Mis & Dis Information

The relatively recent obsession by our rulers over misinformation and disinformation is not without merit. The ruling class of every democratic political order must concern itself with what their subjects think because the logic of the system says the subjects should act on what they think is true. Even with their limited power in the political process, they can create a lot of trouble if they think the wrong things.

Compounding it is the fact that managerialism encourages lying. As everyone who has worked in a large company knows, the primary goal of managers is to shift the blame and appropriate the credit. In good times, they talk about themselves as leaders, while in bad times they are the victims. Managers love committees and meetings as it furthers the two goals of blame shifting and credit appropriation.

This may also explain the obsession with narrative. People under investigation by the police have the habit of creating stories to explain their innocence, on the assumption that if it is a good story the cops will accept it. This is why cops are trained to poke holes in the story as a way to break the suspect. Our rulers seem to operate from the same mindset and always communicate in narratives.

Like the guilty, who come to believe their own stories about their innocence, our rulers come to believe their own version of things, even future things. When you combine the extreme paranoia about what everyone believes with their ideological desires, the result is a managerial culture in which narrative crowds out reality. Anything that contradicts the narrative is a threat to themselves and their sense of reality.


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This Week’s Show

Contents

  • Disinformation and Misinformation
  • Snake Oil Salesman
  • Official Lies
  • The information Age
  • The Ruling Class Problem
  • Managerial Paranoia
  • The Managerial Process

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Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
7 months ago

Wikipedia changed the early life on Abramovic, which said she’s Jewish on November 4, 2016 and changed it to Serbian. (unable to link the wiki page, says it’s “spam,” unfortunately.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Wolf Barney
7 months ago

I meant that to go as a reply further down.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
7 months ago

I reverse;

I saw a comment musing whether Hamas set the trap, putting out the bait.

Just now, on WRSA Escobar says Russia and Iran set the trap!

A war of attrition, against a hollowed out giant to follow…

Using the Frankists own beliefs against them?
(“…entering the Frankist- nihilistic phase (Jacob Frank), where all norms that used to bind society to coherence are rejected to bring about the end times as soon as possible.”)

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
7 months ago

Who was it here who said,

“gambling for the very highest of stakes?”

With dice! Heh.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
7 months ago

You are unintelligible.

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
7 months ago

Super OT

I had to share, as when I came across this incident, I laughed out loud.

Per Heyjackass.com, 15 people (and folks), were shot this morning at 1:00AM, at Roosevelt and Pulaski in Chimpcongo, one of the many armpits in the city.

The number of individuals actually kilt?

None.

Ghettofabulous shooting at its finest!

Intelligent Dasein
Intelligent Dasein
Member
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
7 months ago

There’s a difference between shooting to kill and shooting to shoot. Ghetto drivebys are a performative display, not a military operation.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
7 months ago

Fired into a crowd. 2 in critical condition.

James Alex Fields Jr. only managed to kill one. I guess Whites are ineffective drivers.

https://nypost.com/2023/10/29/news/at-least-15-people-shot-2-critically-in-chicago/

cg2
cg2
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
7 months ago

9mms held sidewise gangsta style!
Its all good, we can pay to fix them all up good as new!
Everybody here donating pure unvaxxed blood as often as you can?

Hokkoda
Member
7 months ago

The problem with the current mid/dis/mal information crusade is that the conspiracy theorists are on a 5 year winning streak. Among other things, the CT’s have been proven right about… – Clinton’s emails – Ed Snowden really was on to something – the Russia investigation was a hoax to overthrow Trump – Ukraine impeachment was a cover up for Biden taking bribes – COVID originating in a lab in China – and Anthony Fauci paid for it – and the vaccine has deadly side effects and doesn’t work – illegals really are about demographic replacement – Hunters laptop was real,… Read more »

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
7 months ago

Off Topic: David Cole gives his view of the proper response of the dissident right to the Israel-Palestine conflict. As usual, his main theme is that the dissident right sabotages itself when it criticizes the ch0s3n. https://www.takimag.com/article/white-knighting-for-middle-east-unsalvageables/ His argument is that if you support Hamas in the Middle East, then you are morally obligated to support blacks and Amerindians in the USA, because all are failed peoples. Further, if you want to cut foreign aid to Israel, then you are obligated to spend that money on reparations for blacks. He says: “And if you’re a rightist who’s obsessed with defending… Read more »

BigJimSportCamper
BigJimSportCamper
Reply to  LineInTheSand
7 months ago

Cole IS a Chosenite. I don’t give a great bloody damn what he has to say.

george 1
george 1
Reply to  LineInTheSand
7 months ago

So if I do not support Hamas then can I support the genocide of blacks and amerindians?

