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One of the critical questions in any strategy is “Then what?” This question must be asked with every proposed move and counter move. The question is both a reminder and an assumption that the other players will react to your move. Good strategy focuses on the range of possibilities to each move and is prepared for them. Bad strategy just assumes the move will work and good things will flow from it. This is often referred to as the lack of second-order thinking.
For the last five years this has been at the center of American politics. The regime has clearly lost the ability to ask, much less answer the question, “Then what?” The war in Ukraine is in its fourth year because no one in the West could bother to ask the question, much less answer it. President Trump now has himself in a terrible jam because no one on his team thought to ask this question when they were plotting the Pearl Harbor style sneak attack on Iran.
It does not appear that any of them asked the question when planning the operation against the Iranian bunker facilities. By the looks of it, they settled on this attack because they assumed it would satisfy the Israelis, satisfy the crazies in Washington screaming for blood and provide an off-ramp in the conflict. Signaling to Iran that it was a one-time thing was supposed to induce them back to the bargaining table or at least encourage them to seek a cease fire in the war.
The assumed answer to the magic question was all the good things the administration needs to happen in order to wriggle free from this trap. Perhaps sensing that it was not the magic bullet, they immediately started to beg China to pressure Iran into not closing the Strait of Hormuz. Presumably they asked the Russians to do the same thing, as the Iranian foreign minister is in Moscow this week. Closing the strait would bring the whole thing crashing down on Trump’s head.
While the Iranians are prepared to close the strait, they have not done so, but they continue to send missiles at Israel and Israel is firing back. It is clear that the Iranians are not going to come back to the bargaining table, and they have no intention of ending the war with Israel. Of course, Israel is now demanding more strikes because it was never about Iranian nukes for them. It was always about inducing the United States into a ground war to topple the Iranian government.
President Trump is justifiably getting savaged by his voters, but in fairness to him he now lives in a town that operates like Jonestown. Everyone worships Israel or at least pretends they worship Israel. It is beyond creepy to see everyone in Washington act like Israel is the god of the world. Some sort of mass psychosis has swept the ruling class where they are convinced that their purpose in life is to serve the needs of this flyspeck of a country halfway around the world.
That just makes the crisis worse for the Trump administration. Even if they can have a moment of clarity and see the danger, they are limited in their options. If they do no more than provide support for Israel, they remain entangled in a war of attrition, while the crazies scream for blood, holding the domestic agenda hostage. They cannot make a deal with Iran, as the Israel lobby will never permit it. The only way out is to end the Israel lobby and that means tanks in the streets.
That is the thing about the question at the start. It not only forces the person answering it to think about the possible reactions from the other players, but it forces them to think clearly about the other players. If the Trump people had a realistic understanding of Israel and the Israel lobby, they would know they are dealing with hostile aliens who look at the United States as a Walmart during a ghetto riot. They would know how to treat them as adversaries, rather than allies or clients.
The same can be said for the approach to Ukraine. That has been pushed off to the side, but the neocons have not gone away. As things reach a critical point in the war this autumn, they will be back to extort the Trump admin. Given the duplicity of the Republican Party, the big, beautiful bill will probably still be held hostage in the Senate come the autumn, so it will be another round of extortion in order to give the neocons what they want in the war against Russia.
In a way, the crisis engulfing the Trump administration in the realm of foreign policy is a microcosm of what faces America. The MAGA movement finally got their man into the White House with the clear support of the public. There is a team in place that can execute the domestic agenda. Then what? The answer so far has been a revolt in the judiciary against the Trump agenda, the Republican Party holding his legislative agenda hostage, and the usual suspects subverting his foreign policy.
Cancer does not leave the body just because the body voted to live. The cancer must be removed and that is the answer to the question, “Then what?” That appears to be impossible within the current rules, which brings us back to the question that seems to haunt this age. The current crisis is a gordian knot that cannot be untied within the rules of the system, so then what? For now, the Trump people do not have the answer, but the answer is there, just waiting its turn.
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I hadn’t paid attention to Tammy Bruce. A scissor sister who was the head of NOW back in the day. The farcical character of this rotten system gets more extreme every day. Let’s look at the objective reality of this. The spokeslesbian of the United States State Department, as appointed by the America First President just stated that Israel is the greatest country on earth. The country is gone. Of course, ten days ago there was a metropolitan provincial uprising in a major American port city. A colonizing population revolted against the enforcement of our laws and the provincial governor… Read more »
I had no idea Tammy Bruce was at the State Department until this video came out. Who would know more about diplomacy than a Cable TV talking head who flips her political affiliation whenever it suites her best? A completely useless person outside the politician system who is there simply to recite lines for the camera. I keep thinking the system has to collapse, but it staggers on even as it gets more and more absurd.
I know I have the minority opinion on this, but Trump hiring all these vapid TV talking head figureheads leads me to believe that somebody else is in charge. These people are largely TV talent. What does a TV host know about running things?
Of course someone else is in charge, but who and what are their motives? What oversight do they have and how would they be replaced? It all points to signs of an unhealthy system that can’t continue much longer, but yet it does.
Not at all minority. Of course our elected leadership are puppets; Trump is a somewhat more sentient Biden.
I want to sell a bridge to anyone who thinks Trump is in charge. I’m sorry but how many layers of denial can people hold??
Next, we may expect to see Megan Kelly running shops at State. Sounds like the State Department has become just another coven.
What a joke of a nation.
Tammy is the “out and proud lesbian” who is also a “conservative”. I’ve heard her in years past. She’s got the Sean Hannity “talking points” handbook right in front of her, and she sauces it up a bit. I hate all these people. They’re all “paid conservatives” much as circus clowns are “paid clowns”. Not one of them has objected to the bombings of Iran. Nope, not there in the playbook.
All these people hate Tucker Carlson now, because he is not buying into this stupidity. And to think I used to believe that NPCs were just lefties.
“Conservative pro-choice lesbian,” LOL.
I think Mr. Br?uce is a member of the tribe. That explains the Isreal statement.
I saw that clip. Is she a Jew? Is she trolling us? Is she trolling them?
(She’s an Italian Catholic. She started with a little radio show in Los Angeles. This is a media war, so Trump is recruiting outside talent.
Those talk-show people? They had to hold their own and defend their arguments in front of a live audience. If you couldn’t keep that audience, you were out. Girlfren has had a lot of experience doing exactly what she is doing now.
She was a national political organizer too. Plus, well, when she was young, babe was smokin’.)
Brilliantly stated!
If you go back and look at the transcript of Trump’s speech after the bombing, you will see he always mentions Israel before he does the US, every time. He congratulates Netanyahu before any American official. He congratulates the IDF before he does the US military. He says “God Bless Israel” before he says “God Bless America.” If I didn’t know better, I would say that someone on his speechwriting team is on our side because it just sounded horrible and so obvious while he was saying it.
“If I didn’t know better, I would say that someone on his speechwriting team is on our side because it just sounded horrible and so obvious while he was saying it.”
Or, like Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin, they consider Israel to be more important and are utterly blind to how this comes across. That being said, I wouldn’t rule your theory out. The whole thing was a disgrace.
Listening to our elected officials extolling the virtues of Israel, you’d be forgiven for thinking you were listening in on a hostage situation.
Never trust a fag. Sexual degeneracy is always a symptom of deep moral corruption.
It’s also a sign of profound mental instability.
Homosexuality is almost always one paraphilia in the midst of others present in the same damaged psyche.
It also drives every priority they have and every decision they make.
Then again, she has clarified the attitude in Washington for all to hear: the USA is the greatest country in the world, after Israel.
What do you think happened?
-A troll?
-A dyslexic moment?
-flattery to the guests?
-she let her guard down and spoke honestly?
-she didn’t think anybody would see it in the US because it was Israeli TV?
-is Tammy Bruce really (((Tammy Bruce)))?
Well, thank you, RR. That was an upper deck home run. This morning I heard a clip of Vance explaining that destroying the Iranian nuclear program is squarely in the national interest. Why? Because Iran having nuclear weapons would be “terrible” for the US. He did not go on to explain why that would be, in fact, terrible, for the US or for that matter, any other country. Wikipedia informs me that Iran is the world’s 17th largest country both in land mass and population, and that Israel checks in, respectively, at 149th and 93rd. Let’s have some fun, and… Read more »
“This morning I heard a clip of Vance explaining that destroying the Iranian nuclear program is squarely in the national interest.”
LOL what fucking pure rubbish.
What are the Iranians gonna do… nuke Menomonee Falls?
What we actually need is an American Pinochet.
Three comments today: 1. One thing I noticed over the weekend just from scanning normie comments in the local paper is that they think MAGA is all in on bombing Iran. When I tried explaining to people that John Bolton, Tom Cotton, Ted Cruz and Zioclops Dan Cuckshaw are not MAGA, I know I was getting blank stairs on the other side of that keyboard. 2. People on the non-establishment right were livid about what was going on, including me. I’ve been so radicalized by these buffoons, and I am actively cheering for Iran to get nukes so that nobody… Read more »
Voting tells you that you’ll been suckered into the “game” once again. Been there done, that.
