Race Realism

The Israeli politician, Abba Eban, once said, “Men and nations behave wisely when they have exhausted all other resources.” A form of this is attributed to Churchill, but there is no evidence he ever said it. References to the apocryphal Churchill quote started appearing in the 1980’s. Like Twain and Voltaire, Churchill gets credit for a lot of pithy sayings, because people believe he would have said them. Regardless of the origin, the assertion is true. Men go to great lengths to avoid the right answer.

We see this with race. Three generations ago, when social reformers and political leaders looked at the condition of the black man, they were presented with three possible explanations. One was biology, the reason most people accepted for the differences between blacks and whites. The other was some form of magic, like God blessed the white race or cursed the black race. The other was culture. The laws and institutions of the nation were rigged against the black man.

It has long been understood by pollsters, marketing men and test designers that when given three options, people will look for the least likely of the three and eliminate that first, so the choice is a binary one. That’s what happened 60 years ago. Magic was eliminated as a possible choice, which left biology and culture. It is also well known that people will always choose the option they want to be true, over the one they wish were not true, despite a mountain of evidence in support of the latter.

Three generations ago our rulers decided that the reason blacks were so far behind whites was culture. They set about changing the laws, creating programs to address past sins, modifying institutions to accommodate blacks and lecturing whites about the sinfulness of racism. The last black to be the victim of Jim Crow, for example, is 75 years old this year. We are reaching the point where no living person was the victim of legal segregation. The majority of blacks now have never experienced real racism.

Blacks would contest that last line and they would have a point. The other day, there was a news story about a white not being properly worshipful of a black. It is these sorts of outrages that perpetuate racism in America. All kidding aside, no black under the age of 50 has had their race used as an impediment to their success. In fact, being black is now an enormous asset for a black person with anything on the ball. The demand for competent blacks far exceeds the supply.

Despite all this, the achievement gap between blacks and whites remains unchanged in measurable areas like education and household wealth. In some areas, like crime, illegitimacy and substance abuse, the gap has grown larger. The gap in SAT scores is higher than ever, despite attempts to rig the tests. For three generations, our betters have rearranged every aspect of American society in an effort to alter the realities of race in America. The results are more of the same.

The only rational conclusion is that culture is not the cause. At the far right of the curve, sure, better social conditions for high IQ blacks have made a difference. For the overwhelming majority of blacks, however, the culture war has been a battle among whites over how much money, in welfare benefits, will be transferred from the white middle-class to blacks. They are no more able to compete in American society than they were when this all started.

That brings us back to the original options. Between culture, biology and magic, our betters, and most Americans, were sure it had to be culture. Now that three generations of social engineering have disproved that argument, we’re left with biology and magic. Our betters, unwilling to accept the reality on the ground are now arguing that the real cause of the racial gap is magic. They don’t call it magic, but that’s what they mean when they chant phrases like “white privilege” and “unconscious bias.”

In fairness, our betters are not embracing oogily-boogily because they believe it. It’s that they cannot bring themselves to embrace biology. Everything about the prevailing orthodoxy depends on the blank slate being true. Even the slightest doubt will cause the whole thing to come crashing down. It’s why kooks like Cordelia Fine get awards for writing books that claim biology is a social construct created by a cabal of white people to oppress women, if women existed, which they don’t.

All human societies need order, otherwise they look like Somalia. Order requires authority and that comes when the people being ruled over accept the people and system that provides order. The king is not going to be king very long if no one accepts his right to rule. Similarly, people will not tolerate a ruling class that is populated by madmen denying reality. This is what brought down the Soviet Empire. Even the beneficiaries of the system could no longer pretend it made any sense.

That’s what is happening today. The reality of race is undermining the moral authority of the system. Everyday, more and more white people wake up from the dream of race denialism. It’s why, despite the lack of sane leaders and a coherent strategy, the alt-right thrives. Whatever their flaws, they are right about the reality of race, which gives them credibility in an age when the ruling class has none. Ironically, it is the weapon of race that gave birth to the current arrangements and it will be race that is its undoing.

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Ryan T
Ryan T
7 years ago

Real wakeup won’t come until the shakeup. White normies need to finally come to terms with the fact that every generation after the boomers is worse off financially despite the appearance of material wealth through debt.

I was thinking this morning that in order for me to have the same situation as my boomer parents did,
(decent job, one income, mortgage, kids) I’d have to be pulling in over $100k minimum just to emulate the middle class in real terms of 45 years ago.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Ryan T
7 years ago

So what’s stopping you from making that?

Caleo
Caleo
7 years ago

Agreed that race realism is, and should be, a foundational pillar of the dissident Right. I find it amusing that progressives and race hustlers now ridicule white normies for being “colorblind”, or claiming that they don’t see color. This attitude should be ridiculed, but let us understand where this attitude came from in the first place. The initial push of the Civil Rights movement was to convince whites NOT to look at race as an individuals defining characteristic. It was black leaders and their white handlers that repeatedly demanded whites become “colorblind”. I was raised in the 70’s and remember… Read more »

Altis
Altis
Reply to  Caleo
7 years ago

Fixed this for you:

“It was black leaders and their (((white))) handlers that repeatedly demanded whites become “colorblind”.

Member
Reply to  Caleo
7 years ago

It is Orwellian doublethink when we are required to be colodrblind and colorconscious simultaneously.

Severian
7 years ago

I wonder if “susceptibility to guilt” isn’t a biological thing, too (the way the “Game” guys like Heartiste go on about “pathological altruism”). Yeah, I was dealt a better hand than most, brains-wise… and I have never, ever, felt the slightest shred of guilt about it, despite all the indoctrination and a conventionally liberal adolescence and young adulthood. In fact, I thank God for it every day. No more do I feel envy that Michael Jordan won the “jump shot” lottery, Brad Pitt won the “handsome” lottery, etc. Such is life…. or, at least, I thought so. But maybe I… Read more »

Drake
Drake
Reply to  Severian
7 years ago

I must lack that gene too. I’ve never felt guilt (or pride) about things I didn’t actually do.

