A Pause On The River

When you are hurtling down a fast-moving river in a kayak, the one thing you don’t do is take in the scenery or contemplate the changing nature of the river. Your focus is on navigating the river, in order to avoid getting splattered on a rock. Something similar happens to people in rapidly changing times. Current events are that fast-moving river, while politics are the rucks creating the rapids. Those engaged in it are living in the never ending present, taking on each obstacle as they come.

Unlike the kayaker, people in the fast-moving currents of a rapidly changing society can stop and think about just how far down the river they have traveled. In fact, it is probably the only way to keep your head above water. It’s also useful in preparing for what is coming, as in the moment, just like the kayaker flying through the rapids, it is hard to understand what is driving events. The reason things today are as they are is people made specific decisions in the past that led to this point.

One of those things that is very different now, compared to further back in the journey, is how the Right thinks about the media. In this discussion, the Right are dissidents, not the flaks and hustlers hired by corporate interests. Not so long, the Left saw the media as mostly fair, while conservatives saw the media as biased. The complaint was the typical media person was honest, but on the Left. Today, dissidents see the media as wholly corrupt, even what passes for right-wing media.

Added to that is if you go back far enough, say the 1980’s, the Left used to complain about corporate media. The Michael Moore types would warn that corporations gobbling up local newspapers and radio stations would destroy the media. The Right mostly dismissed these concerns. After all, capitalism is always good. It turns out that those left-wing cranks were right. Astoundingly, to those of a certain age, modern dissidents sound a lot like those left-wing cranks from back then.

In the 1980’s and into the 1990’s, to be on the Left meant opposing the corporatization of America. This was mostly a carryover from the economic radicals of the prior generation, but honest liberals worried about the power of global capital. They argued against liberalization of banking and the creation of massive financial institutions that were impossible to regulate. To be on the Right back then was to dismiss these concerns as vestiges of a bygone era.

Today, dissidents are the harshest critics of corporate capital and globalization, often sounding more like Bolsheviks than right-wingers. It’s why older dissidents, like Jared Taylor, are a bit alarmed by what they hear from the younger generation of dissidents regarding economics. They hear these critiques of modern capitalism and hear the ugly echoes of Michael Moore and Noam Chomsky. Of course, those younger dissidents formed their views far downstream from the prior generation.

Listen to dissidents talk about the culture, if you are of a certain age or older, and you hear the faint echoes of the hippies and beatniks of yesteryear. It was the counter-culture types that first criticized mass culture for its dehumanizing effects. They were the ones to first suggest dropping out to avoid being rubbed out. Today, it is dissidents dropping out of mass culture. Cord cutting and “not consuming product” are the modern version of “Turn on, tune in, drop out.”

This inversion of cultural reality is hard to appreciate, especially if you are a young person, as like the kayaker, the demands of the present don’t leave much time to contemplate the past. Even so, it is an important change in the culture of the country that should inform dissident politics. Maybe if more right-wingers had listened to the critics of corporate power a generation ago, we would not be dealing with the reality of a Jewish oligarch buying the White House in 2020.

It is also a good reminder that reactionaries always lose. The Right a generation ago, whatever its original aims, was transformed into a dancing partner of the Left and not the lead partner. The result was a Right that defended that which should not have been defended and blind to that which was the true threat to the nation. Conservatism in the 1980’s became nothing more than reaction to the excesses of left-wing people, rather than a response to left-wing politics.

There’s also the fact that the people manipulating events are not stupid and should never be dismissed as such. The anti-white raging we see today started a long time ago with the push for tolerance. The people pushing it knew what they were doing. When they told us to celebrate diversity, they never meant it. They always meant diversity to mean no white people. They just knew they could not say that, so they used the weight of the right-wing reactionaries against them instead.

That’s a lesson the modern dissident should try to learn from the failure of Buckley conservatism, as well as the failure of the old Left. Those people criticizing mass culture were right, but they did not win the argument. They had bad optics. The people worried about the growth of corporate power lost because they did not appreciate the power of material comfort. Simply opposing people you don’t like, almost always leads to succumbing to events you like even less.


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John Smith
John Smith
Member
4 months ago

Hmmmmmm. I’ve come to accept the dissident idea that our politicos are nothing more than dancing monkeys, capering to the tune of their organ grinders whom we never actually see. But it appears that they are coming out of the woodwork. Trump is an eeeeeeevil billionaire and in the pocket of eeeeeevil joooos. Bloomberg IS an evil Joo with billions. They don’t hang upside down in dark caves anymore; they are out among us in broad daylight. “Maybe if more right-wingers had listened to the critics of corporate power a generation ago, we would not be dealing with the reality… Read more »

Xtasorcery
Reply to  John Smith
4 months ago

Conspiracy theorists are equal in number to astrologists. Both groups seek patterns in the stars, where constellations look like flying horses and skyscrapers and missiles trailing contrails . . .

— X.
http://www.dark.sport.blog

Walt
Walt
Reply to  Xtasorcery
4 months ago

Yet the conspiracy theorists keep getting things right.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  John Smith
4 months ago

Those anti-trust and anti-monopoly laws were the resistance to capitalism. What we have now is much closer to pure capitalism.

It’s in the name. They don’t call it marketism or private-property-ism. Both of which are pretty good and (I believe) predate capitalism by thousands of years.

John Smith
John Smith
Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 months ago

Whatever. We used to regulate the predatory behaviours that would lead to capitalism undermining itself. There was a time we took steps preventing greed and aviarice from turning venture capitalism into vulture capitalism. Mind you, we used to have morals and ethics before socialists undermined the churches, the schools and the gov’t too.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  John Smith
4 months ago

Sorry for the misunderstanding. We agree. Been thinking it’s important to separate good from bad. Capitalism means economic freedom to some, to others it means excess. I’m a millennial. Don’t want my fellow millennials throwing the baby out with the bath water!

FashGordon
FashGordon
4 months ago

The biggest problem I have in navigating the cultural waters is that much of that water is actually just saline. In 2016 over 50% of internet traffic was bots, and I’d bet that ratio is even more skewed now. Fake view counts, fake followers, fake people. How can one glean an accurate picture of the wider cultural currents when the bulk of one’s veiw is obfuscated and painted over? You simply can’t. All I can know for sure is what the trusted people in life life think and that picture is muddled by my own influence on them. They are… Read more »

wxtwxtr
wxtwxtr
Reply to  FashGordon
4 months ago

Bots? I see none of that in my daily perusal of the Interwebz.

FashGordon
FashGordon
Reply to  wxtwxtr
4 months ago

Yeah bots, you can buy followers, views, thumbs etc. very useful for astroturfing a bandwagon effect. One of the ways they gaslight us is by creating fake popularity for their degenerate pet projects. Which sadly in turn creates real popularity because many people are sheep who will gravitate to whatever appears to be where everyone else is going. One of the ways the uber wealthy freakshows force feed the masses to create the more disgusting aspects of our culture.

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  FashGordon
4 months ago

Oh, for the good old days when Uncle Walter told us what was news and what to think

Jim-bo-bo
Jim-bo-bo
Reply to  FashGordon
4 months ago

Agreed

Tykebomb
Tykebomb
4 months ago

The single greatest blackpill, to me, was going back and reading about the past elections. Learning about how John McCain lost the nomination to Bush the Lesser and then Bush immediately hiring McCain’s entire foreign policy staff for the general was disturbing. Especially, as Trump did the exact same thing to staff his White House. Going further back and listening to Pat Buchanan or Ross Perot is a different kind of disturbing.

The Z Man has been really good about pointing out the sisyphean nature of our political process.

ChetRollins
ChetRollins
Reply to  Tykebomb
4 months ago

I forget who said it, but the most apt thing to describe current politics is “Whoever you vote for, you’ll end up with John McCain”.

Brian
Brian
Reply to  ChetRollins
4 months ago

Tom Woods said that.

