Thoughts On Kenosha

Kenosha Wisconsin has now become the pivot point for the revolution from above being waged on middle America. Riots have convulsed the city for three nights since a violent black rapist was shot by police after resisting arrest. Large swaths of the city have been burned as the mayor cheered on the rioters. This led to the shooting of three rioters by a 17-year old kid, who volunteered to help defend the property owners. The video of the incident has become a world-wide sensation.

Of course, this being Jim Snow America, the white kid is now charged with capital murder and faces life in prison. White people who kill in self-defense get charged with capital murder, while blacks who kill for sport are allowed to go free. You see, the former is exercising white privilege and is guilty of being white. The latter, on the other hand, is the victim of white privilege and is justifiably angry. In post-reality America, privilege means being stripped of your rights and dignity.

If Kyle Rittenhouse was a black or an immigrant from the third world or even a transexual, he would not be in jail right now. He would be held up as a hero by the mainstream media. President Trump would send Air Force One to bring him to Washington for a special ceremony. Speakers at the RNC convention would be told to mention his name in their speeches. He is white, so no one at the convention will mention his name. They have not mentioned Cannon Hinnant either.

Unlike other cases where the media can suppress the truth while spreading lies, this time the truth was all over the internet before the media could act. As soon as it happened, social media had video of the attack on Rittenhouse. He fell to the ground as violent criminals attacked him and he opened fire on them. There can be no narrative in which he is the villain. He may have been naive, but he was simply following the civic nationalist code and doing what he thought was his duty.

This is Jim Snow America. A white kid following the rules is guilty, no matter what the facts say, so he sits in prison. His family started a defense fund on Go Fund Me, but it was immediately taken down. Again, in Jim Snow America, whites are not allowed to avail themselves of the resources for self-defense. The system will now wage war on this kid’s family in order to prevent them from defending their son. In Jim Snow America, white people just have to take it.

It is an infuriating reality, for sure. In a better world, the mayor of Kenosha would already be swinging from a tree. The good people of that city would have remembered the words of Jefferson and fertilized their tree of liberty. Of course, in a sane society, it would never have come to this. There would be no riots sponsored by the ruling class, so Kyle Rittenhouse would not have felt the need to go out in the streets. The reason all of this happened is the rulers made it happen.

As infuriating as it may be, it is this reality that must shine through. Those old rules you were taught about the law and your rights as an America no longer exist. They certainly don’t exist if you are white. If you are white, the system sees you as an enemy and will spare no expense in attacking you. The reason Kyle Rittenhouse sits in jail is no one told him this. Instead, internet warriors playing tough guy on-line encouraged him to be a man of action.

This is why people who like saying “well, at least he is doing something” need to be shouted down at every opportunity. These are people who think every cause needs martyrs, just as long as they are not the martyr, so they encourage everyone else to be foolishly brave. Like James Fields, we have another naive and impressionable young white man facing life in a cage, because he was convinced that doing something is always better than doing nothing.

This is just one aspect of a larger point that white people need to grasp. None of this would be happening if not for the political class. The Kenosha police department has tanks and armored vehicles. They have highly trained tactical units that are trained by Israel special forces officers. The Kenosha police force could invade a small country, but they are nowhere to be found during these riots. The reason they are absent is the politicians have ordered them to let the riots rage.

This is what makes Kenosha a pivot point in the ruling class revolt. This kid is not a scary monster who can be anathematized by the system. Even vulgarians like David Frum think he looks innocent. Note that Frum is okay giving weapons to these kids when they are killing Muslims on behalf of Israel, but otherwise he never wants to see white people holding firearms. For the typical white person, if he had a son, he would look like Kyle Rittenhouse.

Ultimately, that is now the significance of the Kenosha riots. White people are faced with the reality of their sons being sent to prison for the crime of being white. They face having their businesses destroyed because non-whites are ungrateful. They are being harassed at restaurants and in their home by mobs sponsored by the ruling class who have embraced anti-whiteness as a revolutionary cause. It’s no longer an abstract political argument. It’s daily reality.

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Exile
Exile
4 years ago

” The reason Kyle Rittenhouse sits in jail is no one told him this. Instead, internet warriors playing tough guy on-line encouraged him to be a man of action.” His own online information says he was a police cadet and a “back the blue” guy. He lives in the area – it’s not like he’s some kid that traveled from California to Charlottesville. If anyone hyped him up, it wasn’t “internet warriors.” https://tinyurl.com/y2wkcsqo But let’s not let Kyle’s crisis go to waste in the ongoing one-sided e-drama over responsible paleo-con sensibilities vs. the wignats. I’ve been the first to say here… Read more »

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MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Exile
4 years ago

This is quality food for thought. If nothing else, Rittenhouse is the anti-McCuckskey

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

That kid demonstrated far better skills with a gun than the two besieged urbanites. Three shots, three thugs down. I know few people who could have withstood what that kid faced and walked away. At seventeen! He’s a natural-born warrior. And now he’s a hero to millions.
And check out the criminal records of the three guys he took down. They literally were criminals…

https://national-justice.com/kenosha-all-three-anarchist-rioters-shot-have-histories-violent-crime?fbclid=IwAR06-XZE_dEBzn4VnT_2L2PCmO4O6c9hR2rntt3fAYQ4tQ3cgnPIJNFfPcE

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skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 years ago

Maybe he will be our version of the guy facing down the tank in Tiananmen Square.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Exile
4 years ago

Rittenhouse indeed is a hero and needs to become an avatar of White America. These pogroms will give us many heroes and, unfortunately in the short term, martyrs.

All of this can be exploited in a way to benefit our people.

Beautifully written, Exile.

Exile
Exile
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 years ago

Anyone who claims to be 2A that isn’t on the side of what this kid did is a fake. This is exactly what 2A is about. I’ve taunted guys for having entirely ornamental gun collections, not without reason. Kyle has proven that NA2AALT. There is still the willingness to genuinely fight and risk your life to defend our people and communities from destruction. They’re not all Boomer LARP’ers – hopefully most aren’t. If you’re going to bring a gun, use it lawfully, but use it. And we should be standing with this kid 101%. There is nothing to counter-signal here.… Read more »

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Exile
4 years ago

Are there #2A people countersignalling this kid? They can’t possibly be that stupid, can they?

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

It’s people who have understanding and training and experience “counter-signaling” as you put it—not simply folk with an unused gun in the safe.

A martyr’s main purpose is to inspire, not train. I can appreciate what this boy has done for the cause and yet warn folk where he went wrong in his implementation.

Suburban_elk
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

You are missing the point. The Kid won, and he is legend.
For starters he won tactically in the field of battle. But more importantly he wins hearts and minds.
His position in the courtroom and the jail cell are not irrelevant (and especially to him). But in light of his other accomplishments, it was the price to pay.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Exile
4 years ago

Jails and prisons can’t hold us all, only extermination camps. Without heroes and martyrs, the latter will be fast-tracked. People who retain delusions to the contrary are beyond help. We are not advocating for Bladerunner but lawful dissent and protection of our brothers and sisters here. I suspect most gunowners would gleefully turn them over to the totalitarian State based on what we’ve seen with the Covid surrender and cowardice in the face of domestic terrorism. That includes more than just Boomers, who prior to this kid have comprised most of the true resistance to this violence and oppression. Look… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Exile
4 years ago

Obviously, you’ve had no training in defensive firearm use, but want to lecture those who have.