Ryan
Ryan
Reply to  Severian
7 years ago

Noblesse Oblige: “the inferred responsibility of privileged people to act with generosity and nobility toward those less privileged.”

In the late 90’s there was a scandal, art museum in New York opened an exhibit funded by the NDA which was a statue of the Virgin Mary with elephant shit smeared all over it. A lot of bad whites went all “blah blah blah my tax dollars waaaa.” Anyway, I’ve been using it as a useful metaphor as of late for the prog MO.

Take Noblesse Oblige and smear elephant shit all over it. Then you have guilt.

Ryan
Ryan
Reply to  Ryan
7 years ago

Bah, NEA, national endowment for the arts.

bilejones
Member
Reply to  Ryan
7 years ago

Were I Trump, the NEA would be one of the things dead on day one, along with Pubic Broadcasting and all the rest of the Feed A Liberal programs.

bilejones
Member
Reply to  Severian
7 years ago

I’m 4 SD’s up on Stanford-Binet and 6 ft 4″ @240lb so I don’t get fucked with much.
I feel no guilt whatsoever none of it is my fault or achievement.

TomA
TomA
7 years ago

In life, you play the hand you are dealt. None of us got to choose our parents or our genetics. Blacks adapted to life in sub-Saharan Africa, and hence are endowed with physical advantages that enhanced survival in that environment. Caucasians adapted to life in the upper latitudes where seasonal extremes demanded innovation in order to survive long winters of food deprivation. These traits evolved over a period of at least 50,000 years and affirmative action is not going to change DNA in the short term. There is no blame to be placed on any race for the DNA they… Read more »

David_Wright
Member
7 years ago

I posted this on Sailer’s piece today at Takimag.
A two minute clip from a longer video ” Empire of Dust”
Chinese guy flabbergasted at the non development over decades by Africans”

The look on the black man’s face is all you need to see to know how truly hopeless it is for most of them to civilize. Please take a look.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUAnSKG2ML4&t=3s

Caleo
Caleo
Reply to  David_Wright
7 years ago

I’ve seen this video several times and it should be shared as widely as possible.
Zman could write an entire post riffing on this one short scene.
I encourage everyone to watch it.
Race realism in action.

Old Codger
Old Codger
Reply to  Caleo
7 years ago

Someone should do a video on the total decimation of agriculture in Rhodesia after Mugabe and Co. took control from the white Rhodesians. Explains perfectly the total decline of Detroit!

Member
Reply to  David_Wright
7 years ago

Watching that whole documentary is sad and funny. The black people want to cheat the Chinese and the Chinese want to cheat them back.

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  David_Wright
7 years ago

When I was a kid I once worked for a Chinese, a former general. I learned why, even in Africa, they are everyone’s last choice as a boss. But now they are the only choice there. Yet the Chinese have exhibited a surprisingly, for them, good attitude toward the African. They accept the truths of what the African is unequivocally and admire his ability to live in conditions no one else could and still party. Today is the day and tomorrow is a foreign country. Accepting truths is the first and most crucial step in making arrangements that are sustainable.… Read more »

Zeroh Tollrants
Zeroh Tollrants
Reply to  james wilson
7 years ago

I work with w/the Chinese, Koreans, Mexicans in my business. I don’t see this “good attitude” towards blacks or toward Africa or any other minorities. You should go into a manufacturing plant in Mexico, ask them how they like their Chinese bosses. They will pick a fellow AmerIndian, a Mestizo, a white man, but if given the choice, they sure won’t pick a China man to boss them. When I talk to these owners, there’s nothing but disgust and scorn for blacks and browns. They aren’t even that crazy about most white people, to be honest.

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  Zeroh Tollrants
7 years ago

You wiffed on that. I said Chinese are everyone’s last choice of employer. Probably true of the Chinese for that matter. I said that the Chinese in AFRICA have a surprisingly good attitude toward African peculiarities–because they, unlike us, have absolutely no inflated expectations. One million Chinese are in Africa, millions more are coming. They don’t much like China either.

Member
7 years ago

Nobody treats different species of dogs the same, even though they’re all dogs. Nobody would mistake a pit bull for a golden retriever. Different species of dog, and people watch themselves around the pit bulls.

But noooooo, humans are all the same! And if you point out any differences in aptitude or temperament in the different human species – RACIST!!!!! rings out and a million fingers start to wag in your direction.

Ofay Cat
Ofay Cat
7 years ago

Black people need to be shamed for their behavior, not rewarded. Seems as though they have an extra gene that makes them prone to violence and self pity, not to mention irresponsibility, laziness and ignorance.

They have to fix themselves, no one can lose weight or go to the bathroom for you.

IT’S ALL UP TO THEM THERE NEGROES TO GET CIVILIZED AND IT’S OKAY TO EMULATE WHITE PEOPLE, THEY SEEM TO HAVE FIGURED IT OUT, YO!

Guest
Guest
Reply to  Ofay Cat
7 years ago

Well, look around. White people need to fix themselves, too. But if you’re living on the margins, lack of probity is a lot more destructive.

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  Guest
7 years ago

The first thing white people can do to fix themselves is to stop fixing others. Talkin’ to you.

Guest
Guest
Reply to  james wilson
7 years ago

Agree in a sense. I’m down with freedom of association, a moratorium on refugees and immigration, ending affirmative action and reforming welfare yet again.

