Politics and Aesthetics

The Democrats are about to kick-off their fashion show for picking their next presidential candidate, so the experts are trying to set the tone for the season. The fashion show is a good analogy at this stage. Designers don’t always come up with new styles that work with the public, so they try different things, hoping for one or two that work. They hope to come up with something that catches the attention of a taste-maker, like a Hollywood starlet, then all of a sudden they have a hit with the public.

Steve Jobs figured this out the second time around with Apple. It was not about cutting edge technology or making a better product. That was a field with too many big money smart players. His game was going to be as trend setter and taste-maker. He tailored the company to be the symbol of the smart set, the people who fashion themselves a cut above the masses. These are the people who determine the latest styles. The lowly music player soon became a fashion and cultural statement.

Politics often works the same way. In 1992, Bill Clinton won the presidency largely on the cool factor. He was young, as far as Baby Boomers were concerned. He was also hip and cool. He played the sax on TV wearing sunglasses! Voting for Clinton became a fashion statement for the Left. Tony Blair played the same game in Britain with the “Cool Britannica” stuff. He was young and new and the future of Britain, despite being the man, who would usher in the end of Britain as an English country.

Politics and aesthetics are tightly wound together in any form of democracy, as selecting people for elected office is a popularity contest. The winner of the beauty pageant is not objectively better in some way than the others. She just has some way of appealing to the voters in the moment. The iPod was not some great innovation or invention. It just looked cool to the right people at the right time and became the standard for music players. Barak Obama was not a great statesman. He was just the right style at the time.

It’s not just left-wing politics in America that relies on an aesthetic to carry it forward with its supporters. In 1976 Ronald Reagan lost to the dour Gerald Ford in the Republican primary. The same Reagan won in 1980 and ushered in a great cultural revival called the Reagan Revolution. In 1976 men had sideburns and wore garish leisure suits. In 1986, men wore traditional men’s suits, bathed every day and kept themselves properly groomed. The political revolution had an aesthetic.

This has always been true in the era of liberal democracy. The two great movements of the early 20th century, fascism and Bolshevism, had distinct aesthetics. The quintessential communist a century ago was a shabby looking cosmopolitan, with round spectacles and a few too many phobias. In contrast, the quintessential fascist was the beer drinking bourgeoisie hooligan, who disdained books in favor of the Faustian existence. Both sides were fighting over an aesthetic, as much as for power.

This is an important thing to understand about politics in any age, but especially in this highly democratic age. It’s about flattery, as much as anything. The people flocking to your banner do so because it validates an opinion of themselves. This piece in the Atlantic, celebrating Elizabeth Warren and Pete Buttigieg is a good example. The intended audience for that article are the sort of people, who want to belief their politics are controlled by facts and reason, rather than superstition and emotion.

The fact that both Warren and Buttigieg are pseudo-intellectual posers is not only not a liability, but it is an asset. The people they seek to attract are themselves supercilious dilettantes and poseurs. They get their opinions from the MSNBC and NPR, while claiming to be avid readers of the New York Times. These are the people who decorate their apartments with books they never read. Around a real intellectual, they are made to feel inferior, but around Warren or Buttigieg they are validated.

The argument that the democrats are heavily reliant on the super educated is what’s called flattering the reader. Democrats rely on blacks, foreigners and white people too dumb to realize they are being destroyed. That is the base of the party now. Warren and Buttigieg know they have no shot at those voters, so they hope to win the beautiful people in the party. They may not connect with the rank and file, but they can appeal to the trend setters, who have the tools to convert that into popular appeal.

Another way to see the entanglement of politics and aesthetics is look at the street battles between the alt-right and Antifa. One side kitted themselves out as preppy suburban fascists. The other side was a comical mélange of Italian Black Shirts and skateboard park anarchists. Neither side had a coherent, positive identity, so they cherry-picked styles and symbols from past movements. They could just as easily have faced off with one side in leisure suits and the other side wearing spats.

In fact, what characterizes this period is the lack of a political aesthetic that is authentic and original. This is an interregnum, where the old order is slowly giving way, but a new order has yet to form. More precisely, the battles lines between the contestants for a new order have yet to form. Instead, it is one side protecting the status quo and one side dissatisfied with it. The former has no reason to defend the old order, other than habit, while the latter has no conception of what should come next.

If there is to be a coherent political and social movement rise out of the dissident right, it will have to be more than narrow political arguments and meta-political commentary on social media. It will need a look that signals to the curious that it is a movement with a future for itself and its adherents. Just as men in traditional suits signaled a break from the 1970’s and the radical chic of the New Left, the new aesthetic will have to signal a break from the old political paradigm and the old Progressive morality.

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TomA
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I don’t know if this qualifies as an archetypal aesthetic, but the “faceless man” motif would be useful in the event that the Democrats elect the next closet Stalin and he/she proceeds to pick up where Obama left off. The next gen freedom fighter is more likely to be a Walter Mitty that no one sees coming rather than a Rambo.