The purpose of training at the civilian, not military level, is to first avoid use if possible, then if not, to win. Winning at its essence is to come out unscathed, and go home.

Our current poster child for the cause was only partially successful in the above. It seems that in our rush to anoint him as venerable martyr for the cause we forget this.

BTP
Member
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

Don’t be stupid, Compsci. Everybody knows that anyone involved in a defensive shooting will be arrested with near certainty. This is a critical part of all the training about self defense: even if the shoot is obviously good, you will probably be placed under arrest and have your firearm seized as evidence. In WI, there is literally no way a White could get to go home after a shooting, no matter the obvious evidence that this was self-defense. So, yeah, the kid wasn’t a Green Beret. But a mob tried to kill him and he put two of them in… Read more »

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  BTP
4 years ago

What does it say about the only conservative “victories” of note: tax cuts and preserving the 2A when the tax cuts are really tax deferments and you are guaranteed an arrest after exercising your 2A rights?

Phoenix
Phoenix
Reply to  skeptic16
4 years ago

Saying they are against abortion in and of itsellf seems to be a victory to them, the way they act.

They’ve totally lost on the issue but they are self-righteous losers.

Exile
Exile
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

I was raised by Appalachian rednecks and have handled and owned guns since I was ten years old. I was a latchkey kid and we lived in a county where the sheriff’s response time was over a half-hour. We teach kids in my family how to handle themselves in that situation.

Don’t presume you know my background.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 years ago

Exploiting is fine. It’s a tactic the Left has taught us is effective. But you’ll never convince me this boy is a hero. Martyr for the cause yes. But a hero… As has been attributed to Patton,”…let the other poor bastard die for his country…”

Exile
Exile
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

Heroism and martyrdom aren’t mutually exclusive – and let’s not bury this kid before he’s Shoah’d.

Believing that only “winners” are heroes is a libertarian prior – work on that.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Exile
4 years ago

Every successful movement has martyrs. Without Exception.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Exile
4 years ago

Arguing about the wisdom of Kyle’s getting into the situation he did, or how he worked his way out of it, is water under the bridge now. He pushed back, when none of the rest of us have done so, to nearly that degree. Big respect for that. Someone needs to step up. Right time, right way, right person? Too late for that now, and even defending him is weak sauce, compared to what he did. Keep Kyle’s name out there, it’s the least we can do.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

Yes, things are tricky out there. There is “the talk” that needs to be had with persons under one’s wing, about the dangers of “CWW” (carrying while white), and Remus’ “staying away from crowds”, which is about not volunteering to enter crazy town, if it is not necessary to be there. Situational awareness and forethought.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Exile
4 years ago

No argument. But my point is to use such as examples of how one may avoid the pratfalls of such action and be more successful in future implementation. That also is important in final success—or failure.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

As MMV pointed out before me, how many movements–and in particular as with this case, resistance to bloodthirsty tyranny do not have martyrs? This kid ain’t dead by no means. In fact, the only way he dies is if the State panics and murders him in jail by Antifa proxy. And, yes, he’s a hero, too. Note: Patton had a lot of poor bastards die under his command, and he won. It is unavoidable. This is not to advocate for “do something, do anything” but to support this kid and exploit the hell out of this one. His arraignment on… Read more »

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Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 years ago

No argument here. As a martyr to inspire and rally the troops, he will serve a higher purpose. You just don’t make positive training videos from the Youtube postings I’ve seen.

Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 years ago

Kyle Rittenhouse and Cannon Hinnant are both far better symbols to rally behind than thugs like George Floyd or Jacob Blake. Even if most blacks don’t get this most white shitlibs do. It’ll be another fork in the moral road for a lot of them. Some will break ranks and start moving back toward sanity but the remainder will become hardened and more devoted to evil.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Exile
4 years ago

Great post.

The tree of liberty also requires the blood of patriots – martyrs.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Exile
4 years ago

Amen Brother…Here are two places that you can help his defense fund out…
https://www.givesendgo.com/GUCZ
https://gunslingerclub.com/product/kyle-rittenhouse-defense-fund/

Exile
Exile
Reply to  Lineman
4 years ago

Thanks for that link. There are going to be bad operators trying to cash in on this kid so everyone make sure you check out the folks on the other end.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Exile
4 years ago

What Exile said. Avoid grifters, and this will include cucks, Second Amendment activists, and of course Republicans in general and politicians in particular. Research where you send money.

The fact the linked site was overwhelmed almost immediately with donations and had to be paused as a result indicates the amount of fury ready to be thrown back into the face of the State.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Lineman
4 years ago

Thanks for the links, Lineman. I read over at Vox that Nick Sandman’s lawyer Lin Wood is organizing Kyle’s legal defense. That’s the type of community and White organizing we need to see, every time. Had a massive disagreement with my older son about this yesterday. He was saying how bad the optics were, that it was illegal for a 17 year old to carry a rifle, etc. Surprised and disappointed me. I repeatedly insisted that the law no longer applies, and we have to back our own first, foremost, and publicly.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  3g4me
4 years ago

While the main point will be to crowd source this kid’s criminal defense (Wood would be stellar), these alternative ways to donate to it also help kick the legs out of the SJW-oriented GoFundMe. So it’s a twofer.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  3g4me
4 years ago

Amen sister I think sometimes when I talk of Community that everyone understands that this is the kinds of things I’m advocating for but it seems by the pushback sometimes that they don’t understand that…

Valley Lurker
Valley Lurker
Reply to  3g4me
4 years ago

This is what I have been telling people aggressively. The law no longer applies. And I am intimately familiar with its machinations and kabuki theater. All even pretense of objectivity has been thrown off. It is pure politics.

Exile
Exile
Reply to  3g4me
4 years ago

Just saw that. He needs a murder/2A specialist but it’s great that this guy is filling the gap for now.

If the NRA or its erstwhile successors are worth anything, they will get this kid some help.

His community was targeted for anarchist mob violence by hostile outsiders. I’m inclined to give him a huge benefit of any doubt.

We have to start learning to take our own side without kosher forensic and legal approval. Things have gotten real.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

That’s what I think, too. Also, Wood can deter a total character assault for obvious reasons. My bet is the local DA is trying to figure out the cost/benefit of a plea to a misdemeanor of some type. Wood will tell the kid not to do it so as to keep all his civil remedies open.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  3g4me
4 years ago

Passing a fake $20 and robbing pregnant women at gunpoint are illegal, but didn’t slow down G. Floyd’s cause.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Exile
4 years ago

There are going to be businesses left unburnt and White people left unbeaten because of what this kid did – wholly lawfully and justifiably, on video for all to see.

