in my top 146 all time great pop tunes

fakeemail
fakeemail
1 year ago

I have mixed feelings on “Taxi Driver.” It’s of course well acted, interesting premise, and iconic and all that. BUT it pulls a bait-and-switch ultimately. It takes the real and legitimate fear of urban crime, alienation, and societal degradation and delegitimizes it because the feeling of those feelings is Travis Bickle, who is nuts.

Originally, the Jodie Foster pimp played by Keitel was supposed to black, but Scorsese chickened out.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  fakeemail
1 year ago

Gotta admit, though, I can’t really imagine someone else aside from Keitel on that role. No, I get what your saying though.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Forever Templar
1 year ago

I can’t imagine anybody but Keitel as “the Cleaner.”

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  fakeemail
1 year ago

Scorsese could have got away with a black pimp at that time — I recall other “blaxploitation” films that had blacks in unsavory roles. “Dolemite” (released in 1975) being one example.

fakeemail
fakeemail
Reply to  Arshad Ali
1 year ago

A black pimp he could get away with by himself. But not one pimping out a white girl and getting killed by a white man.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  fakeemail
1 year ago

You may have a point. While we’re talking about black pimps, let’s also recall the film “Magnum Force” (with Clint Eastwood) made a few years prior. That also had a black pimp, but apparently only having black prostitutes under his wing.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Arshad Ali
1 year ago

Remember Sudden Impact from 1983 where Clint greases three youfs while uttering two classic lines?

right2remainviolent
right2remainviolent
Reply to  fakeemail
1 year ago

I also think Taxi Driver is a missed comparison simply by placing it’s seedy nature side by side with Easy Rider. Travis does a good by blasting a pedo pimp and trying to rescue the girl, but his character is written as a nutjob not so subtly (maybe) implying that only wackos would punish that type of behavior. Also, Travis has natural urges and desires but the society that has molded him led him astray. He’s genuinely confused that the porno theater date is a flop, he’s disgusted by his job/clientele, and he gets a glimpse of what politics really… Read more »

fakeemail
fakeemail
Reply to  right2remainviolent
1 year ago

Travis is a great character. He is a confused young man, a simple innocent who is warped and used by society and is slowly able to grasp this fact.

But like you said, it makes the idea of punishing the crime and bad behavior that of a “whack job.”

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  fakeemail
1 year ago

I find myself agreeing with Bickle. Gen. Ripper in Strangelove, too. Who cares if they’re crazy? Maybe they aren’t crazy. It’s the old peer pressure bit, when you get down to it.

mikeski
Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 year ago

I find myself agreeing with Bickle. Gen. Ripper in Strangelove, too.

Col. Jessup in A Few Good Men, as well.

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 year ago

Come to think of it I never have seen a Russian drinking water.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  fakeemail
1 year ago

Bickle was nuts, but he was also an undoubted hero. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a film whose message was more mixed than Taxi Driver. At any rate, I think we’ve all felt a lot like Travis Bickle from time to time.

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

I suspect the intent of the movie was to show he was a ticking time bomb despite the environment, but imagine if his date with that woman went well and they married and moved to the suburbs.

RealityRules
RealityRules
1 year ago

Thank God for ZMan and our other outlets. Check out the utter delusional pap from VHD today. America from 1609 to 1965 was not multi-racial. My God these people are impotent. In the meantime, the same site has taken down a post by Dennis Prager. In Prager’s post he claims that it is the Jew’s God that everyone worships. It is they who created the moral standard that the entire world kneels to. Any calamity that befalls them is evil perpetrated by the dark that seeks to tear down the light of humanity. He ends by explicitly exclaiming that he… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  RealityRules
1 year ago

Judeo-Christianity: do God’s Chosen have God killed? Obvious contradiction there. Just a little grappling with it required.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 year ago

Replying to Painter, if you’ll allow me to speak in the Christian dialect: So some would say, ‘well then, is it or is it not God’s Word? I say it is; He gives the searcher example after example of the Deciever’s method: Take a true history, and then rewrite it, casting oneself in the role. Steal the credit and reassign the blame. Once inured to seeing between the lines, the searcher is then inured to seeing beyond today’s lies and revisions. Thus the Spirit fortifies our armor of truth, rather than casting doubt upon us. There is a force of… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

p.s.- and who told you He must be some all-powerful arch magician?