To know who rules over you, just find out who you cannot criticize.

https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/151/658/871/playable/11f9a95052434641.mp4

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  LineInTheSand
7 months ago

This seems to be a fairly consistent method of attack the juice are using against dissidents who don’t support their genocide. The thing they miss is the fact that the dissident right has consistently stated that brown people indeed have a right to exist in their own parts of the world, as opposed to the strawman the enemy has of us where we want to perform sadistic medical experiments on anyone who isn’t a 6’5″ blonde superman. Observe how the Jews alter their messaging to try and sucker every faction into being on their side. They sidle up to the… Read more »

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  LineInTheSand
7 months ago

I missed Cole’s heel turn. Oh well. Let’s be flattered that someone’s been assigned to be the Ben Shapiro to our “libs.” NAZI HYPOCRITES LOGICKED OUT OF EXISTENCE BY NAGGING SISSY

(That Taki columnist roster at the bottom of the page is…a hell of a thing.)

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  LineInTheSand
7 months ago

“As usual, his main theme is that the dissident right sabotages itself when it criticizes the ch0s3n” Nope. His main theme is that the Palestinians need to accept that they lost the war and get on with improving their lives. Whether or not to criticize Israel is never mentioned. The only domestic Jew mentioned is a judge who hired a Palestinian clerk, now a rich lawyer who refused comment on her transition away from being a college Pali activist. No Israeli Jews get a mention either. “His argument is that if you support Hamas in the Middle East, then you… Read more »

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Gandydancer
7 months ago

After “…betters” I left out the sentence noting that Cole was saying that getting excited over Pali and not BLM claims was inconsistent.

Ploppy
Ploppy
7 months ago

Having the “right kind” of protein is a thing in the sense that you want the ratio of amino acids consumed to be the same as the ratio in the tissue you’re trying to repair and build. The thing is all animal protein is perfectly sufficient in that regard, it’s only a problem for vegans trying to get protein from their potato chips and snacky cakes.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
7 months ago

Gonna say out loud what you’re all thinking:

1. The Gaza op was a neocon Pearl Harbor to kickstart war with Iran

(Bibi’s in with the Kagan cult)

2. All these friendly military-age male immigrants are the setting of the stage for Part Two: Blowback

(they’ll take BLM’s place in future election seasons…forever

This will be called “public-private capitalism”, aka democracy)

george 1
george 1
Reply to  Alzaebo
7 months ago

Yes. Most of the American public will fall for it again. If we survive, in a few years it will be more than obvious this was a set up. The reason Israel was chosen as the springboard this time is that it still tugs at the heart strings of stupid Americans. They couldn’t get anyone to care about their wars anyplace else at this point. My guess would be that Iran after joining BRICS will quickly become a much greater power. In their new economic alliance they would become immune to the West’s sanctions. So they want to prevent that… Read more »

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
7 months ago

That’s idiotic. The Hamas “fighters” aren’t neocons nor directed by neocons. You are a loon.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
7 months ago

Did the Shah plan on accepting something other than dollars in payment for oil? Or has the 40 years of sanctions and bomb-bomb-Iran not been working, because the ayatollahs have been doing that all along? Betraying those who placed them there, in other words. If so, then the Ukraine gambit has strained US finances enough we’ve finally got to pull the trigger and rope the ayatollahs in, before the BRICS start breaking away en masse. My conjecture, if correct, would mean the neocon bankers are operating under what has become a traditional belief in their class; that is, that they… Read more »

george 1
george 1
Reply to  Alzaebo
7 months ago

That is about the size of it. Iran by joining BRICS as well as their geographic location means they will be impervious to their sanctions. If Iran is destroyed it will also mean that Russia is more boxed in and will not have access to the Gulf via Iran.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  george 1
7 months ago

How does Iran selling oil for dollars betrayi “those (who?) who placed them there”?

Why does Russia need access to the Gulf?

What are you on?

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Alzaebo
7 months ago

It seems the neocon bankers fear they can’t afford to let up. While Russia and China probably fear they can’t afford to let Iran fall. So they’re playing nuclear chicken, both sides believing they have to win. Seems we’re in a bit of a fix

P S Alzaebo, you seem to be on a bit of a roll, great comments 🙂

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
7 months ago

What? No, no. Simba, sir, you are far too kind.

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Alzaebo
7 months ago

Right now, there’s an yuge thread at /pol/, here in the wee hours of Saturday morning, East Coast time, wherein israhe11is in Gaza are looking at a mess akin to Ukraine [which is a mess akin to Verdun, which is a mess akin to Gettysburg, etc etc etc].

https://tinyurl.com/mdacrfey

Lots of talk of introducing chemical/biological warfare.

But what’s fascinating is all the j00ish guys poasting on a neo-n@zi board.

The JIDF must be panicking.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Bourbon
7 months ago

I don’t know how to…reddit? chan? whatever that is…so thank you for that link.

Holy Schmidt.
First thing I see is this:

“25 dead soldiers including part of elite units.
Multiple vehicles completely destroyed.
They couldn’t even reach the first small village… or the first street.
Destroyed by the buffer zone.”

Damn. Just after my new friend Ari and I were talking about the situation.
(I got invited to the big rave festival. They want me to be the old guy on the stage…Ha! Since I have a beard like Abraham now! Of course I have to go.)

