Wednesday, April 23 was supposed to be a big meeting of Western countries and Ukraine in London where the Trump administration would make its final push for peace to end the war in Ukraine. The meeting was canceled due to the Ukrainians announcing in advance that they were not interested in any deal that would require them to make concessions. This prompted Marco Rubio to cancel the meeting, at least the portion involving decision-makers from the administration.
The lead-up to this now-canceled meeting has been a microcosm of how the Western political system now operates. For example, the period before the meeting featured stories in prominent nodes of the Western information control system about the secret details of the Trump plan. The sources for these stories were never mentioned, most likely because they did not exist. Instead, it was members of the Kagan cult, former Biden people, or schemers in the British government.
It was clear that these stories were coordinated as they all featured the same narrative and much of the same language. For example, they dusted off the old 2024 narrative of a freeze along the front line, something Russia has always rejected as both unacceptable and impossible to implement. The stories also all framed the deal as a major concession by Putin, the subtext being that he is now desperate for a way out of the war he started for no reason at all.
One point of these stories is something seen constantly in the West. There is the belief among the managerial elite that they can meme things into reality. If they just pack enough versions of their desired truth into the information control system, at some point this becomes reality. This has been repeatedly seen with the war in Ukraine, but it has been a feature of every major event. During Covid, they operated as if the news stories they made up were true for a couple of years.
One possible explanation for this is that a key pillar of the managerial state is the assumption that people respond to information, so if one controls the information, one controls the people. Since another pillar of the managerial state is that reality is made by people, it follows that one can control reality, or at least the perception of reality, by controlling the people through control of the information. The old expression, perception is reality, has become an article of faith among the elites.
Another part of this story illustrates how Western elites are only capable of thinking one move at a time. The reason for the media campaign was that they wanted the Russians to reject the deal, so they framed it as negatively toward them as possible, assuming the Russians would publicly respond. There was no thought given to the possibility of the Russians remaining silent. They simply assumed it was inevitable because this was a pleasing narrative to them.
This meant there was no backup plan. Instead, they had to have Zelensky preemptively reject the deal to avoid a public catastrophe. This last-minute cancellation is about buying time, which is another feature of managerialism. Western elites now operate as if time is always on their side. If they cannot shape reality to their liking now, then they just need to wait until reality comes to its senses. In the case of Ukraine, they remain sure they can outlast the Russians.
This sense of time probably stems from the fact that managerialism is a world measured in process rather than tangible accomplishments. Normal people measure their lives by what they have done. The managerial class measures their lives by the networks and processes in which they are a part. There is never any pressure to do anything in this world, so there is no need to worry about time. There can always be another meeting to discuss the things discussed at the last meeting.
This sense of timelessness has infected their approach to Trump. In his first term, the plan was to put the brakes on everything and wait until he either quit under relentless pressure or was removed. When he refused to go away, they peppered him with lawsuits, figuring time was on their side. Now in his second term, the court system is tasked with throwing sand in the gears to wait out Trump. The same thing is happening with the Ukraine war. It is endless stalling.
This is what gives the West the same feel as pre-revolutionary France. The ruling elite of France assumed they had time, which allowed them to avoid dealing with the serious problems facing the system. One reason for the radicalization of the masses during that time was the sense that no one in charge cared about the growing problems because no one could see any action to address them. The apparent indifference to what was happening became part of the indictment.
A similar situation happened at the end of the Soviet system. Gorbachev was something like Jacques Necker, in that he was in his position to fix the problems of the system, but the system refused to be fixed. His failure set in motion the process that toppled the Soviet system. Similarly, Trump exists because of systemic failure with the expectation that he can fix the system. Like the reactionaries of old, the managerial elite assumes it can wait him out.
Historical analogies are never perfect, and that is true here. The French elite, for example, understood the system’s problems. These were mostly smart, educated men with a deep knowledge of the system. The modern managerial elite is populated by mediocrities skilled only in the sort of scheming that is the basis of drama. They also possess a stunning lack of self-awareness. The people thinking they just need to wait out Trump also think they are loved and adored by the masses.
Wars tend to be what break dysfunctional political systems. That may be the case with the Ukraine war. Everyone assumes Trump lacks the resolve to walk away from this situation and leave the Europeans to work it out with the Russians. If he walks away from Project Ukraine, the managerial elite of the West will have a chance to learn that they cannot meme reality into existence and time is not on their side, or they will cling to these beliefs as they head to the dustbin of history.