Calsdad
Calsdad
Reply to  Guest
7 years ago

The reform that welfare needs is to abolish it.

A LOT of problems become self fixing once you stop funding the continuation of those problems.

“what you subsidize – you get more of”

This is basic core economic principle.

Dutch
Dutch
7 years ago

The realization of biology and racial awareness is a male thing. Most women are incapable of accepting that people are fundamentally different and not at all equal in every way. Women tend to look at people, in groups and individually, as equals and everyone gets a turn. Perhaps that is an outgrowth of the catty relationships females have with each other as they mature and the hormones kick in, and they want to get away from that. In any case, males are very hierarchical in their relationships. It is how work environments manage to function reasonably normally–workers take their orders… Read more »

Sharrukin
Sharrukin
Reply to  Dutch
7 years ago

Women will follow wherever the benefits are for themselves. If they see the ‘alpha’ males and the wealth marching off into race realism land they will march too.

Antipas
Antipas
Reply to  Dutch
7 years ago

You’re over-complicating things.. Women chase status.

Old Codger
Old Codger
Reply to  Antipas
7 years ago

Women chase status, a good part of which is provisioning for them and their offspring. They also chase bad boys—apparent Alphas– who provide nasty sex, with the idea of producing children who will survive. Thus, their strategy is hypergamy = AF/BB!

Christopher S. Johns
Christopher S. Johns
7 years ago

I’m especially enjoying the moaning and handwringing by the lefty elite regarding the recent data on SAT scores by race linked above. What’s so delicious about it is that no institution in our society has been as colonized by progressive pieties as education, public and private – the people who populate these institutions are the truest of the true believers. And yet! And yet! What is the awful truth? That blacks continue to fail even when surrounded and supported by the most well-meaning, most encouraging, most understanding whites ever produced by any society anywhere – whites who literally obsess and… Read more »

Member
Reply to  Christopher S. Johns
7 years ago

I read the ridiculous cucked article at the Sci Amer link, and found myself thinking “This must be a Jew.” Imagine my surprise when I got to the end and bumped into author Eric Siegel’s mini-bio.

For the life of me I can’t figure out why our Jewish brethren are so invested in aggrandizing black culture and its concomitant chaos over Donna Reed and apple pie. Is it just dancing wildly around Baal at the foot of Mt. Sinai?

Wilbur Hassenfus
Wilbur Hassenfus
7 years ago

You’re an optimist. White people watch too much TV not to know deep in their hearts that blacks are just like them — only a little more thoughtful, a little more decent, a lot smarter and better at math, and infinitely more hip and authentic.

They know very little about reality.

Tim
Tim
Member
Reply to  Wilbur Hassenfus
7 years ago

I don’t think people are,getting Wilbur’s sarcasm….

Brigadon
Brigadon
Member
Reply to  Wilbur Hassenfus
7 years ago

“Keepin’ it real”

Anonymous White Male
Anonymous White Male
7 years ago

It is funny that Whites were conned into believing everything they “knew” about blacks was “untrue” and harmful to the development of negroes into the same intelligent, hard working, socially cohesive, polite, inventive, trusting, and honorable race as Whites were. Little cracks into their successful White culture were leveraged into sociological truths. Never mind that sociology is not a science, but a joke, we were still forced to use it to make social policy. Part of the high trust society that Whites had led them to trust and believe the experts. Who would never lie to them. Any exception to… Read more »

Member
7 years ago

Which is why I think that race issues in this country are way overblown. Normal people of average intelligence can quickly come to the conclusion that the people who shoot at the police and who burn down the Asian grocery store are the problem. I read something this morning on Drudge about NFL ratings, and how furiously the media is working to say that the decline has nothing to do the behaviors of the players…despite the fact that THIRTY PERCENT of people who say they have stopped watching say they have stopped watching because of these silly/phony “protests”. It’s cord… Read more »

bilejones
Member
Reply to  hokkoda
7 years ago

I’m doing it with my 16 year old boy through the simple method of jeering.

Whenever I see liberal idiocy I point it out and get a snort, snigger and occasional snot.

There’s nothing a 16 year boy likes better than mocking adult stupidity.

Just make sure it’s the right (i,e. left) adult.

Member
Reply to  bilejones
7 years ago

We do the same. Mockery and sarcasm are very effective with teenagers.

Jimmy
Jimmy
Reply to  hokkoda
7 years ago

I have to believe this is a seriously deficient imagination if this is how you see the next 30 years playing out as placidly as this.

Member
Reply to  Jimmy
7 years ago

And you let your imagination run away with you.

As the poet says, “Most of the things I worry about never happen anyway.” (Tom Petty, Crawling Back to You)

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  hokkoda
7 years ago

There’s a lot of truth in that – but there’s a limit. Consider being a Jew in Nazi Germany and trying to ‘navigate the system’ in 1938. Or a high IQ black in the 50’s. We are beginning to find ourselves in the same boat. As our host points out, we are being expected to compromise and accept lunacy ‘because black magic!!!’ We are expected to hire and promote inferior people. That is why you are getting re-educated when all you want to do is watch a football game with your son. America used to be a place where you… Read more »

Member
7 years ago

I love black people. I have a number of brothers and sisters in Christ that are black and I care about them deeply. But I always say to them and others, name a city, state or nation that is majority black that was not an absolute hell hole. That’s the way it is. I wish someone could prove me wrong but they can’t. The best I can get is ancient Ethiopia but that had a huge Jewish (white?) influence through Solomon.

Issac
Issac
Reply to  Chestertonrocks
7 years ago

Ethiopia is a heavily Semitic (first Jewish, later Arab-Muslim) nation. They are almost as distinct from the sub-Saharan Africans as the Coptic Egyptians.

