Drama In The Time Of Corona

First, I want to thank my family for being with me through all of this. I could not get through this without them. This has been a trying time for all of us. I’m here today to announce that I have tested positive for the coronavirus. I’m coming forward in the hope that I will continue to inspire people suffering from this horrible burden to keep bravely fighting and dreaming. I also hope this will help break the stigma white men have attached to this condition and the sufferers of it…

That is a little taste of what will no doubt be a feature of our lives in the coming week, as famous people take turns staring in their own corona drama. It has already started a bit, with people like Tom Hanks and others announcing they have tested COV-positive, but the flood gates will surely open once we run out of hoarding stories. You can be sure that musical performers are plotting some sort of corona-aid performance, perhaps done on-line, to draw attention to themselves.

We live in an age in which everything is a performance. Not just any performance, of course, but a morality tale. The “famous person making the dramatic announcement to the public” version is pretty common. Twenty years ago, famous homosexuals would have dramatic coming out ceremonies. Some would make a drama of announcing they got the AIDS. The point of the performance is for the actor to get both sympathy and admiration for being a heroic victim, bravely fighting on.

Our politicians got in on the act in a serious way back during the Exploding Mohammad pandemic of the last decade. Whenever a random Mohamed would detonate in a public place, the politicians would organize a public piety festival. They would lock arms and march around symbolizing unity. Maybe there would be a candlelight vigil. The candle makers really boomed in the exploding Mohamed times. The media would show a few cute white girls crying and hugging at the event.

Ceremony and ritual, of course, are essential elements of every human society, even the most primitive ones. The point is to reinforce and refresh the shared reality we call our common culture. Ceremony reminds us of the rules that define us as a people and the ritual ties us to the history that made those rules. The point of them, often the explicit point, is to strengthen the rules that not only bind the people to one another, but legitimize the social order and the people at the top of it.

Those dramatic arm-locking displays by politicians after a Mohamed exploded were about making sure no one questioned the people in charge and the logic of importing these exploding Mohameds. Similarly, the celebrity announcing that they are the victim of something, real or imaginary, is about social signaling. The celebrity is free-riding on some trend in order to bolster their status as a famous person. They are a good person and deserve to be rich, famous and influential.

We are seeing a version of this as local officials compete with one another to see who can impose the most outlandish conditions on people. First someone banned public events, which led to everyone doing it. Then it was public gatherings, even private ones, then the forced closure of retail establishments. Now you have this loon banning gun and alcohol sales. Not to be outdone, San Francisco is banning people from leaving their homes. The city’s bum population is exempted, of course.

The people doing this put on their best concern face and bravely march to the nearest bank of cameras to perform their serious act. You see, they really don’t want to do this and they regret having to make such a big deal of it. It’s just that events have forced them to bravely impose a huge cost on others so they can get some public adulation and the dopamine rush that comes from it. You haters out there snickering are just running dog lackeys of the coronavirus!

Of course, the reason we have a panic right now is the politicians have been influenced by the expert drama queens. These are the people who play experts on cable chat shows and internet sites. They come up with impressive looking claims about how this will be an unprecedented plague, not seen in human history. Never mind that these people have been wrong about everything in the past. We don’t have time for that. The world is at risk unless we act now! The crowd cheers and the curtain closes.

If the lunatics in charge do manage to pull the roof down on civilization this time, it will be a fitting final act to our Dionysian age. Politics is always about morality, but in a democracy, it is a never-ending morality play. The various actors appeal to our emotions, rather than our reason or even our self-interest. The winner is the one who gets the loudest applause. That always comes from wringing as much emotion from the crowd as possible. The good pol always leaves them in tears.

Compounding it, we live in an age of plenty. Well, we used to. The post-scarcity age removes the obvious reasons for having a ruling class. That means the people in charge, especially the petty tyrants of local government, must always find reasons to remind the public that they are still needed. That means manufacturing crisis and drama. Every change in the weather is now anthropomorphized. Light rains storm Harvey now requires schools to close and people to shelter in place.

That’s what we are seeing with the corona show. Public officials and their suddenly famous science people are performing their role in a live action role playing game called pandemic. Instead of having a paintball retreat, the ruling class is forcing the rest of us to skip work and hoard toilet paper. They get to feel like heroes, while the rest of us wonder if we will be standing in bread lines next month. Rest assured though; our nations actors will be okay. They are brave and concerned.

Part of what makes this work is that some portion of the public is willing to play the role of concern troll, the usher that tells members of the audience to behave. When someone points out the idiocy of a curfew in San Francisco, a city with tens of thousands of bums crapping in the streets, there is someone in the crowd to lecture him about the seriousness of the situation. Over the next weeks, everyone will be hectored by these idiots on social media and in their daily lives.

In the end, something that has been obvious for a long time, but is now becoming quite clear, is that this process ends with a real crisis. The final act leads to a real threat to society and the real need for competent leaders. If they do manage to crash the system this time, public tolerance for girl politicians suddenly drops to zero. Everyone suddenly figures out what things really cost and the price of the public drama queen makes them a prohibitive leisure item in a time of want.


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G Lordon Giddy
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G Lordon Giddy

Yesterday I had my trash pickup canceled for two weeks due to coronovirus. So a single guy driving a trash truck with a robot arm is gonna be in danger of the virus but meanwhile the shity bags of baby diapers pile up everywhere?
It’s clown world.
And Trump is making a huge mistake crashing the economy over this.
People will remember the lost jobs and stacks of trash not the small number of nursing home patients who died.
This is much less damaging than the swine flu in 2009 but apparently Trump is not good at math.

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

Th reality of the situation is that Obama handled the 2009 Swine Flu far better than Trump has handled this.

Hoagie
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Hoagie

The reality of the situation is the media didn’t say boo about the swine flu because Obama was their little black butt boy. They’ve been gunning for Trump as we all know and it wouldn’t matter how Trump handled this situation (and I think he handled it pretty well) they would concentrate their laser of Pravda on any shortcomings. When Trump limited travel from China at the start if this non-epidemic all the media lefties shouted “Racism, Xenophobia”! But he was right and the numbers show it. Any nation the strength and size of the US that fukin’ panics and… Read more »

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

Like it or not, fair or not, the fact is that people never stood in bread lines when Obama was President.

Feelings don’t care about your facts.

ProZNoV
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ProZNoV

………

Paintersforms
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Paintersforms

If Trump held the line, who would have his back? His weakness is our weakness.

It’s a man rolling his eyes and letting his hysterical wife have her way, again, writ society-large.

Compsci
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Compsci

Let’s not conflate Obama and Trump. Meme has a point, and the point need not be construed as Obama good, Trump bad. It is what it is. Had the MSM not had Obama’s back, he’d have been a one term President and if Trump had Obama’s MSM backing, he’d have not had to crater to the hysterics of the present “pandemic”.

FashGordon
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FashGordon

The MSM is NEVER going to be on our side. It’s owned by (((them))) and they want us dead, poor, our children raped and they think it’s funny. But trust in the MSM has never been lower and they are revealing their incompetence ever more frequently these days. Their decadence and unabashed nepotism has led to a regression towards the mean for their ilk. With a little bit of luck and a good deal of hard work, people like us can continue to chip away at their power until their dominance becomes nothing but a bad memory.

nailheadtom
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At one time journalism was a craft, like brick laying or plumbing, learned on the job under the direction and supervision of veterans of the field. At some point it became a “profession”, indoctrinated at places like the Columbia School of Journalism. It joined the ranks of psychology, criminology and other “social sciences”, rather than the rough and tumble world of recording the deeds, mostly nefarious, of the hoi polloi. It’s a great loss.

Exile
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Exile

-18 when I upvoted. Lotta priors on display around here. The MIGA train has apparently not left this station just yet.

It’s going to be a long war.

Lawdog
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Bread lines aren’t necessarily indicative of presidential incompetence. It’s more nuanced than that.

The media have engineered this ridiculous quarantine, and God knows that was imminent regardless of Trump’s actions.

The media *are* using the virus as a political expedient. That’s indisputable. A cabal of stupid cowards has engineered an economic depression for their political gain, and people are still bitching about Trump.

It’s an easy fix for you — Trump is like a root that, once plucked out, makes all the bad go away. But badness has roots like hydras have heads.

Dutch
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Dutch

Meme, I think people missed the sarc. Your last line is the clue.

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

Dutch; I think the regulars around here got it.

For you newbies: we exchange a lot of ideas around here in free and open discussion. We praise Trump when he does well, honestly criticize when he doesn’t.

If you want Trump cheerleading, go to the Breitbart comments section on Normiebook.

