The Story Of The Neocons

It may not seem like it at the moment, but it is a good chance that we are witnessing the twilight of the neocons. For half a century they have dominated the conservative movement and the Republican Party. They ran both into the ground in the Bush years and then abandoned ship when Trump came along. They found a purchase in the Biden administration, but that will not be long lived.

At some point, the sober minded in both parties will come to see the neocons as a cancer that must be removed as a matter of survival. That and it is clear the neocon subculture is lacking in talent. The second generation has proven to be quite stupid, and the next generation makes Ocasio-Cortez look like a scholar. It is shirt sleeves to shirt sleeves in three generations for the neocons.

Even so, it is important to understand how this deranged cult of people managed to gain so much power in the 20th century. Lots of people have grand ideas about where to go from here, but none of them can be taken seriously unless they incorporate an understanding for how we got here. There are important lessons for contemporary politics in the story of the neocons.

That is the show this week. It is a primer on the events that made the environment that spawned the neoconservative movement and how this collection of neurotic losers managed to rise to the top of the political order. Neoconservatism is a uniquely American phenomenon that speaks to the uniquely American problems we will face in the demographic age.


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This Week’s Show

Contents

  • Intro
  • Two Jews
  • Pale of Settlement
  • American Radicalism
  • The Birth Of The Neocon
  • The End Of History

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Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
18 days ago

the sober minded in both parties…… Unfortunately I recognize no such factions. Lest I occasionally “forget” or be distracted, last night I received two strong messages that I live in what is now the Evil Empire. The first was watching Tucker Carlson’s interview with Tara Reade https://youtu.be/8SwvBVKwBHo?si=v5s72-1RVmjhO06u The second was reading the text of the letter from the 12 RINO senators to the ICC. “Target Israel and we will target you…. You have been warned.” Now I have seen my share of sternly worded letters, but I have never seen a group of GOPers get so worked up in writing… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
18 days ago

To have lived to see American dissidents forced to seek political asylum in Moscow is…quite something.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Jack Dobson
18 days ago

It used to be quite a thing. Lee Harvey Oswald was the most famous, but he was one of a million “reverse defectors” who flocked to the USSR until destalinizatsiya rendered Russia’s communism too not real for Western leftists. The revolution was a takeover of Russia by the West—the first neocon war?—and the Russians were always slowly undoing it. But even the early Soviets didn’t treat commie asylum-seekers well, because true believers have no value after the revolution—as Trotsky learned, pointedly. Anglo rightists mistaking Putin’s Russia for a home will meet a similar fate. “Exiled American shitposter dies of natural… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Hemid
18 days ago

The earlier defectors to Russia did so for ideological reasons. These do it to escape prosecution for political crimes (Snowden, Reade, so forth). There might have been incidences of this earlier but I cannot recall them.

Agree about Anglo Rightist defections to contemporary Russia for ideological reasons, though. While he has no tolerance for sexual perverts, he’s pretty much a SJW on radical equalitarianism.

Whitney
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
18 days ago

I really wish Daniel Penny would go to a Russian embassy and request asylum

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Whitney
18 days ago

That would be awesome.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
18 days ago

“An attack on Israel is an attack on US sovereignty.”

This is madness.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  ProZNoV
18 days ago

Only a matter of time, I spose, before Israel annexes the BFE. It’s already an appendage of Israel in all but formality.

Pozymandias
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
18 days ago

I like your BFE (Blackberry Fruitcake Empire) thing but you should spell out the acronym more often for the noobs. Speaking of which – has Z or anyone posted a glossary of all the sarcastic in-jokes we use here? I admit even I’m sometimes baffled by a new bit of jargon. Tubman D.F. puzzled me at first until my Spanglish kicked in.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Pozymandias
18 days ago

AINO (America in Name Only)
TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome)
BoM (Bad Orange Man)
Mustache Man (Hitler)
MIC (Military Industrial Complex)
GAE (Global American Empire)

Zfan
Zfan
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
18 days ago

I’m slipping. I thought you were referring to the remote place in Egypt– made sense, though I didn’t think Israel had been making noises about re-occupying the Sinai. Thanks for the clarification!

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
18 days ago

TPTB (The Powers That Be)

Hokkoda
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
18 days ago

Don’t forget LARPing… (Live Action Role Playing)

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
17 days ago

So far, my favorite is been “small hats.” Took me a second to figure that one out.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  ProZNoV
18 days ago

At least they finally said it out in the open

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  ProZNoV
18 days ago

We are an occupied country. It cannot be denied.