Tarstarkusz
Tarstarkusz
Reply to  Tykebomb
4 months ago

Well, to be fair, Trump had a government to run and it was somewhat that or keeping the Obama team. I personally think he should have brought Buchanan in and had Buchanan help with building the teams and hiring. But Trump was also never going to be perfect and it was very obvious to anyone who wasn’t a raving idiot that Trump was not an antisemite like the media portrayed him to be. Hiring Bolton was a surprise to me though and was definitely the low point of the Trump presidency. Papa Bush was a neocon and so Bush Jr’s… Read more »

Mike D
Mike D
Reply to  Tarstarkusz
4 months ago

I never understood the idiocy of those who thought Trump was an anti-Semite when his favorite daughter married both an ethnic and observant Jew from a rich, Democrat Zionist family in NYC. (And corrupt). And one of the first things Trump did after taking office was to make Kushner a special adviser and demanded that he get a security clearance. A true White Nationalist or even nominally anti-Semite would not have even considered such a thing. He also would’ve forbidden his favorite daughter from marrying a Jew. Trump is a shabbez goy.

FashGordon
FashGordon
Reply to  Mike D
4 months ago

Desperate people yearn for a strong champion to lead them. Trump was the closest thing to a counter-semite in a powerful position we had. At least he seemed to be an isolationist, and he dogwhisteled the crap out of whites, criticized anti-white PC culture and called out non-white interest groups like La Raza. I had high hopes for him too, never thought he was necessarily an anti-semite just that he maybe had some loyalty to his own kind. Unfortunately it seems that he only did all that stuff to get elected. But one great thing he did do was reveal… Read more »

ReturnOfBestGuest
ReturnOfBestGuest
Reply to  Tykebomb
4 months ago

Your post could be called “Voting Doesn’t Matter: a New Chapter.” There are now more troops (and associated personnel) in the ME than when Trump took office. You can go back from 2009 until the inauguration and citizen Trump, then candidate Trump was in favor of disengaging from the ME. He called out the Saudis. After that he reversed course to the point of overriding congress to give the Saudis sensitive military technology. Why?

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  ReturnOfBestGuest
4 months ago

So the plucky Saudis could do the Houthi Holodomor in Yemen?

whitney
Member
4 months ago

“There’s also the fact that the people manipulating events are not stupid and should never be dismissed as such. The anti-white raging we see today started a long time ago with the push for tolerance. The people pushing it knew what they were doing.” Yeah, they always knew it. They always knew what they were doing and I know that because I saw it when I was 15 in high school. I heard the maxim ‘the oppressed always become the oppressors’ and I knew that they were coming for white people and if I knew it in all my youthful… Read more »

DLS
DLS
Reply to  whitney
4 months ago

It was the Right that was stupid, believing the Mexican replacement was okay, because they were really natural Republicans. Hardworking, christians, conservative morals. All we had to do was let them all in so as not to alienate them.

Whitney
Member
Reply to  DLS
4 months ago

In the early eighties it wasn’t even on the radar. It was all black-white.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Whitney
4 months ago

I think it depends on where you were at the time, Whitney. The first time I noticed ‘Hispanics’ in general and began to have a problem with them was the early ’80s when the DC area began to fill up with Salvadorans and Nicaraguans – courtesy of muh great Reagan and his anti-communism thing in South America. Very ironic, for me – who dismissed French language instruction in elementary school because that’s what everyone else took, and found Spanish more exotic and interesting and so studied that when I hit middle school.

UpYours
UpYours
Reply to  3g4me
4 months ago

Reagan was the quintessential Cuckley conservative, his only two accomplishments were tax cuts and Muh Russia. Beyond that he agreed with the old Left on everything.

Whitney
Member
Reply to  3g4me
4 months ago

That makes sense. I worked in restaurants After High School though and the kitchens were still filled with white guys. Now it’s all Mexicans

Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  Whitney
4 months ago

When I graduated high school in Florida in the early 80s a lot of white guys in my class went straight into construction earning decent money. This doesn’t happen so much anymore.

Member
Reply to  Whitney
4 months ago

Hispanics have been trouble since that guy in the Hispanic gang, the Sharks, knifed the guy in the White gang, the Jets. That was, like, 1957.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Vizzini
4 months ago

It was important that West Side Story avoid racism. Natural racists might get stupid ideas.

My gosh, they might’ve thought that rising wages would pay for that ironclad Social Security lockbox.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

I can’t seem to find it at the moment, but Devon Stack, aka Blackpilled, made a brilliant analyses of WSS, pointing out how the white alphafemale betrays the tribe, dragging the white alphamale into appeasement, the movie basically ending with the Jets accepting that they have to share their territory with the poc.

Plus a number of other good observations about the conduct of the police, the kike whispering and so forth. If anyone has that link, I’d appreciate it.

ReturnOfBestGuest
ReturnOfBestGuest
Reply to  DLS
4 months ago

They never believed that. If they had we’d be seeing different statistics.

Member
Reply to  DLS
4 months ago

The Buckley Right wasn’t stupid but was sure that their followers were either dumb, ill-informed, or both. Basically, any political movement with as much money as the Right back then has no excuse for supporting the Latin replacement. Today, it’s easy to find things like birth rate statistics online. Back then it was all in oversized tomes at the library. So you might have needed to actually get in the car and go there. What a hardship right? Then there were the blossoming “think tanks”. If there had been any doubts about the likely effects of Latinization that the libraries,… Read more »

Member
Reply to  whitney
4 months ago

” I do find I get pissed off at people that claim they didn’t see it coming.” I am stuck being pissed off at people who still don’t see it coming and they are the majority of whites

ChetRollins
ChetRollins
4 months ago

The most effective current dissident is going to be the one who has the foresight to merge talking points of the old left and the dissident right and transcend the silly Team Red and Team Blue dichotomy. In truth, it might be easier to infiltrate the democratic political machine in right wing areas (think Blue dog democrats) with a platform of railing against corporatism, consumerism, while advocating for better wages and working conditions for employees like the democrats of a generation ago. This would make up for not voting for ‘woke’ culture politics, which, honestly, is something many liberals just… Read more »

Normie
Reply to  ChetRollins
4 months ago

This is exactly what Bernie’s rallies are about (and why he’s going to easily take the nomination.)

ReturnOfBestGuest
ReturnOfBestGuest
Reply to  Normie
4 months ago

You may think that, but the constant rule changes, i.e., to exclude Tulsi, but then change and pivot to include Bloomberg are hilarious and transparent.

ReturnOfBestGuest
ReturnOfBestGuest
Reply to  Normie
4 months ago

I don’t want any voices excluded in a political debate.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  ReturnOfBestGuest
4 months ago

The right attitude. In a civilized environment. Hence it may be unwise with people who treat politics like zero sum war and you like the enemy.

HamburgerToday
HamburgerToday
Reply to  ChetRollins
4 months ago

National populism is the marriage of Left economics with Right social policies. Mix in a a little race awareness and you have National Socialism which, again, combines Left economics with Right social policies. The old Left/Right/Democrat/Republican/Conservative/Liberal paradigm is a dead end, has been since the early 1900’s. Were it not for two World Wars and the Cold War, what’s happening now would have happened in the 1920’s.

Carl B.
Carl B.
4 months ago

Americans had better wake up to the fact that a filthy Jewish Communist and an arrogant, duplicitous Jewish oligarch have a good chance of taking the reigns of power in this country and destroying it.

David_Wright
Member
Reply to  Carl B.
4 months ago

I like the old fashioned way with a jewish puppet fronting for their interests. You know, like currently.

B B
B B
Reply to  Carl B.
4 months ago

Or choose option 3: ‘the King of Israel.’ Waking up probably just means realizing there’s nothing to be done in the sphere of traditional politics and then get to work in other areas and public spaces.

Normie
Reply to  Carl B.
4 months ago

Wow Carl… Keep falling for the Red team Blue team.

That or wake up to the fact that we have a low IQ “King of Israel” literal moron exploding the national debt and worrying more about his Twitter feed and letting out DEM criminals…

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Carl B.
4 months ago

Perhaps you meant ‘reins’ of power, but ‘reigns’ of power also works (or even ‘rains’ of power). In any case (and plagiarising ‘Z’ man description yesterday) if it’s Over-The-Top Jewish Oligarch, or Unfrozen Bolshevik Caveman – reins, reigns, and rains, all are apt.

