We’re Doomed

The Catholics say despair is a sin and perhaps it is, but it is hard to be optimistic about the world when you see stories like this one. Even allowing for the possibility there could be more to the story than what is being reported, how can society survive when this sort of thing  is even plausible?

Thomas Salbey became an internet sensation after footage of him hurling abuse at Sonboly, from the balcony of his fifth floor apartment was posted on Twitter.

But while many praised Mr. Salbey for standing up to the gunman – who aimed shots in his direction – Florian Weinzierl, a spokesman for the Munich prosecutor, has confirmed that Mr. Salbey is to be charged with libel for his comments. It is not known who reported Mr. Salbey to the authorities.

As the attack by Sonboly was already underway, Mr. Weinzierl said that initial investigations have shown that Mr. Salbey’s diatribe did not affect the course of events. The specific charges have yet to be announced, but Mr. Weinzierl said he expected that they would include “insults to the detriment of the dead”.

Detriment to the dead? How is it possible that such a combination of words exists, much less made its ways into the law? Now, loopy nonsense gets into the law for various reasons and maybe this is the case, but civil authorities appear to be ready to charge a man for insulting the dead. How is this different from charging someone with being a wizard? The underlying assumption is that through some magical means, the insult reaches the insulted. I guess the prosecutor will use a Ouija board at trial to get a victim statement.

That’s only half the problem. What sort of person reported the guy? presumably, someone complained. In Europe, it is against the law to hurt someone’s feelings so I would assume that’s the angle. The accused insulted the dead, which made someone sad so the accused must be made to suffer. This is old testament justice for the snowflake age. Instead of eye-for-an-eye, it’s boo-boo for boo-boo justice.  The fact that this exists and people go along with it suggests there no hope for the West. Only a mass die off like the Black Plague can fix this.

It’s not so much that some women called the authorities on this guys. You just know it is a woman who dropped the dime. It is always a woman behind these things. It’s that people in positions of responsibility encourage this sort of thing. For all of human history, the ruling class discouraged this sort of behavior as they knew it could get out of hand quickly. The prosecutors or police who took this call should have politely listened, promised to look into it and then forgot about it. That’s how you’re supposed to handle community cranks.

We’re doomed.

 

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UKer
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I presume (always dangerous) that prosecuting the unfortunate German man — henceforth known as Balcony Man –over his shouts allows the German government to say “Look, we did something. Terror does not go unanswered in our country!”

I’d be interested to see how the Berlin media spin this one. But ‘detriment to the dead’ is an instant classic.

coyote
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start praising them for being dead.

OfayCat
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If given the opportunity, I am always willing to thank a muslim for dying.

vonbock
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See the comments in the link………It was a woman. UR right, we are doomed.

Uncola
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Uncola
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Paradoxically, she claims to be against bullying.

I swear. You couldn’t make this sh*t up if you tried.

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Thanks for posting that. For those interested, that link has CC translation available through the settings (it’s not great, but you can get the gist of it.)

The woman is, as many have pointed out, demented. On Breitbart I read somewhere that demonstrations against this idiocy will take place. If I were there, I’d be part of them!

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We’re doomed?

Who is this “we”, white man?

Shelby
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Somewhere there is a list of words not to be spoken by grown men. I’m pretty sure near the top is “boo boo”.
Grandfathers excluded.
As for insulting the dead……God help us.

vonbock
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That’s white men. 2 or more is plural…. U got a solution for these brain-washed women & their male a$$wipes that’s somewhere short of “Final”?

LetsPlay
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I guess my vote for action would be to use various means to “shame” the prosecution and police for using limited funds/resources for such trivial shit. Ask them why money is being spent on such stupidity and hold them accountable in the court of public opinion. Surely there are outlets in media and internet that can make hay out of this? There are so many fooking lawyers/attoooorneys out there, where are they when we need them?