Brigadon
Brigadon
Member
Reply to  Chestertonrocks
7 years ago

I love black people too. If it were legal, I would buy as many as i could afford just to watch them sing spirituals while they work.

Old Codger
Old Codger
Reply to  Brigadon
7 years ago

Such as :

“I get no kick from champagne, (Dooo Waah) mere alcohol doesn’t move me at all…..”…..

Oh….er…uh…. wait!

Ryan
Ryan
Reply to  Chestertonrocks
7 years ago

Anatoly Karlin did a post on Ethiopia recently. Things appear to be looking up for them:

http://www.unz.com/akarlin/ethiopia/

Toddy Cat
Toddy Cat
Reply to  Ryan
7 years ago

I’m not surprised that things are looking up in Ethiopia. They had the closest thing to a civilization that Sub_Saharan Africa had pre-colonialization, and just getting rid of the insane Communist government that they had in the 1970’s nd 1980’s has got to have made a huge difference. But I’ve heard these “African country on the verge of huge breakthrough, just like South Korea” before – Tanzania, anyone? So I’m withholding judgement this time. Best of luck to them, anyway.

tz1
Member
7 years ago

Not quite. It was and is culture, but a strange form. Blacks, that were coming toward parity with whites by 1960, found they could play the race card and become spoiled brats. Have a kid, get a check. Blame crime on discrimination. Blame the results of laziness on bigotry. You see the parallel thing happening with sexism – you don’t see women in high-paying “dirty” jobs. Does biology and race play a role? Undoubtedly. But character matters more, and that was much thinner in 1960, especially up north, but perhaps moreso in the south where the penalties were greatest. Whites… Read more »

Guest
Guest
Reply to  tz1
7 years ago

Yep, blacks did better under worse conditions when the black church was a powerful stabilizing force in the community. Re-evangelization might help, but only blacks can do that for themselves. IQ is not the only predictor of success.

Guest
Guest
Reply to  Guest
7 years ago

I should correct that to “ghetto” blacks. Blacks who gained entry to the middle class are obviously better off today.

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  Guest
7 years ago

A problem there is that the risk for the children of middle class blacks reverting to the state from which their parents escaped is 50%.

Old Codger
Old Codger
Reply to  Guest
7 years ago

You mean those who work for the US Post Office, the IRS or the State DMV???

Issac
Issac
Reply to  tz1
7 years ago

“Blacks, that were coming toward parity with whites by 1960” To the best of my knowledge, Blacks never paced whites cohort for cohort. The slight-of-hand used by Sowell and the like compare the wealthy black cohorts with poor white cohorts which, certainly did come closer to parity in prior epochs. Unfortunately, being incrementally better than the worst of white society is still not good. Jim Crow didn’t come about after the Civil War as a punitive southern reprisal (they didn’t even control their own governments for generations hence). It came about in Northern cities when blacks arrived in large numbers.… Read more »

Guest
Guest
Reply to  Issac
7 years ago

“Character is a function of biology.”
Depends on what definition of character you’re talking about.
“A characteristic, especially one that assists in the identification of a species.”
Okay.
“The moral qualities distinctive to an individual.”
No. Because children are naturally altruistic? No, they’re naturally little maniacs. Character is taught. Over and over again.

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  Guest
7 years ago

The moral qualities distinctive to an individual are are indeed a function of biology and quite varied, as one’s own family constantly prove. When they are problematic special attention must be paid. Character must be stressed more to some than to others. We call a person without character a sociopath, but there are many degrees of that on the way down.

Guest
Guest
Reply to  james wilson
7 years ago

Morality is just a meaningless word without free will. “Catholic teaching on free will recognizes that God has given men and women the capacity to choose good or evil in their lives. The bishops at the Second Vatican Council declared that the human person, endowed with freedom, is ‘an outstanding manifestation of the divine image.’ (Gaudium et Spes, No. 17) As the parable of the Grand Inquisitor in Dostoevsky’s novel, The Brothers Karamazov, makes so beautifully clear, God did not want humanity to be mere automatons, but to have the dignity of freedom, even recognizing that with that freedom comes… Read more »

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  Guest
7 years ago

I am not irresistibly attracted to pretty fourteen year old girls. Some guys are. The difference is inborn. We both have free will. They are going to need to avail themselves of a lot more of it than I am.

Guest
Guest
Reply to  james wilson
7 years ago

So pedos and ephebophiles are “born that way”? Thieves? Liars? Cheats? Morality, virtue, character, whatever you want to call it, is not heritable. I don’t see how that could be proven scientifically, although there have been twin studies.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/236863780_The_Heritability_of_Moral_Standards_for_Everyday_Dishonesty
They smell like bullshite to me.
http://www.apa.org/monitor/apr04/second.aspx

Calsdad
Calsdad
Reply to  tz1
7 years ago

True – the feminists used to constantly bitch about the “glass ceiling” – how there were no women in the corporate boardrooms or in the corner offices.

You never saw them complaining about not getting the chance to go work in the coal mines, work outside in Alberta on the oil rigs, or get the opportunity to smash your head on the ground at a high rate of speed by falling off the high steel.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Calsdad
7 years ago

Yep I see very few of them in my line of work…

Amateur Brain Surgeon
Amateur Brain Surgeon
7 years ago

The other was some form of magic, like God blessed the white race or cursed the black race.

I found that claim interesting becomes it does seem to imply that God is not real. He is real and His covenants came with blessings and curses depending on whether or not men kept of broke the covenants.

There is no magic involved.

Epaminondas
Member
7 years ago

The heretics of the 17th century became the revolutionaries of the 18th. We’re headed there.

