The following is a fictional transcript of a negotiation between white people and black people in America over reparations. Representing black people in the negotiations is Nikole Hannah-Jones, a staff writer for New York Times magazine. She is the creator of the 1619 Project, which is an ongoing blood libel against white people. Representing white people of America is the typical white person, who has tried in good faith for generations to figure out how to include blacks in civil society.
White Person: Thank you for agreeing to begin this dialogue. Having read your latest, uh, column on reparations, we, and by “we” I mean white people, have decided that it is time to think about reparations. While we in no way accept the claim that modern whites owe modern blacks anything for the alleged crimes of our ancestors, in the furtherance of peace between the races, we are open to discussing reparations.
Nikole Hannah-Jones: Yes, well, as I said in my post, if true justice and equality are ever to be achieved in the United States, the country must finally take seriously what it owes black Americans. It is time for this country to pay its debt. It is time for reparations.
WP: Presumably, when you say “the country” you mean white people. You don’t expect Asians, newly arrived Africans and Native Americans to be part of this.
NHJ: I don’t understand.
WP: What don’t you understand?
NHJ: I don’t understand what “presumably” means.
WP: Oh, I see. Well, I’m here to speak on behalf of white people. I cannot obligate Asians or newly arrived Africans, or Arabs or anyone else to reparations. You mentioned white people 197 times in your column. You mentioned black people 179 times. Asians, Jews, Native Americans, Arabs and so on were mentioned zero times, so this is about blacks and whites, correct?
NHJ: That’s right. As I said in my piece, generations of white violence against black bodies has to be addressed. There can be no peace until white people accept what they owe to black people. Going back to the very beginning….
WP: I don’t mean to cut you off, but I read your piece and I have read all the other stuff in the 1619 project. Like all white people, I have grown up hearing the long list of grievances of black people. That’s why I’m here. We agree. It is time to negotiate a settlement in order to get racial peace.
NHJ: It has been more than 150 years since the white planter class last called up the slave patrols and deputized every white citizen to stop, question and subdue any black person who came across their paths in order to control and surveil a population who refused to submit to their enslavement. It has been 150 years since white Americans could enforce slave laws that said white people acting in the interest of the planter class would not be punished for killing a black person….
WP: Okay, okay, I got it. I read the piece, a few times, in fact. If all you’re going to do here is recite from the list of grievances, then we are wasting our time. I’m here to talk about reparations.
NHJ: If black lives are to truly matter in America, this nation must move beyond slogans and symbolism. Citizens don’t inherit just the glory of their nation, but its wrongs too. A truly great country does not ignore or excuse its sins. It confronts them and then works to make them right. If we are to be redeemed, if we are to live up to the magnificent ideals upon which we were founded, we must do what is just.
WP: Yes, well, that’s fine, but can you tell us what you mean by pay its debts? I’ve read all of your work. I’ve read Ta-Nahesi Coates on the subject of reparations. What seems to be missing is the dollar figure.
NHJ: As I said in my piece, generations of white violence against black bodies has to be addressed. There can be no peace until white people accept what they owe to black people….
WP: Right, I’ll stipulate that. In fact, without qualification, I’ll stipulate to all of the claims in your work. What I’m here to discuss is reparations. What number do we put on the check to make black people whole? What is the debt you expect us to pay?
NHJ: As I said in my piece, until white people atone for their crimes against black people and pay their debt…
WP: Hold up, I just said we will stipulate to all of that.
NHJ: I don’t know what you mean by “stipulate”, but white people need to accept their debt to black people. As I wrote in my piece…
WP: Sorry to cut you off again, but that’s what stipulate means. We agree to all the claims made in your work and in the work of others. We’re not here to debate it or hear another recitation of it. We are here to negotiate the check.
NHJ: Check?
WP: Yes. The check. We are prepared to write every descendant of slaves, even those of mixed race, a check. We’ll pay the debt you feel you are owed.
NHJ: I don’t think a check can cover the pain of 150 years of suffering…
WP: Okay, then what else do you want? Land, like a black homeland? A ride to the airport? What? Tell me what we have to do to close the books on this.
NHJ: As I said in my piece, until white people atone for their crimes against black people and pay their debt…
WP: I got it. We all get it. That’s why we’re here. What do you want from us?
NHJ: We want justice.
WP: Fine. What does that mean? What do we need to do in order for you to have justice? If it is not a check, then what is it.
NHJ: We still want the check.
WP: Okay, how much. What’s the number?
NHJ: But it can’t just be a check. White people have to atone for the crimes they have committed against black bodies…
WP: Look. I’m starting to lose my patience. We agree to all of that. What we want to know is what we have to do, in specific terms, in order for you people to believe you have justice and to believe the debt is paid. If it is not a check, then what is it?
NHJ: As I said in my piece, financial restitution cannot end racism, of course, but it can certainly mitigate racism’s most devastating effects. If we do nothing, black Americans may never recover from this pandemic, and they will certainly never know the equality the nation has promised.
WP: Okay, so what you are saying is there can never be reparations, as there is no way for you to ever feel you have been repaid. Reparations means the making of amends for a wrong one has done, by paying money to or otherwise helping those who have been wronged. It sounds to me like you will never forgive whites, much less allow whites to make amends, so what are you asking?
NHJ: We want what we were promised.
WP: Okay, what were you promised and who promised it to you?
NHJ: The civil rights movement ostensibly ended white advantage by law. And in the gauzy way white Americans tend to view history, particularly the history of racial inequality, the end of legal discrimination, after 350 years, is all that was required to vanquish this dark history and its effects. Changing the laws, too many Americans have believed, marked the end of the obligation.
WP: I see. You don’t really want reparation. What you want is a raise. You want to live on the guilt of modern white people forever, but with the condition you get to demand a raise every generation. In fact, there can never be peace, as that would mean no more raises and maybe no more white guilt. After all, if we feel we paid our debts to you, we have no reason to keep paying you.
What you really want is tribute. I think I can speak for the majority of white people and say we would rather have the Dane. At least with him the issue was clear.
NHJ: I don’t understand.
WP: We know.
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I remember an old saying that went, “Never argue with an insane person.”
It still holds true.
It’s a mad world that paints white people as the conquerer and expects us to pay tribute. I can’t imagine the brain cells people spend living in such a mental prison.
We are not there yet, nor will we ever be. Quote from John Wayne:
“With a lot of blacks, there’s quite a bit of resentment along with their dissent, and possibly rightfully so. But we can’t all of a sudden get down on our knees and turn everything over to the leadership of the blacks. I believe in white supremacy until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility. I don’t believe in giving authority and positions of leadership and judgment to irresponsible people.”
And if the best blacks we’ve been able to come up with have been Colin Powell and Barack Obama, I’d say Wayne is still correct today.
Some local black pastors in days past were very effective in keeping their communities stable. Now they’ve been replaced by race hustlers and grievance-mongers.
Both of whom were most certainly full of white DNA.
Yep. Outside of sports and rap, most highly successful blacks have plenty of cream in their coffee.
He’s a goof frequently but Kanye West is capable of running just about any enterprise. I actually have worked with him and was skeptical until I couldn’t be based on the facts presented. We’ll get the extremely rare outlier now and then, say, one in 50-100 million black lives.
Yeah at least the Boers got rid of the nukes. Not happening here
I don’t wish nukes in the hands of any intellectually challenged people. However, applied to the USA, they would be all but useless against Whites in a race war scenario. Big cities in the USA are a thing of the past. Butt that wouldn’t rule out Crips vs. Bloods now with thermonuclear weapons! And using nukes to target small, distributed relatively independent enclaves is as practical as killing a mosquito with an elephant gun. No, a future, dumber, darker USA would present more of a danger to (and from) foreign powers. A major nuclear war would probably disproportionately kill people… Read more »
Dude, the US nuke arsenal is down to around 4000 warheads from a peak of over 30,000 warheads. Most of our nukes are at least 30 years old, and we have not tested a nuke since 1991. It’s likely that very few, if any, actually still work. The US is a paper tiger in the nuke game.