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Trump holds the reins of the most important horse. Is he the one with the will to sit high and gallop to the other side? Doubtful. The past week I have been filled with a heavy, sinking feeling. Many drastic things have been done to destroy Our civilization. It has been surrendered in just a few decades. It isn’t razed to ashes yet, but that is coming. That is what the Managers are biding their time for. They only have to wait and the forces they have unleashed will leave everything in ashes as they flit about in Netjets and… Read more »
Trump has accomplished more in his first 100 days than I thought possible. Anything good he does from here on is gravy. And there will be some more wins. He has a relatively better team this time and good chunk of the tech sector is behind him. Like the old French elite Zman mentioned, many of the tech bro ruling class pay closer attention, and they know our country is in trouble, but I’m not sure they have the resolve to fix it. Many of them seem bent on flipping back to the old script and (to rift the girlboss… Read more »
I must admit, I am also pleasantly surprised by JD. But why did he have to marry a dot head. We’re at the point in our history where we may never have a another white guy as president again and the house negroes of the Republican party did that to us.
Same here. It does not appear that the folks at the top of this administration either have the power, intellect, or will to do what is necessary. The Supreme Court decision was a kick to the solar plexus, in that we already know that Trump is by his own particular political nature unlikely to understand what must be done. The younger members of his staff playing around on X with cute memes are deeply unserious people, simply by virtue of that very activity. I wonder if there are more than a handful of people with the historical and political knowledge… Read more »
‘If you were to give Trump a button that would permanently end all Ivy League schools in the US, however, he wouldn’t push it’
Excellent test.
So this is counterpoint to Zman’s hypothesis? “The modern managerial elite is populated by mediocrities skilled only in the sort of scheming that is the basis of drama. They also possess a stunning lack of self-awareness. The people thinking they just need to wait out Trump also think they are loved and adored by the masses.” does not map well into an hypothesis that they are ubermenschen, that the mess we find ourselves in is some willful design.
Particularly when a corrupt managerial class of halfwits with the extant incentives would produce something very similar to what we have.
That’s “RealityRules” for you. Our resident doom-and-gloom junkie.
It isn’t an either or. The true believers and flunkies are legion. However, there are cold, calculating and highly competent operators too. Mayorkas is one of them. The people who orchestrated the growth of BLM and the Summer of Floyd are among them. To assume this is all incompetence is to underestimate what we are up against. This is a willful project of creative destruction executed by very powerful people who don’t care how eggs are broken. In fact, every broken egg is an opportunity to seize more ground. The mass dispersal of tens of millions of invaders throughout our… Read more »
I’m not saying this is the product of incompetence and neither is @Zman. Solid midwits are more than sufficient. It does not take a Dr. Evil to figure out how to dilute voter pools with illegals. It’s nothing more than knowing which precincts are run by their loyalists, who will do what is required to make sure the vote comes out right.
Meanwhile, those same red areas become impoverished through diversion of local moneys to alien relief, market distortions of the local economy because of all the FedBux, and, eventually, increased property taxes.
Los Angeles spends more on Homelessness Inc. than on the municipal fire department. Having dolts running your big branch offices eventually undercuts a left-lib coalition. If this is strategic, it must be a loose concept of making major U.S. cities more like South America. You may counter that, of course, solid Brazil-tier midwits are easier to turn up
A small cadre of truly evil power-players in the West has engineered the slaughter and maiming of millions of white guys in Ukraine over the past 3 years. And now a lot of average Ivans are dead because they allowed themselves to be duped into fighting a war for Western exploitation of their resources. We must not make that same mistake here. The enemy is within. If we must fight, it must therefore be with the correct focus.
Those evil power-players hate Russians and Ukrainians equally. They wanted to kill two birds with one stone. Ukraine with a depleted population means more non-European immigrants, a Soros wet dream. They’ll destroy Ukraine, but Russia has been the roadrunner and the neocons the coyote, with everything blowing up in their faces. They can’t beat Russia but at least they destroyed Ukraine.
Those evil “power-players” are hell-bent on recreating ancient Khazaria.
They fully believe it to be their ancient ancestral home.
From the Beginnings in Khazaria
https://archive.org/details/200YearsTogether/page/n9/mode/2up
Tradition!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDtabTufxao
Roadrunners top out at about 20 mph, while coyotes can reach 40 mph. We have been lied to about everything our entire lives!
With regards to time, I was under the impression that I would be long gone before things got kinetic with regards to an improvement of the political situation in the U.S.
Recent events are dissuading me from that notion, (The Tesla vandal not facing charges), the DOJ taking their sweet time to arrest obvious criminals in the government.