But it is denied, by everyone that I know in person.

Due to centuries of evolution in high trust societies, whites are gullible and vulnerable to absolute manipulation by the hegemonic media.

While will not wake up while that media can program them. Sad, but true.

The only solution is tp destroy the hegemonic media. Which is hard to do.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  LineInTheSand
17 days ago

Stop thinking the screen is your interface with God and realize it’s a glorified gossip circle.

Pozymandias
Reply to  ProZNoV
18 days ago

Q: What do you do to escalate from making an attack on Boston?
A: Blow something up in Tel Aviv.

Xman
Xman
Reply to  ProZNoV
18 days ago

The wingnut Lindsey Graham said, verbatim “We’re in a religious war” after the Oct. 7 Hamas attack.

Fucking insane:

US Senator Lindsey Graham on Israel-Palestine war: ‘We’re in a religious war here’ (youtube.com)

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Xman
18 days ago

Who’s this “we’re,” Kemosodomite?

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
18 days ago

Apparently he’s the Senator from Israel… or, perhaps, the Senator from the Israeli-Occupied Territories on the West Bank of the Potomac.

Monty James
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
16 days ago

Kemosodomite.” For that, you are awarded the Neologism Cross.

stranger in a strange land
stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Xman
18 days ago

Well, this is the moron who recently told the Ukes: “best money we ever spent”…as to the killing of Russian soldiers. So, this most recent statement is none to surprising. Small consolation, but lil’ Lindsey is long on talk, short on action.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  stranger in a strange land
17 days ago

Oh, I bet he gets a lot of action from young, male Congressional pages.

Paul Gottfried
Paul Gottfried
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
18 days ago

I agree with most of what you said, but do not like the “RINO” label. Why cannot we call these disgusting politicians just Republicans and the minority not voting with them RINOs?

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Paul Gottfried
18 days ago

It did cross my mind that since the sentiment expressed in the letter is standard republican, rino is no longer applicable. Let it be so. My mistake, for the last time. But any republicans who dissent, i.e. Massie, deserve a better label than that one which is so tarnished.

NIdahoCatholic
NIdahoCatholic
Reply to  Paul Gottfried
18 days ago

Recucklicons. Cucks and Cons. Last syllable pronounced the way it is now.

george 1
george 1
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
18 days ago

TPTB are just thugs at this point and not very good ones. Don Corleone would be a better ruler that any of the criminals currently in charge. He had much better ethical standards and judgement that the neocons.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  george 1
18 days ago

It occurred to me that the letter reads like a mafia shakedown. But at least the mafia cared about their own neighborhoods/people.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  george 1
17 days ago

They’re much worse than mere criminals. Evergreen: “It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” — C.S. Lewis, The Humanitarian Theory of Punishment Although I now think Lewis was giving them too much credit for thinking that “our own good” factors into it at all. They’re purely Satanic. Destruction and degradation for their own… Read more »

Whiskey
Whiskey
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
18 days ago

Defense of Israel and Jews is a White American thing. First, most White Americans take pride in the liberation of the camps in 1945, they were the good guys, and like to view themselves as an action hero in a movie that never ends. This is just who Americans are for better and worse. Second, the Jewish population in the US has been viewed favorably and until recently been very Americana-ish. It was Jews who mostly created the modern Hollywood and mostly created the Comic Book. You don’t get more Americana than Superman and Captain America, or “Yankee Doodle Dandy”… Read more »

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Whiskey
18 days ago

THANK GOD.

VINTAGE WHISKEY.

Whew.

It musta been brutally painful for him to have poasted all the Faux-Whiskey bu11sh!t these last few years.

But with this magnum opus, he has renewed muh faith in him.