FashGordon
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FashGordon

I’m not so sure they did. How many would get the Shapiro reference, pretty esoteric to anyone over 35. Your point stands true though, the masses of idiots that make up john q. public are not very inquisitive and react to things much like a child would. They will blame Trump and he will probably lose because of all this. Is it fair? Is it logical? No, obviously not. But in our socially engineered, feminized, and dumbed down society the masses react to events emotionally far more often than logically. Heck, trump won based on emotional appeals, not logical ones.… Read more »

Yelloweish
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Yelloweish

“like or not, fair or not, you live in decaying society, deal with it white boy!”

deal with it yourself, if asking want to live in civilized society is too much

Bill_Mullins
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Might one be so bold as to inquire exactly WHERE people are standing in bread lines right now? Shortages of toilet paper and bottled water I’m aware of but bread lines? Where?!?! And a link (or links), sir, no vague hand waving bravo sierra. Exactly where in the U.S. of A. are people having to stand in bread lines AS A RESULT OF COVID-19?

I call bullshit! MemeWarVet is talking through his ass because his mouth fekking well KNOWS better!

Dutch
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Dutch

“We are at that point where perhaps as a nation we no longer deserve freedom and security”. Sadly, some are ruining it for the rest of us. As anyone in charge of a bunch of children will tell you, let the bad ones run rampant and it ruins things for everyone. As a nation, we have let the bad ones run rampant ever since we dismantled any demands and expectations for good behavior, decades ago. We now get to enjoy the results.

UFO
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UFO

Trump will be fine once this is over as long as he stays Trump.

Like now he’s calling it the Chinese virus and attacking all the lib politicians for their inaction. It will be so easy to point back to chuck and other dems saying its racist to close the borders 1 month ago.

Hes fine.

Compsci
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Compsci

UFO, I hope Trump survives this fiasco as well—but not because of the obvious reason. Rather it’s because everyday I fear more and more what comes after Trump. The other side—if we term it that—is showing such pathological aberration as to be terrifying. The present “pandemic” situation is just a taste of how quickly they can destroy the very fabric of society when given power.

The Wild Geese Howard
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The Wild Geese Howard

The media probably spent all of last weekend praying that Trump tested positive for Corona so they could launch their 25th Amendment crisis script. Just imagine that circus.

Compsci
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Compsci

Yeah, but that would have only been temporary—assuming Trump has rid himself of 5th column cabinet members.

AntiDem
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AntiDem

LOL this is why nobody takes the former alt-right seriously. Their morose, retarded, whiny blackpilling has caused them to become everything that they used to (rightly) mock, especially “The Conservative Case For [Some Pozzed Bullshit]”. In the past couple of weeks, I’ve been assailed by Hunter Wallace making the pro-white right case for electing open-borders Jewish socialist Bernie Sanders, then Richard Spencer making the case for Hillary Clinton, and now I have to hear the “alt-right” tell me how great Barack Obama was. Look, just please fuck off. We already live in Clown World – we don’t need any more… Read more »

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

Great job telling us what you’re against; how about what you’re for?

I’ll go first: The existence of our people and a future for White Children

abprosper
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abprosper

Technically in the US at least at current rates there is a future for White children. A great many will have blue or green eyes and all will be fair skinned. They’ll mostly be Amish though with a smattering of various other denominations. Just imagine it puppy mills from sea to shining sea Snark aside, “what do I want” is stage one.” next comes “how do I get it.” Right now there are too many incompatible ideologies out there and while “Pro White” is a good basis, its not enough for sea to shining sea This means either one ideology… Read more »

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

The Amish aren’t ready for the guys with scimitars. They’re quite comfortable in a pre-industrial world too, and there are more than 8000 mosques in our land now.

d. dicon
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d. dicon

we need a belief system that allows fellas to have a drink, a faithful lady, kids and a car, and burn down a mosque on occasion.
trad Catholics did burn down effigies of Jews and Saracens in festive days. monks made beer. so there’s a path. cannot promise many cars though…

AntiDem
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AntiDem

“I’m for the existence of our people and a future for White Children. Therefore, I’ll talk shit about the only political figure in 50 years who’s made even the slightest move in that direction, and talk up an open-borders black leftist who filled his administration with white-haters.”

Call me when the alt-right stops being retarded and self-destructive.

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

Imagine not understanding the damage that Trump’s incompetence has done and is doing to National Populism.

Remember how W discredited the NeoCons? That’s what Trump did to us. But we don’t have (((advantages))) to allow us to stick around.

d. dicon
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d. dicon

true, and yet before Trump there was what?
so point to Orban or others with a better track record in the same vein, but let’s not raise our enemies.
though yeah nice inverted Shapiro there.

Vegetius
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Vegetius

>when the alt-right stops being retarded and self-destructive.

Walt Jeffers
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Walt Jeffers

Wallace and the whiny bitches on FTN are accelerationists. Move the collapse to a quicker date by supporting some parts of the opposition. Let society collapse, but meanwhile they will retain Netflix, go to Disneyworld or rent a house on the redneck Riveria at Destin. The accelerationists are irrational children.

Some Guy
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Some Guy

I am amused that the alt right is now afflicted by TDS to every bit as laughable of a degree as the far left. The alt right now defends Harvey Weinstein and hopes the economy crashes in hopes of accelerationism that honestly very few whites would be ready for. They’re rebels without a clue in 2020, which is sad because they had some of the best ideas and high levels of energy 4-5 years ago.

Vegetius
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Vegetius

The scene is become kayfabe, I think.

greyenlightenment
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> hopes of accelerationism that honestly very few whites would be ready for.

as opposed to non-whites. Who do you think is buying prep and survivalist stuff?

Forever Templar
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Forever Templar

Preppers make up a very, very small minority of the “preparedly-minded” white population. The even smarter ones who don’t advertise it you’d never know they were prepping because they’d be instant targets if the grid went down.

Federalist
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Federalist

I don’t think that he’s talking about how great Obama was. Speaking for myself, it really shows how badly Trump is handling the corona panic when Obama, as terrible as he was in every way, actually did a better job.

Member

Why can’t certain white people acknowledge that Trump has folded like the Atlanta Falcons in Super Bowl LI?

Lorenzo
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Lorenzo

@Libertymike. Trump has done what’s possible under the circumstancess. He has to operate in the big, wide real world of opposition and compromise with pretty much the whole ruling class hating him and trying to sabotage anything he does.

What would you do? In that real world, I mean.

Member

Does he have to endorse the shut-down of the economy?

What does he have to lose given how the deep state and the government / media complex already loathe him and have been working to oust him from 9/9/16 onward?

If it were me, I would forcefully reject the doom and gloom. I also would fire Dr. Fouci.

Lorenzo
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Lorenzo

“If it were me, I would forcefully reject the doom and gloom. I also would fire Dr. Fouci.”

And what happens next?

Member

Joe and Mika would shriek.

Duh
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Duh

Obama was lucky that in that swine flu was “just the flu”. 11k vs 26-70k regular flu deaths and similar infection rate.

greyenlightenment
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but this is way worse though. swine flu killed just 1/5000. corona more like 1/100-1/200

BadThinker
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BadThinker

Im sorry, are there 10,000,000 deaths in China? Your death rate is BS.

Exile
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Exile

Federalist – exactly. The Red-Blue team whistles still seem to work on a lot of guys.

Federalist
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Federalist

Exile, did we end up in the comments section of breitbart.com or go back in time? Everybody gets their feelings hurt if Trump is criticized today. Are we still supposed to Trust The Plan?

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

Federalist – I think there’s a lot of new traffic here. Which is good, because we can expose these recent ex-Breitbartians to dissident thought.

But it also means we get some downvotes. As Greg Johnson says, “if you’re taking flak, it means you’re over the Target.”

Dutch
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Dutch

Obama didn’t have the press, er, trumping up the crisis, and then the crisis passed without major devastation. The first of those two things is not true today, and the second one will play out, however it does, shortly. Too soon to turn in your term papers on the subject.

d. dicon
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d. dicon

yeah and to be fair the wuhan virus seems heavier than the swine one (again, both chinese), but there won’t be even spanish flu levels of death i think. the amount of asymptomatic cases gives some relief, and the US deathrate may be in tens of thousands still. and of course, unlike other pandemics, this one seems limited to the elderly and already sick with something (diabetes, hypertension, immunodeficient ones which of course include a sizeable lgbtq portion – so this may be Godly wrath also). at any rate, we shall see how the thousands of spring breakers in Florida… Read more »

Exile
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Exile

“This is why no one takes your opinion seriously – fuck off” isn’t exactly good optics or white-pilling, AD.

There are 1000 better ways to respond to Meme and get the same point across, but being on the side of the Orange Optics-Cuck Angels means never having to say you’re sorry.

abprosper
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abprosper

The operative word is “former”. Any movement that allows Leftists like the tiki torch Nazis to march with them deserves all the opprobrium it gets.