I’m getting comfortable being a single issue voter (immigration). For all the talk of no difference in the uniparties, there was one in that respect. If there isn’t, then I’ll stay home.
Same for me. My single issue used to be judges, but then we got Kennedy, Souter, Roberts, Kavanaugh and Barrett. Republican appointees are about 50/50, while Democrats are 100/0.
Immigration is the key to all the other issues. I live in California and the immivasion has changed the politics here radically.
I imagine the immivasion has changed everything radically. And not for the better.
“the immivasion has changed everything”
How so ? Hopefully against the invaders and their enablers.
Pausing illegal immigration is *not* rolling it back. The average voter needs to learn the difference and “catch wise”. It is quite possible to stop illegal immigration, or reduce to negligible proportion of entrants, deport a million or two IA’s through whatever means, and at the end of Presidency have 13 to 18M IA’s firmly ensconced in American society. The next President can “do a Biden” or worse, “a Reagan” and we are not better off, perhaps worse off, than if we’d done nothing at all under Trump. To imply that voting for Trump due to “immigration” was a “good”… Read more »
When you realize that basically everything you were taught in school about our government is a bunch of BS, you can’t help but be cynical. I am also angry for being suckered all these years.
I never use my phone for anything like this, but I was talking to a friend yesterday about Iran and was telling them things they had never heard before (I was on with a couple on speaker) and while I was doing that I happened to visit on an old bookmark for Conservative Tree House. It’s one left over from a couple phones ago, I never go there anymore, It was scary just how unhinged the normies there were about Iran and worse than that just how cult-like they were about Trump. He is literally Jesus to them it seems.… Read more »
I also popped in the CTH just to see what they were saying. Hadn’t been there in a long time. I was also very surprised with what I saw. Those people sounded the same as the people cheering on the first Gulf War.
Remember this? https://youtu.be/ZzLoNLnvMCo
This too: https://youtu.be/AtfZfrKZKrc
I’ve been banned for years by both CTH and Gayway Pundit. I still skim Gayway headlines and comments – full of rah rah idiots in lockstep with Trump. And now Trump is attacking Thomas Massie. I’d actually consider voting again if I could vote for Massie. Saw one decent comment: MAGA stands for Miriam Adelson’s Goals Achieved.
Ace of Spades is so obviously an influence operation.
Big supporter of the Bush/Iraq war but claim to be annoyed by how they were fooled.
They never talked about Epstein,ignored the Carlson/Cruz interview and are all in on the Iran war.
Most of the writers are Jewish but “Ace”, LOL, claims he’s Irish. Although he doesn’t seem that interested in Ireland he is obsessed with Israel and anti-Semitism.
“Miriam Adelson’s Goals Achieved”
Good one.
I can top that. I was banned from American Renaissance 😀 (full disclosure: for foul language.)
I’ve been banned from Amren too – didn’t bother to find out why. And I was banned from Counter Currents. And although I tried to choose my words carefully, I was banned from what I thought was just book reviews on Amazon, but now I’ve learned I can’t even make a product review (the rare time I am motivated to).
“When you want to offend a strong man tell him a lie. When you want to offend a weak man tell him the truth.”
Marcus Aurelius
Substitute race for man and the apothegm still holds true.
Looks like this blog is Outcast Island. I’ve never been banned from a site. Always get disgusted and vamoose before that can happen.
I’ve gotten kicked off of instapundit dozens of times, dating back at least a dozen years. I always snuck back on because I knew how to get around all their bans. This last time I was banned, I lost interest. I haven’t even tried to get back on. It’s all ziocons over there anyway.
It hasn’t changed at all.
I go there sometimes just to check out the craziness. The are Q Tards with religion. TDS also stands for Trump Delusion Syndrome.
Then What? is absolutely the correct framework for strategy development. But even before “then what?” are the predicates: strategic planning assumptions. These describe the parameters/constraints of strategy development. This is just first-order thinking: what is reality? Here are the pertinent ones: 1) No legitimate government in Iran (with popular support) will be friendly to Israel 2) We have no means to control a “regime change” process in Iran 3) Israel will fight to the last American dollar and soldier 4) We cannot sustainably project our military power in Iran The problem we have is not only do we not ask… Read more »
The assumption that there’s no second-order thinking involved is not obvious to me. As you so concisely itemized, nothing will turn Iran into another Turkey, so the best outcome for our most sacred ally, is a new Libya, a failed state.
Ascribing to stupidity what can easily be explained by malice is a dangerously naive proposition, it is what they want you to think, their insanity defence. Our rulers are not idiots, they’re evil: idiocy would entail that they sometimes did the right thing by chance, but this never happens.
Even the evil you describe would be preferable, in the sense of having a rationale, to the suicidal chaos underway. I’m with Z on this one: it is magical thinking coupled with a tiny bit of the malice you described. The one aspect of Z’s analysis that is suspect is that there was first order thinking involved.
Yes Jack. That was basically my point. Zman is absolutely right that there’s no second-order thinking. My point was that the first-order thinking, if it’s happening, isn’t grounded in realistic predicates. Felix correctly inserts the possibility of malice.
Certainly better for our most psychotic but greatest ally.
The neocon filth are notable most of all for their unshakeable sense of entitlement:
Because God said so,
I think there’s tons of second order and even third order thinking and planning going on. There are plenty of capable men in the admin who could foresee this tar baby getting worse. The scariest part is that they decide on these courses of action despite being shown the downside. God’s All Stars are dictating to the US government what they will do and Trump is going along with it. Is it from evil, fear, stupidity? I think Trump wants to pivot to make “big deals” and had some usual suspects convince him this was going to be quick. Not… Read more »
“…there’s tons of second order and even third order thinking…” One might logically come to that conclusion as well. What does the “blob” most fear about MAGA? That the promised domestic agenda is implemented. What has been to greatest failure of all previous “conservative” Presidencies? That they become distracted with foreign affairs/entanglements and inevitably disengage from internal affairs. Seems to me we are seeing this now. True, there are special nuances that only Trump could have presented to this “distraction theory”, but that’s to be expected with any President—one tailors one’s “plan” to the specifics of the victim. The Ukraine… Read more »
Trump’s domestic plan is wildly popular and despite the best efforts of the narrative creators, was only getting more popular. Just a few weeks ago I saw a CNN clip where they were absolutely incredulous that Trump remained popular despite all the pictures of sad brown people. The thing in LA was an absolute disaster for Newsom and the Democrat party and Americans mostly encouraged Trump t ramp up the deportation and go after the illegals and funders of these riot campaigns. So what does the ‘blob’ do, fluff up Trump to go to war with Iran. Not only does… Read more »
Well said. I’ve been quite surprised when skimming comments (even given most are from stupid women) on both normal and cuckservatard sites, to see that the vast majority have been celebrating the enforcement of immigration law. Yes, there’s far too much of ‘go back and come in the right way,’ but most appear unmoved by brown sads and even seem to realize most aren’t telling the truth and full story. All presidents since the beginning of the 20th century have preferred foreign to domestic affairs. Much simpler (on the surface) to solve when viewed through the myopic ‘merkin lens, and… Read more »
Well put.
‘now instead of discussing domestic issues, everyone is arguing over Iran’
Exactly.
‘It was, sorry to say, evil genius at work’
Evil yes, genius no. It was an obvious move. The surprise to the base was trump acceding so readily, and dumping his domestic agenda so quickly.
‘What does the “blob” most fear about MAGA? That the promised domestic agenda is implemented’
Yep. Blatant attempt to draw attention and resources away from the necessary Cleansing of America.
Heck no. Before the midterm primaries, Trump will order up Purge Night. MAGA will win seats in a landslide!
The Great Replacement is the primary goal of the Blob, no doubt. But let’s not mitigate the profound stupidity and lack of thinking on the part of the Trump Administration that led to this suicidal mission. It is a toxic combination. I wouldn’t even discount Netanyahu totally slithering out of it somehow and leaving the United States solely holding the bag, if it is possible.
The great replacement is the only existential problem. And now it’s off the agenda because of this new war. I’m so angry I’d better just shut up
TGR is the be all, end all, the alpha, the omega, the most existential crisis of Western history.
It would not be surprising AT ALL to learn that what seems increasingly like a kabuki war with Iran was launched to distract from the insufficient rate of deportation, kind of a reverse Wag The Dog.
In a nutshell
Is there second and third-order tactical planning taking place? Probably. I’m questioning the strategy, not the tactics. Nobody alive and sentient since Desert Storm could impute any kind of logic into the apparent strategy here. It defies 30 years of actual results.
