Thoughts On Modern Media

One of the things people have always believed about modern media is that video beats audio and audio beats the written word. Before the rise of “new media” on the internet, this meant television was better than radio and radio better than newspapers. In the internet age, the assumption now is that live streamers have greater reach than podcasters and podcasters have a greater reach than bloggers. Mixed in there are people who exist only as entities on social media platforms.

One reason for this assumption is youth culture. In liberal democracy, the young are treated like gods, in the same way novel social ideas are treated as gifts from the gods, so whatever young people like is heralded as pure and beautiful. Young people, especially children, are first drawn to images, then sounds and finally as they mature into adults, the written word. In modern liberal democracies, therefore, video platforms are treated like sacred altars where our most sacred members perform.

The youth culture phenomenon has co-evolved with the rise of mass media. In the days before mass media, young people were at the bottom of the cultural hierarchy. The first flicker of youth culture in America was the jazz age, but even there the people driving it were old by modern standards. The characters in The Great Gatsby, for example, are mostly early middle-aged. It was after the war with the explosion of Hollywood that youth culture blossomed into the centerpiece of modern life.

Another reason why video maintains a privileged place at the top of our social hierarchy is Baby Boomer culture. For Boomers, for whom mass media evolved, video was always the top. In the golden age of television, for example, the whole country would watch popular television programs. No newspaper or radio broadcaster had the reach of a popular television program. Hitting the big time in the field of news or entertainment meant getting on TV or in the movies.

As much as young people, and not so young people, complain about the Baby Boom generation, the Boomers still control the culture. That is plainly obvious with the panic over the Chinese virus. If the Boomers were twenty years younger, the virus would rate a few mentions in the New York Times science section. Since Boomers are now deeply involved in the health care system, anything medical is going to be of utmost importance to everyone. It is why nurses are now heroes.

Putting all that aside, there is a curious truth about these different platforms that has gone unnoticed. The actual reach of video these days is much lower than the past and probably at the bottom of the hierarchy. For example, Tucker Carlson is the most popular cable talker. He gets about three million viewers per night. The regular audience for cable chat shows is probably around ten million people. The New York Times has more readers than that. Same with other news sites.

On the internet, where it is much more difficult to gate-keep the content, the disparities are even more stark. Popular live streamers get a few thousand live views and their replays get 20-30 thousand views. A variation of the Pareto Principle is clear as day as a handful of top streamers dominate the view counts while 90% or more are small fish with small viewer counts. The gamer PewDiePie, for example, probably accounts for half of D-Live’s traffic, maybe even more of it.

In the political realm, the data is starker. Nick Fuentes gets about 30-thousand viewers to his show each night. The bulk of it is the same people, as his subscriber count mirrors his view counts, assuming either number is accurate. When he was on YouTube his numbers were briefly higher, but that was due to the phenomenon of the “groyper war” that got him national attention. Again, these numbers are suspect, but let’s just assume his unfettered reach is somewhere around 50-thousand.

Greg Johnson’s site, Counter-Currents, gets about 300-thousand unique visits every month, according to his reporting. The Unz Review probably gets two to three times that traffic, maybe even more. There are dozens of sites catering to outsider politics that get much bigger audiences than Fuentes and he’s the big dog now. When you drop into the typical streamer, the difference becomes amusing. A “popular” streamer, someone that thinks they are a big deal, gets about 10-thousand views.

Getting back to where we started, in new media, the old rule is in reverse. The written word beats the spoken word and the spoken word beats video. Again, the metrics used in these formats are suspect and the comparisons are not equal. Unz and Counter-Currents have a fleet of contributors, while streamers are solo acts or maybe a team operating a single show. Even so, a blogger like Heartiste probably had over 100-thousand readers at his peak, double that of Fuentes.

There’s something else to throw into the mix. There is a difference between viewership, reach and influence. Take a poll of random Americans and more of them will have some familiarity with Nick Fuentes. They may not know anything about Fuentes, other than he is the “Nazi kid on the internet”, but his name will be familiar to them, because they have heard it on their preferred media. Ron Unz, on the other hand, may as well be witness protection. He is an unknown to most everyone.

The fact is, video is still the format with the greatest reach. People are much more likely to share a video clip than copy text from a site and mail it to a friend. They may share a link on their social media platform, but people are much less likely to click the link than watch the video. That’s how Tucker Carlson is a household name, despite the fact that 90% of American adults do not watch his show – ever. With video, you can become wildly famous even though most people never see you.

Now, reach is a different thing than influence. Does Nick Fuentes influence people with his nightly show? In his case, he probably does. Kids are drawn to his act, then passively pick up his politics. Carlson, on the other hand, plays to an established audience that has always existed. He just makes their priors more fun. That said, the typical Counter-Currents reader was a white nationalist before they found that site, which is the main appeal. Greg caters to that existing audience.

The most likely answer with regards to reach and influence is that the written word is the main driver of opinion. Few people reading this will know the name F. Roger Devlin, but his book Sexual Utopia in Power is largely responsible for the entire “man-o-sphere” genre on-line. If we extend that out to the pick-up artists, anti-feminists and others, Devlin has had more influence on men than all of the live streamers combined. His influence will continue into the next generations.

Finally, one last thing about these media platforms. In the legacy media, the newspaper man dreamed of getting a spot-on radio, as the hours were shorter and the pay better than being a beat writer or columnist. The radio guys dreamed of getting a television gig, because the pay was orders of magnitude better. ESPN hoovered up anyone with the least bit of talent for video, because they paid better. Tucker Carlson abandoned writing for television in order to get rich as a personality.

A similar, but smaller scale phenomenon seems to be working in new media. The reason there are so many live streamers is they make money at it. Nick Fuentes makes over $200,000 from his D-live platform. J.F. Gariepy claims to be making six figures with his live stream. These monetization systems like Stream Labs, Entropy and Super Chats sprung up because they can skim a bit from the flow of cash from viewers to these live streamers. Even the little guys make decent money.

In contrast, blogs and websites remain the ghetto of the internet. Three times a year Steve Sailer has to beg for money just to avoid living in a homeless camp. Greg Johnson is constantly looking for money to keep the lights on. These guys have vastly larger audiences than the live streamers, but a fraction of the income. Readers just refuse to support the writers they like, while viewers will take out a mortgage to pay the cable bill, so they can watch their favorite programs.

The reason for this is the way people engage the creator on these platforms. The old saying about the difference between television and radio is that television is a warm medium, while radio is a hot one. A television personality is like a guest at a party, in that they are engaging, but avoid being loud or animated. Radio guys have to be loud and excited in order to grab the listener’s attention. Most people consume audio content while doing other things, so the host has to get their attention.

What this means is the person consuming video is not really there for the content, but rather the social interaction. Live streaming allows the viewer to feel like they are in a party where the streamer is the guest of honor. Television news is loaded with amiable airheads for the same reason. People will welcome a dunce into their home if he is fun at parties, but not invite the smart guy with the unpleasant demeanor. People are willing to pay a lot to be flattered by a good guest in their home.


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Reziac
Reziac
5 months ago

I think also there’s the impulse buying thing. Video is more impulse-driven; reading is more of a deliberate activity. Guess which one produces more impulse buyers of that ten seconds of fame.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
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Reply to  thezman
5 months ago

I consume all the media types with the exception of printed hard copy. For me, the voice is far more important than the format or platform. Without integrity, all you are is another grifter or dancing monkey fit only for entertainment. Just as ancient Romans would throw stones at the monkey to watch him shriek and caper… I troll the monkeys to watch them flip out and start flinging feces. 😆👍 But that gets old fast. I set my watch and compass to this blog and a handful of others. It isn’t because we agree on everything, it’s because of… Read more »

Course360
Course360
Reply to  thezman
5 months ago

Late to the party and sorry for it. How are the revenues untaxable? Aren’t they either compensation for services, thus taxable as income, or gifts subject to gift taxation?