It was nice to see growth but for the most part I’m glad to see the .Alt Right gone.

Pro White isn’t pro sane and no doubt there is a faction of Clown World that is just as pozzed and just as dyscivic that wants to turn the US into a nation wide San Fransisco.

Exile
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Exile

Ab, contra D’Souza, the “Dark Lord” and Shapiro, the Leftists at C-Ville were Antifa, not muh Nazis.

Most of those “tiki torch Nazis” are the only guys worth standing with when the anarchists and degenerates start punching. I’m glad I was with a some pagan-gang hardasses when we got stalked after Copenhagan Scandza rather than some respectable suit-and-tie-wearing irony bros.

abprosper
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abprosper

The issue is not the views of the people but the optics beyond the torches.

Do not under any circumstances use Roman salutes or any other NDSAP imagery where cameras can see it.

There is too much weight still attached to that imagery and we aren’t going to past that yet.

Pagan stuff is fine with me.

Also I’m not that big on playing in the streets. YMMV

d. dicon
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d. dicon

all the larping is nice for protection purposes, but then you just need suit and tie rosary wearers who can also pack heat and throw punches. then again, it would be nice to emphasize the traditional Euro pagan stories, and examples to be learned from them; heck, even something as basic Aesop’s fables could be used, since even those are being attacked and abandoned. this should be done as opposed to the black metal worshipper aesthetic, which normies barf at and only looks cool on the parades and street fistfights that the msm wants both extremes to worthlessly have, so… Read more »

PrimiPilis
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PrimiPilis

Obama didn’t face the same opposition as Trump — a nation’s entire cognitive, creative, corporate and political apparatus arrayed against him. Indeed, he was the realization of all their drives and desires; they had his back (Holder et al). Certainly, in all this since Jan ’17, there’s much I wish Trump had done differently. But we have to acknowledge the impact of what he faces.

PrimiPilus
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PrimiPilus

Oops .. I See Hoagie has already made my point …..

Member

All of what you write is true; nevertheless, that does not thereby compel Trump to cravenly capitulate to fear and panic.

It also doesn’t excuse his surrender.

Lorenzo
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Lorenzo

Again, what would you do and how do you thing it would play out?

Member

First, I would remind people that the Wuhan virus does not constitute a national emergency.

Second, I would not be looking to juice the economy with more debt.

Third, I would remind folks that it is a loser’s gambit to repose confidence, faith, and trust in public health experts.

Fourth, I would fire Dr. Fouci. That diminutive dago is sure enjoying his day in the sun.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

The national emergency was to cut through the red tape and bureaucratic blockades thrown up by opportunists and Dem/Cuck loyalists.

Emergency powers so the one guy trying to do his actual job can allow the docs and contagion trackers to do theirs.

A Bank Holiday* of sorts to keep the panic in Walmart and out of the hospital beds.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

*(Except that FDR used it to steal the cash. Treasury trucks physically looted the paper cash from every bank vault in America and toted it back to the Treasury in DC. A quiet Reset, that’s why mom and everyone couldn’t withdraw their savings. Nobody knows that, it didn’t come to light til the 2000s. Sigh. FDR then stole our gold in 1934. The Depression was no accident, it wasn’t because Americans were stupid or speculating wildly, we didn’t have E-trade. It was a deliberate Too Big To Fail for the 8 (((Families))) that literally own the Fed Reserve and its… Read more »

d. dicon
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d. dicon

FDR did need to inflate a bit, the problem was the method used. Hoover was wrong because of his deficit spending and not recognizing of credit bubble, however FDR was wrong also because he thought Depression could be solved with make-work, new public bodies (other than Social Security, labor board, and public works, most weren’t needed), and gold vacuumed out of the economy. which is why, after a short boost due to spending, later 30s in the US were full of hunger due to businesses not being able to invest and the extreme lessening of free trade (which had helped… Read more »

Lorenzo
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Lorenzo

That simple eh?

Tarstarkusz
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Tarstarkusz

AND they look it in a vacuum. It’s really easy to imagine the current circumstance and what you imagine the people who are not in charge would do if they were. They also forget the world of 2015/2016 and what probably would have happened if Trump hadn’t won. Without a doubt ISIS is still around, the Syrian Civil war is still going on or worse, Syria is lost and now we’re looking at a war with Iran. Black Lives Matter riots are still happening. of course, the media is covering everything up. Some people are just determined to OD on… Read more »

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Primi, they don’t realize Trump *is* the accelerationist.

As Lorenzo says, if you were one guy- even your daughter was used to attach a handler barnacle, that’s the deal- what would one do?

You’d overplay your hand so hard millions would begin to Notice,.

Notice so hard they begin to question the current arrangements, the men behind the curtain- something we never Noticed before.

It’s not what one Trump does, it’s what we do.

We are the tide that must turn.
Red/Blue doesn’t matter much anymore.

greyenlightenment
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except this is many magnitudes worse.

Chad Bigly
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Chad Bigly

You’re a moron.

d. dicon
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d. dicon

except that no one pressured Obama to do anything, they were just like oh wash your hands, put sanitizer in every building, and sure give out masks and check incoming Chinese, heck maybe even travel got delayed from there iirc and no one said a peep about racism against the swine flu.
also, there were less Chinese abroad infecting everything, Obama was just getting started with his “pivot to Asia”… which allowed among other things lack of essential medicine produced locally in the US, which may be sorely needed at least for some potential elderly Trump voters…

BadThinker
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BadThinker

“As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.”

Trump’s instincts, as is often the case, were spot on. Then he got *advice*.

To continue..

“And it shall come to pass, that instead of sweet smell there shall be stink; and instead of a girdle a rent; and instead of well set hair baldness; and instead of a stomacher a girding of sackcloth; and burning instead of beauty.”

MBlanc46
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MBlanc46

Whatever chance Trump had of pulling off another EC victory has just evaporated.

Dutch
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Dutch

No one can predict anything any more. For all we know, some submarine commander somewhere might be our next president.

AntiDem
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AntiDem

What are you talking about? Unless coronavirus kills half the country, Trump now gets to position himself as the man who saved the country from pandemic with swift, decisive leadership. Better still, the economy was overdue for a correction, and now he can blame it on coronavirus. In fact, by making the recession deep, Corona-chan almost certainly made it short too – a correction became an overcorrection, which means we’ll almost certainly be on the upswing by November.

All of which Trump knows, of course.

Dutch
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Dutch

AD, c-virus is a great out for the recession, and a lot of people get that clown world is out to get him. We’ll see how it plays, I have no idea how to handicap the election.

Normie
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Ok Boomer… go back to bb you moron

JZs
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JZs

Where are the civil libertarians?

M. B. Lamar
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M. B. Lamar

A campfire in the shelter of a fallen road sign, 2040. A father shares a squirrel on a stick with his son. Daddy? Yes, child? Tell me again about the Murka? Deep breath. Well, son, once there was a world where we all wanted for nothing…

Jay
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Jay

Please to continue the story Sahib. Tell us of the magic cola machines and the tubes over which shows were played, all the wonders

Juri
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Juri

Trump is good by draining swamp. What we now see, is the end of global world order. Draining the swamp is not firing some 3 ranking officials and building a wall what will be taken down by next president. Draining a swamp means that all the world order will be gone, with banks and institutions and some countries. Trick was very simple 1. Liberal does not think, it only hates. When Trump says yes, liberals take a bait and scream no. 2. Ignore flu 3.liberals will scream that we all getting killed 4.Take a measures and liberal own launched panic… Read more »

vmax71
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what would you proposed the POTUS have done differently than what he has done so far?

UFO
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UFO

Not sure whom to reply to here. But disappointed in this thread. But I thought we were all past the “red team blue team” phase. C’mon guys. Trump is a Zionist who sold out his platform and failed on immigration. He has some good points. Blue team is also Zionist and will also sell us out on immigration, but worse. Bla bla bla bla. The system is inherently anti-white, so any party coming from the system will be anti-white. Sure, vote team Red to give yourself some more breathing room but at the end of the day it doesn’t matter.… Read more »

Compsci
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Compsci

UFO, Again, you must define specifically, “failed on immigration”. That statement, interpreted at its broadest is categorically without merit. When you make such unsupported sweeping generalizations, you fail to persuade—if that’s your desire. If you want to vent, then you are doing a fine job. But such is little more than black pilling significant portions of the group. A realistic assessment of Trump is not in opposition to your goals stated in your last paragraphs. It is not a defacto recognition of Trump—or the political process, as a savior.

