The Lives Of Others

Since most anyone reading this has been alive, there has been a debate in what is called the right in America, about what to do about the right. Going back to the middle of the last century, the debate is about replacing the opposition to the ruling progressives with something new or reforming the current opposition. Once side thinks the current opposition is too corrupt to be reformed while the other camp thinks a startup has little chance to succeed, so reform is the best course.

If you go back to the early days of the Buckley movement, you find the same sort of debates going on among those members of the “new right.” The Buckley people did not have much of an “old right” to worry about, as it had collapsed in the FDR years, but they had the issue of the existing institutions. Should conservatives seek to create their own institutions or seek to take over existing ones? In the end, it was a mix of both choices that resulted in what is called Conservative Inc.

It is also why there is another debate about what to do with the old right among people trying to form up a new right. The complete failure of conservatism was made clear in the Bush and Obama years to everyone not getting a paycheck from one of the many conservative think tanks and institutions. Paul Gottfried coined the term “alternative right” in this period while commenting on the failure of movement conservatism to conserve anything more than their positions.

Everyone knows what happened to the alternative right, but the sense that something must rise up to replace Conservative Inc is still with us. People like Christopher Rufo, Matt Walsh and Michael Anton, all see themselves in the process of creating a new right for the current age. Amusingly, all of them are linked to nodes of the old right, places like Claremont, Hillsdale and others. Like Dionysus, they hope the new right will be born from the thigh of the old right.

This gets to the impossibility of either approach to creating a new right. On the one hand, you need money to hire writers, thinkers and activists. Raising that money one small donor at a time is hard and unpleasant, at least from the perspective of people who imagine themselves leading the new right. That means going to the people who have lots of cash to spare. Those are the people who fund the old right, which means making an accommodation with the old right.

Of course, if the old right saw a need to reform itself, it would do it, so the reformers coming in to fix things run into a wall of resistance. The donors like the institutions as they are, but they would like a little youthful energy to spruce things up, which is why they invite in the reformers. Like men who spend a long time in prison, the reformers are eventually institutionalized by the entities they seek to reform. Before long they are leading the charge to purge a heretic.

This has been the cycle since the full flowering of the Global American Empire after the Second World War. The opposition to the prevailing progressive orthodoxy, on the one hand, maintains a wall between the establishment and the public, while on the other hand, selectively recruiting some reformers to provide energy and the facade of opposition to the prevailing orthodoxy. Notice how all the members of the current new right sound like exhibits in the Reagan Museum.

It has always been assumed that what makes this system possible and so durable is the money supply. The golden rule says that the men with the gold make the rules, so if the donor class exists as it is, both the progressive orthodoxy and what is allowed to officially oppose it will not change. There is some truth to it, but there is more to it than just money. Even the money men find themselves constrained by a system that they supposedly control.

What has kept this system going is the social aspect of the commentariat. It operates as a subculture, separate from the larger culture. People have noted that Washington operates like a small town, and this is obvious in the commentariat. The people inside depend entirely on the system for their money, reputation, and friendships. It is a lot like how one percent biker clubs operate. You are either completely inside or completely outside the ecosystem. There is no middle ground.

This is why when it comes time to exile a heretic, all of his friends rush forth to condemn the man, often claiming to have never trusted him. On the one hand, they fear being associated with the heretic, but on the other it provides an opportunity to display their fidelity to the subculture. Like Brutus stoically standing by as his sons are executed for their participation in the Tarquinian conspiracy, members of the commentariat heap recriminations on former friends sent into exile.

As a result, everyone is always looking around for cues about what is currently acceptable within the system. When your livelihood depends on toeing the line at the office, you can think about getting a new job. When your social standing, friendships and family relations depend upon toeing the line within the political ecosystem of the commentariat, you can think of nothing but toeing the line. Everyone inside the system, even the donors, are terrified of being exiled.

This helps explain why our commentariat sounds so weird and alien. Our chattering classes are like the courtiers who live their lives walled up inside the king’s palace, talking amongst themselves. Everyone they know thinks the same things, says the same things and cares about the same things. Most important, they fear the same thing, which is the outer dark of exile. The result is a political commentariat that is isolated from the reality of the general public.

This model of the chattering class applies to the regime media, which is itself a subculture cut off from the general public. This model also applies to the managerial class, which now functions as a separate society, with its own economics, culture and morality, sitting atop the larger society. The thread that runs through all these subcultures among the Cloud People is fear of being expelled and having to live with John the Savage and the rest of the Dirt People.


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G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
1 month ago

The fear of being exiled from their comfy surroundings to McDonalds as a fry cook, which is probably part of what bothers them about Trump, he actually puts himself in the shoes of working people, not only at McDonalds but he was known to mingle with the staff all his business life.