Grand strategy basically doesn’t exist anymore because our system only allows 4 year planning cycles. Yet another reason why we won’t last much longer. My point about 2nd order thinking was that I think it’s a mistake to think that everyone is just a bumbling fool throwing darts at a board and not capable of understanding 2nd/3rd order effects. Just because we can’t see the sense doesn’t mean it isn’t thought out. You’re right, this isn’t going to end well, but I tend to think this is very thought out at least by the Rasputin-like characters in the blob. I… Read more »
If that’s the case, Trump hasn’t done much second-order thinking about his supporters.
Pretty sure most of his supporters are normie griller types & far outnumber “dissidents” The strike on Irans nuke sites is being spun as a knockout blow to the Irans nuke program & this thrills normie. personaly I hope it was as shia mullas are messianic nuts who believe the Madi will soon reveal himself & will burn all infidels with fire from heaven. They are as bad as the zionists that think god himself promised them all of Isreal & are destined to rule over all goy & who actually have used tactical nukes at least twice in Syria.… Read more »
Fair enough. I would suggests that, even if there’s second-order thinking, it’s based on false premises. I agree about the lack of “grand strategy”. It’s a problem. But we can also have “grand strategies”, like NAFTA, that are pursued for many years and are just bad ideas.
Sure, and they got the results they wanted. Kill the whiteboys over there so we can run brown sheboons over here, unopposed.
“All tactics and no strategy is the sound heard before defeat”
It’s more elegant in Mandarin…
The advisors in the Pentagon who warned Hegseth about the many dangers of starting a war with Iran were fired.
Not the least of which is China gets involved in a proxy war against us. It would be a great way to test all the Chinese equipment against American equipment.
Yes. They will probably provide Iran with war material at the very least. It is in China’s interest to bleed the U.S.
Already shipping cargo on their new rail line, and they’ve cut Israel off from rare earths needed for missile shell alloys and circuits.
Wow. That was quick.
The Iranian Foreign Minister met with Putin yesterday.
Putin asked him what he needs.
The Kremlin read-out didn’t report his reply.
“Is it from evil, fear, stupidity? “
I think Elon told us why, right before he got his black eye.
‘Our rulers are not idiots, they’re evil’
Yes. Never let them off the hook with that ‘insanity’ jive.
Yes Felix. It’s entirely possible they are driven by malice. I was trying to be concise and limit my comment to the scenario wherein their intentions are good.
So strictly fantasy.
Felix: Brilliantly said. Because stupidity abounds in the fedgov, most find it more palatable to accept that as prima facie evidence of incompetence and failure. But malice there is aplenty, and it often and easily goes hand-in-hand with stupidity. There is quote after quote, time after time, proving that AINO’s government despises America’s heritage people. And when jews, womyn, neocons, and others tell you they hate you and that their loyalties lie elsewhere, take them at their word.
Heh. The Burning of the Hats will be seen from space.
Evil and stupidity are not mutually exclusive. The Zionists and neocons are both.
‘We kicked their ass!’ is not the cry of honest assessors. Nor of mature actors upon domestic and foreign stages. It’s embarrassing. I am no mooslim lover, to say the least. Best thing I can say is they’re deceived and deluded. Islam isn’t even a good sell, story wise. They just wanted their own deity, like the Near East folks had. The idea that Gabriel dictated all that rigamarole koran is hilarious. If they want to be my enemy, I can sure do that. But right now my enemies are in America, Britain, and the modern West. The mooslims haven’t… Read more »
Yes. We won every major battle in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan and still lost the wars or the peace processes. This triumphalism is feminine, performative and has become the hallmark of the internet age – hot takes are seemingly necessary for everything in order to “win the news cycle”.
Triumphant and prototypically feminine, yes. We bomb you, and then the first words outta our mouth are ‘Let’s have peace. We want peace’. It don’t get any more contradictory and womanly than that. __________ Hey, Silva. Do you remember that meeting with John Jones and that old man they called U.S. Christmas, down near El Rito? – That old man they called U.S. Christmas? – Rlght. Si? Seems John stepped on one of U.S.’s boots one night they was both in town. Old U.S., he’d been out hunting buffalo for six months. Now, he was mean and testy and damn… Read more »
A problem is that we have for generations been able to provide both “guns and butter” wrt our military adventures. Most of the public is removed from the effects of our government’s wars of aggrandizement. Somewhat similar to Israel, except for this latest fiasco of their cities being bombed. Reactions to our latest war of choice is as expected, the populace loves it so far (not all, but enough). We feel no pain, suffer no consequences—yet. I have expressed a plan—pipe dream really— to prevent such pain-free folly. I call it “pay for play”. In all conflicts, we require a… Read more »
Everyone in government and near government should have to pay 50% on whatever their take home pay is and their children are mandatory draftees. Of course, this could only be done by the elite who support all these ruinous policies.
The slobs have absolutely no say whatsoever in war or any other government policy. Why should they pay just because they are flag waiving? What are they going to do? Write a strongly worded letter to their congressmen?
No matter who we vote for, we get more of the same.
“No matter who we vote for, we get John McCain.”
I blame you for whatever sleep I loose tonight as the reality of that statement sinks in.
I’ve heard the blintzes in the Senate canteen are of the very finest kind…
Then they Blintzkrieg smaller nations
That just proves they all like ZZ Top 🙂
Rumor spreadin’ ’round/
That Texas town/
‘Bout that shack outside Georgetown!
We kicked their ass! We kicked their ass! says it all.
America’s gonna send THESE overgrown children to war? Who have never been homeless, never done without, never shivered through a night, never been in jail, never been in a fight, never even been UNSAFE. Their existence is cocooned; their mentality is smartphones and vidgames.
Zero immediate consequences for Americans, therefore USA! USA!
I want my country back and I want my satisfaction for the past 50 years of beatdowns. I am not interested in foreign anything until that happens.
Yes. The Vaxx is probably the worst thing they did to us. They have covered up millions of outright dead, many more with their organs destroyed and many generations of Americans who will never be born.
Trump will still not admit any of that and the Vaxx is still allowed. It is getting harder to think of him as anything but a Trojan Horse.
Too harsh. Trump is not the one to pick up your anti-vax stance directly. Too high a position/effort, too low a goal. Trump did however pick the best anti-vax people to head the government agencies in direct control. That “ain’t nothing”.
Well there is criminal stupidity. If it is not a general crime it should be for a President.
I find it disturbing how much mainstream religious thought is derived from men who wandered into the desert and came back claiming to have seen visions.
A prophet and a storyteller ain’t the same thing.
Islam is a model of rationality compared to some others. Mormonism has their book delivered by an Angel called Moroni.
That’s a clue as to their target market.
Well remember now, we have those “big bootiful weapons” that no one else but Trump knows about. We also have the bestest most bootiful military in the world to deliver all of the big bootiful weapons. That no one else knows about.
It’s awfully convenient to drop into an event and criticize the bad to worst outcomes as though the past 15 years of maneuvering circumstances to arrive at this single consequential and unpleasant solution didn’t happen. Barack Obama worked hard to give gifts to Iran through his execrable donations and useless agreements. And Iran was happy to play political games with the rest of the world until they had the means to turn a tiny nation into a plate of glass and exert their control over the entire Middle East. If you want to wax eloquently about second and third-order thinking,… Read more »
Come on man. Either this is parody or you have this site mistaken for Instapundit
You can tell Samuel Adams is a brainwashed slave because he managed to bring Obama into this discussion along with copious amounts of zionist propaganda. You’re still butt hurt about the pallets of THEIR cash being returned to them? The JCPOA was just a ruse Iran was using to create a bomb and turn israel into “a plate of glass”? The same agreement that placed the IAEA spies throughout all their nuclear facilities? It’s coming out that those spies then transferred info on Iranian nuclear scientists to israel for assassinations. And you still think it’s Iran trying to “exert their… Read more »
These people are everywhere. The guy with a small hat on fox news told him Iran wants to blow up the world, so he eats it up without a moment of introspection or reasoning. He probably has a US/Israel flag on his pick up truck and thinks Brawdo will water the crops.
People, Samuel is absolutely the last person you’d want to call uninformed.
And the name-calling? Knock that shit right the fuck off.
Why should I give a shit “what the nature of the Middle East would be this summer after Tel Aviv disappears in a blinding flash of light and the next caliphate is announced by Iran”?
I live in the U.S., not the Middle East.
Not my monkeys… not my circus.
I find nothing inaccurate in this comment. The cash belonged to the previous government and the Iranians, and we didn’t let the thieves steal it – it will be returned to the people after the restoration.
Mossadegh and the Ayatollahs were the color revolutions.
As to that last, well, I like to wonder about such things. I volunteer!
It’s even funnier if your read this post in Mark Levin’s obnoxious, screeching voice.
.. and the horse you rode in on.
Since I disagree, the real Then What is getting Israel to defeat itself.
Iran will be either a giant Palestine, or…I optimistically posit this gives America has a chance to be the good guy. They used to see us like that. It’s a restoration, not a “regime change.”
Oh. My. Israel will be involved, even against its wishes. Well, boo effing hoo.