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Alzaebo
7 months ago

Alzaebo, /pol/ always starts with a “temporary” thread at 4chan, then that temporary thread vanishes, and you have to go over to 4plebs for the permanent archive of the thread. You can only poast on the original “temporary” thread at 4chan, but that poasting is then permanently archived at 4plebs. Note that there is a slight variance in the URL syntax at 4chan versus 4plebs. TEMPORARY: https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/446677407/ PERMANENT: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/446677407/ Also, in order to poast on a temporary thread, you’ll need to go to a convenience store, purchase with [untraceable] cash a VISA gift card, in the amount of maybe $25… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
7 months ago

The managerial class cares about “disinformation” because they are the purveyors of it and they don’t want anything true to spread among the proles. If something is true, but interferes with or contradicts “the narrative,” it’s disinformation. Think about all the media taken off of different parts of the internet because they told the truth about a specific subject, like race and table 43. They even discontinued table 43 because it’s racist and gives people the false impression that a certain group of people is responsible for 52% of the murders. Snopes has become a meme. Murders in South Africa… Read more »

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
7 months ago

Tars Tarkas: “The top tiers of the media are so good at lying and spreading disinformation that they can lie without telling any easily verifiable lies. This is largely accomplished through framing, narrative and sources.” The glue which holds it all together is the Hive Mind of the Passive Aggressive Industrial Complex. Passive Aggressives are born with an innate sense of what the Hive Mind requires of them, and understand instinctually the role they are required to perform at any particular moment in time, and during any particular crisis which threatens the Hive Mind. You can’t analyze Managerialism or the… Read more »

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Bourbon
7 months ago

Talking about Mis- and Dis- Information coming from the Managerialist Class, Cabal, the Deep State, whatever you wanna call it, this is an absolutely perfect example of the Passive Aggressive Hive Mind at work in Klownworld: Chains are using theft to mask other issues, report says https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4192935/posts ‘Across the country, the “actual increase in rates of theft” at stores does not “correspond to the increase in company commentary and actions” on theft, according to a new report by retail analysts at William Blair.’ At this point in the decline of our society, it’s so cynically predictable that it’s rather hilarious… Read more »

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Bourbon
7 months ago

Why the useless link? Here is the article:

https://www.wisn.com/article/chains-are-using-theft-to-mask-other-issues-report-says/45669682

Look to me like apologia for the Woke only allowing police to give out tickets for shoplifting, if they respond at all, and I don’t believe for a second the claiom that this has no effect on shoplifting rates. You’re believing CNN now?

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Gandydancer
7 months ago

Sorry, I wish I had had the chance to reply to you earlier in the day [you’ll probably never see my reply here], but the point is not that kneegr0wz are not thieves – everyone knows that kneegr0wz are thieves – and that “shrink” [kneegr0w theft] is a very real phenomenon. The point is that the Passive Aggressives [typically j00ish retailers] are using kneegr0w theft to cover up all sorts Passive Aggressive behavior on their own part, such as stealing from their own businesses, and then dumping the ostensible losses on the backs of the goyische insurance companies. [Have you… Read more »

miforest
miforest
7 months ago

They do things like this just to get the press they want to cover their actions .
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/23311886.2023.2269685

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
7 months ago

I don’t know about comet pizza, but Pizzagate had at least some truth to it. The Spirit cooking woman (Marina Abramović.) is VERY real and her “art” is very real. I can’t remember the source, but I just recently saw video of a spirit cooking party. All of it is around sexuality of children and other perversions (life sized cakes of dead humans among the party favor paraphernalia.). She really was/is hosting “spirit cooking parties” for top democrats (it came to light from their emails planning them). Just search her name and art. What a coincidence, the elite just happen… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
7 months ago

I don’t view those people with complete suspicion. I view them with complete horror.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
7 months ago

An overlooked characteristic of real psychos, “sexual sadist serial killers” and such, is that outside their criminal specialties, which are deeply motivated and *true*, their performance of transgression is corny and theatrical. Manson’s forehead swastika comes to mind. Everyone understands, even if they lie about it, that he wasn’t a nazi. He wasn’t intellectually capable of understanding what one was. But he was an instinctive one-on-one intimidator who knew that carving their logo between his eyes would make him look like trouble—trouble as seen on TV. Or Ted Bundy. In real life, high in the mountain woods, in the absolute… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Hemid
7 months ago

All very good points. I often point out that they are both evil and ridiculous at the same time.

It’s like they figured out how to pretend being human by watching a bunch of bad B-movies.

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
7 months ago

Apparently (((Marina Abramović))) is so powerful an high priestess that she’s able to have her “Early Life” removed from Wikipedia.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Bourbon
7 months ago

Dunno where you get that idea.

Wikipedia:”Early life, education and teaching
Abramović was born in Belgrade, Serbia, then part of Yugoslavia, on November 30, 1946…. Her great-uncle was Varnava, Serbian Patriarch of the Serbian Orthodox Church.[7][8] … Abramović was raised by her grandparents until she was six years old.[10] Her grandmother was deeply religious and Abramović “spent [her] childhood in a church following [her] grandmother’s rituals—candles in the morning, the priest coming for different occasions”.[10] ”

That’s “church” and “Patriarch”/”priest”, not “synagogue” and “rabbi”.