YIH
YIH
7 years ago

Several hundred men took to 15* NFL fields to open the 2017 season. So who does the National Football League Players Association honor as week 1 MVP?
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/09/18/colin-kaepernick-shunned-by-the-nfl-named-week-1-mvp-by-the-players-union/23213396/
That thing you see floating by carried on the wind is the NFLPA’s last little shred of credibility.
*Miami game rescheduled due to hurricane.

Drake
Drake
7 years ago

“Three generations ago our rulers decided that the reason blacks were so far behind whites was culture.” I’m way more cynical than that. I believe the Democrats realized in the mid 50’s that there were way more votes to be had pandering directly to the blacks instead of pandering to the whites who don’t like the blacks as they had been doing for a century and a half. So LBJ had them execute an about-face on civil rights, passed a couple of “nigger bills” as he called them, and accurately predicted that the DNC would own the black vote going… Read more »

Member
Reply to  thezman
7 years ago

The coalition of hues assumes a lack of biodiversity, and that the internal contradictions (e.g. the party of Jewish people also being the party of Muslim terrorists) don’t exist. South Asians and East Asians are starting to figure this out. If the Democrats/Left think white people are the most or only racists, man are they in for a surprise. Whites always took a paternalistic attitude towards slavery (and what came next). Much of the rest of the world has no real problem with enslaving people they think are lesser. Nancy Pelosi just got a front row seat to where this… Read more »

Tom
Tom
Reply to  thezman
7 years ago

IMHO retribilizing has a lot of benefits, for instance Feminism will go in terminal decline. A new heroic age is dawning?

el_baboso
Member
Reply to  Tom
7 years ago

I sometimes wonder if the best possible future for our species is the one you allude to… something like the Aztec flowery wars (without the post-festivities human sacrifice) or the pre-Persian War hoplite wars among the Greek city states. A little late afternoon stabbing and jabbing, honor the dead, then back home to get stitched up and tell tall tales over a few drinks. The biggest bad asses get the best looking girls and the population stays relatively stable The death rate isn’t too high since there is only so much killing you can do with spears inn massed formations.… Read more »

Mars Ultor
7 years ago

Zman, the only hole in the biology V culture argument I can see that has any real weight is that all of the efforts by social engineers over the last 50+ years seem calculated to create a dysfunctional culture. From affirmitive action to anti-discrimination laws I cant help thinking that if culture were the culprit, our national policies seem designed to incentivise the worst aspects of black culture and penalize the best. Then again I may have been over influenced by “Black rednecks and white liberals”

Issac
Issac
Reply to  Mars Ultor
7 years ago

The problem with the social engineering cum poorly behaved Scots-Irish theory posited by Sowell is that Scots-Irish frontier populations settled down after the frontier era, despite staying in frontier locations. Poor rural Kentucky populations aren’t as violent as wealthy upper-middle class black populations in suburbs. Furthermore, the explosion of black disruption in the 1960s out of prior black virtue is itself a myth. Northern cities started Jim Crow when blacks arrived in large numbers. They did this not out of a sense of racial animosity (indeed, the arrival of these blacks at-first caused a great outpouring of sympathy and hope),… Read more »

tsnamm
tsnamm
Reply to  Issac
7 years ago

Any cursory examination of crime statistics by race completely negates Sowells argument. By cherry picking specific demographics, he tries to construct an economic argument for crime vs. a racial one. It’s only so much smoke and mirrors.

Al from da Nort
Al from da Nort
Reply to  Mars Ultor
7 years ago

Mars;
Taking a naive stab at the relative weights of HBD vs. culture/nurture from the ‘twin studies literature’, that is, socio/psycho evaluation of human identical twins separated at birth, it looks to be about 2/3 biological/nature and 1/3 nurture/culture. That is, IIRC, genetically identical individuals raised in different milieus were similar in about 2/3 of psychological traits but not in the other 1/3.

This looks like a useful heuristic (rule of thumb) approximation of the relative influences.

Georgiaboy61
Member
Reply to  Mars Ultor
7 years ago

The social engineers who would rule us have awakened to the fact that self-disciplined, highly-intelligent and hard-working people of good morals have little need nor want of an ever-expanding leviathan of government. Their opposites, on the other hand – those people incapable of governing themselves let alone anyone else – present endless possibilities for the expansion of the state into every nook and cranny of our lives. That is the dynamic underlying the vast population replacement scheme now underway in the western world generally and in the USA specifically, as well as the attacks upon traditional men and manhood.

abelard Lindsey
abelard Lindsey
7 years ago

Reading various alt-right/neo-reaction blogs over the years has made me think that there ought to be serious arbitrage opportunities to be found in the differences between reality and what the elites are desperate to believe is reality.

Jimmy
Jimmy
7 years ago

Even the most utterly committed race realist in 1964 would be shocked at the lack of progress on almost literally any front for black Americans since.

Considering the outrageous deference extended to them since that time, it is almost scary.

The theory has been proved by experience beyond bull Connors wildest dreams.

RDG
Member
7 years ago

Essential to improving oneself in any endeavor be it education, sports, salesmanship and on and on is humility. Most blacks in America don’t have it so they can never improve as a race. Individual blacks yes, but the whole no. So this will have no end. Children learn humility; they are not born with it. They learn to admit they were wrong and grow accordingly. So sad black leaders are a bunch of a$$holes. I am currently all out of give a f*cks about them too.