What a success in this offers is breathing room to deal, then, with the invaders, and all the other crap. The Noticing is rolling under its own power now, after that we’ll start to Notice the Replacement.
The only way out is to end the Israel lobby and that means tanks in the streets.
It is time.
ICE agents were brutalized this weekend in LA and no one in D.C. cared. Many supported the savages.
D.C. needs regime change, and not solely or primarily at the top. Trump has destroyed his presidency, but it presents an opportunity to take out the trash.
I’m probably going to be downvoted for saying this but I’m not impressed by the reports I’ve seen detailing the “injuries” suffered by the ICE agents. It seems to be mostly cases of having been shoved, tripped, falling down, and bruising their knees. Or being spat on. Golly. I support law enforcement (otherwise why have laws?) but have some difficulty with the idea that injuries to LEO’s are somehow more heinous than the same injuries to an average citizen. I’m not saying the protesters are entirely innocent in these cases but the charges that have been filed do seem to… Read more »
If I touch a cop I am going to be beaten down and charged with a felony. Who gives an honest eff about severe the injuries were to ICE agents? Every one of the invading insurrectionists needs to do time and be deported
I agree entirely. I’m just saying some of the assault charges I’ve seen seem to be overblown.
… and if and when the Left regains control of the government and starts using LEO’s to put down our protests, this stuff might come back to bite us.
The Left needs no predicate at all to act in any way it chooses.
It’s time for that canard to go.
And to be clear, I’m no badge licker, but if I was in the country illegally, neither would I be protesting or spitting.
Because so many ICE agents are the same as the police, and the secret service, and the border patrol. Tons of mestizos, womyn, fat bureaucrats, and badged bullies who are accustomed to the compliance of law-abiding Whites.
https://www.infowars.com/posts/tren-de-aragua-gangbanger-arrested-for-attempted-murder-of-female-ice-officer
OK, the assault reported in that infowars article was more serious than some of the others described in various arrest reports.
Here are some examples of the sort of thing I was talking about:
https://thepostmillennial.com/6-portland-antifa-militants-federally-charged-over-attacks-at-ice-facility
Some of these charges strike me as more warranted than others, but a lot of it just seems petty. (Especially the charges against Miss Weed, described near the end of the article.)
I’m with Jeffrey Zoar about this – the degree of injury is irrelevant – what must stop is the resistance of illegal aliens. It never crossed my mind to ‘protest’ or ‘demonstrate’ in any of the countries I lived – I was a guest (whether private or official). It was not my business how they conducted their business, because it was not my country. Whether they be mestizos or jews or muslims or pajeets, they all feel entitled to live wherever they choose and behave however they’d like. That’s because the origins of the phrase “When in Rome . .… Read more »
The wogs expect to live howsoever they dam’ well please because limpwristed whites refuse to say boo to them.
In many nations, even “democracies”, a foreigner involving himself in domestic politics in any way, shape or form is a quick ticket to deportation.
ANY resistance must cease immediately. Absolutely right.
What a bunch of mincing pansies Americans are. You go wandering around the world without papers in somebody’s country, and start getting pushy or just mouthy, they’ll crack your head open for you.
Joke of a nation.
Yup. What I was thinking also.
People close their eyes and imagine ICE, the FBI, the Justice Department, the NSA etc. are staffed by middle-aged white men with serious faces and decades of experience.
Mebbe in 1970 . . . .
We must assume that ICE, like everything else, long has been corrupted by the endless entries of homos, transvestites, feminists (women), and borderline-pathological powerjunkies.
The incompetent arresting the illegal. Should go real smooth I expect. /s
Your assumption is 100% correct.
It’s irrelevant how much they were or weren’t injured. All resistance to immigration enforcement must be crushed
Oh, I agree, resistance to immigration enforcement must be put down. I’m very much in favor or charging them with obstruction of justice, aiding and abetting, rioting, racketeering, insurrection, treason, etc. Charges that I think have more teeth and are less likely to gain them any sympathy from people who are still on the fence.
But we’ve come a long way from the assertion that ICE agents have been “brutalized”, haven’t we, when the argument is that the severity or extent of their injuries is “irrelevant”?
Forget the tanks, flame throwers work much better.
We are going to need more trash compactors.
. . . and woodchippers. You can never have enough compactors or chippers.
Israel is dependent on 5 desalination plants.
Iran could end the war in a week.
https://www.chunkerowaterplant.com/news/water-desalination-company-israel
Dimona is in the wings warming up
They could, but they don’t
Donald was hired to clean up New Amerika, to change the present woke-fem domestic agenda to something resembling sanity and tradition. I got ninety days of (mild) paperwork-strikes on rad-Prog funding sources, and then nada. The honcho of DOGE — about the only pro-American element I saw operating — walked away and called Le ‘Orange a dweeb. The cancer is in OUR body, it’s not Out There Somewhere. The war is inside the U.S., not in Iran or Yemen or the Trobriand Islands. This distraction and dodge to the ME tells me that Donald and his administration do not have… Read more »
That pretty well sums it up.
Prior to the MAGA stuff, Trump was a liberal NY billionaire with a dodgy business record and a scandalous personal life. He recognized that the standard GOP politician had lost touch with the concerns of the typical voter and that the country was in obvious decline. Hence, MAGA. He rode MAGA to the White House but it was more of a satisfaction for his ego rather than a steely determination to crush the forces ruining the nation and reverse the decline. The usual suspects worked him in his first term and are doing so now. That little burst of energy… Read more »
Sorry to bust your chops but you seem to be laboring under the fundamental misunderstanding that it was the American people who hired “the Donald”. It was NOT
“The only way out is to end the Israel lobby and that means tanks in the streets.” How would tanks in the streets curb the power of the Israel lobby? The chosen ones have possession of the commanding heights of finance, media, politics, and academia. The rubes live out in Dogdick, Arkansas. Once Trump got into office he criminalized any support for Gaza as “antisemitic.” He deported any foreign students supporting Gaza and successfully threatened any university allowing free speech (which is also antisemitic). He is best buddies with the Zionist elite. He is not the Fuhrer, who had a… Read more »
The only thing President TACO doesn’t cuck out on is swallowing Jewish dick. Tariffs, no more wars, you name it, Trump will cuck unless it has to do with the people wearing beanies.
At this point trying to act like Trump isn’t doing this stuff of his own volition is just intentional blindness. MIGA started out as a joke but clearly the Trump administration really believes it.
OFFICIAL STATE DEPT. TRANSCRIPT OF MEETING BETWEEN TRUMP AND NETANYAHU:
Netanyahu: “Oh, Donald… Oh, Don… Oh, careful, no teeth…”
Trump: “Gurgle, gurgle… slop, lick…”
Netanyahu: “Deeper, Donald… all the way…”
Trump: “Gag… slurp… gag..”
What, you guys don’t see what the true nature of the U.S.-Israel relationship is?
OK, how ’bout this one, then:
“Oh, yes, Massa Bibi… Ol’ Donald he pick yo’ cotton, sho’ enough… yassa, Boss… Ol’ Donald, he step ‘n fetch it right quick now, Massa…”
A bit less coarse.
I’ll allow it!
the new MAGA- Make Anti-Semitism Great Again
It depends on who is driving the tanks and who the tanks are shooting at.
Christopher Bjerknes suggested that the expulsion and deportation of the students protesting for Gaza was likely an attempt to prevent them from organizing protests and promoting solidarity in the US Muslim community once war was started with Iran.
There are probably many reasons he did that but he may have been planning war with Iran from the beginning.
At the Republican Convention a big Israel flag was placed on the stage with “Israel #1” above it. Yes I think we can safely say that one of the deals Trump made to be allowed to take office was to promise to take out Iran.
I agree… we cannot let rogue terrorist states in the Middle East have nuclear weapons!
…So when do we bomb Israel???
I still held out some hope that Trump would do the right thing and just back away from this honey badger. Him getting up and bragging about us taking the lead was just completely depressing. We have absolutely no autonomy and are getting dog walked by a foreign power. It should be blatantly obvious to anyone paying attention and while there’s a lot of push back, there’s still too many from our side who think this is just a game. “We’re not at war” I’ve heard. As if war is something you get to decide you’re not in or not… Read more »
Trump seems to have about the same ability to think ahead as all those blacks in bodycam videos who yell “WHY YOU PULL ME OVER FOR? WHY YOU PULL ME OVER FOR?”
Somebody needs to ask Trump how he would feel if he hadn’t eaten breakfast that day.
Indeed. It also need to be pointed out to him that the prospects for those proposed Gaza beach front resorts look better every day.
Oy, reality is so antisemitic!
Excellent analysis as usual. But about this: “Some sort of mass psychosis has swept the ruling class where they are convinced that their purpose in life is to serve the needs of this flyspeck of a country halfway around the world.” There is what I’ll just call “the Money Power” that rules the world. Its home and HQ is “The City” (of London), and it has its hangers-on around the world, the two main ones being Paris and Wall Street. The State of Israel was established by that Money Power to gain a permanent foothold in the region and to… Read more »
BRILLIANT. Even though you briefly touched on it, the results of the attempt to dismantle and rape Russia have been total failure thus far. I can see the same outcome with the attempt on Iran, but granted it is not at all certain. It will be interesting to see what follows when Israel is directly attacked by major powers, because that is coming unless the City of London gives a stand down order soon..