True enough. The testicular fortitude of this lad is impressive.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Exile
4 years ago

Watch the video again. There is much to be considered when the defense pleads “self defense”. Was this kid assaulted in a way that a “reasonable man” would fear for his life or grave bodily injury? I say yes, but there’s not a chance folk like me get onto the jury. You’ll get a lot of folk who will think the attacker didn’t have a weapon. And that will color their verdict.

The only conclusion I come to immediately, is this incident should not have happened.

Exile
Exile
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

I know all too well how the kosher sausage gets made in a courtroom. We can either defend our communities and risk jail or we can let Blacks and shape-shifting anarchists burn them down, pull us out of our cars and beat us, harass our women (and worse), etc… The question is are you willing to take that risk or not? Are we at least and last willing to stand up for the mere right to defend ourselves against criminals, or will that go the way of our rights and traditions of free association, religion, family values and every other… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Exile
4 years ago

Or we can be smarter and still as successful with training and the community support you are so fond of promoting. So which is it?

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

I think you both want the same thing Brother which is why in person is much better than online…Want to come over for a BBQ?

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

Here is you opportunity for community support: support this kid, here and now. Say he did the right thing in defendingnhis, OUR, community. He is of your people, do the right thing and step up to defend him instead of what-ifism monday morning quarterbacking.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

It wasn’t a one on one deal so you can’t separate each person that was attacking him and say well that one has one and that one doesn’t…The guy that got shot in the arm had a handgun and there was shots fired back at the kid…The whole thing is a mess for sure and just shows us that we really do need to have Community so those that need guidance and support have it…

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Lineman
4 years ago

Community is the key.

What if instead of one kid, it’s 50 White guys facing the crowd. (Better yet, live where those crowds would never exist in the first place.)

What if the cops in that community were shunned and looked upon with disgust for not protecting White property and lives?

What if the cops’ wives were no longer invited to neighborhood parties?

What if the cops’ kids were told by the other kids that their dads were traitors?

What if the mayor was booed as he walk down the street?

This is how we win.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 years ago

Exactly right it’s really pretty simple it’s numbers of like-minded in one area able to control/rule how they want to live…As soon as we understand the numbers game like the left does then we win…

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 years ago

Brilliant points, Citizen. Yes to the cops’ wives being shunned and the public booing of people. Make them feel unwelcome in their own town. It’s still a numbers game, unfortunately. As you said, if there are 50 Kyles to confront Antifa and the community publicly and openly backs their Kyles.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Lineman
4 years ago

Bingo. That’s all I’m really saying.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

It is unfortunate that you are being downvoted on all your comments because I feel like you & I are on the same page and quite frankly, the page of most others. I think the downvotes are a sense of frustration at seeing another of our youth thrown into the meat grinder over spurious sh1t while nogs walk free after straight up murder over & over. Your points though, however painful, are 100% true. (((Lawyers))) are going to tear this kid apart because that is what they do. It is the reality we live in and you can be angry… Read more »

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usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

If he’d put down a couple of joggers, it’d be game, set, match & off to prison he goes. A couple of scabby, criminal whites, I don’t know… I’d say there’s still hope.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

3) Was illegally carrying an assault rifle which must be 18 at a minimum to legally own. Strike 3

Don’t know anything about Wisconsin law, but it seems contradictory to try him as an adult for carrying an assault rifle for being under 18.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

If only we had a few real-world John Clarks (Tom Clancy Without Remorse, also other novels). 🙂

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

There are two guys attacking Kyle. One had a deadly weapon, a skate board (which can be used to fracture a skull, that’s why it’s a weapon-of-choice for some of them); the second guy was trying to wrestle Kyle’s AR-15 away from him, after which Kyle would himself have been shot dead. He’s justified on both counts in shooting his assailants, on the grounds of serious threats to his life.

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Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Exile
4 years ago

Well put.

KimodoDragaon
KimodoDragaon
Reply to  Exile
4 years ago

Rittenhouse is now enabled to do a couple of things, besides remind the anarchists that they may be ended. He can refuse to go in for a “guilty plea” like the Fields kid did. He does not need “lawyers”. He needs willpower, as in my dealings, extensive, with lawyers, I have always viewed them as condoms I put on to fuck my enemies. Then discard, usually first negotiating their fees down (one of my favorites; so easy to do). Then, he can go all in on making his manifesto known, although a certain Iron Cross winning scout had a friendly… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  KimodoDragaon
4 years ago

I hope Kyle, and any counselor providing guidance, understands that Kyle is in the sh*t central now, and backing down, in any way, will only make it worse for him. He needs to double down and follow through, as publicly as possible. His only chance at avoiding being shafted by the system is a public outcry, and the way he gets that is by not blinking and being public about it.

KimodoDragaon
KimodoDragaon
Reply to  Dutch
4 years ago

HReportedly, he (his cause) has attracted high profile attorney Lin Wood. This will change the dynamic drastically. The whale will end up spitting out Jonah, er, Kyle.

Vegetius
Vegetius
Reply to  Exile
4 years ago

This is not teachable but it is actionable.
If you’re over 60 and never done a thing but whine online, here is yet another opportunity to atone for your priors, whatever they are.
Dress elderly. Drive to commercial areas frequented by, but not exclusive to, the jogger or college community. Don your covid-approved mask and 2 pair of gloves. Glue Justice for Kyle/Its Ok To Be White flyers in public toilets. Try not to fuck it up.  

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Vegetius
4 years ago

Or give some of that wealth you’ve accumulated through your years to his defense fund…

b123
b123
Reply to  Exile
4 years ago

Thank you, Exile. He is a hero.

Realistically, what future does he have in this country anyways? A chubby rural white guy.

I agree that ourguys need to stay away, it’s a trap. He’s not /ourguy/ though. And we also now have confirmation that at least 2/3 of the “victims” were of a certain group.

If you are in a dangerous situation like that, you do what you have to do. I think he’s most likely to get off. The video is pretty clear.

diconez
diconez
Reply to  Exile
4 years ago

agreed wholeheartedly.

Exile
Exile
Reply to  Exile
4 years ago

Line, Screwtape & Dutch – I just kicked the tires and upic.works is online. You can start with invites – I’ll do mine here. This is the public forum side of our membership blog/forum site. Registration required to view content but it’s self-registration via email verification (use a caps, lower, number, symbol password). Email admin@ the URL if there are any glitches. Z & all others welcome. Not the same style as here – less topical/political at least in concept, more about the UPIC lifestyle (undeclared intentional physical community – you pick your neighbors, if you like), 5th Political Theory,… Read more »

Teeshawn
Teeshawn
Member
Reply to  Exile
4 years ago

Well said, thank you

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
4 years ago

“Like James Fields, we have another naive and impressionable young white man facing life in a cage, because he was convinced that doing something is always better than doing nothing….” ———————————————- My blood boils as I type this. But goddammit – it needs to be said. That kid IS a martyr. Like it or not, that is what he is. He was sent to you by God, gift wrapped on a silver platter. If the Dissidents had any smarts they would see that and take that gift and run with it. They’d organize an alternative to Go-Fund-Me. They’d be on… Read more »