I know that there are many on this site that think that the damn won’t break, but my thoughts are otherwise.
I pray for my kids and grandkids.
The establishment-approved terrorists of “the sixties” (mostly the ’70s) were similarly lightly prosecuted. Check out the disposition of cases against the Weather Underground, for example.
Our guys have taken to citing the Church Committee as a lost model of government transparency or a blow against the past “deep state,” a purification ritual we need to remember and repeat. Its actual effect and probable purpose was to undermine the prosecution of terrorist groups infiltrated/run by intelligence—but not “right-wing” ones, of course. No cops in there!
Anyway, don’t despair. Too late was a long time ago.
Perfect, apt summation of AINO. I’m going to steal that. “Too late was a long time ago.”
“Too late was a long time ago.” Aint that the truth. EVERYTHING IS FAKE AND GAY, including Trumpster unfortunately.
I’m getting sick of the media games he’s playing. First he’s going to fire Powell. Then he isn’t. Then he is again. Powell was Trump’s appointee!
Sometimes it really does seem to depend on who he spoke with last
Bondi could come up with some Federal charges for the Minnesota Tesla vandal if she wanted to but she can’t be bothered. You better believe that if MAGA people were performing politically motivated acts of vandalism Merrick Garland would be sending them to Supermax in Colorado.
“Everyone assumes Trump lacks the resolve to walk away from this situation and leave the Europeans to work it out with the Russians.” Does it need resolve? He hasn’t got ego or reputation invested in this. All he has to do is to say he tried but found the Ukrainians recalcitrant and incorrigible and that he has bigger fish to fry (which incidentally is true). He’s already called it “Biden’s war.” Why does he have to invest further time and effort in Biden’s mess? Let the European faggots flounder and drown in the mess they helped create. And somewhere along… Read more »
Frankly, I think he should have said this as soon as the election was over. Shift from the secret plan for peace to blaming the whole mess on Biden and the Europeans. For some reason Trump wanted to make a deal. That is why the Europeans and the Ukrainians think he is bluffing about cutting off aid. They called his bluff after he booted Zelensky from the White House and he bent the knee, so they are not wrong this assume he will do it again.
Or it could simply be he recognizes reality for what it is? Ukraine will fall. That’s easy to pin on Bidet, and maybe on the neocons. But if he makes the right noises and talks about a deal, maybe he gets credit for the “inevitable” coming to pass?
No, the press will go into manic mode with universal talking points that Ukraine was on the verge of victory, and Trump fumbled at the goal line. Thus, all the ensuing chaos is his fault. Half the country will believe it.
True. That half wasn’t voting for him anyway, so I’m not sure that makes any difference. And those who did vote for him will discount what MSM says as leftist talking points. The question I’m pondering is whether his base can or will accept it as a “win”. You can’t undo the millions of dead, but maybe just stopping the killing would be a “win”?
I agree. Recently, 60 minutes has run several segments that were so over the top with propaganda they were amusing. Russian soldiers were attaching car batteries to Ukrainian genitals and bombing hospitals and such. They have so lost their credibility that it didn’t have much shelf-life.
Memeing things into existence kinda reminds me of the old days of Michelle and the bring back our girls hashtag. Your husband controls the 101st and could bring back our girls (whatever). But a harsh word from the internet will change Boko Haram’s mind.
And the Sad Face. I still remember the Sad Face.
“If they cannot shape reality to their liking now, then they just need to wait until reality comes to its senses” Alas, that is very true. Today’s column is a good companion piece to yesterday’s on girl bosses. Women and feminized men are especially prone to not letting an ugly fact get in the way of a beautiful idea (Huxley). I spent years consulting to executives (both male and female) in Eastern Asia who had to deal with executives in either the US or EU. The Asians, including the women, were mystified that every time they would try and explain… Read more »
‘Both the need to never say something won’t work (you are saying no) and the need to be super duper excited are both characteristics of corporate culture that white women have dramatically taken to the limit’
Yes exactly. A brittle, semi-hysterical culture of white women, who think they are powerful and awesome, but are totally propped up and failure-proofed.
Cannot, must not, ever tell them no. About anything. Corporations, schools, colleges, media, government, entertainment, even the churches — all ruled by white female culture.
Yes, you can’t tell white women no in a female dominated culture.
I worked for a little while in one and even the man who was the Chief Compliance Officer had to champion projects he knew would put the company out of compliance. If he didn’t, women would team up to destroy him with the 365 degree feedback – it was mandatory to do well on it. Men learned that you said yes, waited for the stupid project to fail and then, when they asked you what to do, you could be honest. But only then.