Stellar comment, man.
Thanks for your generous words, but I just cobbled my opinions together based on the thoughts of other people, this one being one of the foremost:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vxNVLC8EE8
And this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng0RawU8s98&t=632s
And yes, the current president of Iran IS a Turk:
Pezeshkian was born in Mahabad, West Azerbaijan, on 29 September 1954[3] to Iranian Azerbaijani parents.[4][5] Pezeshkian considers himself and his parents to be Turks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masoud_Pezeshkian
You know, now that I come to think about it, somebody (Col. Macgregor?) has pointed out that the Iranian gov’t long ago divided Iran up into 50-odd independently functioning military regions so that in the event of an invasion or protracted bombing campaign, every one of the regions could function without resorting to the central state apparatus, thus turning that vast country into 50-odd different regions, each and every one of which would have to be conquered and then OCCUPIED by an enemy power. So you are right: Iran is not going to be conquered by the treacherous Mssrs Trump… Read more »
The core population of Persians is barely a majority, from memory. Decentralization was as much a necessity as a choice, and, yes, it works in Iran’s favor.
The powers that be have been so far fortunate beyond their wildest dreams in having an enemy like Iran. Their leadership is even more incompetent than our own, if that is even possible. The question is will Iran compensate, improvise and overcome? The U.S. and Israel had better hope not.
See my post just above, in which I say that the Iranian gov’t long ago divided the country into 50-odd regions to make conquest impossible
I don’t think clown world is planning an invasion/conquest of that type. They don’t have the troops to do that. They might have been looking at having their ISIS types wage a kind of civil war but with what you have pointed out that looks like it would be pretty difficult.
Like normal clown world has probably bitten off more that it can chew. They just don’t know it yet.
The new MO is simply to demolish and destroy as much as possible and then slink away and let Country X deal with the rubble. The problem for Israel is that Iran also can do the same even if to a lesser degree.
The leadership of Burkina Faso isn’t more incompetent than AINO’s.
Can you even tell them apart?
Ha! Well, BF’s leadership has no fags or trannies. I’ll give ’em points for that.
Has anyone else noted that the Iran bombing was timed so it didn’t disrupt the markets AND it provided perfect Sunday morning fodder for various pastors and priests?
Gold and silver barely flinched either which is very strange.
I just checked the chart for Oil going back a year. Yes, it jumped quite a bit during the recent excitement. Nevertheless, even its recent peak is below spot as recently as late January, to say nothing of much of 2024. You probably can’t find a more Mideast-sensitive commodity, and what the chart says is that the latest missile trading is not a real big deal.
Oh did I mention it’s dropped about 9% just today?
Naturally, the Jews are monetizing this… the Tel Aviv stock index hit record highs after the bombing:
Tel Aviv shares hit record highs after US strikes Iran nuclear sites | Reuters
“If the Trump people had a realistic understanding of Israel and the Israel lobby, they would know they are dealing with hostile aliens who look at the United States as a Walmart during a ghetto riot. They would know how to treat them as adversaries, rather than allies or clients.” Jews, not all but most, divide sapient humanity into 3 categories. First, their own kind, for whom there is an almost ritualized high-trust code of conduct for interaction. Second, obedient and decorous slaves who have bent the knee/kissed the Wailing Wall. These can continue to exist as long as they… Read more »
Excellent summation.
Bernie Madoff violated the code by scamming Jews as well as the goyim. Greed overcame ethnic loyalty.
This morning the stock mkt is up and oil
is down. Tells you everything you need to know about what happened over the weekend. The whole air strike on Iran was a charade. Shock and awe? How about shuck and jive.
That’s exactly what I was saying last week. Usually, if someone farts over there gas prices spike, but gas prices barely moved after Israel’s attack? Or at least they didn’t move for a few days. That told me this whole thing was fake and gay.
Too early to know, really. War is good for the MIC. Plus all the second-order, MIC adjacent businesses. Give that a few days for the dust to settle and see what was real and what was not even coat-tails.
Oil is not terribly surprising. China will insist the Straits of Hormuz remain open. Not only do they get an obscene amount of oil from there, but they own a super-majority of the gas fields. Keep the Straits open or Chinese arms stop flowing into Iran.
Brian Berletic on his website The New Atlas makes an interesting case that it is not Israel that is forcing Trump’s hand, but rather Israel is the proxy for the US deep state that seeks to eliminate Iran as a way to weaken China and eventually turn back to regime change in Russia. I’m not fully convinced, because I think he underestimates the considerable role of Jewish influence in the United States, but his point of view is worth considering.
US Strikes Iran in Dangerous Act of War Following US-Enabled Israeli Attacks
It can be instructive to bear in mind that it can be a long game being played.
Do we really think the Blob is temperamentally suited to playing the long game? This is a nation that lives by text messages and memes. It has the attention span of a stink bug. When I think long game I think China and Russia, not the infants of the Blackberry Fruitcake Empire.
Not at all. The Blob IS the Left, and its impulsivity is its Achilles Heel and main vulnerability. In fact, that makes it difficult for them to attain and retain power. Unfortunately, it also makes them cavalier about nuclear war and importation of savages, which affects us all.
Berletic is really good, but there are times he gets way too pro-China for my taste.He is totally on point regarding the importance of reading the policy papers emanating from certain think tanks.
I’m pretty pro-PRC and I think Berletic deliberately puts the arrow of causality ass-backwards because Third-Worldism and bloviating about US Imperialism are what his Chinese and Russian paymasters want him to be messaging.
Russian and PRC ruling classes strictly stick to the First Rule of JQ Fight Club because little upside for them to do otherwise and some old idealogical pieties need to be observed for public consumption.
Agree his nitty gritty research is worthwhile.
if the U.S. is using Israel, why the massive lobby and Epstein trying to get dirt on politicians? I like Berletic, but I think he’s wrong on this one.
Every pro-israel globalist shithead in the world want us to fight a war with Iran for their benefit.
It seems Trump has settled back into his first term habit of just doing whatever retarded things his handlers tell him & then going on twitter to boomer post about how amazing it is that he’s stabbing his base in the back.
At this point the less I know about what he’s up to the better. I had enough of his flip flopping that always somehow ends in favor of maintaining the status quo from his first term. Now that he’s back at it I’m just plugging my ears & reminding myself that at least kamala isnt in office.
If the Iranians are smart, they will try to keep this between them and the Israelis. They may actually be able to win a war of attrition, provided the Chinese and Russians keep them stocked with missiles. Trump will have some difficulty authorizing more strikes without a direct causus belli. In this environment, even a false flag might be recognized as such.
Abetted by the fact that perhaps this one strike was Orange Mandela’s show of force, and now volte-face, and let the chips fall where they may.
Right. And that is why they would be foolish to close the Straits. Threaten, maybe, but not do it. China has too much at stake. The Chinese arms would stop flowing if the oil and gas (something like 75% Chinese-owned) did.
We are told simultaneously that Iran is a suicidal death cult of irrational freaks who do not value life and they are also, at the exact same time, Iran is full of rational, sober-minded who value their lives too much to retaliate against the USA. Make it make sense! The only way the cancer gets cut out is if Trump tells the Israelis and the neocons “no”. We now know that Trump is not willing to do this, which means that they are the ones in charge. They want us in a war with Iran so they are going to… Read more »
They also told us Iran was weeks away from a nuke, but they had no concern that bombing their nuke sites would release radiation.
Yup, that’s nagged me forever. But, then again, I’m no nucular scientist and I haven’t traveled in a long while.
They destroyed the processing centers, AFTER truckloads presumed to be the radioactives were removed.
Kayfabe. The Iranians were allegedly opposed to developing weapons, and if so, the destruction of the centrifuges to make weapons wouldn’t have meant much to them.
Trump is a busted flush and isn’t worth discussing any longer. Ukraine consumed so much of the west’s ordnance it is no longer possible to keep Israel going regardless of whether we want to or not. And what remains is known to be inferior to what Russia is producing (in prodigious amounts). The near future is very clear, regarding the US. The national debt is reneged on, the USD loses reserve status, the global empire implodes and collapses, most of the immigrants (legal or illegal) leave, and the federal government collapses. This leaves individual states, and corporations to sort things… Read more »
May it be so.
Indeed. But Trump fished the Rubicon a few years ago and decided it wouldn’t work. The only thing that mattered then and now is whether he has the guns to pull it off. And the guts.
The answer there is obvious.