Your impulse to find a Jew under every bed clowns you.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Gandydancer
7 months ago

Wikipedia changed the early life on Abramovic, which said she’s Jewish on November 4, 2016 and changed it to Serbian. (unable to link the wiki page, says it’s “spam,” unfortunately.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
7 months ago

What do you do when the people running the system are the criminals? If I wrote what I thought reading about the elite sexualizing kids, I’d sound like a nutjob or a fed poster. May they burn in hell

miforest
miforest
7 months ago

this is a look at our elites planning for us . the guy whose channel this is on is a little rough looking , but the video is worth it . it’s short too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z1rcGFxGBg
they don’t seem too worried about what we think.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  miforest
7 months ago

Uh, the dude has 1.18 million subscribers.

He must be doing something right.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  miforest
7 months ago

It is remarkable what they’re saying openly. More than half of Canada’s cabinet belongs to this murky situation?? That sounds extremely important to me. But not to MSM I guess. Now this might be squirrels going nuts in my head but the WEF is so open that they sometimes seem like they must be either a decoy or a place to float insane globalist ideas. Who’s more in control, Klaus Schwab or Larry Fink? And who calls them to an interview without coffee? The real power relations are really opaque. Mapping them would be interesting but probably impossible from open… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
7 months ago

It’s very clear that Klaus (and whoever is handling him) wants him to be seen. Factor in that the MSM pretty well ignores him but he’s all over “dissident” media, and then consider that “dissident” media is to a great extent just as controlled as other media, and you can infer that “they” want dissidents to see him. Kind of like how “they” want dissidents to see it when the old geezer in Utah gets killed, or the tiki torch marchers get prosecuted, two other stories that were all over “dissident” media but the MSM mostly ignored. Many more examples.… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
7 months ago

The vast majority of information in the public square, at least the “official” public square is either misinformation or disinformation. It’s not just political stuff either. It is every single subject under the sun that gets discussed in the public square. Now today, large amounts of what is presented as news is just flat out made up. Doesn’t exist at all. Many of the news sites I visit have “stories” on the page that are presented as stories that will be of interest to the reader of the story you are reading. But, in fine print that you have to… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
7 months ago

“The problem is, the press decided a long time ago that the purpose of the press was not to inform, but to persuade the public When you view your job to persuade the public of something, you become an advocate. Advocates are not bound by facts and do not want you to draw your own conclusions about anything.”

Sub academia for the press and it’s equally true.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
7 months ago

“This is a danger to our democracy”

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
7 months ago

Sounds to me like they switched one narrative in midstream, then dropped it to be picked up later (reaffirming their righteousness.)

So was the Lewiston *cough* false flag *cough* mass shooter a white supremacist or a muslim terrorist?

miforest
miforest
Reply to  Alzaebo
7 months ago
Tom K
Tom K
7 months ago

Comet Pizza: The most interesting thing about that buzz was how vigorously it was suppressed by the MSM. I’ve never followed Mike Cernovich. In fact, I always have to look him up after you mention him to be sure who he is. But I maintain that from what I could gather, there was something there. There are people who really got into that particular “tinfoil hat” theorizing and after a while my standard reply was, ‘Yes, but you’ll never know the real story. It will all be contained.’ I remember that bimbo blonde Megan Kelly interviewed I think it was… Read more »

Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Tom K
7 months ago

Yeah there seemed to be a vigorous effort to cast the conspiracy to the pizza place rather than the fact that they were discussing child porn and jut using Comet Pizza as code. When parsing those Leon Panetta emails an effort has to be made to read anything else into them.

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  Tom K
7 months ago

That owner, Alefantis, (I remember his name being something like this because of its resemblance to Enfant) instagram archive is completely packed with referenced to horrific innuendo. Then you read those Podesta emails. Read the emails about Dominos on cheese, the Pizza related napkin, the Beanie Baby ones, etc., and tell me that those circle don’t traffic kids. Just look up the artwork Molesta decorates his house with. Then one starts going down the rabbit hole, where you read of such things as the Seekers and their CIA connections. Horrific stuff. This country is rotten to its core. Couple this… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Eloi
7 months ago

yeah, well, but because Comet Ping Pong Pizza doesn’t have a basement, that’s all debunked

Guest
Guest
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
7 months ago

Except that Comet Pizza does, in fact, have a basement. Alefantis is on record in a news article from a year or two before the story broke that they store their fresh ingredients in a cooled store room in the basement of the shop.

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
7 months ago

Where did I say they had a basement? I said the guy is a pedo, and he is associated with other pedo’s. This is an inductive argument, and, therefore, you are fallaciously reasoning that one point, discredited, discredits all other observations. You ever examine their logo?!