Alan Schmidt
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
1 month ago

So many of these rich and affluent people are living paycheck to paycheck. These are people with 15k monthly mortgages who would literally be homeless within a couple of months if they lost their position. Seeing Trump work McDonald’s gives them existential dread it could happen to them.

3g4me
3g4me
1 month ago

It boils down to simple choice: You either commit to rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, or you abandon ship. The first choice provides the illusion of gradual progress, papering over the gaping holes in the hull. The second is, to most, terrifying – confronting the powerful reality of the world and one’s ultimate inability to effect change in almost anything other than one’s own choices. “But the lifeboats are flimsy compared to the ship.” “But the water is freezing.” “But we might not make it.” News flash, folks: Everything dies. Every choice in life involves some risk or… Read more »

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

Bingo. You’re raising the central issue of our age and generation. We worked hard to pile up all this stuff. But the ship is sinking. The band is playing and the drinks are flowing. We should do something and we don’t. I know I am to blame here and it’s depressing.

Zulu Juliet
Zulu Juliet
Reply to  Captain Willard
1 month ago

No doubt about it; The ship is going down. But I reckon it won’t go under until I have passed. Why jump into that cold water? These chairs are comfy.

As long as those Haitians in steerage stay below decks.

ray
ray
Reply to  Captain Willard
1 month ago

Well at least you know. That’s the beginning for all of us.

Filthie
Filthie
Member
Reply to  Captain Willard
1 month ago

Nonsense! up here in Alberta in the 80s the oil bust was in full swing. Youth unemployment was 37% here… worse for us kids than it was for our grandparents in the dirty 30s. It was a really bad time for a teens like me and the girlfriend to confront an unplanned pregnancy and a shotgun wedding. Not gonna lie – it was AWFUL. But… we all got by. Families pulled together, we had to think about money and stretch it till it squealed, but it was the old nickel: hard times create good people. It also culls the bad… Read more »

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Filthie
1 month ago

unlike my parents I learned how to save, prep, and think in the long lessons

Now if you had those lessons beforehand, you would have kept it zipped. Sorry, I couldn’t resist. 😂

Xman
Xman
Reply to  TempoNick
1 month ago

He made another white Canadian, I think that’s a positive thing, considering how many pajeets and pakis they’ve let into the place.

Brandon Laskow
Brandon Laskow
Reply to  Xman
1 month ago

Except that the white Canadian turned out to be a lesbian left wing nutjob.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Filthie
1 month ago

Reform is impossible at this stage, so something bad is going to have to happen to kickstart whatever great replacement that’s coming our way..

fakeemail
fakeemail
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

So. . .you’re saying my funko pop and comic collection is worthless?!

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

“Abandoning ship” seems to suggest expatriation, but unfortunately nothing is that simple. If one is fleeing from an impending “collapse,” it’s not as if the effects of a collapse of AINO would be contained to its geographical borders, or the collapse of the GAE contained to its. There would be chaos all over, both financial and physical, the latter emanating from the former. If the dollar goes belly up in any short time frame, then so does most every other currency on earth. But the good news is, I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance.

ray
ray
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 month ago

Other nations already are abandoning (de-valuing) the dollar. The country in which I live has been tanking the dollar the past 3 years. Been going on since America signaled it wasn’t a serious country anymore (the Plandemic hysteria).

TomA
TomA
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

Solzhenitsyn said it best. If, when the jackboots showed up at your door at 3:00 am to take you away, instead of acquiescing peacefully, you greeted then with a loaded shotgun; each individual would indeed have made a tangible difference. But we can do better than that ultimate sacrifice, we can arise from the shadows before the knock on the door ever occurs, and act with focus and resolve aimed at the root of the problem. And if done with crafty intelligence, live to repeat and repeat and repeat until Tyranny takes its last breath. That kind of resistance is… Read more »

ray
ray
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

I know it doesn’t look like it, but in reality it’s a spiritual war. Always has been. America is the chief battleground on the planet right now.

You want to win, you fight with spiritual weapons (beginning with Scripture) and seek to please God and ‘lay up future treasures’. Does that mean your own life will be easy and you personally will see immediate benefits? Nupe. That’s why faith is the key.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  ray
1 month ago

Ray, since I see the world in terms of warring tribes (and my white tribe refuses to acknowledge that a war is being fought), I wonder about the role of race in the spiritual war that you describe.

Is God displeased if one race of Christians does not want Christians of another race in their lands? Is that the prerogative of a Christian nation or should devotion to Christ be like a passport into all Christian lands?