The internal dynamics of the U.S. are locked up, as you say, under the current system. So it implies someone comes along who breaks those rules somewhat, who was what Trump was supposed to be. He seems to have no way forward, and a successor faces the same structural resistance. Part of the impasse might change if Iran manages in a few weeks to destroy a couple of hundred of the most important infrastructure elements in Israel, making it nonviable. I think that was Iran’s strategic plan all along, and looks possible. A collapsed Israel, with refugees streaming out looking… Read more »
“The war in Ukraine is in its fourth year because no one in the West could bother to ask the question, much less answer it.” or, maybe they did ask the Q and did answer and liked the answer. How long can we make this war last and how much money can we make by perpetuating it? The “what next” Q: Not only what next, but what about a cost benefit analysis? It would be wonderful if I put $100,000 down on Seabisquit in the third at Belmont and I won, but what if I lose? What if I lose… Read more »
“Let them eat cake” would be Trump’s reply.
Anyone care to throw out the number of billions of dollars we will be giving for the rebuilding of Tel Aviv and Haifa? I am guessing $500 billion over the next two years.
Yosemite, Sequoia, Grand Teton, and Yellowstone national parks might cover it. A sell/ lease back agreement on the Capitol and Arlington National Cemetery should be on the table, too, if needed. The Statue of Liberty with its sacred poem is not for sale
Everything rebuilt will have a Trump logo in gold. lol
If Trump really was the chaos agent many people claim he is, he might well sever diplomatic relations with Israel, shutter the respective embassies, and expel all Jewish non-citizens (particularly Israelis) from AINO. This would be the ultimate in rebellion. Almost to the level of reestablishing Jim Crow. Both maneuvers would be necessary for recuperating America from the current ruins. Both are as far from possible as traveling to Betelgeuse on a unicycle.
“If the Trump people had a realistic understanding of Israel and the Israel lobby, they would know they are dealing with hostile aliens who look at the United States as a Walmart during a ghetto riot.” Now that is a great phrase that sums up modern American society. 2nd order thinking is no longer American or White sad to say. It also infects corporations. The rule in a Corp is “good idea boss!” if you ask what if something doesn’t work, you are a can’t do, not a can do, person. Once you get that perception of you, your career… Read more »
Then what? Russia will win in Ukraine. A lot of very pissed off former Ukrainian military will be unemployed. Many of them will be highly skilled at building and operating combat drones. The people that wrought the destruction of their country are not to be found in Moscow, but elsewhere. Betrayal is bitch. May we wish them Godspeed in their quest for justice.
I was hoping I was wrong, but when Trump was reelected, many thought he could go balls to the wall with his agendas without worrying about blowback from the usual suspects sabotaging re-election efforts. But now I’m wondering if the support of the voters, especially his base are less relevant for him than embracing or at least being less combative with the swamp. He’ll be out of office in 4 years regardless, but the Flimsey Grahams, Mitch McConnell clones, as well as the Hannity’s and Levin’s will still be in place. The NY Post had the headline: “Trump’s ‘spectacular’ Iran… Read more »
AIPAC should be designated the foreign agents that they are and their U.S. operations closed down. Any politician who then takes their bribes should then be subject to long prison sentences.
The criminal enterprises that Israel runs like the Epstein Mossad operation should be investigated and all of the actors put in prison. Obviously this is impossible in the current reality.
Like the Z man says. Tanks in the streets. The more I say it the better it sounds. I think Trump would be surprised at the support he would have for taking down the Israel lobby.
The thing about Gordian knot solution, it requires balls. In what vise are the balls of the father who married his daughter out to that tribe?!
(Including, putting her through very serious process called ‘Giur’. In case you didn’t know, her name is now Yael.)
Importantly, he put his balls in that vise himself, gladly.
It is absolutely bewildering to me that anyone here expected different outcome.
from immaculate source of truth, Wikipedia, on presidential daughter Yael Kushner: <<Raised as a Presbyterian Christian,[218] Trump converted to Orthodox Judaism in July 2009,[219][220] after studying with Elie Weinstock from the Modern OrthodoxRamaz School.[221] Trump took the Hebrew name “Yael” (Hebrew: יָעֵל, lit. ”mountain goat’ or ibex‘).[222][223] She describes her conversion as an “amazing and beautiful journey” which her father supported “from day one”, adding that he has “tremendous respect” for the Jewish faith.[224] She attests to keeping a kosher diet and observing the Jewish Sabbath, saying in 2015: “We’re pretty observant… It’s been such a great life decision for me…… Read more »
Well, I just hacked up a load of guam. Thank you very much!
The Israel/U.S. relationship reminds me of the Master/Blaster character in the movie Thunderdome, Israel being the Master.
It now appears that the attack on Iran this past weekend was part of an elaborate charade intended to create a face-saving mechanism for ending the attrition war with Israel. The US and Iran agreed to exchange fake attacks on each other in order to mollify public opinion in both countries and motivate Netanyahu to capitulate to a JCPOA 2.0. The latter is now being tabled in the Israeli press. God help us, but this appears to have been a 3D chess move by the Trumpster. If so, Netanyahu will not survive this, and the regime change will have occurred… Read more »
The only way this could be true is if Ivanka wants her husband as the new leader of Israel.
Otherwise, ‘we’ll see’ as Trump likes to say, but CMON how many times, what will it take, seeing rounds of American soldiers coming home missing limbs or with burnt faces that make you want to recoil in horror? Do we have to see that again first before we start thinking 3d chess is, as they say, cope? Even then, would it matter I guess.
If they were a family it would be called “enabling”..
Over the weekend, a whole lotta very intelligent kkk0mmentators came to the conclusion that the Fordow bombing was a LARP [a Live Action Role Play], to make it look as though Netanyahu were in charge of global strategery, when, in fact, Trump ordered the Iranians to empty the Fordow facility and move the equipment to a safe haven [as a face-saving measure for everyone involved]. I.e. EVERYTHING now appears to have been a tail wagging a dawg. I’m now even wondering whether Netanyahu himself is LARPing his own role in this melodrama, so that the idiot mizrahim, God bless their… Read more »
The lack of Iranian response allows no other conclusion. While the exact nature of the LARP can only be guessed, at the very least they are lying down and taking it. They should have no fear of a ground invasion to stop them from retaliating with strikes at US bases in the region, but evidently all they can do is shoot at apt buildings in Tel Aviv. Reminiscent of Saddam. As if the same playbook is being rerun. The vote by their parliament to close Hormuz appears as more performative theater, similar to the kayfabe in which our Congress often… Read more »
If reports are to be believed, not a single SAM was launched at US aircraft. This is another indicator that this is all just maintaining kayfabe for the marks.I mean, Iran had clear indications of what sites were going to be hit and a fairly defined window when they would be hit.It’s hard to believe they couldn’t concentrate their air defenses on those locations – radar, missiles, and rotating fighter patrols – for a deterrent effect.I’ve seen the impact photos of Fordow and they could easily br Photoshopped.If any real damage had been inflicted the entire MSM would have it… Read more »
I’m thinking the only “sleeper cells” we need to worry about are Mexicans
Why do you hate siestas?
I commented to my wife that all our bases and ships in the ME are in range of Iranian missiles and there would be Hell to pay if they responded with a missile attack. The fact that they have not (so far) is telling.
Just because Israel wants to draw the US (deeper) into this war is no reason for Iran to want the same. Their hesitation is rational.
Fortunately I didn’t have to learn them firsthand, but I recall that one of Murphy’s Laws of Combat is “If the enemy is within range, so are you.”
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Iran said its missile attack on Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar matched the number of bombs dropped by the United States on Iranian nuclear sites this weekend, signaling Iran’s likely desire to deescalate. Iran made the announcement Monday night in a statement from its Supreme National Security Council after the attack, which Qatar said caused no injuries.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4324843/posts
There is no way this reported Iranian strike on Qatar could be characterized as robust. Either they are weak/impotent, or they are playing a role. Or both.
As degraded as US military capability is, we still have the capacity to make life utterly miserable for Iran as long as we want to. Other commenters have written about how a country the size of Israel can’t stand up to a country the size of Iran over the long term, even if Israel has better technology. Well, the same thing applies to Iran vs. the US. Even if they are capable of making a much more devastating strike, and it is certain they can, what would be the long term cost for them of such a maneuver? The US… Read more »
Vizzini is on the right track here. Iranian leadership is a lot more sophisticated and prudent than the war propaganda has lead us to believe. Russia and Iran are playing a long diplomatic game where Iran becomes the hero of the UN in exchange for nuclear protection and sanctions relief. Whether those are possible for the parties remains to be seen, but the nuclear protection from Russia for Iran would be an extremely strict and limited treaty to prevent Israel and America from deploying nuclear weapons against Iran. Iran will then be able to avoid building a nuclear weapon themselves… Read more »
Jeffrey Zoar: “…or they are playing a role…“ I don’t see any other explanation. This is “virtual” war now; where pyrotechnics are used not to physically eradicate populations, but rather to PSYCHOLOGICALLY CONDITION populations. My guess is that the Oligarchs are now highly confident that their Psy-Ops are vastly more powerful [and vastly moar PROFITABLE] than could be any of the Old School kinetic warfare operations. Why risk actual tangible Nukular Armageddon if you can simply stage a theatrical display which will fool 98% of the population into believing that an actual physical kinetic war was actually fought and won?… Read more »
Much of the early claims of damage seem dubious. Given that, at best, we might have civilian satellite imaging, precisely how are we to assess alleged damage that is done by a munitions designed to penetrate deeply below ground? I suspect a like skeptic’s case can be made for the cruise missile attacks at other targets. In other press I saw (claimed) satellite images of trucks presumably evacuating equipment from Fordow in days or hours prior to the Saturday attack. I’m not “in the industry” (e.g. spying) but those photos seem well within the reach of what is commercially available.… Read more »
Your analysis is supported by the cease-fire that’s already been announced by Trump.
