Rebellious Thoughts

Most people reading this will claim that they are not surprised that the people behind the seditious plot to overturn the 2016 election will not face charges. To be on the dissident right requires a degree of cynicism about political institutions. Democracy assumes things about humans that the dissident knows are false. Therefore, a system relying on people to act in a way that is against their nature is doomed to fail. That and the people attracted to democratic politics are always the worst society has to offer.

No matter how clear-eyed you are about the nature of man, politicians always have the ability to disappoint even the most cynical. If most people on this side of the great divide are being honest, they are let down by the news that the oleaginous James Comey will escape justice for his crimes. There was that flicker of hope that William Barr would not be another slithering reptile and do the right thing. Again, these people always have the ability to disappoint even the most jaded among us.

The thing is, there has always been a sense that these people operate by a different set of rules than the rest of us. It’s such an overused trope that when you see a James Comey type of character in a movie, they seem one-dimensional. They’re just the stock bureaucratic bad guy everyone knows how to hate. The same is true of the duplicitous villain like Bill Barr. In movies, that’s the guy the hero foolishly trusts, only to learn that he is more villainous than the James Comey character.

That said, the reason that most people have been holding out hope that this seditious plot would be prosecuted is they don’t really believe everyone in the ruling class is a villainous gangster. Again, even the jaded on this side of the divide thought something would come from this caper, even if it was just the release of a documents showing there was a plot. Maybe a few low-level punks like Lisa Page and Peter Strzok would get a show trial and be sent off to Club Fed for a few years.

It is increasingly clear, that nothing will happen. Bill Barr is just the latest flim-flam man to bamboozle Donald Trump into trusting him. It is clear now that his assignment is to cover up the crimes of official Washington. It has been six months since he was authorized to start releasing the classified documents describing the actions of the FBI during this caper. So far, nothing has been released. In fact, Bill Barr is fighting public disclosure of documents a federal judge ordered released months ago.

The path to revolution starts with dissatisfaction. The people are unhappy with their lot and begin to demand changes. At first, they appeal to their rulers, who they assume want to do a good job as rulers. When that fails, they begin to demand their rulers make reforms and address their concerns. At some point, the people realize they cannot appeal to the humanity or the pragmatism of their rulers. Reform will never come, so the last two options are knuckle under or revolt against the system and it rulers.

There seems to be a scale along which people move from pacified to rebellious that is determined by their view of their rulers. At the pacified end, they are happy with how things are going in their personal lives and assume it is in everyone’s interest to make the system work. The rulers benefit from a happy populace, so even if they indifferent to the people, they work to make them happy. The system of rules and the people operating the system are working about as well as possible, so there is peace.

At the other end is where people no longer believe the system is just and that the people ruling over it are beyond appeals to reason and humanity. In fact, the people in charge relish the injustice of the system, maybe taking extra measures to inflict chaos and mayhem on the people. The system is so bad and the condition so intolerable, it is assumed that anything must be better. At this end, the people no longer view their rulers as human men. They are just the face of an evil system.

As Bill Barr slowly and efficiently covers up the seditious plot and other crimes committed by the FBI and DOJ during the Obama years, it is not unreasonable to wonder how far down the scale this moves the political center. Twenty-five years ago, most dissidents would have thought this level of corruption was improbable, if not entirely impossible. The typical normie was still sure the next election would bring reformers, who would chase off the crooks and clean up the system.

It’s hard to gauge these things, because our biases come into play. If you are an accelerationist, for example, the Comey result is good news. You want to think that this moves everyone closer to the “burn baby burn” camp. If you are a Trump-truster, you probably just tune this stuff out, as it contradicts your preferred narrative. Maybe you convince yourself that letting Comey walk is part of some super-secret 4-D chess game Trump and Barr are playing to entrap the deep state in their web.

The likely answer right now is most normal white people are a bit shocked by what is happening, unable to process it. It’s one thing to overindulge in negativity and self-pity, calling the pols a bunch of crooks. That’s just a coping strategy. It is another thing to realize that it really is hopeless and the system is beyond redemption. It’s like that moment when you decide to find a new job or change careers. Nothing changes on the outside, but inside there is a revolution in your thinking and outlook.

That probably explains why the ruling classes in revolutionary times make so many costly blunders. In retrospect, it is baffling, but in the moment the people in charge look out and see nothing but calm. They conclude that things are going well enough that they don’t have to change course. Maybe that’s why Barr is working hard to cover up the crime and corruption. He thinks once the whole thing is dispensed with, it will no longer vex people. Trust in the system will slowly return.

Again, it is hard to gauge these things in the moment. One thing we know is that dissident ranks are growing. Even the Left is admitting it. The popularity of dissident sites, podcasts and video shows are at record highs. More important, the general sense within dissident ranks is that reform is impossible. We not only need a new ruling class, we need a new system. The center of gravity for the opposition to the status quo is moving further down that scale toward rebellion.

That said, it is becoming increasingly difficult for the civic nationalist to operate in anything but a fantasy world. Whatever you may think of Trump, the result of the last three years is proof that elections don’t matter. This shameless refusal by public officials to apply the law to Washington insiders makes a mockery of the rule of law. Throw in the stunning dishonesty of the mass media and the metastasizing surveillance state and it is impossible for even the most gullible to remain a civic nationalist.

Even accounting for all the various biases, a sober minded view of things suggests we are rapidly heading to that place where the people are faced with two choices. It’s either knuckle under and surrender any sense of dignity or revolt against a system that is beyond reform. Maybe like that guy in the cubicle who decided to quit, that’s where everyone is right now. Or, maybe most people are like the other guy, resigned to a life as a cubicle slave. Events suggest we will find out sooner, rather than later.


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TomA
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I would argue that we have both passed the tipping point and the straw that breaks the camels back is very near. Barr has now put the last nail in the coffin of the corpse of the Rule of Law and sanctified the DC Double Standard. Murder is now officially sanctioned (hello Seth Rich and the execrable Epstein). Can detention camps for dissidents be far off? No one will trust any Fed now for generations to come. That is a pretty steep price to pay for the honor of wiping Comey’s ass clean.

Dorcas
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Dorcas

Oh, no, no, no. The white hats are just waiting for the right moment, dotting their i’s and crossing their t’s. It’s coming any day now. How can a man who plays the bagpipes let us down?

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

What’s holding things back right now is that most people are employed (underpaid, but still working) and can put a roof (maybe not as nice as the one they grew up under) over their heads.

The next time this isn’t the case is when that giant lake of cynicism building up behind the dam of corruption is going to wash downstream.

Ayatollah Rockandrollah
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In parts of a northeast state — I won’t say which — there are moderately-sized numbers of people already living in the woods. It’s tough in the winter, but they’re out there. All that’s keeping my own state going is the absurd housing market near the water. It’s like watching drunk people at a casino at 2 a.m., tossing down hundreds. There’s no tomorrow. They’re going all in now. I’m guessing we’ll have people living on the side of Route 95 down in the Jersey-Philly corridor in a few years. We are absolutely heading toward Camp Life. It’s utterly incredible… Read more »

Karl McHungus
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Karl McHungus

California is already way into camp life. Huge camps of homeless are everywhere along the coast. And no one in power is doing a thing about it. SF, LA, Seattle are all essentially giant camps of homeless now, with normies imprisoned within their homes — for now. The crazy left is already talking of making people with extra space take in crazies.

Sven
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Sven

How are they going to enforce that? There are 78,500 sworn law-enforcement officers in the state of California. Verses well over 30 million people. Good luck.

Calsdad
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Calsdad

They could just pass squatter laws – like I’ve read they have in Britain. Do some searching on the interwebs , there are stories out there of people going on holiday for a few weeks – only to return and find a bunch of squatters living in their home. All their possessions have long since disappeared into a dumpster. When they true home owners complain to the “authorities” – they just simply refuse to do anything and cite squatting laws or some such BS. I remember reading these stories a few years back – so the details may be hazy.… Read more »

TheLastStand
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TheLastStand

The pattern for right wing governments taking power is clear. People will support the current system as long as the grocery stores are stocked and the lights stay on. When the system can no longer accomplish this, then the nationalists can take power.