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Your comment and that of LetsPlay raise an issue the right has avoided for too long, namely, when is violence or the threat of it appropriate. Not just the silly venting that goes on in internet comments, but a cold blooded decision that x is the crisis point after which we will start to physically confront people. Sorry LetsPlay, the left is pretty much impervious to shame and the left always uses violence and physical intimidation, which they call “demonstrations”, “protests” and “sit-ins”. The problem is that rightists don’t like violence partially I think because we are a bit passive… Read more »
LetsPlay
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Fred z: Of course you are correct in a general sense. But looking at it in a tactical sense, Merkel is in a boat load of trouble with the Brexit and immigration issues and the timing is right for attacking, what I consider, ridiculous government overreach. This is a first step since it does not appear to be much has been done to fight back against the left, but what do I know not living in Germany. Maybe as Karl says, “This is how we roll in Deutschland” and any local efforts would be pretty fruitless. It would depend on… Read more »
PRCD
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Bill Lind, Martin Van Creveld, the late Samuel Huntington, and many other have written about the decline of the nation-state. We’re seeing the nation-state in its death throes now and perhaps a return to the pre-Westphalian order with some added gadgetry. One could argue the Germans voted for this and got what they voted for. Having interacted with numerous Germans, they are very PC and cowardly which is why they get pushed around by the Turks, Albanians, and Russians. Americans are not much different but display a bit more physical courage. If, on the other hand, the German government at… Read more »
OfayCat
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Enfeebled, feminized white males and their Dyke-Like women working along with outfits like BLM and the DNC and of course, in The EU obeying the inane dictates of Brussels … yes, it’s mostly what’s left of white men who built the modern world then gave it away, who are big risk of vanishing from the planet. Earth will then transmogrify into Planet of The Apes without the Heston visit.

Uncola
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Obviously, in a Culture of Death: Suicide becomes noble; obliteration, an ideal, and anything less, detrimental.

Pat Baker
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“We’re doomed”

Zman, I always had you pegged for a SMOD voter . . .

https://twitter.com/smod2016/media

RedFred
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I watched her video. My German is soooo rusty, and she has terrible diction …. but It seems that she reported him thinking that his comments *caused* the killer to start shooting …. and it appears that the Munich prosecutor has now dropped the complaint.

Karl Horst (Germany)
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This is an interesting case and I can understand why this doesn’t make sense to non-Germans. I was able to find the original article in TZ München (http://www.tz.de) and while I am not a legal person I will attempt to explain what is behind the charge. German law is very serious with regards to human rights and dignity and our Constitution is very specific about this subject. It doesn’t take much of a history lesson to understand where this came from and why it was worded this way as I mentioned the other day about our Constitution and the freedom,… Read more »
Saml Adams
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The fact that you are even having a debate about this is ludicrous. After watching the video about the only debate I could have imagined would have been whether to even bother dialing up the Leupold Vari-X past 1.5x on my deer rifle before putting a .308 through his chest. Particularly with that nice big empty parking deck to provide protection against over penetration. Sorry my friend, you folks cannot even fathom the concept of self defense, let alone execute on it. Get out while you can.

Karl Horst (Germany)
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I’m certainly not debating, or even defending “balcony man”. I am simply explaining why German authorities would act on this woman’s call and why there would be a case against him. We have lots of idiots in this country too who can’t see the forest for the trees. Unfortunately we had a lot more of them about 80-years ago and a few years of “population redistribution” thinned out the herd. Then the 60’s and 70’s happened, and these people started showing up again. I believe you call them “sheeple”.

Karl Horst (Germany)
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I meat to have said “I’m certainly not debating, or even defending “balcony man” or the woman who called”.

LetsPlay
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I would be absolutely fine with defending “balcony man.” I guess I know where I would stand because I refuse to be PC and I speak my mind and not so politely either. As for the woman who reported him to the police, well, may a good Muslim meet her in a dark alley. She is a nazi. In spite of your explanations Karl, there is just something wrong about German laws regarding this stuff. Wrong.