We are now in a multi year, trillion+ dollar program to upgrade the arsenal. I doubt if we have too many duds—as vs decommissioned warheads. This upgrade program began under Obama and if I read between the lines, includes making tactical nukes of a few hundred kiloton capacity—not a good sign. Anyway, arsenal reduction began under Bush the younger. Not herd a 30k figure, but reportedly Bush was told 15k. His surprise was noted—“What the hell we need that many for”. He was correct, we don’t need that many. Even the Chinese are said to have only a couple of… Read more »
“Upgrade” is a stretch at this time. Almost all spending in this program has gone to build out facilities that were either repurposed or fell into disrepair over the past 30 years. The program has not produced a single new “battle ready” nuke to date and won’t produce any battle ready new nukes until at least 2024, which in government-speak means at least 2030. The Plutonium core triggers for our nukes have a design life of 20 years. We stopped making them in any quantity about 30 years ago, when the Rocky Flats plant outside Boulder got shut down by… Read more »
The right may have to consider a campaign to sabotage and destroy the United States sometime in the future. Imagine the hatred the left currently has towards Russia, which is partly based on race, directed towards all Europeans. Will this POC empire demand the French tear down the Eiffel Tower and burn the Louvre? Will they turn this empire’s war machine on the continent and attack it for “white supremacy”?
Western civilization is now synonymous with white supremacy. And because the AWRs seek to eliminate white supremacy, you’d have to be a complete idiot not to see what the end game is here.
Yep, that’s why, in a post in the weekend thread, I proposed that we start making 3D scans of statues that are likely to be targeted by the Left but ultimately expand the project to include all of Western high culture. The people we’re dealing with certainly will burn the Louvre if they can. Fortunately it looks like Europeans are finally waking up to the threat of the swarthy hordes and the US is destroying itself so fast now that by the time it’s totally run by people like Ilhan Omar, the warlord guy from CHAZ, and BLM, it won’t… Read more »
A very good idea regarding the statues. What worries me is the fact that most of America’s great museums are in vibrant metro areas. It’s only a matter of time before the Hutus and ANTIFAGS begin pillaging and destroying those. The lost artworks will be irreplaceable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikole_Hannah-Jones
Ms. Hannah-Jones has a white mother and grew up in mostly white Iowa. She’s one of those insecure, peevish mulattoes who’s always trying to prove their blackness.
The mulatoes are always the most militant. Probably a combination of lack of identity and slightly higher IQ from the Euro genes.
Future V-P candidate Susan Rice comes to mind.
I can remember a similar point being made in the alternate post-WW2 history novel Fatherland (1992).
One of the police investigators tasked with ferreting out secret Jews and others of mixed-race was barely considered Aryan under the race laws because the Reich correctly understood that someone with a borderline identity in the role would be utterly fanatical about ferreting out problem elements.
Fresh converts to Islam are similarly fanatical because they know it is the fastest way to earn street cred with the rest of the Ummah.
Borderline Mixed=Fanatic.
You have just described Rheinhard Heydrich.
look at his picture, and no he doesn’t look like Kenneth Branaugh, not at all.
That’s cause mulattoes know they can take control of large mass of dark skinned blacks & become the new ruling class.
Not in Haiti , they were all genocided. I actually think Hatian Whites might have done better by any measure a White guy living in Haiti could claim anyway.
This is a real problem and should be a warning to whites about intermixing. Two unhappy parties here, the mulatto and the us.
Heck, even the hapa children of White and Asian parents seem to experience more than a normal share of identity and mental issues.
Derbyshire’s half-breed kids seem to be doing well enough. Or at least you’d expect a world class racist like him to complain if they weren’t 😀
Ben. All joking aside. There are mixed race children and there are mixed race children. Not race all mixtures are conducive to societal calm. Black mixtures seem the worse. That’s not Derbyshire’s situation.
I’ve had buddies both Mulatto and Hapa and they were both miserable.
Both being smart guys, they were more White than Other in behavior and preferences but this didn’t do a thing to increase happiness.
A man without a tribe is alone in the world and while and entire nation of Mullatos or whatever might be OK , they wouldn’t fit anywhere else.
Its actually sad as both these guys were decent people and pretty American too. They deserved better but the only way to avoid the damage is to stick to one’s own folk.
Hapa children do very well. They usually belong to stable families and are well-liked in the classroom and office. They provide an excellent opportunity for suburban whites to interact with someone not 100% white and without a chip on their shoulder. The odd-bods we see usually have white dads who are self-loathing of their own race. This is a very small minority.
Even if true its still a terrible idea.
No decent person would destroy his or her history culture and genetic legacy by mixing with people who were not their own.
Walt – untrue. There are numerous hapa fora where they vent their rage and frustration at being neither fish nor fowl. They resent their White dads and consider their Asian mothers whores. Others go the super-Asian route, just as Mulattoes go the super black route, since they’ll never be truly White. A significant number of them are not half White, but half Jewish, which adds yet another layer of resentment and identity confusion. Derb’s own daughter is a supporter of Obama and the multicult and resents Whites. Add in all the Asians women (and these are Asian, not subcontinental women)… Read more »
Derb’s daughter hates whites? Did not know that. I know he said his wife votes Democrat but where the heck did you hear about his daughter?
The problem isn’t the talking monkey – it’s the organ grinder !
We often lose sight of that. Who really has the whip hand here?
Agree entirely with you, Lurker, and with David W. Even if the imaginings about an Exodus back to Africa were to materialize, the resulting America would still include a significant population of Whites and others who simply wish dispossession and humiliation upon the country. They are the Enemy that uses blacks as shock troops, totems of virtue, and (as currently in the riots) ideological “human shields.”
If we shipped all our Blacks to Africa, African nations would sue us in the United Nations 😀
If we’d simply let the South secede… well, one can daydream.
lol yes it’s the organ grinder…who ain’t shit once the pretense and the monkey are gone…
You had to mention that! Here’s a joke (warning! don’t read if you’re Italian)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/3zydz0/italian_monkey/
OMG that is a hell of a good phrase. I need to remember it.
Very well said
Am I the only one able to make up/down votes?
Any reparation check should only be in the form of a one-way ticket out of the country, a small start over stipend, and a forever revocation of US citizenship. Are any listening to the invitation from Ghana?
You can vote as much as you like, it just doesn’t make any difference (just like in the real world!!!) 😀 Actually, it is probably a bug with the web site. I even gave you an upvote, it shows, but diappears when I reload the page.
Has there been any explanation as to why we can no longer record upvotes?
I’d happily pay 10% of my pre-tax income as reparations forever if it meant I never, ever had to see another jogger again. fWIW.
That’s been my position for some time. I’d happily pay ANY amount in “reparations,” provided the check came with a one-way ticket to Ghana. What else do you want? A “homeland”? Sure! I would happily give you my house, and everything in it, free gratis, provided we could surround it with a huge concrete wall and a nuclear minefield. So long as I can mark “paid” in the ledger and file any future correspondence under “not my problem,” I’ll pay anything. I know I am not alone in this.
How very kind of you. They have considered and rejected your offer. Write the check, bigot!
Oh, I have one more counter-offer – the Don Corleone kind. The relevant numbers are “63%” and “13%.” But nobody wants that.
Not enough want that…Yet…
We will hem and haw and engage in half-measures…until unfortunately for all it does come to that.