Carl B.
Carl B.
Reply to  Stranger in a strange land
4 months ago

I meant “reigns” because that’s precisely what those two Jew bastards will do is reign over us with the 100% backing of the fascist Deep State.

Member
4 months ago

C’est la guerre.

Carl B.
Carl B.
4 months ago

Oligarch News today:

The Washington Post is taking criticism for an op-ed published Tuesday by Marquette University political science professor Julia Azari, titled: “It’s time to give the elites a bigger say in choosing the president.”

The Deep State, which already holds the Presidency hostage, needs more “say.” I see no other way this thing ends but in violence and bloodshed.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Carl B.
4 months ago

How can you give bigger than 100% control? What, not only do they get to choose the Pres, but we have to celebrate their choice with loud clapping?

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  c matt
4 months ago

Matt, that’s correct. The Leftist progression is basically; intolerance to tolerance, tolerance to acceptance, acceptance to celebration, celebration to civil right, civil right to official enforcement.

Worked for the gays—and they’re not done yet!

Calsdad
Calsdad
Reply to  Compsci
4 months ago

It’s discrimination and racism to not be tolerant of the gay lifestyle……

Will very soon evolve into – it’s intolerant and racist to not actively participate in the gay lifestyle.
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The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Calsdad
4 months ago

You laugh, but it’s coming. They will incentivize that lifestyle with the FedGov social credit system that will eventually be installed in this country.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Calsdad
4 months ago

In Covington’s novels, the government gave you special benefits for being homosexual, but it required documented proof of your orientation.

Member
Reply to  LineInTheSand
4 months ago
Bill_Mullins
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
4 months ago

Never saw that flick since it starred two of my LEAST favorite (alleged) entertainers of all times. I cannot stand either of those guys; never could. Whoever told those guys they were funny should’ve been horse whipped to within a millimeter of their lives.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  LineInTheSand
4 months ago

I guess I will just have to identify as a trans-trans man to get around the rules (a biological male who self-identifies as a female who self-identifies as a male).

The Right Doctor
The Right Doctor
Reply to  LineInTheSand
4 months ago

I’m gay – but I’m celibate. Now: where’s the gibs?

T. Morris
T. Morris
Reply to  The Right Doctor
4 months ago

There’s a reason a bunch of us straight white males occasionally self-identify as “lesbians.” N.B. that the “L” in the salad invariably takes first place in the lineup.

Chester White
Chester White
Reply to  T. Morris
4 months ago

I’m a transgendered lesbian. I look like a man and like chicks.

Bill_Mullins
Member
Reply to  Chester White
4 months ago

Chester White wrote, “I’m a transgendered lesbian. I look like a man and like chicks.”

Works for me.

wxtwxtr
wxtwxtr
Reply to  c matt
4 months ago

The ‘Murikan Soviet. 🙂

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
4 months ago

Makes sense to me. The ‘elite’ has married hypercapitalism, especially finance, media and off-shore manufacture in exploitative conditions, to leftwing ideas about egalitarianism, generous welfare and importation of millions of very alien aliens. It seems anyone who cares about the normal heritage people, would have to oppose this. But to think that this is primarily about economic interests of different groups is to miss the big picture. The reason oligarchs and social justice warriors can agree and merge so effortlessly, is that they share the same materialistic view of life. Life, to them, is ‘just things’. This shared point of… Read more »

Mike D
Mike D
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
4 months ago

Well Moran, the problem is which brand of Christians are you talking about here? I say this because the strongest brand of Christianity in the US right now is the Evangelical Dominionist one. You know, the one in which Mike Pompeo and Mike Pence are aligned with. They are the biggest Zionists in the US. Hell, there are many, many Jews in this country who are not that much aligned with Zionism. These Evangelical Dominionist whackos are ever bit as committed to serving Israel as they are to serving the interests of the US. In fact they see the interests… Read more »

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Mike D
4 months ago

Well if I said what I thought, I would not be burying any hatchets as I suggested we should do. But the fact remains, Christianity is largely a new iteration of Judaism, ‘for the masses’, and b/c of its geographical origin, will always remain obsessed w the ME I think. That’s kinda why I personally think it is our first ‘ME import mistake’. But it was once a spiritual force animating the West and if there’s any spunk left in some of its branches, that’s not a spiritual fuel we may want to throw away I think. At the end… Read more »

Mike D
Mike D
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
4 months ago

I doubt there are any brown Odin “worshipers” in Sweden. And from what I understand, even white pagans don’t technically “worship” Odin. The approach to the pagan gods is not the same as it is among the Abrahamic faiths.

I will say that there are scattered about some smallish independent white Christian churches who still have some of that old spiritual force you referred to. They are not aligned with Evangelicals or Dominionists. They are very few of course.

Anonymous Reactionary
Anonymous Reactionary
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
4 months ago

Talmudic Judaism has nothing to do with either Christians (real ones, Catholic or Orthodox) or the Hebrews.

Jesco White
Jesco White
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
4 months ago

British soldiers in WW2 that had served in North Africa went into battle yelling “woohoo Muhammad” as a battle cry because they learned it from the natives. The Romans excelled by incorporating the good ideas from the different cultures they ran into. I’ll leave it to the rest of you to make inferences about Christianity in this context.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Mike D
4 months ago

Mike D – I have had limited success weaning my dear friend away from this worship of Israel. She now recognizes just how many (((special people))) are running things, both here and in the UK, and she accepts putting American interests first, but she’s rationalized it by deciding the specials in America aren’t real specials like those in the bible. It drives me a bit nuts, but since it’s definitely stopped the blind adoration of special people, it’s enough for now.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  3g4me
4 months ago

If only the Hebrew god would send along some Assyrians or earthquakes or something, but noooo, it almost seems like he’s rewarding them. As if they’re actually doing his will.

Are the evangels quite sure Who it is they’re working for?
(I see it a bit… differently. The Deceiver can read, you know. And write.)

I reconcile the two by pointing out that Jesus had a pagan father, Emperor Tiberius.

The Semitic god isn’t his father; our god, the spirit of our people, was in Him, and is our father. They weren’t writing about us.

Member
Reply to  Mike D
4 months ago

Evangelical Dominionism, like the rest of Evangelicalism, follows a “business model” approach to religion. What’s good for ANY business? Growth, growth always and forever. The cucking to immigration and multicult can all be explained this way. Up to some ill-defined point (probably in the mid 1990s) Evangelicalism could grow just by draining off whites unhappy with the increasingly Marxist mainline denominations. Most of those are now essentially zombies. They still exist on trust fund money but their congregations have fled to the mega-churches. Where’s the new growth going to come from? The white mainline “market” is saturated. Hey, how about… Read more »

Mike D
Mike D
Reply to  pozymandias
4 months ago

Of course the overall Eastern and Greek Orthodox Church is in the US, and there are some actual Russian Orthodox congregations here too. In fact there is one in my area.

Member
Reply to  Mike D
4 months ago

The Northwest has a large Russian minority and in parts of Portland you will find neighborhoods with signs in Russian. I’ve long been interested in Russia and Eastern Europe and know a bit of Russian. I’d like to visit one of the area’s ROC congregations but also don’t want to seem like a religion tourist. Overall I’m impressed with any nation, religion, or region that seems to resist globohomo and Big Joo in general. American Christianity is just too entangled with it’s own sort of show business approach to religion. It’s hard to resist Clown World when you yourself are… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Mike D
4 months ago

Blame Pence and Pompous on the Scofield bible. May the Catholic Church was on to something about not letting nutjobs loose with Scripture.

Mike D
Mike D
Reply to  c matt
4 months ago

Yes the Scofield Bible was and is a dastardly creation. It led to all the crazy prophetic nonsense in the 20th and now 21st century. Mr. Scofield was an agent of the Deceiver if there ever was one. It’s probably no coincidence that the Zionist movement started around the same time, the late 19th century.