Not attempting to present a problem here but I am sincerely self-interested given I have paid, perhaps stupidly, taxes on compensation received from streamed webinars in a technical field.

In any event, keep of the fantastic work. Life everybody else here, I want to buy your book(s) to distribute to normie prospects. Good luck regardless.

greyenlightenment
Reply to  Course360
5 months ago

cypto deposits and withdrawals hard to track but if you are making enough the govt. will find out eventually. may take awhile. as in years. bank deposits of $ will be red flag.

Course360
Course360
Reply to  greyenlightenment
5 months ago

Once you withdraw from crypto the transactions are easy to track. The government then backtracks and you have provided an ironclad ledger of evidence. They’ll squeeze you for access and data, and unless the amounts are truly grand that years in the hoosegow are worth it you will comply. The money is now theirs. Which it is anyhow. I am unhappy I’ve paid the piper but I sleep better than I would otherwise.

Member
5 months ago

There’s other factors at work as well. First, I’d wager that a lot of people on our side of the divide are more readers and writers. At least I am. While I listen on Friday, I’m more engaged with your written content. I own a library of well read, annotated books. The left hasn’t been readers for a long time, because unlike the dissident Right, they and their dancing partners have owned the airwaves. Of course, it’s agitprop, and now that the Boomer God of TV is dying, they’re moving to corner the market for online video agitprop. We’re stuck… Read more »

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Pickle Rick
5 months ago

Their propaganda is embedded in everything, even stuff that has nothing to do with their politics. It is even in their advertisements for the junk we are supposed to consume. It is in the bottom line assumptions of our culture. Like if you want to establish a bad guy in a TV show, just have him be mean to a woman or say something racist. It will just be automatically assumed this is a bad guy you hate. When you have been away from TV/Movies for a long time, it is amazing how quickly that kind of stuff just jumps… Read more »

Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
5 months ago

I wonder if the immolation of entertainment in this fake plague might leave a vacuum that we could fill with our agitprop.
I’ve been wondering what happens if Disney goes under.

d.deacon
d.deacon
Reply to  Pickle Rick
5 months ago

it would help to rescue whatever remains of our old agitprop, which still has symbolic relevance. and i’m not even talking about Christendom restoration, which is also important, but about any secular cultural totem/artifact of any size. for example, was seeing that James Bond is getting ever more subverted recently, while also that there’s been a countercurrent following of his older movies, to the point of making fan-fiction and modded videogames. we should either cater to this crowd with similar characters (what Vox Day attempts with the superhero fandom, however successfully or not), or revive similar ones that may be… Read more »

Maus
Maus
Reply to  tarstarkas
5 months ago

@tarstarkas. It’s quite diabolic actually. Take the Amazon Prime program “Upload” just released May 4th. Who knew that in 2035, every other person would be a talented, employed black person? Of course, all the bad guys are super rich white guys. The plot was actually engaging, but that just makes the fact that it was coopted for the racial propaganda more infuriating. One has to ask why super rich guy Jeff Bezos seems driven to employ legions of hack black actors for his Amazon Prime original productions. It smells like a giant pile of social engineering to me.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Maus
5 months ago

Seriously dude. Don’t you know that anything produced with big money is going to be racial agitprop. Its called programming for a reason Besides multiculturalism is the elites religion and to them a civic necessity and so they will flog it at every opportunity in hopes it sticks. Nearly everything is woke trash these days and the best thing you can do is get rid of the TV, get rid of the subscriptions and do almost anything else Go read an old book or draw or whittle or something. This not only keep the amount of poison you are forced… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Maus
5 months ago

Actually these racial fantasies in video media can work to our side’s advantage. Even the most brain-dead moron must venture out into the real world at least occasionally, and he’ll notice that the color balance is quite different there than what’s portrayed on TV.

d.deacon
d.deacon
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
5 months ago

which is why they are not wanting to let us go outside anymore…

Maus
Maus
Reply to  Pickle Rick
5 months ago

I agree with you Pickle Rick. Without trying to flatter myself or others in Our Thing, reading is the more thoughtful and discursive activity. But I also find it supremely ironic that I’m agreeing with a comrade who’s avatar is from a wildly popular video animation. Clearly, you complete the trifecta and “watch” as well as read and listen. I suspect most of us do.

Member
Reply to  Maus
5 months ago

Digital Camouflage. It’s too easy to pick out badthinkers when they draw attention to themselves with Viking runes, Confederate flags or other easy to recognize stuff. How many other thousands of cartoon pickle fans are on the internet?

Besides, we don’t have to cut ourselves off from all entertainment. We just have to be sure we don’t pay our enemies to do it all.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Pickle Rick
5 months ago

I agree that we should not give them any money, but I also think we should not let their agitprop into our heads. Plus, for me anyway, the POZ and the racial messaging just ruins it for me anyway. I used to occasionally watch The Walking Dead with my wife, but it became so blatant that I just couldn’t watch it anymore. The apocalypse is going to be gays and race-mixers!

Vizzini
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Reply to  Pickle Rick
5 months ago

😉

Screwtape
Screwtape
5 months ago

Strange, I though I read on a blog the other day that Ron Unz had died of the Covid in early April.

Irishfarmer
Irishfarmer
Reply to  Screwtape
5 months ago

The Mandela-Unz effect?

PatientZero
PatientZero
Reply to  Screwtape
5 months ago

Ron is Jewish. So he’s always dying of something terrible. Diagnosed with yet another terrible condition even after death and resurrection.

Member
5 months ago

I bet you could get self protection sponsors for your podcast. You could then spend the first 3 minutes each time touting their wares.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Κύριε Οὖτις
5 months ago

Dear Z-Man, we really like your column and are happy with our relationship, but we have received some complaints about x. If you could just tone it down a little bit, maybe not cover x so much, it would be mutually beneficial.

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tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  thezman
5 months ago

Plus, bread is thicker than ideology. The companies almost always cuck when some SJW can bring a lot of pressure on them. I suppose you can’t really blame them. After all, YOU, not them are the real target. Not only do they have to worry about SJWs screwing up their websites with DDOS attacks and the like, but now they have to worry about their bank closing down their lines of credit or their ability to accept credit cards for payment.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  tarstarkas
5 months ago

Woke capital in support of SJWs at the banks and online payment processors is the crux of the problem. It’s hard to be part of the online world if your payment options are limited to cash and bullion via mail.

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
Reply to  thezman
5 months ago

Thanks Z Man. That is what many of us appreciate about this site. We sense it’s genuine and not just a way for the author to become famous or influential. Although you are very influential in this thing. For those of us whom have met you we know for certain your commitment to the dissident movement is genuine.

Tyler, the Portly Politico
Reply to  thezman
5 months ago

Have you found the SubscribeStar approach to be beneficial? I think I learned about it from you. I have six humble subscribers myself. I found it was very difficult even to get people to sign up who WANTED to sign up. For example, I’d get the, “Oh, yeah, I need to sign up for that, I’m just never at my computer when I think about it” (my younger brother told me that, haha, and finally did sign up). I’ve had family members who read my blog who have had me sign them up at parties. I’m closing in on 500… Read more »

Irishfarmer
Irishfarmer
5 months ago

“People will welcome a dunce into their home if he is fun at parties, but not invite the smart guy with the unpleasant demeanor.”

Oh f**k, that explains so much…..

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Irishfarmer
5 months ago

I have a theory.

Most human beings will Think only as last resort.. They’ll find a Social solution first , a Physical one second and Think last.

This is evolution in action as the cost to using brainpower is high and most people only have a little of it.

