The Burning Of Notre Dame

As news spread of the fire consuming the Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris, the first reaction of most people was shock and sadness. You don’t have to be Catholic or French to feel as if some part of you has been lost. That was not just an old building or a historically important place. It was a symbol of Western civilization. Stand inside a great church and you feel the awe and power that inspired the builders. That cathedral was the primal roar of a people celebrating their creator and the essence of who they were as a people.

Of course, it did not take long for people to notice that its burning was a metaphor for the current crisis in the West. As Europe is swamped by Muslims, promising to replace Europeans in their own lands, it is only a matter of time before the great churches are turned into mosques or destroyed. Despite the endless propaganda from our rulers, most people here and there, are well aware of what’s happening. They don’t know how to articulate it or react to it, but they know. Watching the fire, they knew what it meant.

Not everyone had this reaction. The first reaction of Ben Shapiro was to make jokes about the fire and mock Trump’s tweet about it. This makes perfect sense. He hates Trump and what he represents, so his natural instinct, regardless of the mood of the room, is to attack him. Despite his ridiculous claptrap about Judeo-Christianity, to Ben Shapiro, that cathedral was just a funny looking old building. It meant nothing to him. That fire meant no more to him than seeing an apartment block burn somewhere in Los Angeles.

In the fullness of time, that inability to pipe down and shut up while his target audience mourns the passing of their heritage, will be a turning point in the Potemkin cult of Ben Shapiro. Even the most blinkered of normies was taken aback by such a crude and malicious statement. He was not the only one to slither out of the shadows and reveal his nature in the light of the flames. Those strangers invited in by our rulers were quick to remind us why they should never have been allowed to come to our lands.

That anger people feel is not the sort of barbaric rage our rulers assume is in the heart of every white man. There will be no occidental riots or calls for pogroms against the invaders. It’s a slow buzz as the batteries charge up, waiting for the moment somewhere down the line when the circuit is finally closed. That’s how these things go. Decent people are willing to tolerate what seems like an unlimited amount of deprivation from their rulers, but it reaches a point when the batteries are charged and the circuit is closed.

That’s why it is good to watch the footage and follow the coverage of this thing. Many of us have disconnected from the news, because it’s just propaganda. You can be sure the media will first try to wave it all away as an accident, but we know how they would be reacting if it was a dumpy old mosque or a synagogue that burned, rather than a masterpiece of Western civilization. We know. Everyone knows. Watching it will make you a little angry, but that’s a good thing. We need to charge those batteries.

Obviously, we’ll never know what really caused the fire. A black church burns and the usual suspects tell us there is a rash of hate crimes against black churches. Catholic churches all over France have been burning for years and we’re told it is a racist conspiracy theory to see a pattern. The same will happen here to people who wonder how an unoccupied building that withstood air raids suddenly caught fire in two places. It will be infuriating, but it just charges those batteries a little more each time you hear it.

Even if the cause was recklessness by some workers, that’s probably worse. Like America, this kind of work in Paris is done by foreigners now. The work crews are no doubt Algerians, Tunisians and maybe some Africans. The few French involved spend their time keeping these tribes from murdering one another. To these strangers, that cathedral was as meaningless to them as the fire. There, as here, the cost of cheap labor is the loss of your heritage. Is cheap stuff really worth feeling like this every day?

Of course, the other charging source that comes from consuming the news coverage of this event is the reminder that we cannot believe anything we are told now. Before the roof collapsed, the authorities were telling us it was not arson and not terrorism. In other words, they were more concerned about the feelings of the foreigners than what this event was doing to their own people. These events are a reminder that the West is ruled by strangers, who see no difference between a Tunisian goatherd and patriot from Lyon.

It’s a sad thing and you should be angry. Even though that anger is more like a building charge, it can still be put to good use. When your normie friend brings up Ben Shapiro or his nonsense about Judeo-Christianity, give him a little shot of that charge. When you are preparing for a day of box wine auntie and her nutty talk about the glories of diversity, give yourself a little shot of that charge, so you can be prepared to make her miserable with your mocking of her piety. Put that anger to good use in your daily life.

To borrow a turn of phrase, the burning of Notre Dame is not the beginning of the end, but the end of the beginning. These events open eyes and make the minds of our fellows receptive to the arguments we make. The subversive seeks to convince you to look away from the fire, so you don’t see what is happening. The revolutionary wants his people to look into the fire, so they can see what he sees. We’re all revolutionaries now. Our job is to take events like burning of Notre Dame and make more revolutionaries.