Eclectic Esoteric
Eclectic Esoteric
7 years ago

First they came for the total Nancys and I did not speak out (I’m lying…I laughed.)
http://drrichswier.com/2017/09/20/video-the-fringe-begins-eating-its-own-starting-with-nancy-peolosi/

Member
7 years ago

The madness and corruption of the Soviet Union could’ve kept going, but they were unable to feed themselves and they couldn’t sell enough oil to pay for food imports. The rest of it was what happened when they finally were forced to confront that reality. Gorbi had this bright idea “Hey, let’s give them some freedom and autonomy and maybe we can get the economy active enough to feed ourselves” and instead it led to everyone wanting out and away from. On a bright note, Russia is now a food exporter, something they never managed to be during their communist… Read more »

Al from da Nort
Al from da Nort
Reply to  Owen_Lynn
7 years ago

Owen;
FWIW, I think that Gorby was an naif apparatchik. He actually believed that communism could thrive without the brutal repression that characterized the USSR. Brezhnev, et al, would have never have fallen for such soft headed ideas or actually put them into practice. They might well have seemingly embraced them in abstract to draw the poison of reality.

Tim
Tim
Member
7 years ago

Zman…the kicker is in the last graf, the need for “sane leaders and a coherent strategy.” How is that going to happen?

Jim
Jim
7 years ago

I’ll submit that it IS culture. But a new culture founded on dependence, entitlement and blame.

Throw in a failed education system that relies on soft sciences, administrative rule and ever increasing demands for a monetary solution to the self-imposed problem.

Eclectic Esoteric
Eclectic Esoteric
7 years ago

Biology has always been destiny. Woe is the grievance culture when the cloud people attain red pill satori and emerge from the magical mists of wannabe.

Ryan
Ryan
7 years ago

Wow, this makes me feel old. I remember my first real post-red pill insight in politics with the emergence in 2006 of the Islamic Courts Union in Somalia. It was essentially a bunch of judges and Imams who got together and said “you know what, fuck anarchy. We’re going to establish law and order.” They of course succeeded rapidly as the population celebrated the outbreak of peace. Bad branding though, especially for 2006 with neocons in power in DC. Local powers intervened to destroy the ICU and re-establish war and chaos in a little under 6 months. I think there’s… Read more »

DeWalt
DeWalt
7 years ago

The problem is without white guilt, blacks have to stand on their own accomplishments.

Andy Texan
7 years ago

Very pointed argument. However the path to ‘race-realism’ vis-a-vis economic outcomes is strewn with powerful taboos. None of the conservative talking heads or politicians can brook the cultural explanation and stay in business/elected. On the other hand sports fans have obvious explanations for the physical prowess of blacks rooted in biology should they want to broach the subject.

Occasional Commenter
Occasional Commenter
Reply to  Andy Texan
7 years ago

On the other hand sports fans have obvious explanations for the physical prowess of blacks rooted in biology should they want to broach the subject.

How about we start calling for proportional racial representation in all sports? That all professional sports teams should be composed racially and by gender, according to how the general population is split out?

Make them play by the same (Alinskyite) rules. That might just drive home the stupidity.

Observer
Observer
7 years ago

No. No. No. Whites are not going to simply wake up to “reality”. Because there is no one reality. Reality is what people perceive in their own minds. And most Americans’ minds have been filled with thousands, no MILLIONS, of false, fake & misleading emotions & images about race. When people are confronted with a new concept, or new situation they search inside their mind to search for similar experiences in the database of their personal experiences. If they do not have a personal experience that matches that new concept or situation, they then look for it in the database… Read more »

Anonymous White Male
Anonymous White Male
Reply to  Observer
7 years ago

“Because there is no one reality. Reality is what people perceive in their own minds.” Don’t think so. Delusions and hallucinations would be reality if this were the case. You can perceive in your mind that you can walk off the edge of the Grand Canyon and still keep walking. The reality is you will stop walking and start falling. My personal definition of reality is the physical universe and the actual events that have occurred there following the rules of physics. I believe there are dimensions and frequencies different from ours that we have no way of perceiving, so… Read more »

Caleo
Caleo
Reply to  Observer
7 years ago

Zman can speak for himself, but I don’t get the impression he’s telling everyone to sit tight and stay comfy. Part of breaking the spell is talking about this stuff with others of like mind. Talking about it with each other until we’re blue in the face, talking about it from every conceivable angle and playing with every type of possible solution. Zman, and many other dissident right bloggers, have been seeing their number of visitors growing, in some cases to a very large degree. The Left didn’t just act blindly. Action was preceded by years of talking and writing… Read more »

Tim
Tim
Member
Reply to  Caleo
7 years ago

That’s the way it starts, isn’t it?

Highdesert45
Highdesert45
7 years ago

All races/groups/sections of society that get complete cradle to grave welfare and other entitlements are chronically underachieving. There are plenty of smart Navajo kids that could go on to college and get great careers, but they do not push themselves, and find it hard to excel without constant support systems. Maybe ‘self-sedation’ could be a fourth category…

SWRichmond
SWRichmond
7 years ago

These are all the same arguments our Betters use to keep us in our place as dirt people, two heavily armed the surveillance and police state, to justify all of the force they use against us.

“They’re not as smart as us”.

“Look at how they behave”.

By making these arguments overtly you are in their minds justifying their control of you.

Be careful what you wish for.

William Strinden
William Strinden
7 years ago

As I look at the pro or college basketball court, or the NFL playing field (which I shall watch no more), one would have to be daft not to recognize that there are biologic reasons for the extraordinary preponderance of Black athletes. Don’t give me jack about they practiced more and ran harder. On my best day I could not bench press one of them but one of those linemen could lift me overhead two dozen times. That is biology. Jews have accumulated 20% of Nobel prizes but make up .2% of the population. Biology. We European white guys are… Read more »

Pepin The Short
Pepin The Short
7 years ago

“The only rational conclusion is that culture is not the cause of the black – white gaps we see in American society.” Not agreeing with you here Zman. You’re defining culture here as white culture, specifically white racism towards blacks. There is also black culture though. Call the white racist component and the black culture subcultures under the broader American culture if you like; doesn’t matter. Point is that (IMO) urban black culture has in the past, and continues to in the present, play a major role in preventing blacks from (as you say) being “able to compete in American… Read more »

Pepin The Short
Pepin The Short
Reply to  thezman
7 years ago

Not denying either the argument of welfare state coddling or of genetic differences. Only asking you to consider a role played by the argument originally posited by the Moynihan Report back in ’65; that is the argument that urban black culture (lack of father involvement in the family, de-valuing of education, for examples) play a role in the lack of ability of blacks to compete in society. Personally, I think those on the right who blame only the welfare state or genetic differences are just as incorrect as those on the left who blame only racism or white privilege (whatever… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Pepin The Short
7 years ago

Adding fuel to the fire, as it were.