Boffins and the like are the opposite, Think, Physical , Social last

The other category, of people is Physical. Social, Think in that order

These guys, we’ll call them jocks are tolerated more than thinkers since the gap between action preferences is smaller

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  abprosper
5 months ago

I’m tending to agree with you, AB, case in point, myself. As I get older, I get mentally lazy. There’s just crap that I really don’t want to think about. I have a wiz-bang cell phone the kids gave me. Screw all the apps and settings and photography and internet—all I want is to *dial* a damn 7 digit number. Most of the time it is turned off and sits on my desk. 🙁

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Compsci
5 months ago

At my age I’m now ready to go full SS on everything around me.

PatientZero
PatientZero
Reply to  Epaminondas
5 months ago

At my age, flatulence is the real killer and I’m a spreader.

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  Epaminondas
5 months ago

Social Security? ;p

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
5 months ago

Funny thing is, it is a lot easier to propagandize people with video than with the written word and it is far easier to spread the ideas which were initially spread by writing, in the video format. It is also a lot easier to convince someone of a position via video. A lot of verbal tricks just do not work when written. Also, the barrier to entry has historically been extremely high for video and fairly small for the written word. Even when low cost video cameras started reaching the market, the costs were still relatively high. You would have… Read more »

sam the man
Reply to  tarstarkas
5 months ago

But it seems that the dirt people did change something in 2016

Phoenix
Phoenix
Reply to  sam the man
5 months ago

But look at the backlash in the form of cencorship, that has followed.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Phoenix
5 months ago

Censorship is a win for us because it hits a lot of normies. Before 2016, white nationalism was David Duke.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
5 months ago

I am unaware of anyone ever using audio tapes, though you would always find audio tapes or CDs in small religious shops.

Audio tapes toppled Reza Palavi, the Iranian shah.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Felix Krull
5 months ago

OH, I didn’t know that. I know a lot of Islamic stuff gets spread on CD and presumably used to be cassettes. Thanks.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
5 months ago

Cassette tapes were great. They were cheap, compact, easy to copy and near indestructible: sometimes the player would make spaghetti out of it, but you could usually fix it with a bit of patience. You could rescue tapes by transferring the tape from a broken cassette into a repurposed one. If properly stored, they last decades. There’s a reason Pirate Bay has a cassette tape in their logo. You could build a quite respectable music library out of delivering a few newspapers per week, and the players were cheap too. On most stereos, you could record directly from radio, so… Read more »

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Felix Krull
5 months ago

I still use cassettes. Besides already owning a lot of music cassettes from when they were current, it is the easiest way I have found to get a good sounding copy of music off of YouTube. Recompressing YouTube downloads into mp3 generates a lot of noise. Even the YT download services are just horrible. It sounds like it was recorded from an AM radio with poor reception. This is the main problem with digital music. Once it is compressed once, recompressing into a different format just introduces way too many problems. I just create a playlist, hook it up to… Read more »

Anotheranon
Anotheranon
Reply to  Felix Krull
5 months ago

That’s why he had the windows opened and had the fingernail pulling stepped up at the big Prison in Tehran. People out doing their chores, strolling past, were reminded that Savaak was everywhere. (Until they weren’t, that is)

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Anotheranon
5 months ago

Savak was no worse (nor better) than any secret police in that part of the world, and certainly a lot better than what followed.

Tykebomb
Tykebomb
5 months ago

I listen to audio on my commute or at work. The rest of the time I read blogs or books. I’ve never had my mind blown by a YouTube video or podcast. The information just isn’t there. Even the smart guys who make high brow podcasts just don’t transmit high level ideas. Coming back to YouTube debates or response videos is like sitting down by the kiddie pool. These people’s ideas are simple minded. It’s a game of constantly going “yeah, but.” This is the most popular form of political content. In contrast, my kindle app has evolved my thinking… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Tykebomb
5 months ago

I vastly prefer reading to trying to watch video clips. I find most 20 minute, heck most 10 minute long video clips excruciatingly tedious to sit through.

bilejones
Member
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
5 months ago

Most accustomed readers can read 3-5 times faster than they listen.
Videos impart very little information for the time they consume. Much of the content of video is distraction which is why just audio is a better, more focused way of imparting a few simple facts.

Jack Boniface
Jack Boniface
Member
5 months ago

There’s also the ease now of listening anything I want to in my car, including your show, Tucker’s monologue, Scott Adams, etc. As recently as 10 years ago it was Rush or local talk radio.

Sperg Adjacent
Sperg Adjacent
5 months ago

LOL, trying to squeeze in this comment before The Third Rail starts. Sexual Utopia in Power is a very important, and very terrifying book. Highly recommended. Even if Counter-Current’s payment processor is down, you can probably find it at LibGen, and then donate $20 to Counter Currents (actually, I know you can do that because that’s what I did, LOL.) But I should point out to the Zman that that books is only enormously influential because somebody took the trouble to collect Devlin’s articles into a book. I’ve seen people needling you about this, Zman, and they’re right: it’s inexcusably… Read more »

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Sperg Adjacent
5 months ago

Ah, Third Rail. Wish Lauritz was still with them. Cast of hosts is hit or miss these days, but mostly better since the Chinaman dog guy took over. Lol

Sperg Adjacent
Sperg Adjacent
Reply to  Forever Templar
5 months ago

The unevennes of right-wing podcasts–both in content and production values–is almost comical.

After getting rid of my TV, podcasts are my new “nothing better to do default activity.” Probably still better than insidious network propaganda, to be honest.

But sometimes the “talent” say something arresting that really sticks with you. It’s like those dumpster divers who occasionally find a new computer or something, LOL.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Sperg Adjacent
5 months ago

Agree. There’s something about a book that accelerates the message. Not sure why, but it does. Also, it’s more of a permanent record.

And, frankly, Z Man is guy that needs to write a book the most. Sailer and Derb are fine, but they’re more poking holes in the current system. That’s useful for recruiting, but Z is the next step forward. He’s writing about what we should do next. How to build something, not just make fun of the system. That’s the book that needs to be written.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
5 months ago

Derb did fine job with We Are Doomed!

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  BadThinker
5 months ago

Oh yea, forgot about that. That was good. In many ways, Z’s book could be We Are Doomed! Part II: We’re Not Voting Our Way Out of This.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  BadThinker
5 months ago

Yes. I admire his (inevitable) dry British wit. I’ve listened to his audio show but usually wait a week and read the transcript in about five minutes 🙂

greyenlightenment
Reply to  Sperg Adjacent
5 months ago

book of original content vs collection of posts.

SidVic
SidVic
Reply to  Sperg Adjacent
5 months ago

Well, volunteer to do it for him. The guy is putting out a essay a day and an increasingly proffesional podcast. Presumably holding down a day job to. James Lafond fell in shit, came out smelling like lavender when he found lynn lockheart.

Abelard Lindsey
Abelard Lindsey
5 months ago

“If the Boomers were twenty years younger, the virus would rate a few mentions in the New York Times science section.”

This is a very astute observation. I came to the same conclusion about a month ago. For some reason leftist millennials favor continuing the shutdowns as well. Ironically, I work with boomers and everyone of them wants to end these shutdowns immediately.

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  Abelard Lindsey
5 months ago

Many of them have this fantasy that their student loans will be forgiven.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Lawdog
5 months ago

Although I’m not the target demographic, I have some student loans I took out in my 40s during my “professional student” phase. Finally got a MS in Spanish at age 54 that collects dust 😀 I wouldn’t turn down a $30K write down of my debt. To all appearances, there is infinite free money for everybody so you might as well take your helping until the system completely is exhausted.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Abelard Lindsey
5 months ago

A lot of Leftist millennials are not doing all that well in life. Heck, even the ones that are doing fairly well are extremely bitter about the boomers’ control of the culture and economy. I keep in touch with a Leftish Xennial who was a successful mid-level engineer that has moved to urban planning. He has a paid-off condo, career, and stable marriage. Of course, he believes Canada is superior to the US in every possible way and visits America’s Hat as much as possible. Anyway, his comment on this whole situation, especially with regard to the economic fallout was:… Read more »

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
5 months ago

FWIW a lot of us Gen X want it to burn too. Many of us got screwed too though not as much as Gen Y.