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I’ll quote Mike Vanderboegh–a bit of a nutcase, but a keen observer of many things: “Because let me tell you something about white folks at their worst. When they get scared that people are trying to kill them just because of who they are, when they get pissed off along racial lines, they don’t tear up their own neighborhoods or burn down their own communities like y’all do. They come to the neighborhoods of the people who threaten them and burn THEIR communities down and kill THEM. They have burned down whole CONTINENTS. And if you don’t believe me, just… Read more »

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I just don’t believe in that. Even within specific ethnicities there are tremendous variables. The Greek Regiments from Crete were absolute warriors but the Cyprus Regiment just weren’t. It’s a comforting thought but I fear we’re more like Afrikaners, not especially capable of coherent resistance without it being state sponsored. Just being white doesn’t cut it. The reactions are either nothing or supremely wicked retardation by lone nut jobs like Roof or the guy who shot up the Tree of Life Synagogue. Alternatively when groups like the Proud Boys actually mount effective and sensible actions, they get thrown under the… Read more »

Bob
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I hear the talk about “nice until we’re not”, but no one ever gives examples. I suppose you could point at the world wars, but that was a different time with different people. Some of those soldiers were in lynch mobs for certain individuals who were too friendly to their daughters. What have we done recently? That said, if we ever tried to organize ourselves for defense, it would likely be run as well as your local businesses. Better than a mob, but we’re not going to get too much done (Malheur OR anyone?). I say this so we can… Read more »

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The question is also whether a fellow wants to actually win or a fellow just wants a race war or something. There are men who would rather lose as long as they got to shoot at people. Plus nobody is really willing to define what we they want and why, not really. And here’s the kicker, I really don’t think anybody realizes how race is just about the thinnest bond of loyalty you can have in practice. I know some people reading this have already switched off and are running CivNatHate.exe, but I haven’t actually said anything civic nationalist yet.… Read more »

Bob
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I agree. I know zero people who will feel loyalty based on race… who are white. I’m under the impression that blacks have a rather monolithic culture, while whites have lots of semi-recognized, semi-compatible subcultures, and the Spanish easily congregate/segregate into where they or their parents are from. Whites can’t unite in the US for the same reason whites in Europe can’t. I think this guy (https://aidanmaclear.wordpress.com/2019/03/03/nationalism/) made a good point that people can be truly loyal to local people who are similar to them so a “nation” is way too abstract. We are still so steeped in the poz… Read more »

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Even among black people they absolutely see distinctions between themselves as well; Africans don’t count for some (kind of like the differences between American Anglo Saxons and Englishmen) and West Indians are better but still “different”. In Houston, Frenchtown was the home of mixed raced blacks from Louisiana, they didn’t want to live among what they viewed as “low class” locals (who also didn’t care for the “snobby” Louisianans).

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I didn’t know that about Houston. I’m curious how much it’s still like that. I think recent African immigration might create new groups, like the Somalis. The reason I’m a little skeptical is that, though I’m not a traveler, I’m also skeptical that the eleven American nations are as distinct as they used to be. I grew up on the east coast in a very liberal area. You could see a distinct difference between the (rather conservative and white) people who had family that’d been there for generations and the numerically superior (liberal and white) people who’d moved in for… Read more »

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Educated.Redneck
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Hoyos says: “race is just about the thinnest bond of loyalty…”
Except for every major war, genocide, and mass migration in human history and pre-history. You may have heard of the last race war, where the Caucasian US fought off the invasion of the Oriental Japanese empire; maybe reconsider how race played a role in that conflict, how the Nipponese raped and massacred their Han, Caucasian, and Korean racial enemies on an explicitly racial basis, then rethink what you said.

Hoyos
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Except the Koreans are the same race as the Japanese, they are genetically indistinct. It’s why Koreans have been “passing” as Japanese whenever they can get away with it. The Japanese didn’t care about “race” it was the Japanese nation. Their racial first cousins were all one to them, it was Japanese or not Japanese.

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The question is: inside whose civilization are we fighting?

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

Hoyos: “…race is just about the thinnest bond of loyalty you can have…”

The future is unpredictable so if order breaks down we must align ourselves with what is most trustworthy.

Hoyos, in a time of upheaval and limited information, what group would you choose:

• Same race but all other factors very dissimilar
• Same religion or politics or lack but all other factors very dissimilar
• Same social class or IQ but all other factors very dissimilar
• The people who live within a 5 mile radius of you

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I wonder if it will ever be rebuilt with swarms of Muslim labor – or just burn again in a few years. Future site of the Grand Mosque of Paris?

Hoyos
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Hoyos

As much as we may mock the French as lay downs, the ethnic French have managed 22 straight weekends of rioting and so far we can’t manage one.

Hun
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Hun

And they achieved nothing.

Educated.Redneck
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Educated.Redneck

Correction: the enemy’s propaganda organs tell us there has been nothing achieved. The truth? Who knows, but thousands of people don’t show up 22 weeks in a row if they have no results or purpose.

Hoyos
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Hoyos

Hell dude at least they’re trying and they actually got Macron to back down a few times. They’re slowing the enemy down a bit.

Carl B.
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Shapiro, Shepard Smith, Bret Baier, Bill Kristol, et al – we have your number.

kleist
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Shaprio issued an apology via tweet: “Deleted my tweet joking about Trump and Notre Dame football. Wrong time, obviously. Apologies, all.” Why not accept his apology?

DeBeers Diamonds
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DeBeers Diamonds

Shapiro is fundamentally insincere. He’s an Orthodox Jew with a largely Christian following. But yet he doesn’t feel the slightest pull to do the right thing and convert.