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  Pepin The Short
7 years ago

Culture is downstream of genetics. That is just as true if genetics are 90% of that equation or 9%. Between Europeans that number would be lower on that scale yet the differences in the play are exceptional. Between Europeans and Bantus the differences are large and represent the difference between human epochs.

Issac
Issac
Reply to  Pepin The Short
7 years ago

“Only asking you to consider a role played” And that’s just the issue, is it not? The whole conversation about black behavioral problems begins and ends with external or “cultural” factors. These haven’t born any fruit in decades. Why should they be up for consideration (for the umpteenth time) now when better information (genetic research, widespread population statistics, longitudinal twin studies) is on the offing? I grant you that the most crass version of genetic determinism should be taken with it’s own grain of salt, but erring on the side of empiricism is only prudent when social sciences are completely… Read more »

Pepin The Short
Pepin The Short
Reply to  Issac
7 years ago

“The whole conversation about black behavioral problems begins and ends with external or “cultural” factors.” Maybe for you it does Issac. For me and plenty of others the conversation about black dysfunction is not about culture exclusively but rather involves many different factors (I said that very clearly in my previous post). Let me ask you to ponder this – would you look at a subculture of dysfunction in white America, poor white trash in Appalachia for example, and boldly declare that culture plays no role this; that it is purely a matter of the genes? “These haven’t born any… Read more »

PropagandaHacker
7 years ago

ok, I don’t really disagree with what you say here, but I think you leave out a major factor…. money…greed…. capitalism… the money/capitalism factor is the prime mover….my theory is that multiculturalism, the bias of the upper class for nonwhites and against whites, is simply an outgrowth of america itself, what america was from the beginning… the child is the father of the man… an old saying meaning that we as people, as adults, we are simply continuations of what we were as children, we are a product of our experiences as children…and our innate characteristics from the beginning created… Read more »

A.T. Tapman (Merica)
A.T. Tapman (Merica)
Member
Reply to  PropagandaHacker
7 years ago

Mass third world immigration was instigated by (((THEM))). The culture of critique was imported by (((THEM))). Globalism is essentially (((THEIR))) thing. If euro-whites had been left to manage their own affairs I believe the western world would be a very different place. Anti-white fever is an (((ALIEN))) infection.

PropagandaHacker
Reply to  A.T. Tapman (Merica)
7 years ago

tapman, do u see joos in your sandwich, too?

A.T. Tapman (Merica)
A.T. Tapman (Merica)
Member
Reply to  PropagandaHacker
7 years ago

What portion of my post do you object to? If I am wrong please tell me why. The white western world is based on individualism, so is not equipped to fight off a stealthy, organized cultural attack. You see the results.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  A.T. Tapman (Merica)
7 years ago

It certainly makes me how much (((influence))) the was after Cromwell.
Ever the dreams of Empire.

Ken
Ken
Reply to  PropagandaHacker
7 years ago

Wow, that is a LOT of tap dancing right there. Amazing what lengths propel will go to to avoid the painful truth that biology matters.

PropagandaHacker
Reply to  Ken
7 years ago

i never said biology does not matter…in fact the FIRST sentence I wrote was that I did not disagree with what he said…but that he missing the big picture…read much????

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  PropagandaHacker
7 years ago

Overlong, though correct.
Note the greatest wars and oppressions are usually within racial groups.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
7 years ago

This was, and is, still largely a war by one white group on another.
Nobody outside wrote our laws.

PropagandaHacker
Reply to  Alzaebo
7 years ago

the war is between the elites and the white working class….the elites have domesticated the professional/white-collar subculture via their influence on the educational curriculum…this domestication has created millions of self-loathing whites…many of whom only pretend to be self-loathing in order to fit in and get ahead in life…. almost all of the alt-right mistake the self-loathing whites for the enemy…these are only the collateral damage caused by the propaganda campaign of the elite…or alternatively they may be seen as weapons of the elite/big-business…. don’t mistake the weapons used by the real enemy as being the actual enemy….when someone hits me… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  PropagandaHacker
7 years ago

Most don’t know that the first settlements, the sponsored Virginia Companies, began with 70,000 white slaves, with an 80% mortality rate.

I concur that it has always been a class war.
Those using foreign troops forget that said troops are using them in return.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
7 years ago

PS- overlong, of course, but I agree with the way you lay it out.
Our betters go thru untold schemes, gyrations, and expense to avoid simply paying the help.
What’s wrong with steady state? Why all this cheating, these schemes?

Spud Boy
Spud Boy
7 years ago

It’s not mostly about biology. It’s mostly about culture. Black culture has been undermined by decades of liberal policies including handouts and promotion of a grievance mindset that tells blacks they are too good to perform menial jobs. Contentiousness and industriousness have more to do with success than IQ; someone with those traits and an IQ of 85 can easily become a valuable contributor to society. Who do you expect to clean the toilets, mow lawns and work manufacturing jobs? Let’s stop pretending that melanin content determines your destiny. My Indian boss’s skin is darker than most American blacks, yet… Read more »

Occasional Commenter
Occasional Commenter
Reply to  thezman
7 years ago

The reason Africa and Haiti haven’t adopted the demonstrated social, medical, and scientific benefits of Western civilization is because doing that would be cultural appropriation, and we can’t have that.