It’ll bounce as Y/T is been bankrupted too. To what Yves said, its already happening. I know people who were last year civic nationalists and anti racists (in the Right Wing sense not the college boy sense) who are mulling on those 14 words. As Selco noted a society can go from “getting along pretty good.” to all out genocide in an instant and with the various levels of government in the US having auto delegitimizing themselves and Great Depression 2 under way, its like a building ful of paint soaked rags sharing a floor with a match factory. If… Read more »
How much to send the goodwhites packing with the pocs? I dont want to see them either.
Goodwhites are still White – they’ll quickly end up running everything in New Wakanda, then we’re worse off than before. A more… Maoist… solution is called for in the case of those traitors.
A more… Maoist… solution is called for in the case of those traitors…
which is why we need Tar Baby and his …her…endless distractions out of the way.
We YT are overdue a conversation with Gudwhites anyway…Tar Baby is just a distraction, and in the way…
From the point of view of Goodwhites and Jews, Tar Baby is not in the way, any more than the line of pawns is in the way of the queen or the bishop. Much more than any other racial group, his responses are predictable and can be easily controlled. When the Anglo-Jewish elite needs cover for something nefarious they want to do to Badwhites, they deploy their line of black pawns. This is why Floydmania got rolling just as the Coronathon would have been naturally fizzling and leaving a lot of very angry people looking right at the elite for… Read more »
I think they’re on the 2016 playbook, or at least the Dems are…blood in the primary season for the Blacks to get their vote out, move ‘center’ whatever that is for General. Of course to them the Center now is Ta-Hesi Coates, so it’s difficult to tell. The alternative explanation is the elites have lost control of their pets, and their own narrative. Remember Bethesda MD, where the Federal Govt lives went out and ritually knelt. > once you kneel, you really don’t have power anymore. That which you knelt to has power, and that’s the power in the Democratic… Read more »
“America” is now Africanized in most ways. And it is quickly becoming a black supremacist state. White elites prostrating themselves before the savages is symbolic of those facts.
I misread that as “there simply must be at least a chapter 13”
Well, a Chapter 7 from the Enablers, at least.
I tend to agree — it feels like there are at least one or two more shoes to drop before the election. We haven’t had a good outrage in more than a week now, something has to be brewing.
I’m wondering if the Ghislaine Maxwell trial is going to be the thing. Assuming they don’t just kill her, it’s possible that she could implicate so much of the super-elite in pedophilia that politics could go completely off anyone’s narrative chain into chaos. Also, Kanye West may be serious about running. Either of these things could be the distraction that get’s them through the election season. Finally, there’s also the potential chaos at the party conventions next month. There also might now be multiple elite factions fighting to control the Next Shoe to drop. The media liars may not know… Read more »
That ship sailed about a year ago. So many billionaires bought up so much land for their bolt holes that the NZ govt banned real estate purchases by non citizens. I suppose there could still be leasing arrangements…
They dont get off easy with a check and a new homeland. They have debts outstanding to me and mine and I expect satisfaction.
They will suffer, don’t worry about that, they’re just a bunch of useful idiots for the elites.
They have no allies any longer, every community of minorities hates them at this point. Most citizens of USA don’t want anything to do with them.
You are already paying 10% of your income to support joggers, not including AA make work, cops, prisons, and quality of life penalties for avoiding them.
Right, and I’m not getting anything in return. Let’s bump it up to a 100% one-time payment, but really get something this time! They seemed to have settled on Texas as the territory they want. So be it… provided the big beautiful wall gets built around it first.
Apparently each black costs the government 7000 dollars each year.
Der Jahghertax, nein?
Pardon me, but… fuck you, Nikole. I don’t owe you a thing. I am not paying nig geld.
It’s ALWAYS just another way to say/get revenge.
If these same morons were actual victims of anything they claimed to be victims of, maybe I could begin to understand but this is all basically disphoria.
This is a very real conversation, not just tongue in cheek. Behind the attempted debate are two worldviews: 1) Western Civ and its bedrock philosophy of logic, order, and objectivity, and 2) Marxism and its shifting philosophies of Gramsci and Frankfurt School critical theory and dialectics. As Z-man makes clear, dialogue is impossible with #2 adherents. Worldview #1 thought they could coexist with the #2 mob, because at first they just asked for “toleration.” Then toleration morphed into celebration, which has recently morphed into “worship us.” Now the #1 folk are starting to get it … the #2 mob doesn’t… Read more »
Yes, and we need our own country back.
Give Tar Baby lands of their own, the answer is Partition.
Then we can have our internal convos with the Organ Grinders and the gu-YT
I think of the Gramsci and Frankfurt School types more as a kind of dialectical antithesis to Western thinking themselves. As such they can’t really work their dark magic without having the Western tradition to play off of and corrupt. They take advantage of the well meaning attempts of Western liberals to hear out their supposed grievances and deal rationally with them by immediately changing the complaint to some new focus once the original ones have been dealt with. You see this most obviously in the way the Left has pivoted, in the last 40 years, from wanting a “color… Read more »
Z’s dialogue captures a truth that I try to convey to my normie conservative friends: Non-whites are never going to be satisfied with some sort of good-hearted or high-dollar gesture. They want perpetual tribute, if not eventual conquest.
The difficulty of my position is that there is no irrefutable way to prove my prediction. I have family members whom I can see are hoping that their good intentions will finally be recognized and rewarded with an end to racial strife. No one can foretell the future, but I see nothing but endless hatred.
Correct, sir.
Modern conflicts often seem different from historical ones to me. I was thinking about the contrast between the American Revolutionary War and the current demand from BLM. The Revolutionary War was ultimately fought over certain very definitive issues (excessive taxation, taxation without representation in Parliament, etc…) Could these grievances have been resolved peacefully? Who knows? Maybe not. Nonetheless, no one was really in doubt about what they were. Modern movements of “social justice”, including BLM, feminism, polygenderism, etc… seem to make demands that are either enormously broad, incoherent, or both. The frustrating circularity of the “negotiations” in Z’s interview illustrates… Read more »
The model is holocaust reparations. Who do you think trained the AA’s? They (holocaust reparations), also, will never end, have morphed into multigenerational payments.
I don’t know man. I support reparations. For 14 trillion of money that doesn’t really exist, we can give blacks 350,000 dollars each. The amount of frivolous purchases and gloating by blacks should be enough to send racial tensions into the stratosphere.
If we wait long enough the Hispanics will kill them for us.
Buy Nike stock,
And in 20 years they’ll be in the same place they started.
20 years?
it wouldn’t last the weekend.
How much does a Bentley cost?
If that ever happened you may as well open Cadillac/BMW/Bentley dealership that also sells a full line of rimz that includes dubz and spinnaz as well as grillz.
Speaking of the Hispanics, where have they been in this whole mess? Other than the local gangs protecting their neighborhoods from joggers with violence they have not made much noise in a political or strategic sense.
I used to think the BMW 700 series sedan basically says “I’m a filthy rich son of a bitch, but low-key enough so I don’t rub it in your face.” Until I saw a lilac-purple one with fancy rims. I’m not sure it was owned by a pimp, couldn’t see the driver, but what are the odds? 🙂
Bavarianisher Machen schies Wagen. Its POS.
Count up the trillions spent on Great Society. Quantify the set asides, the 8-H housing, minority-owned business perks, school breakfasts and lunches, along with multiple revenue streams of free money. Add to that the tens of millions of affirmative action decisions that displaced higher qualified people. Add on the tax that all of us suffer in dealing with chip-on-the-shoulder, belligerent blacks.
Reparations have been paid in full. The only thing they want now is for whitey to bow, scrape and worship at their 1619 altar.
What they want is for history and culture to be fully patterned on affirmative action. What they don’t realize is that it already is.