Keep your powder dry, do not do anything stupid, and red pill our people.

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

>>>When the system can no longer accomplish this, then the nationalists can take power.<<<

Very true. Also, we’re not getting to Pinochet without enduring Allende first.

Compsci
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Compsci

Allende arrives if most any of the hopeful Dem presidential nominees is successful in 2020. If not 2020, then we have perhaps four years more of preparation time.

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

It’s been suggested that the Dems are intentionally throwing 2020 so they can get an Allende in 2024.

The demographics will certainly be ripe for it.

Rod1963
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Rod1963

Yep, the middle-class is still very comfortable and still believe to a extent that system isn’t rigged against them.

It will only take one serious economic down turn aka: turd sandwich to wake people up. Had the 2008 bailout not have happened we would have had our revolution back then,

This is why TPTB are doing everything to keep the bubble machine going. It gives people the illusion of wealth in terms of home and equities. Should that bubble deflate, so will the peoples patience.

Yves Vannes
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We’ll continue doing what we’ve done since the ’50s…move 1 or 2 more exits further out from the pozz.

Without a real leader we’ll continue avoiding conflict if that’s an option.

Trump wasn’t made of the right stuff.

Until a real caesar does arise we’ll keep moving and worrying only about whether our portfolio is at a tolerable risk level.

TheLastStand
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TheLastStand

We will probably see local leaders arise when the house of cards collapses. I am no Aragorn, but I will protect my version of the Shire.

Member

People definitely need a leader to galvanize them. Trump could have been that guy but had no interest in it. It is doubtful that the elite will let another one arise. Future ones will only be controlled opposition

Lineman
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Lineman

Yea Amen on that Brother…The thing is to be having a system in place and running when the old one falls apart so people have somewhere to turn and will do what they need to so they can be a part of it…

Member

gee…we better get some gun control passed pdq

Citizen of a Silly Country
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Citizen of a Silly Country

Check out this piece from Yahoo news. You can just feel the self righteousness oozing from the writer as she describes the candidates policy proposals to fight white nationalism. You can also feel how she thinks the proposals aren’t even close to what’s needed. These policy proposals are just the beginning, but you can see where they’ll lead: The complete and utter persecution and disarmament of any white who doesn’t grovel to globo-homo. We will be monitored, and we will be taken into custody if we object to our slavery. Very soon, the question will be how whites will react… Read more »

TimNY
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TimNY

Nature magazine has an article on combatting online hate (that would be us, and Good Lord, do these people project…) John Rivers has been excerpting parts of it on gab.
https://gab.com/JohnRivers/posts/102701247287845087

What hits me about the article is just the cold surgical hatred and desire to throw people (us) down the rathole. As is said hereabouts, this will not end well.

NorthGunner
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NorthGunner

Same old communist screeching that commies have been
making since they murdered and raped their way across
Russia and Europe and were then welcomed (via the ‘Frankfurt School’) into America by ‘Frank the Gimp’ Roosevelt and others at
the behest of his owners the Rothschilds.

There has always been ONLY one response/cure to
communism and it’s adherent’s savagery – choose
and apply one’s preferred delivery cartridge accurately
and with repeated consistency until there is no more
communism.

Also never forget that the most cruel and savage communists
were very often the women among them.

NorthGunner – The Truth Is It’s OWN Defnese!

Shrugger
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Shrugger

Try mentally replacing “hate” with “white” or “pro-white” when reading that Nature article…

Gravity Denier
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Gravity Denier

Yahoo, a loser in the Internet shakeout, clings to survival by touching bottom. All that’s left for it is to carve out a piece of the loony-left, anti-white coalition. This Tubman character is their idea of a “reporter”? I don’t have a bagful of admiration for reporters, but the title once meant something, a modest integrity based on at least conveying facts rather than one’s own opinions in a piece. Tubman is wearing a hand-me-down cheap suit that doesn’t fit her.

The Babe
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The Babe

We already have detention camps, namely, the jails where political prisoners such as the RAM guys, are kept.

Member

That Charlottesville kid is definitely a political prisoner.

BadThinker
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BadThinker

To be honest most normies don’t even know who Barr is.

Coyne
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Coyne

BINGO.

Crud Bonemeal
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Crud Bonemeal

Already under Trump the enforcement agencies have been given specific orders to hunt right wingers and anyone who is vaguely pro-white. While they have not yet been empowered to arrest for pure speech, they are devoting significant resources to sifting through Deus Vult meme posts on ifunny, looking for anything that they can classify as a threat or otherwise criminalize. Speech that was normal and obviously protected a few years ago, is now being treated as criminal. Once they find it, they are free to conduct military style raids on that person’s house, confiscate their firearms and haul them away.… Read more »

Outis
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Outis

Barr has done a hell of a lot to help Trump push his agenda forward. Step back and look at the bigger picture.

Further crucifying Comey achieves what exactly?

Compsci
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Compsci

At some point, one needs to win one for show value—aka morale. That’s for the peasants. It might not hurt to set an example to one’s enemies as well. One can only talk of 4D chess strategies for so long… Also, if we are to believe that these cases are being overlooked so as not to be distracted from the “prize”, why do we see so many tweets from Trump often calling for such action, then decrying these events when they “come a cropper”? Outis, nothing would please me more than you being correct and I wrong in this matter.

Outis
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Outis

It’s not hard to come up with examples… the challenge of course is the MSM has filled the world with so much obfuscation that it’s hard to see what’s really happening.

Who helped Trump figure out a way to solve the Census problem?

https://apnews.com/d3455cd57e744af08c5690fe1f0517ae

He has helped with the Wall too. Which is now moving full speed ahead. Much more is likely happening behind the scenes. Do this, not that type of advice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlShQj4c8YI

Quit focusing on the wrong shit and focus on the right shit. Comey is the wrong shit.

Compsci
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Compsci

Census workaround wrt citizenship was arguably a loss. This question has been on other census’s in the past. It essentially recognized the power of the judiciary to “make law” and reverse established precedent on a whim, which has been repeatedly done wrt Executive actions and agencies. The border wall is a success at least until the next presidential turnover. But ultimately must fail in its intent as it doesn’t address the bulk of the problem. Most IA’s do not come across the border from the South. They come via other means, overstayed VISAs, Canada, and such. The real solution is… Read more »

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pour encourager les autres

grandee
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grandee

pour encourager les autres – French quotation from Voltaire

Definition of pour encourage: in order to encourage the others —said ironically of an action (such as an execution) carried out as a warning to others

A.B Prosper
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A.B Prosper

It restores faith in the system and the rule of law. A government can operate for a while by force, terror and taxation but the real currency that keeps things going is legitimacy and we’ve about pissed ours away So far a “this would be much better” ideology hasn’t reared its head, yet but if you look in the distance you can see that freight train on the tracks, Union Atlantic to Pacific “Revolution” and one mistake too many and we are going to get hit by that train And no it doesn’t matter who the conductor is, Left or… Read more »

Karl McHungus
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Karl McHungus

Name one thing. Barr looks to be the new Trey Gowdey, without the closeted homosexuality.

Official Bologna Testet
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Official Bologna Testet

Outis said: ” Further crucifying Comey achieves what exactly?”
I couldn’t agree more. Seeking justice is a big waste of money and time. Not to mention a completely unwarranted embarrassment to our masters. Better to let them openly subvert the constitution, commit numerous felonies, and then spit in our faces and laugh. Those stinking dogs have shown nothing but open, flagrant contempt for the rule of law and the Democratic process. They tryed to install Hillary Cinton into the White House. But as you say. Pursuing the matter would just be mean spirited.

Calsdad
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Calsdad

Just ignoring what has happened with Comey achieves what exactly?

The guy deserves to be in jail – along with a long list of other swamp creatures.

Crucifying Comey achieves what Comey deserves. Pointing out the fact that he has skated from his well deserved fate pounds it into the feeble minded with short memories (like yourself apparently) – that this kind of shit is not going to be forgotten about.

Or forgiven.

With Comey is just means somebody needs to remember to build a taller gallows when the time comes. Because you obviously won’t.