Horace
Horace
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 month ago

Historically, it never has been. Cultural choices like religion and choice of 2nd language appear to be (not perfectly, but) highly correlated with ethnicity. Germans and French have been foraying back and forth over the Rhine for at least 2 millennium, from back when the ancestors of the French were Gauls and ‘Ger-men’ was the Gallic word for ‘men from over the river (Rhine)’. They fought before either were Christian. They fought when they were both Christian. Now that neither is substantively Christian … they have common enemies now, but if globalism and Islam are expelled, I expect that they… Read more »

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Horace
1 month ago

There is no civilization that cannot be improved with Christianization, with accepting Christ’s message, but actual real-world institutional implementation within a civilization (Christianity become an embedded part of an ethnoculture) is on a case by case basis only.”

Thanks for the direct talk.

I don’t find Christ’s message personally compelling, with all respect to your belief, but I would be proud to serve such a country.

ray
ray
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 month ago

LITS — I can tell you that the Kingdom of Heaven is racially diverse. That’s about the only place that national race-mixing seems to work, though. I guess it kinda worked during the centuries that the Mooslims occupied Spain. I dunno for sure, I wasn’t there. I won’t presume to tell you how God ‘feels’, but I can tell you He is nationalistic and strongly opposed the inter-marriage of the Hebrew tribes with women from neighboring nations. Obviously because of spiritual pollution, a la Solomon and his many pagan wives. How much the ‘racial’ factor applied, I dunno. I am… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 month ago

Because Scripture gives them a simulation of roots and tribe, just as social media gives us a simulation of tribe.

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David Davenport
David Davenport
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 month ago

“Is that the prerogative of a Christian nation or should devotion to Christ be like a passport into all Christian lands?”

So you agree that Muslims should NOT be allowed into North America?

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  David Davenport
1 month ago

Maybe you have me confused with somebody else. OF COURSE, there should be not an Arab or Muslim in North America, barring some sort of existential emergency.

Last edited 1 month ago by LineInTheSand
3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  ray
1 month ago

My husband now uses a simple metric when evaluating policies and people. He mentally assesses and asks “Whom do you serve?” Ultimately, what will be the result of this individual’s policies and actions? “By their fruits ye shall know them.”

kerdasi amaq
kerdasi amaq
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

Indeed. Although, they had better not lie to their employers.

Filthie
Filthie
Member
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

Ahhhhhh.

Spectacular. As usual the comments are as good as the original poast! You don’t see that in many places these days and it should remind us – tough times are ahead… but there ARE people that can think, are resourceful and will rise to whatever challenges confront us. I know it’s much easier said than done… but cleaning house in Washington and Ottawa is all it would take to get things back on track.

The American people have a choice – get guys like Trump and Elon to fix it – or Darwin and Murphy will.

Greg Nikolic
Reply to  Filthie
1 month ago

The number one attribute required to change things is willpower. Hitler recognized this early on in his career. His problem was that, once he made a decision, he resolved to stick with it no matter what. He would think deeply on an issue, see it from all sides — then commit. This led to disaster on the Eastern Front. Once he was embroiled in conflict against the Russians, he couldn’t bring himself to withdraw his forces to Fortress Germany. Willpower — linked with flexibility — is the way to go, I think. Make up your mind but be prepared to… Read more »

Severian
1 month ago

That’s one huge structural advantage the Left has always had — they’re sneaky bastards. Meaning, they attract the kind of people who are willing to go deep cover in an institution — their ideology actually valorizes eating as many buckets of crap as you need to in order to maintain your cover (come The Revolution, comrade, you shall have your reward, which is your revenge). The Right (for rhetorical convenience) doesn’t have too many of that kind of person, if any — you have to somehow enjoy the degradation of being a sneak in order to do it well. If… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Severian
1 month ago

Great comment. Having lived around political people from both sides in DC back in the day, I couldn’t agree more. The liberal whites (which included a fair amount of Jews) saw this a battle to the death and were willing to dedicate their lives to the cause.

The people on the right saw it as a debate.

There was no contest or doubt on who would win.

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Even if it was a debate, we would still lose. It would be like a communist and a capitalist “debating” in front of an audience made up of communists. The capitalist cannot win. The “left” doesn’t win arguments because they have the better arguments and facts. They win because their views have been propagandized to people all of their lives starting when they were a toddler. As soon as the communist audience recognize even a subtle hint of capitalism in the arguments, his conditioning kicks in. He doesn’t think you are wrong, he thinks you are evil and want to… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 month ago

The Right has no clue what game is being played or how hard the other side will play to win. It’s only the Right’s own weakness that keeps them around. They are useful for the Left – for now. The Left needs whites to continue to believe that there’s an opposition party. Once we’ve moved past that, the Left will take them out.