Millennials you see have 67% less in terms of real wealth than the Boomer’s did at the same age.

Its no wonder the Left leaning ones are Socialists . They got all the rungs of the ladder sawed out from under them and the people with saws prating about how lazy and useless they were.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  abprosper
5 months ago

Well, ab, the fact of the matter is that your generation got a thorough cult-Marx brainwashing in primary school while old fart Boomers like me escaped it. I actually escaped Nixon’s racial integration schemes. Those of us who are on this side of the Great Divide are a bit suspicious when we meet you young’ns for the first time. We’re not sure what you know and when you knew it. Caution, you see. We need a secret handshake.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Epaminondas
5 months ago

We do at that I think the limit of cultural Marxism in my day was Fat Albert whose message was roughly “Black Folks are different than Whites but at heart want/need the same stuff.” Despite that most of my school days were in a 100% White school that considered physical courage to be a high virtue and while it could not exactly be directly taught we had mandatory use of the wire slide in P.E! Ironically a hypothetical public school system in a Dissident Right society would resemble the Charter School system of today with heavy IQ segregation though we’d… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  abprosper
5 months ago

As mentioned before, the Boomers are a generation in decline—as in we are old and dying off. Next two decades will wrap our stay here—unless Corona virus finishes us first.

Bloomberg news had an article wrt this turnover—specifically as to wealth. They estimated that the largest transfer of wealth, intergeneration transfer, with occur in the next decade or so—$62T. Where’s that going? One guess, Millennials.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Compsci
5 months ago

Its probably going to be a lot less. Many, maybe most Boomers are spendthrift.

Besides us Gen X will be getting some too.

sam the man
Reply to  Abelard Lindsey
5 months ago

Boomers come from the time of more reality. that is even if they come from rich families they were expected to work any jobs—like dirty ones to learn to work. they would work their way through college when it was still possible. They are the last who remember reality of life. They are the first generation of what I call homo–televicus so they still have some connection to reality even though very little .

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  sam the man
5 months ago

The older Millennials are often pre Internet since that generation started in 1981, The youngest ones were born in 1996 , some of those had pre internet childhoods too. Its not media or cellphones though those did contribute. I’d argue what makes Gen Y like it is now is the brittleness of society. One mistake, one bad choice and your life is ruined. The vast amount of slack Boomer’s had and the someone lesser amount Gen X had was gone. They can’t afford to make mistakes and have been screwed over economically for Boomer’s and again. Gen X at least… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  abprosper
5 months ago

It’s as unfair to blame the pandemic for whatever economic fate awaits us, than it would be to blame the 1929 flu season for the start of the Great Depression. These happen because of decades of bad choices, government interventions and general eocnomic rot.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
5 months ago

Some yes. No economy could survive what happened with the strip mining our economy nor exposure to a novel genetic engineered virus from our trade partner. More importantly baring a dictatorship, the US will not ever have a balanced healthy economy. Our culture is entirely overcome with graft, grifting and for many a truculent refusal to pay Americans decent wages. If this were not the case Gen Y would be 67% wealthier than they are , maybe more, Instead everything went to the 1% with a pittance to the 10% below them. Truth is a huge number of so called… Read more »

The Babe
The Babe
5 months ago

One medium that warrants a mention is Twitter. It has no financial aspect, but is an absolute engine of redpilling.

I thought I was already pretty right-woke before I got on Twitter, but it took me to places I’d never imagined.

Even after the 2016 election, incessant bannings, throttling/shadowbanning, et cetera, it’s still a major forum for doing our thing. Being good at Twitter is a very special and unique type of talent, and some of our guys have got the knack.

Jay
Jay
5 months ago

“ Since Boomers are now deeply involved in the health care system, anything medical is going to be of utmost importance to everyone. It is why nurses are now heroes.”

I suppose that’s true. But I would argue it’s about the roles and new women power more than simply boomers. All this has more the feel of relentless female nagging and total commitment to risk aversion.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Jay
5 months ago

Jay, I get that sense as well but I would add that for a lot of the strong independent womyn in my circles the risk aversion is largely limited to that of social status risk.

Real risk has been removed from their lives. The real aversion is to (negative) consequences; to having responsibility for any poor outcomes of their decisions thrust upon them. They have the authority but loathe the responsibility.

This is what dovetails with boomer fragility and death fears to form the “I’m with her” wokescold coalition of the gynocracy.

Attack Poodle
Attack Poodle
5 months ago

Vox Day’s “Darkstreams” appear well-attended given the chat activity and subscriber numbers in the tens of thousands. Not millions, granted.

Which may contradict but not invite the smart guy with the unpleasant demeanor. Or for that matter Ann Coulter. Just an observation.

Reply to  Attack Poodle
5 months ago

What you fail to understand is that many subscribers are there for the hate viewing and some actually pay to troll old Teddy Spaghetti. Also reference the “assuming either number is accurate” when Z is talking about Nick Fuentes. This is you, isn’t it Ted? Has to burn when Z uses Nick Fuentes as an example and not The One That Sits on The Throne Gay & Cringe.

Attack Poodle
Attack Poodle
Reply to  Stetson_Shrihan
5 months ago

Not a defender and certainly not the man himself. Somebody who would routinely tune into a stream they hate consistently over years simply to spew vitriol and troll has clinical psychological problems. Is that you, John Wayne?

Grace
Grace
Reply to  Attack Poodle
5 months ago

Vox is a contender. Sigmas can be bristly around each other, but you are on the same side of the divide.

Whitney
Member
5 months ago

Hey, I support you. And I don’t give money to any of the video people. I also own and have read that Devlin book. But I can see your problem for print people because I know I’m weird. Who knows what the future holds because, God knows, not one of us would have predicted what’s going on right now two months again

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Whitney
5 months ago

It’s a bit creepy to see what can happen based on something as silly as this “pandemic”. What happens when things get REAL? It seems to me that we are no longer a serious nation.

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
5 months ago

Fellowship and spectacle, two things we are hard wired for. They fill the room and hold our attention. A lecture or radio can open doors and paint a landscape. They awaken the intellect but are not able to set deep roots of comprehension. Text, paper & pencil and quiet focus are a necessity to master subject matter beyond the superficial. Writing forces us to focus even more and to clarify and to pare things down into what we truly think. All of these seem woven together within our social fabric, from our passive intake of spectacles that draw our attention… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Yves Vannes
5 months ago

Your comment about paper & pencil are why I am totally against any sort of electronic aid for students until about 15 or 16 years of age.

Banging away on a keyboard or tapping a screen simply does not develop the kind of rigorous intuition that one needs to truly understand writing, math, or any technical subject from their fundamentals to their most esoteric niches.

It is more than clear that writing and hand work develops neural pathways that the mindless tapping does not.

(((They))) Live
(((They))) Live
5 months ago

In contrast to the MSM and Hollywood not many members of of the Tribe are popular youtubers, harder for them to rig the game and control who gets to be popular, NICE

Trojan House
Trojan House
5 months ago

If the boomers still control the culture then the boomers are the ones have created ‘binary’ politics as you pointed out in a previous blog. Not only that, they created a culture of feminized men and butch women, the cucks and the Karens. Gen Xers were right along there with them as they refused to grow up and even enabled their kids, millennials, to become who they are today – afraid of their own shadows. Helicopter parenting, sharing culture, etc., all contributed to it. Look at Facebook. Kids don’t use it but their parents do. Eventually Twitter, Instagram and Snapchat… Read more »

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
5 months ago

I saw a little girl try to SJW with chalk in front of mommy’s hospital the other day. She wrote “A hoer works here!”