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Eloi
7 months ago

(Mr. Zoar was being sarcastic)

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Eloi
7 months ago

I congratulate you for successfully tuning out the MSM. It’s not easy to do. Back when, believe it or not, they actually did address “pizzagate,” that was their response. They said pizzagate was a “conspiracy theory” relating to government officials meeting in the basement of Comet Ping Pong Pizza to engage in pedophilia. So they went and checked, and found that the place had no basement. Case closed!

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
7 months ago

I was thinking about the last sentence too as I asked myself, “why do we accept metaphysical premises, just as we do moral axioms?” (For instance, who says that the creator of Life, must also be the creator of everything else? Plasmas? Protons? Nuclear fusion? Aluminium? Rocks? Why must all physical constants have originated at the same time, can’t they accrete, like notes added to a developing symphony? etc.) The thing is, yes, history was recorded accurately- so it could be revised. The revisionists then accept the revised version as real history, and base their moral assumptions on the new… Read more »

Disruptor
Disruptor
Reply to  Alzaebo
7 months ago

Jews say. In their scrolls they proclaim themselves the gatekeepers of god. As Norm McDonald might say: What a coincidence! As it is handed down to us, their god is going to get us unless we appease it, and we have to believe their scrolls in order to appease it. In the first creation story, gen 1:1 into 2:2, the earth surrounded by water is already in existence. But it/they create light. The spirit blowing over the surface of the water opens up the space over the earth as an underwater snow globe, puts the sun, animals, and stuff into… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Disruptor
7 months ago

Thanks, I should’ve said meta axioms, moral premises- For example, “God must be all-powerful or he can’t exist” is a made up axiom like “racism is bad”. An unexamined core assumption, such as the beliefs of the managerial class. It strikes me as the mindset of the sages: their concepts are limited, simple acceptance, like a child understanding the rules of his nursery, but unable to consider a modern industrial civilization outside the front door. Or of your illustration, the scientific view of desert primitives living in tents. This is the elder race from whom we receive all wisdom? A… Read more »

panzernutter
panzernutter
7 months ago

I noticed Russell Brand is back on all the platforms he was supposed to be banished from. I can’t stand him and don’t have the stomach to actually see if he explains on his show. Memory hole’d ? Why ?

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  panzernutter
7 months ago

Brand was demonetized on YouTube.

That doesn’t really affect him near to medium-term because he probably has at least high six figures, maybe low seven, of funds and assets tucked away.

I find him grating, but he’s getting a lot of topics you never see in the MSM in front of his 6 or 7 million subscribers.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
7 months ago

Watching clips I save under the heading “charisma”, Brand is like Trump- a master of Drunken Monkey kung fu.

Guys who study interpersonal relations use Brand clips to illustrate how he intuitively steers interviews and liberals like a pro.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
7 months ago

Speaking of narrative, our esteemed Citizen of a’Silly wanted to know more about the War of 1812. Well, folks, here’s a little tale that begins: No, It Wasn’t The Stamp Act (the tax on tea). Surprises abound, including: The War of 1812 Arsenic on cherries 38 dead at the President’s dinner Greenbacks at 30% Tsar Alexander’s assassination The Titanic was insured… U.S. Notes destroyed Nixon’s Environmental Protection Act And much more! A tidy little package of easy listening, please begin at the 8:50 mark. (approx. 17 quickly moving minutes for a barrage of rhyming history) This is small factoids we… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
7 months ago

I think they made a rap song about this: “It’s All About the Dead Presidents”

Pozymandias
Reply to  Alzaebo
7 months ago

C.R.E.A.M. — Cash Rules Everything Around Me. Another rap classic from Wu Tang Klan. Yes, I know rap is garbage but those ghetto apes sometimes laid down some truth too.

RealityRules
RealityRules
7 months ago

I was reading up on the Oded Yinon Plan. If only we could go back to a time where people were honest about acknowledging that the word is made up of factions vying for influence, power, dominance, paths to ascension … … I found the Israel Greatness article by Prager that I mentioned yesterday. It truly is an astounding read. He takes the mask off here. From the dopey Droopy guy with the funny dog in front of the fireplace to a vicious supremacist. I don’t know if the people who organized the surprise attack a few weeks ago intended… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  RealityRules
7 months ago

Along with Kunstler ready to exercise the Sampson Option- not mentioning, of course, that the Dimona nukes are pointed only at White capitols, none at his Islamic Semite brethren (they too are seeds of Abraham.)

Damn you Aryans!
You made us do it!
You didn’t love us enough!

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Alzaebo
7 months ago

Ja, I think he really shit the bed here, a la Praeger’s little rant. It had the immediate effect on me of making me wonder if all of his dooming may have been a deliberate corollary to the WEF efforts to put the kibosh on industrial civilization. Maybe not, but I won’t look at his output in the same way going forward.

Pozymandias
Reply to  RealityRules
7 months ago

It *is* curious how many supposed dissidents have popped up to join the kill-the-arabs chorus. There are two substackers, Jordan Schachtel and Alex Berenson, that I subscribed to during the Coof madness. When it comes to Coof they’re quite solid but both are now devoting every other update to the 6 trillion Jews Hamas killed a few weeks ago in the border raid and how we need TOTAL JIHAD to avenge them. I’d say the Pals did us all a favor by getting so many popular “edgy” types to make a big (and revealing) show of bowing and praying to… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Pozymandias
7 months ago

Heh. “…bowing and praying to Tel Aviv 5 times a day.”