The very early church strongly considered not canonizing the book of Retarda….I mean Revelation. It’s too bad that they didn’t listen to their better instinct on that one.

Major Hoople
Major Hoople
Member
Reply to  Mike D
4 months ago

I find them irritating, but deliberately writing off an extremely large group of white people doesn’t seem a good long term plan. Continually figuring out ways to paint yourself into a corner isn’t a way to achieve any cultural or political result. TimNY

AltitudeZero
AltitudeZero
4 months ago

It’s important to note, for historical purposes, that while the Left may have been right about corporate media power back in the 1980’s, they were wrong about almost everything else, most especially race. It would have been very hard to support them on this one issue without advancing the rest of their dangerous and stupid agenda. Hindsight is 2020.

Tykebomb
Tykebomb
Reply to  AltitudeZero
4 months ago

We need to promote and further develop a right wing critique of Capitalism. This requires digging into obscure 19th and 20th century philosophers and descends into a lot of fascist and communist minutia. Remember that there was a conservative wing of the Democrat party until recently.

AltitudeZero
AltitudeZero
Reply to  Tykebomb
4 months ago

“Remember that there was a conservative wing of the Democrat party until recently”

Yeah, I know, I used to be one…

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Tykebomb
4 months ago

I wouldn’t dig into men from the age of steam talking about ideas from the age of sail.

I’d point out, first, that things ain’t what they used to be.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  AltitudeZero
4 months ago

The only major difference between the dissident right and the “dissident” left (AKA Bernie/Tulsi/Mike Gravel voters) is belief in racialism. I was (still am) anti-capitalist and anti-war, which by normie standards should make me a lefty, but my belief in race-realism throws me to the “right”. Us and the dissident left could be one big happy family, were it not for their childish insistence that race doesn’t matter. If you want to turn a Bernie Bro to our side, hammer that point that race does matter and thinking so does not make you a supremacist or evil bad man.

ReturnOfBestGuest
ReturnOfBestGuest
Reply to  Marko
4 months ago

“Capitalism” in the sense of price discovery, markets, and creative destruction hasn’t existed since before anyone posting here has been alive. I vaguely remember the first car-manufacturer bailouts. I don’t remember if there were protests or not. But a precedent was set.

Normie
Reply to  Marko
4 months ago

I love this post Marko. Being an old school Liberal I enjoy reading this blog because every now and then (like today’s post) I feel like I agree with a lot of what our host has to say.

I still can’t see people in terms of race or sexuality though. Too many life experiences tell me that people are individuals and what were born into makes way more difference than the color of our skin…

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Normie
4 months ago

“I still can’t see people in terms of race or sexuality though.”

Individuals are unique and should be treated as such but your personal experiences are overwhelmed by the implacable outcomes of demographics and statistics.

I can have a black Jewish f@ggot friend (Jussie Smollett?) and still believe that the blacks, homosexuals, and Jews, as groups, are enemies of traditional white people.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Normie
4 months ago

That’s what makes this hard and sad, Normie, because we all feel as you do.
We don’t hate any sinners, only the damage they and coddling them does.

That’s why the adults have to stand up and take back over.

There are too many good and decent people on any other side, but being beyond fair is going to get everyone killed.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Normie
4 months ago

Normie, what you wrote is derisively termed as ‘NAXALT’ in these circles. I also tend to see people as individuals, when I meet them, and I don’t like bringing my HBD baggage along when I meet or speak to new people. That said, I will judge people or groups of people based on their appearance, and I have no problem stereotyping either. It’s a natural human instinct, and yes it can turn people into bigots and worse. But the opposite is the ethno-masochism and serial open-mindedness that’s threatening destroy white/Western societies. I do feel guilty when I pre-judge some person… Read more »

Maus
Maus
Reply to  Normie
4 months ago

With respect to race, it’s not the skin color (that’s just a handy proxy); it’s the low IQ, low impulse control; aggression and high time preference. POC just don’t function well in places where Western Civilization is the dominant cultural force. So, Africa for the Africans and, in general, the northern hemisphere for the Ice people and the southern for the Sun people — to use Derb’s terms. With respect to sexuality, if some dude wants anal sex with another dude in the privacy of his closet, that’s his problem and not mine. If, however, I am forced to celebrate… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Normie
4 months ago

The problem with denying race realism is the same as denying any observable fact – it will lead to disastrous policy decisions. One of the biggest examples is the illusion/delusion known as “disparate impact” – the false notion that because achievement outcomes don’t mirror the particular racial makeup of society, it must be due to racism rather than inherent attributes of a particular ethnicity/race. This leads to horrible policies such as quotas promoting incompetents simply because of their race/ethnicity. Recognizing that differences do exist and letting the chips fall will still allow the top of any ethnic/racial group to rise,… Read more »

Member
Reply to  Normie
4 months ago

Think of it this way. The human mind evolved two strategies for evaluating people. One is individually and the other is as members of groups. The former method is slow but more accurate, the latter is extremely fast but less accurate as it misses the outliers in the group. Both strategies have proven essential for survival. Systematically preventing people from using the group strategy is an attack on their survival. Actually it’s worse than that in our society since the DIE (diversity, inclusion, equity) methodology forces people to actively disfavor their own group and favor hostile outgroups. This doesn’t so… Read more »

Mike_C
Mike_C
Reply to  Normie
4 months ago

“can’t see people in terms of race or sexuality” Hopefully you’re not a physician. Our job is all about applying stereotypes about those (more usually sex rather than sexuality, but still) factors, then testing the initial hypothesis in the case of each individual patient. If patient AA comes in with chest pain brought on by exertion, and AA is a fat 60-year old male smoker then heart attack (or angina at any rate) is pretty much first on my list of potential problems. If BB comes in with chest pain that can be evoked by pressing on a particular spot,… Read more »

Drake
Drake
4 months ago

30 years ago I was already aware of the Left’s long march through the institutions. Yet somehow it never occurred to me that they would eventually take over big business. I always assumed that “the real world” of business would be an effective firewall to their craziness. Silly me.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Drake
4 months ago

No one even 15 years ago could have imagined that trans girls would be beating actual girls in sports, that grown men’s access to girls’ locker rooms and restrooms was suddenly a ‘civil rights issue’, that the NY Times would stand by a crazy, sh*t testing Korean girl spouting genocidal language against whites or that genocidal language against whites would move within throwing distance of Overton. The current state of affairs is far crazier than any reasonable person could possibly have conceived of only a few years ago. Things are accelerating and at some point, while the West is going… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
4 months ago

California is moving to exclude convicted trans and gay pedophiles from the sex offenders lists. Because of gay rights or something like that. You couldn’t make this stuff up if you tried.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Dutch
4 months ago

Eventually it will have to be to our advantage that our opponents are, evidently, batsh*t crazy. Being up against someone totally cuckoo is scary in the moment. But with the significant silver lining that you know they will defeat themselves at some point, or nature will step in and do it. I guess the trick is just to be somewhere else when that happens.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
4 months ago

“Somewhere else” is the go-to plan. The electronics and the smart devices are constantly pinging your whereabouts. When the balloon goes up, you need to be in a sustainable cubbyhole that is thousands of feet away from any of your pings, ever, and that also is relatively invisible. A tall order.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Dutch
4 months ago

Since 97% of our pharmaceuticals and electronics come from China, Jesus might be listening.

Imagine Leftmerica with no Prozac and no Internet of Things.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Dutch
4 months ago

Cali do what? OMFG.

Two words. No, three.
Gavin Fookin Newsome.

Wait, didn’t a Newsome get his name in the papers with the “Under God” lawsuit?
Is our governor that same nobody?
Another plant in the audience?

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
4 months ago

How about Boy Scouts of America allowing gay scout leaders and abandoning its Christian mission? The sex abuse lawsuits were already starting to pile up, so naturally their solution was to allow openly homosexual men to take boys on camping trips..