Sorry Z-man, I just can’t read the words of these black bitches even if it was fake. I did skim over the article looking for the 22 Trillion dollars spent on the “war on poverty” and “great society” programs. Then there is the black privilege of quotas and set-asides and on and on and on. We have babied these black thugs long enough. It is time to get rid of them. By whatever means necessary. I was educated as forced busing began. I did not experience it as it was “behind me” in grade level. As a teacher I saw… Read more »
It’s still a great opportunity for us. For one it sets blacks apart and pits them against whites. Which they already are but many whites don’t realize it. Second it gets whites thinking about what life would be like without blacks. Thinking about what they would be willing to pay to be free of their problems.
You have a point, I acknowledge. But at some point in time violence will be the only answer. I suggest that from our point of view — the sooner the better. We are becoming an ever smaller portion of the population in this country.
If there is a redoubt of “White privilege” in the country it is surely its elite educational institutions. Harvard, Yale, Princeton should be shamed into becoming all-Black universities. They already recognize the principle of discrimination in admissions to rectify past injustice, so there would be no legal objection to mount. They are the authors of the current ideology of racial grievance, so there should be no moral one either. They are wealthy beyond the dreams of avarice, so they could give free rides to students for the duration: say, something between a decade and a generation. Exclusive access for blacks… Read more »
Many of these fine universities already find themselves surrounded by the target demographic. I would suggest to just save time, that they invite all comers to help themselves to freely offered money and property on campus. They’ll be free to help themselves to the girls, burn down buildings, topple statues of possible racists and generally enjoy themselves.
I think the Ivies would actually like to do this. Yale may be changing its name and Princeton expunged Woodrow Wilson from its public policy center. The AWRs who run these schools have absolutely no logical or moral defense against their wholesale reconfiguration as Afrocentric entities. The problem is that they would go broke within 20 years. Blacks don’t have the capital or the altruistic inclinations to bankroll elite universities. Without the vast sums traditionally donated by white, Jewish and Oriental alums, the Ivies would go belly up. And that is the only reason they won’t follow the logic of… Read more »
What you describe, Ostei, is precisely why they must be made to do what I prescribe. We would be well rid of them.
Also, it would rob White libs of their most cherished institutions. Humiliate them in a way they can’t even complain about. It’s past time to go on offense against them, force them to choke on their own B.S.
Balance of terror is the only sure path to enduring peace.
Yep.
Now hold on there, Hoss. You do NOT speak for ‘White people’ if you give slavery reparations any sort of serious consideration. The logistics alone are impossible to sort out. Are the hordes of recent arrivals from south of the border ‘Whites’? Perhaps we should ask them for their views on what it is that they allegedly ‘owe’ the descendants of our former farm implements. And what about jews? Are they ‘White’ enough to owe dark-skinned types the Danegeld? Last I knew, they were still after their own tribute for certain events that may or may not have happened near… Read more »
The point is that *even* if you agree with everything they say about wanting ‘reparations’, there can never be reparations, because they will never be satisfied. Arguing about whether you owe them anything or not is beside the point – they want tribute, now, and forever, just for existing.
Word, BT.
That, and the ledger is entirely one sided. We never gave them anything and they never got any benefit to being born in America.
It’s like the credit card company only recording purchases you made and completely ignoring your payments.
Good job missing the point.
There is another point to be made as well: the actual position of Mx. Hanna-Jones is that slavery is perfectly moral, they just object to not being the slavers. Anyone earnestly arguing for Joggergeld can only do so by accepting that heritable chattel slavery is moral. They do not want peace and harmony, they want to enslave us and wear our civilization as a skinsuit.
If you can communicate the above rationale to another YT, you have thrown them into the river od the great divide, and they can come over here or drown.
Say “Joggergeld” with a Norwegian “Y”- it’ll bring a smile to your face.
What’s your point, though? You think you can have an intelligent — White — discourse outwitting blacks who support reparations? You think you can convince them to look at the facts of the matter and conclude that we don’t owe them anything? You can’t. Modern political discourse is about emotion; it’s not about reason. Any kind of serious discussion on the subject will ultimately lead to blacks getting reparations because your side is weak and their side is not. Your side is filled with upper-class guys like David French who are more than happy to throw you guys under the… Read more »
That WAS the point – there can be no logical discourse on this or any subject between Whites and joggers.
Nice attempt at a Breitbart-esque deflection. It has absolutely nothing to do with slavery or picking cotton or Jim Crow or anything else they say it’s about. Reparations are not about the past, they are about the present. If the Breitbartians were right in the 60s, blacks would be indistinguishable from Whites on just about every metric, except to the extent they were better off than whites due to things like affirmative action. If that were the case, there would be no discussion about reparations. Anyone who tells you reparations are about slavery or anything else in the past is… Read more »
To further muddy the waters, what do we do about Free Negroes that owned slaves? 😀 Are White indentured servants owed reparations?
The old joke is that the best kind of doctor to be is a dermatologist, because your patient never gets totally better and they rarely die (at which point they’re an oncologist’s problem, not yours). So someone like this woman or Coates can best be viewed as…”dermatologists” would be too kind a word, so how about vampires who occasionally notice that the wound is scabbing and needs to be rubbed raw again to get the blood to flow once more? Demographic change of course means that they’re going to have to fight to feast on the incapacitated body of the… Read more »
What is it you want us to do….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Rw5MosKRm4
Yes, they just can’t deliver on it.
Even revolutions need you to show up sober.
Yes, but you may quaff from the bottle “liberated” from the homes of the Burgeous (does anyone know how to spell it?) or the stores of the Capitalist Pigs 😀
Ah used too be able to spell Bourgeois, but ah’m goin full wignaht to meet expectations.
[not yours sir]
I remember that from Paul Kersey’s site in the old days. That would be a great meme. BLM’s simple demand of white people: Die.
The problem isn’t gibs. The problem is as long as we exist they will always see themselves as inferior. This is what eats away at them in spite of all the adulation thrown their way through the sports and entertainment industry. This is why separation is the only solution.
“Western man towers over the rest of the world in ways so large as to be almost inexpressible. It’s Western exploration, science, and conquest that have revealed the world to itself. Other races feel like subjects of Western power long after colonialism, imperialism, and slavery have disappeared. The charge of racism puzzles whites who feel not hostility, but only baffled good will, because they don’t grasp what it really means: humiliation. The white man presents an image of superiority even when he isn’t conscious of it. And, superiority excites envy. Destroying white civilization is the inmost desire of the league… Read more »
“The problem is as long as we exist they will always see themselves as inferior.”
In many ways they are inferior. In some ways (think sportsball) they are not inferior. But regardless, blame God for how He chose to make the races and nations. I had precious little to do with it myself.
But don’t blame God for Africans being in America. The biggest issue I see with the dissident right (or whatever this is) is that it doesn’t take black Americans seriously. Black people are different from white people, and neither side integrates with the other; we all know this. However, black people didn’t ask or volunteer to come to America, and while it’s easy to tell disaffected blacks to go back to Africa, the truth is a) they can’t afford to and b) they have lost their roots to the homeland and wouldn’t assimilate to it either. It seems imminently reasonable… Read more »
I agree that a separate black nation–Missibama, perhaps–is potentially a good solution. However, I don’t think anybody on the Dissident Right is arguing blacks should be grateful their ancestors were enslaved. I think what we’re saying is that they should be grateful for the incredible efforts, monetary and otherwise, whites have made to provide restitution. And indeed, perhaps for the fact that we haven’t come down on them like a load of bricks given their incredibly pernicious impact on society. But no. The more whites transfigure blacks, the more blacks behave demonically. It will stop. Either peacefully or violently. The… Read more »
I don’t think those states would approve. Perhaps New England seeing as though your white ancestors foisted them upon us with their war.