Whiskey
Whskey
Whsky
Wky
ykW

You just can’t spell, “WHiskeY” without “YKW”.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Bourbon
16 days ago

Was waiting for this, some nice Heartiste ‘way back machine’ bantz there. 😂😛

NeoSpatran
NeoSpatran
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
17 days ago

From my perspective I was suprised really. Thought the neocons were already long dead. Did see some of the O’ll miss videos but bruh.. that’s like the last vestiges of 90% white society in pockets that will not even exist anymore in 10 years or so. (barely any exist now, Dearborn Michigan etc., America is big, pockets of ignorance and innocnence remain but.. the summer children of media brained remnants who are still… somehow? not aware of what America has become.. I really hope none of them become cannon fodder for ZOG. Summer goy children, grew up in a time… Read more »

Tarl Cabot
Tarl Cabot
18 days ago

The Trotskyites (let’s call them what they are) have shown an incredible ability to adapt, and therefore they should not be underestimated. They may be on the outs with the Democrats, or at least their POC coalition, but they own the GOP with their Christian Zionist proxies, as the events of last week demonstrated. Trump may not be entirely under their control, but they will have significant influence in the unlikely event he wins, both through their control of Congress, and the cryptos who will no doubt burrow into his administration. The reason they keep coming back, after so much… Read more »

Mycale
Mycale
Reply to  Tarl Cabot
18 days ago

The neocons were also able to make a convincing case that their interests aligned with America’s, even if it wasn’t entirely correct. During the Cold War, this is obvious. After 9/11, they were able to successfully rile up anti-Muslim animus and say that we had to “fight them there so they don’t come here.” This really isn’t the case anymore. Maybe a case could have been made in early 2022 that the USA supporting Ukraine was a good idea, but continuing to do so is just madness. This idea that Putin will march on Paris if he wins is just… Read more »

Zorro, the Lesser "Z" Man
Zorro, the Lesser "Z" Man
Reply to  Tarl Cabot
18 days ago

They are backed by kosher finance

I wish more people understood that this is the root of the problem. NONE of the poz, the subversion or the destruction of Western Gentile countries would be possible without banksters. Unfortunately we are like a stage 4 cancer patient. Pray for an EMP.

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Zorro, the Lesser "Z" Man
18 days ago

Pray for an EMP.

Bro, NASA is ackshually forecasting a rather serious EMP for literally tonight.

https://twitter.com/SunWeatherMan/status/1788895213290758201

https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/products/alerts-watches-and-warnings

Hoagie
Hoagie
Reply to  Bourbon
18 days ago

Wow.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Zorro, the Lesser "Z" Man
17 days ago

Taylor and Kersey went off on this tendency for the right (particularly types like Hannity and Bongino) about their exaggeration. Their response to it was absurd, but that is typical of most anymore it seems. Don’t turn banksters into ubermenschen. They can and do finance wars and fuel inflation. But how much power do they really have over your life? Not all that much, unless you you ran up the credit cards or otherwise chose to live a high-time preference lifestyle. So groceries cost you a bit more. God made it possible to have a garden or raise chickens or… Read more »

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Steve
17 days ago

Dagnabbit, I thought I edited that down so it wasn’t a “Read More”…

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
18 days ago

This just shows why it is wrong to open your borders to the world. All these Jews bring their ethnic grudges with them and try to make their ethnic grudge our ethnic grudge, not to mention their ethnic ties to Israel into our ethnic ties with Israel. Why can’t we just have normal diplomatic relations with Israel? Because we brought in all these Jews who love Israel so much they will not live there. What the heck is an “American Zionist?” If you’re a Zionist, WHY do you live in America? Ben Shapiro loves Israel so much he won’t even… Read more »

Redbeard
Redbeard
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
18 days ago

Not to be confused with all the liberal Jews who hate Israel, not to be confused with the Jews who spied for Russia during the first Cold War, not to be confused with the Jews who hate Russia today….bit of an enigma I’d say.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Redbeard
17 days ago

So your defense of Jews is to look at their liberals? Also, they don’t hate Israel. They support Israel. They support the aid. Liberal Jews is why they get aid. Also, I never say “The Jews” I would not say “The Jews” are evil because so many elite Jews are evil just as I would never accuse White people as being evil because so many White elite are evil. But this is also why we should not have allowed them in or after we let them in allow them into the elite. They are not us. It’s not just them.… Read more »

Wiffle
Wiffle
Reply to  Redbeard
16 days ago

None of this is confusing if we treat the Jewish people as a people with a diversified set of personal interests. Hating Russia for collapsing is human nature.