He clearly identifies with Israel more than he does with anything Western except for perhaps “classical liberalism”, or the ability to make as much money as possible. So why doesn’t he move to Israel, well, he likes making money and didn’t want to serve in the IDF.

JimP
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because he’s a sniveling a$$hole who’s been after Trump’s ankles for years.

when you have such a punchable face the smart move is to keep quiet when a monument of Western Civilization is burning.

Karl McHungus
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Karl McHungus

Why don’t you accept that Shapiro is treacherous little worm? If his ND tweet didn’t open your eyes, nothing will, Magoo.

Mcleod
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Mcleod

Because no one with two brain cells to rub together believes the apology is genuine.

Saml Adams
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Saml Adams

Sorry, but Benny “triple crowned” himself in one tweet.

Issac
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Issac

Shut it down!

Bill
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Bill

He didn’t apologize for his snotty remarks. He just indicated there would be a better time to make them.

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Prescient.

Rogeru
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Rogeru

[holocaust joke]

Too soon? Apologies all.

[lynch mob enters]

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When a jerk like Shapiro serves up a Freudian Slip©, his apology is like trying to pull the shade back down.

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

You mean like trying to pull the lampshade? Oh gawd!

ConservativeFred
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ConservativeFred

So according to Ben there is a “right time” to joke about this?

I’ve internalized it.

Lorenzo
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Lorenzo

“Wrong time, obviously. Apologies, all.” Why not accept his apology?”

Because there’s never a right time to use the loss of a treasure of Western civilization for anti-Trump giggle. That’s why.

What a repulsive little snot.

Dr. Mabuse
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“Oops, my timing was off!” is not an apology. It’s an involuntary flinching in the face of unexpected backlash. It’s the same as the infamous memo from Jo Moore, a British government apparatchik, who wrote “It’s now a very good day to get out anything we want to bury,” as the Twin Towers were collapsing. Mark Steyn wrote about her: “When the memo came to light, Ms Moore apologized, sort of. But it’s one of those political apologies, whereby one is obliged to distance oneself from an unintended self-revelation. September 11th was an unspun world; within 48 hours, we’d adjusted… Read more »

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Apologies by public figures are worthless. Always assume they meant what they said. If Shapiro was half as smart or as supportive of the Christian part of “Judeo-Christian” as he wants us to believe, he would have known better. His TDS and his mean spirit were on display for everyone to see. Apology not accepted. This one demands a duel.

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Shapiro also didn’t really apologize. He admitted a tactical error with his “wrong time, obviously”. As is, the wound is too raw currently. But he did not apologize for the substance. Also, he wrote “apologies all”, which first of all is kind of feminine, and but more importantly is in the passive voice mistakes-were-made vein. I disagree with Vox Day on alot of things, but one thing he gets absolutely right is the ridiculousness of the term “Judeo-Christian”. It’s a rhetorical slight of hand, and makes no more sense than “Muslim-Christian” or “Buddhist-Christian” when closely examined. Vox has written that… Read more »

A.B. Prosper
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He wouldn’t accept our if we made some inappropriate joke about a synagogue so we own him nothing.

Flyover Deplorable
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Flyover Deplorable

“Why not accept his apology?”

Because the apology itself was as off-handed, cavalier, and Jewy as the tweet.

“Wrong time,…”

Does he think there could be a “right time” to make such a joke?

DeBeers Diamonds
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DeBeers Diamonds

In real time we saw Muslims/Blacks celebrating. That image will be hard to push out of people’s minds.

Ben Shapiro embarrassed himself again, a replay of the cringe from the March for Life in January. His credibility is reaching Dinesh-levels, and his target audience of Millennials are less pliable than aged Boomers.

Whenever someone uses “Judeo-Christian” replay with “Abrahamic”. We should strive for being equidistant towards Jews and Muslims. Good luck to the classical liberals trying to shoehorn Islam as a part of “Western values”, regaling us about the tolerant Al-Andalus and Ottoman Empire.

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I remind people that Judaism is an explicit, deliberate rejection of Christianity (as is Islam). Neither religion is our buddy or part of our “shared tradition.”

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Islam recognizes Christ as a Prophet. Not so the murderous Jews.

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Viewing Christ as merely a prophet is plenty heretical. Christ is the messiah and the savior. Mohammed’s failure to acknowledge that identifies him as a false prophet and Islam as a false religion.

It doesn’t even make sense. How can Jesus be a prophet of Islam when he says things that directly conflict with Islam? Islam is a religion for people whose brains have been baked in the sun too long.

Exile@Pioneer19
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Bindi huckster Dinesh & Shapiro are both great examples of the slimy operators who hijacked the Tea Party movement. They’re losing steam outside Boomer circles. On that front, we’re winning.

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Tykebomb

Ben Shapiro was a good listen back in 2016, but hes gotten increasingly annoying as I’ve moved further right. First, becuase I thought he was merely ignorant then as he revealed himself as a lying propagandist.