History is the integral of all these daily “news cycles” that Management types try to manage. The problem is that you can optimize the news cycle while have abject failure as a long-run result. Since we’ve seen no consequences from failure – Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan and now Ukraine – we’re going to keep getting more failure. There’s no feedback loop: everyone associated with these recent debacles gets promoted, or a Board seat with Lockheed or an NGO gig. We can only conclude that we are headed for a Cannae-scale disaster that will force a reckoning for the Managerial class.
You’ll know a full reckoning is underway when the firing squads get started. The criminals who planned and carried out the actions that resulted in regime change in Kiev back in 2014 need to be stood against a wall. It would be delicious to see those trials and executions take place in Nuremberg.
Yeah, the Trump Admin is toothless without consequences and a reckoning. Prosecutions, jailings, seizure of assets, exile. Doesn’t have to be that many, just the right ones.
I haven’t forgotten J6, lawfare, 3 a.m. perpwalks of political enemies, and ever so much more. Whose side are you on, Donald? Ours or theirs?
I do not think Blondie Bondi has what it takes, and Donald has shown no inclination towards restoration of order either. What’s lacking is some good old-fashioned Old Testament justice.
Too bad, because they seem to be obsessed with the Old Testament in all other respects.
ray: I haven’t forgotten J6, lawfare, 3 a.m. perpwalks of political enemies, and ever so much more. Whose side are you on, Donald? Ours or theirs? Last night, the internet got rather excited, because RFKjr walked across a street in Georgetown, carrying a “Saratoga” bottle in his hand: https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1914498206811001270 It was a great photo op, but it’s now the next day, and I’m still sitting here, wondering why Albert Bourla & Robert Langer & Bill Gates & Anthony Fauci & Klaus Rothschild Schwab & Rochelle Walensky haven’t yet been frog-marched off to Guantanamo, for their respective firing squads, to remove… Read more »
I don’t have much regard for Bondi, but she is just carrying out Trump’s directives. If he wanted arrests, there would be arrests. It’s a long shot to hope they must first replace a lot of prosecutors, and are biding their time. A real long shot.
I think you are probably right. What we tend to call “cuckservatives” and the like is them just following their “principles”. Frog marches are not in the cards because they believe that the judiciary should be used against those who violate clearly defined laws. Being a political opponent is not enough.
Indeed, the name itself identifies an ideology — a normative vision of what should be. The realist should have long ago realized “that’s not who they are”. Regardless of what they should be to fit our model of the world.
Even without a revolution. They will never stop doing what they are doing without consequences. Why are all the neocons not sitting in prison or waiting tables in a diner? Without the consequences which should naturally occur after such horrendous failures, they will continue to do it. It also sends a message to those with bright ideas that if your obviously dumb idea doesn’t work as you claim it will, there will be consequences.
When I think of historical analogies that could or would bring down the GAE I think more of Weimar and Zimbabwe and Argentina than I do of Cannae or Midway or what have you. Its devolution into absurdity seems impervious to any other scenario. Both the wogs it imports and the deplorables they replace worship the money it prints.
“Both the wogs it imports and the deplorables they replace worship the money it prints.” Ha, you ain’t kidding. Even get readers here who can’t understand that their stock market gains are only thru theft. If you lower interest rates to 0% to reflate the stock market, you are stealing. The only people in real life anyone would ever lend to at 0% is family. Funny, did rates on credit cards go to 0% during that time period? Of course not, but banks were able to rebuild their balance sheets leading to friends low and banking that small amount of… Read more »
Those types are far less common here than you supopose, @Mr House. Most people still have not grokked the connection between interest rates and stocks, particularly when even those who understand that much have no explanation for why the bond market has stubbornly refused to do what it should have done.
The types you are going to have much more problems with are those who want their student loans to remain low (or forgiven) or who want low home mortgage rates.
You have it backwards, as usual. People with assets would much rather have high interest rates. If I could just walk into the bank and get a guaranteed 7% interest on savings, damn straight I’d take that. It’s the decades of low rates that have forced people into the stock market if they want any assets at all to show for their time on the planet.
of course you reply, my favorite troll 😉
“It’s the decades of low rates that have forced people into the stock market if they want any assets at all to show for their time on the planet.”
Of course, bernake state that was the plan with 0% rates. Not much different then attempting to force people to take their experimental injection. Still theft, and if rates go to 7% or higher, your assets are going to be worth a lot less. Only worth what people will bid on them. Assets and interest rates are like a seesaw.