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

CoaSC. Good day to you. What we call “The Right”, is not in any way right. The entirety of all political actors, that is people within positions of power and influence who can move power in some direction, are Leftist. They buy in to the entire project of progress. History is linear. You are either moving forward or backward. Its measures translate to this central tenant. The line on the economic metric is going up or down. If it is going up, progress is being made. If it is going down, there is the anti-Christ! Regression! This is the real… Read more »

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KGB
KGB
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 month ago

Z-Man often quips that this or that carny from the media should be tarred and feathered or exiled to Haiti. But it’s not a joke. That’s exactly what needs to happen in order for the dam to burst. The gatekeepers of today’s information have to be purged wholesale, examples made of many of them, and tight restrictions placed on their successors until the population gets their heads straight.

Morals are something to sort out after victory, and victory will take a few decades to process.

crabe-tambour
crabe-tambour
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 month ago

“He” has been the pronoun of record, but “She” may be more on point. The ladies seem to be motivated by patholoigal sentimentality (e.g, “anti-racism) and derangement (e.g., abortion, Trump) than committment to ideology. Of course, both sexes view us as evil and hope for our deaths.

fakeemail
fakeemail
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

and after the people on the Right plea that they just want a friendly debate, the Left replies, “stop genociding me!”

ray
ray
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Yeah I commented yesterday about this. A vast difference in level-of-commitment between the bloc-Left and the scattered Right. Most of the Progs live their politics. Righties don’t.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Severian
1 month ago

Sure, there’s some subterfuge on the Left, but even more important is naivete on the Right. For instance, academia in the 70s was composed mainly of ordinary liberals along with a considerable leavening of Buckleyite conservatives. Both of those groups, albeit somewhat contemptible in their own ways, did at least believe in honor, fair play, open debate, and intellectual pluralism. Enter the New Left, which came of age 1962 through 1969, and began pursuing academic positions ca. 1970. New Leftists were nothing like liberals, let alone conservatives. They didn’t merely want a seat at the table, they wanted to smash… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

Ostei: The ‘victory’ of the New Leftists exposed not simply the naivete of the libs and cucks of the time. It exposed the basic weakness and lies that were foundational to the system itself: Egalitarianism and globalism. Oh, I know what Washington warned about, and that many of the Founders were deists, but underlying it all was the fallacy of ‘mankind’ and the misinterpretation of Scripture to believe that sharing one putative faith meant sharing one land and civilization and values. African and Asian Christianity is not the same as European Christianity. The Tower of Babel was destroyed for a… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

The donors and, occasionally, the darker agents of the donor/Deep State organizations are the key. They decide who is allowed into the managerial class and its commentariat. They decide the boundaries, the rewards and the punishment.

Rufo throwing Brunet under the bus is an example. Steve Sailer being allowed out of the shadows in the wake of Oct. 7 is another. There is no right. There are just donors and various organizations controlling the what the rubes think is the Right and Left.

Jack Dodsen
Jack Dodsen
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Ideology is giving way to tribalism, so expect manipulation of the rubes to adapt a strategy that corresponds. We very well may see “hello, fellow white people!” super-sized, contra the current wave of repression, as a direct result. You can kind of see that now if you squint hard enough.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Jack Dodsen
1 month ago

Exactly. The Age of Ideology has given way to the Age of Demographics but whites are mentally still stuck in the former. A white rube thinks that Rufo crushing Harvard’s Gay or Sailer being allowed to be interviewed is a victory for their ideology over the ideology of identity politics. They’re not. It’s just that Jews decided that they needed to inject some colorblind civic nationalism into the system since identity politics was starting to look bad for them. Presumably, other groups, like the Indians, will start pushing various ideas that benefit them, but those ideas can change on a… Read more »

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

That tweet makes me see red. Whites are pathologically gullible.

Tarl Cabot
Tarl Cabot
Reply to  Jack Dodsen
1 month ago

As a last ditch, modified limited hangout, after the Trump Restoration (if it occurs) Con Inc may let us speak somewhat more honestly about the problems of blacks (other nons less so), although I suspect they will draw the line at genetics.

The ultimate taboo, of course, the one the got Brunet axed, will still be taboo, maybe even more so.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Tarl Cabot
1 month ago

Jews always have to walk a fine line. Promote multi-everythingism but not allowing whites to join the party. They also pretend to be white (to whites but not to non-whites) while having endless Jewish organizations and lobbies. As whites become a minority, this will become harder. You can already see that happening. Oct. 7 pushed the Jewish elite to back off the identity politics as Jews were singled out by non-whites, something they hate more than anything. Naturally, the Jewish response was over the top. Subtle, they are not. They’re having a harder time keeping their non-white pets in order,… Read more »