Whiskey
Whiskey
18 days ago

The death of neo-connery (as opposed to Sean Connery who is the second best James Bond, Roger Moore being the best), is largely a function of demographics. There simply are not enough White people to go around, and the White people who do exist are functionally if not already a minority and a despised and hated one at that who don’t create enough free cash to fund neo-connery. So the old hatreds no longer apply: Russians, Communism, etc. in this the Global Age. Nations and the capitalist / communist struggle no longer really exist. Does America still exist? No. Does… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Whiskey
18 days ago

Whiskey you have been killing it this week. You oughtta write a book

But Brosnan was the best Bond, a fact obscured by his getting the crappiest movies in which to display it

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
18 days ago

I prefer George Lazenby. A pity he did only one Bond film, although it was the best ever made. Hippy/dippy fool that he was, he believed that 007 was doomed in the Age of Aquarius, and therefore abandoned ship. He’s regretted it the rest of his life.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
16 days ago

Brosnan and Moore are too prissy. Sean Connery is the best, although maybe not the best fit as Bond was depicted in the books.

cg2
cg2
Reply to  Whiskey
17 days ago

massive expansion of JFK Airport with NO WHITE GUYS allowed

30% goal for MWBE contracts
https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-hochul-announces-jfk-airport-construction-sets-record-mwbe-participation-23-billion

3rd paragraph

Last edited 17 days ago by cg2
Hi-ya!
Hi-ya!
18 days ago

I’m sorry, zs use of the term antisemite is confusing and weird and a turn off. It reminds me of EMJ calling race realists white boys. It’s just derogatory. So we can have Emj and Zman calling each other names forever.

Rod Flugel
Rod Flugel
Reply to  Hi-ya!
18 days ago

This guy gets it.

Paul Gottfried
Paul Gottfried
Reply to  Hi-ya!
18 days ago

Z defines antisemite as those, who pick their nose in public. Wash your hand and you are in Z’s good books again 🙂

Paul Gottfried
Paul Gottfried
18 days ago

 The second generation has proven to be quite stupid, and the next generation makes Ocasio-Cortez look like a scholar.”

It is not just the quality of neocons went down but the quality of Jews went down in general. These days US Universities are filled with Jewish academics, who came there because of accomplishments (and connections) of their parents and grandparents.

China sends six top teams to International maths olympiad (namely China, USA, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Singapore and Canada). Jews – none.

Pozymandias
Reply to  Paul Gottfried
18 days ago

Calculating interest doesn’t require very high level maths. No need for Johnny Nash at the bank.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Pozymandias
18 days ago

I can see clearly now the cash is gone/
I can see all impoverishment in my way/
Gonna be a bright, bright sunshiney day.

Wiffle
Wiffle
Reply to  Pozymandias
16 days ago

It turns out that double entry book keeping was invented by Christians.

Mycale
Mycale
18 days ago

Last year I listened to an interview Glenn Greenwald had with Norman Finkelstein, and Finkelstein discussed how his parents came here after the war, were freed from the concentration camps by the Russian army, and as such felt a lifelong debt and gratitude to Stalin and the Russians. So, is it any surprise that Finkelstein is strongly against the neocon projects? Glenn Greenwald is, too, a Jew who has spent his entire career in journalism fighting the neocons. So yes, the distinction Z makes is extremely important and he provided a very clear and concise overview of this dynamic. Since… Read more »

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Mycale
18 days ago

FWIW, my late mother came here as a semi-refugee in 1952 or thereabouts. (My grandfather was here in 1939 and they were separated by the war.) My mom was as right wing as anybody on these pages, but she didn’t have bad things to say about her communist home country at all. She says her best memories were from the time she was growing up there.

Sgt Pedantry
Sgt Pedantry
Reply to  Mycale
18 days ago

The distinction is only helpful inasmuch as it points to a fault line between different factions to exploit.

If every neocon disappeared tomorrow, we would still have Finkelsteins and Greenwalds.

TempoNick
TempoNick
18 days ago

I just have one bone to pick with you Z. Before you said that Jews have more money because of their superhuman intelligence. Oh, I think they are intelligent enough, but it’s more like an athlete. To make the most out of your God-given intelligence, you train (study). They train their kids, while whites look down on nerds and want their kids to excel in sportsball, and be homecoming king and queen. I think this proves my point that Jews aren’t endowed with superhuman brains. Plus, and I know it’s not polite to say this in our society, but the… Read more »

Zorro, the Lesser "Z" Man
Zorro, the Lesser "Z" Man
Reply to  TempoNick
18 days ago

But we do train our children to be nerds – in fact we train them to be Renaissance Men and excel at everything. We also teach them Truth, Justice and the American Way (TM) which only worked while we were a homogeneous society. We also are the least nepotistic people. After the coming genetic bottleneck, only those of us with extreme ingroup preference and a complete mistrust for outgroups will have passed on genes.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Zorro, the Lesser "Z" Man
18 days ago

Point taken, and maybe in the upper income areas they are serious about schooling, but I went to a middle class high school. Nerds were out of place in that school. Being a jock or a cheerleader was where it was at. I think you also see a lot of this mentality in the people who think you should hold your kid out of college so he can become a welder or something.

Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  TempoNick
17 days ago

I do see this trend among Whites (and not just Whites by any means) where they will throw six figure sums at their kids with mediocre sporting talent in an attempt to make them sportsball stars, rather than finding out what they are good at (engineering? physics? carpentry?) and investing in that.
Also better to have a trade like welding than a useless, expensive degree in Social Africanism & all the commie brainwashing to boot.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  TempoNick
17 days ago

Why are there more male than female roofers? Lumberjacks? Mechanics? Commercial fishers? Why were boards of directors almost exclusively older white males? Self selection explains most of the “disparities” we see. Everywhere.

So is it just remotely possible that whites just do not self-select into careers Jews do? Other than Congress and trailer parks and union top dogs, you just don’t see white guys who aspire to a life of parasitism.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Steve
17 days ago

Then don’t complain about them hoovering up all the money.

I’m agnostic about almost every subject, including the Jews. But I do give them credit when it comes to education. That is the one thing they do very well.

And in their defense, there were plenty of WASP bankster parasites in the old days as well. They just weren’t as brazen as people are today.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  TempoNick
17 days ago

I’m not complaining. I’ve said before that I think the JQ is overhyped. I don’t know of anything I’ve ever set my mind to that Jews have made more than inconvenient. Sometimes I’ve had to pay a little more? Yeah, white liberals make me do that, too.

I’m Zionist because it is self-evident that until (((they))) all leave, the DR will not lift a finger to save their communities. I’m just one guy. There’s only so much I can do by myself.

Curious Monkey
Curious Monkey
18 days ago

From everything I have learned in this side of the aisle I can add my 2c. I am aware there is nothing new here, but a friendly reminder. The way every public figure (politician, pundit, celebrity) rises is a whole Truman show. The neo cons were part of the theater of controlled opposition and so they got invites to every political show and sinecures through think tanks as payment. This way they could show a “debate” with “both sides”, “fair and balanced”. The whole network of think tanks, revolving doors between private and public sector, doors between political and media,… Read more »

Rod Flugel
Rod Flugel
18 days ago

Imagine being on the dissident right and still using the term “antisemite” post 5/1/24.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Rod Flugel
18 days ago

The term is valid. The question is whether it’s an insult or a compliment…

Templar
Templar
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
18 days ago

The term is valid. 

I think it’s a bit misleading (granted, it’s intended to be). Most Jews (at least not the ones that we usually have to deal with) are ethnically Semitic, and the term is rarely if ever used in reference to Arabs.

Cmhi
Cmhi
18 days ago

The sunset of the Neocons without the sunset of the FED, and World Central Bank, preceding it?

How would that be possible?
I bet against your view, for this one time.

Filthie
Filthie
Member
18 days ago

Excellent. One of the things social and political exiles ask themselves upon banishment or cancellation is – “where do I go from here?” I was a normiecon griller for years and maybe a bit of a Neocon. Years agoI ran afoul of that conceited faggot – Vox Day for it. In my defense I was a fat old guy, who spent his time in the liberal hive noticing things. It’s one thing to note those things, and quite another to explain and understand them. I got egged by Vox and his comic book kids and cellar dwellers without really ever… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Filthie
18 days ago

Is it fair to say that Neoconism was what birthed the dissident movement?

Quite fair, and at a minimum it was a major component. Many of the original Paleocons had labored in the shadows earlier but the catastrophic W Regime ramped up enough revulsion to lead to outright dissidence. The same may be happening from the other direction now as the Left realizes who controls the parties it supports.

Maniac
Maniac
18 days ago

The W. Administration is the reason I went third-party a while back. (Constitution.) Neocon termites, all of them.

Xin Loi
Xin Loi
Reply to  Maniac
18 days ago

“The W. Administration is the reason I went third-party a while back”

I voted for Ed Clark in 1980, and for the paranoid dwarf in 1992 AND 1996.

Welcome to the party, pal.