Why the very ones who claimed that yet, they tricked even the All-Powerful into a deal He could not break, a stone He could not lift.

Hint: It was not the Creator with whom they made their deal.

Tricked themselves, were they, the arrogant ones?
Offered the promise of a throne?

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

At any rate, and at the risk of being heretical, Yahweh’s ethics and Jesus’ ethics ethics aren’t the same. One leads to desolation, the other, to the empty tomb. That much is clear. Imo it’s something people are going to have to come to terms with to get out of this shit show alive.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 year ago

That’s what Marcion said. He might have a point.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 year ago

Yep. It seems like you have to choose between heresy and living with the JQ.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 year ago

Jesus disagreed with your assertion that their ethics are not the same. The Jews’ practiced ethics are not those that were given to them by God.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 year ago

But Jesus also modified the commandments, lifted prohibitions on food, broke bread with the ‘unclean’, made the ultimate sacrifice to end sacrifice, Great Commission, etc. Lots of radical changes.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 year ago

Jesus never declared a single bit of the law evil. If he fulfilled parts of the law, that’s a completely different thing. On the contrary, Jesus said: “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 year ago

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.”

Which, I think, is why Jesus said, “It is finished,” before He gave up the ghost.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 year ago

John 8:37-45 I know you are Abraham’s descendants, but you are trying to kill Me because My word has no place within you. I speak of what I have seen in the presence of the Father, and you do what you have heard from your father.” “Abraham is our father,” they replied. “If you were children of Abraham,” said Jesus, “you would do the works of Abraham. But now you are trying to kill Me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham never did such a thing. You are doing the works of… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Vizzini
1 year ago

Either God had changed the rules and disinherited the Jews, or Jesus was talking about a different god. I can’t see any other meaning to that passage.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 year ago

“The rules” never said that God had to continue to bless the Jews even if they abandoned him. Covenants are contracts that have responsibilities on both sides. You don’t get the benefits of the contract if you don’t fulfill your responsibilities under the contract. There are plenty of OT examples where God let the Jews endure suffering for long periods because of their faithlessness. They’re absolutely free to accept Jesus and get back in God’s good graces. All the apostles were Jews who made the right choice. If the Jews he was addressing were following the Devil it’s only speaking… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 year ago

If God can unilaterally change the contract— and accepting Jesus is a change— then it’s not a contract. It’s the stuff of lawsuits in the affairs of men. I’m OK with that because God should be omnipotent, and being omnipotent, he can be capricious from our perspective. That creates problems, though. I’m convinced of EMJ’s argument that the gospel of John is crucially important. Making God the Logos was the second step (following the Great Commission) in making Christianity a gentile religion. But Logos has to be universal and unchanging— that’s the basis of philosophy and science, isn’t it? Looking… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  RealityRules
1 year ago

The article starts out with a lie, and proceeds to more. This moral revisionism relates to the Spanish Civil War. From my web notes: “A whole bunch of stuff just made sense right now, like all those desecration of nuns’ remains, the burning of churches, theft of Spanish wealth… This wasn’t really a civil war after all. It was just another extremely bloody jewish culture revolution.” Led by France’s Leon Blum Re the Arianite Goths: “This isn’t the first time. A major pill is collapse of the Visigothic kingdom. Funding or leading rebellions, leading slave trade, helping the Arab armies.… Read more »

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  RealityRules
1 year ago

“In Prager’s post he claims that it is the Jew’s God that everyone worships.”

This is why I advocate that if you want to worship God, stick a horned helm and eyepatch on him and give him a magic spear and two ravens. Then you’re free of the Jew crap.