Theft from whom? Are you capable of at least thinking that far?
We’ve already seen what inflating the money supply demand side does with CoViD Ca$h, and we’ve seen what it does when supply side is inflated.
Why are you so upset about “Boomers” playing a zero-sum game amongst themselves when you are set to profit bigly when they are forced to sell into a down and declining market?
the taxpayer. Your stock market welfare isn’t any different then a dead beat on medicaid milking the system. Are you incapable of understanding that? Why are you so upset about no bailouts or 0% rates?
“the taxpayer.”
How is the taxpayer at all affected by stock valuations? Plot out tax rates v. stock market performance, just once, rather than going on with your stupid talking points.
Brainwashed people piss me off, if you couldn’t tell. Particularly when they are obviously smart enough to see through it. Morons I tend to cut a lot of slack.
You remind me of a client i had once when working at a big bank. His online banking statements were not showing, it was an internal issue and the IT team was looking into it, which i explained to him. He was rude. So i went out of my way just playing around to figure out how to get his statements. Took me about an hour but i figured it out. While trying to explain to him how he could get his statements (which he felt was too much work for him) he blurted out he pays more in taxes… Read more »
You are a dolt If I were offered a button to reduce government spending 95% across the board, I’d hammer on that puppy so hard it would probably break. There probably are not more than a few percent in the country who would.
You might, but I doubt it. As consumed by envy as you are, you want your free shit.
“Assets and interest rates are like a seesaw.”
Except, of course, when they are not. Take housing. When was the last time you saw housing prices fall in response to rates?
“You are a dolt If I were offered a button to reduce government spending 95% across the board” And you think stocks would stay where they are? If stocks can stand on their own two feet, why bailouts, why low rates? They’ve been low since the dot com crash. You must be objective, are you doing that right now? Have you not been paying attention to the heart attack they’re having with tariffs? Not even cutting government spending. You’re a stock welfare queen but you can’t admit it. The first step to recovery is to admit you have a problem… Read more »
“And you think stocks would stay where they are? “
I’m absolutely certain I’ve never in my whole life said anything remotely like that. If anything, I’ve been a doomer about the decoupling of price to earnings.
“Take housing. When was the last time you saw housing prices fall in response to rates?”
When the market was still allowed to discover price, so 2008! They’ll fall, job losses need to happen first.
You have lived a very different timeline than I, my friend. My recollection of 2008 was not price discovery, but bailouts as far as the eye can see.
Which is proper. Making money by investing in productive enterprises is (and taking the risks involved) is the ethical way to invest. Making money by investing in debt +interest is not.
If they’re productive, why do they need bailouts? If you and i run a company in the same field, and you’ve been buying out competitors and investing big time in chinese production of cheap parts (lets say we’re in auto parts) and i’ve been doing it slow and steady, competing on the value i offer the customer (via better parts and better service) and the debt markets have a problem because they’ve been mismanaged for decades. Why do you deserve a bailout? If you are so productive, why do you need a bailout?
Why are you so on about bailouts? Who is championing them?
All I’m saying is IF we refuse to do anything about the spending, it’s a whole lot better if the inflation manifests in stock prices rather than consumer goods. It would be even better if it only manifested in small private islands and Gulfstream jets and mega-yachts, things that have absolutely no impact on the prices you pay.
If you want to slam that 95% across-the-board spending cut button, I’ll gladly make room. It’s pretty lonely out here.
Correct, Steve. For most people, their largest asset is their house. Once they lock in a 30 year fixed-rate mortgage, higher interest rates raise income more than their expenses.
A system built on usury is always a house built on sand.
only if you never allow the debt to clear. If you run a company and reinvest parts of the profits back into the company, you’re doing it the right way. If you own a company and use cheap debt financing due to connections you have to buy out the market, you’re doing it the wrong way.
Do you have the faintest clue how corporate taxation and preferential individual income taxation for capital gains over dividends affect these decisions?
You want to reward production? Give preferential treatment to dividends. You want corporate big wigs to make up numbers for things like “Good Will” and distort everything just to make their stock options better? Then keep doing what you are doing.
who are you even arguing with at this point?
Cheap debt and bailouts are like steroids in baseball. Brady Anderson went from hitting seven a year to 50 something. Did he earn that? Barry Bonds went from a scrawny good all around player to a neck the size of two legs. Did he earn that? Cheating is cheating.