(Do I really need a snark tag?)

Anonymous White Male
Anonymous White Male
Reply to  Spud Boy
7 years ago

“Who do you expect to clean the toilets, mow lawns and work manufacturing jobs?” The natural distribution of intelligence and other personality traits in Whites allows us to have super-intelligent scientists, intelligent men with wisdom, natural leaders, businessmen, engineers, mechanics, and, surprise, those that will willingly clean toilets, mow lawns, and work manufacturing jobs. Whites did this for decades until the Boomer generation was spoiled by the “greatest” generation and assumed they were all supposed to have 7 figure incomes by walking out to the mailbox to collect their royalty checks. And a beautiful wife. And children that were seen… Read more »

Duke Norfolk
Member
Reply to  Anonymous White Male
7 years ago

“hey realized that Doctor Jones had gone to school for more years than they wanted to…”

But more than that, they realized that Dr. Jones was smarter than they were (no, not in every case, etc. etc.).

Now every kid is told that they can succeed at anything they want to. So if they don’t they blame it on some form of discrimination or oppression.

David Wright
Member
Reply to  Spud Boy
7 years ago

Dial up Rush tomorrow and discuss.

Jimmy
Jimmy
Reply to  Spud Boy
7 years ago

This is probably not the blog for you mate.

Took a wrong turn somewhere.

Cloudswrest
Cloudswrest
Reply to  Spud Boy
7 years ago

“How’d that happen? Because he came from a strong family.”

Sounds like biology to me.

Ken
Ken
Reply to  Spud Boy
7 years ago

Yeah, that’s not the argument. But I suspect you knew that, or are you really that stupid to think it’s based solely on the amount of melanin in one’s skin?

Pistol pete
Pistol pete
7 years ago

What a load of crap. Zero supporting documents or any evidence to substanciate your claims.
Is this why asian people are so much more intelligent that white people?
Biology? Nothing but some ignorant Numb nut peddling his own brand of hate. Ready the Bible, get some wisdom. The Lord loves all equally.

Tekton
Tekton
Reply to  Pistol pete
7 years ago

And yet another one who tells us to read the Bible, but neglects to take his own advice. I am a student of the Bible (one who has read it through many times) and I can assure you that no where does the scripture say “the Lord loves all equally”. But Jesus did say…”Ye do err, for ye know not the scriptures”. Do a word search for “hate” in the Bible and you’ll find out that there are many for whom God uses that term…Some of whom He said He hated BEFORE they were even born. Esau, for example, the… Read more »

KEMELYEN
KEMELYEN
7 years ago

Pure nonsense dressed up as intellectualism. Heavily plagiarized as well. If you’re interested in a real dialogue and unafraid of a podcast, contact me

KEMELYEN

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  KEMELYEN
7 years ago

Not a soul around these parts has intellectual pretensions because none wish to be one, and you, twit, are exhibit A.

Vince Gee
Vince Gee
7 years ago

Does this really matter?

The western will soon be Of Color

Also consider that Black Men are the masculine ideal and white girls are increasingly bearing their children

Race realism so called cannot fight demographic change and sexual superiority

Primi Pilus
Primi Pilus
Reply to  Vince Gee
7 years ago

There DO seem to be an awfully lot of feminine males around here in my growing, western town. I spent 27 years in a military system here, and was aware of (and appalled by) the changes in our society. However, daily experience within that military culture cushioned the full impact. Now retired, I see this city populated by soft, pale, beard-sporting and very feminine males — Femen, or overt Femmiboiz. I see them everywhere — open and unafraid … seemingly proud in their conceit. There was change in the military, too, of course, with the growing participation of women and… Read more »

Jimmy
Jimmy
Reply to  Primi Pilus
7 years ago

It’s almost like we are developing into a different species. I mean the physical tells, physiognomy I think they call it, are obvious and incredibly accurate.

Tim
Tim
Member
Reply to  Vince Gee
7 years ago

Hello Tiny!

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Vince Gee
7 years ago

A quick walkthru of a downtown NYC community college, about 17 years ago, proved you correct. Almost no white faces- so few they didn’t register.

Ken
Ken
Reply to  Vince Gee
7 years ago

Hey look, Trent aka “Tiny Dick” Denton got hisself a new handle!!

Wilbur Hassenfus
Wilbur Hassenfus
Reply to  Vince Gee
7 years ago

Normal white women don’t think much of black men. Stupid, unemployable, and lacking all self control isn’t the masculine ideal in any place that has paved roads and running water. They want men who can keep a job, stick around, and act civilized in public. Barring a few masochistic crazies, the white women who go that way are disgusting specimens with no better options. A few lower-quality middle class girls believe the bullshit they see on TV and try it once, but they learn better pretty quick and they’re ashamed of it for the rest of their lives. We have… Read more »

bilejones
Member
Reply to  Vince Gee
7 years ago

“white girls are increasingly bearing their children”
Where do you live?
I’ve seen no evidence of it in Eastern PA and Northern MD.

tsnamm
tsnamm
Reply to  bilejones
7 years ago

And if they do, the black guy runs away. Making babies and raising children, are 2 completely different things to a shiftless, lazy black. That’s why Fathers Day is the most confusing day in the hood…

Old Codger
Old Codger
Reply to  Vince Gee
7 years ago

If black men are the “Masculine Ideal” how come so many of them in inter-racial relationships are stuck mostly with fat, homely white girls or thin barren blonds?