Tarl Cabot
Tarl Cabot
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

I agree that long term, Israeli influence is waning. To the extent that it is tied to Israeli interests, so is Jewish influence generally. Even Ben Shapiro admits as much. Somewhat ironically, a Trump restoration (probably) would temporarily arrest that decline. Trump 2 would presumably give Israel free rein to pursue regime change war with Iran. Israel hopes that victory would make it a regional hegemon that could dictate the terms of a general peace to its neighbors. With Israel secure, and no longer as dependent on American support, diaspora Jews could then focus on their common interest with the… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Tarl Cabot
1 month ago

Yes. Yes. This. Betrayal is their name. Cyrus of Persia destroyed their benefactors in New Babylon, who had given them a position in the capital itself. Cyrus himself was memorialized as the Redeemer for whom they waited, the King returned, the Messiah motif that the Christians adopted. Thus, they are driven to try to betray Persia to loud uluations of adoration, and replace her as hegemon with themselves. This their agents in the State Department did with the good and great Shah, once he sought to break away from Semitic Arab dominance and reexert historic Persian sway. The Shah was… Read more »

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Jack Dodsen
Jack Dodsen
Reply to  Tarl Cabot
1 month ago

The ultimate taboo will be more protected, of course, but it will be really hard to maintain in place over the long haul. You don’t hear much effusive talk about Our Greatest Ally from the cucks running on Trump’s coattails, to cite some proof (Trump can’t stop talking about OGA, to be clear). Granted, I don’t follow that BS very closely any longer and it could be as bad as ever, but what little I sample is bereft of the usual nonstop platitudes. Gaza really has had a deep effect, and uncucked white males seem to be coming around to… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Citizen: But oh, they are reveling in their supposed rehabilitation. Sailer may acknowledge racial differences in IQ, but he is a civnat par excellence. He sees a mixed nation of similarly high-minded people as his future paradise. After all, he’s being invited to speak again. He’s in DC. He believes his ‘truth’ has triumphed. There’s just the minor detail of his never having challenged the Jews, and his supposition that he may, himself, be part Jewish. Like most people, he believes he’s essentially a ‘good’ person unfairly defamed, and now he’s reaping his long-delayed reward. I find it very self-celebratory… Read more »

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
1 month ago

Nothing is going to change materially in the political establishment until America weakens so much that the very existence of many Americans is threatened…could be WWIII, the destruction of the dollar, or roving gangs of illegals doing their thing…And at that point, your skin color will be your uniform…

Gideon
Gideon
Reply to  pyrrhus
1 month ago

America as we knew it saw the arrival of Irish in the 1850s with their big-city corruption. The rest of the country, from Main Street to rural America, carried on with politics as usual. The Italians and Jews near the end of the century brought organized crime and social subversion; but the WASP elite hung on through much of the 20th century. The assimilation of these groups brought us to the point of our politics today. With a majority of American school-age children now non-white, what will our future polity look like? I’d say Brazil if we’re lucky, South Africa… Read more »

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
1 month ago

The irony is that as the fighting ramps up, the scope for corrective action decreases dramatically. If Trump’s first term proved anything, it was this. The debt is just massive and nobody seriously proposes to do anything about it. Trump might tone down foreign policy and fire a few bureaucrats, assuming the crooked Federal judges let him, but that’s about it. Like the Whigs of old, the new Right is largely fighting a rear-guard battle with the massive forces of Government grown out of control. On the social front, we have a generation of women (and weak men) who are… Read more »

Jack Dodsen
Jack Dodsen
Reply to  Captain Willard
1 month ago

Futility likely will pave the way for a form of “Right” nihilism.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Captain Willard
1 month ago

Captain: As I’ve said before, I don’t want a seat at the current table (speaking rhetorically, of course – I personally don’t want to lead or even represent anything). The table has been gnaws by deranged and dysgenic termites and rests on a foundation of sand. I want to overturn that table along with the foundational lies.

Horace
Horace
1 month ago

“Even the money men find themselves constrained by a system that they supposedly control.” This points to the differences between ‘power’ and ‘authority’ and ‘legitimacy’. Power, in a political rather than engineering context, is the ability to get other people to do what you want when they would not do so without your exercise of it. It comes in two varieties, persuasion and coercion. Authority is comprised of those organizations (organized groups of people) which provide behavioral instruction and enforcement of standards. Examples include legislatures, police, army and your state Department of Motor Vehicles. The degree of willingness with which… Read more »

Xman
Xman
1 month ago

Unless it adopts fascism, conservatism cannot ever again become relevant because Leviathan exists. Antebellum “conservatism” meant prudence, self-reliance, a work ethic, fiscal discipline, and refraining from interfering in foreign affairs. Christianity was the main institution for transmitting what were essentially the Platonic virtues through the Protestant Ethic. The government was not going to come and save you from yourrself.It had no power to do so. If you were a homeless drunk and a failure, it was up to Christians to preach the virtues of temperance to you, because the government was not going to pay for you to go to… Read more »

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Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Xman
1 month ago

Fight fascism with fascism, eh?