Exile
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Exile

Comp, I’d ask you to explain Trump’s “success on immigration,” but it would be a bad faith gotcha. You’re not going to convince me, and probably not many others who believe he’s failed, no matter what argument you make. Your opinion is no more objective or well-supported than ours. It’s a mix of opinion and fact, not some objective, scientific position. You can believe Orange Man OK and I can believe Orange Man Bad and there is no way to say short of hindsight who’s more right or wrong. It’s certainly not “categorical” in any sense. “My facts vs. your… Read more »

Exile
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Exile

UFO /threadwinner.

We don’t need to counter-signal guys who aren’t inside our particular inner circle. I’m neither responsible for or overly concerned with what the Nazis or Groypers are doing – I’m neither. It’s a topic for discussion but not for butt-hurt.

I’m looking for real change and real alternatives, not a slightly edgier version of the Bush years. We’re not going to get there by spending more time worrying about muh wignats than the GOP, much less the Dems and Bolshies.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

I’d say a dark Net cobbled together with old tech, but the big boys are eliminating 3g just as they did analog tv.

UpYours
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UpYours

Go back and join your mother ship.

Yves Vannes
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As asinine as some approaches may seem they still draw people in to our thing. Not everyone dances to the same tune nor finds themselves persuaded by the same arguments. Being on the same side doesn’t mean we have to be on the same page. That would make taking us out that much easier. We need a multi-pronged approach. We don’t have to put up with the ADL bringing in IDF flag wavers, but short of that we can let people who have shown commitment and risked their backsides the opportunity to try to find a place for themselves in… Read more »

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

First, we must Notice.
Notice the Left’s implacable malevolence.
That Trump can do, draw our attention.

He will go, yet here we stay.

Member

This is a point that I wish more people here would think about. The best reason to support Trump is that we are not ready yet. We need at least the skeleton of the new institutions in place that will replace the current order. These things are being built but having Trump in place for another 4 years could give nascent organizations and legal approaches time to mature. Things will not be so easy with Comrade Bernie or Crazy Joe. These men are themselves insubstantial but they have accumulated a vast army of anti-white and really just anti-civilization haters around… Read more »

AntiDem
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AntiDem

Re: San Francisco. The elites there know that filthy drug addicts and human shit in the street is a huge vector for the spread of disease. Faced with that fact, they have two options. One is, finally do something about the epidemic of filthy bums shitting in the street. The other is, continue to let the bums roam free, and make normal, productive people prisoners in their own homes instead.

You saw what they chose. It will not be a one-off decision limited to a single city.

Sandmich
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Sandmich

Like Ohio where they locked the place up but nary a peep from the resettling of a hundred or so diseased refugees into the state over the same period; I admit to being on the fence about this until I heard that (though yes, I wonder why I had any doubts now).

Meanwhile everyone who works at a bar or restaurant is going to have to live off ramen noodles for a month, or at least they would if there were any to buy.

HomerB
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HomerB

Look, this trajectory has already been playing out for YEARS in the NYC suburb I reside in. It works like this: town is run by a “sanctuary” mayor. He benefits because he was a bum that could not hold a real job, until he found his “calling” in politics. His local slum lord buddies benefit since they get to rent out their zoned single family dwellings to a dozen or more illegals. The same mayor, a criminal bum, gets voted into office repeatedly by a tiny number of voters. Many of those he afflicts in the adjacent township cannot vote… Read more »

SamlAdams
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SamlAdams

Bramson is a first class assclown and typical of an over-educated class that has never held a real job outside of think tanks. Earned his ire at one of the County Executive debates by loudly saying “bullshit” when he went on one of his gun control rants. Knew several guys on the FD there who were instructors up in Valhalla that have to deal with the inevitable fires in those rabbit warren subdivides. Meanwhile-we as neighbors get the benefit of all th e petty crime that comes over the border. But…hey…it’s all worth it for some vibrant tacos.

HomerB
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HomerB

Ok, ding-ding-ding. We can take one name off the board. I was not speaking of New Rochelle Mayor Noam Bramson, although I am sure he is a world-beater as a leader, What being married to a lady with the surname of Stern (instead of, ay “Bramson”), being a Harvard grad and all.

SamlAdams
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SamlAdams

Damn, but you had Noam nailed to a T–particularly the courts. And the muni judge who’s been banging the current married County Exec for years.

joe
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joe

If this virus scare ends globalization, it’ll be well worth it – even if some asses go unwiped and meals skipped

Member

For fear of being accused of being a naive white piller I will say that this thing opens up a door to getting people to think about questioning globalization itself rather than just individual affronts to national sovereignty such as migrant labor, offshoring production, etc… The alternative seems to be to wait this panic out – and wait for the next one…You will never hear such talk in the media. It’s up to us to nudge people in this direction – “hey maybe this thing is teaching us to shorten supply lines and contract circles of trust and commerce to… Read more »

JustaProle
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JustaProle

Perhaps the ruling class senses the urgency… Denmark’s parliament on Thursday night unanimously passed an emergency coronavirus law which gives health authorities powers to force testing, treatment and quarantine with the backing of the police. Now the precedent has been set and any medical emergency will present more authoritarian power. Not just forcing quarantine but now shots and testing. Whether or not you believe in the efficacy of a vaccine for a virus that is barely understood, we can all agree with “My body, My Choice”. Right???

M. B. Lamar
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M. B. Lamar

PCR testing is not all that accurate. Antivirals are nasty. But these complications will show up in the data as severe symptoms, justifying further tyranny, not the medical error of dosing up an otherwise healthy individual by force.

Drake
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Drake

PCR testing is not all that accurate? Citations?

Major labs measure defects such as false results in DPMO (defects per million opportunities). DPMO above the single digit range is usually considered unacceptable.

M. B. Lamar
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M. B. Lamar

I’m not a debater nor am I a geneticist. This came from a county level training document. It’s not the technology, which is well established, so much as the current environment in which collections and testing will be conducted, that concerns me. I’m an old fart. I remember when the Swine Flu vaccine killed more people than Swine Flu ever did. I have trust issues when it comes to the least competent workforce imposing their work on your only body. Limitations of PCR Testing  PCR testing alone may be limited as a diagnostic tool o Still need culture for… Read more »

Drake
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Drake

Most of those are human errors – bad sampling and handling.

Outdoorspro
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Outdoorspro

I work with PCR lab tests daily. Most of those potential reasons for error are the same as any other type of lab test. Good pre-analytical collection, transport and storage techniques will do a lot to prevent errors.

As for cultures…there aren’t many labs in the US that do viral cultures. Susceptibility testing is usually for bacteria, which can have varying degrees of antibiotic resistance.

TomA
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TomA

Yes, it’s almost Jackboot time. Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot etc. did not directly kill tens of millions of innocents. They all needed a Jackboot Corp to lay the wood. And every corp was made up of regular Joes just doing their job.

Calsdad
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Calsdad

If that sort of thing starts happening here – we ought to take that “Our bodies our choice!!” chant – and use it….. verbatim. If the lefties complain – they shove it right up their ass by telling them that their refusal to birth the next generation has “societal consequences” just as severe as being the one guy who refuses to take a vaccine.

This could turn into (yet another) epic opportunity to take the left’s political positions – and make them choke on it.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Trust the vaccine.
Why the fudge do you think they’re trying so very damn hard to push this one, or the next?

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

1. Poison the First (white) World, where the vaccination networks exist.
Guyana Koolaid in a shot.

2. Starvation will do for the rest.

3. Rule, now, the depopulated world.
You’ve saved the planet- for yourselves.

A resurrected People, masters of a perfected world, with no war, want, or worry.
Jerusalem is the eternal capitol in the new-come Kingdom chosen by Heaven.

Ever read prophecy?
What, you thought they were talking to you, filthy animals, risen apes?

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

RE: Concern Trolls – I’ve decided to take a two week moratorium from tangling with them…the average person will be much more open to our arguments when April dawns and they have to figure out how to make rent.

Chaz Chazstein
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Chaz Chazstein

I’m stuck in the mentawai islands on a surf trip so drama indeed. Best of luck to all the dissidents out there!

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Your life is hell. Feelin’ for ya, brah.

May someday the descendants of the Divine Lord Chaz sail out in their war canoes to explore and conquer the Lost World!

Forever Templar
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Forever Templar

Ha! Sounds real bad for you, dude. In all seriousness, be careful out there, man.

Karl Horst (Germany)
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Karl Horst (Germany)

France just shut their borders effective 12.00 today. No one is allowed out of their homes for the next 15-days without permission.Anyone caught outside will be fined. Austria has a similar program. The EU Counsel, for lack of their own ideas, is jumping on the French bandwagon, and will probably impose similar draconian restrictions on the rest of the EU in a few days. Meanwhile in Switzerland, schools have closed and people are being asked to work “home office”. And because little Gabriel gets easily bored sitting around the house, families are taking their kids out shopping to the local… Read more »

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Yours papers, please.
Do you have permission to be out working today?