Ordinary people should not be in the stock market in any event. It is only the inflation that kind of forces people to go into something they not only don’t understand, but literally know nothing about. The stock market existed so wealthy knowledgeable people who understood the risks could own a piece of a productive asset. The return on capital was based on the profits of the company through dividend payments. Now, few stocks pay dividends and valuations are based on hocus pocus and good feelings. I’d be willing to bet that under 2% of ordinary (general public) “investors” in… Read more »
The Ukraine war was pure stupidity. Just examining the sizes of the militaries involved would show that, barring strategic and tactical incompetence, the Russians would ultimately prevail in any conflict. The Russians have to be commended for not retaliating against NATO, who is obviously a combatant at worst and a shadow ally at best. It took me years to break the conditioning about the truthfulness of what we read and watch in the Western “media,” which are nothing more than lazy, biased stenographers who gleefully parrot whatever BS the regime hands them with no scrutiny. Mask up! 30 days to… Read more »
Dispirit outcomes are always caused by white racism was my favorite lie back in the Obama administration.
It was not pure stupidity if your goal was to hurt Russia, while simultaneously keeping your money laundering operation afloat. Pure evil, yes.
Best quote
“The modern managerial elite is populated by mediocrities”
Thanks
Trump does just need to walk away from Ukraine, sooner rather than later. Of course the legacy media tards and democrats will denounce him as Putin’s puppet, but what else is new and who gives a F. Further, he and his administration should cut off the msm from any and ALL interviews or press events. What’ll Margret Brennan do when she can no longer primp, simp or argue disingenuously with leading Trump officials?
I agree except the last part. Margaret Brennan types are routinely embarrassed by Vance, Miller Leavitt, Rubio, etc.
They keep killing white boys and buying mansions for their murderers they will eventually find out just how much we love them.
“This is what gives the West the same feel as pre-revolutionary France.” It’s infuriating that Biden can open the floodgates of illegal immigration without any recourse on our part, yet “Muh, due process” when we try to get something done. Likewise with gay marriage which was invented out of thin air. We don’t have people with enough gumption to invent anything that benefits us out of thin air. And they wonder why so many people are absolutely disgusted with the Republicans supposedly on their side. I continue to call them cucks because that’s how little respect I have for them.… Read more »
The woman you wrote about, the new representative from New Hampshire who is married to Jake Sullivan, is an exemplar of this. She thinks because she taps a screen with her fingers that reality bends to her will at that moment. It’s amusing to me on a dark level, but the fact is, I have to spend my declining years in a country that has been leveled by these fools and will continue to be. The thought of being in one’s 60s or 70s with the US in 1990s Russia-shape keeps me awake at night. Watching the Dan Caldwell interview… Read more »
I know it would personally affect myself and my family, but part of me wants Trump and the US to stop any support in this conflict so the EU can get a harsh reality check. For far too long the US has been paying the bills, despite a number of military base closures and troop reductions over the past 40-years or so. And while this has the expected results of financial impacts to the local communities that’s just how things go and people adjusted to the changes or moved on. I’m sick to the teeth of German and EU political… Read more »
> Step 1: End all military and intelligence support for Ukraine
> Step 2: Sign defense pact with Russia
> Step 3: Invade Ukraine from the west
> Step 4: Glower menacingly across Polish border
> Step 5: Take all the “rate earth” materials we need
> Step 6: Visas for unmarried Ukrainian females under 30 with a healthy BMI
> Step 7: Tell Israel we need to occupy Ukraine “to put more pressure on Iran”.
Ladies and Gentlemen, I think I just solved all our problems.
It’s “raw earth”, not “rate earth”. I think steps 1 and 6 are all that is required.
As Z-man astutely points out, wars, especially long wars, break governments and societies…The Russian revolution was largely successful because the Czar entered WW1, with predictably disastrous results for everyone…his top advisor had predicted such involvement would destroy the Romanovs but was ignored…The Ukraine war is already threatening the stability of the EU and its feminized leadership, and may well lead to its breakup….and if Trump vacillates, the Ukraine and Israel’s demands for an attack on Iran can seriously damage and even destroy the US as an entity…
When the Czar ordered his defense minister to sign the order to mobilize the Russian army, the minister begged him to relent but he refused. The minister then crossed himself and signed the order.