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Glenfilthie
4 years ago

I think you are right, whites need to protest for the kid at his trial, organize around him, use him as a symbol.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  sentry
4 years ago

Exactly if the blue won’t back this kid then it will show the people once and for all that the cops aren’t on our side…That’s what should be pushed really hard on this also…

Alzaebo
Reply to  sentry
4 years ago

Wouldn’t a massive crowd at the trial be nice.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 years ago

OJ trial white version, impactwise

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Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Glenfilthie
4 years ago

I think normies still harbored some delusion that the BLMfa crowd existed outside of the system, that it was just weakness in the system and that an election or two would clear it up. While there is no golden bullet to disabuse them of the notion, this comes close. They’re now forced to have a conversation with their relations to be careful because the system is out to get them, that all the CivNat nonsense beliefs in the world will not be enough to save them.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Glenfilthie
4 years ago

Z’s not writing the kid off, and there’s little he can do with the heft he’s currently got. HOWEVER, I have an idea: Most donations to Kyle are listed as “anonymous”. What if we all donated (doesn’t matter how much; give $1 if you don’t have any money) and listed our “name” each time as “thezman.com” or “The Z Blog”? This mass-action could drive hundreds or thousands of new readers to this site, so each donation would benefit Kyle AND the Zman AND our cause. What say you all? Good idea? Should we pull the trigger on it?

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Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Jim Smith
4 years ago

Notice the downvotes on this simple idea? Because fundamentally people, even our people lack courage. DO SOMETHING Z!11!! But keep my name out of it nigga I ain’t tryin’ to get doxxed. So many of you, sorry to say, are a f-cking joke. You are on an anonymous message board beating your chest over this kid. Who are you? You ready to ‘do something’? Take a stand, come out of the shadows. Why is Z the guy that needs to ‘go first’ like all other people egging the guys to take action from the comfort of their couch. I will… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

Apex – Mine was one of the downvotes, but not for the reasons you assume. I already donated privately. Z appears to be taking a wait-and-see approach here, which is his right, but when/if/how he decides to support Rittenhouse, it’s on him. I don’t feel we can or should use Z’s name without his consent, nor do I feel the need to hide behind his name or permission to donate.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  3g4me
4 years ago

That’s pretty convoluted reasoning, 3g4me, especially as justification to oppose a team effort on behalf of both Kyle and the Z Blog.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

Oddly enough, anyone executing on my idea will remain anonymous. So why not do it? There doesn’t seem to be any downside to the idea. I’m puzzled.

Last edited 4 years ago by Jim Smith
Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Jim Smith
4 years ago

there isn’t any down side to publicly associating KR’s defense with “da ebil white supremacist websitez”?

No down side if you care more about traffic here than about his likelihood of actually winning his case.

by all means support the guy please, but publicly associating him with badthinkers right now is absolutely screwing him over and making his situation worse.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

I didn’t down vote but not really for the idea until Z steps up and says I am going to donate all my subscribe star earning for the month to this boys defense and can my readers at least match it…Then I would donate again in his name…

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Lineman
4 years ago

Why does Z have to do anything with respect to my idea or supporting Kyle? He’s already doing more than anyone else here by founding this blog and putting his ideas on it almost every day.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Jim Smith
4 years ago

And we could all send the money we were going to send to zman this month…

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Bilejones
4 years ago

Dipshit reply to a useful, helpful idea, Bile.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Jim Smith
4 years ago

Mea culpa, I did misread your original post, but my point still stands which is I see lots of chest thumping here with the ‘enough is enough, take a stand’ mindset. Be the change you want to see in the world. Do something yourself. You needn’t come here and talk about it. Use your real name to make a donation. Go test your ninja skills under cover of darkness while wearing a mask to either be a disinformation agent or a straight up menace with direct action efforts on these commies. Like John Lennon said: It’s easy if you try…… Read more »

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

No offense taken, Apex, and I’ll be quite happy to donate to Kyle’s defense fund in my own name. However, my idea of donating “in the name of” this blog does far more good for Kyle, for the Z Blog, and for our cause. I think I’ll do it, once the lawyer representing Kyle is all set up, and my “name” will be this blog. Hopefully it will draw people here to see what it’s all about.

Frip
Member
Reply to  Jim Smith
4 years ago

Your plan is a good one Jim Smith. Especially as it would bring readers to this space. But I wouldn’t do it unless Z gave the ok.

Exile
Exile
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

AP, we understand why you’re a voice for caution here but no one is encouraging anyone to pop off in a lone inchoate rage-fest. We’ve been the guys preaching against that all along. The 2A community has to get its shit together as a group and do what this kid did in an organized fashion with large-group presence and discipline or its going to be exposed as a LARP. We’ve heard a lot of tough talk about what guys around here and elsewhere will do when shit gets real. It already has. And a 17 year-old kid is the one… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Glenfilthie
4 years ago

Nick Sandmann’s lawyer Lin Wood is representing Kyle and is already working to organize fundraising efforts on his behalf.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
4 years ago

Apparently after the skirmish the cops were shaking the kid’s hand and gave him some food.
The next day they arrested him.
Just something to remember.

Last edited 4 years ago by Chet Rollins
Drake
Drake
Reply to  Chet Rollins
4 years ago

The cops are just errand boys. The DA and politicians decided this kid would suffer for the sin of being on the wrong side. I don’t know if it’s another Soros bought DA or just a wannabe.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Drake
4 years ago

“I don’t know if it’s another Soros bought DA or just a wannabe.”

Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by simple flocking behavior. Soros’ direct reach is indeed vast but his ideological reach is virtually limitless.

Last edited 4 years ago by Bill_Mullins
Phoenix
Phoenix
Reply to  Drake
4 years ago

Yea sure, it’s not like the cops chose their career or anything.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Chet Rollins
4 years ago

The cops themselves, by standing down, are shameful. This kid is much more of a man than they are.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 years ago

Yeah, and after 20 years of imprisonment, he’ll be a hell of a force to recon with when he gets released. 🙁

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

If you are into resistance is futile, it must be depressing. Rittenhouse is a national hero. Even a kangeroo court will not be able to convict him. His greatest threat will be State-sanctioned murder while in custody.

Last edited 4 years ago by Jack Dobson
Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 years ago

They’ll just give him the James Fields treatment and appoint a prosecutor as his public defender. Remember the trial scene in Idiocracy? Something like that.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
4 years ago

He’s going to be well-represented. The State has stepped in it with this one, and I have absolutely no faith in the judicial system although I am familiar with it. Look for his name to be memoryholed and bail ASAP. The State would love to murder this one while he is custody but probably can’t.

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 years ago

Lin Wood is on Twitter asking for family contact information to help organize his defense. That will be much better than the public defender.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Barnard
4 years ago

Great. I will donate to any fund associated with Wood.

TammyFan
TammyFan
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 years ago

Kyle Rittenhause Legal Defense: https://www.givesendgo.com/GUCZ

TammyFan
TammyFan
Reply to  TammyFan
4 years ago

It was up to $65000 around 8PM. It may take multiple attempts to reach the website.