“My” white ancestors? The main reason I chose Mississippi and Alabama is because those states already have huge black populations. The same cannon be said for Maine and Vermont.
Obviously you don’t own property in either of those states
“… they should be grateful for the incredible efforts, monetary and otherwise, whites have made to provide restitution.” We have literally wrecked, spiritually, morally, and financially bankrupted our country trying to help these people. None of this disaster would be happening today if all Africans had been involuntarily repatriated back to Africa in 1865. One reason to bring in huge numbers of non-British whites, especially Irish and Jews, was to demographically dilute the Africans. (South Carolina was 60% African at one point) Judeocommunists never would have succeeded in destoying us if they didn’t have slavery guilt with which to cudgel… Read more »
Agreed.
I doubt most American Blacks would want to relocate to any African country, if they did even a brief study of live in the homeland.
Finally, as a cracker in one of the states you name, I would be inconvenienced by such a partition, but if I were compensated for my property I would move, yes.
Alas, I think that genocide (or more likely, falling short of, but a bloody Civil War II) is the most likely “solution”: precisely because we are humans, we are obstinate, and we wouldn’t consider what in retrospect would have been less bloody solutions.
I think they can survive in Africa. 42 million american blacks are hard to genocide by the africans.
The first reservations should be Broward County, Florida and the West Bank.
A direct swap for African-Americans like Elon Musk would do for the rest. Let’s get our people out of there.
Blacks were not ‘kidnapped’ by Europeans.
Strict separation is a pipe dream – they are incapable of building their wakanda and will always try to take what the White man has.
‘Quite frankly,’ they are an exceptionally cruel and savage subspecies.
‘Quite frankly,’ I could not give a damn about what they want or how they feel.
Obsurd. Blacks are damn lucky they were born here instead of in Africa. Period end of story.
Damn straight! The flip side of course is that the rest of us are damned unlucky.
Well that’s what Cassius Clay thought.
Fuck that, I ain’t “giving” nothing to them. Do you want to turn Florida into Somalia? Try and sell that shit to the millions of people who worked all their lives for a little piece of their own. You’re an idiot to even suggest it.
Agree. Sometimes, even thick-skinned me is bothered by the implication: What if they really are inferior in so many respects? Doesn’t the natural human desire to not cause harm/offense underlie much of the “White Guilt”? Even Goodwhites must be aware, subconsciously perhaps, of the innate differences. But agreed, separation is the most humane option. Other options are, well, less humane 🙂
See themselves as inferior? They are. I used to wonder why a dude like Obummer and his spouse always appeared angry, or unhappy. Then it hit me. President, millionaire, celebrity, and at the end of the day, when he lays his head on the pillow, he knows deep down, that he’s just a common, everyday jogger. That’s gotta gall them.
Didn’t Oprah Winfrey say just that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1sWsn1Q8lk
Exactly.
”Do you expect me to talk?”
”No mr. Bond, I expect you to die”
Sub Kananga for Goldfinger and you’ve got it just right. Incidentally, James Bond is the archetype of the white man. And that is why the AWRs are working so hard to replace him with a black male.
Actually, they just replaced him with a black woman. Save Texas if you can Osti, we’re still hanging on by the skin of our teeth here in Florida.
Texas is on the ropes and awaiting the knockout punch, I’m afraid. This Abbott clown in charge is a worthless cuck and a two-bit tyrant. Oklahoma is a much more respectable state.
For once I can give you unqualified agreement. Texas has been coasting on its reputation (or the fake picture of the state painted by the $ew York media) for decades now. The state is bulging at the seams with people from all corners of the globe and the country. The uniparty’s r branch is filled with slimeballs like Cornyn and Abbot, and demographically the battle has long been lost.
They don’t want us to die – at least, not the smarter ones. Whites are their meal ticket. Without us, they go back to the jungle as they’re doing in Detroit, New Orleans, and Baltimore. They very much want us alive, whether they know it or not. The dissidents must pretty much give up on any ideas they have about peaceful segregation. That isn’t your fault either, it’s theirs. The black man is either at your feet, or he’s at your throat as the shitlib democrats are finding out right now. You have two options in the real world, Cracker:… Read more »
They have an inalienable right to White accomplishments.
Maybe “the smarter ones” don’t desire our immediate demise. That leaves an awful lot who want us dead, no matter what the long-term consequences to themselves.
Don’t forget, you are dealing with a group that routinely turns its own “hoods” into burnt-out wastelands, just for a bit of fun. (And then complain about living in food deserts, where only fast food, booze and drugs are readily available.) For many years I thought peaceful co-existence is possible — not any more.
No, partition …or bad uncle.
I prefer partition, as bad uncle might not like us uppity wignats either.
To be fair to the blacks, they don’t complain about the food deserts themselves. White soyboys and wammen complain for them. Blacks are mostly just fine with a diet of hamburgers, malt liquor, cigarettes, and drugs. It’s only whitey who worries that they don’t get their veggies.
Have you eaten at black homes. I have since childhood. They have a particularly narrow range of preferred foods: fried chicken, barbequed pork, ribs and beef tips, fish preferably catfish and carp, cornbread, strawberry pie, sweet potato anything, watermelon, grape soda, greens mostly collard, blackeyed peas and baked beans. Toss in a bag of Cheetos and the occasional meateaters pizza and that’s the diet for those with discretionary income or relatives cooking. I may have overlooked one or two but they definitely enjoy a smaller range when compared with middle class and up whites.
Blacks don’t show much interest in ethnic foods such as Chinese, Thai, Mexican, Indian, Japanese, Korean, etc. They pretty much like soul food, which is virtually synonymous with Southern cooking, and nothing else.
To a degree.
Via racist employment quotas South Africa has managed to degrade their formerly well-run electric utility, ESKOM to the point where rolling blackouts are now a regular feature of life.
Like so many others, they aspire to the California lifestyle.
Back to the jungle is exactly what would happen – and is happening – in the absence of white people.
They want us to be subjugated second-class citizens, tax serfs, and creators of amusing inventions such as duh Twitter and sail foams. They also want us to be punching bags with no recourse to self defense, cause it’s so much fun to attack YT in the street and occasionally rape and kill her.
This is brilliant. Reminds me of James Howard Kunstler’s argument that the whole point of the new BLM religion is to saddle us with a new kind of original sin but, unlike Christianity, there is no redemption or salvation possible.
Reparations?
Atonement?
Tribute?
Absolutely!
Over 600,000 whites died freeing backs from servitude.
The ultimate sacrifice was made by whites, for the sole benefit of blacks.
We want Reparations, indeed.
We want Tribute, not resentment.
We want blacks to Atone for their past racially inspired crimes against Whitey, which are completely unjustified.
Here are the latest accurate numbers:
388,000 slaves landed in the US between 1525 and 1866.
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/african-americans-many-rivers-to-cross/history/how-many-slaves-landed-in-the-us/
750,000 died in the War Between The States.
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-17604991
Thus, 1.9 Whites died to free each original slave who landed on US soil.
And what would reparations look like for the 450,000 White women raped by blacks every year?
…Barack Obama?
There are 3 factors imo making race relations unlivable. 1. Power. 2. Ideology. And 3. Fanatics. To some extent these are all basically the same factor. If blacks and whites can coexist in a stable way, without living under the tyranny of envy, we definitely cant in proximity to power that is up for grabs. Power isnt going anywhere, but maybe it wont be up for grabs in the next 10ish years. In the meantime maybe we could eliminate ideologies like the racial marxism which plays on and feeds into natural envy for political ends. Not likely, but even if… Read more »
I realize that this post was intended as edgy satire and the goal was tp demonstrate the absurdity of trying to negotiate over a nonsensical premise. But the problem is far more serious than just garnering entertainment value. Nickole Hanna-Jones is a parasite, and she would institutionalize parasitism as a life survival strategy. That is not a joke, that is an existential threat for the host. The proper response is not laughter, it is armed defense. Ask a Afrikaner how it ends.