Henry Lee
Member
5 months ago

Trump is a Boomer but Fauci and I are the products of people who didn’t go to war. So, technically this shutdown was caused by a pre-Boomer and implemented by a Boomer. All that said, I don’t think the Boomer public takes this thing nearly so seriously as the young based on a non-scientific, non-peer reviewed tabulation of mask wearers in an area which, as a whole, doesn’t take this thing seriously. It looks like about half the people at Kroger and Wal-Mart are wearing masks and most of those are Gen-somethings.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
5 months ago

For content, either in video, podcasts or written, I still marvel at how things have changed. In the 90’s and early 2000’s, I subscribed to Chronicles (flagship paleoconservative magazine) and Sam Francis’ newsletter. Amren also put out a newsletter. There was also a monthly newspaper called “Middle American News”, which was borne out of the Reform Party movement. It featured writers such as Charley Reese, Joe Sobran, Francis, Paul Craig Roberts, maybe Derb, although I can’t remember. The paper covered in detail how members of Congress voted on various bills, which is what a newspaper should do. The circulation of… Read more »

One of Many Georges
One of Many Georges
Reply to  Wolf Barney
5 months ago

I advocate what you might call the “one step” approach: try to get people to take one step to the right from where they currently are. Some people just arent ready for the hardest of the hard-right stuff, but you can still keep them moving down “redpill road.” And I totally agree that you should never waste time with the “unredpillable” hardcore leftists. Total waste of time, and will get your social media accounts nuked. Better, as Wolf said, to focus on the already conservative, libertarian, or right-curious types. Twitter and comments section protip: try to get one of the… Read more »

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Wolf Barney
5 months ago

“Our Thing” does a terrible job at outreaching to Rush and Hannity peeps in general. There is no one go to site or even a e-booklet that explains things.

If “our thing” was a church it would be populated by parishioners who don’t talk to walk-ins, have no pamphlets describing their church or what it is about. It would a church without a bible or even a creed.

That said,it would be nice if “Our Thing” had the equivalent of Paine’s “Common Sense” but we don’t.

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  Rwc1963
5 months ago

Revolutions require negative identity so strong that something like “Common Sense” catches fire. Did Paine’s readers love America (yet-to-be defined) enough to risk the noose, or was “Common Sense” effective propaganda because they hated the Brits enough? Rush & Hannity are popular because they’re approved opposition permitted their corner of Overton space. Most of their listeners aren’t willing to test those fences yet. The kabuki theater continues to satisfy what little itch for subversion they have. They have to hate the system more first. They’re too comfortable right now. We can’t force that. Historically times like this are when dissidents… Read more »

bobbody
bobbody
Reply to  Exile
5 months ago

Times like this (blogging to victory) was 20 years ago.

Revolutions occur beause people think it’s possible to win.

You have given up but won’t admit it so you post comments on sites and content yourself with these victories.

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  bobbody
5 months ago

Try reading some of my past comments before you decide I’ve “given up,” noob.

Severian
5 months ago

I think one of the biggest problems for “big think”-type blogs is a kind of analysis paralysis. For one thing, everyone who has ever written a blog post has had the experience of laying out what you think is an airtight case for X, with a throwaway remark in there about Y… and then getting a whole bunch of comments about nothing but Y. It encourages pedantry from both writers and commenters. The other, more insidious form is the knowledge that it has all been said before. It’s similar to real academic work – you just *know* that there’s a… Read more »

Basic Bill
Basic Bill
Reply to  Severian
5 months ago

I find the “gruggist” movement on Twitter to be somewhat encouraging: Grug says, our guys good, their guys bad, that sort of thing.

It’s a humorous way of reminding you to take your own side. But one wonders if the irony in which it’s packaged will rot away the core message.

Severian, haven’t you got some new thing like “practical life lessons drawn from the classics”? Where can we find that?

Vegetius
Vegetius
Reply to  Basic Bill
5 months ago

The danger of being in a vanguard has always been getting too far out in front and/or disappearing up your own asshole.

There is a place for a couple of goys talking Hediegger between two lampshades. Or at least I can remember when there was.

But having ten thousand ever-ready to point and yell Jew! is where the meta meets the mass in politics.

Severian
Reply to  Basic Bill
5 months ago

It’s here, thanks for asking. But it really is just talking about Marcus Aurelius and suchlike.

Anotheranon
Anotheranon
5 months ago

Maybe there’s an element of laziness too. Reading is not passive, afterall. It takes effort.

Ifrank
Ifrank
5 months ago

The short of it, most people would rather be entertained than informed. They would rather follow than lead, be supported than challenged, agreeable than troublesome, accepted than ostracized.

Hilltop
Hilltop
Reply to  Ifrank
5 months ago

True enough. But one has to accept the truth. It means that our guys have to try harder to be entertaining–and, as you say, to take the lead.

As somebody said above, the production values of a lot of our sides’ stuff is so bad. If we could combine the solid intellectual content with a bit of narrative polish and some snap in the pacing and production values, it would be dynamite.

Fox News Nipples
Fox News Nipples
5 months ago

Video’s tendency to reduce people into impulsive children lacking self control is very real. It turns too many people into Ahmaud Arberys at the exact moment in history we should be learning impulse control. Video has infantilized people at the same time as it has prevented them from responding to events coherently “IRL”. That is a remarkable ability: to both excite and pacify people at the same time. There’s a reason the first cracks in society coincided with the rise of TV. There’s also a reason the tech totalitarians refuse to give their own kids access to the same products… Read more »

eton_wobbly
eton_wobbly
Reply to  Fox News Nipples
5 months ago

Video and social media definitely seem to be mixed blessings, but on the other hand I wonder if they have inadvertently done more to grow the dissident right (in the broadest sense of that term to mean anyone dissatisfied with leftist or libertarian narratives) than any one figure, event, or organized movement. The ubiquity of smartphone video shared peer-to-peer on social media has made it really, really easy to “notice” things we formerly were never allowed to notice through the carefully curated MSM. Even though the McMichaels will probably be railroaded, the smartphone video (and emerging security camera videos) quickly… Read more »

Panopticon
Panopticon
Reply to  eton_wobbly
5 months ago

FTN has digested the Arbery situation very accurately: I still think the McMichaels will be sacrificed to keep the peace but the MSM narrative would probably never have cracked if not for the presence of video, cameras, and phones everywhere:
https://therightstuff.biz/2020/05/09/ftn-311-gettin-the-old-noggin-joggin/

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
5 months ago

The change in media over the last 10 years has been fantastic. Old boomers are hard wired for cable news because their brains are too rotted out for something different. Any thinking person says goodbye to televised news at some point. The establishment can’t stand this. The establishment’s ideal was Walter Cronkite, an avid socialist who would sail his yacht in the Atlantic in-between “telling it like it is.” They can’t stand that information is now out of the silos. The format doesn’t matter much, it’s the direct to consumer firehose without the middle man that upsets them. One day… Read more »

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  JR Wirth
5 months ago

Old boomers are hard wired for cable news because their brains are too rotted out for something different.

Sure, because younger generations *definitely* aren’t in thrall to popular media.

It’s depressing to see so many of today’s comments mired in meaningless, moronic generational pigeon-holing with about as much validity as astrology.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Vizzini
5 months ago

Ouch! Boomer here. JR paints with a broad brush, but not totally without merit. As as you’ve noted, what Boomers are guilty of, I suspect follow-on generations will be guilty of themselves when they reach our age.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Compsci
5 months ago

I’m an impressionist like Van Gogh. And now that I’m involuntarily sequestered, I drink like him. I still shower though.

PatientZero
PatientZero
Reply to  JR Wirth
5 months ago

At least you have both ears. I think.