Nori
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Nori

None of the dems driving that clown car seem “closeted” about anything,Tom. Whatever masks were worn in previous elections have been tossed,and their ugly,insane visage is nakedly revealed.
This is a very good thing.
There is no old order to go back to on either side. That’s another very good thing. It’s one hell of an opportunity and we better not blow it.

TomA
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TomA

Agreed. Most of them are openly Socialist, if not outright Communist. The closeted part is where they proactively aim to reconstitute the Gulag for us naysayers.

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Thus far the dissident right aesthetic is a negative one: Not bluehaired freaks and not black-clad antifa goons. Attempts to project an aesthetic have failed, with the media excoriating dissident rightists who make the effort to dress decently and attend to personal hygiene. And that is part of the problem, a particular dissident right aesthetic makes one a target for media ridicule and antifa violence. As for a positive aesthetic, I think the dissident right needs to first know its customers: white people. What sort of aesthetics makes white people happy and positive and aspirational beyond current circumstances? What aesthetic… Read more »

Al from da Nort
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Al from da Nort

Roo;
Well there’s the DJ Trump look. Blue suit, white shirt, contrasting tie. Substitute a red tie and you’d have the uniform for doing business in Asia in the late ’80s & early-mid ’90s.

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Ostei Kozelskii

Not bad, although a tad constraining in a street-fight…

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Felix_Krull

DJT, god bless him, has all the style of a pimp.

The secret of style is that there’s no recipe. Following a recipe provides you with a uniform, not with style. As TLS says below, the important bit is your bearing and your grooming.

I’m not sure it’s even a good idea to promote a fash style, but if I were to suggest a signal item, it would be a tie. Commies hate ties.

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Ostei Kozelskii

They’re very fond of Stolypin neckties, however.

PawPaw
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PawPaw

How about a cravat or an ascot? Some of our favorite Dane’s look quite dashing wearing one.

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Felix_Krull

Hate to take your illusions away, but the dapper gentleman in the profile photo (who doesn’t look like a pimp or a homo in the slightest) is a German actor, the guy who played Felix Krull. The good thing about using the tie, is that we might see Leftie (with perhaps a little help from our friends at 4chan) declare it a hate symbol. Getting cravats labelled hateful, doesn’t do us much good if we’re the only ones wearing them. Also, many Mohammadans abhor ties as well. They think it looks like a crucifix, which is why Iranian leaders never… Read more »

Boo
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Boo

muslims, too

Chet Rollins
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Chet Rollins

Honestly, something as simple as nice khakis and a polo shirt would be effective. It looks put together without trying too hard.

jrod
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jrod

Yep, and us dissident boomers already are well stocked with that uniform.

Ivan
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Ivan

You guys are missing the obvious, hats.

Also functional because we need shade more than the sun people.

The Last Stand
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The Last Stand

As of now, running around with an overt aesthetic whether that is sunwheels or Fred Perry polo shirts or whatever makes it really easy to label us “Nahtzees”. Implicit signals are better. Keep your personal appearance neat and clean. Train your muscles and study some empty hand fighting. (It has a significant effect on your bearing) I personally always wear a belt, pants, and working or hiking boots (unless exercising or at a formal occasion). As for haircuts, fades seem to be in style and are reminiscent of a military “high and tight”. The overall idea is to look neat… Read more »

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Ostei Kozelskii

They would label us Nahtzees even if we all dressed up as Teletubbies.

My own personal preference is for a look harking back to the period from the late-40s to the early-60s: flattop haircut, a fedora or a Panama–never worn with a tee-shirt, alas–Hawaiian shirts, and when dressing up, always a white dress shirt. Clean-shaven face, or a day’s growth at most. Needless to say, no tatts and/or piercings.

Hoyos
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Hoyos

The James Ellroy look?

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Ostei Kozelskii

Is that the look of most of the characters in his novels?

Hoagie
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Hoagie

That’s the Hoagie look!

Exile
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Exile

Natural but not hippy slovenly, agree. Back to basics for now until we develop a healthy supporting culture where taste can thrive again.

Blowtorch everything deriving from hip-hop/rap degenerates.

Boo
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Boo

Definitely that last.

Since you mentioned hippies…have we thought about the fact that the two most radical leftist times (change, change, change…faster, faster, faster) in (some of our) lifetimes each began just after the two greatest national tragedies — JFK assassination and 9-11? Never let a tragedy go to waste indeed.

Penitent Man
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Why fuss overly about dress? At present, they are trying to sort out which are the bad-think white men. At the current trajectory it’ll morph into just white man bad. You’ll be wearing your uniform out of the shower.

White women will be a bit easier to sort. The ones giving you the hairy eyeball or flecking you with spital as they rant will be the “unfriendlies.”

See how easy that is?

The Last Stand
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The Last Stand

Fair enough, but we still need a way to differentiate between white cucks and our people.