Hokkoda
Member
18 days ago

What is interesting is that the twilight of the neocons may well coincide with the twilight of Lawfare as a political strategy. Not coincidentally, both are largely led by the tribe. Things are coming to a head with these Trump sham cases. Much like the failed neocon mercenary wars, these sham legal maneuvers are unable to withstand much in the way of critical thinking skills. They both mainly rely on threats, intimidation, and appeals to “democracy” or “patriotism”. But repeated failures (Iraq, impeachments, Ukraine, Trump/primaries) shed light on these misadventures. Sunlight is the enemy of both. Ukraine will fold. Republicans… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
18 days ago

We have an absolute ton of “communists” embedded in corporations and particularly in universities in the form of “Chinese-Americans” and Chinese nationals. But because they are a different race, we’re not allowed to notice. Not only do “Chinese Americans” have no loyalty to the US, even if they did, they are often faced with threats to their family still in China. Given how inept we are at fighting them, thank god they aren’t that great themselves, at least so far. If we are ever going to fight the Chinese infiltrators, we will need broad sweeping changes to the culture or… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
18 days ago

China knows well this weak point in our defense and exploits it on a regular basis.”

One could say we have an, ahem, chink in our armor…

stranger in a strange land
stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
18 days ago

Yes, and your slant on the situation is spot on.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  stranger in a strange land
18 days ago

My remark was wontonly rayciss…

Redbeard
Redbeard
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
18 days ago

Gentleman, how rude, reORIENT your thinking.

TomA
TomA
18 days ago

Today the Economist published an article predicting a collapse of the international order and stating that it’s collapse could be sudden and irreversible. That is no trivial bit of contemporary news. Assuming that there may be some modicum of validity to that admonition, how urgent is a history lesson on the origins of the neocons? In other words, what can you do with a knowledge of neocon history that exceeds a potentially serious warning that could effect everyone in their daily lives at the root level, i.e. high inflation at the very least or nuclear Armageddon if all Hell breaks… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  TomA
18 days ago

I remember in the late 80s plenty of nabobs claiming the US and Japan would fight a hot war within 10 years.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
18 days ago

Very true, but we didn’t have $35 trillion of national debt back then. Methinks the probability of things being significantly worse now is irrefutable.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  TomA
18 days ago

I think so, too. However, I don’t think it’s a cast iron certainty it’s all going to blow up within 10 years. Hard to imagine the shitshow going on for more than 15, though.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  TomA
18 days ago

I read it. Not worth linking. Vague generalities. But noteworthy just for the mainstreaming of the collapse narrative, which is everywhere now. Actual or potential expats have to consider the unknown consequences of a collapse of globalism and global trade, re: potentially leaping out of the frying pan and into the fire. I question if it will be the best place, but I am sure AINO won’t be the absolute worst place to weather such a thing. There are a lot of unknown unknowns. It would suck to find yourself in a foreign land with no tribe when things go… Read more »

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Hokkoda
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
18 days ago

I know people who bought into the whole “Belize” fad. That model only works in an American protectorate. We will see a flood of re-pats when things get bad. As long as you’re not in a major US city, if things go sideways, you’ll be reasonably safe.

If the St. George riots didn’t convince people to GTFO of the big cities, I don’t know what will. That’s where the danger is.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Hokkoda
18 days ago

I was thinking more in the sense of hyperinflation, but that is not very predictable either. Switching your life savings to the currency of whatever “developing” country you move to is not exactly a foolproof defense. (Nor are precious metals, although I wasn’t looking to stir up a big discussion on that!)

Pozymandias
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
17 days ago

Stuck in a foreign land with no tribe when things go sideways? This is different from being in the US? Oh I know, you could be in a place like Russia where they actually expect you to speak their language and don’t arrange their whole society around the needs of foreign invaders.

Brandon Laskow
Brandon Laskow
18 days ago

This is completely OT but an unbelievable microcosm of how far down the tubes our society has gone:

GOING VIRAL: Thomas Jefferson University Graduation Announcer Botches Common Names During Ceremony (VIDEO)

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/05/going-viral-thomas-jefferson-university-graduation-announcer-botches

It is becoming more difficult by the day to distinguish real life from satire.