But the tweet about how Notre Dame represents “Judeo-christian values” as a historical cathedral burned made me hate him.

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The sacred task of that class of people: for all that is worthy which is not their own–join it, subvert it, and retain the original shell as cover for hostile inversions of customs, meanings, and words themselves.

Saml Adams
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Saml Adams

His niche is going on college campuses and humiliating stupid 20 year old proto-Marxists. He should stick to his competency.

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Desert Rat

I have never been to France and have seen Notre Dame cathedral only in photos and films. I am not Catholic. Yet my initial reaction was shock, then real grief at such a loss and then real anger. And the anger was directed immediately at muslims because this disaster is something that muslims do: destroy the symbols of the civilization they intend to conquer. Muslims murder people in the present and murder the foundations of their hated kafirs’ culture. Z has it right about this. My first thought was that some muslim(s) set the fire deliberately and my second thought… Read more »

BadThinker
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BadThinker

This shock-grief-anger progression is of the similar kind that I felt when I read about that poor boy in Minnesota who was thrown off the balcony by a diverse individual.

Range Front Fault
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Range Front Fault

I read in newspeak that that the effing A**hole vibrant was mad because after wandering through the mall hitting on white women to get laid (great line, Dude), he failed, got pissed, decided to kill a white person, again wandered through the mall the next day and didn’t find the right white person to kill, until the following day he found the little boy to kill and hurl into the void. Now you can get laid, right?! Not the first story heard about vibrant on the white nookie prowl to get laid, failed, then killed.

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Pretty much the same here. Never been to France, never seen the cathedral except in photographs. And I’m not Catholic. My initial reaction was the same: shock. My thought was: I bet some Muslim burnt the thing. Then I started seeing the stories pop out about how many churches have been burnt in France, and I also saw a blog post indicating that the people working on these structures are HIGHLY trained – and had left work at 6:00. Then the fires started around 6:30 – and started in two places. Seeing as how so many churches in France have… Read more »

Flyover Deplorable
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‘…the assumption that it WAS islamic terror will be occurring to millions of us…”

The more crucial assumption that millions of us should make is that It was Jewish perfidy that led to Islamic terror in White countries.

Da Booby
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Z.

The Booby hopes you’re right, he truly does. But if popular culture and the “normies” as you call them can’t muster an iota of outrage for an ABC executive who was glad for the Las Vegas mass-shooting because country music fans are Republicans, then the Booby is skeptical that they will care one iota over the burning of a building.

If this ignites some pride and love for Western Civilization then great, but let’s hope it’s not just another symbol of how irretrievably deep we’ve sunk.

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Oh, and where was President Macron’s outrage two weeks ago when there was a spate of vandalism against Catholic churches in France?

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1102958/christian-persecution-france-catholic-church-christianity-religion-edouard-phillipe-isis

Oh right, we must keep quiet about such things.

Yves Vannes
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During the past year 875 churches have been vandalized or set on fire in France. A single year…875 accidents…

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/04/875-catholic-churches-in-france-were-vandalized-in-2018-by-radical-secularists-and-muslims/

Rogeru
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If Rotherham and similar cases didn’t cause a reaction, I doubt the burning of an ancient church in a secularising country will.

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“The work crews are no doubt Algerians, Tunisians and maybe some Africans.”

Go through any major airport and look who’s in charge of security. We have turned over many crucial jobs to people who either openly or secretly hate us. You are right. We should use the Notre Dame fire to light yet more fires.

BadThinker
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PIT is still not bad, it’s mostly a jobs program for poor, low IQ whites, with a sprinkling of diversity. But it ceased being a major airport when US Airways moved to Charlotte.

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I recently saw a TSA agent in a hijab.

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I am so glad Ben Shapiro has so little impulse control. The normies need to be made aware of how much he hates them and holds them in contempt.

Billions of dollars being pledged to rebuild it. It’ll never be rebuilt. They don’t have the will and the graft will just siphon off all that money. And personally I don’t want them to rebuild it because I know they will just be building a mosque

Rogeru
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Saw an article saying over 600 million has been pledged. Several Jewish names in the list. My guess, it’ll be some kind of interfaith museum of tolerance.

DeBeers Diamonds
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DeBeers Diamonds

Legally the building is owned by the French Government, not the Church.

It’s also a convenient way for the rich to escape the wrath of Gilets Jaunes. Almost like Macron stands to benefit.

Yves Vannes
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Macron promises to rebuild the cathedral with MODERN French values. This could result in some monstrosity that will resonate even more than the fire will.

Dr. Mabuse
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Of course it will. And Pope Shitty will be there when it opens, squirming on his belly in the dirt before the triumphant Mohammedans grabbing the place of honor.

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“My guess, it’ll be some kind of interfaith museum of tolerance.”

And that’s precisely what it should NOT be. It was a Catholic church, and as a Catholic church it should be rebuilt. And if that’s what the plan is, and the actuality shows it congruent to the plan, I will cheerfully donate to that.