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Just flash the OK sign. 🙂

Penitent Man
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Last,

Touche. For some whites there is no awakening point. Its unfathomable. The guy who prostrated himself in a yoke and chains with a sign expressing his apologies for slavery… probably isnt going to be red-pilled.

But maybe we’ll eventually have the numbers where they become the odd ducks and well be sussing them from the wheat instead of the other way around.

MBlanc46
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You might start with LL Bean.

3g4me
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3g4me

MBlanc46, hadn’t you heard? LL Bean has gotten woke. I seem to recall reading they had begun using blacks in their catalogues. Whenever I visited the store the summer of ’79 when I lived up in Maine, there were no visible non-Whites anywhere in the state that I could see. A friend took me to Lewiston for the working-class White beach experience; now it’s second only to Minneapolis as Somalia (and Congo) central. Beautiful state with what used to be down to earth Whites, lots of hunters and fishermen. I’d happily abandon the rest of the east coast, but Maine… Read more »

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How to win friends and influence people. I’m not a doctor but I play one on TV. Heroes schmeroes. Leaders, we don’t have to show you no stinking leaders. You see him here. You see him there. A dedicated follower of fashion. Dilettantes and poseurs are people who are incapable of getting anything of real import done. We are drowning in a sea of idiots.

Glenfilthie
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Glenfilthie

Hmmmmm.

Well done Z. I wonder about your assertion that the name of the game is about appealing to the beautiful cloud people and trend setters though. Just like sideburns and spats – those old players are on the way out.

I think we have new trend setters… but I’ll be damned if I can identify them. I don’t think they will be all that impressed with this year’s crop of designers and fashionistas in the democrat party at all.

But whadda I know.

Tacitus
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To quote Ptolemy of Alexandria: “The stars impel but do not compel”. The spirit of the times is a force that affects everyone individually as a function of their life’s experience, but it does not act deterministically: we retain our ability to choose whether or not to participate. That our society is becoming increasingly bifurcated on racial lines (white liberals will be extinct, God willing, when you look at their birth rates) tells me new “fashion trends” will be even more race specific then they already are. There is also the high possibility of some epochal event that will define… Read more »

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Ostei Kozelskii

Excellent post. I love that Ptolemy quote. Succinct and true.

A simple man
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A simple man

The aesthetic that’s needed is beauty instead of preciousness, truth instead of slogans, long term instead of short term, dignity instead of comfort, organic instead of engineered, and real instead of fake.

Fwiw, I’m a sixty year-old who took too damn long to appreciate my heritage. Thanks, Z-Man.

Lineman
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Lineman

Well said Brother I agree…

travis hughes
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I guess cause for some hope is that I am also a 60 year old man who was referred to this site by my 36 year old son. Maybe most of us Boomers have screwed the pooch, but perhaps our offspring will prove up to the task of saving our civilization.

Penitent Man
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Simple Man and Mr. Hughes Don’t be put off by some of the anti-boomer haranguing on this and other sites (I’m saying this as a mid X-gen, whatever the heck that is exactly). While it is useful to recognize general patterns and groupings, some take the ridiculous tack of blaming boomers en masse… as if being a micro-cog in a time of social decay carries blame; when most likely you were just trying to put food on the table, find love, raise kids, etc. If we want to go down that road, I’ll go ahead and lay infinite scorn on… Read more »

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

I don”t blame the people, I blame the liars.

Boo
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Boo

Appreciated.

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Beauty can save us, if we will just believe it. The left hates that.

MBlanc46
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This is a universal phenomenon according to traditional Western philosophy, in which the True and the Good are subsumed in the Beautiful.

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Ostei Kozelskii

Which explains why America nowadays is so gawdafully coarse and ugly.

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Speaking of aesthetics, you must read this, friends…

https://tinyurl.com/y2sfs3uv

Ha ha
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Ha ha
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A British newspaper poking fun at Adolf Hitler! What will they come up with next?

Ha ha
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Ha ha

You’ve got to admit that the Nazi aesthetic was pretty horrible. I mean, just look at their rallies. Tacky! No gritty authenticity anywhere, very anal retentive looking and not in a good, smart, wholesome military way, either, just too, too over the top.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Majid Majid as a fashion item.

Penitent Man
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Had to look Majid Majid up. Thanks for that image. Jesu wept.

Bob Lee
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Bob Lee

Reminds me of Obama’s Denver speech, giant pillars, lights, pomp, and etc. https://lasvegassun.com/news/2008/sep/03/all-theatrics-and-killer-speech-too/

Boo
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Boo

“killer speech”? Ah, the devotion of the media…

Ha ha
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Ha ha

Well, looking at your National Conservatism cutting edge aesthetic, I go with:
Claire Lehmann for females-ethereal Botticelli beauty, intelligent
Michael Anton for males-dyspectic, old style GQ, bespectacled, intelligent
Too cool for school!
Better than problem glasses and cocktail dresses for women and polo shirts and Dockers for men.
You can look smart and classy, too!
Or maybe just dad-looking older white males, like Michael Doran only slobbier. That might be reassuring to voters who feel discombobulated.