Member

It’s just so much worse than that. These people are evil. They get together and have their satanic black masses and abuse children. At some point it becomes obvious that this is true and it has for me. And that’s what all this sex education for toddlers is, grooming children and corrupting the the parents are anyone that engages in it.. But they don’t think they’re evil because the master they serve tells them they’re not. It’s why they’re attacking Christian Bakers. Does anyone really think Jeffrey Epstein killed himself?

TheLastStand
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TheLastStand

I wonder if he is actually dead. He would be a fool not to have a dead man’s switch.

Nathan
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Nathan

People talk about a “dead man’s switch” but has anyone ever actually had one? Seems like spy movie stuff, not reality.

TheLastStand
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TheLastStand

I learned about the term from Tom Clancy novels. Seems like a good idea though when dealing with volatile material.

BadThinker
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BadThinker

The big problem is that people are lazy and then one day you forget to type 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42 into the apocalypse-preventer.

Rogeru
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Rogeru

Dammit. I knew there was something I was supposed to do today.

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

I’ve been reading Lovecraft lately and it’s clear that the Left is the real-life Cult of Cthulhu. If you’re not familiar with the Octopus-faced Ancient One, his cult of non-whites practiced human sacrifice for the purpose of opening a gateway to another dimension which would bring about untold suffering and an end to civilization.

In the Cthulhu Mythos, a few Whites know the truth and are powerless to do anything about it, which slowly makes them insane. Sound familiar?

BadThinker
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BadThinker

It’s funny to watch the lefties that grew up on Lovecraft slowly coming to the realization that he was a race realist.

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

The kids these days love Cthulhu. Walk into any Hot Topic and you’ll find cute and cuddly versions of the Old One next to the anal sex flag.

Exile
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Exile

Trying to open the gates for the Old Ones is the ultimate “Burn it Down!” Instant inversion of the social order. Revenge of the Nerds on a cosmic scale. We’re the ones who’d rather accept an “unfair” universe of hierarchy, scarcity and impermanence than the false promise of an equalist utopia that, as Z said yesterday, is found only in the grave.

FWIW, Lovecraft and (ex) Libertarianism are two of the most common factors among guys I meet in Our Thing.

Known Fact
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Known Fact

I wasn’t aware the PC Brigade had a Lovecraft award renamed until hearing about the recent similar trashing of sci-fi pioneer John Campbell — because some Asian chick who won the award complained about him

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joe
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joe

“In his Weird Tales classic Lovecraft represents Cthulhu as appealing, through his long-range mesmerism, to people still living at the tribal level of cultural development, to the lower anti-social classes or proletariat, and to the power-seeking but mentally dim, criminal segment of humanity, on a platform of exaggerated resentment. Cthulhu finds that degeneracy provides fertile ground for his agenda. ” “The modern world qualifies as Cthulhuesque in any number of ways. In December of 2017 in San Francisco a “woke” jury acquitted an illegal alien whom prosecutors had accused of randomly and lethally shooting a young woman in the back.… Read more »

Rod1963
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Rod1963

Two thirds of the people polled(as reported by Drudge) do not believe Epstein’s cause of death. When you look at the litany of events surrounds his demise you realize that he was openly murdered by the state. Just like that D.C. madam who was found hanging in her garage in FL some time back.

And people wonder why Lil Kim doesn’t give up his nukes. He saw what happened to Gaddafi tried to play nice, and Syria and now Epstein. There is no way any 3rd world tyrant would trust us.

Stephen Wordsworth
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He was in prison all communications are monitored so any deadman switch could be found. He would need someone on the outside to entrust his switch to but all his friends are scumbags too

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As Z Man says, it is hard to judge while in the moment, but my intuition says things are moving fairly quickly towards some sort of crisis. The trajectory we are on is not sustainable. The astonishing thing is how many people are still unaware the system is disintegrating despite the daily evidence right under their noses. Of course it is far easier to ignore the warning signs and carry on as usual, but at some point it will become impossible for any rational person. It is not pleasant to be around at the collapse of one’s civilization — the… Read more »

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

I know so many guys who think that if we could just balance the budget and tighten up qualifications for welfare then middle-lower class prosperity would return and all would be well.

They assiduously ignore the systematic corruption that Z describes, outsourcing, demographic changes and the sentiments celebrated at San Francisco’s largest museum https://twitter.com/Jonandstuff/status/1152384946687733760.

Bruno the Arrogant
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Bruno the Arrogant

It is hard to judge. I can give you a great argument as to why everything will fall apart next week, and an equally great argument as to why the system will stand for 1000 years. And either has an equal probability of ending up being true, depending on how events play out. I really don’t have much of a yardstick for gauging the situation. I lived through the 60s and 70s, which were likewise a period of unrest. It seemed the signs of discontent were more obvious, there was more street theatre, more dissident groups, more violence. But I’m… Read more »

joe
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joe

I’m convinced the death knell will occur when the US loses status as the “reserve currency” – when other nations and creditors realize that US bonds and dollars are not a good way to store value, and default unit of trade.

The US currency is perhaps the best of a bad lot, but having lived through the 70s inflation, I know there are times when people will prefer to spend their money asap, so as to not hold dollars as they lose value.

Chester White
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Chester White

You are correct, sir.

Dinothedoxie
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Dinothedoxie

Agreed. But that point is decades away at a minimum.

Drake
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Drake

I assume every last thing that happens in DC is done with a political angle these days. Prosecuting Comey right now does nothing for anyone. I except Barr / Trump to bring this story back to the front burner in mid-2020 when it will consume media time during the campaign.

Will it result in the guilty getting punished, the truth revealed. justice served? Why would they care? They care about elections.

joe
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joe

And winning elections is really the priority,

Tykebomb
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Tykebomb

Right wing revolutions aren’t really a thing. It’s far more likely that the breaking point will come from Antifa and its allies movements. It has to get WAY worse, generally and in our perspective, before it gets better.

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

Right Wing Revolutions are indeed not a thing. Right Wing Reactions, on the other hand…

Devon Johnson
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Devon Johnson

Most likely, a Bleeding Kansas type situation with Antifa before things get better.

Carl B.
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Carl B.

There are thousands of Trad Americans out in the streets today shouting “No Justice – No Peace!” Right?

Yeah. Right.

TheLastStand
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TheLastStand

We are too busy keeping the country running. When we are no longer able to do it, the system will collapse and we will have to ride the tiger.

Soverytired1
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Soverytired1

The absolutely stunning wealth “earned” by retiring Presidents in recent years is an ominous bell weather. The Clintons truly broke the mold; the more modest Obama’s are worth north of 100 million. They’ll all smart enough to let it trickle downstream. How is it that James Comey and Robert Muller are paid millions to sit on boards of public companies after they leave their careers as “public servants”? Pointing out just how hyprocritcial this all is (Obama’s buying a $15 million “no-one-needs-too-much-house next to an ocean that is supposed to be flooding the coasts any day now) is a fool’s… Read more »

BadThinker
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BadThinker

I continue to say that we need to look at Britain as the model for what happens to an Anglo country post-empire. The civil servants go on to sit on the boards of big companies. The politicians get a sinecure and many become wealthy (Tony Blair, for example, is worth ~$60 million, John Major ~ $50 million). And the country slowly destroys itself, inviting the world to come live there. The best thing to do is to watch the 1980’s comedy series “Yes, Minister”. Virtually everything that they’re talking about *then* is what’s happening to us *now*. Sure there are… Read more »

Member

” And the country slowly destroys itself, inviting the world to come live there”
The country did not destroy itself.

JZs
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JZs

The cubicle slave will be the vast majority report.

And I called the Barr whitewash exactly correct three weeks ago here. It pisses me off. But, no, I’m not surprised at all.

President Warren, next on deck.

BadThinker
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BadThinker

Gotta keep the kids fed. If it comes between revolution and your child starves, you’re going to keep your kid fed.