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Leaving it half destroyed like the “peace shrine” in Hiroshima just might be the most fitting end. Rebuilding it invites more attacks, while leaving it as-is somehow makes it a “sacred space”. If the Catholic Church was not such a pedo-cuckfest at the top, I might feel differently. France and Western Europe, given their priorities, own this thing, one way or another.

Ironic that the Louis Vitton and Gucci billionaires are behind the rebuilding, as they are front and center in reaping the benefits of the cultural destruction of their country over the last few decades.

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that only works —has a point, if the commonly accepted reason for it’s destruction has some moral meaning beyond, ‘meh, it was an accident, stuff happens.’ Cf. Oradour-sur-Glane

Exile@Pioneer19
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From a red-pilling standpoint, they will do us a favor if they handle the Notre Dame restoration like 9/11’s Ground Zero. Can we can get Ben to start tweeting for a Holocaust memorial on the site?

Yves Vannes
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Sunday was Palm Sunday, the first day of Holy Week, so all of the churches would have been full, people would have dressed up a bit and paraded about town a bit more than usual with their palm branches in hand.

After this very public display of European heritage I’m sure the darkie invaders weren’t at all rustled and it was purely an accident that couldn’t have been avoided.

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And I’m sure it’s a coincidence that this is the 10th church that’s burned in France this year

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500 plus vandalized.
in one year,

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The crown jewel is Chartres Cathedral. Let’s hope the French will protect it.

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Sorry. It’s coming down and you know it

Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal,

Mcleod
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Yeah, I’m not buying what they’re selling either. Palm Sunday, churches burning all over France, and the media pulling the trigger on the, “it’s not terrorism” a little too quickly.

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When I heard about this my first thought was – it’s near Easter, France is full of Muslims, yellow vest unrest still going on and probably keeping the authorities distracted, gotta be terrorism. Now of course this was based on no evidence whatsoever. An article on Foxnews.com (https://www.foxnews.com/world/notre-dame-cathedral-fire-being-investigated-as-accident-for-now-prosecutors-say) today says “Paris police will investigate the disaster as ‘involuntary destruction caused by fire’ and have ruled out arson and potential terror-related motives for starting the blaze, officials said.”. Last night though they were talking on the news about how difficult it was to get to the spot they think the blaze… Read more »

Dutch
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Might be an accident, and it might not be. What they tell us isn’t worth two cents, as they lie about everything else and spoon feed us what they want us to think, every day about everything.

Mcleod
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Unrelated story. My brother is a rural doc and coroner for the rural county, and as such he is friends with the local emergency personnel. The fire Marshal (or what ever the hell they’re called) told him that if a rednecks guns burned up in a house fire it was guaranteed to NOT be arson. If, however, the guns were safe, it might be arson, or it might be that they got the guns out of the house before the family pictures.

Yves Vannes
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There were still 15 workers around the structure when the blaze started in the early evening.

The authorities know for certain it was an accident… Meanwhile the 50 investigators(commissars) who will examine the cathedral still have no access to the site, waiting for the structure to stabilize.

Vegetius
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Our greatest obstacle is not ignorance, nor miseducation, nor disorganization, nor even our enemies and the lies they tell.

What we must overcome is the normal, natural, perhaps even healthy response to horror that is denial.

Chiron
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Everytime I see some public figure mentioning “Judeo-Christian” values I know that I’m in front of a con man.

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They don’t use the correct phrase “Abrahamic”, because a lot of the Right is pacified by rube bait against Muslims. Using this phrase in regular conversation would expose the marginalization of Christianity, so instead they used a contrived phrase with no history other than Zionist partisanship.

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I like the “Abrahamic” approach – it lets Christianity stand on its own feet again. I’ve always been leery of the idea that Christianity is the Jewish junior varsity. I became Catholic in part because Chrisitian Zionism has utterly converged American Protestantism.

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An 870 year-old cathedral, taking over 200 years to build, using countless wood fires to keep the workers warm, millions of candles over the centuries–and no major fires. Yet, in 2019, this magnificent symbol of Western Civilization and Christianity (not “Judeo-Christian at all) burns down because of “some construction materials”? And as the fires consumed the cathedral–fires that apparently ‘started’ in two separate places–French officials rushed to assure the sheeple that arson (and terrorism) was already ruled out. How comforting. I do not believe in coincidences. Not in today’s world. Not when TWELVE CHURCHES in France in recent weeks have… Read more »

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For my daily Scripture reading yesterday, the Gospel was Mt 21:18-22. The morning after he cleanses the Temple, Jesus comes upon a fig tree, and when he finds no fruit on it, he says “May no fruit ever come from you again.” I recalled this curse many times yesterday as Notre Dame burned. The people of Israel gave us the Patriarchs, Moses, the Prophets, the Blessed Mother, and of course Our Lord himself, but since AD 30 or so they have contributed exactly nothing of worth to civilization. They are a barren tree. All they seem to be able to… Read more »

Julian
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Julian

The cure for polio.

What are we to conclude?

You are a dope.