Waiting it out has worked pretty well for the Left. RINOs eventually cave, and the one-way ratchet resumes turning left. It will eventually come to a violent end, but most of the perpetrators are already rich or dead
Long quote: “We have a new type of rule now. Not one-man rule, or rule of aristocracy or plutocracy, but of small groups elevated to positions of absolute power by random pressures and subject to political and economic factors that leave little room for decision. They are representatives of abstract forces who have reached power through surrender of self. The iron-willed dictator is a thing of the past. There will be no more Stalins, no more Hitlers. The rulers of this most insecure of all worlds are rulers by accident. Inept, frightened pilots at the controls of a vast machine… Read more »
So, walk away already. Stop the dithering and tell the Ukes that the jig is up and there will be no more swag from Uncle Sugar. Make the best deal you can with Putin. Forget this “art of the deal” crap. There is no longer any deal to be made, the Russians will call the shots.
There is never any pressure to do anything in this world, so there is no need to worry about time. There can always be another meeting to discuss the things discussed at the last meeting.
Z, did you and I ever work together, perhaps at a major prescription drug provider or an insurance company? Because boy, does that describe Government AND Corporations.
Back in my corporate days, I started to log the time I was in meetings versus doing my job. The point was to go to my boss and ask for some relief on the meetings, but then a funny happened. One week it was all meetings. I literally did nothing but sit in meetings, few with anything related to my work, or I spent the time travelling to the meetings. I abandoned the idea of getting relief from meetings. Instead, I stopped showing up. I would attend some that might have value, but the rest I skipped. Eventually my boss… Read more »
The only option for Trump is to walk away. Walk away and don’t look back. Have S. Miller write a good speech about the futility of the war, the intransigence of Zelensky and the best wishes for the Europeans to find a suitable solution. Deliver it during prime time. Whenever asked, use a Clinton line “We’ve covered all this before. If you don’t understand it by now, I’m afraid I can’t help you”. [I hate that scumbag, but admire his slickness].
The comedian probably has to go before anything constructive can happen.
If the Hispanic vote were really as critical to national political success as the myth claims, immigration control would indeed be a political loser (assuming all Hispanics favor immigration, which is by no means entirely true). No serious politician would support reducing immigration or controlling the borders if those positions meant defeat, and that’s precisely what the Open Borders crowd harped on in the past. But if the Hispanic vote is not so important and the white vote is, then the party’s strategy needs to adjust to that reality. It needs to think hard about how to win and keep… Read more »
Does Trump “walking away” and suspending US military support lead to a Russian victory? (seems like the central question). The answer doesn’t seem clear. I’ve been hearing for over 3 years now that such a Russian military victory is imminent, but clearly the “west” is capable of waging a successful defensive campaign (whether or not this is dependent on direct US support). Can Europe, sans US support, pool enough resources to more or less hold the line? My guess is yes. Thus they would claim victory and trumpet the dawn of a new era of Euro military cooperation. Assuming Trump… Read more »
The trouble with the hold the line idea is they have been doing this for three years and the line has steadily moved form right to left on your map. Over the last year the line has moved at an accelerating pace. Wars of attrition, which is what we have in Ukraine, rest on the assumption by both sides that they can outlast the other. By all objective measures, the Russians have time on their side and we see this on the map.
I am surprised at how long it is taking Russia to win this war. They should have air superiority and be able to bomb strategic targets with impunity. Perhaps their military capabilities are seriously overrated.
Doubtful. If Russia had dealt with Ukraine like Israel dealt with Gaza, what would the world’s reaction to Russia be?
Russia historically is very good at playing rope-a-dope. Just like Ali, on the ropes, crouched in a defensive position, letting his opponent wear himself out.
Russia isn’t just fighting Ukraine. She is fighting the entire west. So let them keep punching and wearing themselves out both physically and financially.
God I hate the people who run this country.
You’re assuming Russia wants to govern the rest of Ukraine. Maybe they have all the ground they want, and are just holding the line.
“I’ve been hearing for over 3 years now that such a Russian military victory is imminent” Who was saying this? Not the mainstream, i’ve heard all kinds of bullshit the past three years, but not what you’re stating. You have to give the Ukraine credit, they’ve managed to last a lot longer then realistic people expected. They wouldn’t have been able to do this without US material and monetary support. We’ve been essentially paying for their entire war the past three years. Can Europe step into that gap? I don’t think so. Lots of people forget that another thing that… Read more »
No, it definitely wasn’t the MSM saying it, it was dissident media saying it. And rather loudly in my recollection. Nor has that completely stopped. It appears to be primarily drones that have prevented a rapid Russian advance, and I’m guessing Europe can maintain a supply of them. As long as enough human bodies can be found. I don’t know who is going to pay to keep the Ukrainian regime running if the US doesn’t.