Ostei Kozelskii
Ostei Kozelskii
Reply to  Ploppy
1 year ago

You suggesting we worship Lothar Thorstein?

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

The Christian God is pretty much just an adaptation of the European chief god figure (old man with a white beard, shoots lightning bolts) applied to make the demonic blood god of Judaism function in Western culture. Same as how we have Christmas instead of some crappy Jew holiday.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
1 year ago

The first season of “Deuce” is in a similar vein, the pimp scene in seedy disco 70s NYC. It really catches the Dinkins vibe.

As Ol’ Remus told us, great art is a snapshot, capturing a place and time (that is no more.)

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

70’s Dinkins vibe? He was mayor in 90-94. Lindsey, Beame, and Koch (my favorite) during 70’s. City was seedy as it came out of the hippie era and into the Civil Rights era, but it was never out of control as it was with Dinkins (and last two mayors). Indeed, the Dinkins era gave rise to two good conservative (for NYC anyway) mayors: Giuliani and Bloomberg. Of course, the last “good” mayors came about with a city still half White. That is now down to 30% or so. No hope for recovery.

fakeemail
fakeemail
1 year ago

He way gay, Gary Cooper?

KGB
KGB
Reply to  fakeemail
1 year ago

“Columbus was so long ago he might as well have been a movie!”

Felix Krull
Member
1 year ago

This is a movie made by and for people who hate themselves

The people who made Midnight Cowboy don’t hate themselves. They hate white people.

Dinodoxy
Dinodoxy
1 year ago

Like Taxi Driver, which I also hated, Midnight Cowboy is important because of what it represents on the historical timeline. When the robot historians attempt to retrace the steps that led to the collapse of the American experiment, they will no doubt look at the popular entertainment of this period for clues. Within a single generation, America went from the pinnacle of cultural achievement to the world of Midnight Cowboy. Here’s a real question – and conundrum. Does degenerate entertainment like MC or TD or any number of other examples drive degeneracy? Or are they popular because the degeneracy is… Read more »

RDittmar
Member
Reply to  Dinodoxy
1 year ago

For what it’s worth, I’m kind of in the former camp. I think Hollywood degeneracy creates degeneracy in the wider population. I think the primo example of this is the non-stop profanity we’re subjected to now. I’ll never forget how much this offended my grandpa. He actually saw combat up close and personal in WW2 – something he would never talk about – so I’m sure he was well acquainted with profanity. He always hated though sitting down to watch a movie and hearing all the characters go on and on with the “‘eff this you effing mother effing eff.”… Read more »

3 Pipe Problem
3 Pipe Problem
Reply to  RDittmar
1 year ago

Concur. The whole point of profanity, as I understand it, is the expression of sudden, intense feelings. The ultimate adjective, like nukes, to be used only in dire need, if at all. One hears f*ck so often now it’s a commonplace, a crutch word.

not my people
not my people
Reply to  3 Pipe Problem
1 year ago

I was once walking down a street behind 2 apparently vocabulary restricted punks and every other word was effing , so I started singing “Oh, its “effing this and effing that and effing down the street, they’ve only got one adverb and its effing hard to beat” hahahaaaaa

Brandon Laskow
Brandon Laskow
Reply to  3 Pipe Problem
1 year ago

F*ck used to be the worst word in the English language. That honor is now bestowed upon the word n*gg3r. Any white person who has ever said that word in any context deserves to have their life completely ruined. Of course, Oppressed People of Color (TM) get to say it with impunity. What could be more empowering?

Boarwild
Boarwild
Reply to  RDittmar
1 year ago

RDittmar –

So sick of hearing that word I removed it from my vocabulary entirely.

Just like sex scenes in movies; it’s old now man – get over it!

Whitney
Member
Reply to  RDittmar
1 year ago

Raiders of the Lost ark came out when I was 14 and I thought Karen Allen’s character was so cool that she could drink all the men under the table and at 14 that became my goal and I emulated her for too much of my life. It wasn’t the only factor obviously but it was definitely A factor. When people ask me why I don’t drink now I just say “I’ve had enough” because that is the truth.