Whiskey
Whiskey
5 months ago

As you’ve alluded Z-Man, that discretionary super-chat stuff is going away with 30% to 50% unemployment. And no, there will not be UBI for everyone. As everyone knows, White people, particularly White men, are not eligible. Even then, 2K a month is not enough to live on for most people. Its $24,000 a year, which is poverty level in most places. THAT income means no car, no house, nothing but a crummy apartment in the vibrant part of town and a few meager possessions. No super chat spending there. It also means no streaming also, which means streaming will have… Read more »

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  Whiskey
5 months ago

A single can live on $24k a year and have a car as long as you don’t live in Bug territory.

In a reasonably unplugged based community of like-minded anti-Bugs, you could get by well on that.

For some napkin-math on the Amish for instance, they live well on a household income of between $50-$80k with a working husband, stay-at-home-mom and 8+ kids.

http://www.city-data.com/income/income-Lancaster-Pennsylvania.html

https://www.businessinsider.com/money-secrets-of-the-amish-2013-4?op=1

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-annual-income-of-the-average-household-within-the-Amish-community?share=1

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Exile
5 months ago

Are you willing to forgo most of the modernist offers like running water, electricity, Internet, cars ?

Didn’t think so.

Solutions like “live like the Amish. and breed’ are silly.

That said if big if you can find an income and avoid the druggies, not living in bug territory is cheaper.

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  abprosper
5 months ago

Are you saying ruralites in America live without internet, cars, running water or electricity? Rent in these communities is 1/2 what it is in urban areas if not less. A beater car costs $2k tops – less if you’re good at fixing them. Insurance < $50 a month. Gas is your highest expense.

Your point isn't even superficially valid.

"Don't breed" isn't an option and staying plugged into the system as an atomized individual means nothing changes.

If you have a better strategy, let's hear it.

Lawdog
Lawdog
Reply to  Exile
5 months ago

I hate the standard yuppie contention that bringing a child into the world is somehow an act of cruelty. Like they’re morally superior to you just because they’re eschewing a family.

Spare me your pussified self-exhonoration from your sacred duty (Unless you’re an illegal and this is your sixth anchor baby — then you definitely shouldn’t have another.). Why wouldn’t I want to live amidst even greater love and variation?

Gravity Denier
Gravity Denier
Reply to  Lawdog
5 months ago

No one, yuppie or any other variety of person, says that “bringing a child into the world is somehow an act of cruelty.” But many understand that having children should not be a feel-good act of self-indulgence. It has social consequences, for good and ill, and both need to be taken into account. Children are little miracles, but they can do the devil’s work (through no fault of their own) if they are brought into an overcrowded, overpopulated world, with no thought of the big picture. True, lots of pro-natalists have given up on society and civilization; for them children… Read more »

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  Gravity Denier
5 months ago

GD, Whites aren’t overpopulating, Browns are. The answer to that isn’t for Whites to stop reproducing. We’re the only race that on a group level really gives a damn about population, the environment or the future of “mankind” in any meaningful sense. More Us, Less Others. Which natalists have given up on “society and civilization?” Liberalism is not the end-all-be-all definition of either society or civilization. I’m saying give up on liberalism, not society or civilization on the whole. Folkish society is still society and it doesn’t have to be primitive or reactionary despite the superficial assumptions a lot of… Read more »

Gravity Denier
Gravity Denier
Reply to  Exile
5 months ago

I don’t understand “More Us, Less Others.” Are the browns and blacks going to throttle down their reproductive rates because they see whites adding to their own? Few of them will care or even realize it’s happening. These natalist bidding wars simply fuel an ever-exploding world population. That’s bad, even if a slightly larger percentage are whites. You are right. The insane growth of non-white groups is most to be feared. “The population in Africa is rapidly expanding, and by 2060 the region will hold an estimated 2.8 billion people,” says the World Bank. So why not concentrate efforts on… Read more »

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Gravity Denier
5 months ago

Oh, you’d be surprised how many say just those words about cruelty to bring a child into this world. Many an excuse to visit planned parenthood is given by this statement. It’s not the real reason, of course, but it’s the one they tell themselves to give them a rationalization for killing a child.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  BadThinker
5 months ago

You can toss in Obama’s statement that be didn’t want his daughter “punished” by having a child. Ghoulish.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Lawdog
5 months ago

You can come back and try your Praeger U trad con “kids” lecture sometime after the marriage system is fixed. It might make sense than.

Now I don’t think its a moral choice one way or another save for people who are unfit to raise children either from biology or behavior, in which case the best choice is to not have kids.

Outside of various religions I do not practice is no sacred duty to have children. In the secular world where I live its entire optional

Lawdog
Lawdog
Reply to  abprosper
5 months ago

I’m secular, too. But if something in this world is sacred, reproduction’s it. You don’t need marriage to make it work.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Lawdog
5 months ago

We will have to agree to disagree about reproduction.

In any case it kind of requires a decent income and a decent woman. Neither of which I have.

However if the USG goes full social credit like I think it might, 2k a month +2k per kid looks pretty good to me. I’ll go back to the deep West where I was raised, hunt up a wife and some extra work and maybe do that.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Exile
5 months ago

IMO things will change either after a collapse or by a bugaloo you win not by by having more children though admittedly future children might speed up either of those.

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  abprosper
5 months ago

AB, unless the collapse or bugaloo happens a lot faster than I expect, we’re going to need children to lift our new flags.

Tomorrow belongs to someone else if we don’t have kids, regardless of what our politics are.

T. Morris
T. Morris
Reply to  abprosper
5 months ago

abprosper: Interesting how different individuals presumably of significant like-mindedness can read the same comment (Exile’s) and interpret it in completely different ways. Only Exile knows precisely what he intended by giving the example of the Amish, but I personally didn’t take it that he meant ‘forgo running water, electricity, internet, cars,’ or necessarily any combination thereof. “Live like the Amish and breed.” Ha, ha. You’re funny. I lived and worked around, or near (more or less), “bug territory” for thirty years before deciding to return home to my roots and kith and kin. Early in my adulthood I didn’t think… Read more »

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  T. Morris
5 months ago

TM, you’re on target. I cited the Amish as an extreme example income-wise and a good group to harvest some strategies from, not a recommendation to imitate 100% of their lifestyle.

AB, people have kids and breed dogs. Referring to having kids as “breeding” sounds kinda odd, TBH.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Exile
5 months ago

Old habit. Sorry. I was a bit Anti Natal as a youngster.

I’m not that now but I’m highly introverted and to be honest I have essentially no interest in marriage or children, haven’t in years.

Hell I don’t even want a girlfriend as it fails costs benefit analysis. Its literally not worth the effort in time or money.

T. Morris
T. Morris
Reply to  abprosper
5 months ago

Well, it’s all a matter of one’s priorities coupled with his worldview, I suppose. Quite to the contrary of your assertions, I for one have found that it has been worth every penny and every effort expended (and then some) to have married early and raised a large family. And, no, I have never given up owning property, driving motorized vehicles, having running water and toilets that flush, or anything of the sort.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  T. Morris
5 months ago

Good for you. How old are you though? This was an easy road for Boomers even though they had a low TFR (selfish I guess) , somewhat harder for Gen X and fairly difficult for Gen Y. Again different strokes. I’m a bit odd in that I have some elements in common with the Malthusian Greens of the 80’s and 90’s before big money shut down the anti immigration factions. I don’t think the Earth can sustain more than a billion or two if we are wise thorough I want to see the European defended peoples to be at least… Read more »

UFO
UFO
Reply to  abprosper
5 months ago

Just because you don’t want kids and are a socially inept outcast, doesn’t mean you should encourage other whites to be the same way.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  UFO
5 months ago

Who says I am doing that? I’m a live and let live kind of guy. Also in my defense while my social skills could always use a bit of work most of them including “game” are decent. I don’t get much use of them or want to use them so I suppose “outcast” is true enough. That said while saving the White race is a noble goal as Keynes was famous for saying “In the long run we are all dead.” and that includes races, faiths and everything else. Again this is a philosophical difference. I don’t see the universe… Read more »

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  UFO
5 months ago

I had a much longer post that just reappeared ,but I’ll still sum up.