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  DLS
4 months ago

If we cant beat these nutjobs, we probably dont deserve to survive. This freak show cannot go on. We are blessed with insane opponents. Our bad that we re not able to make that count, yet.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
4 months ago

The liberal media bullies people into silence. Normies figure if something doesn’t affect them directly, it’s not worth the effort to complain. After a long enough time, the insanity becomes normalized, and it’s on to the next tier of crazy.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  DLS
4 months ago

The crazy will come for everyone, sooner or later. The difference is that we have some level of comprehension about what is coming. Leverage that understanding among you and yours.

Normie
Reply to  DLS
4 months ago

How about the BSA allowing pedophiles as Scout leaders for 40 years and doing nothing about it…

People seem to care more about Gay’s in the ranks than pedophiles. I don’t get it?

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Normie
4 months ago

It seems to me that there is a larger intersection between male homosexuals and pedophiles than between male heteros and pedos. Male homosexuals are sexualized at a younger age. I’m not sure gays have a problem with a 30 year old man and a 15 year old boy, whereas heteros tend to see this as an abhorrent age difference.

I think this is what we see in the Catholic church abuse. If pedos were evenly distributed in orientation, why are the priest abuse victims almost exclusively male?

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Normie
4 months ago

Rewriting history is what they do.
Normie, 40 years my azz. I was in BS and it was troop dads volunteering, with moms as the Den Mothers, so sod off.

Can’t have normal, responsible family dads and moms showing neighborhood kids- even ones from single parent homes- how to be self-sufficient adults with skills. Oh no, so sod RIGHT the fuck off.

“I still can’t see people in terms of race or sexuality though. Too many life experiences tell me…” that you are a sniveling, cowardly, self-righteous chickenshit.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

I tried being nice, above, I’m a sucker.
How damn dare you say that about Mr. Phillips, his fine family, and my exhausted mom literally saving nickels and pennies so we could do Boy Scouts for a few months! “Normie”, you just made an enemy.

Mike D
Mike D
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

I was in the BS forty years ago and my Scoutmaster got caught being inappropriate with more than one boy younger than 13. He was kicked out and banned from returning to the BSA for ten years. (It should’ve been lifetime ban). This was an unusual situation in that he was in his twenties, unmarried with no kids of his own. He shouldn’t have been allowed to be a SM obviously. You know, he should’ve been asked, “Just why do you want to be a SM at your age with no kids of your own. Shouldn’t you be dating in… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  DLS
4 months ago

A Wash Post headline from 2015:
“Reform Jews urge BSA to include Gay/Transgender”

And guess the ethnicity and sex of the director responsible at the BSA? You bet, yentas rule!

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

(Late correction: Wash Times)

T. Morris
T. Morris
Reply to  DLS
4 months ago

A few of us at least saw the admission of sodomite “scout leaders” in the BSA coming from a proverbial mile off when the organization first announced it was going to capitulate to demands to include open homosexual scouts among its ranks. We saw it coming way before that, in point of fact, but we also knew that the way for sexual degenerates/NAMBLA pedophiles to infiltrate scouting had to be opened from the bottom up, not the top down. In other words, via the boys themselves, not their leadership. This is why we so strongly opposed initiation of a process… Read more »

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Drake
4 months ago

30 years ago I couldn’t have envisioned that the Republican squares I so despised, and was convinced had an iron grip on “the system”, would be replaced by shrieking leftist church-people who have since thoroughly taken over “the system” and instead of tacky Bud Light commercials and smug country club white guys in suits, I have multi-culti SAS commercials and managerial homosexuals. I want James Baker back! I was wrong!

Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  Drake
4 months ago

@Drake I too never imagined the business community taking such a hard left turn. A company assuming an extreme political stand publically was once taboo. I mean everyone buys dish soap. Right? I also never thought that SJWs would infect the culture of football. Having played in the South up through high school in the late 70s and early 80s, I shudder to think what my coach would have done to me if I had decided to “take a knee”.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Judge Smails
4 months ago

Judge, why did we think the successful Long March had stopped? Will ever stop, unless stopped?

Material comfort ceases Gramschi?
Success and riches stops radicals, what, in their tracks?
Is that, like, a law of physics or something?

Jacques_Lebeau
Member
4 months ago

Zman makes an excellent point when he insists that “dissident” does not mean reactionary. I have come to believe that a lot of the really outlandish stuff out there (the transgender frenzy for example) is really just a way of provoking reaction, with the aim of distracting our side from reflecting on, and creating real theoretical and practical alternatives. It seems increasingly important to ignore the loud background noise and focus on what can actually be done. We may get somewhere by lying low,boxing smart, taking whatever small steps we can (eg cutting the cable, dropping FB and Twitter, backing… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Jacques_Lebeau
4 months ago

“… with the aim of distracting our side from reflecting on, and creating real theoretical and practical alternatives.”

It’s not all that bad. There is out there unavoidable progress in an underlying alternative explanation/view of the human condition. That view lies in HBD science. The initial reaction was to simply nay say the theoretical basis and initial research. In short they found hacks to scream louder than the opposition, but the science/technology moved on and evidence accumulated. The genie is out of the bottle, it will never be replaced.

Outdoorspro
Outdoorspro
4 months ago

I’ll take our host’s analogy and run with it… I good kayaker, even in the most fierce rapids, is able to locate opportunities to ‘eddy-out’ and find moments to take a breath, read the waters and continue on with clarity. He understands the features that create the rapids and is practiced in moving with the water, instead of fighting against it. Occasionally, he’ll find a fun wave and stay in it for a while, surfing it, playing and enjoying the ride. An even better boater, while enjoying a fun surf, will always be aware of that large raft full of… Read more »

Tarstarkusz
Tarstarkusz
4 months ago

Now we not only have the natural rocks and boulders sitting in front of us to crash our kayak into, but there are also helicopters dropping boulders in front of us. For quite a while after 2016, the YT search engine was still pretty good. Today, they have made it all but useless along with Google. If you try searching for, say, Coronavirus in YT, you get page after page of MSM videos. Search for Trump and you get page after page of MSM videos. It wasn’t doing this as recently as a year ago. You now have to work… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Tarstarkusz
4 months ago

My general impression and experience has been that YT DR videos/channels/sources are not found, they are promoted via direct discussion among DR folks. I can’t remember a channel that I regularly view that was not made known to me by others. Those channels that I view via search or YT recommendations are never really DR stuff worth a second look. Heck, they’re not even the grifter channels we all decry so often. II can not think of a single channel of frequently viewed DR material, that was recommended by YT no matter how my recorded viewing habits skew. So yes,… Read more »

ReturnOfBestGuest
ReturnOfBestGuest
Reply to  Tarstarkusz
4 months ago

Google bought-out many of the alternative search engines, including DDG, which is why most search engines promote the same dreck. I’ve been playing with this one: https://swisscows.com/ It’s seems a little more family-friendly than some as they block pr0n results.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  ReturnOfBestGuest
4 months ago

Who says Google actually bought duckduckgo? I have not found any reliable evidence that this is true.

ReturnOfBestGuest
ReturnOfBestGuest
Reply to  BadThinker
4 months ago

I don’t know what your level of proof is. I’d suggest running one of those “queries” that was popular a couple of years ago that exposed G’s bias. Then there’s this: https://www.pcmag.com/news/duckduckgo-acquires-duckcom-from-google

Mike D
Mike D
Reply to  ReturnOfBestGuest
4 months ago

Well damn! I thought DuckDuckGo could be trusted. It’s CEO is named Gabriel Weinberg.

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
4 months ago

Whites have been keeping their heads above water by packing up and moving…and moving again…and again…and again. Most of suburbia is now built upon lands that were recently farms and woodlands. Trump is doing away with the Obama era Section Ape program for the suburbs and rural area because much of the work it was designed to do has already been done. Suburbs are already full of government subsidized housing and there are already enough brown people to buy their way into the lower end of the RE market, especially in markets that are depressed. Rural areas are depressed and… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Yves Vannes
4 months ago

Hard for me to believe that folks promoting Trump or Bernie have anything in common. I’d need some more examples, especially of ethnic/racial solidarity (albeit a hidden, underlying current).