Karl Horst (Germany)
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Karl Horst (Germany)

If Macron hadn’t actually used the expression “we are at war’ the French might have had a chance. But like everything else the French do, it’s too little and too late. I wonder if they’re already having their factories in Algeria making microscopic little white flags so they can wave them at the virus?

Karl Horst (Germany)
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Karl Horst (Germany)

If you haven’t already seen this map from Johns Hopkins it’s very interesting. I love how America is really on top of all this –

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

Meanwhile the French are having Smurf rallies. You can’t make this stuff up.

http://www.rfi.fr/en/france/20200311-french-mayor-defends-smurf-rally-after-outcry-over-coronavirus-landerneau-italy-criticism-dangerous

Compsci
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Compsci

Karl, no fan of France, but you must take it a bit easy on the “cheese eating surrender monkeys” allusions. In WWII, you guys kicked their ass pretty hard and pretty quick. I believe in 3-4 weeks they were pushing half a million casualties. There really wasn’t much spirit left in the country after WWI to fight in yet another major war—and for no particular reason (Poland?).

3g4me
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3g4me

“There really wasn’t much spirit left in the country after WWI to fight in ye another major war . . . ” Helped along mightily by the (((communists))) in all the factories that worked tirelessly to further demoralize people. Looking back, I’m surprised how much my grad school prof openly admitted the makeup of the Comintern and where it concentrated its operations.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Look at the massive union riots in 37-38 and during the second War. Suffering be damned, they were going to seize power any way they could.

Member

This is all welcomed by our rulers so they can usher in war time measures. Citizens surrender their liberties during wartime so it’s 9-11 all over again. Freaking mayors implementing firearms bans, alcohol etc. Do they even have that power?

They have been waiting, look at what that commie DeBlasio is proposing. Members of my family are being hurt financially with forced business closings and restrictions.

Judge Smails
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Judge Smails

Have any of these “leaders” contemplated the complex system involved to get something as mundane as a can of pinto beans on the shelf of every grocery store in a country the size of America? Multiply that by the thousands of individual products in typical large store. What will be the ramifications of intentionally imploding the world economy and potentially impoverishing hundreds of millions of people in less than a year?

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

Hey wait, I thought the things you just described only happen to “socialist” countries!

Member

Trust me, these asshats want to make us Venezuela.

Drake
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Drake

Look at the Dem candidates, both millionaires who never successfully worked a regular job in their lives. Same true for all the next tier dropouts except Bloomberg.

ChetRollins
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ChetRollins

Found it interesting almost everyone at the engineering firm I work at, universally, thinks this is overblown and ridiculous. That didn’t stop the powers that be to more or less mandate working from home, probably more from fear of not being on the bandwagon and liability than anything. The people working in health care in the city I know are treating this like the black death, while the rural health care workers think the hysteria is absolute madness. Also noticing we’re reaching hysteria levels that questioning the narrative will cause people to take it as a personal attack, and browbeat… Read more »

Dutch
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Dutch

“Awaiting further instructions”. Yup. That’s what fellow travelers of the totalitarians do, in order to receive their next ration of stale bread.

KGB
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KGB

And that’s just it. Even a minimal amount of deaths — already in the can — will provide the political/media class with enough plausible deniability. “Think how much worse it would have been if we hadn’t ginned up a panic and stomped all over your rights!” They’ll never admit they made a mistake. Quite the opposite.

Compsci
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Compsci

What’s the adage…The disease is exaggerated to make the cure appear more miraculous? As noted, a lot of these medical folk are in their milieu believing they are fighting heroically against the end of civilization. Beats lancing abscesses on folk’s butts.

The Right Doctor
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The Right Doctor

Funny – I just lanced an abscess on a butt. That’s because life goes on. My clinic is running about normal volume. This week I’m working in Nor Cal in a county which has asked everyone to stay home, but here they are, with the usual mix of maladies and complaints. No hysteria in our clinics (I’m medical director for a group with a dozen sites). To address your point: yes, some people would rather be dictating to the masses under the guise of Enlightened Knowledge and It’s For Your Own Good. I’d rather help the patient in front of… Read more »

ProUSA
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ProUSA

I’m fed up with self appointed heroes who love any and all crises. Happiness is living alone in the Yukon Territory and knowing how to survive it. I’m banned from sites just for telling them how they are doing great damage to the economy and freedom by all their fear mongering.

Yves Vannes
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Yves Vannes

Quarantining people at this point (2 months too late) is like drawing a line inside a petri dish. Densely packed cities like SF, NYC, etc have entire neighborhoods that are full of SROs, shelters, community feedlots, free clinics, and on and on that are a daily battleground in fighting a long list of diseases. Some diseases have not been seen for so long in the West that we don’t even have Latin names for them. Covid-19 is simply another foot or two above the waterline for these viral icebergs. Leaving an animal in its stall day after day doesn’t result… Read more »

Mark Stoval
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Mark Stoval

Look fella, I am pretty sure that you are not allowed to pack that much truth in so short a comment. You will be hearing a knock at your door …

Dave
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Dave

Chickens have amazing immune systems. Mine live in absolute filth and on rare occasions, one drops dead. Not so with rabbits — a germ got into my hutches, wasted their muscles, and killed them all. That would explain why grocery stores sell lots of chicken and no rabbit.

Compsci
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Compsci

Chickens—ha, they have nothing on buzzards. Only thing that kills them are man—with bullet lead, poisoned coyotes, and by my house cars.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

I have an old newspaper ad insert from LA in the 60s.

The Safeway ad has rabbit, I think 15c a pound.

Dutch
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Dutch

Like the increasing gyrations of the stock market, the societal gyrations of late get wider and more frequent (the “widening gyre”). It will lead to arrests and violence. The madness needs to burn itself out. Go on a long hike or a surfing trip (Chaz you lucky dog) and let it do what it will do. We are only witnesses to it all, and don’t need to be players (sometimes winning is not playing). Stay clear, stay safe, and look out for your own.

BadThinker
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BadThinker

Where are the poets in our age. I need to spend more time reading the great English poets. We’ve lost something great in our rush toward modernity.

Yves Vannes
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Yves Vannes

Robinson Jeffers is as good as any place to start. Be Angry At The Sun Robinson Jeffers That public men publish falsehoods Is nothing new. That America must accept Like the historical republics corruption and empire Has been known for years. Be angry at the sun for setting If these things anger you. Watch the wheel slope and turn, They are all bound on the wheel, these people, those warriors. This republic, Europe, Asia. Observe them gesticulating, Observe them going down. The gang serves lies, the passionate Man plays his part; the cold passion for truth Hunts in no pack.… Read more »

Compsci
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Compsci

May I suggest, “Horatius at the Bridge”:

https://www.bartleby.com/360/7/158.html

BadThinker
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BadThinker

It’s a fine poem. I was hoping that we still had some poets of our age. Maybe poetry is a young civilization’s pasttime..

To every man upon this earth
Death cometh soon or late.
And how can man die better
Than facing fearful odds
For the ashes of his fathers
And the temples of his gods.

Compsci
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Compsci

I believe such a decline goes hand in hand with a general cognitive and educational decline in our industrial society. Every time I read one of the earlier works from British poets, historians, philosophers, and such, I can’t help but think about Ken Burns and his Civil War documentary on PBS. The letters home written by simple school boys—now soldiers—of the time are nothing if not striking.

Lawdog
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Poetry requires paucity of speech and quiet contemplation. So much of the modern world stands antithetical to that.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

The murky origins of Corona-chan are routine skulduggery, the kind of high level treachery and incompetence that we’re not supposed to notice. The media jumped on this with both feet. Nothing else has stuck, they’re determined to cast blame. The heroes versus the haters. Big bonus: this is their chance for revenge on the bad people. They’re flexing their power, they are going to show who’s boss. They can shut down the American and the world economy. That is the power of storytelling. The pols are drooling at a piece of the gravy train, the weasels are covering their azz.… Read more »

UFO
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UFO

So, the border closed just like that. Something we’ve been calling for for years.

More proof that white genocide is real. Those traitors are using open borders to displace us – it’s not some vague and natural process the way it’s described in the NYT.

Maus
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Maus

I had forgotten that San Fecescrisco had joined the list of failed “chocolate” cities led by a numinous black mayor. But then this idiot with her decree that amounts to house arrest reminded me. The city that celebrates sodomy deserves it; so F**K them. Still only 1 confirmed case of Wuflu in my city of 100,000. This has been either a massively stupid overreaction or a malevolent flexing of authoritarian muscle. Either way, democracy good and hard.

MBlanc46
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MBlanc46

“Everyone suddenly figures out…” I simply can’t imagine that happening.