Mohammed originally DID pray in the direction of Tel Aviv (Jerusalem) 5 times a day!

Until…the elders of the Medina rejected his demand that they recognize him as an authentic Old Testament prophet.

Then he told his followers to turn the other way, and bow instead to Mecca.

Now, why would an Arab pagan…demand that the Jevvish elders of the Jevvish quarter accept him as a Jevvish prophet?

(Shortly after that, his gang began murdering people who insulted him.)

WCiv911
WCiv911
Reply to  RealityRules
7 months ago

Prager had a point, although not the one he thinks. It does appear that the Jews have been singled out, chosen. But. Then the question arises, chosen for what? Any cursory review of Jewish history would show that they would have been much better off if they were not chosen. How many times has their God chosen them for special treatment? Smited on this cheek then the other. Massacres, famines, droughts, kicked out of Eden, drowned out after 40 days & 40 nights of heavy rain, Sodom & Gomorrah, wandering about for 40 years in search of their Promised Land…and… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
7 months ago

“People under investigation by the police have the habit of creating stories to explain their innocence, on the assumption that if it is a good story the cops will accept it.”

Cops love when people do this. It makes their job so much easier. Many, many people have talked their way right into prison when the cops had nothing on them. Almost nobody invokes their sacred rights to just shut up and make the cops figure it all out without your help. They just cannot help themselves. Even people who absolutely should know better. Even lawyers. Even jailbirds.

mikeski
Member
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
7 months ago

I was an Assistant DA for 6 and a half years.

Never – NEVER – talk to the cops. Be polite if you can, always civil, and ask if you are under arrest.

If not, get up and leave. If so, ask to speak to your/an attorney. Nothing more, and don’t sign anything.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  mikeski
7 months ago

I never pass up a chance to post this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
7 months ago

Yup.

In order, the police officer’s priorities are: muh salary, muh pension, and muh department.

Their number one goal is finding the next perp and getting them into the legal system to extract that perp’s wealth as well as generate all kinds of transactional fees in the process of extracting that perp’s wealth in service of funding their compensation.

This also helps justify increased wealth extraction from the relevant tax herd under the guise of, “public safety.”

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
7 months ago

I remember when my local police drove by with a massive armored vehicle with the phrase “This vehicle was paid for with funds acquired through civil asset forfeiture.” painted on it. They were proud. It was about this time I realized maybe these aren’t the good guys.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Chet Rollins
7 months ago

Another Reagan win!

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
7 months ago

We have de facto laws in the US, especially around money. There is no black letter law against carrying money in the US, but it is de facto illegal. Cops rob people on the side of the road and in airports. There was just a big story about how the cops in Atlanta were waiting until the people were just about to board (domestic) flight and then searching people. They said this was “voluntary” despite threatening anyone who said no with dogs and delays. Any cash they find, they just steal. A couple of years ago, the cops actually robbed… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
7 months ago

It depends. If you are under suspicion of, or being questioned in relation to, a “conventional” crime, then yes, by all means, shut up. But if you are in the dock for being a “MAGA white supremacist domestic extremist” then it doesn’t matter what you do or don’t say, you are going down. However, being a “MAGA white nationalist/supremacist extremist” has not (yet) become a crime under the US code, or any state code (I don’t think), so they have to find some other justification, which, once they have gone so far as to find one, they most certainly will… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
7 months ago

Write me from prison and let me know how its going. At least with regular crime, you’ll be dealing with state level police who will most likely record the conversation both audio and video. There won’t be “confusion” about what you said. The FBI, OTOH, will not ever under any circumstances agree to be recorded. There is a case where the FBI agent was interviewing a cop who had his bodycam on. The FBI agent went ballistic and ordered him to shut it off. Then, the cop arrested the agent and put him in the back of the cop car… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
7 months ago

Now, Martha had the audacity to say she was innocent!

That obstructed their investigation. That was the charge she was imprisoned for.

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
7 months ago

I hear it’s even a felony to record them surreptitiously 🙂

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Tom K
7 months ago

It’s the spirit cookers you’re not allowed to record superstitiously.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Tom K
7 months ago

It is a federal felony to record any government agent without their consent. They will never give it. Thing is, it’s not a strict liability crime (a strict liability crime is one where intent is irrelevant.). If you have a doorbell that always records and you have a conversation with the fbi at your front door, it’s not a crime and it is admissible. But since this has happened a few times, they ask now. If you lie and say “Why, no officer, I don’t have a recording device on this porch,” you’re back to being a felon. If you… Read more »

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Tom K
7 months ago

Huh? Since when is it a felony to record any government agent?

In fact, almost every circuit court has now ruled that one does have the right, subject to time, place, manner restrictions, to record government employees. And that includes FBI agents who come to your door.