Did we just witness the latest episode of Kabuki Theatre?
P.S. The CEO of the Obama Foundation is longtime family ally Valerie ‘Death Pixie’ Jarrett, who was born in Iran. Damn shame she didn’t stay there.
“Vigilant Fox” has an excellent summary of “Fordow as Face-Saving LARP”:
https://www.vigilantfox.com/p/emerging-theory-suggests-trump-and
The only thing I would add is that it feels as though Netanyahu were also in on the LARP, which, if true, would make the entire fiasco orders of magnitude moar cynical.
Fortunately, we still don’t have any boots on the ground, and we still haven’t lost any air craft carriers…
Maybe there’s something to be said for Face-Saving LARPs?
What if worldwide citizenry were mesmerized & hypnotized into embracing the LARP as being even more real than Reality itself?
George Orwell toyed with that idea in “1984”, and Star Trek revived it in the episode, “A Taste of Armageddon”, where humans were dying in wars which didn’t ackshually exist.
“A Taste of Armageddon”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Taste_of_Armageddon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8-I9nRAnDk
There is a case for that to be made. Trump did exactly that in his first term.
Here’s a particularly damning Data Point:
Report: Israel Sends Message to Iran That War Is Nearing End https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4324857/posts
“Israel has sent messages to Iran that Jerusalem is aiming for the air and missile war between the sides to end in days, Channel 12 reports.”
How can anyone read that sentence and not come to the conclusion that the entire dadgum spectacle is nothing but a LARP?!?!?
It’s been completely choreographed.
It’s a stage production.
History’s Greatest Genius has come around to the idea that it’s all fake:
More Kabuki
https://voxday.net/2025/06/23/more-kabuki/
With A.I. generated pseudo-news & A.I. generated pseudo-journalism, we could be looking at a future of near infinite LARPs layered over LARPs layered over LARPs layered over LARPs, dadgum near about forever.
Even the Big Brains might begin to question their own understanding of ackshual tangible boots-on-the-ground meatspace realititty.
At some point, this ambiguity between Reality and Nonsense is gonna induce a terrible psychosis in our species.
[Blessed are the Meek, for They shall inherit the Earth.]
With the sheer volume of slop out there, I feel like this has already happened.
Agreed.
I think that is a huge point, NN. Back when Covid and the Kraine were Current Things… you could get past all the narrative click bait, chattering skulls an talking heads to find reasoned, authoritative and logical info sources that are the lynchpin of dissident politics. once again the jew media is marching in lockstep…but there are no independent voices of reason like their used to be. Maybe I’m articulating this poorly…but everyone involved with this is screaming or emoting to a script. There are no independent voices in either country doing street level interviews. Everything is being decided behind… Read more »
You must admit that fake wars are preferable to real ones.
I reserve judgment.
Yikes. Trump just used the F word
Posted on 24/06/2025, 07:13:38 by nuconvert
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4324957/posts
Outside the WH answering questions from reporters as he was walking toward Marine 1… He called CNN scum and said “we have 2 countries that have been fighting so long & so hard that they don’t know what the f*** they’re doing ”
Needless to say, he’s not happy with Iran, Israel or the msm
He also said CNN should apologize to the B2 pilots for doubting that they did a good job destroying the nuke facilities.
Iran keeps dropping missiles on Israel. What then? How does Israel propose to stop that from happening? It seems Israel has unwittingly signed up for ongoing and endless bombardment.
What a sh**show.
They will probably just nuke Iran and say they had to since our strikes didn’t work. Or they will say Iran nuked themselves maybe. And all the “judeo-christians” will cheer for it and tell us how blessed by God they are now to have seen the skin peeling off of Iranian children as they slowly die in agony and how God loves that, too. And that God also loves them more than you, because you didn’t cheer.
This is not that far-fetched.
Netanyahu is a fanatic who will realize the B-2 bombing was potentially performative and intended to provide an off-ramp for the US.
If Trump or the planners wanted an off-ramp. If not, maybe we didn’t just leave all that equipment to the Taliban, and it’s all built up on Iran’s border on a base they don’t talk about. It does seem like a ridiculous and outrageous thing to have done. Who knows. But no matter what the case may be, we know one thing; the American people are not going to get what they want or vote for. But at least this is happening before they could recruit many more willing soldiers thinking they were working for the USA.
The script is so bloody hilarious. America buys it, again.
If you cannot see this peace deal narrative exposed, nobody can reach your gray matter.
The shame is yours who are normies. Our founders had so much more with which to work and yet they failed in their time too.
Humans will never colonize the stars. Vapid bonobos. Oh well.
The war in Ukraine is in its fourth year because no one in the West could bother to ask the question, much less answer it. The war in Ukraine has been a resounding success for the people in charge. — Neocons get to see their ancestral enemy bled of men and rubles. A “free Ukraine” is the lie they use to sell it to Fox News rubes, and the Ukrainian people are just collateral damage. — More importantly, the political class continues to benefit from donor bucks and kickbacks derived from US aid and military contracts. So long as the… Read more »
The Bomb-and-invade-the-world brigades invaded Conservative Treehouse over the weekend. I took great joy in repeatedly asking them “And then what?” Their reactions went through to roof with rage. They just kept repeating”Iran cannot have nukes,” over and over and over and it was clearly one of those poll tested phrases meant to frighten people into supporting a broader war. (while denying that was their true goal) So, late today Trump announced a cease fire. Who knows if it is real, but my goodness have the Israel Firsters lost their shit. They were 100% convinced we were heading to full on… Read more »
Trump’s move redounds constructively to several domestic and international issues.
The creep of Sharia in Europe, illegal immigration in America, the Ivies’ promiscuous import of militant foreign students, the gradual erosion of Christian nationhood and American military deterrence. All are implicated and clarified and assuaged by Trump’s bold move.
What then? can be asked as readily when inaction is policy as it can be when action is taken. If you ever supported White ethnonationalism, it’s apparent now that you’ve lost the thread
this pst weekend has made me wonder if foreign wars is part of how the us operates and it can’t stop no matter which individuals are plugged into the system. I don’t think it can be stopped
Foreign wars are hugely important because they justify the existence of the MIC. One of the MIC’s key functions is siphoning wealth from taxpayers to the pockets of the people running the MIC.
“It is beyond creepy to see everyone in Washington act like Israel is the god of the world.” At what point do we acknowledge that everything said about the gems in western civs is beyond true, I really would like to talk and think about something else, but they are always a cancer for any civ. Also, the Gordian knot was solved by Alexander when he just cut it loose. If our people have any chance of survival in the next 100 years, such a man must come around.
“The knife has failed, bring forth the torch.” Seems the cry of the age
I’m still not sure Trump has any real control of our military, and it may in fact be operating completely independent of him. We saw this during his first term with the missile strike on Syria and the assassination of that Iranian general.
Publicly he has two choices, reveal how weak he is by admitting he has no power, or take responsibility for the attacks and at least appear to be in charge. Knowing Trump’s ego, it’s plainly obvious which choice he would make.
Folks, I realize we are conditioned to submission and defeat, but this gambit is something new.
The young bulls are pushing the old bulls off the hill, and they have their own way of doing things. We must look for the opportunities that arise.
A couple of thoughts on this post and the prior mentions of the then-potential operation by our host: I think the term “Pearl Harbor style sneak attack” is not appropriate for what has actually happened (other than it captures a certain imagery concerning the mission’s aerial nature). Our host has used this terms several times. It is an effective rhetorical device. Unfortunately, it adds a strong but inaccurate coloring to the operation as conceived and authorized by the Trump administration, and executed by crews and support entities. Trump and his operatives had clearly been warning Iran about what they were planning to… Read more »
Yes sir, soldier. He told ’em 60 days, and on day 61 – FAFO.
Some sort of mass psychosis has swept the ruling class where they are convinced that their purpose in life is to serve the needs of this flyspeck of a country halfway around the world.
If true, and I have no reason to doubt it, the problem is not in the chewish lobby, but in our ruling class. That’s where the solution must lie.