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Jeff Sessions, civic nationalist extraordinaire, continues to look worse and worse as time rolls on. To think that we ever thought that wet noodle was going to stand up for “truth, justice, and the American way” makes one want to wretch. The problem with Democracy is that it can only be applied locally. Once you reach our size, voting is meaningless beyond the county level. And because republics almost always transform into empires, the conceit becomes ever more apparent. Sessions was a fantastic example of the ineffectiveness of voting. The bureaucracy is forever. Sessions is in the trash heap. Plutocrats… Read more »

Exile
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Exile

Sessions did get some good things done, but he’s a hopeless BoomerCon, at least a generation out of touch with how far his America had receded in the rear view mirror. You need radicals to fight radicals. To harp on Weimar some more today, and the Bolshies as well, the tepid half-measures of yesterday’s “rule of law” leaders have a shitty track record of staving off the next “Turning.” Just ask Nicholas and von Papen.

Judge Smails
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Judge Smails

Sessions totally disgraced the state of Alabama. He and Trump were this country’s last chance and they punted on third down.

joe
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joe

The only action Trump coulld’ve taken to save the US would’ve been the gangrene cure – build the border wall, but also wall off coastal California, Seattle, Portland, much of Michigan and Minnesota, New York city….. And then deport illegal immigrants and (D)irtbag leaders to the blue zone, by catapult if needed. But look at the obstruction he got just trying to limit moslem importation – he would’ve needed to start by arresting half of DC, with what agencies?. I hope I’m wrong. A wave election in favor of (R)s , followed by firing much of the judiciary might empower… Read more »

Donald Cavaioli
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The problem with democracies and/or republics is the citizenry. We have elected politicians that are elected, re-elected and re-re-elected until they have a lifetime sinecure. So once elected, the politicians does whatever he wants knowing full well his peasant constituents will always vote again for their beloved master. This peasant mindset is another aspect of the problem, however I digress. One of the reasons why this is I call “the great guy syndrome”. The vast majority of Joe and Jane Normie may think everyone else’s elected politico is a corrupt, incompetent ass and can’t understand why those other people in… Read more »

joe
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joe

As Buckley said: “I’d rather entrust the government of the United States to the first 400 people listed in the Boston telephone directory than to the faculty of Harvard University.” I think we’d be literally better off with the random 400. Sure, they’d be soon corrupted too, but it’d be different: buying enough of them to get things done would be hard work , like herding cats. There would not be TRUST AMONG CRIMINALS – the risks would be greater. They could be incentivized by giving them bonuses for ratting out bribery attempts, and disincentivized with arrests and sting operations.… Read more »

Member

I don’t just claim I knew it, I’ve said it many times here. I fear it’s going to require people to seek out justice outside the legal system, and be prepared to get hung for it, to send a message to other would-be corrupt players in government. It should surprise no one, for example, that “protesters” increasingly show up at private residences of public officials. This has mainly been a scare and intimidate tactic of the Left wing mob. But really, both sides are stumbling towards that line daring the other side to cross it first. I have friends and… Read more »

Member

I know a guy who lives out in the county. He really believes this Q-anon stuff. I can see him sitting by his computer wearing his secret decoder ring and waiting for his coded instructions.

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

The coded instructions always are, “Trust the plan and do nothing but drink more Ovaltine.”

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

Ideal instructions for a generation that can remember an America that looked like “A Christmas Story.”

NorthGunner
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NorthGunner

Time to switch the “A Christmas Story” dvd
out of the player and insert “They Live”.

Now, where did I put that pair of Hoffman
glasses?…

Now if only Ralphie had said, “I’m here to kick
ass and chew bubblegum…”

Looks like it’s also past time for Duke Nukem
to make a timely re-appearance…

“I’m going to go Medieval on yer ass!”

NorthGunner – The Truth Is It’s OWN Defense!

Mr22
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Mr22

I can’t think of a single successful right wing revolution in modern times. I can think of a couple successful wing military coups — El Sisi in Egypt, Spain pre-WW2. You need institutions or major foreign backing on your side in order to win a revolution. the left control the media, the universities, the military (the low and mid ranks of the military are right leaning but the upper brass are all shitlibs.) None of the normies I talk to in real life have any understanding of the deficiencies of the current system at all. Much more likely than revolution… Read more »

Crud Bonemeal
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Crud Bonemeal

There is a lot of truth in your assessment, but the good news is… we’re not right wingers.

There are quite a few successful national liberation movements in history, although they usually require specific social and political conditions in order to succeed.

tonaludatus
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tonaludatus

you wrote “I can’t think of a single successful right wing revolution in modern times.” but I can: Augusto José Ramón Pinochet Ugarte (PBUH)

(((They))) Live
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(((They))) Live

Yes but as he points out, you may need outside help. Pinochet had the backing of the US

Member

Historically, nations countries have been very willing to meddle in other countries’ internal politics and support their insurgents. I’m sure something will turn up.

Karl McHungus
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Karl McHungus

Did he? I’d like proof of that. Why would the CIA of 1973 support Pinochet, or any other genuinely rightist movement?

SamlAdams
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SamlAdams

Mi General.

Member

What about in Merkels east Germany?

Oh, right . Communist regimes are automatically “right wing” as soon as their true colors are shown.

Crud Bonemeal
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Crud Bonemeal

I confess to being slightly surprised by the actions of the Trump administration. It’s understandable and expected for them to “sell out” in some way and even screw over the more radical elements of their base. But if you assumed they were a real political faction of their own, you’d expect them to engage in self interested actions, to strengthen their own position and weaken their rivals. Self preservation SHOULD be one of their most basic desires. And, if it had existed, this desire for self preservation would have created opportunities and incidental benefits for at least some of their… Read more »

Compsci
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Compsci

Bonemeal, I think you nailed it (so did Bannon). The administration still believes in rule of law, not rule of power. All failures stem from that fatal misunderstanding. This is a theme repeatedly commented on by our host in many forms—and he is right.

TheLastStand
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TheLastStand

We have put process ahead of results and have consequently forfeited both.

Rod1963
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Rod1963

I think Bannon is dead on about Trump. It would explain why he surrounds himself with Bush/Romney/Obama people. The amusing thing is all these picks end up stabbing Trumpy in the back and he can’t figure out why.

Karl McHungus
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Karl McHungus

yeah, you would think there would have been a real effort to replace leftists on the government teat with your own people.

Chester White
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Chester White

Trump should not have hired a single person who had ever set foot inside the Beltway.

Exile
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Exile

When I was still trying to stay on the side of the CivNat angels, I remember commenting at Ace that we were the only stable realistically-grounded center standing between the raving loonies on the Left and the rayciss Nazis, and if we couldn’t hold, America was going to be just like Weimar, Bolshies vs. Brownshirts. I was dumb enough then to jock W’s Crusade to bomb Iraq Forward!, but at least I got the Weimar thing right. Z’s spot on about CivNats being trapped in a shrinking window of legitimacy. Call it the Kristol effect. They’ve been wrong about everything,… Read more »

Normie
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The article you shared is the reason why White Nationalism will always be a fringe movement. No Urban white is ever going to vote for or allow a regime to take people that have lived here sometimes longer than their own ancestors and “slowly” force them out of our collective country. I love reading this site, but can’t get over the fact that the war is already over. If demographics are destiny, and we shut down the border now, no matter the policies whites will be a minority in most states. You say the White Nationalist arguments win? What arguments?… Read more »

Crud Bonemeal
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Crud Bonemeal

Greg Johnson is indeed living in the past. But if you ran a historical simulation of the decline and fall of the American empire, using other empires as the template, you’d expect balkanization and you’d expect that Whites would end up with some part of the territory where they are sovereign. However, that simulation would be flawed, because American Whites are the most propagandized people in history and at present, they do not have the mental attitudes necessary to gain sovereignty over any territory. The Pro-White movement’s job is to counter that enemy propaganda and alter those mental attitudes so… Read more »

Exile
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Exile

Pure (((CivNat))) cant, right down to doublespeak about needing to hear “rational” arguments while citing your feelz for your PoC friends.

Anyone unironically using the term “vibrant” on this site is a troll or a cretin.