Schildgen
Schildgen
Reply to  TammyFan
4 years ago

Gunowners of America announced they are helping with his defense.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 years ago

I have absolutely no faith in the judicial system although I am familiar with it.

I have no faith in the judicial system because I am familiar with it.

Alzaebo
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
4 years ago

Driving While White?

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
4 years ago

He’s not getting a public defender. Would YOU let him get a public defender? Shame on you if so. People all over america, are absolutely ready to support this kid. Right now just looking for the best funding vehicle He appears to already have been offered top grade pro bono defense anyway, but if that falls through or if money helps he’ll get it. Anyone able but unwilling to help should absolutely turn off their internet and stop making cute ethnostate posts and quit LARPing like they ever gave a shit about our people. Go grill or go full Jerry… Read more »

Last edited 4 years ago by Anonymousse
RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 years ago

The Proud Boys got four years for defending themselves in a street scuffle in which no one was injured and no one involved pressed charges.

Last edited 4 years ago by RoBG
Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  RoBG
4 years ago

Yes. Where were we when that happened? Don’t expect a repeat here.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 years ago

Making fu fun of the Proud Boys with Z

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Rwc1963
4 years ago

Missing the point. Hours before McInnes spoke a group calling themselves “Metropolitan Anarchist Coordinating Council” smashed windows and spray painted their graffitti at the venue. None were charged. At the behest of assistant DA Joshua Steinglass the police “pored over” video to charge just one side in the kerfuffle. The excuse for not charging the vandals? “They wore masks.”

Michael
Michael
Reply to  RoBG
4 years ago

Anyone got any idea how one might send $ to this kids family to fund his defense?

Michael
Michael
Reply to  Michael
4 years ago

Answered my own question: this Is a christian crowdfunding site

https://www.givesendgo.com/GUCZ

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Michael
4 years ago

When I click, it says “No such file directory.”

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

It works for me with Firefox.

TammyFan
TammyFan
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

Keep trying. It was up to $65000 around 8PM.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  TammyFan
4 years ago

I donated.

Roberto
Roberto
Reply to  Michael
4 years ago

Looks like they will easily beat their goal.

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Michael
4 years ago

Any verification that this campaign is being run by someone legit associated with KR family? The site looks solid, but not 100% sure about the campaign organizers themselves yet. Not an accusation in any way, just looking for confirmation

Oldtradesman
Oldtradesman
Reply to  Michael
4 years ago

Legal, authorized representation for Kyle Rittenhouse. Scroll to bottom and donate $20:
https://fightback.law/

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 years ago

There is a difference between resistance is futile and futile resistance.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

He is more a of a man than those gutless cops who let their city burn
Instead of throwing the kid under the bus Mr. Tough guy, maybe the DR thought clowns ought to be offering guidence to young men like Kyle.
Oh wait you can’t because the DR can;’t even be bothered to write up some manifesto or booklets on how to deal with the coming race-class war,.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Rwc1963
4 years ago

You’re quite right. The time for bullshitting is over. We must get our act together immediately.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Rwc1963
4 years ago

I’ve been saying this for a very long time. We don’t get power till we know what we want to use it for. I think the problem is we are pretty aware of just how divided our movement actually is. My version of the movement for example includes heavily regulated nationalist economics, wealth floors and ceilings , morality laws enforced with hefty penalties,a near permanent end to immigration and a host of outright authoritarian policies. I can almost promise you that a huge chunk of the DR would consider me as bad as the other guys even though all I… Read more »

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

Twenty years? ZOG gave James Fields life PLUS 419 years. If Rittenhouse only gets 220 years from the crooked (((justice system))), he’ll be “lucky.”

Craig Austin
Member
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

When the war goes hot, there will be jailbreaks, but this kid will likely die first.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 years ago

Most cops are trash, I am speaking from experience.

Liberty Mike
Member
Reply to  sentry
4 years ago

The thin blue line in Kenosha is downright anorexic.

Charlemagne
Reply to  sentry
4 years ago

Sentry hates cops. This an antifa site?

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  Chet Rollins
4 years ago

I don’t think the Kenosha cops arrested him. One of the absurd charges is that Rittenhouse “fled across state lines to avoid arrest” which simply means, he went home to Illinois. Did he surrender to local police where he lives? Regardless, the Kenosha cops probably support him, but aren’t going to risk their pensions by refusing to process his arrest.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Barnard
4 years ago

Yeah, Rittenhouse fled a whopping 10 miles back to Illinois.

Or in other words, a shorter distance than most people’s morning commute.

Vegetius
Vegetius
Reply to  Barnard
4 years ago

Video shows him jogging away from the site of the second shooting and towards multiple police units stationed about 150m away, then clearly attempting to surrender to the local PD. They appear to have ignored him.

Phoenix
Phoenix
Reply to  Barnard
4 years ago

If I had a dollar for every time I’ve heard this cowardly excuse…

Like the cops are going to get fired to needing to go home sick that day? Or even if they outright refused there’s no way they’d be fired for one offence.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
4 years ago

The police are only as good as the politicians they serve.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Chet Rollins
4 years ago

There are no victims, just volunteers. The kid was a volunteer—to be a victim of the system. He’s a good example of a bad example for us. All of what Z-man said may be true. I watched the video and the kid did just about everything wrong wrt tactics and self protection. He is now in for a world of hurt which might well have been avoided, while succeeding in his goal of protecting “property”—if he was protecting property—he was assaulted in the middle of the street, and I’m not certain I could see much of anything to be protected… Read more »

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

The moral of this story is if you are identified while white, you are going to jail.
If he just had a simple mask and escaped into the darkness, there’s a good chance no one would have been the wiser. Just a few more corpses to add to the pile.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Chet Rollins
4 years ago

There are many lessons to be learned here. Yours is one. Z-man’s another. Mine is valid as well. Before the day is out others will comment and “teach”.

Through all my teacher’s, I am made wiser.

BTP
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
4 years ago

yeah, Chet. I think he was part of the silly Liberarian support of BLM – there is footage of those jack wagons acting to protect them so long as they didn’t burn businesses down, I believe. There is a significant pro-gun, anti-cop, pro_BLM movement out there – there was a case of another White guy in Chattanooga who was pinched by the cops for carrying an AR concealed without a permit, as I recall.

I think he was just doing this stupid civ-nat thing and didn’t know what he was getting in to.

Firewire7
Firewire7
Reply to  Chet Rollins
4 years ago

This story would be so different if the youth were familiar with Francis Marion, the Swamp Fox, who gave the British Red Coats in South Carolina fits by striking and fading into the glens, only to emerge and strike again.
With his team.

Thats how to win in a revolution.

Sid
Sid
Member
Reply to  Firewire7
4 years ago

The old snipe, and fade.