As mentioned above, I wouldn’t volunteer any information and would politely dismiss them from my presence, but the fellow in this video handles them with Jedi-like brilliance.

https://youtu.be/DwHuEqKcSOA?si=6CElkNpBsb7AKb5C&t=321

Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
7 months ago

We’re at the “show me the man I’ll show you the crime” phase of GAE “criminal justice”

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
7 months ago

No, that’s the “I’m too smart to get convicted” syndrome. Never talk to the police. Period

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
7 months ago

“Almost nobody invokes their sacred rights to just shut up and make the cops figure it all out without your help.” An ex-LEO I know quite well has a philosophy that seems appropriate here: ‘Criminals are mostly stupid, it’s the smart ones we don’t catch’. Here in AZ, the law specifically requires that *if* you state: “I wish to have a lawyer, before answering any questions.”—at *any* time in the process—the police have to stop asking you questions. Even further, to encourage such “good” behavior on the part of the police, anything you say after that request is not admissible… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Compsci
7 months ago

Sure, criminals are likely below average in intelligence. But that really doesn’t explain what’s going on. Not to mention there are plenty of high IQ people in prison. The problem is, they ask open ended questions. You don’t know what they know and what they don’t know. They won’t stop you no matter how absurd your lies are. In fact, the more absurd your lies are, the happier they are to just let you talk. The rules about asserting your rights are not as cut and dry as you think. There was a case a couple of years ago where… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
7 months ago

Like I said. If low IQ and Black with Black impulsivities, you are likely to not be able to “shut up”. Hell, if you could control your emotions, you’d not be in the police station answering questions in the first place. The deck is stacked against you, but perhaps less by society than Mother Nature. 😉 In any event, stupid people are most likely to incriminate themselves, Black or White. High IQ people, or the “smart ones” are less likely to wind up in such positions. No one said there were no high IQ people in jail, only that it… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Compsci
7 months ago

High IQ successful people usually don’t commit crimes or don’t get caught, except really bad ones, like murder. Most completely underestimate the capabilities of the police. I know of some bombing cases where the perp was caught by tool marks, battery lot numbers or wire chemistry (the jacket). Don’t get me wrong, I do agree with most of what you are saying. My point is that intelligence isn’t that great a defense. People get emotional and do stupid things like killing their spouse or sending bombs. Look at the unibomber. He got done in by his writing style (his brother… Read more »

Dutch Boy
Dutch Boy
7 months ago

Our overlords have been obsessed with controlling information for decades (e.g., Operation Mockingbird) and that obsession has deepened since Trump’s election. I was impressed with the sheer number of intelligence operatives Twitter employed prior to Musk’s takeover. It was proof positive that our overlords consider controlling the flow of information as critical to their power.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
7 months ago

You probably are too generous here. Yes, the People in Charge have the right to be concerned about falsehoods that threaten their narratives. They also are concerned that their own falsehoods might be endangered. Yes, the NPC’s really do believe the nonsense they are told to believe. They also want to believe the nonsense enough to wave off obvious truth. Same as it ever was, to quote. The only thing that has changed is the relatively new technology threatens the Ruling Class’s monopoly on the narrative. Every bit of the squawking about misinformation, disinformation, and mal-information is a desperate plea… Read more »

Ivan
Ivan
7 months ago

“As everyone who has worked in a large company knows, the primary goal of managers is to shift the blame and appropriate the credit.”

I always said the goal of management was to keep their/our job; not get clipped in the latest round of “reorganization.” Same difference though!

What amazed me was the mediocrity at the C level. Nardelli is an excellent example; he wrecked Chrysler then moves on to Homo Depot. It’s a revolving door with these people.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  thezman
7 months ago

Really not much different than what I observed in the academy. Seems top level administrators (not academics) filled positions for 5 years or so, before the rank and file caught wise to their incompetence and they moved along. Rarely heard of one that “quit” a position without an accompanying announcement of their new positions at another university. Always the same verbiage regarding the “new” opportunities and challenge of the position taken at this new university. Academic administrators could and did fall back on their tenured status in some department or another, but often after a few years moved on as… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Compsci
7 months ago

And it’s all paid for by borrowed money at interest by our children. The academy is evil.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
7 months ago

The academy is no more evil than what we make it. Unfortunately, parents often are ill informed wrt the “product” they are paying for. So they, or rather their children, are in essence defrauded. One needs to note that for a few generations after WWII, a college degree was a very unique experience. Even I, of age to attend in the 70’s, was the first in my family to attend post secondary education—let alone graduate school. My family had no idea of what was involved, just that I had attained some “special” status—“my son, the Doctor” meme. And, given the… Read more »

mmack
mmack
Reply to  Ivan
7 months ago

Nardelli is an excellent example; he wrecked Chrysler then moves on to Homo Depot.

Even though I currently own a Mopar product, I assure you Ivan Chrysler Corporation has shown a long history of wrecking itself no matter who sits in the CEO chair.