G Lordon Giddy
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G Lordon Giddy

In defense of Trump he was going to get attacked hard by the media if he done the reasonable on this virus thing. They would pin every death on Trump.
They are not doing that as well with his aggressive stance.
But it’s a trial run for what totalitarianism brings to us.
And it happened under Trump not Crazie Bernie or Biden.
God help us when the next “virus” attacks and we have the left in charge.

Member

So, when you are in camp, will it comfort you that Trump “was going to get attacked hard by the media” if he didn’t capitulate?

Anon
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Anon

“Now you have (((this loon))) banning gun and alcohol sales”
They make it too easy.

Compsci
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Compsci

Wonder if they will gin up an infected/sick “oldster” who climbs up in a tower to take revenge on the world with his AR-15 “assault weapon”. Na, they wouldn’t do that, would they? 😉

Mencken Libertarian
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Compsci
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Compsci

The drug found to be effective seems to be touted on the local news. Word is out if it’s this local.

TorontoTraveller
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TorontoTraveller

Related topic: My reply to Steve Sailer pushing the “skiers vs. golfers” narrative with the view that the weather is a key factor: “C’mon Steve. You are supposed to be the Occam’s Razor guy. The reason for the high transmission rate among skiers is dependent upon location and demographics at those locations. There is a huge concentration of Han Chinese in northern Italy and in addition to having been imported to take over the manufacturing operations of luxury handbags, they are also working in the back-rooms of restaurants at the ski resorts in the Italian alps. If Myrtle Beach or… Read more »

Member

Somebody at VDare really needs to take Sailer aside and tell him to give the hysterical bulls**t a rest. He’s making the entire site unreadable. I’m this close to giving up on them and I’ve actually been donating to them these past two years.

greyenlightenment
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wow …that skiing article was bad. Steve is just pulling stuff out of his butt.

Tarstarkusz
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Tarstarkusz

People have said the 2008 meltdown was a “Blackberry crisis,” enabled by the instant communications at all places and time because of the Blackberry they all carried. Always on high speed internet in the phone is a fairly new technology and I really wonder to what degree this has contributed to the panics that seem to spread through society today. Every weather event has become a public spectacle. Hurricane forecasts cause panic buying and emptying out of cities. Even minor events become worldwide headlines. Even before the virus was in America, it absolutely dominated the headlines. It was the major… Read more »

Al from da Nort
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Al from da Nort

Tars; Blaming the Blackberrys for 2008’s crash is like blaming the barometer for the hurricane. ’08 was an insanely over-leveraged financial collapse begun by Bush II buying Hispanic votes in the ’04 election with houses the Hispanics couldn’t possibly afford. S&L’s obliged by writing Hispanics and others so-called NINJA mortgages (no income, not job, no assets = good credit, all of a sudden). Typically, these were interest only loans with 3 year balloons (whole principal comes due) or 3 year ARMS (adjustable rate mortgages) where the interest rate (hence payment) snaps up to market rates after a ‘teaser rate’ expires.… Read more »

Tarstarkusz
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Tarstarkusz

I think it was probably a combination. I remember at the time people like Peter Schiff were saying that the second and third shoes were about to drop during the panic. They droned on and on about all the bad commercial RE and how that shoe would drop in 2010 and that around the same time there were a ton of mortgages with ARM resets around the same time frame. Those shoes never dropped for whatever reason. But whatever the case may be about the 08 crisis, I really don’t think there is much denying that everything is blown out… Read more »

Member

In the past decade, Fines has been a bigger line item on Wells Fargo’s Income Statement than Interest Paid on its checking and savings accounts.
The whole industry is one large criminal gang, kept afloat only by laundering billions of drug money .

Stranger in a strange land
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Stranger in a strange land

‘….Of course, the reason we have a panic right now is the politicians have been influenced by the expert drama queens…’ Exhibit 1 and the smoking gun (at least it was for me): recall the floor show in 2018 starring ‘Dr’. Blasey Ford in the role of drama queen vs. evil white man Kavanaugh. That the grown ups in the audience actually took it seriously appeared to be the acme of farcical theater – that was until a pubescent teenager from Denmark more recently scolded the entire world and thus the drama bar was raised ever higher. …’Everyone suddenly figures… Read more »

Dutch
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Dutch

The volume has been turned up to eleven for some years now. They just found a way to get it to twelve. If twelve doesn’t do the trick, thirteen will need to be engineered.

UFO
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UFO

Blasey Ford is just an advocate for the abortion pill industry who was desperately trying to prevent pro-life people from joining the Supreme Court. It’s the pharmaceutical-industrial complex. I would imagine that Ms. Ford has tested many of those products on her own body, too.

TomA
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TomA

Yes, Yes, a thousand times Yes. Idiocracy is the real plague that afflicts us. The marching morons are running the asylum and it is insanity that is spreading at an exponential rate, not the flu. Now what comes next? Do we muddle through once again (and defer the healing collapse), or finally hit a high bottom and choose to man-up? Public spectacle whining is now performance art on steroids. Please God, give them something seriously real to whine about.

Barnard
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Barnard

Right on cue Katie Hill is claiming to be infected, even though she hasn’t been tested yet. She has a six degrees of separation story about coming in contact with a person who was in contact with an infected person. This is going to become very common the longer this event drags out. People like this are going to claim being a “survivor” grants them some sort of moral authority.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/16/katie-hill-claim-coronavirus/

sirlancelot
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sirlancelot

It’s funny how some of the more educated are buying into this nonsense. When you tell them the numbers don’t add up they change the subject quickly . I think you’re right . They just want to be scared.

P,S. was watching a two-week-old nutnfancy video. He predicted all of this nonsense. He’s a little tough to watch I know , but believe his thinking is sound.

Lorenzo
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Lorenzo

Thanks for the Gabriel García Márquez allusion.

King Tut
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King Tut

Visions of bread lines have crossed my mind too. I am not sufficiently confident to say that it won’t happen.

Still, I may finally get my cholesterol levels down to double figures. So, every cloud….

Mark Stoval
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Mark Stoval

I have no clue when or if this madness ends, but I am astonished that the press and the left were able to make a worldwide crisis out of a virus that gives most people a mild case of the flu or perhaps more like a cold. A few old folks might die of cronovirus rather than the seasonal flu — and what of it?

God Damn, humans are stupid.

Compsci
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Compsci

Which is why universal suffrage is stupid.

Mark Stoval
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Mark Stoval

I agree on universal suffrage but would go further and say that democracy is really, really stupid.

Compsci
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Compsci

We’d need to tighten up democracy definition here. As opposed to an evil despot, would that be stupid. Of course not. Trick in my thinking is to avoid the extremes. We are now at an extreme, i.e., everyone votes, and their votes count equally. Since the uninformed and stupid outnumber the informed and smarter folk….And that’s not even taking into account human frailty, and greed.

Mark Stoval
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Mark Stoval

Diamond Princess Mysteries
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/03/16/diamond-princess-mysteries/

The best and most honest analysis I have read anyplace. If you really want some truth today, click on that link.

“OK, here are my questions. We had a perfect petri-dish coronavirus disease (COVID-19) experiment with the cruise ship “Diamond Princess”. That’s the cruise ship that ended up in quarantine for a number of weeks after a number of people tested positive for the coronavirus. I got to wondering what the outcome of the experiment was.”

OK, will you hysterical ones read this? Or do you love your delusion this nothing burger is dangerous?

UpYours
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UpYours

Why don’t you get yourself injected with the Kung Flu virus and let us know how it is? After all, it is just the common cold or flu right?

Member

S&P 500 has fallen 30% in the last month. Question for those who think the country is ruled by Wall Street (I don’t necessarily disagree). Why are Wall Street, elite investors, the rich, etc. allowing themselves to be crushed and frightened right now?

Compsci
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Compsci

They are not crushed. Those folks have hedge funds, shorts and puts and other techniques to withstand/mitigate these downturns. Indeed, they have piles of cash to reinvest after driving the overall markets down. The “wealth” of the market is not lost, it simply changed pockets—yours to theirs.

BadThinker
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BadThinker

Exactly. The hedge funds, banks, and brokerages all had their algos sell long ago, and the 401k holders are left holding the bag. It’s a giant wealth transfer from the working & middle classes to the wealthy.

Member

“The hedge funds, banks, and brokerages all had their algos sell long ago…” They are still heavily invested.

Compsci
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Compsci

I would note, one person selling entails another buying. Someone will lose in this situation, and another will gain.

BadThinker
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BadThinker

I was being a bit flippant. The goal is to scare mom and pop with a 401k to sell at a big loss, much like in prior events.

“Potter’s not Selling, Potter’s Buying!”