Tully Bascombe
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Tully Bascombe

And you’re a cuck

Murray
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You are a dope. Well, I’ll happily plead guilty to that, and I admit that I allowed my rhetoric to get in the way of precision, so thanks for allowing me the opportunity to clarify. There’s no doubt that Jews, residing as aliens in civilizations built by others, have made numerous technical advances, some of which have been enormously beneficial. Others (many, many others) not so much. But Jonas Salk et al were standing on the shoulders of giants. Christian men, acting self-consciously as Christian men, built the philosophical, artistic, and architectural foundations of European civilization, including the scientific method,… Read more »

Jack Boniface
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Notice the names. From InfoWars: “People reacted with ‘laughing’ emojis to a Facebook feed of the historic Notre Dame cathedral engulfed in flames, video shared on social media shows.” https://www.infowars.com/wtf-why-are-people-laughing-as-notre-dame-cathedral-burns/

TomA
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What has our heritage bequeathed us? We are hearty, resilient, multi-talented, reticent, and innovative. That is a formidable skill set. It just needs to be rousted from the recesses of evolutionary memory and break through the crust of what affluent life has burdened us with. The time is getting near. Watch the Yellow Vests. My guess is that they will go hot soon. Vive la Notre Dame.

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JR Ewing
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I commented on another, slightly more mainstream, blog that “Maybe if it’s terrorism, it will be a good thing? Maybe it will get the attention of the French and other Europeans that they have to stop the invasion?” and I was met with a chorus – including the blog author – that I was a bad person because I was wanting it to be terrorism and “wishing for the worst” and “after all, the French aren’t really Christian anymore either, and that started long before the muslims showed up.” Technically he’s right, but maybe in shedding more light on the… Read more »

JR Wirth
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JR Wirth

The problem with many if not most Europeans is that they’re wholly unworthy of the architecture around them, built by long dead people. Everything can be rebuilt, including churches, but cultures take a dozen generations to be rebuilt. So much has been lost in the last half century (actually, the last century). I find the burning of Notre Dame to be a metaphor of French faith, which never recovered that much after the revolution. As a matter of fact, the crisis of European and American civilization is a crisis of faith. I really doubt that the average Frenchman, who only… Read more »

Rogeru
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Rogeru

“you don’t know what you’ve got til its gone. “

Nunnya Bidnez, jr.
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Nunnya Bidnez, jr.

“they paved paradise and put up a parking-lot”

Rogeru
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Rogeru

The parking lot is for a holocaust museum.

BadThinker
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BadThinker

It started with the Culte de la Raison. Then they realized that wasn’t working, so they tried the Culte de l’Être suprême. Finally they just decided to descend into hedonism.

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Felix_Krull

I really doubt that the average Frenchman, who only walks into churches for funerals, is that stirred by this.

Then you don’t know many average Frenchmen. Unlike Anglos, the French are immensely proud of their culture and their history.

The Frogs you see pontificate in the international media, are cut from the same cloth as American MSM prostitutes, they’re not French, they’re globalists first, Parisians second, homosexuals third, and so forth, and somewhere way down the list, yes, I suppose they’ve got a dash of French blood in them.

stilicho
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stilicho

France is more diverse than anywhere else in western Europe.

Feelings are nice and all but they should translate into action at some point. Immense pride and yet no pushback is materially the same as apathy.

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Felix_Krull

Feelings are nice and all but they should translate into action at some point

They’ve been rioting in the streets for months.

Granted, Frenchmen riot at the drop of a hat, but this time is different.

Nori
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Nori

Whether it was accidental or deliberate is the hot topic across the blogosphere. I was called a “conspiracy theorist” for suggesting the Religion of Peace (who have targeted Notre Dame before) might have something to do with it. Z’s take is absolutely spot on,bless you,man. Watching that exquisite cathedral burn,at the start of Holy Week no less. Those pictures of the spire dissolving in flames was iconic,like watching Western Civilization collapse before our eyes. The sight of young Parisians on their knees in prayer as it burned,belies the notion that France is totally secular now. We will learn much from… Read more »

Tono Bungay
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Tono Bungay

Yeah, the weird timing of it is suggestive—these Muslims seem to have a sense of humor that way: “9/11” , if we believe Muslims were really the perps in that instance.

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Felix_Krull

Moslems can’t count to eleven without zipping down their pants. But who do we know with a religious devotion to numbers?

bc3b
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bc3b

The media loves to speculate when it promotes a leftist agenda.

BadThinker
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BadThinker

Supposedly the firm doing the restoration hired Frenchmen, not foreigners. But given that many ‘Frenchmen’ are Algerians or Tunisians, who knows….

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6927801/Notre-Dame-construction-boss-boasted-firms-abilities.html

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Macron promises to rebuild Notre Dame “in a way consistent with our modern diverse nation.”

https://archive.ph/fUdwq

Jay
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Only a true Nazi could bitch slap Ben Shapiro after muslims burn Notre Dame. Right it is not his religion and the catholic church has not been good to his people, but Jews know western civilization is partly theirs and its end burns them too,

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Calling people Nazis is sooo two years ago. Didn’t you get the memo? We don’t care anymore. As you have aptly demonstrated, “Nazi” and “anti-Semite” just mean “Someone who said something Jews don’t like.” Shapiro is getting exactly the criticism he deserves.