Not wanting to be part of something badly broken =/= socially inept. As I noted above social skills including game are decent.

I just stopped caring.

james wilson
james wilson
Member
Reply to  abprosper
5 months ago

The Amish do not save money by eschewing running water and electricity, which are cheap. It’s a lifestyle choice. They save money by not investing in capital equipment, but that too is a lifestyle choice. They live like any farmer in 1900 would live.

Exile
Exile
Member
5 months ago

All of this shows that media conglomerates are vastly net-negative. All their self-serving arglebargle about fact-checking, institutional integrity and deep concerns about echo chambers vs. the “marketplace of ideas” doesn’t justify letting less than a dozen mega-corps exercise the worldwide influence they do – all while raking in buckets of shekels to pour into the government-media-academia complex & Woke Capital social engineering. A legitimate government would trust-bust legacy media companies like AT&T, Disney, Comcast, Fox, CBS and Viacom and the Google-YouTube/Faceberg complex on the online-side. Given our lack of legitimate government, a grassroots’ media “slow-cleanse” means you stop supporting these… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Exile
5 months ago

You nailed it with, “real social interaction.”

What’s the one thing that the authorities seem to be terrified of permitting during this entire demented episode?

Real social interaction by shutting down places like restaurants, bars, churches, community centers, and trying to enforce this lunatic, “social distancing,” at the places that are open.

Why is that? Why are they so dead set against the man in the street having a friendly chat with Joe Sixpack?

This interview with the author Lionel Shriver touches on similar themes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6YYI7nPy-0

Yes, she sounds like a shitlib, but her attitude about WuFlu is quite based.

King Tut
King Tut
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
5 months ago

Lionel Shriver writes for the Guardian and, yes, she is a card-carrying shitlib in most things.

Anotheranon
Anotheranon
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
5 months ago

Thanks for the link! She had an interesting interview with Peter Whittle (“So What You’re Saying Is”) a couple months ago – regarding SJWs and identity politics, in 2 parts. She’s equal parts hilarious and cantankerous. She’s coming around, slowly but surely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS33UnCDhow

TomA
TomA
5 months ago

I haven’t watched TV in over a decade now, and I don’t miss it. However, I occasionally stay at a friend’s house when visiting the big city and cannot avoid some expose to regular television programming. As a result, I have to admit that I enjoy watching the local weather broadcasts. Most of these weather-casters are women who embody wholesome hotness and sound normal to boot. Perhaps there is still hope for the species.

T. Morris
T. Morris
5 months ago

Since Boomers are now deeply involved in the health care system, anything medical is going to be of utmost importance to everyone.

Yep. I’ve noted this before as well. Although I would slightly modify that statement to read “anything touted as medical,” etc. Who do people think were/are the ‘prime movers’ behind legalization of “medical marijuana” in “ultra-conservative” states like Oklahoma? The youth? I’ll take “Haight-Ashbury Rejects” for a thousand, Alex.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
5 months ago

OT:

Elon “It’s Just the Flu Bro” Musk is suing Alameda County and threatening to move Tesla out of California:

“This Is The Final Straw”: Elon Musk Melts Down, Says He’s Suing Alameda County & Moving Tesla Out Of California

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/final-straw-elon-musk-says-hes-suing-alameda-county-moving-tesla-texas-or-nevada

This Musk fella might be an alright dude after all…

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
5 months ago

“People will welcome a dunce into their home if he is fun at parties, but not invite the smart guy with the unpleasant demeanor.” Maybe the the smart guy isn’t so smart if he acts all the time like his dog just died. No one really likes downer people. Seriously they don’t. Look you don’t need to be a Davey Downer to talk about important issues or come off like a pretentious gas bag. Guys like Peterson,Tucker and Fuentes get this at some level. Carlson has to watch what he says because of who he works for. But he comes… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Rwc1963
5 months ago

“Carlson has to watch what he says because of who he works for. But he comes very close. Any farther he’d be a broke ass commentator on Unz. In general he does a better job at reaching Normies than our side who only preach to the converted.” Spot on. I used to consider Carlson a geeky cuckservative, in no small part because he was, but what a spectacular observer and voice he has become. He reaches Normies because he is a Normie, albeit one who started to notice. He eventually will be booted by the Neocons at Fox, but he… Read more »

abprosper
abprosper
5 months ago

Common media kind of requires people with things in common .

The industrial media period (30’s to maybe 95) seems like a long time but it was artificial even than its demise pushed along by immigration.

My take is the US is a B.S country held together by inertia so no reason to pretend we have a common culture.

Mark Stoval
Mark Stoval
5 months ago

I have known for decades that I am really out of step with “modern society”. After all, I would rather read a book than endure a podcast. I would much rather read today’s post by Z than listen to him. I just can read so much faster than people talk. And if I miss something I can go back and study it. As an example, since I don’t associate with idiots any more than I have to I just don’t know any Boomers that are afraid of the mild cold causing Corona. None. Hell, I have a letter from my… Read more »

T. Morris
T. Morris
Reply to  Mark Stoval
5 months ago

As an example, since I don’t associate with idiots any more than I have to I just don’t know any Boomers that are afraid of the mild cold causing Corona.

I know a few but, like you, I don’t associate with them. I’ve never associated with the type in any meaningful way. At least not for any length of time. It doesn’t take long for the discerning to figure out who the Karens and the Cucks are, even when they’re trying to hide that aspect of their natures. It always comes out sooner or later.

Chad Hayden
Chad Hayden
5 months ago

OT –

I’ve noticed a trend toward dudes getting bigger legs & butt. No homo, lol. Not referring to the natural aging process but to young guys, not fat, having wide hips and big butts. Of course hips come in all shapes and sizes but the narrow hipped man seems to be rare…this could something that’s been around for awhile or forever but it hasn’t been part of my paradigm. Curious what the older crowd has observed.

If it is a newer thing I’m curious what’s causing men’s hips to get wider.

Vegetius
Vegetius
Reply to  Chad Hayden
5 months ago

They all look like bowling pins to me. I don’t know what caused it. No upper body exertion? They look like the couldn’t break a lugnut loose even if they knew what a lugnut was. Those tight pants don’t help, either.

Feminine Men
Feminine Men
Reply to  Chad Hayden
5 months ago

Birth control residue, estrogen, and other chemicals in the water supply. Plenty of studies have shown the disturbing level of pharmaceuticals in the drinking water of major cities and suburbs. Rural guys on wells are, of course, safer.

Who knows, this contamination might be at least partly responsible for the trans madness:
https://www.livescience.com/20532-birth-control-water-pollution.html

The birth control pill may be the closest thing to a cyanide capsule that western civilization has ever taken.

Chad Hayden
Chad Hayden
Reply to  Feminine Men
5 months ago

FMen – I recall Heartiste had a thing about birth control in the water masculinizing women and feminizing men…it’s an interesting thought. I’ll have to re-visit…

Reynard
Reynard
Member
Reply to  Chad Hayden
5 months ago

I think everyone in this society, even critical guys, under-estimate the effect that pharmaceuticals have had on our society. Speaking as a true Millennial I can say that pretty much every woman I dated before my current girlfriend were on multiple pills. Birth control is a given, but “Anti-Anxiety pills” are about as prevalent. I definitely think it has a major effect on personality, and is wreaking havoc on society as a whole.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Reynard
5 months ago

I am convinced that the problem is fundamentally that women are being pushed into places that do not align with their natural inclinations (even if they’ve denied those inclinations to themselves), and so pills are then pushed on them to ‘fix’ this.