Ha ha
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Ha ha

A downvote? It’s okay to be a white dad!

Yves Vannes
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Maybe the aesthetics are faux because the politics are faux.

The progressives no longer believe in their utopia. Western Civ can’t be reformed into what they want so it needs to be obliterated.

The dissident movement occupies a spectrum that runs from homesteaders worshipping Wotan in a forested grove to building colonies on Mars. The only thing unifying them is their desire to obliterate the progressives.

The ‘other means’ isn’t working out. At some conceptual level, both sides understand what’s coming.

BadThinker
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BadThinker

What about those that want to worship Wotan on Mars?

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Or worshipping Mars on Mars!

Yves Vannes
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Any mendicant order is welcomed as long as they can till the soil and raise the roofbeams.

JR Wirth
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Great one. I take one issue. “The former has no reason to defend the old order, other than habit, while the latter has no conception of what should come next.” – There are many, many people who have more reasons than habit to support the old order, and nearly all of them have to do with making a living. Look at the useless, grifting consultant class that occupies the counties surrounding D.C.. They make a living interpreting, at hundreds an hour, obscure interpretations of regulations. The tour guides of the old labyrinth have a lot to lose in epochal changes.… Read more »

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Ostei Kozelskii

I’m a bit confused. On the one hand I’ve heard that we should be an amorphous, unidentifiable cloud of vapor seeping in and out of political interstices so as to avoid detection by the Spiteful Mutants on the Left. Now I understand that we are to create our own signaling aesthetic, perhaps putting ourselves squarely in the gun sights. Dear, oh dear, oh dear…

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Get yourself a riding crop along with a pair of riding boots and just blend in.

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But where to park the horse.

The Last Stand
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The Last Stand

I should have clarified. Avoiding overt symbols while creating a contrast to the Leftist style is intended to weaponize the white liberal mindset against itself. Whites, both liberal and conservative are the only demographic that really subscribe to the crap about not judging a book by the cover. So do not give them anything that overtly screams “white supremacist” and you have some breathing room. At the same time, spread disinformation about what the latest sign of white supremacy is. We have seen liberals panicking over the okay sign, milk, cartoon frogs, and red hats. Feed their paranoia so that… Read more »

Penitent Man
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A mishmash 80s of skinhead doc Martin’s and wife-beater (A frame tshirt for you septagenarians) but with the rainbow suspenders of Mork from Ork?

Mind blown.

ChrisZ
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ChrisZ

TLS: I like the spirit of your last sentence here. The rainbow itself is an awesome spectacle, whose very existence depends not only in the natural properties of refracted light, but on the power of visual perception and the human imagination. It strikes all kinds of mystic chords, from God’s promise to Noah to the bridge to Valhalla. Yet everywhere I look this month, it’s exclusively associated with sodomy and the deadly sin of “pride.” That’s a scandal for our culture; but more, it’s an embarrassment to all of us who let it happen, and who tolerate its continued use… Read more »

The Last Stand
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The Last Stand

Stealing the rainbow flag is simple. Just spread the word that white separatists are using it because the colors are beautiful when separate but mix together into an ugly brown.

Get some overt Nazis to fly it, and some standard MAGA types as well cuz as we all know, Trump is a covert white supremacist. Pretty soon, an obnoxious symbol of sexual perversion no longer creates the sense of belonging, certainty, and self-righteousness. Instead Lefty has to wonder and worry just what is meant by that flag.

ChrisZ
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ChrisZ

Love it. Brilliant take on the colors, too.

Wolf Barney
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Wolf Barney

I would’ve doubted you about stealing the rainbow flag until I saw the Chicago Cubs ownership banning a fan for life for making the Okay sign with his fingers on camera, calling it a sign of white supremacy.

Damian
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Damian

And have the first letters of each colour mean something: Erm, to the ‘Right Of Your Government, Business, Intellectuals and Visionaries’ or something like that. I’m sure a chan can come up with something better though.

Boo
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Boo

That was posted 6 days ago. Someone needs to give the channers a nudge. Let’s go.

Boo
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Boo

They also stole the word “pride.”

“The world is rapidly being divided into two camps, the comradeship of anti-Christ and the brotherhood of Christ. The lines between these two are being drawn. How long the battle will be we know not, whether swords will have too be unsheathed we know not, whether blood will have to be shed we know not, whether it will be an armed conflict we know not. But in a conflict between truth and darkness, truth cannot lose.” – Fulton Sheen

Rod1963
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This is a very confusing post by Z, it’s pretty much above my pay grade. If you like Veblen you might get something out of it.