And if Jews are so bummed about the end of Western Civilization, maybe it would be a good idea for them to stop hurrying it along with mass immigration, corruption of traditional values and hate campaigns against Whites.

If they stopped all that crap, then maybe we could talk. Maybe. It’s hard to forget.

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Especially after we burned down part of our own civilization and killed millions of Europeans just to save their sorry asses.

Karl McHungus
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Karl McHungus

C’mon, that’s nonsense and you know it. We wouldn’t even let one boat full of them in. WWII had exactly 0 to do with jews (other than them being among/some of the victims)

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Why the down votes? It’s absolutely true that the treatment of Jews had zero to do with why the US or any of the allied nations fought WW 2. It’s a matter of historical record.

Compsci
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Compsci

Jews I know/follow, even some popular media type, are as conservative as the day is long. No, they have not reached the level of this group—but how many have? For example, a repeated topic of discussion by some like Dennis Prager is “Why are Jews so liberal?” Never heard a good answer to that, but the question is the same posed as here, albeit in different formulations. It may make for better/concise argument to generalize wrt broad swathes of folk under the rubric of “them and us”. I’ll leave that up to Z-man. But I don’t see the benefit of… Read more »

Rogeru
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Rogeru

How can you tell? Are you going to make the good jews wear a star? This is the beginning of magic soil theory, that anybody who shares our values is us and should be accepted. They aren’t and shouldn’t. They can go be good conservatives in israel.

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

Although I wouldn’t rule out short term tactical alliances, a powerful argument against allowing many J3ws into a group or country is that many of them always feel vulnerable as a minority, make open borders one of their highest priorities, and devote their considerable skills to that end. Their need to dissolve the homogeneity of their host countries is constant over time and apparently cannot be mitigated.

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LineInTheSand
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They’re not liberal, they’re just faithful democrat voters. They’re faithful democrat voters because they want to vote for the anti-white party. Unless the dissident right pick up the cause of being anti-white they aren’t gaining Jewish votes.

It’s the same reason courting black voters with promises of economic prosperity continues to be a massive failure. Black voters aren’t looking for economic prosperity primarily, they’re looking to fight white people.

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Vizzini wrote:
“If they stopped all that crap, then maybe we could talk. Maybe. It’s hard to forget.”

Never forget.

NITZAKHON
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And some of (((us))) are doing are damned to call out our own. Granted that I’m a voice in the wilderness… but I’m doing what I can here.

https://redpilljew.blogspot.com/2018/05/g-d-damn-you-barbara-spectre.html

Exile@Pioneer19
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Exile@Pioneer19

NAJALT, but there is a large plurality of Jews, particularly in America (and particularly well-placed in The Cathedral) whose primary identity is anti-Christian. Read Michael Medved’s section of the Commentary forum from years back on why Jews vote Left. He caught Hell for that from fellow tribesmen. I know Jews who defy the stereotype, but they have little voice in their community. Unless and until they rip the megaphone away from guys like Shapiro, you can keep calling me “Nazi.”

Murray
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Murray

No one cares. I think there is a resurgence of anti-Semitism because at this point in time Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the centre of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that… Read more »

NITZAKHON
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G-d damn Barbara Spectre. And Soros. And HIAS. Etc.

https://redpilljew.blogspot.com/2018/05/g-d-damn-you-barbara-spectre.html

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Felix_Krull

That cathedral was the primal roar of a people celebrating their creator… Is. Is the primal roar. Not to downplay the incident, but Notre Dame is still standing. The cathedrals were built for eternity and the anonymous master masons who designed them, knew that buildings caught fire from time to time and built accordingly. The greatest loss was the artwork inside and the Rose Window. We Euros don’t like to talk about this, but the great cathedrals are patchworks of additions, rebuilds and restaurations, so when the tour guide points to some great, magnificent building and tells you it’s 12th… Read more »

Tykebomb
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Tykebomb

The Rose windows, all 3, survived!

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Felix_Krull

They did? Hallelujah, that’s a damned miracle, if you’ll excuse my French!

The Rose windows,

Yes, but only the North window contains original, medieval glasswork.

NITZAKHON
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Thank G-d for that. Amazing. Same for that cross, and the statue of Jesus with Mary.

Rod1963
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Rod1963

Shapiro is a Orthodox Jew and they hate Christianity with a passion, this is not a bug but a feature of being Orthodox.

And when he speaks of Judaeo-Christianity, there is no such thing. Christianity owes far more to Rome and Athens in terms of it’s intellectual and moral heritage. But we can’t say that

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Felix_Krull

The term “Judaeo-Christianity” is a secret virtue signal, indicating that the speaker is actually devoted to Israel, even if he pays lip service to Jesus.

Jake
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Jake

That is just not true. Quit spouting lies regarding Orthodox Jews.