ReturnOfBestGuest
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ReturnOfBestGuest

That’s pretty much the definition of “financialization” in our world of (not)QE, Repo Markets, and Stock Buybacks. Both parties ran on re-instituting Glass-Seagall in 2016. Did you ever hear another peep about it? Of course not. The meltdown that manifested in 2008 hurt many people, but Wall St., the Banksters, the “Regulators,” are all richer than ever. https://tinyurl.com/yd77d7lt

greyenlightenment
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Because elites also compete against each other. some elites bet market will crash. others think the opposite. wall s.t is just a marketplace .

Stranger in a strange land
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Stranger in a strange land

…or a casino (with a croupier who can make the little ball land where he wants it to)

ReturnOfBestGuest
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ReturnOfBestGuest

It is a Casino. And the House always wins. We’re just the marks. I wish there were some way to get people to take an interest in policy, but it’s all personality cults now.

Ben the Layabout
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Ben the Layabout

And no one mentioned the “emergency operations” or whatever they call it this time: the Fed “providing liquidity” to commercial paper or what-have-you, in other words, to continue privatizing the profit and socializing the risk.

Mikep
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Mikep

It really is quite remarkable how easily our rulers took the decision to flush the economy down the toilet for the sake of some octogenarians, diabetics and persistent heavy smokers. It’s almost as if the Angel of Christian Charity had descended among them with his little bow and arrow to pierce their scaly hides and melt their cold reptilian hearts. On the other hand the economy wasn’t looking too hot, Uncle Sam hasn’t defaulted since 1971 and the unfunded liabilities and irredeemable debts had been building up to the tune of countless trillions of dollars. Maybe someone decided it was… Read more »

Compsci
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Compsci

Clown world breaking news. File under “irony”. President news conference on radio now. VP or someone is asking the public to go to their hospitals and donate their M-95 respirator masks as our medical personnel have a shortage and need them. President or somebody is currently meeting with large construction firms to open their warehouses and donate their stores of M-95 respirator masks.

What’s the irony? Until today, the public has been told repeatedly that these masks were ineffective and need not be bought or hoarded. 🙁

Federalist
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Federalist

Further irony is that M-95 masks are made in China. Maybe transferring our manufacturing capabilities to China wasn’t such a good idea after all. Oops.

ReturnOfBestGuest
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ReturnOfBestGuest

What isn’t made in China? (BTW: Who voted for that? It became policy, though. Who promoted it?) The slave-labor, cheap-goods, model has been very, very, good to the shareholder class. And devastating to others on both sides of the political divide (and oceans.)

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It’s far worse than masks. Try 97% of Antibiotics.

https://principia-scientific.org/97-of-antibiotics-are-made-in-china-supply-chain-armageddon/

This is something else (Borders being another) that Trump is right on.
Throughout the whole debacle, the populists are being proven right and the GloboHomos wrong, hence the screeching.

In the UK Brexit’s upcoming negation of the Schengen no-borders pacts looks smarter with each passing day.

abprosper
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abprosper

They are ineffective in the hands of people who aren’t trained to use them and don’t have eye protection.

Had the CDC simply said this most of the problems could have been avoided.

However communications skills seem to be lacking in clown world.

Compsci
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Compsci

If you are suspected as ill, they work just fine to keep such to yourself.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Surgeons put the mask on their own face, not the patient’s. Why?

To keep the surgeon’s breath from infecting the opened patient.

Compsci
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Clown world breaking news #2. Presidential news conference. CDC folk now discussing who is really under risk and identifying in particular “oldsters”. Asking now that old folk in particular self quarantine. They are now promoting “oldsters only” shopping hours at stores! Asking healthy young folk to aid oldsters in their quarantine situation, while down playing their risk (younger folk). So, as you heard here—but obviously Trump doesn’t read—they are getting ready to revamp the quarantine and restart the economy, albeit Trump reiterated the 14 quarantine for all policy. Can the genie be put back into the bottle?

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ReturnOfBestGuest

One of our chains has “early shopping” hours for pensioners. Given the behavior I’ve seen on the news, it will at least spare them jostling and rudeness. I’m in favor.

Compsci
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Compsci

Clown world update #3. Announced a $800B dollars stimulus package for economy—$500B sending checks directly to the people, $250B for lost business deductions, $50B for some other crap—business loans I think—sorry, short term memory problems. Now just imagine, less than a month ago, *None of this was necessary!*, then the politicians got into the act. First they yelled about pandemic and nothing being done. Then $2B+ to the CDC was not enough. Then $9B+ was not enough. Then a State of Emergency declared and mandatory quarantine (various degrees thereof) followed by a shutdown of the economy and economic collapse. Now… Read more »

Dutch
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Dutch

Forget it Jake, it’s government-town.

Stranger in a strange land
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Stranger in a strange land

Given the allusion to the movie – that is a brilliantly succinct summariztion.

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[Every single government official]: But things would have been so much worse if we hadn’t done those things!

Doctor: “Yes, sir, we understand that you are unhappy about being a head in a jar, but we couldn’t find any other way to cure your chronic eczema.”
Patient: “My nose itches.”
Doctor: “Hmm….”

Exile
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Exile

Faceberg, Insty and the other socials are free self-publishing kits for your life-as-narrative. The morality play is a favorite frame for the Story of Me. Faceberg’s leaking insiders admit they designed Facebook to induce drama addiction – the very same coked-out-hamster dopamine sink they warned us of in those ancient Just Say No classes. Hollywood has metastetized. All of America is Hollywood now, suburban cam-thots, virtue-signalling soy-boys and outright cos-players, performing 24/7 nationwide to an audience of 7 billion. For role-playing afficianados, try Twitter, where you can practice your poses and refine your script a sound-bite at a time. Our… Read more »

Karl Horst
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Karl Horst

Predictions of the social effects of COVID-19 – 1.) Virtual work will increase, causing feelings of isolation for workers who may require psychological assistance later on. 2.) Telemedicine will increase. 3.) Health provides will be overwhelmed, existing inefficiencies will make matters worse 4.) More draconian government control over the population 5.) Healthcare programs will not meet projected expectations for service and data protection 6.) Large media will become a major healthcare adviser able to generate revenue by addressing public healthcare needs 7.) People will return to old habits of poor hygiene after this crisis subsides, relapse is inevitable. 8.) Boom… Read more »

Exile
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Exile

Judging from some of the comments, Plan Trusters seem to have settled on their own form of accelerationism – “Let’s DOTR the wignats and normie our way to power.” It’s easier to say “we can all work on different strategies toward a common goal” than it is to live it. Since it’s big today to talk about the worst failings of the alt-Right, let’s not forget that old favorite, purity spiraling. The “vote our way out of this” crowd has decided that we revanchist wignats are what’s really holding The Movement back. If you want to put all of your… Read more »

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And in other good news
“Mexico considering closing its Northern Border.”

“https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/03/14/xenophobic-mexico-reportedly-considering-closing-its-border-to-keep-out-americans-with-coronavirus/”

Couldn’t make this shit up could you?

This virus carries a lot of good news for The Orange Man, as well as the bad.

JR Wirth
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JR Wirth

We damn well will have a real crisis from this. These nutballs are throwing around edicts, performing trillion dollar bailouts to pay for them (literally) and even a clown on the Fed, Neel Kashkari (Goldman bag man and third world shit bag with American citizenship) saying that negative interest rates are on the table, which would destroy the dollar as a reserve currency, only points to one thing; This country is just one big RV park in search of a tornado. Don’t count on any currently issued bonds to retain their value in the coming years. Stay the hell out… Read more »

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I believe you win the internets today.

Jack Dobson
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Jack Dobson

The negative interest rates are how to get at those invested outside securities. It will work, too, and make cash hording a lose-lose situation. This is for all the marbles.

T. Morris
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T. Morris

So,… Tom Hanks is now fulfilling the (vacated) role of ‘Rock Hudson’ of Hollywood past, eh? One supposes he’s (Hanks is) also ‘queer as a three-dollar bill?’ Well, no matter. None of this is (or at least should be) surprising in the least in Clown World Hell. In my little world, virtually everyone thinks this whole scare is the biggest bunch of B.S. ever perpetrated upon a people they have ever seen in their lifetimes. Yesterday evening my wife and I met up with at least a dozen close friends and relatives at the local grocery store. Invariably when I… Read more »

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Rednecks keep telling me “it’s just the flu.”

Oh, goody, and I want to catch the flu?

3g4me
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3g4me

And they just cancelled Amren for this year. I’m really not a happy camper.

Rwc1963
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Rwc1963

Trump and his handlers are well on their way to creating another Great Depression by shutting down most of the retail sector. Worse is doing nothing to put our medical manufacturing back here in the states. Trump was asked about a executive order to do that today and he squirmed like a fat hog, it’s clear he has no intention putting our medical industry back in the states. Instead he bragged about Ireland. Stupid gutless f**k. Hell the Chinese haven’t even started shipping goods to the U.S. what there is is just container ships already at sea. The intermodal trains… Read more »

Karl Horst
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Karl Horst

Is this true?? Americans have to pay upwards of $1,300 just to get tested for CoronaVirus??? This sort of testing isn’t free?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHEH3TnRmrQ

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Why get tested? If you get something like the flu, stay home and treat it like the flu. If you start having respiratory difficulties, go to the hospital. What does the test buy you?