UFO
UFO
Reply to  Chad Hayden
5 months ago

They just don’t skip leg day.

Vegetius
Vegetius
5 months ago

There is still much to subvert via memes and political cartooning.

tz1
Member
5 months ago

There are more subtleties. The medium at least affects the message. A written piece can embed links (including to video!) and citations, etc. But the words are flat so don’t have the metadata audio does. A Podcast can shade things with expression (who is the modern Rich Little?). No one will type a citation. Video can show things at remote locations. Strange, but many video channels are just the talking head, and not even information in the background. Nor can you transpose. A very good blog has become mediocre as the author has taken to video. The videos aren’t as… Read more »

Guest
Guest
5 months ago

Video products are entertainment and can derive income in proportion to the audience it draws as entertainment. A written blog is not entertainment so it has to have a different value proposition. Steve Sailer is constantly begging for money because he has no idea what the value proposition for his writing is supposed to be, which is ironic because his background is in marketing. I don’t know that Steve Sailer has ever asked himself the fundamental question of why his readers should pay him for his writing? The moral of the Steve Sailer story is that if you are going… Read more »

Lawdog
Lawdog
5 months ago

Even your family effs with you.

Fiance’s mom: Are we SURE we want to move to the south? *I* just have nothing in common with these racists. (Upon reading a boilerplate goodwhite gun violence article.)

Thankfully, I have been somewhat successful in denormifying my woman. “Uh, ma, I’m pretty sure not everybody in the south is racist. Also, aren’t you kind of racist?”

I would have been a little more aggressive, but it’s good she said something.

Chad Hayden
Chad Hayden
Reply to  Lawdog
5 months ago

Way to go man! Hopefully she’s able to find like-minded friends. It’s hard to keep a woman on the wagon if her friends aren’t.

Nunnya Bidnez, jr
Nunnya Bidnez, jr
Reply to  Lawdog
5 months ago

are you bringing your mother in law with you when you move south?
any reason she can’t / won’t stay up north?

Lawdog
Lawdog
Reply to  Nunnya Bidnez, jr
5 months ago

She’s not living with us, but there’s a possibility she’ll want to follow her daughter into Dixie after empty nest syndrome sets in.

We’ll stick her in a very blue state if we must. I love her, but I don’t like her. Addicted to NPR. One of the nurse heroes.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Lawdog
5 months ago

The only important question is if she will babysit the young ones. So long as she doesn’t attempt to impose her shitlib values.

sirlancelot
sirlancelot
5 months ago

Perhaps off topic, but the comment about Boomers controlling the media made me think of something Euro friends have mentioned. They always ask why Americans have such a fascination with high school ?

I tell them it’s just old people reminiscing. They’ve talked to other yanks and get the impression high school was the pinnacle of their existence and now life is a daily mundane slog . Just another day closer to the grave.

UFO
UFO
Reply to  sirlancelot
5 months ago

Agreed. I never understood the infatuation Boomers have with high school and college. High school was ok, I was a loser but had fun drinking with my buddies. The boomers told me that college would be the best time of my life. People are so mature and friendly in college! Crazy parties, girls, bla bla. Anyways people are just as shitty in college. College was also okay but it was nothing like what the Boomers or media portray as the “typical” party experience. Mostly just did my homework. Started getting laid which is nice. Most of the party people now… Read more »

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  UFO
5 months ago

High School Never Ends is the Boomer mantra. College, for those few Boomers that went – many did not.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
5 months ago

you failed to mention a distinction between at least the audio and written platforms. Unless I’m mistaken the comprehension of the reader or listener appropriately as much greater with the written word then hearing something spoken. I don’t know how this would relate to video. My guess is that video is worst of all since the brain is distracted by processing vision. this would also explain why media people like you barely get by, because you are mostly written word and people don’t like to be made to think. And I at least contribute enough to pay the electric bill… Read more »

Tax Slave
Tax Slave
5 months ago

Remind you of anyone you might know?
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Clayton Barnett
5 months ago

Had an echo of this a few hours ago, watching ep6 of “Wave… Listen to Me!” an anime about talk radio. The studio manager declared “TV is passive! The viewers take it all in! In radio, make them happy, they call and message. Piss them off, they call and message. We win!”

Isn’t that a factor as to why you pod and not video cast, Z?

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
5 months ago

A total side topic. The GOP once again hitches its wagon to a magic negro star, only to find an uppity backhand. He won’t call Trump out on spending that would make LBJ, FDR or any other President look like an ultra-conservative. That’s the real “call out.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/09/republican-candidate-john-james-willing-to-call-out-donald-trump-244989#superComments

GOP Sucks Black Cock
GOP Sucks Black Cock
Reply to  JR Wirth
5 months ago

Conservative Inc’s sucking of the black cock really is embarrassing and shameful. You can suck the black dick all you want, Matt Walsh, but the left will never accept you!
https://www.amren.com/commentary/2020/05/conservatives-make-fools-of-themselves-over-arbery-shooting/

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
5 months ago

Off topic field report: Street party in my little red Western town. Two singers, a pianist, a drummer, and a guy who alternated between acoustic guitar and bass. I’d guess over 200 people

“Hold on Loosely” and “Old Time Rock and Roll” got 70 middle aged dancers to block traffic. “You Shook Me” had 50 people doing country line dancing in the street.

The middle aged ladies are gettin’ down. Good times!

No masks. All white except for one Filipina wife. Beautiful community.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  LineInTheSand
5 months ago

The environment in which white women shake their stuff is of enormous significance. The difference between shaking your stuff to Bob Seger, for example, versus some gansta rap is incalculable.

(I am sympathetic with the stern traditionalist who asks, “Why are we allowing white women to ‘shake their stuff’ at all?”)

KGB
KGB
Reply to  LineInTheSand
5 months ago

I suppose, but does any grounded husband want to see his wife shaking her stuff in public? Does a child along the right path want to see mom shaking her stuff in public?

history_nazi
history_nazi
5 months ago
LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
5 months ago

Z, they’re playing your intro song with a few vibrant, yet surprisingly wholesome, variations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JR3uz8rq4ng

Walt
Walt
5 months ago

Is anybody else freaked out by the sheer volume that Z is putting out these days? Lockdown has him putting out double the amount per essay. Not complaining, but I need another cup of tea as I meditate over his work…

Mark Stoval
Mark Stoval
Reply to  thezman
5 months ago

I’m glad you enjoy what you are doing so much, as I enjoy your posts a lot. But, I do hope that going full speed like you are will not cause “burn out” like it has for so many others.

I sometimes think successful bloggers are those who just survived long term.

Hang in there Z. We don’t always agree, but I always enjoy your stuff. Not bad for a young guy. 🙂

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Mark Stoval
5 months ago

I find that disagreement with Z-man often means for me that the seed planted has not yet had time to germinate.

jwm
jwm
5 months ago

I guess I’m something of an exception.
I’m a techno-luddite. No television in the house, no radio, and I use a flip phone, but only as a walkie-talkie in case of an emergency. I do like my desktop, though. I dislike video. I don’t like to sit passively and watch, or listen. Even if the speaker is good, I just get fidgetty after a couple minutes. If someone takes the time to write it out I’ll return the effort with my attention. Reading engages my mind, and holds my attention. Watching doesn’t.

JWM

bilejones
Member
Reply to  jwm
5 months ago

Agree.
You can pack more information. background and nuance into a couple of sentences than ten minutes of video gibbering.

greyenlightenment
5 months ago

These ppl are making a killing with streaming videos. So much for that media narrative of people not having money due to virus.

Mop
Mop
5 months ago

I once suggested you add some sort of crypto address for donations, you shrugged it off as if it’s some hard work and not worth the effort. Say what you want, but at least these live streamers make the effort to collect their smackers.