Karl Horst (Germany)
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@ LetsPlay – I believe in this case the charges were dropped. But this is typical of any disturbance where the police are called, there has to be an investigation as a matter of procedure. It doesn’t necessarily mean charges will occur. As for the woman, yes, she’s typical of the kind of person that would call the police if you washed you car on Sunday. Every neighborhood has them, I’m sure you have a few in America too. Stupidity and poor judgment have no borders. But I have to defend laws that protect people from abuse in physical or… Read more »
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We have a saying in America, “Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.” If you need protection against harsh words, buy some earplugs. Or grow a spine.

One person’s “verbal abuse” is another person telling them the truth, which they do not want to hear. “Hate laws” are hateful, and have no place in a civilized society.

LetsPlay
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I’m glad to hear the charges were dropped against a man speaking his mind in public. As for “laws that protect people from abuse in physical or verbal form” I can only state, just maybe there was a good reason of provocation that caused such a verbal response. People can be idiots, inconsiderate, malevolent, just plain stupid. In my experience, many people choose to let this kind of stuff “slide” rather than confront these individuals. I confront it. I have been, as you say, “verbally abused.” But I did not call mommy, the police, or someone in an authority position… Read more »
Saml Adams
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I was rather encouraged by the a comment from the Balcony Man that “I would have shot him in the head if I had a gun”. Yes “sheeple” is the correct term. And yes, so long as the EBT card gets refilled, the cable is on and the Obama-phone works, these folks will do whatever the Democrats tell them to do. The Stasi would have loved them. When in Berlin a few years ago, had some time to burn so took a few very long walks around the city. One thing that struck me was that you could still see… Read more »
BillH
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Too bad you can’t legislate self-respect, which includes self-discipline. That would pretty much solve all these problems.

Drake
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I’m assuming none of this nonsense applies to Muslims.

LetsPlay
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Of course not. Western civ has been transformed into what it is today. the Muslim world is the same as it ever was. Maybe our esteemed liberal scientists who tout evolution without intelligent design can explain this anomaly. How can the West change so radically in such a short time while the Muslims have not changed one iota in millennia? (sarc)

Karl Horst (Germany)
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Here’s another German’s take on what’s going on so you can see that many of us feel the same way, despite what the left media is trying to pull over eyes. Obviously more of us Germans are trying to let the rest of the world know that we do know what is going on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cSaup90oVA

guest
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Someone recently called a cop “a girl” in Germany and it went to trial, they had to pay a fine. A comedian also called Erdogan (of Turkey) a goatf**ker in a poem on TV, and Erdogan sued, there’s a little-used Article 103 of the penal code, which concerns insults against foreign heads of state. Mrs Merkel stressed that the courts would have the final word, and it was now up to prosecutors to decide whether to press charges. And rightly so, where have we come if anyone can just insult the fuehrer! Merkel lets comedian face prosecution for Erdoğan poem… Read more »
The Usual Suspect
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You say, and the very title suggests “We’re Doomed” no, we are the past tense of Doomed, now we are dead as a society. Bankrupt, unable to conduct daily business of protecting against enemies and more critically.. from ourselves. “to the detriment to the dead” sound’s Orwellian?

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It would appear that sanity has prevailed and the authorities decided not to proceed with the denunciation.

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I think that what this should illustrate is that when a band of men with guns show up in your neighborhood, how quickly some of your neighbors will side with the dudes with the guns.

Some people are born slaves. Others, not so much.

Al from da Nort
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So, this looks like an even more extreme example of the bizarre elite-feminist – Islamist political alignment that is now out in the open everywhere, not just in Germany*. Rule of Law: Good. Rule of stupid SJW law: Not Good, particularly when your avowed enemies have figured out how to use it against you. The 20+ year history of Muslim Brotherhood front groups (e.g. CAIR) use of law-fare in the US as the point of the Sheria (?) wedge they’re driving into Western society ought to be obvious to anyone paying attention. At least it was to me after I… Read more »
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Balcony man uses this to his advantage, gets elected and causes the German Reichstag to change its laws.

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