Bob
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Bob

I can’t think of much the Jews have given us besides the Old Testament. And that was 2000 years ago.

DeBeers Diamonds
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DeBeers Diamonds

For some shock humor, take a look at this feed. Thousands of leftists complaining that Twitter isn’t banning enough people, and isn’t handing over moderator powers to the ADLbb.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/AskJackAtTed?src=hash

Triff
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Triff

Food for thought ..
What’s a guy dressed like an Imam doing walking
on the cathedral while it is burning ??

https://twitter.com/smoss319/status/1117963560636829696

pimpkin\'s nephew
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pimpkin\'s nephew

A couple of weeks ago I read Walter Kempowski’s 2006 novel called (in English) ‘All For Nothing.’ It’s about the last days of East Prussia, in January 1945. People – I mean normal people, went about their business, nervous – as we are – about some dark wind blowing toward them, some looming nightmare, but like us they lived in a fog as to the actual situation (their rulers like ours prohibited all negative talk and accurate information), and when the time came to flee, it was too late. Eight hundred years of German civilization was about to die –… Read more »

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Felix_Krull

Part of the problem was that they were so used to Goebbels lying to them, they didn’t believe the atrocity stories. They just wanted the war to be over, and hell, how bad could the Soviets be?

Bad, as it turned out.

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

This is a good analogy.

I keep asking myself “how can we organize any sort of resistance once enough of the population figures out what is going on?” I keep not having a good answer to that question.

I’m open to suggestions.

Dutch
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Dutch

It is not about people figuring it out. A lot of them sort of know, but they are comfortable under the blue pill, and will seize the plausible “safe” explanation (construction accident, in this case). The duskies have learned this, and go for anonymous sabotage rather than the big 9/11 style gestures.

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Binyamin Shoahpiro is a vile little shit.

Karl McHungus
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Karl McHungus

Ben Shapiro is Little Lord Cuckleroy

EvilDoer
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EvilDoer

Who can it be now???

Might be our friends from the Religion of Piece(s)…..

https://twitter.com/therealcornett/status/1117966167040249856

🤔

Locustpost
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Locustpost

Despite being a skeptic all the time, I’m still always amazed at how hopeful most people are so that they buy the lamest stories about events put out within minutes of whatever is unfolding because I assume they don’t want to stare at the hard truth. I own and restored three properties that are very old. Two of them are on the National Registry. The extreme care one goes through to avoid a restoration/construction fire is, well, extreme. And then I read that the cathedral had a spinkler system–for a building to burn with a sprinkler system–well it might be… Read more »

AC this is broken
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AC this is broken

Not relevant to this article, but you asked for this on Gab:

Quick and dirty shop, but hey . . .
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I don’t have a gab acct, so you’re getting it here.

Rogeru
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Rogeru

Fox News has hung up on the president of the Catholic league and a French mayor when they mentioned the recent antiChristian vandalism and their scepticism of the official rush to conclus… Uh, i mean investigation. Hung up on them live on air.

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Prediction: multicultural candlelight vigil

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Prediction for US: resistance to Globo will, once it heats up, be lead by the Special people just like conservative media is today. They will make sure no matter what happens they come out at the top.

TBoone
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TBoone

“Diversity is Our Strength!”
Sadly, Diversity isn’t as Strong as Competence.
That’s why we can’t have Nice Things……

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

The machine has to stop at some point right? Right?

Make
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Make

“Even if the cause was recklessness by some workers, that’s probably worse. Like America, this kind of work in Paris is done by foreigners now. The work crews are no doubt Algerians, Tunisians and maybe some Africans. The few French involved spend their time keeping these tribes from murdering one another.” Do you have any actual evidence to support this claim Z-man? If we accuse the main stream media of believing anything that happens to support their narrative (the Covington boys and Smollet cases and of course the whole Russia conspiracy nonsense being the most blatant examples of this in… Read more »

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Felix_Krull

Yes.

Also, the idea that Macron would have any influence on how to restore the church, is preposterous. He doesn’t advise the Louvre on how to restore the Mona Lisa either.

In this case, I put my trust entirely in the muscular French bureaucracy.

And thanks for the links – amazing building, notes of Gaudi.

LSWCHP
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LSWCHP

It’s official. I’m now more than a little annoyed.

NITZAKHON
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Writing as a Zionist Jew… BEN SHAPIRO IS A PUTZ FOR SAYING THAT. (For those non-Yiddish speakers, “putz” is not a compliment.)

Here’s my reaction:

http://redpilljew.blogspot.com/2019/04/notre-dame-some-thoughts.html

I know there are some people who dislike Jews on this site. OK, that’s your prerogative. I stand with America, with Western Civilization, and with whites to oppose the Great Replacement and the Islamization of the world. Don’t like my kippa? Let’s duke it out after we’ve handled bigger threats.

ONLY FOOLS FIGHT IN A BURNING HOUSE.

c matt
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c matt

Hey Bennie Shapiro, did you hear the one about the Temple ca. 70 AD?