Drive-By Shooter
Drive-By Shooter
Reply to  Whitney
1 year ago

On the contrary, you had too much. It seems obvious to me that your trajectory was fully intended by (((Lawrence Kasdan))), who is usually given credit for writing the screenplay even though the story originated with Lucas and (((Philip Kaufman))). On a related note, see the work of E. Michael Jones for details about the role of the usual suspects in the beverage alcohol business in Poland, esp. before the partitions of the late 1700’s. Jones claims that they had some sort of lock on production or distribution, in addition to the privilege of running a state within a state… Read more »

KGB
KGB
Reply to  RDittmar
1 year ago

My grandfather, born in 1904, was appalled at TV commercials for feminine products. And those were the first ones, the ones with gauzy pastel shots of flowers and fields; the ones where it wasn’t quite clear what they were selling. How could he deal with today’s ads, where flabby shrews talk about rubbing deodorant on their private parts and underboobs?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  KGB
1 year ago

And who could possibly forget Kathy Ragby?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  RDittmar
1 year ago

My respect for any individual is inversely proportional to his usage of the F-word. People who can’t speak a single sentence without dropping an F-bomb are tasteless, idiotic clods. As such, they’re a sign of the dismal times.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

My feeling is that its use should be governed by the same rules that we used as children. With your friends, ok. Around your parents, other adults, and strangers, nope.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  KGB
1 year ago

And not all your friends. There are those I never use the word around and others with whom I might occasionally drop one.

ChrisZ
ChrisZ
Reply to  Dinodoxy
1 year ago

I think the key is that societal rectitude is fragile, always and everywhere, and must be consistently maintained, promoted, favored, and exalted (I.e., depicted as an ideal of morality and beauty) in order thrive. Permitting even a small element of denigration or “transgression”—perhaps more accurately termed “desecration”—introduces a poison that leads to the downward, mutually reinforcing cycle of degenerate art inspiring degenerate behavior inspiring even more degenerate art… to Doomsday. The fragility is why great cultures have been homogeneous on the path to their apex, and suspicious of introducing (or even tolerating) alien cultural elements. The visible contrast between natives… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  ChrisZ
1 year ago

That’s the best post I’ve read on this site in quite some time, and that’s saying something.

ChrisZ
ChrisZ
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

That’s very generous, Ostei. Thanks.

Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  Dinodoxy
1 year ago

Look at all the post-1960s (J-ish) movies chock-full of blasphemy: it’s clearly in there for a reason.

Think about the music industry. Does gangsta rap inspire black crime? You bet! Did The Beatles inspire kids to do drugs? You bet!

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Dinodoxy
1 year ago

Good question, where does degeneracy come from. I think material wealth is necessary. Material wealth has the extremely unfortunate effect of sheltering people from the consequences of bad choices. And degeneracy is so dysgenic that it burns itself out in a subsistence environment. So material wealth is the necessary prerequisite. With it being present my guess is many factors including pop culture, mass media, boredom, the survival of spiteful mutants and other factors reinforce each other. Until it becomes necessary to start all over again

Dinodoxy
Dinodoxy
1 year ago

The prototypical Hollywood cowboy movie of the mid 20th century has more to do with Judean fantasies that it does with the actual American west. A town full of peaceful and good people is being terrorized by a small band of criminals. Until a lone hero appears from no where to save the people of the town from evil. Then, having done so vanishes back into the mists from which he came. It’s pure messiah saving the shtetl fantasy . The real American west, was settled by hard men, many with experience fighting the civil war. Comfortable with violence and… Read more »

ChrisZ
ChrisZ
Reply to  Dinodoxy
1 year ago

This is a great comment, pregnant with potential for elaboration. It seems to me it describes a lot of our popular culture.