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
Reply to  Compsci
4 months ago

Social networks can only function well in a racially homogeneous community. When Western Civ was 99% white we’d always had a mix economy, a mix political structure and a mixed urban-rural culture. The winner take all aspect of our politics and economics has been grafted onto our civilization as a form of control. We have an internal diversity that evolved symbiotically; there was a natural give and take between the castes/estates. It was the system under which we built a civilization – especially the Atlantic-North Sea civilization of modern Europe (800-1789). What largely prevents this union is…on the “conservative” side… Read more »

Normie
Reply to  Compsci
4 months ago

They are both lower class people that are tired of “globalism” and the rich taking everything but crumbs. Trumpkins that I am buddies with think he’s going to “tear things down” and love watching him “drive the libs nuts.” Bernie people I have spoken with want to see the smug boomer politicians die off and the neoliberal order torn down, and a fair system that helps poor people created. Two in the same. Yes Trumpkins hate socialists and Commies and Bernie people hate the evil moronic racists but when it comes to how the economy should benefit you can’t tell… Read more »

Whiskey
Whiskey
Reply to  Normie
4 months ago

Bernie is Bernie Bros, their moms work for NPR and being dateless incels they dream of running gulags, and Brown masses who want La Revolucion now and White peoples stuff now

ExNativeSon
ExNativeSon
Reply to  Yves Vannes
4 months ago

Yves—indeed, there is no place left to run. Section 8 is coming to your neighborhood as the left is working to end local zoning for single family housing and replacing that with state or national mandated zoning for mixed neighborhoods of single family housing with 3 story apartments that have no parking.

The rich will have their escape routes but for the vast majority of evil whitey….bye, bye.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  ExNativeSon
4 months ago

Yup, Ex, the mask has really dropped, hasn’t it?

ExNativeSon
ExNativeSon
Reply to  Dutch
4 months ago

Yes indeed, Dutch. Yes indeed.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  ExNativeSon
4 months ago

There are so many nice little neighborhood enclaves, where you feel safe outdoors, without listening to other people playing loud ghetto music and screaming at each other. I’m going to miss all that, when the time comes that teams are sent out to eliminate such places in the name of “fairness”.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
4 months ago

My blackpill is that i fail to see a institution or substantial faction pushing back against the degeneracy and poison being pumped into our culture. The churches seem largely to have collapsed. I keeping hoping that Catholicism will reform itself and get busy, but alas, they seem hopeless. Even the mormons seem subdued. I even sense that many jews (the better ones) are almost disappointed in our lack of cultural assertiveness. We need a incorruptible and uncompromising core that can be rallied around. I think that it would attract unlikely allies.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  SidVic
4 months ago

In the end, all we have is us. We will not vote our way out of this, we will not cleverly take power in other ways, and we will not cancel the “arrest and confiscate” tactics that are right around the corner. Why do you think local law enforcement agencies are taking pictures of everyone’s license plates as people travel around, and then trading the info with each other? Our job is survival, not prevailing. Prepare for it now. My blackpill for the day.

Major Hoople
Major Hoople
Member
Reply to  Dutch
4 months ago

Not a black pill. That’s a recognition of reality, Dutch. It’s a black pill only if you are still grieving, as I admit I do from time to time, for the lost America where you spent your childhood and younger years. Once you stop mourning that loss, you recognize that we have to outfit ourselves for a vastly different world.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  SidVic
4 months ago

Problem is you are depending on faith to solve your problems for you. Its no more possible for the modern church to reform the system now than it was for the Temple of Jupiter to do so during the decline periods in Rome The reason is simple, fewer and fewer people believe in those things including many, maybe most on our side, me included. While the other side certainly has faith of a sort its a redirection of the religious impulse to secular goals. No deity required. You and yours have to have goals, explicit goals and not depend on… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
4 months ago

Within reason, I’ve never understood the appeal of material comfort. I always feel better about myself after a day of hard, honest work than I do after a day of lying about. That warm, achey fatigue tells you you accomplished something. Doing nothing is relaxing but depressing.

To my mind it’s like addiction. The high feels good, but in the end you feel worse off for it. It becomes a downward spiral of chasing that first high. Then it ends one way or the other.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 months ago

Physical exertion feels good because it is good. Good for the mind and body—there is a nexus. Those who lay about destroy their bodies and eventually their minds. We are made for work. It is as natural as breathing. Nature designed us to do physical labor and thereby to survive. First we needed to hunt and gather. Then we needed to farm and harvest. Even the Industrial Revolution at first produced employment which predominately involved physical labor. The change from an agrarian society to an urban society was thus ameliorated. But that was not to last. Technology then came upon… Read more »

ReturnOfBestGuest
ReturnOfBestGuest
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 months ago

And I’m the opposite. Every time I have to go to the toilet in the middle of the night, in winter, in northern New England I devolve into ancestor worship. Hail my people! I am forever in your debt.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  ReturnOfBestGuest
4 months ago

Styrofoam toilet seats. A modern wonder 🙂

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
4 months ago

Bad Optics. heh. That assume we have a honest and open MSM. The people criticizing “mass culture” didn’t have bad optics, they had no optics when you have a MSM controlled by the same people who promote “mass culture” You simply get shut out. Even if you are allowed, you end up being confronted by a massive private sector PR machine and both political parties ganging up on you. This is what happened with Free Trade critics during the 90’s through 2016. The were shut out with the exception of Lou Dobbs when he had his show on CNN. It… Read more »

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Rwc1963
4 months ago

“They made the massive de-industrialization of our country a non topic.”

A big, fit, bearded dude made me a sandwich last night. He looked utterly defeated.

This guy ought to be working with a chainsaw, wielding a rivet gun, or throwing bales of hay around, not working at a service job.

I wanted to say something sympathetic but didn’t want to be patronizing.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  LineInTheSand
4 months ago

Machines do a lot of these things better , faster and cheaper than any workers . Unless the New Right State is going down a profoundly anti tech and anti capitalist path, its only going to get worse and in time when sandwich making machines get cheaper than people, the big guy will be replaced too. The only fix essentially requires us to embrace the concept common good. a degree of central social planning and to eschew progress as a major social goal. This isn’t easy, the US Right is immured in techno libertarian values and is allergic to even… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  abprosper
4 months ago

People will still pay more for hand made things, which were always scarce compared to the pile of machine made crap we have today. In fact, authenticity is more precious today than ever. People will pick up their lives and move around looking for it. When people get involved in their own lives the state starts to become irrelevant. Neighborhoods take care of their own. Sort of as it was in colonial America. Self government and federalism suited a people who minded their own business. So the state and corporations etc. had to make us dependent on them. I think… Read more »

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 months ago

Buying jeans with factory-made holes in them to signify authenticity

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  LineInTheSand
4 months ago
Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 months ago

Marks of wear and tear used to be earned honestly. Now they are just a choice of finish.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 months ago

Not wrong at all but this is not a nation made of mostly Anglo German farmers with a tech base that King Arthur would have had no trouble adapting too. Its now mostly urban (80%) cyberpunk dystopia and has to be governed as such. The people and conditions you need for the old ways are as dead as the Etruscan people. I get the loathing for change, we are after all mostly Conservative reactionaries here but there is no way back while the current situation holds. Trying to bring back a dead society and dead conditions is basically throwing a… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  abprosper
4 months ago

You’re right about how to govern a society like we have. I have a feeling we’ve gone over the peak. Rolling blackouts are a thing in California. So is the plague. Cali is the trendsetter. Moore’s law is toast. We weren’t supposed to need unskilled labor by now, yet illegal immigrants and Chinese slave labor are in demand. I take that as proof high tech has failed to deliver its ultimate promise. Probably capitalism too. These things have to keep growing and progressing or people lose confidence in them and they fall apart. So much of it is a confidence… Read more »