That said I can understand why you are confused/ At first Z tells us to be the Grey Man and blend and cease to resist the Left in any way. IOW no more Honkler, putting up posters such as “it’s okay to be white”, etc. Just blend in and do nothing.

Now he wants us to wear what amounts to a uniform so we can be potted like so many quail.

Damian
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Damian

I was thinking something similar. I’d say the ‘uniform’ should simply reflect competence which is what is lacking in politics at the moment. So that could be well groomed, physically fit, and dressing ‘consciously’. So rather than having a style, maybe we just look different but all well dressed, stylish and that we take ourselves seriously.

boo
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boo

Women already do. That’s why it’s so easy to tell leftists from traditionalists.

Wanda Sherratt
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Wanda Sherratt

Maybe the copycat aesthetics follows the formlessness of current political thinking. I’ve noticed for some time that everyone seems to be trying to repurpose the 1930s to our present era. The Left is happy to coat its enemies with a sloppily-applied layer of “Nazi” paint, but the Right won’t stop rummaging around in that empty trunk, either. I don’t know how many times I’ve read about this or that incident being styled as a “Reichstag fire” or “Kristallnacht” or “Night of the Long Knives”, as if there’s a set formula for history that will inevitably reproduce itself. I always wonder… Read more »

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“…something unforeseen and unplanned-for.”

Doubtless something to do with The Great Replacement.

Apex Predator
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Apex Predator

Hmm… Not melting like a snowflake over it, but am in agreement that ______ this type of break line or something similar would be useful. It needs a clear delineation, but something simple and clean.

Apex Predator
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Apex Predator

Grr, wrong topic this was regarding the offset of final paragraph. Where did all these “Wandas” suddenly appear from? That is what threw me off too many Wanda clones, can one of you become Shirley or Marlene or… Steve? 😉

Tykebomb
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Tykebomb

We are entering a new era of mass migration. The Sea Peoples, the Bantu expansions, the Germans invading Rome, the rise of Islam and the Arabs, the Mongols and Magyars, the colonization of the Americas and Oceania. There is plenty of history to draw on. None of it ends well for the stationary and thus passive civilizations.

Personally, I lean towards an ersatz St Augustine’s City of God approach. Let America the country burn, so long as my nation ideologically awakens and manages to survive.

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Ostei Kozelskii

What, I wonder, would a Diss-Con flag or banner look like? Colors? Shapes? Symbols? Stars? Stripes? Archaizing or futuristic?

I haven’t really thought about it until this moment. The only thing I can say for sure is that it would have to be redolent of the West in some meaningful and fairly clear way.

BadThinker
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BadThinker

Kekistan is too retro?
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The Last Stand
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The Last Stand

When we have a land of our own, then on that holy ground. We’ll plant a flag of Kekistani green, upon a sacred mound.

Wanda Metrapolitano
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Wanda Metrapolitano

Slightly off topic, but it is about style: I’m begging you to visually set off your begging-for-money paragraph. Otherwise people will start reading it thinking it’s part of the main content. Put it in italics, or set if off with three asterisks–something. I work in publishing deep inside enemy territory, and your blog is my “forbidden fruit”–but this is triggering me so hard.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Some asterisks, to keep the page and page maintenance simple and clean.

Dutch
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Dutch

Dickies, grey t-shirt, big hat pulled low over my eyes, hiking boots, sunglasses, an older white full size pickup truck, no stickers or logos of any sort on anything. No tats, no piercings. You do the talking, and I’ll listen, for a little while. Is there something needs doing? I’ll pitch in. I’m an NPC.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

With that haircut, Spencer should have worn a giant target on his shirt as well.

Fit and clean.
Buck Owens: “Show up on time, in clean clothes, ready to work.”

ChrisZ
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ChrisZ

Aesthetics are not just what you wear. Lately when I drive around my liberal town, I open the windows and blast Wagner over the sound system. It’s a little retaliation against all the monkey music I’ve been subjected to over the years. But more importantly, it just feels epic to me. I’m aware of being immersed in the pinnacle of beauty, while simultaneously shouting a hearty F.U. at all the ugliness of our present culture.

Penitent Man
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Bravissimo.

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Ostei Kozelskii

Classical music is the ultimate Vibrant-repellent. Wagner works great, I’m sure, but any classical genius will do the trick. I’m parshul to Bruckner, Prokofiev and Berlioz, among others. In due course, however, playing classical music in public will be classed a so-called “hate” crime. And I mean that.

ChrisZ
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ChrisZ

I get what you’re saying, Ostei. At the same time, my local classical radio station is four-square on the “pride” agenda this month, and unquestionably the same could be said for many figures in today’s classical music scene. So if I could improve on your prediction: Classical music will EITHER become another stronghold of the perverse, OR it will become a “hate crime” because our side refused to relinquish it, and we willfully chose to identify with it. I feel the latter is its—and our—best destiny. But the former will happen if we let it, and the artistry of some… Read more »

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Ostei Kozelskii

True. How ironic that some of the people working to destroy the civilization that gave us Beethoven, Mozart, Bach and the rest, are working to annihilate that very civilization. Do they know not what they do? Can they not understand that submerging white civilization in black sea will mean the end of the music–among other cultural forms–they apparently love?