Lots of stuff coming next: Is Trump cracking up? Maybe, based on his erratic behavior. Also note he doesn’t have a friendly team of a few dozen people trying to cover for him. He threw his cabinet under the bus. Probably most important for Vance, who may not have the personal charisma to recover politically. Who has the grapes to relieve Trump? Vance? Hegseth? The guy with the football? Would that be any better? Actually, football guy probably would be an improvement. MAGA is cracked Maybe this gives Elon an opening for his proposed party. Trump has probably lost enough… Read more »
I hope that Russia and China have told Bibi that sending a nuke anywhere would not be in his best interest.
First, let me disagree, so I can then further disagree. Trump is a goddam genius. He walked the tightrope between Scylla and Charybdis, and won. He avoided the trap Bibi set for him. He can reset the neocon policies that have ruined our brand and our nation since 1963. One and Done, no dinking around like Europe or Congress, let Israel handle its mess. Remember, a rightful Prince awaits to replace the regime – they are even talking about him in Japan. That’s what all the wailing sisters are missing. Reza is the Then What. Reza’s not a corrupt neocon/Blackrock… Read more »
Wow, that’s some take. First what gives you the idea that Eza Pahlavi has any support in Iran? Remember, all except the kleptocrats who were stealing Iran blind wanted him out of power. What they got may have been worse, but Pahlavi was pretty terrible. The son has been living off stolen money for over 40 years now and hasn’t made a peep about freeing Iran until now. Who pays the bills for your Iranian podcasters? Remember probably 90% of the dissidents causing trouble in Iran are in the pay of a foreign intelligence service. Sure, the regime may not… Read more »
I guess it depends on if they see him as someone who will bring pride flags and liberal views and the war goes on, just from a different angle, like what happened in Ukraine evidently. Does he have any dancing in high heels as a ‘comedian’ videos out there?
Thanks, many Indian news services are without doubt in the pay of Iranian intelligence.
Thank you for the schizo-post Alzaebo, I see your medication went unused this morning.
I went all organic.
Got a good connection to some righteous Peruvian shamans.
Thanks for your vision Alzaebo.
I’ll only add that, Trump is, first and foremost, a mask puller.
And so, it appears now that Iran’s retaliation involves the New York/New Jersey axis of Democrats pulling the Impeachment trigger. They, and the for-hire mobs are the Mullah’s “boots on the ground” in America.
Our domestic enemies are now more exposed than ever! You’d have to be blind not to see the intersection.
Why the smart set at Z’s blog can’t see the wider picture is beyind me. I really thought you all were smarter than this.
A mask puller. Indeed. The Noticing is the only way we’ll break the spell, or we’re doomed. It’s becoming a low thunder. Casualties will occur.
I just spent a year and a half near prostrate with despair over, well, let’s just call it something that didn’t happen. Enough. They must work out their rage and grief. And thank you for the kind words.
Everybody knows, that the mullahs have got to go. Does that mean war to “topple” the regime? Probably not. The people of Iran could easily clean out the mullahs if they had a little help getting a few of them organized and armed. That’s what needs to happen – it would be better for them, and better for us. It would *not* be better for Blackrock and the big bankers. And that’s the real problem we need to solve. How to cripple our own forever-war machine. Very doubtful that Iran will close off Hormuz, because that would hurt Iran and… Read more »
I don’t think everybody know that. Please explain why they’ve got to go.
You are not good at this.
“You are mentally ill.”
Fixed it for ya.
Premise rejected. Not everybody knows the mullahs must go. Of course you didn’t read the article because it is about second order thinking, which your premise contradicts.
How’s the weather in Tel Aviv?
It’s raining. 😉 Or so we are told.
Who gives a shit about the Mullahs? That is their problem not ours. If you are so concerned about it I suggest you get on a plane and fly to Iran. Maybe pass out some leaflets or something. Let them know you are unhappy with the way they govern their society.
I love this response.
It seems the Iranian people were able to rise up under the “dreaded Shah” and dispose of him and change their government from a monarchy to a theocracy. They should be able to do the same again—if they are so willing. That it has not happened might lend a reasonable person to believe they are not willing. If so, why are we to be involved?
I always wonder how much of “Iranians hate their leaders” thing is legit and how much of it is CIA propaganda. I mean, we live in a country where Congress has an approval rating in single digits yet 90% win re-election every year and we are told that all disapproval of the government is due to bots and Russian misinformation.
Yep, what to believe in a “world of lies”. This is the essence of my attempted general understanding of today’s world. Information received is most automatically assumed to have a high probability of being simply a lie, or more generously, a supposition not supported by known facts. So my “go to” is always to use skepticism and logic to see through this “fog”. Example, Trump says we’ve eliminated Iran’s nuke program—“mission accomplished!” I think, really? The main site in question was not attacked for days after threat and visible enemy movement to gear up to attack it. So the Iranian… Read more »
Never in history has a trusty Bullshit Detector been such an indispensible personal possession.
The streamers are sarcastically calling it, “yeah, everything is fake,” due to the sudden jump in AI video realism.
Their answer is, correctly, “so what?” They shrug and move on. The younger ones are adjusting to the current situation.
Every single wog, whether in Tehran, Tegucigalpa or Tripoli is yearning to liberate her inner Kaylee with the piercings, tatts, and green dreads. If only Captain America and Super Jew would link hands and incinerate every mean dictator, that would happen.
LOL. ROTFLMAO. You are so beautiful when you’re angry.
No doubt. The yentas already tried their schtik with the girls and ‘no hair coverings’. Surprisingly, they got a bit of traction, but only in Tehran.
Like one Iranian girl pointed out, when the government shoots the protestors, welp, you don’t protest much.
Abbe Faria: “Rooting China out of America is the next big job”.
Could we slow down a little bit, and first rid America of the Mexicans?
Then rid America of the kneegrowz?
Then rid America of the j00z?
[Maybe not necessarily in that order…]
PS: Probably wanna put the expulsion of the Pajeets up near the top of the list.
[Northern North America, up in Canuckland, is rapidly becoming Pajeet West.]
“Then rid America of the kneegrowz”
For better or worse, they are part of heritage America. They stay in my way of thinking of things. It’s not their fault that a bunch of dumbass farmers were too lazy to do their own work and brought them over.
When I was a youngster I was told that the “kneegrows” (lol!) got their white European surnames from interbreeding with their rapist slave-owners and drivers. Imagine my surprise when I later got curious about the story and learned the truth of the matter through independent reasearch of original source materials. I was told another fairy tale similar to yours about the lazy sonsabitches who brought the kneegrows over to do all their work, but curiosity got the best of me on that one later on too, and wouldn’t you know I discovered that’s another lie straight from the depths of… Read more »
Yes, they were lazy. By definition, buying flesh to do your work for you is laziness. They were lazy and since we’ve been talking about second order consequences, also not smart enough to think it through. Your great, great, great, great granddaddies brought them here and now we’re stuck with them.
We wuz like dem Hebrews in Egypt!
Both things can be true. For most blacks, their heritage in the USA goes back further than it does for many Whites. That said, you’re right, they would not consider themselves Heritage Americans, in fact they hate this country and want no part of it, hence their embrace of things like “the Black National Anthem” (the existence of a “black national anthem” implies the existence of a “black nation”, separate from the USA). So how do you untie this knot, I have no idea. We have a political base that has been drawing power from this contradiction since the 14th… Read more »
Umm, T. Morris wasn’t quite referring to blacks.
Bro.
100% of the Transatlantic chattel slave trade industry was owned by (((You Know Whom))).
In the United States [and likely most of South America], White farmers were completely innocent bystanders, scratching their heads, watching (((YKW))) flood the New World with kneegr0idz.
Haha! Those gosh-dang CCP spies!
No, everybody doesn’t know that. Iranians have a right to pick their own government without a bunch of ziocons doing it for them.
LOL. They have a right to nukes too!
And they have a democracy!
Yes, the people of Iran have a sincere desire for western degeneracy just like the people of Afghanistan did. Getting rid of the mullahs and replacing them with western puppets to push western degeneracy would absolutely hurt the people who push degeneracy in the west, like Blackrock and the big bankers, because it just would, ok?
Everyone yearns for a gay bar and a betting shop on every street corner!
We need to liberate Britain from the mullahs first, and 1984-Orwellian types like Keir Starmer.
Start with the US first,then Canada. Afterwards…
The Iranian people need to sort that out for themselves. I don’t care who rules Iran. Or any country. I don’t care about “human rights” or whatever excuse we use to cause trouble in the world. I’m just so sick of it. We need to sweep behind our own back door step before we take our broom elsewhere. We have at least 60 million illegals in this country who need to be rounded up and shipped back to their country of origin. We have state governments (California, I’m looking at you) in open rebellion. We have much bigger fish to… Read more »
Obviously Trump is your God.
He is our King! And the only reason he visits the Wailing Wall is to show respect- that house used to be where God lived.
It’s part of an old Roman fort.
Dang it, Abbe, you stole my downvotes.
I’m supposed the be the punching bag.
I wouldn’t worry about elections. Those have been canceled.
Our King won’t need any! *wink*