The 2 1/2 of the Big 3.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  mmack
7 months ago

Chrysler problems are American workers (IMO). No foreign owner has been able to make a nickel on the company. It’s the hot potato of the industry—and I’ve bought three (Jeep’s).

mmack
mmack
Reply to  Compsci
7 months ago

To borrow a phrase from Peter DeLorenzo at Autoextremist.com, ChryCo has from time to time always been a “giant steaming bowl of Not Good”. – Bad Engineering – Cheapening out on parts – Questionable styling (Google “1961 Plymouth” or “Chrysler Airflow” and come back to me) – Surly and/or lazy workers – Outdated plants They ride the rollercoaster of rising up to profitability, taking their eye off the ball, and plunging into loss, and as we’ve seen, near bankruptcy or actual bankruptcy. At least they smartened up and will offer the next Gen Charger with an internal combustion engine. 👍… Read more »

Steve
Steve
Reply to  mmack
7 months ago

MOPAR doesn’t stand for My Old Pig Ain’t Running for nothing.

Filthie
Filthie
Member
7 months ago

Ahhhhhh. What a great lecture, Z. This is one of the reasons I love this site. Getting to the heart of any matter is dependent on being ruthlessly objective with yourself as well as others. My super power as an aging stubfart griller and normie-con is my ability to self correct, and change my opinions. It’s one I share with you and most of the bums here in the comments. We can look at anything and instead of forming instant opinions and preconceptions. What seperates us from them is the ability to fact check. I learned to do that from… Read more »

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Filthie
7 months ago

“The problem today is not that lies propagate at the speed of light, it’s that the truth does too”

This. The truth also cannot be suppressed as it once was.

As for Cernovich, anyone who would buy anything from that weird-looking, speech-impaired creep actually does need a brain pill that truly works.

370H55V I/me/mine
370H55V I/me/mine
7 months ago

Yeaaah, that’s it! That’s the ticket!

ghio
ghio
7 months ago

That stupid word “narrative” burst onto the scene 5 years ago and seems to be the only dumb thing anyone talks about. It’s the same as propaganda, lies and bullshit. Ideology if we are being generous. Anybody who peddles in fake storytelling instead of reality is an awful, terrible person. Which is why I work in solitude away form most idiotic managers who still dream of being and playing the exact role of harry potter, luke skywalker or who the hell ever was popular in the those awful marvel movies.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  ghio
7 months ago

Narrative is velleity. Those who craft narratives are projecting what they wish was reality or what they hope reality will become. Narrative is not usually totally divorced from reality (there must be some degree of plausibility for it to function effectively), but the relationship to it is usually quite tenuous. Propaganda, lies and bullshit? Substantially, yes. But the narrators have genuine faith in their own bullshit.

Alex
Alex
7 months ago

Hope the house hunt went well…

Milestone D
Milestone D
Reply to  Alex
7 months ago

You beat me to it … I was about to post “report status of West Virginia house hunting.”

mmack
mmack
Reply to  Milestone D
7 months ago

I thought it was Montana. 🤔

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  mmack
7 months ago

Movin’ to Montana soon

Gonna be a dental floss tycoon

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Alzaebo
7 months ago

Don’t forget the pygmy pony…

mmack
mmack
Reply to  Alex
7 months ago

“Bagged three houses, winged another. 👍” – Z

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Alex
7 months ago

Just the other day I spotted a very cozy fixer-upper shotgun shack for sale down on the Cahulawassee. Far from the teeming shores of Lagos, and banjo included.

mmack
mmack
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
7 months ago

So you’re saying that Z may find himself living in a shotgun shack?

And Z may find himself in another part of the world?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  mmack
7 months ago

But I don’t see Z behind the wheel of a large automobile…

Oswald Spengler
Oswald Spengler
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
7 months ago

This is not Z’s beautiful house…this is not Z’s beautiful wife.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
7 months ago

Where is his beautiful house?

Where is his beautiful wife?

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
7 months ago

OH DAMMIT I JUST BLEW THE LYRICS

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  mmack
7 months ago

Well, how did I get here?

Oswald Spengler
Oswald Spengler
Reply to  JerseyJeffersonian
7 months ago

https://genius.com/Talking-heads-once-in-a-lifetime-lyrics

In this song, producer Brian Eno and Talking Heads frontman David Byrne are at the apogee of whatever it is they do (Byrne claims he was just riffing on some Southern preacher).

This song is about being unafraid of the passage of time.

Byrne gave his take on this song to NPR:
“We’re largely unconscious. You know, we operate half awake or on autopilot and end up, whatever, with a house and family and job and everything else. We haven’t really stopped to ask ourselves, ‘How did I get here?’”

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  JerseyJeffersonian
7 months ago

Thanks, Mr. Spengler, I always am fascinated by this kind of backstory.

mmack
mmack
Reply to  JerseyJeffersonian
7 months ago

https://youtu.be/rqtTINkDH64?si=D2hPoUH-Dj1ruUz8

Same as it ever was! 🤦‍♂️
Same!
As!
It!
Ever!
WAS! 🤦‍♂️