Unfortunately, most Amerikaners don’t know that Zimbabwe used to be a nice place called Rhodesia and that South Africa was once considered to be a fairly developed country before they turned the keys over to the natives.
The Amerikaners will soon learn how it all ends, unfortunately.
what the nigs fail to comprehend (like so many things) is that they are a parasitical race, and depend on the white race in order to survive. as white influence recedes in an area, the black population will also shrink (generally).
If they could comprehend it, they wouldn’t care. Jews are equally parasitic, and I’m sure they are aware of it, and are content to keep on parasiting. If the host doesn’t have the will to remove the parasite, it will die, and the parasite will simply move on.
They’re running out of suitable hosts. The Han may want to imitate the Tribe but it’s yet to be seen if they’ll allow the Tribe to do its usual entryist bit.
Chinese “Communism” if it can be called that at this point has proven resistant so far, particularly to the siren song of the J-Left/Optics Tribe’s liberalism and human rights. And they seem entirely unimpressed with the J-Right Jignat Tribe’s saber-rattling from sock-puppet Pompeo or anyone else in the Cheetoh Judas administration.
I think people underestimate that fact that Jews look White. Non-Whites will always see a foreigner when a Jews talks to them. That matters. Instinctually, they know that they’re dealing with another tribe and thus can’t trust them.
That’s right.
If they don’t lose their minds completely the shapeshifting routine that Schrodinger’s whites use to hoodwink YT simply will not work on the Han people.
Although it’s rare, in theory we could convert to Judaism and infiltrate from outside. You’d just have to put up with a whiny wife 🙂 Sort of the opposite of the Spanish “conversos” who were claimed to retain their secret Judaism, we would feign allegiance to the Torah while we had our secret covens where we ate pork and shellfish 😀
The acceptance for converses to Judaism varies across sects. Not easy to be considered “solid” Jew, even if born into the family.
Luke Ford, is that you?
Part of the reason the CCP is unimpressed with all the neocon sabre rattling is that over the past 20 years they have made huge strides improving their air force, their air defenses, and their hypersonic missile capability.
If they manage to improve their air/sealift capability, their submarine fleet, and their anti-submarine capabilities over the next 5 to 10 years there is no way the US can keep them out of Taiwan without resorting to nukes.
Hey man, “Jewish Lives Matter”
I hope the Jews will tread very carefully with the Chinese. They have a recent history, up to the present time even, of having, um, ethnic re-education camps 🙁
As a White man that is of little consolation.
On a different note, I grew up in a silly “Christian” church that was heavily into end time prophecy. Gog and Magog in Ezekiel 38 and 39 were considered end times Russia and China. Which almost seems prophetic considering how things are shaping up right now. Of course, the OT is inverted concerning who the good and bad guys are in this case.
If Whites are going to pay reparations, then we are also entitled to a royalty check very time a person of color flips on a light switch … or turns the ignition key in a car … or boots up a computer … well, you get my drift.
Would you give up those royalty checks to be free of the whole race issue?
Yes sir. Yes indeed.
1000x yes
yes
Indeed I would … however, in all honesty … not holding my breath for that check to arrive in the mail, either …
Problem is, no one is asking for or taking checks. A check is a good rhetorical vehicle for the essay, but I’ve yet to hear a reparations proposal suggesting some sort of single payment and done. Rather proposals seem to ask for a “raise” as Z-man suggested astutely. Yeah, they want some cash assistance, but they also want new and expanded welfare and AA programs. And as has been said before, when in yet another few generations, such a program does not succeed in narrowing the Black/White gap, charges are sure to be made of racism, inadequate reparation payment, and… Read more »
Anoint Farrakhan the official leader of blacks and deride all others such as Nicole as poseurs (this happens to be reality). Negotiate with him the lands where blacks will live separately from whites and the start-up funds necessary. Then wall off their homeland and never allow one of them back into actual America.
Those are reparations I and basically all whites, despite their denials, would accept. Most blacks would as well. It is moral and humane to all concerned.
Partition. The only ‘reparation’ that will repair anything.
Might work, but the jews would never allow it…
The Semitic grip is loosening. It is time to make alliances with their worst enemies.
Insane creatures like this black b**** can’t get enough fantasizing about and lecturing Whites on this crap. It dreams of the mirror image of the antebellum south where the darkies own the plantations and wield the whip while Whitey labors in the proverbial cotton fields. One problem though, for sheboons like her, is the bucks are only gonna want the White wimminz. Those like her will soon find themselves laboring away along side of what’s of the White man. Better be careful what you wish for b****.
What do they think affirmative action is? What do they think welfare is? Section 8 and a whole bunch of other programs? How much do we get for forfeiting our cities to them? How about black crime? Where are our reparations? What about all the murdered white people? Do we really expect their relatives to pay the murderer’s relatives and the murderer? Presumably blacks in prison will get a check? They are never willing to look at both sides of the ledger. If the US were a white country we would be running large surpluses every single year. White people… Read more »
Z, the problem is that blacks and their ((benefactors)) will find someone a bit brighter than Ms. Jones to do the negotiating. Their argument while tautological and stupid will be compelling to enough whites: Z: What exactly do you want? 75% Jewish/25% black Mulatto: Well, since all groups are equally capable something only Hitler would disagree with, we can agree that any area – income, net worth, engineering and corporate jobs, etc. – where blacks underperform Whites is proof of White racism in some form. Z: Yes, yes, but what do you want? Mulatto: Patience my good man, I’m getting… Read more »
Which is how we end up subsidizing them forever, as their metrics will never match ours…no matter how far we fall.
Yep, Z is wrong. They’ll be more than happy to talk specifics. Talking specifics doesn’t force them to give us absolution. (Btw, my last sentence should have said that they “don’t” need to give us absolution.)
Talking specifics is useful for getting Joe Normie on our side. Joe Normie is expecting absolution. When they find out that they’re not going to get it, they may think twice about appeasing blacks and their ((benefactors)).
I could easily see Goodwhites throwing reparations dollars at blacks in one last desperate attempt to save their cult ideology of racial equality if given the chance; one last spite to the badWhites who’ve ruined everything by being right about the issue. You cannot persuade the other side they are wrong with logic. They are more akin to uncompromising religious zealots. The moment you open the reparations discussion in any serious manner you will lose because their side is strong and determined and our side is weak, occupied by traitors like David French and Rich Lowry. Those guys will be… Read more »
If the legalities could be resolved, I think most non-Black Americans would be for 100% partition/Segregation. Even many Blacks would intially be on board. We could promise them a substantial, even a 100% reduction in our arresting Black criminals. In fact, we could agree to parole all Blacks currently in prison, if they were re-located to the tribal homeland.
That would sound great to the Woke, until they woke up to the fact that the Black criminals and the non-criminals had to live in the same space, and were forbidden to enter White areas.
Sounds good to me!
They’ve basically got all that stuff already.
The foot-stompy demand for reparationses n’sheeeit is a Lil’bow-wowdlerized form of “praxis” – something recently mentioned by McNabb on TDS. In a nutshell, it’s simply a demand for something because I have power and you don’t, usually tarted up with purely rhetorical claims without regard for their reality or justification “Gibs me dat b/c I want dat. F-your reality b/c my reality and if you don’t like it, Ima shank you.” The proper response is “no [hard R] no.” We’re tired of playing Cornell West word-salad-surgery about the destitutions of muh constitutions and the prostitutions of muh absolutions. No, [hard… Read more »
That was hilarious. Also saved me the time of reading her column.