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

Pretty much. Conservatives need to acknowledge that the Leviathan state is not going away and we’re not returning to Jefferson’s agricultural frontier yeomanry, however we might wish we could. Someone is going to control the state and the bureaucracy and the military and the organs of propaganda. It is either going to be us, or them. Franco understood that the Spanish Republicans were going to use the state to destroy traditional Spanish culture and religion and kill the conservatives. There could be no compromise. The National Socialists understood that if the KPD won the elections and took control of the… Read more »

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Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

Zman:   Our chattering classes are like the courtiers who live their lives walled up inside the king’s palace, talking amongst themselves. Everyone they know thinks the same things, says the same things and cares about the same things.   Restating the obvious, borrowing someone else’s words, recalled imperfectly: Russia in the early 20th century was surely one of the major world power. Yet within just a few years the old Czarist regime would fall to the Bolsheviks, ushering in major changes, including tens of millions of citizens’ deaths, even ignoring wartime.   The salient point here is that the Imperial… Read more »

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

Related is the absolute tone deafness of the Harris campaign, which has been even worse than Hillary’s which practically prided itself as being an “Alien Overlord For President” campaign.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
1 month ago

Alien Overlord 2024!

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

Yep. We won’t even get our Pyotr Stolypin. We’re going straight into the wall with no skidmarks……

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

Just today I heard an outer Party guy, standard GOP libertarian with some right inflection—he’s against gay guys getting tax credits for the orphans they adopt to make snuff films of, or whatever—say that the Bolsheviks were motivated by envy. Everything that happened after the apocryphal story of the revolutionary’s wife trying on the royal jewels was incidental. That moment said it all: Welfare queens! People who know the story know that bankers/etc. and Germany/etc. sent Lenin to conquer Russia—blah blah blah. We know the story. It’s not a secret. But it doesn’t fit any standard “take” on the event.… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Hemid
1 month ago

Hemid: Yes. I know the painting. And always, always, the refrain “If the Tsar/Stalin/the President/the Generals/Our Leaders/Trump ONLY KNEW.” Because no matter what most people claim, they truly believe that evil doesn’t exist, and ‘good’ or well-intentioned people can somehow ‘fix’ the world.

Compsci
Compsci
1 month ago

“…the sense that something must rise up to replace Conservative Inc is still with us. People like Christopher Rufo, Matt Walsh and Michael Anton, all see themselves in the process of creating a new right…” Don’t really follow Rufo and Anton, but Walsh comes up quite often. If I’m not mistaken he’s part of Shapiro, Inc? Is Walsh a movement thinker, or is he a grifter, par excellence? Never heard Walsh pontificate on any social phenomenon that was not fairly old hat, and then never with a proposed “solution”. Now that could just be me, but my thought has been… Read more »

ray
ray
Reply to  Compsci
1 month ago

Walsh is weak sauce. Part of the problem, not solution.

I.M. Brute
I.M. Brute
Reply to  ray
1 month ago

All my comments are instantly deleted from Matt Walsh’s YouTube channel, no matter what I write. This has been going on for years. How many others does he censor? How can I support a guy like that?

Bloated Boomer
Bloated Boomer
Reply to  I.M. Brute
1 month ago

If someone is associated with Shapiro they may as well be poison.

TomA
TomA
1 month ago

Nothing changes until the environment changes. Real change in politics can only occur after a societal collapse forces the sheeple into panic and desperation. Persuasion and volition matter not, only existential drivers like starvation or lethal threat can instigate fundamental change. We are better off pushing for collapse than innovating magic incantations to move the masses. Russia rebounded as a result of the collapse of the Soviet Union, not because Putin was a magic leader. Slow death abets misery.

ray
ray
Reply to  TomA
1 month ago

No need pushing for collapse, it’ll happen by itself. Your only choice is, do I have the alternative when the change comes.

stranger in a strange land
stranger in a strange land
1 month ago

My first thought before even reading the essay: The Lives of Others (the movie) is a superb.

M. Murcek
Member
1 month ago

Maybe conservatism needs to be something carried in the heart, mind, intentions and actions rather than something merely worn on the sleeve.

ray
ray
Reply to  M. Murcek
1 month ago

The Progs believe in their religion fervently. The Right has no religion.

Barney Rubble
Barney Rubble
Reply to  ray
1 month ago

A quibble… The Professional Right does have a religion — self-enrichment. Political office, the think tanks, conservative media, the consultancy outfits…it’s all a racket.