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 months ago

Low skilled mass immigrant labor is much cheaper than a living wage and automation at this point. Understandable because of asset inflation in housing and elsewhere a living wage would render many business models untenable. Assuming say a full time workers doing semi skilled labor should have 4x the income of a one bedroom apartment , this makes the wage of you McDonalds assistant manger $50 an hour! Now sure repatriation will help but the fundamentals are out of whack. This will require either an apocalyptic depression with mass death or government action on a massive scale to fix. We… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  abprosper
4 months ago

It doesn’t seem like we’re far apart on this. There’s two ways to look at it: 1. The Jetsons future was a scam. We were sold it so the rich and powerful could get richer and more powerful. They are in control, and it’s a reality we have to deal with. If I understand you, that’s more or less where you’re coming from. 2. The Jetsons future was the plan, but because of the limits of tech, degrading competence, or something else, it hasn’t worked out, and what we see today is an effort to keep people on board so… Read more »

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 months ago

The Jetson’s future was post apocalyptic akin to Elysium minus the human misery. This is actually canon in the avoidable PC reboot FWIW and its standard fan canon. Everybody downside is dead (or its the Flintstones take your pick) probably after an eco disaster and maybe mass genocide since everyone is White What you want is something more akin to Doc Smith’s Lensmen (minus the world smashing psi powers one hopes) or early/juvenile Heinlein where you have a healthy, natal, traditional (though not necessarily religious ) culture along side technology. I don’t know how that can happen without a lot… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  abprosper
4 months ago

Used to be access to knowledge was restricted. If you weren’t a scholar, monk, engineer, statesman, whatever, too bad. Sounds horrible in this democratic, internet age. Always thought it was self-interest at work, but I’m starting to see there might’ve been wisdom behind it. The mass of people are chaotic. It’s strange saying that.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  abprosper
4 months ago

Both conservatives and liberals were and are entirely devoted to the State enforcing social standards, instead of doing its damm job.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

The US is not and has never been a libertarian society. Thus a huge chunk of the job of the state is enforcing social standards. If you don’t want sodomy, drug use, porn, public nudity or sex, prostitution or a hundred other things none of which are crimes with actual victims the State needs to have laws and enforce those laws. The problem comes about when there are large gaps in the moral reasoning of the elite and the people or from one group of people to another. These gaps can only be bridged by force either by containing views… Read more »

Yak-15
Yak-15
4 months ago

This reminds me of the Iraq War Part 2. Really, it was a monstrously stupid idea from the beginning that had no basis in any real security interest of the United States. The old-school conservatives interested in great power politics knew it was a monumental waste but their views got lost in the screaming from the anti-war left. It was these people, and their smugness, self-absorption and unfounded piety that launched the war. One didn’t necessarily have to think through the implications of the war itself. All they had to do was look at the people opposing it and it… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Yak-15
4 months ago

Correct about IW2.

The fundamentally correct post-9/11 action, assuming one believes OBL was the mastermind, was to send a team to capture or kill OBL.

That is exactly what Obama did in 2011, when it was almost ten years too late and he needed a cheap political win.

bilejones
Member
Reply to  Yak-15
4 months ago

” it was a monstrously stupid idea from the beginning”
It was not stupid.
It perfectly accomplished the goal of destroying the most prosperous, literate Arab country and turning it into an ungovernable hellhole.
The people who believed the lies used to sell it were stupid.
Iraq War II was monstrously evil, not monstrously stupid.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
4 months ago

In 1955 or even 1985 those big corporations were indeed still giving us material comfort. Outside of Google and Amazon, the youngest of the monoliths, I don’t think you can still say that. The reason people (especially dissidents) are waking up is that these large companies are now using US as cash cows. The seating room on the airline, the old Comcast cable box that you “rent,” the customer service from hell, many reasons, but the real driver is how they treat their own employees. These companies are big enough to have at least one friend or family member that… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 months ago

JR, well said. I believe not too strongly can it be said. To criticise the current American experience is often seen as shibboleth. But I don’t think this group sees it as such—so no apology necessary. Z-man on more than one posting has spoken out against what you allude to, “unbridled capitalism”. To speak of such danger is not the logical equivalent to embracing “socialism”. Unfortunately, our young folk today experience all too often the bad side of capitalism, without the wisdom or knowledge to understand the good side of such a system. That is not their fault, it is… Read more »

ReturnOfBestGuest
ReturnOfBestGuest
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 months ago

I’m not even sure that it’s “socialism.” The wealth transfer has been from labor to global capital and they no longer pretend that “trickle down” even exists. Now it’s all GDP! GDP! GDP! So what if life expectancy is down? Suicides are up? So what if communities are being destroyed? Move! Learn to Code so you can train your third-world replacement after spending three hours a day commuting!

UpYours
UpYours
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 months ago

Well said, if and when socialism comes to America, I will have no problem if every single CXO is marched to an Alaskan labor camp. They broke it, they can keep it. Assholes. Once again, this started under Milton Fraudman and his BS “capitalism and muh freedom” and taken to the hilt by the Great Phony, Reagan.

Normie
Reply to  UpYours
4 months ago

Can’t happen soon enough… We aren’t living in a Capitalist society, we’re living in a Globalized hellscape and ignorant “conservatives” and Hillary “neoliberals” defend it.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 months ago

Nicely said. There is a hell of a lot of difference between wealth redistribution and government ownership of the means of production and our insistence that one always leads to another and the incessant propaganda is enough to turn anyone into a Bernie Bro Now I’m not a socialist or a social democrat, I’m a functionalist and if it requires wealth redistribution to make a functioning society (i.e healthy moral fertile populace) so be it. Of course wealth redistribution even in an honest society (which ours is not) is expensive and takes a lot of taxes. Americans don’t like each… Read more »

Jesco White
Jesco White
Reply to  abprosper
4 months ago

If all the money in the world disappeared overnight you’d still have “money” in politics. It’s called quid pro quo (barter). Destroying the usefulness of money by curbing its application does not solve the problem and merely invites Orwellian monetary surveillance.

Major Hoople
Major Hoople
Member
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 months ago

When socialism comes, our corporate ceo types will slide right into helping run it.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Major Hoople
4 months ago

Socialize costs, privatize profits is how many a corporation works.

ExNativeSon
ExNativeSon
4 months ago

Turn on, tune in, drop out indeed. Back in my faux hippie days that meant acid, see reality for what it is, take action. Not too much different from what I see as many having on this bog. Red pill, see reality, take action to disengage and build a different community. But this proved much harder than it looked. Back in the day, corporations, the rulers of academia, the FBI, the CIA were “the man” and were evil. Then came the Yuppie phase of making money and living a comfortable life. The Donald and The Bern as the yin and… Read more »

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  ExNativeSon
4 months ago

I know the hippies well, I live in old hippie land. In the early-mid 70’s they wanted Volvos and Birkenstocks and Osh Kosh overalls for their kids. All that was expensive. They also wanted the Pioneer stereo system for their “tunes” and it was off to the races by the 80’s. They fell into the same trap as their parents, only it was for luxury European and Japanese items not the new kitchen range that grandma liked. All this required money, and a lot of them became entrepreneurs to finance all of this Some of those businesses made it big… Read more »

Yak-15
Yak-15
4 months ago

The follow up to this post is that we must learn from the failure of those who failed to prevent the Second Iraq War. Optics matters as does building an argument that is persuasive to the other side. It is extremely important not to be a condescending know-it-all and it’s likewise essential to craft an argument that is effective for persuading those on the other side to buy your viewpoints. Being pointlessly racist or crowing about Jewish this or that detracts from our main arguments. We have to build a message that the other side can buy and that means… Read more »

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Yak-15
4 months ago

To me, authenticity counts for everything. It’s refreshing to hear someone being openly racist and ant-semitic as long as they’re being themselves. The offended parties are the problem. We shouldn’t bottle up who we are because (insert white woman with golden retriever) might be offended. Of course she’ll be offended, and love every minute of it.

Yak-15
Yak-15
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 months ago

I agree with this statement somewhat but we have to understand that Becky with Roofus is the key to victory. Keep a lid on the stuff that Doesn’t help the cause. Once we have won we can do as we please but until then that shit simply won’t fly.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Yak-15
4 months ago

The whole point of Becky wanting Chad is that Chad is Chad.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 months ago

Becky and Karen have no idea what is coming. They will be judged and convicted by the color of their skin, after being told and taught all their lives that skin color doesn’t matter. Their cog dis will be epic. Lots of tears.