How do the progs other pets feel about over the top afrophilia?
A marked lack of mourning and reflection in Mexifornia, for sure. I think that’s what the fireworks in L.A. this weekend were all about.
Yup. That’s about it.
Typo at end: we have *no* reason to keep paying you.
Hey everybody! You *need* to distribute Z’s article to every single centrist-to-right person you know and spark discussion. I’m not sending it to clients or business partners for obvious reasons but on the friend and general acquaintance level a link to the article together with a brief question inviting a response is going out today.
And, yes, I ordered a batch of AlaskaChaga “chunks.”
Blacks have huge rates of mental illness. Even when they are sane, they usually have their monomania — blackness — which is a kind of insanity.
The funny part is, even if America gave these people their own state and all the whites left, it wouldn’t be very long until you saw a repeat of what happened in Zimbabwe. Tens of thousands of white farmers were forced off their lands and many resettled in Australia. Now they’re being asked to come back after the people “in charge” figured out they have no clue how to run the farms.
But it’s worse. I’ve heard that some of these “White” farmers have returned. 🙁
Some people can’t walk away from a bad relationship no matter how abusive. Sad.
Z, you wrote a similar column about a year ago and ever since my understanding of “reparations” has been as clear as day.
If only other white people would just figure out that they really don’t want one check, they want multiple generations of ransom, this would all get cleared up pretty quickly.
With everything being about race and anti-whiteness these days, sometimes I just want to immerse myself in the outdoors, go camping and hiking to escape the blackety-black. Think again, they’re going after the outdoors…..https://scholarlycommons.pacific.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4120&context=uop_etds
The linked paper might make good subject matter for a Z-cast.
We need to realize that Nicole Hannah-Jones is a figurehead for the elite establishment, which is still white. The New York Times is still considered “The Paper of Record”. Ta-Nehisi Coates advises Sen. Warren with his incredible anti-white working-class hostility. The Ta has The Atlantic, another elite establishment publication, as a platform. It was recently reported in the Economist, which is at the apex of elite publications, that Mary Barra, CEO of GM, “was outraged by the killing of George Floyd, the latest in a long string of deaths of unarmed black American by the police”. Z-Man’s “ruling classes” probably are far more dangerous than… Read more »
All true. Coates and Hannah-Jones are slightly more polished than the bug-eyed Step ‘n Fetchits of the Thirties flicks, but they are mentally one and the same: low IQ house servants who think Dey Made Dat. We really need to work hard to destroy Big Tech and Big China Imports, Inc., along with their Conservatism, Inc., and Marxism, Inc. mouthpieces. BAMN. The real enemies are Bezos and Gates, not Shanika and Tyrone. The latter two can be decimated before nightfall. The twilight struggle is with the former.
This entire thing would collapse like a house of cards without the implicit support of white wahmen. They have become the greatest vector of destruction for western civ imaginable and the (((Architects))) of feminism probably saw that as well. You take a creature that is already of average intelligence (women cluster VERY heavily in the middle intellect vs. men at the outlier edges) and add a dash of herding / social safety and you can get them to do pretty much anything with enough social pressure / gaslighting. And so here we are. A strategy moving forward is to shift… Read more »
BTW: That novel above I recommended paints the near future very clearly and I’ve talked about it here before as far as end-game reparations. Z’s topic and a few posters here get it that reparations will be an all encompassing thing going forward. Whitey Tax (in the book that is a real thing and probably IRL soon too). They know subconsciously they are wholly incapable w/o us which just fuels the rage even more. The smarter ones and their (((handlers))) will not kill the golden goose, but they will bind it into eternal servitude and it appears a terrifying percentage… Read more »
Women seem to track to whatever they think is the dominant culture. They get that from mass media. The way to get white women on our side is to become the dominant culture.
Yes
Which is why it starts with every individual man reclaiming – or enforcing, his own masculine frame. A dominant culture is the result of a critical mass of men exercising their dominance within their own lives and women entering the fold. Too many on or near our side are still operating entirely with the feminized/prog/globopedo frame; they are waiting for big man gadot to tell their wives and daughters or tinderbumble insta bang dolls that they have to listen to daddy. Appealing to the same higher authorities that granted gynocracy the crown is a losing proposition. As is aspiring to… Read more »
Browsing through the internet yesterday I ran across mention of a new negro movement even more radical than Burn Loot Murder. Their demand is for an ethno-state within the borders of the continental U.S. Actually, it doesn’t sound like a bad idea. Something like we gave to the Indian nations, a “reserved” space for them alone. Give it to them along with a permanent UBI, legalized drugs of all description, and something like a giant PX where they can get eberything fo free. The peace dividend to the rest of the nation would far outweigh the cost.
JWM
Give the blacks and POCs California. It’s a lot to give up, but we’re not getting it back short of all out war anyway. Cancel citizenship and gibs for any blacks and POCs who stay in the remaining 49 states. Give whites in CA a relocation allowance to leave. Then cut CA loose as a sovereign nation.
As a Californian, I’d rather see Florida get the privilege. 😉
JWM
My dear jwm, as a Floridian I say go to hell! 🙂
Seriously, Florida would be a bad choice since we have so many blacks who are not African-Americans of slave decent. They don’t mix well with the nigs.
And then, we have a ton of Hispanics who really don’t like the nigs. Really don’t like them.
In this area, giving them Mississippi makes the most sense to me.
But can California just leave regardless?
Florida is the third most Jewish state in America.
Could we at least give the Blacks South Florida? Miami & Boca BTFO’d.
I’ll stand with you here in California JWM and say no. After all, no slaves disembarked our shores, nor any cotton picked by such.
How about Tanaga island, Alaska?
FUSA border defenses will be important. I am in favor of Florida south of the panhandle because we will need a defensible wall when their Floridian Wakanda inevitably goes “Africa wins again!” No one wants to give up their portion of our country, but if someone doesn’t eventually we will lose it all anyway. This is the mistake the South African rich made. They didn’t want to give up property outside the area where they could have reasonably set up an Afrikaner homeland. If you try to save it all, you lose it all. South African white property rights hang… Read more »
We’re going to need California to give, along with Arizona and New Mexico, to the Hispanics as payment for their assistance to us when the race war really kicks off and we join forces to run the all the blacks who won’t go voluntarily into New Wakanda.
Interesting idea. But Hispanics are not nearly as dumb as joggers. I suspect they’d want some control over a homeland, but would recognize the use of a White minority remaining.
In return for supporting us in the war for the ethnostate, the Messkins might demand that a certain percentage of that ethnostate be Hispanic. The exact percentage would be negotiable and dependent upon how badly we needed them to achieve victory.
I’m not sure CA would work. The place is totally dependent on large scale waterworks that even the current state is having trouble maintaining. I doubt the Wakandifornians could keep it running. Then again, wherever you settle the blacks is going to be having trouble keeping the lights on and water running. The way I see it, we’ve basically got 3.5 new nations to create. One for hispanics, one for blacks, and one for whites. This last nation may need to be subdivided into 2 parts, one for the hopelessly pozzed whites and one for the sane ones so there’s… Read more »
Most of the black population is in a few states in the South East. I would gladly lose those states to be free from blacks.
I always liked Malcolm x cause he had the same vision as you do.
Problem was the jews, they spread MLKs views over those of Malcolm X.
Illinois. They’ve already overtaken Chicongo, and the “Land of Lincoln” can inherit the problem Lincoln created.