I recall dissident media saying Russian victory was inevitable, but only maybe a few saying it was imminent. Most as I recall saw it as a long grinding methodical slog – in fact, criticizing Russia/Putin for taking that approach.
I also recall MSM taking Russia’s slow approach as a sign of weakness rather than a deliberate strategy.
I don’t think Russia fully understood what would be required of them in the war, just like most in the North and South thought the war would be over in weeks. They do now and they’re devoted to doing it right it would appear. The ukraine is like Steve’s precious stock market, he’s earned it, pay no attention to the trillions of bailouts and interest rate tailwinds! When its gone, reality will assert itself.
You are correct, and to be specific it is outlets like: The Duran, Col. MacGregor, Judge Nap, Pepe Escobar, Simplicius and worst of all, Scott Ritter. I stopped listening to them because of the now 3 year record of predicting immanent Russian victory and being wrong every time. There is another dark theory out there put forth by the Russian right wing. That is that Putin is deliberately ruining Russia from within with wars he has no intention of ‘winning’ (i.e. forever wars), and with mass non-Russian immigration (sound familiar?). He (Putin) shuts down and even jails Russians who voice… Read more »
“Simplicius”
Do you post at his site under the name “GM”, you kinda sound like him…….
Most prominently, Col. Douglas Macgregor
If Europe takes over leadership of this fiasco and manages to hold the line, I will be disappointed, as I am openly cheering for Russia at this point. But it really should not affect the US either way.
Isn’t stalling a viable solution? Every year they import more low IQ animals into this country, and every year people breed themselves stupider and stupider. The basic premise behind “control information control the people” is that people are too stupid to figure out propaganda.
Agreed, but no matter how good your propaganda is, maintaining nuke-u-ler powder plants, jet airplanes and petrochemical refineries takes brains.
War on the other side of the world, waged for the benefit of the D.C. elite and the MIC. Just walk. Take your toys back and walk. Discussions? Walking is the discussion. Wean off the Death Industry. Strip the ribbons from the fake generals’ chests. When people refuse to love, you must make them afraid. Have a war, Ms. Von der Leyen. Your territory, after all. I expect if one peeled back ancient Sumer or Babylon, he’d find similar systemic failures caused by inherent, replicating human faults and behavior. Inept and nepotic managerialism, large-scale betrayal of the working level male… Read more »
If the Eurofags try to jump in to prolong the war there will be a lot more persecution of the type meted out to Julian Assange before and Dr. Reiner Fuellmich now.
Z: “The people thinking they just need to wait out Trump also think they are loved and adored by the masses.”
I don’t think this is true. They just think they can herd cats, if they had to. Something like that. They used to call it “Nudge”. Yeah, no, not gonna work. And they have been in a panic ever since they realized ‘nudge’ was generally BS, while trying to pretend they have everything under control.
“One possible explanation for this is that a key pillar of the managerial state is the assumption that people respond to information, so if one controls the information, one controls the people. Since another pillar of the managerial state is that reality is made by people, it follows that one can control reality, or at least the perception of reality, by controlling the people through control of the information. The old expression, perception is reality, has become an article of faith among the elites.”
Ah, the exceedingly rare triple tautology. Rarely spotted in the wild.
They lack insight. They are like mentally ill people, whom also lack insight.
IF he walks away…
I should have mentioned this on yesterday’s post but forgot. Z man likes to dish on the girlboss archetype – but what explains the fact that women who went to college are less likely to divorce than those who didn’t?
People who attend college are also more likely to be white (though that’s changing quickly). This explains most, but probably not quite all, of the social criteria in which the college educated tend to perform better.
Are they also more likely to marry?
Unmarried women do not divorce
I think so but I’m not sure. I remember reading Charles Murray’s book “coming apart” where he mentions belmont vs fishtown. I think even if you control for race, the college educated do better (and are interestingly enough more likely to go to church)
They marry higher up the food chain.
The war in Ukraine is testing the American patience. For the longest time the Ukrainians have behaved like the princess in the Donkey Kong video game universe, waiting for their Super Mario (read: Europe) to come along and rescue them. The Europeans have obliged because it suits their egotism and sense of self-grandeur. The Americans are a different kettle of fish. Being mostly a practical people, with America money talks and bullshit walks. Now we are seeing strength in the form of the American fist ✊ come down on the side of a strictly rational, non-dreamy solution to the sorry… Read more »
Macbeth, Scene 1: “Out,
damnspotdark sport!”.