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Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Brandon Laskow
18 days ago

Idiocracy would be a step up.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
18 days ago

In re: pathological antipathy towards Russia: After WWII and the US took over the British Empire, the newfound 3 letter murder/overthrow agencies were staffed with former Eastern Europeans and Russians, particularly Jews. They had a natural dislike for Russians and that has been the culture of the US departments ever since. China? Well, those were staffed by former missionaries to China who generally were sinophiles but thought the Chinese were hopeless peasants. That attitude is only now starting to change. It could just be this though: divide a conquer. Isreal uses us to keep its enemies in disarray; the neocons… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
18 days ago

Maybe it will require a re-listen, but I didn’t catch the specifics of the antipathy toward Russia. The Pale of Settlement/rapey Cossack claims are frequently made, but those really manifested only after the assassination of Tsar Alexander II. The Orthodox Church mirrored the Catholic Church pre-Vatican II in its view of Jews, who seem to have been afforded similar treatment as the Muslims during the Imperial millennia. Is the rage because of the elimination of Trotsky combined with earlier mistreatment, real or perceived? Schiff and other Wall Street titans funded the October Revolution, which would have preceded Trotsky’s pointed demise,… Read more »

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Jack Dobson
18 days ago

That part of it is obvious and I’ve been using this quip for a long time: It’s like their grandparents told them bedtime horror stories about the Ruskies and they inherited their grandparents’ PTSD.

Templar
Templar
Reply to  TempoNick
18 days ago

They’re literally talking about “multi-generational Holocau$t Survivors” now, since all the people who actually lived through WWII will soon no longer be with us.

Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
18 days ago

Bagels have been at daggers drawn with Russians (and Slavs more generally) for far longer than Western Europeans. Primarily because the Russians never allowed their Bagels access to power, as Western and even Islamic medieval and Renaissance courts did, nor were they granted rights as citizens like their Western coreligionists were in the 19th century West. They remained, for far longer in the East, a segregated, powerless, and despised group, and they nursed those hatreds for centuries, until allowed to express them in America, with the encouragement of (mostly Protestant) Europeans and Americans who had their own virulent dislikes of… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Pickle Rick
18 days ago

I’ve never understood the virulent anti-Russian hate (I am not a slav or Russian). When I was young, I just wrote it off as anti-communist rhetoric. But it never really went away. It’s like the anti-Putin hate. It’s just another thing I don’t get, though that one can be partially explained by his putting an end to the looting of Russia post soviet.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
18 days ago

There’s not much in this world that does make sense to the rational mind.

Member
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
18 days ago

Mustache Guy was far from the first, last, or only Western European or American who thought Slavs as a whole, but especially Russians, were untermenschen. That word didn’t apply only to Bagels, though they have worked hard since 1945 to bury that inconvenient truth.

Templar
Templar
Reply to  Pickle Rick
17 days ago

Mustache Guy was far from the first, last, or only Western European or American who thought Slavs as a whole, but especially Russians, were untermenschen.

Are you sure? I’ve heard that repeated a lot but I’m not sure I’ve ever seen any direct quotes from Uncle Adi. 🤔

Member
Reply to  Templar
17 days ago

Yeah, it was part and parcel of MG’s theories of racial hygiene. Contrary to his fanboys, MG gave zero shits about “white” people, beyond Germanic and kindred blood. Slavs were most emphatically not kindred blood.

Here’s proof. The untermenschen pictured are not the hook nosed Bagels, but Slavs.

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
17 days ago

The Russia hate is quite real and I don’t understand it, either. It made sense when the USSR was the avatar of International Communism, but it was a thing both before and afterwards. It was more than just mere empire jockeying, too, especially for the British who regarded the Russians as near-subhuman.

steve w
steve w
Reply to  Jack Dobson
17 days ago

The Russian elites of the nineteenth century regarded their own people as subhuman.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Pickle Rick
17 days ago

Thanks, the East/West Europe distinction definitely is a thing and certainly may account for some of the grievance. Russophobia is especially pronounced among Anglos, possibly due to the early infiltration of Britain.

Wiffle
Wiffle
Reply to  Pickle Rick
16 days ago

We’ve had Bagels here since day 1, mostly of Western European origin. 1890 is the wave of the Eastern European bagels who probably had a centuries old grudge matches with Russia.

It was not an American dislike, but an immigrant dislike. The heritage Americans I know could still barely find Russia on map.

Drive-By Shooter
Drive-By Shooter
18 days ago

Or: At some point, the least sotted in the party may come to see the neocons as a cancer that must be removed from the factions as a matter of survival and establishing a superficial appearance of independence from the bad patriarchy of Zion. The regime excels at keeping out the sober minded, so have low expectations even while demanding adherence to high standards (e.g. unnconditional condemnation of Praises 2:8-9). Sober men don’t believe in America and so can’t faithfully swear an oath to uphold the big Con or the little cons of the “States”. It’s btw that an extremist… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Drive-By Shooter
18 days ago

The Cathey piece is excellent, thanks for the link.