Normie
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Its not rational to have friends that are POC? You must not live in an urban setting… And yes I was trying to make you laugh with vibrant. Im an old school Liberal. Not race based. Not a fing civ nat. Poor vs. Rich based. Union man. I lost a long time ago. No party represents the poor any more. No party represents forcing companies to stay in this country and employ our people: black, brown, white. Most people are like me. They’ve just been tricked into the con vs liberal death spiral. You hate Obama I hate Trump, yet… Read more »

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

I value the honest, intelligent opposition! Preach it Normie!

Let’s settle this. What is the deeper, more powerful force in multiracial countries: deracinated rich vs. poor or tribalism?

Normie
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The rich want it to be tribalism… Thats their only way out of a French rev senerio.

Yes I agree. Right now theyve tricked us into Tribalism. And were falling for it.

POC have and we have.

JR Wirth
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JR Wirth

Dear Normie: I completely understand what you’re saying. My contention is that it will once again be standard (it used to be before 1950 or so) for whites and even some non-whites to see what’s posted on this site as common truths. These common truths were buried in the post-war razzle dazzle of utopia just around the corner. It actually crested long ago. You can be friends with a latino or an Asian, that’s fine. Just remember that you can never be friends with black people. It’s not you it’s them. They’re just too different. You can get along with… Read more »

Veth
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Veth

Oh hogwash. My black son in law is a rock ribbed conservative, while several of my white relatives would ship all Trump supporters off to the camps in a heartbeat. There are people out there who will listen if you take the time to educate, even if they don’t look just like you.

TheLastStand
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TheLastStand

Urban whites will be the first on the chopping block when their neighbors decide to address “white privilege”. We lost at the ballot box well before. The only way out is through.

Normie
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The dirt people will be first. And Urban whites will stand with POC. They already do.

IforgotMyPen
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IforgotMyPen

Normie, Note the amount of down votes you have; you’re swimming against the prevailing feeling of most commenters on this site. I, too, enjoy the site and the thought provoking topics and usually very astute commentary. But as you pointed out, there is not a plan for any real action or change, just a lot of “get off my lawn!” whinning and blaming everything on Trump because he didn’t fix a corrupt gov and culture. Then it’s adhominem attacks of civnat! bommercon! plantruster! etc. because you are asking a legitimate question and not getting on board the black pill train.… Read more »

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

“there is not a plan for any real action or change, just a lot of “get off my lawn!” whinning…”

I agree with Normie&IforgotMyPen that we don’t have clear plan, but that is a measure of how bad our situation is. When you’ve had all the wind knocked out of your body, you don’t have a plan except to persist and fight on.

We must build our movement on the most powerful truth in in the world, which is tribalism, especially for non-whites. The tactics can be managed if we have the correct strategy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-zqWODvtxw

Normie
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Tribalism starts wars and atrocities.

Lets focus on poor vs. rich.

Predators vs normal working people.

Globalism vs authoritarian “best for all of us rules for big b.”

Nah lets blame poor POC or old dudes who are retired.

Easier that way.

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

Non-whites don’t see poor vs. rich when they are in white countries. Ask all the white allies how they are being treated by their sacred non-whites. You are asking more of most non-whites than they are capable.

I wish it wasn’t that way, but this is the world in which we find ourselves.

Normie
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it’s all just poo flinging and attacks on Trump. But you also didn’t vote for him, and have never supported anything he’s done, so now that you feel the tide turning you want to pile on… Very true. Trump is the final nail in the white conciousness movement. Hes prob. the worst example of a white man. Yeah he makes libs mad. He also awoke a hatred of dirt people never before seen. People say the mask is off now… No. Seeing this guy embarrass our country daily and humilate himself and his own supporters daily makes people think: “you… Read more »

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

Normie, please keep commenting.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

“America was going to be just like Weimar, Bolshies vs. Brownshirts.”

For some reason, that sent a weird chill of precog down my spine. The hair on my arms is actually standing up.

**********
(PS- the Brownshirts were WW1 veterans, a patriot org like the Oathkeepers today)

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

To quote Bush 1, “Wouldn’t be prudent.” Therefore, I delete my crude comment about the Oathkeepers.

Dutch
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Dutch

It all reminds me a bit of my high school days. I went in the mid ‘70s, like the “Dazed and Confused” movie or “Fast Times at Ridgemont High”. We basically had the run of the place, there were no enforced rules, you could pretty much do whatever you wanted, and only occasionally would we take our seats and shut up for a few minutes, to appease a teacher somewhere. Some things came from it. One was the idea that we were “untouchable”, and that there was never any real threat of accountability. The old joke was that something “would… Read more »

Exile
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Exile

Pretty much my experience too. I wonder if Xer-style slacker rebellion’s softer edge compared with Boomers comes from the fact that rebel Boomers faced harder social control. The Sixties WASP anti-hippie counter-reformation was still totally inadequate, with too few seeing this was much more than a “phase” Boomers would grow out of, but they got their skulls cracked by tradDads a lot harder than I did growing up in the 70’s-early 80’s.

Ayatollah Rockandrollah
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This is a remarkably astute and insightful comment. I was a young, impressionable child in the 1970s, and we had tons of high school kids on my street in the ‘burbs. They terrorized the neighborhood, wrapped cars around trees, left beer cans everywhere, dealt drugs, and had the run of our town. When I later taught at the university level, I met these people again, in middle age. I was teaching their children. They had the same attitude as they did as teenagers, only now they had money, homes, and some social influence. They worked in politics, government, the media,… Read more »

tonaludatus
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tonaludatus

a beautiful summation

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

That had to be a in city. In the small towns, kids snuck beer and a few tried a joint, but everybody had two jobs in the summer, or worked the harvest. High school football and fast cars were still the big deal. The culture shock of desegregation and hadn’t reached there, yet. (Graduated ’77.)

The main thing was, everybody expected to work. The kids were allowed to stairstep into the system, to participate.

Dutch
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Dutch

Southern California lily white middle class suburb. Just across town from “Ridgemont High” (Clairemont High in San Diego).

We all had after school/weekend jobs. We got to leave after a couple of periods of class to go to work, and got school attendance credit for it.

WhereAreTheVikings
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WhereAreTheVikings

Exactly. I graduated in 1976 in a small Oklahoma town and aside from a few who were drinking at the lake on the weekends and/or smoking pot in the alley at noon hour, there was football, hay hauling, working at Safeway, and more football. And guns in racks in the pickups at school. Most homes were intact, dads were respected, and just about everyone ended up gainfully employed with kids. Looking back, it was in many ways heaven.

Compsci
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Compsci

Very good description of the human factors involved in revolution. As much as I attempt to give Trump a “fair shake”, I knew he was incompetent the minute he met with Comey and later praised him and kept him as Director of the FBI—all while Comey was back stabbing him with secret memos of confidential discussions. Lack of insight into the swamp was the death knell of his Presidency as the only strength he ran on was as a leader who could command/motivate employees and weed out incompetents. As one of the “managerial” class before I retired, I came to… Read more »

Dutch
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Dutch

Good point. There are quite a few people who have already checked out, mentally (raising my hand at this), but still are doing their daily thing. The mental bags are packed, and some of the physical ones too, but not actually making the move yet. I keep the gas tanks full in my trucks, and I am getting my passport renewed. Starting the quiet internal goodbyes to a lot of what I have known.

King Tut
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King Tut

A very long-standing friend of mine did a Phd in Comparative Revolutions. He told me many years ago that, in his opinion, having studied several different revolutions in many different countries, that all revolutions have one root cause: dashed expectations.

Just a theory but I think it is an interesting one.

Now, bringing this forward to our situation, how many people earnestly believed and expected that Donald Trump would drain the swamp and restore America?

Dutch
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Dutch

Dashed expectations, good one. And if our expectations are being dashed, I think they might have been fairly modest expectations, compared to those on the “other side”. They seem to be feeling their dashed expectations much more keenly than we are, perhaps because those expectations were much more grand (and unreasonable) than ours.

TheLastStand
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TheLastStand

So maybe if Trump gets re-elected, the top Democrats will not be able to control Antifa, BLM, Muslims, and La Raza and things will get interesting.