Calsdad
Calsdad
Reply to  Firewire7
4 years ago

Yeah – the kid went in by himself , that was mistake #1. He got interviewed on camera, that was also a mistake. As already noted here – he was doing his dumb civnat thing and got screwed for it. I’ve seen people in other forums pointing out that the Israelis will setup snipers and just start peppering “protestors” with .22LR rounds in their extremities. Something like that is what this kid should have been doing if he was going to go it alone. And he should have been doing it from on top of a roof – in the… Read more »

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Calsdad
4 years ago

Did you even bother with the video or any familiarity with the facts before calling a heroic young man dumb? KR isn’t some psychotic jogger out to murder random people. He shot three scumbags in CLEAR self defense. What the hell are you talking about? Did you hear some CNN narrative about a “vigilante” out “hunting” protestors and not only take that seriously but start thinking it sounds like a great political move for our side. Are you thinking what we need right now is a white supremacist beltway sniper? I’m hoping you’re actually drunk, because I’ve seen you say… Read more »

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Firewire7
4 years ago

Yeah, well, the British Red Coats didn’t have Predator drones, satellites, Google Earth, and 24-7-365 NSA surveillance, either…

Charlemagne
Reply to  Xman
4 years ago

Xma
US forces in Afghanistan do and have fared poorly against cave dwellers. If there ‘s a will, there’s a way.

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Charlemagne
4 years ago

That’s a fair point, and a lot of people make a similar argument when arguing that FedGov should be afraid of the armed citizens rising up — the Vietnamese, the Iraqis, the Afghans gave ’em hell. But that argument ignores the fact that these opponents had ideological/religious cohesion, and also racial, cultural and language unity. Bunch of white guys with Remington 700s and pickup trucks aren’t exactly like the Vietcong or the Taliban. It isn’t going to be too difficult for FedGov to infiltrate them. Not to mention the fact that FedGov is willing and able to deploy a stupendous… Read more »

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Chet Rollins
4 years ago

Let us hope that this young man doesn’t end up a martyr for our cause or kicking off something really bad.
Given he know has a solid defense and resources, I think his odds are decent.

Last edited 4 years ago by abprosper
BTP
Member
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

Yeah, well. With respect to tactics, the fact is he was set upon by a mob and he walked away without injury while taking three of the mob out of the fight. He even decided not to shoot the guy who put his hands up in the middle of a gunfight, which, if you’ve ever been in that sort of training, is not a trivial accomplishment. So, complaining about his tactics misses the point. The point is that he was naïve to be there in the first placed that people on our side who demand action are simply looking for… Read more »

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  BTP
4 years ago

………….

Last edited 4 years ago by ProZNoV
Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  BTP
4 years ago

Complaining about the tactics is the essence of the issue wrt nativity of the boy. He was ill equipped for the “mission”—as in he was not trained. Therefore, he *was* there. In the street. Surrounded by hostiles. With no understanding or situational awareness. In short, cannon fodder. As to taking out three of the mob, that was luck. He allowed a hostile figure (several actually) to attack him from behind. That the attackers were as naive and ill equipped for a bodily attack as he was to defend himself, is again lucky for him. To mistake good fortune for skill… Read more »

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

None of this seems relevant to me. Whether his tactics were right or not isn’t the point of the story.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

Cannon fodder? Rittenhouse isn’t the one with holes in his body. Three of the bad guys are.

diconez
diconez
Reply to  BTP
4 years ago

so the anglo keeps fleeing then. or waiting for magic democracy to end all this in november.

not that there has to be helter skelter. but more than just “let’s move somewhere else”.

Last edited 4 years ago by diconez
Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  BTP
4 years ago

If what you describe is accurate, it greatly strengthens a case of self-defense I would think. I’d like to see him convicted — only of “unlawful discharge of a firearm within city limits” or a similar misdemeanor.

Charlemagne
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 years ago

Ben,

I’d like him to be awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

At least three of them didn’t win, unless martyrdom was their aim, which I doubt.

Gravity Denier
Gravity Denier
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

Most of us can agree that young Mr. Rittenhouse was naive, probably with a head full of protectionist fantasies. And his method of acting out should be discouraged. But … this is a crisis we shouldn’t waste. A few years ago James Fields, Jr., in a mock trial, received four life sentences for his role at the Charlottesville rally. A lot of griping ensued from d-rightists, but as far as I recall, there was no organized effort to reverse the totalitarian verdict. Now it seems to be a different story. Judging from the comments posted online, Rittenhouse is talked of… Read more »

diconez
diconez
Reply to  Gravity Denier
4 years ago

there was some appeal for Fields, however it dissipated as the government pretty much shut him down. plus it was a more complex case, harder to prove basement-nazi-faced Fields was only trying to escape by running over the fat lefty girl, with barely any evidence. then again, if the last few dead nwords prove anything, is that Fields could have appeared innocent with massive spin. meanwhile Tucker supports Rittenhouse. the civnats are talking about him positively, he isn’t even a dissident. indeed, let’s catch a damn wave, instead of sulking on keyboards. no violence nor tikithor nor 2a crap, just… Read more »

Phoenix
Phoenix
Reply to  diconez
4 years ago

‘A few token browns’. WTF is wrong with people??

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

Latest info is that Kyle was part of a group protecting some businesses, but for some reason he stepped away from the group, and the cops would not let him rejoin them, leaving him out there in the street on his own to defend himself…

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Dutch
4 years ago

So cut of the prey from the herd and then let the hyenas chase him down…I wouldn’t put it past the corrupt fuckers…

diconez
diconez
Reply to  Dutch
4 years ago

makes more sense, though then again the prosecutors have their tricks.

diconez
diconez
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

like i said many times earlier, martyrs are precisely victims. not helter skelter cosplayers. that said, Rittenberg does have a better case than most. specially in the court of public opinion, if not on the legal bench. to be fair, it’s really cucked to argue that just because antifa will jail him, we lost the optics battle. heck, even the Fields incident was doubtful, and he was not photogenic to begin with. yes, all cynical talk while a young man could be in jail for life. but it will come to all of us if we don’t do better. and… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

Why the downvotes? What CompSci said is valid. Of course I hope the kid beats the charges. I’ll admit I’ve only seen a few news reports. A more complete picture will emerge of what he actually did. When I first heard the story I thought: “Teen kid protecting family’s gas station or store.” Now I find out he is from 20 miles away. That means, most likely, he was in Kenosha looking for trouble and he found a bit more than he bargained for 🙁

Phoenix
Phoenix
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 years ago

Try researching what happen before you speculate-wrongly.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Phoenix
4 years ago

You obviously don’t understand – Ben’s a secret king.