In fact, it makes me wonder whether the inability of Rightists to gain traction in the culture is (at least partly) because the basic story of the salvific individual is not really *our* story. That goes against intuition—rugged individual, Ronald Reagan, and all that—but that’s what makes it such an interesting insight.

Dino, if you’ve written more on this, or can be encouraged to, I would be interested in reading it. Thanks.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  ChrisZ
1 year ago

That would be a good observation. I’ve referred to it (from the book) as “waiting for Superman” any number of times. What we see in MC is the convergence of two societal occurrences/trends: The removal of the old Hayes movie code (in favor of the new rating system—a joke), and a trend toward the concept of the “anti-hero”. Heretofore, the “antihero” was used in action movies, i.e., the hero who does good really isn’t that good/virtuous at all, but wins in the end—and of course, “the end justifies the means”. In MC the hero isn’t an action figure, like a… Read more »

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Dinodoxy
1 year ago

Same story with superheroes.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 year ago

Comic book superheroes were Jevvish Esoteric Messaging; a brilliant innovation, they taught American boys to read, while shaping our moral sensibilities.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

Comics were yet another one of the angles they used to undermine the transmission and preservation of traditional faith and history in America.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

Just so. And not all that esoteric either: Superman is an alien of a superior species, disguised as a human and working in media – like all superheroes. The fact that he’s wearing a spandex playsuit in garish colors is purely incidental.

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Dinodoxy
1 year ago

Yes. Perfect! The entire project from the first voyage across the Atlantic into the unknown was a civilizational effort. It was hard men, from the aristocratic elite to the last man woman and child settler, it was a great people who were determined, intelligent and hardened.

This is why when they tear down Columbus, they are tearing down the entire civilization that was required to fund, engineer, plan and undertake voyage after voyage after voyage.

Great comment!

p
p
Reply to  RealityRules
1 year ago

Isn’t it interesting that now that they can afford it or have the skills, not a single descendant of former American slaves has decided to sail back to Africa? Or even visit?

Hun
Hun
Reply to  p
1 year ago

Stevie Wonder wanted to move to Ghana. Probably because he couldn’t see what a shithole country it was. However, once he visited, he could smell it and decided to stay living in the racist US instead.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  p
1 year ago

Stokley Carmichael moved back to Africa. Too bad the rest of them didn’t follow suit.

Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  Dinodoxy
1 year ago

Original “Magnificent Seven” was believable in that it was about Mexicans terrorized by cartels (although the cartels freeing the captured gunslingers was a huge plot hole). Remake with Denzel Washington was awful: a bunch of hard-bitten, Civil War veteran miners in the mountains would’ve put up with that sh*t?

NateG
NateG
Reply to  Dinodoxy
1 year ago

I think the ‘High Plains Drifter’ type movies were supposed to represent people being attacked during pogroms. In the real old west, everyone had a gun and the townspeople would make short work of a band of armed criminals.

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  Dinodoxy
1 year ago

Agree with you however I think a great movie in that mold was Shane. Shane is a mysterious stranger who rides in and saves the day. He is a reformed gunfighter faced with the moral dilemma that the only way finally to defeat the evil is to meet violence with violence.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Tom K
1 year ago

Certainly, but Shane never went rogue. He was a virtuous hero defending friends/family against evil. Shane gave the bad guys a fair match/chance in a gunfight—certainly more than any of them gave the innocent farmer they killed. Interesting memory of the book. The use of a firearm is defended and was never resorted to until the ultimate provocation of murder of the innocent needed to be addressed. You know the book was *required* reading in my Humanities intro class as a Freshman. Of course, the book was very short, sort of a novella and took little more than an evening… Read more »

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

I’m glad you mentioned that dimension. Shane was a man of high standards who didn’t play dirty. He won fair and square. That’s one of the things I like most about it. Of course, this is a question we struggle with today. Conservatives have lost every battle of the last fifty years because they played “by the rules.”

Let’s remember that Shane was a fictional character who embodies the best of heritage American conduct but the real world is a lot messier, a lot more ambiguous in its ethical certainties..