Drive-By Shooter
Drive-By Shooter
Reply to  Jack Dobson
18 days ago

De nada.

I looked him up at the SPLC’s site this morning. There’s a demonology, of course, and I’ve assumed it’s the same guy. “According to an SSPX newsletter, Cathey was ordained in 1979 and went on to teach at the society’s seminary in Ridgefield, Conn.” Two authors, named Wilson and Squire, think that they have the Z man, too, all figured out.

Templar
Templar
Reply to  Drive-By Shooter
18 days ago

Two authors, named Wilson and Squire, think that they have the Z man, too, all figured out.

I’ve posted this before, and recently, but it just seems so very apropos:

They have given us into the hand of new unhappy lords,
Lords without anger or honour, who dare not carry their swords.
They fight by shuffling papers; they have bright dead alien eyes;
They look at our labour and laughter as a tired man looks at flies.

-The Secret People by G. K. Chesterton

stranger in a strange land
stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Templar
18 days ago

Which also reminds me of CS Lewis – Abolition of Man…men without chests

Templar
Templar
Reply to  Drive-By Shooter
18 days ago

He omits important details, presumably because he cannot bear to admit that he and his fathers have been zombies of Zion’s patriarchy for a dozen centuries or longer.

Must be quite the exalted lineage. I can’t imagine there are very many among us these days who can trace their fathers back over “a dozen centuries or longer”…

Drive-By Shooter
Drive-By Shooter
Reply to  Templar
18 days ago

Missing the point, Templar, like not appreciating the unintended irony of the astronauts of Apollo 8 reading the first ten or so verses of Genesis 1 with faith while in orbit around the Moon.

Templar
Templar
Reply to  Drive-By Shooter
18 days ago

Missing the point, Templar

Missing the sarcasm, Shooter.

like not appreciating the unintended irony of the astronauts of Apollo 8 reading the first ten or so verses of Genesis 1 with faith while in orbit around the Moon.

2kewl4church_69XXX has entered the chat.

Drive-By Shooter
Drive-By Shooter
18 days ago

The comment about red diaper babies reminded me of one named David Horowitz, a radical Jew who collaborated with the Black Panthers and other radical factions during the 60’s and early 70’s. He turned “conservative” by the mid to late 80’s and in the 90’s wrote a fascinating book, Radical Son, which delves into his own background and roots prior to the 60’s as well as his trajectory though the New Left and into his later politics. For 36 years he’s run something now called the David Horowitz Freedom Center, though he’s really just another Jewish supremacist. The SPLC calls… Read more »

TempoNick
TempoNick
18 days ago

I was just thinking about something. Trump has the comedic timing of a Borscht Belt comedian. A long time ago, an idea occurred to me. I wondered if all the Jew hate for Trump had to do with the fact that he reminds them too much of … Eastern European/low class Jews? I think you hit on some things in your podcast that makes me think I was on the right track with this.

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NateG
NateG
18 days ago

I think that when push came to shove, the older, German Neocons would side with the POS (Lol! not that, Pale of Settlement) Neocons.How else would these untalented people get so much backing?

The Russians have always owned the POS Neocons, and this is something that eats at them like a cancer. However, the Nuland types are psychotic, and will burn the whole world down with them instead of admitting they were wrong or are inferior to Russians.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  NateG
18 days ago

The revised Holocaust—in its latest revision, mostly the fault of “the Allies” (Britain and America) who let it happen because Whiteness—is the founding myth of a unified diaspora. It made Jewishness a class encompassing all European-descended Jews who aren’t losers. Deplorable weird-hat Republican/Likud merchants are de facto excluded, but not in principle, and not in the breach. The German-American vs. Other-American Jewish war is forgotten. I only learned out about it by not understanding old jokes.

Farm Boy
Farm Boy
14 days ago

The war is over. Iran won.

NIdahoCatholic
NIdahoCatholic
18 days ago

Whilst reading about the apparent treachery of Speaker Johnson, it occurred to me that the Republicans need a more accurate name. Recucklicons seems to fit, because they are both CUCKS and CONS. Last syllable pronounced the way it is now.

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18 days ago

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Maxda
Maxda
18 days ago

The show isn’t working on Rumble.