Compsci
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Compsci

Belief and hope are two different animals. I was hopeful, but realized that it really would be an act of Devine Provenience for Trump to be successful. After a couple of months, it was apparent that Trump was not up to the task and that the task of swamp draining was incredibly greater than I ever imagined. I still don’t take umbrage specifically with Trump as I now believe there is no man that can handle the task of cleaning up the swamp without dictatorial powers. But I hear ya, King Tut. Most of the folk I talk with who… Read more »

Bruno the Arrogant
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Bruno the Arrogant

I am certainly not betting on Trump. My only reason to support Trump is that, alone of all the presidents we’re likely to be getting in the near future, he isn’t actively hostile towards us. I strongly prefer a president that does nothing for us as compared to one who’s actively gunning for our scalps. I don’t see the point of ditching Plan A, unsatisfactory as it is, when you have no Plan B to fall back on. You get Trump or you get nothing. Simple as that.

Drake
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Drake

Pretty good. Reading about the early days of the American Revolution, there is an incredible sense of disappointment that the crown wouldn’t treat them as Englishmen. Maybe the next one will be people disappointed that they aren’t treated as Americans.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

The revolution of rising expectations followed by dashed expectations. A commentator here observed that some Trump supporters saw him as a Gen. Pinochet but he probably will turn out to be a Gorbachev, attempting to reform a system that is beyond reform. The collapse followed in the Soviet Union and will follow in the US. I’m a fan of Martin Armstrong of Armstrong Economics (a friend pays big bucks to subscribe to his private blog and attend his conferences), who predicts the future by looking at historical cycles. He projects civil war in the mid 2020s and a new form… Read more »

Maus
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Maus

Armstrong appears to be a charlatan of the first stripe. I wouldn’t rely on any advice he’s peddling. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_A._Armstrong?wprov=sfla1

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

My friend, a retired hedge fund manager, thinks well of him. Thanks.

Exile
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Exile

I agree with Maus on Armstrong. Taleb for all his hubris makes good points about guys in the prediction business. I would bet my every dime against an actual civil war or even a major civil disruption in the US on that short a timeline. Guys who monetize their predictions on that scale and guys who have scandals like that 1999 ponzi scheme in their backgrounds are all too common. He’s a two-fer. Zerohedge is full of them. On a longer timeline, he’s mostly right about China and a U.S. transformation/Balkanization, but a majority of armchair dissidents in the US… Read more »

Karl McHungus
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Karl McHungus

China will break up before the US; it is already doing so right now.

M.B. Lamar
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M.B. Lamar

A lot of people believed. They STILL believe. I’m sure of it. My guess isn’t revolt, but consolidation. You’ll see a big influx into the upper Midwest, the mountain west. And those places might be a little more historic in their approach to diversity. I think it’s already starting to happen.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

I know two men and their families who plan to move to Idaho.

3g4me
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3g4me

How about hope against (all) hope? Never expected anything, normally cynical in the extreme, but foolishly allowed myself to hope that this time it might be different. It wasn’t and I’m not surprised, just more disappointed that I was silly enough to hope in the first place. I’m mentally checked out of ‘Murrica and suffer no false sentimentality about what it was.

Rogeru
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Rogeru

King Tut:
“revolutions have one root cause: dashed expectations”

I can easily believe that revolutions are, at root, a temper tantrum thrown by entitled kids.

Guest
Guest
Guest

There won’t be any prosecutions of significant players in the deep state’s interference in the 2016 election and the subsequent attempted coup because the defense would be entitled to unredacted copies of all documents relevant to the defense, and those documents cannot be subject to a protective order. The decision to bring charges is tantamount to a decision to declassify unredacted copies of classified documents, and arguably is outside the scope of authority of the prosecutors. Any competent defense attorney knows this and would advise his/her client not to take a plea bargain. There is not going to be a… Read more »

Aditya Barot
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Cheeto Schicklegruber is now trying to claim the latest “one hand washes the other” as a sort of rare and hitherto undiscovered species of victory. The plan is working out perfectly. 1. Replace demographic most likely to rebel (check) 2. Enstupidate and enervate the ones that are a clear and present danger. (check) 3. Bribe the populate while they are being culled with cheap goods, drugs and sex. (check). Essentially, when America is just one big shopping mall cum mental asylum cum open air prison comprised of all sorts of low-IQ and low-trust apes in human form, there will quite… Read more »

Exile
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Exile

We’ve already achieved a soft caste system, the kind of thing Charles Murray documented in “Coming Apart” (prescribing more libertarianism as an antidote, OFC). But we’re not entirely replaced, enervated or tranquilized just yet. Globohomo won with soft power and so can we – it’s a race to preserve our numbers and red pill a critical cultural mass. Your co-ethnics and their main competitors to displace us from the throne of PissEarth (the Chosen and Han) are having a hard time boiling the White frog slowly. Sailer’s a great collator of Bindi triumphalism and I’ll stack those guys up against… Read more »

Aditya Barot
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Brother, if you win, make me Commissar for Pajeet and Kebab removal, and let me keep 0.1% of 1% of all expropriations. I’m a simple man with simple needs! 😉

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Aditya, you’re like the Eastern Europeans, who say “we’ve seen all this before, back in the old country.”

For many historical reasons, the Sikh and the Anglos were and are natural allies. We ‘get’ each other.

The strains of Aryan in India, South Americas, Mideast… of Ice People in Asia… I think we have more natural allies than we realize.

CAPT S
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CAPT S

Absolutely concur w/ your rebellious thoughts. A looming problem, however, is that just about every competing faction feels similarly (that all is lost), and no faction seems to garner more than 10-20% support. For example, rebellion and cynicism is shared by all the competing factions that fall under the rainbow banner. But give them their own state or city (California, Detroit, etc) and all you get are homeless vagrants, drug crime, and Antifa. I’m not as well-versed in history as Z and many commenters (I continue to work on that.) But I’ve worked in the dark recesses of DC and… Read more »

TheLastStand
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TheLastStand

3% of the American population actively fought the British. Maybe 10% provided support. About 1/3 of the population sympathized.

Homosexuals and transgenders are a tiny fraction of the population. They got their desired world.

God only chose a dozen men.

Big changes come from small groups of true believers.

CAPT S
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CAPT S

I hear you my friend, and those stats are encouraging I suppose. But. I would be a lot more optimistic if I knew a lot of men with a great big pair of brass ones, teamed up with a tactical mind and capable hands. Fact is, I know very, very few of those guys (although I expect many are here on this blog.) Maybe, however, that just says something about the poor company I keep. Then I talk to my vet buddies around the country and things don’t look so great where they are either. So we’re either a bunch… Read more »

WhereAreTheVikings
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WhereAreTheVikings

Endure hardship? Our own president doesn’t think we can get through a Christmas without cheap electronics.

The Babe
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The Babe

The likely answer right now is most normal white people are a bit shocked by what is happening, unable to process it. Well, I hate to “punch white,” but the average normie white guy is too much of an overfed, over-entertained marshmallow to be shocked or angered by much of anything. It’s the land of the lotus-eaters out there. It reminds me of one of the old Frogwave tweets to the effect of “just watch your sportsball and consume your garbage Netflix series while you get genocided, morons.” Of course, he intended that as a wake-up call, but that’s literally… Read more »

Exile
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Exile

Revos are always fought by minorities, with the majority of population as cranky reluctant ballast annoyed at the turbulence but unwilling to do shit about the situation either way. Google the “25% revolution.”

JR Wirth
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JR Wirth

I had to wait five minutes to get into REI this morning. Mistimed the traffic and arrived early. When I got there I found a dozen or so white male yuppies, the Outback driving types, milling around, texting, etc. I wanted to punch them and didn’t know why. Maybe just to let them feel something for a change.

Larry
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Larry

Dear Z. Your posts have been absolutely smashing lately.

This one is SO damn good that I am sending it to everyone I know

Member

It is Donald Trump who never fails to disappoint. Just this morning on Drudge there was a story about how his personal assistant betrayed him by running her mouth to the press. Further down in the story it is revealed that The Donald hired a personal assistant who CRIED on election night because he got elected, despite being a Republican!
WILL HE EVER LEARN?