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
4 months ago

The left wing hippies got sucked into the Reagan jet engine that gave them money, great jobs, cocaine, legalized porno, and steps toward sexual degeneracy and a loss of their white Christian civilization. The end of the Soviet Union and the roaring 90’s provided more money as blow jobs in the White House was poo pooed as “just sex”. The 2000’s gave us “gay marriage” and wars in the Middle East against terrorism but in truth benefited our “ worlds greatest ally” Israel and the oil oligarchy in Saudi Arabia. Now in 2020 we got a choice of three great… Read more »

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
4 months ago

Wanted to add that I tend to think we are seeing the enlightenment play out in America to its logical conclusion, radical eglatarianism. The Jewish Oligarchs and the Jewish Communists along with the flashy Gentile Casino operator Trump are just the result of the decadence that a secular culture creates. The Puritans and the WASPS once held back the outlandish secularism because they still clung to a form of Christianity. Now that form of Christianity is gone and a secular progressivism replaced it as the new religion of the progressive Gentiles and it just so happens that secular Jewish interests… Read more »

wxtwxtr
wxtwxtr
4 months ago

“… modern capitalism …” is, of course, fully licensed, regulated, legal and chartered as corporations. By whom? And why? And what “free market”? Where’s my ROFL?

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  wxtwxtr
4 months ago

Always support Average Joes Gym over Globo-Gym.

wxtwxtr
wxtwxtr
4 months ago

“… hippies and beatniks of yesteryear …” I watched that from the sidelines, being too busy studying and working to engage is such frivolity. And a little too young. We discussed the influence and danger of the ubiquitous “outside agitators” who seemed to fund and organize those circuses then ‘majic’-ly disappear into the ether afterwards.

Dave
Dave
4 months ago

The Left opposed big, powerful institutions until it managed to infiltrate and take over those institutions. Shocking, I know.

The Left will advance from one glorious victory to the next as long as they can print enough money to pay for their nonsense.

Dutch
Dutch
4 months ago

“A Pause in the River”. A play on Naipaul’s “A Bend in the River”? That’s a big blackpill right there, but an appropriate one, IMO. The idea of trying to make good in a really bad environment…

Naipaul’s message, IMO, is that the way to win (or at least survive) is to not play, and to get out of Dodge City.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
4 months ago

“Simply opposing people you don’t like, almost always leads to succumbing to events you like even less.”

I supported globalist capitalism and opposed environmentalism because hippies irritated me.

I supported the Iraq invasion because I hated pacifists.

I’m trying to be smarter from now on.

Sandmich
Sandmich
Reply to  LineInTheSand
4 months ago

What I thought was interesting was when Kasich ran for gov in Ohio the lefties squealed about how he was going to sell the state off to his “Wall Street buddies”. At the time I, and apparently a majority of the state, thought they were kooks who would say that no matter who was running. Low and behold though, that’s what he exactly what he did! He “bonded out” the liquor sales, “bonded out” the toll road, and was going to “bond out” the lottery too but I think he issues with that (I can’t recall). The state got nothing… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Sandmich
4 months ago

Sandmich, everything on the Left is situational. “Meh” is their way of ignoring what must be ignored in order to fit their situation of that moment. They can then come back to it and raise the roof about it when the new situation deems it necessary.

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
4 months ago

Buckley et al accomplished their goals, solved or mitigated their problems of that time. We are not solving ours.

Buckley didn’t fail: we’re failing.

ReturnOfBestGuest
ReturnOfBestGuest
4 months ago

““Spreadsheet capitalism” — the soulless belief that maximizing profits, efficiency, & GDP is the only goal – Chris Arnade”

Stina
Stina
4 months ago

In the 1980’s and into the 1990’s, to be on the Left meant opposing the corporatization of America. This was mostly a carryover from the economic radicals of the prior generation, but honest liberals worried about the power of global capital. They argued against liberalization of banking and the creation of massive financial institutions that were impossible to regulate. To be on the Right back then was to dismiss these concerns as vestiges of a bygone era. This explains my own slight Democrat leanings over the years where I never fit into the mainstream Right. Does this also track with… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
4 months ago

It’s another useless wish, a “we oughta” bloviation, but you know what would reform the government?

Civilian capitalism and government economy are two utterly different systems.
Therefore, hiring shouldn’t be the same either.

The reform?
Government jobs are only available to those who’ve served in the military. Veterans only.

Better those who earned their orientation in Patriot School than grandees, careerists, and opportunists primed and hired by Frankfurt School nepotism.

It limits the size of the political industry, plus it doesn’t depend on idiots hiring idiots.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

I know, I know.
But! The citizen militias WERE the only standing army in 1792. So gov’t jobs were still hiring only from the ranks.

bilejones
Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

One long life of parasitism.

The idea of limiting government jobs to demonstrated morons is already operative.

Vegetius
Vegetius
4 months ago

It is hard to imagine a whiter activity than recreational kayaking

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Vegetius
4 months ago

Yeah that, canoeing and white-water rafting are pretty damn white. Whites and Polynesians are the water people.

bilejones
Member
Reply to  Vegetius
4 months ago

Skiing tends to be long on honky’s

Vegetius
Vegetius
4 months ago

Destruction of media credibility may well be Trump’s greatest achievement, perhaps even more important in the long run than whatever sort of wall it is that he leaves behind.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Vegetius
4 months ago

True, but politics (and politicians) don’t lead the culture, they reflect it. The mainstream media has been dying for years, and Trump is giving it a bit of an extra shove.

That’s what is so funny about the Dem freakout over Bernie. Bernie didn’t bring hardcore socialism to the doorstep of the Dems. It was already there, and he just picked it up and ran with it.

Thurgood
Thurgood
4 months ago

The optics of mass culture are a matter of policy. The public did not acquiesce to any major social policy in living memory. All were acts of subversion or judicial fiat. The individuals responsible and the beneficiaries are matters of public record. Who is more impotent than the dissident who struggles against platonic forms instead of individuals and their institutions?

Dennis Roe
Dennis Roe
4 months ago

Big Jew Money degraded and corrupted this country, bringing it to its knees while we used our blood to fight their wars. These arrogant assholes don’t realize they crossed the Rubicon. Whitey woke the fuck up. Poking the hibernating Bear is a real bad idea, but they can’t help themselves. God dwells in the righteous, the pure of heart.

King Tut
King Tut
4 months ago

I clearly remember the 1990s when the political left was anti-globalisation and the political right was pro. Does anyone else recall all those violent “anarchist” marches and protests in major capitals all over the West? I do. They were hurling bricks through shop windows to protest against “global capitalism”.

25 years on and the sides have switched.

Walt
Walt
4 months ago

I used to think of myself as a bit Lefty during the mid to late 90s and early 2000s. I hated the Yugoslavian, Somali and Iraq misadventures. I felt they were embarrassing wars that the tax payer had been conned into paying for. I hated the power of corporations and government overreach. I didn’t care if there was a profit justification – the answer should have been no. I hated Bush Jnr, Cheney and Rumsfeld. I still do. I was anti-racist and pro-drug legalisation. I suddenly woke up to what was going on over the Trayvon nonsense. I noticed black… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Walt
4 months ago

“We would like to buy houses, send our kids to decent schools, speak freely and associate with who we please. Those basics are now basically taboo and the chickens are slowly coming home to roost.”

Epic. That’s The Program.

Tim from Nashua
Tim from Nashua
4 months ago

Reminder: Ramesh Ponnuru works for (((Bloomberg))).

Tim from Nashua
Tim from Nashua
4 months ago

On a spiritual level, everything is sped up, because the Devil knows his time is short. So those that play on the Devil’s team are pushing the Overton Window left. No longer satisfied to slouch towards Gomorrah, they are causing us to careen towards Gomorrah at break neck speed.