Charlemagne
Reply to  3g4me
4 years ago

But a public layabout…

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

“I’m not blaming the victim per se. “ Now I’m not doing this thing BUT [immediately does this exact thing] “And as I’ve stated before, you want a weapon, learn how the hell to use it or leave it in the safe—but never venture out with it into a violent, fluid situation such as this was without a team to watch your back. One man in the field is an easy target. Get a team, drill.” If I “drill” enough with my “team” could I learn to successfully kill two armed felons attacking me… then blow another’s arm off when he… Read more »

Last edited 4 years ago by Anonymousse
tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Chet Rollins
4 years ago

The number one attribute of a cop is they follow orders. They do what they are told. Every aspect of a PD from the politicians to the foot soldiers and academy is designed to weed out people who aren’t “team players” which is another way of saying “follows orders” It is one of the main reasons they are structured like the military and use military names. The cops are absolutely OUT OF CONTROL. They are shooting dogs and people like it’s going out of style. But every single time the SHTF, these cretins run and are nowhere to be seen.… Read more »

T. Morris
T. Morris
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

In a better world, not only would the mayor be hanging from a tree, but also this prosecutor.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  T. Morris
4 years ago

Don’t forget about our favorite jogger. 2 good men are sitting in prison! Michael Drejka is still sitting in prison. The two African thugs who murdered John Weed got friggin probation! Probation for murder. That’s the world we live in. Oh yeah, we also live in the world where 5yo children are shot point blank in the head. The lying (((press))) has the damned nerve of saying it was a drug deal gone wrong just like the torture and murder of women and children in South Africa are burglaries gone wrong.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

During the lockdown, when cops were rarely seen on the streets, I think crime actually decreased in my city. I attribute this to people being at home which discouraged burglaries, porch piracy and vandalism. Blacks are less than 3% of the population so there is almost no violent crime. A local park had street parking blocked off to discourage visitors. When the parking ban was lifted, throngs of people returned to the park, many parking in poorly marked no parking zones. The local police wasted no time in writing hundreds of parking tickets to make up for lost revenue. “To… Read more »

maxsnafu
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

Cops obey whoever signs their paychecks.

Charlemagne
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

Tars,
I’ve been a cop in deep South Georgia for thirty two years. The way you and other posters here describe local law enforcement is alien to me. Those anarchist cretins would be in for an ass whoopin’ if they destroyed property or assaulted anyone here. Guess that explains why we’ve avoided that plague.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Chet Rollins
4 years ago

And those same cops will be on the stand, lying for the Prosecution. It’s hard to tell someone shaking like a leaf after something like that….take the coffee, but keep your mouth firmly shut except when you say “I need a lawyer.” Cops aren’t there for you. They’re there to make a case anywhere it can be found. They love low hanging fruit. I’m sure another set came from either the state police or the precinct and waved off the beat cops so they could “ask a few questions.” All of them would serve you on a platter to save… Read more »

Member
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

Yeah, this is why I can’t be moved to care about the local yahoos burning Portland either. White shitlibs elect traitors like our mayor Ted Wheeler and this guy in Kenosha. Fuck em all. Let it burn.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  pozymandias
4 years ago

Burn baby burn!

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

Here’s a fun music video just along those lines. And it even includes a “dumb white guy”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Adgx9wt63NY

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

A white city with a Dem mayor is not a white city.

Exile
Exile
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

I’m cautiously optimistic this kid may not get the Full Moishe from the local cops. He looks to have been an aspiring cop.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Exile
4 years ago

That doesn’t mean anything. The DA made the decision to charge him. It is entirely up to him and the judge.
In a sane world, the judge would throw the charges out.
The question is, have BLM sufficiently pissed off the population to where there is no chance 12 random people will vote to convict?

Last edited 4 years ago by tarstarkas
tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE
Never talk to the police under any circumstances.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

They are mages. Any cash in your wallet magically vanishes in the evidence room 😀

Linda S Fox
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

One tiny comment – NEVER say “I need a lawyer”. That does NOT trigger the police to stop interrogating you.
What makes the difference, and turns anything you say into inadmissible, is the words, “I want a lawyer”. Follow up any further questioning by saying, “I refuse to talk without a lawyer.”
Just expressing a desire or concern about getting a lawyer doesn’t protect you.

b123
b123
Reply to  Chet Rollins
4 years ago

The pigs are not your friend.

White civnats are desperate for allies. They are still in denial that it’s just them… and mostly men at that. No based Hispanics. No hard working Asians. No “Blue Line”.

Whites have no friends and we need to realize that our real friends have been right beside us all along – ourselves.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  b123
4 years ago

Whites have no friends and we need to realize that our real friends have been right beside us all along – ourselves.
Exactly right which is why I’ve said for so long now that we need to be coming together and build Community because us scattered gets us picked off one by one us together gives us a fighting chance where if we die at least we did it on our feet with Brothers to the left and right of us and our deaths might be remembered like the 300…

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Lineman
4 years ago

I’m not entirely convinced we don’t have allies. East Asians don’t want roaming packs of thugs setting their shit on fire either. They aren’t us and they may not be our “friends,” but I am not sure they are enemies either. Generally speaking, East Asians are not generally the ones constantly trashing us. Other Asians do, like Indians.
Of course, all of this should be a moot point. It’s our goddamned country!

Phoenix
Phoenix
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

They still vote leftist!

diconez
diconez
Reply to  Lineman
4 years ago

agreed, or at least sounds better than pretend revolution through blogging and/or voting.

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Lineman
4 years ago

Dying while losing everything you fought for sounds a lot more fun when you’re just sitting there in a comfy chair imagining all the swelling music and the rad slow motion. Even that original literally Donald Trump guy allied with those hard working Asians over in Nippon and some damn dirty a-rabs too… and even garlicky southern europeans BLECH! I guess he was a cuck and a civnat right? Thanks anyway but I’ll take whatever allies I can get. Is this supposed to be a viable political movement or Aum Shinrikyo? Because if the big plan you’re working from is… Read more »

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diconez
diconez
Reply to  b123
4 years ago

only few nonwhite allies really.

and yeah cops are the system. never understood why whites always trusted them so much, perhaps because they worked well for a while when they were near monoracial/cultural.

in fact the hope the kid has is because he is a civnat and aspiring cop, ergo the system might forgive him. the civnat media is besides currently blasting that the kid is not a white supremacist nor dissident, so there’s that. he might have to denounce his heresies and more, though.

Shane
Shane
4 years ago

I understand the sentiment of what you’re saying Z but at the same time it seems as if it’s just an acceptance that we’re the Boers now, there’s no escaping and you politely accept your dispossession, and slow extinction. Rushing in blindly surely doesn’t help, and we need to be aware of the risks. I totally understand that, but the vaunted option here that we can build things in real life is wishful too. What’s to stop the left finding your functioning community and strangling it in its crib with a little bit of mandated diversity. On a tangent I’m… Read more »

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Shane
4 years ago

> What’s to stop the left finding your functioning community and strangling it in its crib with a little bit of mandated diversity.  Working the bureaucracy and lawfare to make it extremely painful for our enemies to accomplish anything if targeted. Even if you lose, the enemy wasted an order of magnitude more resources. Learn subtle Dog-whistling phrases to find possible allies, then turn it up a notch Show subtle contempt for the ruling class religion in public without looking like a cartoon villain Sound as innocuous as possible. Think “Home brewing Dad’s Club” or “Men’s Conservation Society”. Do normal… Read more »