Gravity Denier
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Gravity Denier

Good God! What is your station doing? Featuring the music of Schubert, Tchaikovsky, Britten, Barber (gay) in heavy rotation? Banning Verdi and Puccini for operas about hetero love?

We are truly in the realm of madness when even our musical heritage must be sliced and diced according to sexual politics. The end is near. Or the new beginning.

Stuck
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Stuck

The irony being that most classical music today on radio is via the local NPR affiliate

Ralph
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Ralph

An alternative to classical music that has the same effect might be contemporary Christian music. That’s even more subversive.

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Ostei Kozelskii

Probably quite subversive, but from what I’ve heard of it, also borderline unlistenable. You mileage may vary, of course…

Ralph
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Ralph

Catchy tunes. Sing along loudly to be really subversive and annoying, but not very Christian.

Badthinker
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Badthinker

And really heretical. Designed for women to touch their feels in just the right places.

3g4me
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3g4me

Ralph – most “contemporary Christian music” is either 7/11 or Jesus is my boyfriend crap. All about the feels. I’ll stick with Sabaton, thank you.

Boo
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Boo

“Sometimes all you can do is play some country gospel.” Gram Parsons

(Bluegrass, too. Told the inner city kids they were bein’ racist when they denigrated the bluegrass we had on.)

Nori
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Nori

Interesting point,Ostei. Over the past 20 yrs,my favorite firearms store has gone from piping in rock,to country,and now classical. It’s definitely a change for the better;inobtrusive and quite pleasant. Bonus points for getting to play “guess the composer”.
And yes,it will be classed a”hate” crime. Can’t have amazing music composed by old white dudes in the marketplace.

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Ostei Kozelskii

Classical music in a gun store–signs and wonders. Do you know the owners’ motive for switching to classical? Could be, of course, that they simply developed a taste for the stuff, but it could be something else altogether. Hence, it is possible that classical music is becoming an emblem of white identitarianism, and much more powerfully so than C&W, which, pace Garth Brooks, is increasingly compromised by AWR. Your gun store owners could be posting here at Zman! (-:

Nori
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Nori

@Ostei:yes,he said he was tired of the cacophony the other genres brought to the store. Some customers hated the rock,some the country. Now it’s just a quietly pleasant background.
Thinking I should call the station he tunes into and request Tchaikovsky’s 1812 Overture. Those cannons seem appropriate for a gun store,don’t you think??
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Ostei Kozelskii

Yep. And Handel’s Music for the Royal Fireworks wouldn’t be entirely out of place, either.

Boo
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Boo

Definitely classical. But if you’re going country, it has to be classic. Remember Hillary’s freak-out about “Stand By Your Man”? (The Lyle Lovett version is pure.)

A.B Prosper
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A.B Prosper

I noticed my local Hobby Lobby was playing classical today, probably to decrease thefts from the local dopers and vibrants . That said we will need to be willing to go to arms long before anyone tries to make playing classical music a hate crime. Right now the establishment is destroying itself and allowing us a last ditch effort to avoid “war to the knife, knife to the hilt.” and to get ready for said fight. If we harden our minds and get skilled enough to do this and it never happens, we still win. A more Sparta like America… Read more »

Lady Dandy Doodle
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Lady Dandy Doodle

I read somewhere awhile back in normie news that store owners strategically play classical music to keep blacks away. The article said blacks have a negative visceral reaction to classical music and will not shop at stores that play it. Symphony Hall on Sirius XM is commercial-free and not pozzed. Same with the Met Opera channel one station over. Whenever I am at a stoplight and hear the African tribal music or that Mexica stuff the Mestizos are always listening to, I blast my Verdi or Mozart and give ’em a wink and a smile.

Boo
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Boo

While teaching, was in a school where the ‘hood would hang out at the foot of the stairs right by my class for an hour after school let out. For awhile, successfully used blasting classical to chase them out. Then I found out Hank Williams worked even better.

Carl B.
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Carl B.

It’s simple. Speak, dress, and act like a man.

The Babe
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The Babe

Pfft, the right already has a style: women in American-flag bikinis holding gigantic guns.

The Last Stand
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The Last Stand

The chick in a tight skimpy outfight with a gun is just the mainstream right being 30 years behind feminists.

I much prefer a lady wearing a dirndl or anything traditionally European. Leaves more to the imagination while still looking feminine and classy.

Ha ha
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Ha ha

In a dirndl IN A WHEAT FIELD making a sammich and ironing!