The Normie Right just wants its country back, but naively still believes that can be accomplished by working within the System. Will reality ever intrude into their worldview?

ray
ray
Reply to  Barney Rubble
1 month ago

True enough.

Jack Dodsen
Jack Dodsen
1 month ago

Is an official, organized commentariat all that influential in the Digital Age? If everyone can be part of the commentariat, what existed previously is at best archaic. While I loathe internet influencing as a thing, it undeniably persuades more than Regime media at this point and this has been the case for some time, particularly with those under 65. The system you accurately describe is a thing, but it really is a second banana to other sources of information as far as public impact. Christopher Rufo would have the same reach tomorrow if he were expelled from the Manhattan Institute… Read more »

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
Reply to  Jack Dodsen
1 month ago

Bingo. Part of the Elites’ hatred of Rufo (and the other young influencers), Rogan, Tucker is that their ascendance has broken the Lollipop Guild of the Elite Commentariat. There’s nobody under 55 going to Manhattan Institute events. My buddy goes and invites me sometimes. I told him that I didn’t want to embarrass him by flirting with Heather MacDonald the whole time lol.

Barney Rubble
Barney Rubble
Reply to  Captain Willard
1 month ago

Hubba hubba!

TempoNick
TempoNick
1 month ago

Off topic: You guys will love this one. Kumbaya for thee but not for me! Christian crosses on headstones hurt the feels of other Jews so they are verboten in Israel, even when the deceased died fighting for your little occupation statelet! 😂

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-825638

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
1 month ago

I have a couple of family members who keep sending me Heather Cox Richardson substack pieces. They want to convince me that she’s the voice of reason, while I think she’s speaking an alien language. From what I’ve read, her worldview seems to be Beltway-centric, seen through the Dem-Repub prism. This or that Republican needs to be opposed, Trump is bad, Zelensky is a brave hero, etc….My eyes glaze over. She and her comment section fully support the system, and in fact it never enters their minds that the system is broken. Things like the Civil Rights Act and race… Read more »

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 month ago

*Googles Heather Cox Richardson*
I was going to read some of her stuff to see what is up but I can’t get past the picture. Is that a tranny?

ray
ray
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
1 month ago

Looking at her mannish mug, I don’t need to read her content. I can estimate what she is.

ray
ray
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

An icon of the enemy.

Member
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 month ago

Try Elizabeth Nickson. Great fun, gutsy and one you’d happily hit on rather than punch in the face like most of the allegedly female scribblers.

Filthie
Filthie
Member
1 month ago

One of the things conservatives keep failing to notice is that the liberals have collapsed too. They can no longer balance a check book, think critically, or plan for the future. It’s getting so bad that guys inside the club are starting to go into rebellion. Trump, Elon and other Cloud people know that the wheels are coming off and that which can’t go on…won’t! Even in Hollywood – that bastion of liberal faggotry and depravity…are starting to crack. Stallone and others are now openly critiquing the regime, and websites like Rotten Tomatoes, The Critical Drinker and others tell the… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Filthie
1 month ago

Critical Drinker and company are correct to skewer the garbage being foisted on the masses as pop culture.

However, they consistently seem to miss the larger point that the destruction of existing popular franchises and the addition of new woke franchises is the entire point. The financial losses are a feature, not a bug to ideological lunatics.

fakeemail
fakeemail
Reply to  Filthie
1 month ago

“Even the blacks are in arms, watching their gibs threatened by imported 3rd world trash.”

Good to know they have their principles!

Tars Tarkas
Member
1 month ago

What this fails to understand is that heterodox views are anesthetized by the larger culture, the education system and the press. They are presented as highly immoral and worthy of scorn and disgust. Only evil people who want to do really evil things would think such horrible and forbidden thoughts let alone try to communicate them to others. We may as well be nambla.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 month ago

Nowadays it’s possible nambla has higher status

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
1 month ago

When we were young enough to be interesting to them, NAMBLA was a fully embraced, open partner in the perv coalition. Image-minded homos reformed it—moving the “L” to the front, hiding the real leather men and showcasing effeminate TV gays, etc.—to make it less frightening to women, less sexed. ’70s gay politics was dicks out. They put most of that away, for the ladies…because they don’t understand the ladies. The blackest “red pill” guys are right. It’s mothers who troon their boys out. There are hundreds of times as many groupies for child rapists as child rapists. Women want children… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 month ago

Those Trump rallies surely do resemble the unreasoned madness of Nuremberg rallies, don’t they?