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Dinodoxy
1 year ago

Along those lines I remember reading an article by someone declaring that High Noon was a terrible slur on Americans because of the cowardice of the townspeople forcing the sheriff to stand alone, and I thought and still think he made a good argument.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Dinodoxy
1 year ago

“t’s pure messiah saving the shtetl fantasy ”

Do you have any example of a Yiddish play or novel with that plot?

Mid-century sounds like “Shane”. The director/author was German but not so far as I know Jewish. Feel free to enlighten me,

Cg2
Cg2
1 year ago

Well I’d have to watch it by myself. Wifey would have nothing to do with that. Liked D Hoffman in Marathon Man.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  Cg2
1 year ago

I’m in agreement with your wife…Not ever going to watch it, it’s disgusting…

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  pyrrhus
1 year ago

Right, I’d find it disgusting as well. But when I saw it, I liked the movie. That folks basically sums up my life’s path to this group. Unfortunately, you do the math. It takes a long time to wake up from the myth/dream.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Cg2
1 year ago

Whew! Talk about propaganda.
All those survivors in the diamond district, were they missing their gold teeth?

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

Most of the gold teeth extractions were from dead people. Easier that way.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Cg2
1 year ago

“Marathon Man” was the ultimate Jewish nightmare put on the screen so that the rest of us could “feel their pain.” Gak!!

Mike
Mike
Reply to  Epaminondas
1 year ago

I especially enjoyed the old Jew road rage at the beginning of the movie. The old bastard ended up killing himself and the Nazi. He just couldn’t let it go.

Cg2
Cg2
Reply to  Mike
1 year ago

It was the halcyon days of the US government aligned with (ex)nazties

370H55V I/me/mine
370H55V I/me/mine
1 year ago

You should mention that Jon Voight today is one of the most outspoken conservatives in Hollywood.

Drive-By Shooter
Drive-By Shooter
Reply to  370H55V I/me/mine
1 year ago

Oh, ya, he’s a white, male, cuckservatard all right. It’s a true American cowboy for all retards to admire.

“Let me read something for you,” he [Voight] said. “Israel, I love you.”

https://cmsedit.cbn.com/cbnnews/entertainment/2023/october/let-my-people-go-actor-jon-voight-turns-to-scripture-amid-hamas-holocaust

So many white Amerigolems, so little time to study them all. LOL.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Voight#Early_life_and_education

Brewmeistr
Brewmeistr
Member
1 year ago

Z
Good luck on the domicile search.
Make sure you have at least a couple of acres so we can visit and sharpen your CCW skills on the new pistol range out back.

Cold home brews afterwards.
Then we all fade into the brush.

Hun
Hun
1 year ago

Semi-related: I recently watched the 1964 French movie “L’ Homme de Rio” (That Man From Rio) with Belmondo. I used to love that movie when I was a kid, but now all I could see was the propaganda. There was a scene in a Brazilian favela full of poor black people. It was portrayed as a place that was safe for a lonely young White woman, because the inhabitants were all magical happy black people listening to cheery music and dancing and giving helpful tips. The main villain was white, of course.

Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  Hun
1 year ago

Check out the Brazilian movie “Cidade de Deus” which depicts the black favela unflatteringly.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Jannie
1 year ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCFZt926ufg

and tio get this posted: not spam not spam

Mike
Mike
Reply to  Hun
1 year ago

I saw that when I was a kid and liked it then, it was pretty funny. Saw it again a couple years ago, it was a lot less funny then and the favela scene was pretty unrealistic with what I know now.

Hun
Hun
1 year ago

Midnight Cowboy seems like an awful movie. I am glad that I never watched it.

Btw, the movie was directed by John Schlesinger. I am sure he didn’t hate himself, but he definitely hated Whites.

Hoagie
Hoagie
Reply to  Hun
1 year ago

I tried to watch midnight cowboy twice and I couldn’t get past the first 10 minutes. I guess it’s just not my kind of movie.