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Felix_Krull

The dirndl is rather too slutty for my liking. You can’t have your wife wear one outside the bedroom, not unless you’re actually at the Oktoberfest in Münich. I envy cultures who’ve kept their folk costumes alive, because you can’t revive them without it being phony. The Norwegians go full archaeo-con on their Independence Day. A dress like that, with all the bells and whistles, easily sets you back $5-10,000, depending on quality and the amount of embroidery and silverware. Each district has its own particular pattern. On the Faroe Islands, they dress up at weddings, at king Olav’s birthday… Read more »

The Last Stand
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The Last Stand

Some dirndls certainly have way too little fabric on the top and the bottom. I have seen a few though that did not have that shortcoming (heh). At the risk of sounding like the nationalist counterpart of those liberal sycophants 20-15 years ago who admired Europeans for their attitudes on gays and government welfare, seeing those national dresses makes me a little sad that the closest thing America has is lingerie with a flag pattern on it. We need time and space to let our own cultural dress develop naturally. As of now, I guess a good starting point would… Read more »

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Felix_Krull

the closest thing America has is lingerie with a flag pattern on it. That’s not true at all. There are many traditional styles of dress in America in actual use, although more subtly expressed. Next time I go to America, I’ll visit New Mexico, just so I can legitimately wear rattlesnake boots, a Stetson and a turquoise bolo tie. The dresses in the photos above, are only used on special occasions. And you might not see it since half the world dress like Americans, but the humble baseball cap is authentic American folkwear, not to mention the blue jeans. I… Read more »

Derp
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Derp

Been done by the Tea Party, ridiculed all around, too Boomer round here. Coonskin caps might be an option, though.

Todd
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Todd

Modern “traditional” style? The quintessential WASP-y designer is Ralph Lifshitz.

Dutch
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Dutch

If she is dressing up and primping up a bit, and it’s for me, that’s as good as it gets. I will do the same for her. The rest of it follows from there.

Boo
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Boo

Bless you.

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Ostei Kozelskii

…and straddling a Harley.

Sean Detente
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Skid marks on he bikini bottom. Yeeaaaaah boooooiiiii

Wolf Barney
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Wolf Barney

It’ll be interesting to see if any of the Dem female candidates go with Hillary’s pantsuit look. I would advise a more feminine look, but it’s the Dems, so who knows?

Penitent Man
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Dont think they can at this point. Unless they go with the trampy hooker boots like that bisexual Arizona congresswoman.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

And those hatchet haircuts!
It’s Sapphic women, all the way down.

That’s why they hate Tulsi.
She has great hair.

Matrix
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Give me the Linda Sarsour look, now that’s perfection!

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Swords as a fashion statement.
And beautiful pistols.

A.B Prosper
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A.B Prosper

That is a long long way off. Its vaguely plausible as carrying weapons is fine in many places but public display of weapons is frowned on as the US isn’t a frontier anymore, its fully developed. A society made by literal cop killers, traitors and tax cheats than populated with descendants refuse of Europe than of humanity all here to practice religions they weren’t at home (aka be cranks) and because they couldn’t make it at home is going to have a hard time living in a fully developed nation . Too many nutters and grifters This inability to adapt… Read more »

Exile
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Exile

Did the New Con conference provide any future aesthetic hope? /rhetorical… A movement with genuine, positive race/kin/collective based values that can draw from the pre-Enlightenment heritage of the West has boundless aesthetic & cultural potential. Given that our only IQ/heritage competition comes from uber-bourgeois Han & Hebrews, the net advantages are even greater (sorry, Latinos, you still count as aesthetic Spaniards, though that’s a good tradition to inherit). That said, we’re hopelessly mired aesthetically at this point, romanticized medievalism or fascism on the Right, soulless futurism or abstraction on the Left. Who are the artists & musicians I’m overlooking in… Read more »

A simple man
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A simple man

As far as clothes go, I prefer Carhart, Dickies, Levi’s, and Roundhouse. FoxRiver socks and RedWing boots. Almost all made by our countrymen and worn by real workers; Of course, that is not the whole of the target population. Brooks Brothers when I need to wear a suit. When I lived another life, my Almy’s and Whipple’a were all black or Charcoal gray. I’ve never been a bumper sticker type, but maybe I’ll put a St. George’s Cross or a Bonnie Blue decal on the back of the truck or car. The Bonnie Blue is to me a sure signal… Read more »

CZ master race
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CZ master race

You might want to read up on Levi’s…full on SJW nonsense.

A simple man
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A simple man

True that. Still, the old styles are very functional. Okay, I’ll ownup to buying Levi’s at Goodwill. The rest I get at the workboot store or the farm supply. As for “our” music . . . others mentioned Classical and even the NPR connection– I still chuckle a bit that I still listen to the same station as 35 years ago, but now can’t stand ME and ATC. I think that Country, Americana, Roots and even Sinatra, Como et al. are “ours” too. The Church’s music is ours, but God forbid we use it as a prop

Boo
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Boo

Americana and roots exactly what I mean when saying “classic country.” Schools too often teach that our musical traditions come from black roots, completely ignoring folkish ballads, highland tunes, the mandolin from Italy and fiddle from Ireland.