RealityRules
RealityRules
1 month ago

Two of the social credit systems that exist in post-America. What is interesting about the Con Inc. system is its irony. Con Inc.’s entire world view is about creating/maintaining systems that have the proper economic incentives. You set up private capital and private enterprise and you get optimum outcomes they say. Well, looks like the advocates are living in that system and the outcome is a disaster on a scale that is unprecedented in human history. Greg Hood puts this most succinctly when saying that status, not money, is the primary motivator for human beings. After all, in a Merchant… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  RealityRules
1 month ago

Your score was already at –2 when I looked. Overall I agree with your comments, in fact find no fault with them other than the first sentence being a fragment. It’s beyond me why you got downvoted. I would hazard that a Ziobot saw the term “Merchant” and assumed an unflattering reference to The Tribe thus the thumbs down.   Con. Inc’s (indeed, virtually any entity’s) world-view prioritzes assuring basic survival motives: to survive, to reproduce, to expand territory (gain power and resources) as well as more “social” traits such as in-group cooperation (call it prestige, influence, acceptance) guard territory… Read more »

Zulu Juliet
Zulu Juliet
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

Mr. Layabout, can you see the number of thumbs downs and thumbs up, or just the aggregate difference?

I can only see the difference. If you can see both sums, can you tell me how that is done? If you do, I will surely give you a thumbs up!

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

To be clear, that when I say a Merchant Led Order it isn’t a proxy for the tribe. I mean it in the literal sense. I could have used a term like the Burghers, but that is kind of anachronistic. I appreciate your reply.

Hokkoda
Member
1 month ago

I think we’ll see people choosing Option C: complete disengagement from the system. You can’t fix it. You can’t get rid of it. So you put it on blocks and park it out behind the garage to rust into oblivion. The election in a couple of weeks is the last gasp. I think we’ll see a lot of people on our side give it one more try. But at the end of the day, the entire system Z describes is the status quo. Any result in 2 weeks other than the status quo is very bad for the current system.… Read more »

Bitter reactionary
Bitter reactionary
1 month ago

Getting out – expatriating – isn’t a bad idea in my view. But I know folks with family here perhaps can’t. Fortunately there are ways to get your tax-advantaged saving out of the US, so some of us will have that option and may make it regardless of what happens here if adequate care is taken. Anyway, the Cons can try all they want, but in what way will a “New Right”, however constituted, be useful to whites? It’ll just be another diversion of thought and effort and resources better spent elsewhere. Demographics can’t be denied. Better to spend time/thought/etc… Read more »

David Davenport
David Davenport
1 month ago

“The Buckley people did not have much of an “old right” to worry about, as it had collapsed in the FDR years,…”

No, there was the John Birch Society in the 1950’s. OK, you might say the Birch Society was the new Dissident Right for that era.

The long time hearsay is that the CIA backed Buckley’s magazine launch in 1955 ( or 56?) to start a “respectable” conservatism to counter the Birchers. William Burnham was the CIA’s man at *National Review.*

Wm. F. Buckley, by the way, was a homosexual… Sort of the Lindsay Graham of the 1950’s-60’s.

ray
ray
1 month ago

The Left/Progs/Establishment are fond of imagining that they are ‘on the side of the angels’ and ‘on the right side of history’. But from the true Christian perspective, the Left is satanic. Profitably satanic, to be sure . . . but satanic. ‘Twas always thus with the Left Hand Path. Celebrational homosexuality, open borders, globalism, feminism, transgenderism, and the Progressive Lie that undergirds all current institutions (bi-partisan government, media, corporations, courts/law, education, churches) are openly demonic from the Christian perspective. You need something new, something really reformative, you start from the foundation. The foundation is the ‘mandate of heaven’ or,… Read more »

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
1 month ago

Power structures in different societies are always topologically similar. It’s the names of the elite that change. In feudal times it was the nobility, in the USSR it was called member of the communist party, in Nazi Germany member of the Nazi Party, today it is being part of the elite. But everything is not constant. Sometimes state power is absolute. But we’re in an age,much like feudalism, where genuinely powerful centers are emerging, from religious and ethnic groups to outright terrorist groups to extremely wealthy companies like Black Rock to groups like the WEF to individuals like musk or… Read more »

Krustykurmudgeon
Krustykurmudgeon
1 month ago

Sort of reminds me of demolition man where Dennis Leary’s character is sort of isolated from the rest of society. Meanwhile cocteau is an avatar of the cloud people

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
1 month ago

All the apostles denied Christ after he died.

It took a resurrection to light the fire under their arses to go out and change the world by suffering.

Trump may get his 2nd term, but there’s some chance that after he’s hounded out of office, persecuted, and possibly worse, what’s left of the “true right” (or whatever it’s called) might grown a pair and realize “we’re next.”

But I wouldn’t hold my breath. Trump isn’t xist, his “resurrection” is in a getting reelected form, and he’s not going to ascend into heaven.