Compsci
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Compsci

Perhaps peace of mind. But testing would seem a public good in that we can really get an understanding of the prevalence and spread of the disease.

Dutch
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Widespread testing will show that many people are infected, which will set off one last paroxysm from the usual suspects. Then, over the next couple of weeks from there, we will find out the real death rate from the virus. Then it’s on to all the “told you so’s”, and the next big thing.

Jack Dobson
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Pretty much, Dutch. But the Cloud People found this Big Thing worth wrecking the economy. It has been ratcheting up but this actually is the point where people has to assess whether it is time to revolt or submit. My money is on the latter.

Dutch
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Jack, the average person is a deer in the middle of the road frozen in the glare of the oncoming headlights.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

The nephew knows why we’re running out of TP.

He says for every one person that sneezes, five people sh*t themselves.

Lorenzo
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Lorenzo

What peace of mind?You can test negative today (false negative, maybe?) and catch Coronavirus tomorrow. The paranoids will want a test every day and will still be in a state of panic.

ReturnOfBestGuest
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ReturnOfBestGuest

Medical personnel are being denied tests. Doctors, nurses, PAs, NPs. Maybe they want to adjust their clinical behavior and patient interactions if they have this virus? I see this as pro-active.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

The home care nurses aren’t showing up to work. Got a brother working monster overtime covering for them.

Compsci
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Compsci

Karl, as I’ve posted before, the entire medical billing system is a farce. Prices are not related to real costs, nor is one necessarily expected to pay the bottom line on the bill. The inflated bill is sent to the insurance company who then negotiates with the provider for a more realistic cost. Case in point, I had a blood test a few years ago in my doctor’s office. A mistake on the insurance number caused the Blood Draw/Analysis firm to demand payment from me, $1,100. In called in the correct number for my Medicare and the firm said not… Read more »

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Well, it has been said here many times that people with full bellies don’t revolt.

If this economic lunacy starts causing some empty bellies, and that results in some politicians hanging from lampposts, I call that a win.

And I didn’t even have to do anything subversive, just sit back and watch the morons cut their own throats.

T. Morris
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T. Morris

I’ve said, many many times, that our judges in the U.S. ought to be hanged by the lampposts, and tarred and feathered t’boot. Federal and State alike. Same for our rulers otherwise. Namely our legislators. Trump is just a clown; he gets a pass, therefore. Here I am; I write under my own real name. Come get me.

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You are right to start with the Judges.

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I’m out today renovating one of my rentals in Columbus. Every place I go is full of ordinary people doing ordinary things. This is not the zombie apocalypse I was promised. Damn it, DeWine!

T. Morris
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T. Morris

My wife and I were in the local Lowes two days ago. Nothing was out of the ordinary there. We strictly avoided the Walmart though. Good thing, too; we were later informed that several (white) women were fighting therein over the last box of hand sanitizer they had on the shelf. From now on, everyday is “black Friday.”

3g4me
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3g4me

I bought a bunch of extra bottles of everyone’s shampoo and body wash last week – I just don’t want to go to the store and deal with the drama. Everyone else is desperately hunting for toilet paper and I bought half a dozen cans of hearts of palm. My younger son works at Cabelas and they are certainly open for business – he said they kept the firearm section open until midnight the other night. People are massively stocking up on guns and ammo right now, and he’s always having to help load gun safes into cars.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

I think it is a Black Friday Walmart thing.

The wife in small town Missouri turned around at the lines outside the Walmart doors, and went a mile down the road to the Country Mart. Shelves were full, they had everything.

Frickin’ hillbillies.

They’re having a Rapture party.
End Times a-gogo!

Range Front Fault
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Range Front Fault

Yep…..People in Southern Utah out doing normie things. Mentioned to a couple business owners had they heard the SF Bay Area 7 M+ people on lockdown, and they hadn’t ….asked if they were prepared for a lockdown and they hadn’t applied their brain to it. They know the virus is rumbling but not keeping up with rapidly changing events. Amazing the lack of awareness back here. The good thing is as Mormon and secular strip the grocery shelves and I wander in to buy yummy meat, we all smile at one another.

Yea!…for a lack of diversity!

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Any meat other than Beef? Is an occasional slab o Pig acceptable? Any Chickin Lickin? Can one suck on a Duck?
What about Liquids? Just water or (black) coffee too?

The Right Doctor
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The Right Doctor

I was in Monterey (Calif.) yesterday. Seaside, picturesque, charming, and usually overloaded with tourists, especially during spring break season. I had dinner at a fancy place on Cannery Row and I know it was safer than being on the street: as few people as were out there, I was the only customer. Great service!

Have you ever been there? Imagine Cannery Row, bustling, crowded. A two-car quarter-mile drag race down it at 5 PM would not have endangered anyone but the drivers.

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Speaking of the media, can anyone explain why there has been zero interest or coverage about a well known anti-viral Chloroquine that has been shown to effectively treat COV-19 patients in China and S.Korea and perhaps “flattening the curve” in those countries?

https://tinyurl.com/sb8st4z

Also check the latest stats at Worldometer.info

Jack Dobson
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Jack Dobson

The media’s goal is catastrophe and a supine populace. Potential good news isn’t on the menu.

Jack Dobson
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Jack Dobson

I noticed some time back–a long time, back, actually–that random people on the street naturally assumed certain expected roles when approached by television crews for comments about accidents, celebrities, events, whatever. The interview subjects knew the emotions, the responses, and even the gestures expected of them. It was all unscripted, too. There was no reason to lead the interview subject because the required response almost certainly would be elicited. The ritual had become that ingrained. The cosplay would have been credited as “Man in the Bar” if it were a feature film. I don’t know how this will play out… Read more »

Dutch
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Dutch

Like 9/11 everywhere and the big brush fires of 2003 and 2007 here in parts of San Diego, things return to normal, mostly, and eventually. In the short run, a type of PTSD plays out, and people get jumpy and easily angered. I expect some version of that to play out this time around, too. You can’t disrupt and stress people like that (even if parts of it are a hoax) and expect things to go right back to normal. There is a reckoning to be had.

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I’m starting to think there is a strong possibility this coronavirus isn’t even real, what with all these CIA shill celebrities and politicians claiming to have it while no one I’ve spoken to knows anyone who has it.

Do you personally know anyone who has tested positive for this?

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You move among the peasantry.
Tests are only available to the Great and the Good.
Decent people don’t speak of it.
If it is real, you undoubtedly know someone who has it.
If it is not real, you undoubtedly know twice as many people who “have” it and they will be the usual suspects.

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The hospital in New Hampshire that Vizzinette Prime works at has canceled all elective surgeries and discharged all non-critical care patients. Surgical staff is being forced to take vacation time starting next week. Number of coronavirus patients they’ve seen? Zero. Vizzinette Prime and I just shake our heads. People are being denied surgeries and hospital beds are sitting empty for no reason. They aren’t going to suddenly get 500 patients at once. Wouldn’t it make more sense to continue operating as normal and at least wait until they’ve got some coronavirus patients before they start shutting down other health services?… Read more »

JR Wirth
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JR Wirth

I just got back from the grocery store. We’re living in a South Park episode. This is madness! This is a death rattle of a failing system.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Great news! PA, feeder line to the East coast, is shutting down all rest stops through the state. So bags of s**t and trucks parked on the shoulder are the state’s solution. The cleaner’s union is probably on strike, maybe. VA, the other main feeder, did this during the Meltdown- mad money from parking tickets, since sales taxes were down. Garbage everywhere. Low caste cleaners and garbagemen are like doctors- a nasty and disgusting job that must be done for real civilization to exist. (Secret: your prepared and courteous driver has used a porta potty for many years- been stuck… Read more »

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Egads. Way too much information.
Zman, if you have one jot, one tittle, one iota of mercy in your hard rock soul you’ll delete that above, for one of your less gifted commentors.

My interest in the dark necessities has undone me. Garbage, sewage, morgue and medical disposal.

What should I blab about next?
Hauling crash test corpses and dismembered body parts, frozen, in sealed tubs?
Chuting cattle in an abattoir and rendering?
Running optical cable through sewers?
Raw blackwater processing turbines?
Homeless camp memoirs? Digging latrines?

Some things should be hidden from the genteel public. Embarrassment abounds.

Carl B.
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Carl B.

When the trucks quit running you had better have plenty of ammo and food stored away.