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Ostei Kozelskii

At this point, are there any corporations that aren’t? Chick-fil-A, I suppose. They’ll go the way of the Boy Scouts eventually, I’m sure. And the Washington Redskins, if they could count as a corporation.

Lineman
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Lineman

Skip the Levi’s they are a Commie Company…

Exurban
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Exurban

I’m pretty sure Red Wing shoes are made in China now. That was the situation last time I had to buy some safety shoes … maybe four years ago.

a simple man
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a simple man

The steel toe hiking boots, about $160 the pair, are made in the USA. I’m pretty sure Carolina makes some here, too. You pay a premium

Whiskey
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Whiskey

I think the style has already arrived. Younger man: Jim Cavaziel in Person of Interest or Ryan Gosling or Keanu Reeves. Suit no tie.

Older man Jeremy Clarkson in Top Gear or Grand Tour jeans, dress shirt sport coat.

Official Bologna Tester
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Official Bologna Tester

Maybe it’s just better to stay with the classics. https://www.pinterest.com/feldgendarm/ancient-warriors/

boo
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boo

Please…ties. That open-collar shirt with the jacket thrown over it that O helped popularize looks nowhere close to the suit and tie like PDT and Abe from Japan, who always look like they mean business.

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Karl Horst (Germany)
Nori
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Nori

@Karl:love how she’s suing not only Halper,but WSJ,NYT,WaPo,& NBCUniversal.
The discovery phase should be most interesting.
Been following her story since she came forward,and she has more credibility than the lump sum of defendants.

Lance_E
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I’ve been seeing a lot more guys in the gym than usual lately, and it’s not the first week of January. Maybe it’s a sign of a masculine aesthetic forming – perhaps in response to the overt, overbearing feminization.

Earl
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Earl

Swimsuit season/summer shorts. That is the feminine aesthetic. Now the poor dudes have to work on their figures just like the wahmans. It’s okay to have dadbod.

Gravity Denier
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Gravity Denier

Yesterday I happened to watch some newsreels on YouTube showing Germany before and during WWII. While I don’t buy into the propaganda that sees the Nazi regime as uniquely, absolutely evil, it included plenty that was objectionable. Yet it’s hard to avoid a pained admiration for the way the Nazis used aesthetics to give their movement a visual signature. (Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmBZGT32moo) As everyone knows, Hitler painted watercolors in his youth. From what I’ve seen of them, they showed some talent — they were no better but no worse than those displayed by the hundreds in tourist-town art galleries. It seems… Read more »

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Ostei Kozelskii

It would be a fascinating project to comb back through history, beginning in Sumeria mayhap, in search of symbols and emblems that would suit our purposes. I would think there must be a published encyclopedia containing such materials.

Penitent Man
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As an ascetic: Perhaps a re-revival of the romantics and the classicists of the late 19th Century? It’s a celebration of the Greco Roman, the medieval, nature, Christianity, pagan romanticism, chivalry, empire, myth, etc… pretty much the story of our people made fashionable again in mid to late 1800s.

Gravity Denier
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Gravity Denier

I vote for 1785-1815 neoclassical style for women: not only a “statement,” but attractive in itself:

https://www.wikiart.org/en/louise-elisabeth-vigee-le-brun/portrait-of-anna-pitt-as-hebe-1792

Brian
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Brian

I enjoy your blog but what’s up with the shaming guilt tripping your readers maybe trolling not sure into sending you $$$. You never used to do that? People living off other people sweat lmao I’m an electrician that’s life bro. You’re asking for $$ for your own opinion. You take care.

Brian
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Brian

Send me a maple for my opinion lol

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Paypal made it easier to donate. Signed up.

Redbeard
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Redbeard

I have heard before it suggested that women of the right should be encouraged to have long braided hair as a sort of banner of belonging. Men, likewise could go with “regulation” cuts perhaps, and both otherwise dress modestly. Time and agin while Im out in the public I find I’ll take note of a fellow or a couple whom I perceive to be like-minded and wish we had more of a tribal like identity.

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The left is evil. That is where you start. Forget this reasoning about fashion etc. If you are a democrat, if you are a commie, you are evil. And you are disgusting. And most people hate you and laugh at you, because you are evil. Inflame their amygdala. Bring the pain.

Boo
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Boo

Trump and Biden don’t appeal to the same people at all. JB can call himself whatever he wants, but people know he’s a rich guy who got rich off being in government and is now doing the same thing for his kids. They know he’s a go-along-to-get-along guy rather than an original thinker and that he will bow down to whatever the prevailing wisdom of the day is, rather than fighting it. We’d never see a movement drawing from dissatisfied customers in both parties with rock-sta-type rallies for Joe Biden, nor would we see the kind of Beatlemania-height excitement that… Read more »