No black is moving to an ethno-state. They all talk shit and puff their chest out but at the end of the day they know damn well who keeps the electricity and water treatment plants running. The only way you will get an ethno-state is if whites are the ‘machinery’ of that state and every black that lives there gets a complimentary white ho upon entry. Given the current state of affairs I think that is sadly achievable. White manlets and soyboys will happily serve their black masters and get off watching the bucks run a train on their own… Read more »
If the US designated a black area and offered a $50,000 check to anyone moving there permanently then I doubt many would take it. it would however change the conversation. Every time a black started complaining we could point out they love white people so much they turned down $50,000 to live around us.
As for the blacks and white girls all the data I’ve seen show women don’t actually date blacks very much. They just virtue signal about them.
Musical track suggested: From 1970 (!) The Last Poets’ “Niggers are Scared of Revolution”. Good live version on Youtube.
Where’s the link?
You’re quite right.
Traitors deserve everything they get. Lets two bird-one stone this: the AWFLs get sent to Wakanda during the Great Partition. The leftover sois get to choose between our new Foreign Legion and open-air winter reeducation camps in western North Dakota.
The point is to not give them a choice. If they refuse they die.
Kinda funny to watch everybody go all NIMBY in the comments when someone suggests giving their particular corner of the world to found the New Wakanda.
Logistcally, you’d have to give them territory where most of them already are to cut down on resettlement costs. That means a large portion of the Old South, unfortunately. Florida, Georgia, and (sigh) my birth state of Alabama it is.
This is the proper attitude. If we aren’t willing to cut lose something then we will lose everything when succeeding generations kick the can down the road AGAIN.
South America. There’s plenty of room on the other side of the river. And there’s lots of jungle for them to run around in chucking there spears.
Z nailed it…
The 8 year old black girl killed in atlanta was killed by BLM, at a BLM checkpoint.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/shooters-wanted-death-girl-atlanta-71624881
Meanwhile in Birdwatching news…Karen charged…
I always have worked off the presumption that blacks will accept nothing less than the 100% elimination of all white people and the confiscation of 100% of their property and monies. Nothing else makes sense otherwise.
Africans were not stolen, they were bought, legally, from the recognized rulers of various West African Nations, some of which actually had diplomatic relations with Great Britain and other European States at the time. I wonder if it is possible to complain to the vendors’ successor States and ask for a refund on the grounds that the “goods” were clearly faulty. If a refund is out of the question maybe return the “goods” descendants and settle for a credit note to be redeemed against other African exports, palm oil or coconuts for example.
I think we have to realize that facts and logic are no longer the currency of American discourse, if they ever were. Blacks, and many Whites, operate with feelings and magic. No amount of history, statistics, and legal arguments will make any difference. That may have had some general effect in 1980, but it means nothing in 2020. We’re not gonna survive by facts and logic; The Spanish and the English did not win this hemisphere in a debate, and a debate will not get it back.
Murray Rothbard warned all of us about individualism run amok.
“Contemporary libertarians often assume, mistakenly, that individuals are bound to each other only by the nexus of market exchange. They forget that everyone is necessarily born into a family, a language, and a culture. …usually including an ethnic group, with specific values, cultures, religious beliefs, and traditions.”
Blacks have to go. But then we must realize that there are very different groups of whites. Often the southern cracker does not really want to be around the German descended. (I have such animals as in-laws)
Hey! Watch it pal, I’m a Colorado “cracker.” And damn proud of it! 🪕⛰️
Deliverance • Dueling Banjos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDlZLsJJkVA
I guess the Colorado crackers, the Florida crackers, and those from East Tn. can all get along. Up the cracker!
Friend in high school in Florida was a real cracker. He once went in the bushes at baseball practice and came out holding a live rattlesnake he intended to take home and cook. It was a monster snake. Scared the hell out of the rest of us. We were pussies I guess.
Rattlesnake. The other other white meat 😀
I’m all for reparations… so long as each one includes a one-way ticket to Wakanda.
Yah, good luck with that.There’s no brakes on the crazy train. The left never sleeps and it’s never satisfied. You either destroy it, join it or get as far away from it as you possibly can. Those are your options
The parasite dies without the host. Hence that’s why there never is a final number to put onto the check. As much as it pains blacks (I refuse to use uppercase to describe them), their existence depends on us. They need our tax revenue to keep the gibs train rolling. They need us to continue to fund government agencies and corporations with their diversity hires that create a fake black middle class from whole cloth. This explains their never-ending rage. It’s not slavery (just an excuse) or Jim Crow laws (ditto). They know that if not for white, Western Civilization,… Read more »
Not very realistic dialogue. IRL, the representative for the Black people would have stomped the representative for the white people within the first five exchanges. Then the representative for the Black people would have set the representative for the white people on fire. Then the FBI would arrest the representative of the white people for using an unspecified racial slur.
Your scenario is so unrealistic. They would have robbed the white of any money, cell phones, other valuables he might have had. They would have stabbed or shot him, depending upon the weapons on hand. If Whitey was a “she” she would have been raped.
Oh this is just terrible… a white BLM purple haired grrl, Summer Taylor has been run over, accidentally I’m sure…by one Dawit Kelete, 27, driving a Jag as it were. He fled the scene, BLM protester chased him down, Dawit Kelete of course is a White Raycixx ….Black man. He was described as ‘sullen’ when arrested.
Oh horrors it’s worse, the surviving grrrl is getting FB death threats, I can’t imagine from who…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8494227/PICTURED-Black-man-27-knocked-killed-Black-Lives-Matter-protester.html
I have to add the sorrows come in battalions…the grill on the Jag is all messed up.
Let’s just hope the suspension and undercarriage weren’t damaged as she rolled under the tires. Jag repairs are expensive.
My only question is why did the Ethiopian mow them down? My guess is just common n3gro sociopathy.
Another Black White Supremacist! It is really terrible how many of those there are these days. We had the ones in Minnesota doing all the rioting just recently as all the MSM were reporting and now this… Sad! I thought we got rid of the last one back in 08?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLNDqxrUUwQ
FWP vssc:
Here’s a touching quote from the Daily Mail article:
‘Summer has been there since day one standing up for Black lives. Staying out all day and night, while still working full time taking care of animals,’ Hoberecht said.
’nuff said.
JWM
As RamzPaul observed, “Summer Taylor’s last act resulted in a black man being arrested.”
Is she related to St. Pancake?
“working full time taking care of animals,”
Somewhere at the Daily Mail a Pajeet is having a laugh.
No, the Pajeets don’t like them either.
The second last thing to go through her mind as she was hit by the car was, “Mom was right, I shouldn’t have ever been a part of this. I should have gotten married and been at home with my kids…” The last thing to go through her mind of course was the Jaguar hood ornament.
💪🤡🤣
So a jog was zigzagging in a jag?
Very nice, Z. Very Derbsian.
Nice change up, Z-man! Reminded me of Plato’s Dialogues, but with Socrates interrogating morons instead of bright young Athenian citizens.
The Danegeld reference at the end was the best, illustrating John Derbyshire’s “blackety-blackety-black” observation from long ago. Of course Mx. Hanna-Barbera-Jones doesn’t get the Dane analogy, because blacks only think-read-write about blackety-black stuff, and Danes sure ain’t black.
The Z-man on black Solipsism; worth reading again:
http://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=3460
Danez wuz Chedduz, bruv.
Nailed it! (Of course, I don’t agree to any of the stipulations, but good rhetorical device to highlight the core problem with “reparations.” )
As Z-man strongly implies, there is no end to this blackmail. And as Kipling concluded, a long time ago:
“We never pay any-one Dane-geld,
No matter how trifling the cost;
For the end of that game is oppression and shame,
And the nation that plays it is lost!”
Short version: F’ off, you get nothing from us.
A million for defense, not a penny in tribute.
Amen