Larry
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Larry

No. He is a narcissistic cretin who likes being the boss.

As we used to say in Maine – He is as shallow as piss on a plate

BadThinker
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BadThinker

All Hat and No Cattle.

Member

I don’t even know what that means, and I still laughed.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Tars, it’s an oldie but a goodie from Texas ranchers.

Official Bologna Tester
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Official Bologna Tester

Tars_Tarkusz said: ” I don’t even know what that means, and I still laughed.” It means a phony blowhard.

Member

The Liverpool version is
All fur coat and no knickers.

Jim Smith
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Jim Smith

The airline worker version is “All flap and no throttle.”

Ursula
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Ursula

Generic version: All fluff and no stuff.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Trump bought survival for his bloodline.
Can’t blame him, as the Owners are the strongest bunker now.

Dutch
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Dutch

People usually congregate at the place of greatest long term safety. Another iteration of the reality of nature, which really is immutable, no matter how much people pretend otherwise.

BadThinker
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BadThinker

The lack of being able to listen to an hour of Zman’s deep voice saddens me today. And the black pill is strong with the post today right before the holiday!

Ajclement
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Ajclement

The black pills flow freely from all sides these days

Sleepy
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Sleepy

I’m convinced that the US intelligence apparatus/permanent government/deep state spies on anyone and everyone seeking a position of power in any administration, including Democrats and particularly presidential candidates. This is standard procedure. What they are looking for, however, are not not so much threats to the US, but rather threats to their power and agenda. For instance, the Clinton Foundation sewer was leverage for them, not a threat. The spying on the Trump campaign was fine and expected. Consider the establishment (anti-Trump) Republicans that were tits deep in it, e.g., John McCain (PBUH) and Richard Burr, to name just a… Read more »

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Spot on, Steve. The pirate Companies, operating beyond borders and above laws, rule the world. They are like dark matter, wrenching all the visible world out of true.

Rogeru
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Rogeru

As far as I can tell, politics runs on favors, bribes and blackmail (my phone apparently agrees, it suggested bribes and blackmail! ). Epstein ‘s role was to get video of powerful men having sex with underage hookers for leverage. Presumably each faction has it Epstein. Spying is another way to find leverage material, who knows what they’ve got on Trump, Barr, everybody .

Politics can’t be honest, that would be unpredictable.

Vegetius
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Vegetius

People should have a five-year plan and one for the day after tomorrow. In the event of a recession, obviously we wrap the tribe around the banks. Directly where possible and indirectly (but obviously) where not. In the meantime, study. Study A Savage War of Peace. Study David Kilcullen. Study the Malheur occupation. Study the Arab Spring. Study Mao. Study Hong Kong. Study Zarqawi. Study studies of the anti-Partisan campaigns of WW II. Study how the IRA operated in Derry and Belfast. Study the local natural disaster plans for your city and county. And study FM 3-24, the COIN manual,… Read more »

Exile
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Exile

Just put Kilcullen’s “Accidental Guerilla” on my Audible list yesterday. Doing “The Rural Ranger” by Ron Foster and “Survival Theory” by Jon Hollerman this weekend while bumping around the mountains. I’ve said above that I don’t think we’re facing near-term destabilization or collapse, but I’m not betting my life and future on that prediction, and neither should you. Developing survival and disaster skills are their own reward. It benefits your confidence, frame and overall mindset and sharpens your awareness of practical problem solving and real priorities. We need to cover all bases in fighting to win. Be the ones who… Read more »

Flair 1239
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I think we are very near some sort of crackdown on no name people like us (people who are dissidents but with no public profile). To keep things as they are they can’t just prosecute the dissident protesters at Charlottesville, they need to ruin the guy sitting on his toilet posting to Twitter. Things like right wing memes will be labeled as terroristic threats. They will publicly embarrass and punish some random people. Kick in some doors and let the dissidents know they are not anonymous. It will be like what Antifa tries to do except it will be the… Read more »

John River's Carbuncle
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John River's Carbuncle

“that flicker of hope that William Barr would not be another slithering reptile”
Hey, watch it with the anti-semitism!

I had a flicker of hope when Whitaker was appointed, which was promptly crushed when Barr was tapped.

Dutch
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Dutch

The thing is, facts and evidence don’t matter. Warren is a shapeshifting weasel, Biden is brain dead, Bernie is an angry old Jewish fool that has a need to infect everyone around him with his angst, and Trump will fight mightily to protect his own good name but is largely indifferent to the rest of us, as to our own needs and preferences. Comey, Brennan, Clapper, Obama and Hillary are all common criminals. But none of it matters to most people. All of this, or the arguments repudiating it, is simply grist to advance preconceived narratives. Most people on all… Read more »

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

There’s speculation online that Comey will be nailed on the FISA issue. I still hope that these SOBs are brought down. Pres. Trump is the kind of Republican who actually fights back.

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He just fired a close aid this morning who gave info to a journalist without authorization. Letting things slide is not Trump’s style. So I imagine he will press Barr for results. Whether he gets results or not…

Max Schumacher
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Max Schumacher

Barr simply returned to form vis a vis his first pass as AG in ’91-’93; the consummate bureaucrat towing the line. I was hoping for better, but not expecting it. Uncertain the future is…

Outis
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Outis

We are still holding out a slim hope the FISAgate shenanigans will result in charges.

M.B. Lamar
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M.B. Lamar

I mean, Epstein was blatantly disposed of, they clearly don’t have any concerns about consequences of their evil machinations. Face it, they are biding the very short time til 2020 when they can lock down total control, forever. It’s over. Who’s going to revolt? We live in a police state Stalin could only dream of.

TheLastStand
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TheLastStand

Choke on your own blackpill instead of demoralizing people here.

Exile
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Exile

Total control by 2020? Not even close. Read some Gulag Archipelago before you sell Stalin’s state short. They’re not taking truckloads of shitposters to the Lubyanka for 9mm therapy. Epstein was ganked because he was in House of Cards level shit with dozens of top-level bad operators. We’re not functioning on that level and don’t have that profile. Take a shot of courage or three and regroup.

Karl McHungus
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Karl McHungus

haha forever like Stalin and the USSR were forever.

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Tuned in. Turned on. Will probably never tune out. The lone wolf dies. If change is coming. Bring it.

bob sykes
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bob sykes

In his first go around, in 1992, Barr participated in the attempted Iran-Contra coverup. He also had dealings with Bill Clinton in Arkansas, and the CIA drug trafficking operation in Mena.

This guy is deep Deep State.

Official Bologna Tester
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Official Bologna Tester

We’re all suffering from battered wife syndrome. Stop loving your abusers. Whatever America may have been in the past, it’s not that anymore. So suck it up and move on.

TomA
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TomA

The worst is yet to come. Rise of tyranny is now very likely and survival in this Brave New World will require active measures. Do not despair. Keep a low profile and go dark if feasible. Stay alert. Use what you know best. Opportunities always arise. Act when appropriate.

Official Bologna Tester
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Official Bologna Tester

TomA said: “The worst is yet to come.” That’s true. Then a bunch great stuff will happen, coupled with long periods of boredom and lots of trips to the bathroom. And then who knows, the second coming of Christ or the next asteroid. Personally, I went to the Safeway yesterday and I’m hoping to get to the Haagen-Dazs before anything major happens.

JR Wirth
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JR Wirth

Where did Barr come from? He came from the Bush 1 era. His appointment was breezily confirmed by the Senate. Either Trump knew this wouldn’t be prosecuted (after all these crimes were against his campaign) and is fine with that as some strategy, or…he’s just too stupid to be President. I believe in the later. A shallow, shallow man whose own daughter mocks him after he buys her a pony. And by the way, that “personal assistant” that just resigned for leaking worked for Romney! All I can say is, just how stupid is this man? Who hires an ex-Romney… Read more »

Pursuvant
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Pursuvant

There’s a big gap between knowing what will happen and having no clue of the future. In that gap is also the possibility of nature, reasserting herself as she has before (plague), or an accidental release from a military lab.

I can’t think of any other non-nuclear way to run round the globe, destroying every institution, polity, media, culture, caste. Complete collapse of urban everything.

Resets the Awareness of the half who survive.

Hoagie
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Hoagie

“I can’t think of any other non-nuclear way to run round the globe, destroying every institution, polity, media, culture, caste. Complete collapse of urban everything.”

I can and it’s called Islam.

Mac
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Mac

“We not only need a new ruling class, we need a new system. The center of gravity for the opposition to the status quo is moving further down that scale toward rebellion.”
It seems like the ruling class isn’t even shy anymore about telling us that that’s what they want too. They want us dead.

Official Bologna Tester
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Official Bologna Tester

Mac said: ” It seems like the ruling class isn’t even shy anymore about telling us that that’s what they want too. They want us dead. ”

No. They don’t want us dead. They just want us all to work for nickels and dimes, stay in debt slavery, eat lots of processed food, buy lots of cheap crap and obay f**king orders. I ask you, what is wrong with that?

JR Wirth
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JR Wirth

Yes. That’s exactly what they want.

Donald Cavaioli
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Agree. There is likely no real plan for a total YT genocide. The ruling class still do need us to some extent and best kept in a helpless minority. But they’re goading us, the dissidents into trying to fight back so the more combative dissidents, which our rulers reckon is only a small percentage of the population, can be killed off. This will bring home the lesson that resistance is futile, love your chains and praise your betters for allowing us an occasional extra crust of bread or teaspoon of gruel in our iron rice bowls. And the normies will… Read more »

Compsci
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Compsci

Agreed, but it will be a hell of a balancing act. The elite are basically a percent of a percent. They need a support base to live their lifestyle. That’s the upper 10%. The 80-90% left are basically useless to them, except as a voting base—for now. However, this bottom 4 quintiles are the tax eaters, who produce less than they consume. How to feed them? Well, tax those upper 10%—but there is not enough $$$ in the upper 10-20% to do so and keep them loyal to the elite. Something’s got to give. As you said, give them a… Read more »

Official Bologna Tester
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Official Bologna Tester

Donald Cavaioli said: “his will bring home the lesson that resistance is futile, love your chains and praise your betters for allowing us an occasional extra crust of bread or teaspoon of gruel in our iron rice bowls. And the normies will cheer.” In the movie Gladiator Senator Gracchus is talking about the mod to Senator Falco. Gracchus : Fear and wonder, a powerful combination. Falco : You really think people are going to be seduced by that? Gracchus : I think he knows what Rome is. Rome is the mob. Conjure magic for them and they’ll be distracted. Take… Read more »

El Polacko
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El Polacko

Is anyone naive enough to believe that Trump would have been allowed anywhere near the most powerful political position in the world if he were not a made man in the global elite? The very best that could have been hoped for from Trump is that he represented a segment of the global elite that had its gag reflex triggered by the murderous greed and the outright degeneracy and perversion of other elements. It is now becoming apparent which faction is ascendant. A ruling class that has been honing its manipulative chops since Noah’s Flood will not be easily displaced.… Read more »

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Black pill? Screw that. Someday we will be TAKING OVER the prisons!

(And then… the camps… a zek can dream, can’t he?)

Anon
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Anon

I for one am glad our betters should have elected not to vent some of that pent-up anger with a few show trials. It’ll make the explosion all the more spectacular. As to the observation that cynicism comes with the territory, I think it’s more of an effect than a cause. Our engagement doesn’t spring from jadedness, but it does entail a great deal of detachment to achieve any level of staying power, and an understanding that one must first and foremost maintain a dispassionate outlook. Following daily events on the dissident side ever since the summer of 2016 has… Read more »

William Williams
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William Williams

Biologically speaking, a 50% human die-back isn’t much of a big deal, and would in fact be very beneficial to the population which survives.

Do what you can to influence which 50% survives.

Karl McHungus
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Karl McHungus

supposedlyy there was a die off that left only fewer than 10k humans alive, way back when. see https://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/2012/10/22/163397584/how-human-beings-almost-vanished-from-earth-in-70-000-b-c

Sean Detente
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Hell, a 75% wouldn’t be a big deal, either. Would leave a slightly larger world population than was present in 1900.

ProUSA
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ProUSA

The national debt is in the twenty trillions and even the elite know it is game over, so they are playing the game that we po’ folks try to play when we see what is happening…. …..store up large sums of money, goods, supplies, food, and water. The more wealthy you are, the better are your chances to prepare and survive for what is coming. Being in their position allows them to reap huge financial windfalls. Why buck the system? If Congress doesn’t have the will to cut entitlements due to it being suicidal, then the only play left is… Read more »

Karl McHungus
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Karl McHungus

you can’t worry about the national debt and totalitarian take over. pick one or the other, they are mutually exclusive.

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
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Gonna offer a possible whitepill:
Barr was CIA for 4 years, this is true.
He’s also favors strong unitary executive. He’s been a DOJ attorney since the hitch in the CIA.

White Pill; It is just possible that Trump has found his Bill Casey.

Casey was OSS during WW2, but mostly he was Wall Street. It was Casey who told Wall Street subsidizing the USSR was over – and the USSR always basically bankrupt became insolvent.

Barr may-may-be that messenger to DOJ, even perhaps Intel. DOJ and Intel are the closest thing to an army Progress has.

Official Bologna Tester
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Official Bologna Tester

What’s the percentage for anyone in D.C. pushing hard for justice? What’s in it for them? A few people in Congress stuck their necks out to get at the facts. Congress Nunes, Congress Jordan and maybe Gowdy. But not many more that I could see. In the Imperial city, there’s one way to succeed and lost of ways to fail.

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Bill Barr’s daddy was a member of the OSS- precursor to the CIA. He was also the Headmaster at Dalton school when a totally unqualified college dropout- Epstein was hired.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jeffrey-epstein-dalton-school-math-teacher-yearbook-photos-125122535.html

Billy Barr himself, was of course, a CIA agent with a past mired in the Iran-Contra affair where his job was to cover it up.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/ciabushiran-contra-covert-operative-fixer-william-barr-nominated-attorney-general/5662609

So a free-ranging honest investigation was obviously guaranteed.

Official Bologna Tester
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Official Bologna Tester

@bilejones.

“This is our purpose: to make as meaningful as possible this life that has been bestowed upon us . . . to live in such a way that we may be proud of ourselves, to act in such a way that some part of us lives on.”
― Oswald Spengler

Sooner or later, the smart people will turn their backs on politics and simply go do something worthwhile with their lives. I wish them luck.

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There is no crisis facing the elite. Most whites still love their lives and are happy. Home equity and remodeled kitchens are the most important things to them. Guns are magical. If you own one you don’t have to care what happens in society. You are a free man. Sure there may be 10 percent of the people who are thought criminals but they are being deplatforned and hunted down to the relief of the elite on both sides of the aisle. Democrats don’t care about double standards where the elite are above Justice as long as they are in… Read more »

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“… and it’s not okay because if they take my stapler* then I’ll set the building country on fire…” — paraphrasing Milton Waddams, Office Space

*and by stapler I mean my freedom, my dignity, the sweat of my brow.

Dennis Roe
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Dennis Roe

Once you kill a president, Kennedy, and get away with it….anything goes. We’re programmed to believe bullshit. Work to kick up cash to the rich fucks….till you’re dead. That’s what’s on the menu…enjoy.

nrer
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Is there a “How to guide” for renouncing your US citizenship if you are in the USA? Being an illegal has its advantages.

Gray Ghost
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People won’t do shit. This country is asleep, we don’t even have the 1776 3%. The only way to fix this is let it burn and sift ashes.

Karl McHungus
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Karl McHungus

I agree with your analysis on this issue. If none of the big players get serious jail time before the next election, Trump will lose badly. Monkey wrenching on a large scale will be the next stage of collapse, I think. A million monkeys putting sand in the gears, on their own volition, will do a lot of cumulative damage. On top of the large scale damage governmental incompetence is doing.

Letting these ass holes off is going to lead to massive amounts of jury nullification, I think.

Sven
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Sven

Rule 308.

Sean Detente
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Rule 5.62 instead.