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Chet Rollins
4 years ago

These are five very good points. Unfortunately, until such a time as YT realizes that he must operate in quite a secret fashion and that he is indeed hated, we’ll still have a struggle on our hands. My biggest fear is that YT, en masse, will never get over being called ‘racist’ and thus never wake up. However, this sort of thing can be put into practice right away. And it is good to do so, even just to condition your mind to the new order. The thing is, a small community of disciplined, hard-working people with the dissident mindset… Read more »

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  OrangeFrog
4 years ago

At some point, when you’ve made such a community, you’d need to be prepared to defend it. 
Thats part and parcel of building a Community which is why location matters…Not only for the people aspect but a whole host of other things…

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Lineman
4 years ago

I believe that much like the word ‘racist’ or ‘Nazi’, the word ‘community’ has been heavily overused. I have lived in many places that proudly proclaimed they were ‘communities’… But the individuals hardly knew each other. Effectively, they were blocks of houses connected by paths, roads and telegraph lines, but little else. You are indeed correct about choosing a suitable location, as well as tightly vetting the sort of people who can join. Of course, a good start is always to move to a smaller rural setting and get to know the people – usually far more conservative. In the… Read more »

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Lineman
4 years ago

Jam tomorrow, jam yesterday, but never jam today

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Anonymousse
4 years ago

If you have a problem Mouse we can always meet f2f and we can have a nice chat about it…

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Lineman
4 years ago

You seem like a decent enough guy. Don’t be ridiculous.

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Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Anonymousse
4 years ago

What’s ridiculous about meeting in person I do it all the time with a lot of people on here…

diconez
diconez
Reply to  OrangeFrog
4 years ago

the statue falling today means the small community hill to die on will get smaller with time later.

so if we must retreat to the wilderness, yet again, at least let’s move our totems too, instead of abandoning them and having our young ones see our former pride destroyed.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  diconez
4 years ago

the statue falling today means the small community hill to die on will get smaller with time later. You’re correct. However, it may not go all the way. It is highly probable that white communities with strong bonds will be able to hold their own against an increasingly diverse and infighting government. But this absolutely depends on whites learning to play the race game – this is a necessary condition. Suppose though, that it does get smaller, in all fairness this is not a bad thing. Community is very hard to scale so perhaps dying around a small amount of… Read more »

diconez
diconez
Reply to  Chet Rollins
4 years ago

do we really think we can out-Gramsci the Gramscians?

they are all 5 good subversive ideas, true. but without a catalyst to practice them such as Kenosha, all remain in ebooks. after all, the Gramscians took over using as catalyst the Vietnam cannonfodder, as the dead and the vets on both sides became saintly victims that needed avenging – with their fancy New Left ideas.

BTP
Member
Reply to  Shane
4 years ago

Shane, you are exactly right. Any community we build will be targeted under Jim Snow laws for destruction. I think Z is correct when he talks about secret societies.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  BTP
4 years ago

They will not be able to target us when we are sovereign.

diconez
diconez
Reply to  BTP
4 years ago

fair enough, but such an org will have to be secret enough not to be found out, yet massive enough to provide covert/subtle resistance. very fight club, of course.

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Phoenix
Phoenix
Reply to  BTP
4 years ago

I see this arguement all the time here and it’s rediculous. I live in a small white town. If 100 of you moved into my area, no one would pay any attention-why would they? They wouldn’t know anything about you.

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Phoenix
4 years ago

They would never notice a thing! Why noticing movements of groups if dissidents would require the intelligence gathering capability of some kind of Federal Bureau of Investigation and even if something like that did exist it’s not like they can use the resources of big tech companies to monitor the entire internet!

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nick110
nick110
Reply to  Shane
4 years ago

Perhaps look at how normal people lived in Occupied France in 1944 or the Soviet Union before the collapse. Accumulating wealth and skills is a good career option. Martyrdom, not so much.

diconez
diconez
Reply to  nick110
4 years ago

only few can be martyrs, those who don’t do wealth and skills but still can serve the community this way.
thus the genepool also gets cleaner. win win.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Shane
4 years ago

Building a community can help keep you alive during the interregnum of chaos after the collapse. But it is not the road to victory over tyranny. For that, a different strategy is needed. Take heart. That winning strategy is known and will play it’s role when the time comes. Yes, be part of the solution, but you must stay alive first.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  TomA
4 years ago

Actually Building Community is the road to Victory…Your not looking at the big picture of what Community actually is…It’s not just a place it’s what is built in the heart of each man in that Community to lay down his life for his Brothers if he is called upon to do so knowing that his family will be taken care of and they will sing of his exploits when they talk and remember the ones who made their lives possible…It’s so much more and deeper than most can comprehend so they either naysay it or push back against it…

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Lineman
4 years ago

A healthy community can only endure in a nation free of tyranny. Yes, it has it’s place, but it’s lower on the priority list than simple survival.The Jews have always had strong tight-knit communities, but that did not keep them out of the gas chambers.

jimmy
jimmy
Reply to  TomA
4 years ago

Yes Tom.
” If any question why we died, 
Tell them, because our fathers lied”.
Rudyard Kipling

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  TomA
4 years ago

Did they fight for their Community or did they let their guns get taken away…Also Community is going to be the only thing that keeps you alive unless you’re really good at hiding…We have different perspectives because I have a family to take care of and I am invested in their future so I want Community around me when it all goes to shit…

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Lineman
4 years ago

It’s beginning to look like “building community” is becoming nothing more than an all purpose cope.

Anyone who does anything is stupid because they should have been “building community” instead and especially anyone who says I should ever actually do anything risky is extra stupid… don’t they know I’m building the hell out of community?!

It’s like people don’t know history. Typically one side gets more and more
guns, influence with the military, political power, social control, institutions… but the other side BUILDS COMMUNITY until they have so much community that they win the battle!

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Anonymousse
4 years ago

You agents always hate the idea of white people grouping up because it scares the shit out of your masters..

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  TomA
4 years ago

“that did not keep them out of the gas chambers.”

Well something did.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  TomA
4 years ago

Community can and will lead to nation.

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
4 years ago

Have a 2 yr old grandson. IF we get to the point several years from now that this nation actually exists – this essay may well be a version of ‘The Talk’ to him about law & rights as a white male.
One potential silver lining in a very dark cloud – the NBA stopped playing whatever it is they do – perhaps that will go on forever.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Stranger in a strange land
4 years ago

There are also rumblings of players refusing to play college football.

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

there is this which pegs the stupidiy meter at 11
NHL Postpones Playoff Games in Protest over Jacob Blake Shooting
…decision came after an effort organized by the Hockey Diversity Alliance, a group of NHL players whose purpose is “to eradicate systemic racism and intolerance in hockey,” according to its website. 

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Stranger in a strange land
4 years ago

Many white people are far beyond help.

v_cog
v_cog
4 years ago

This is why people who like saying “well, at least he is doing something” need to be shouted down at every opportunity. I appreciate your perspective Z, but I really have to disagree with you here. The only reason that James and Kyle stick out as examples of Jim Snow anarcho-tyranny is because there are only two of them. If we had a thousand people out on the streets at every riot, fully armed and fully prepared to defend themselves like these brave young men, then the system would treat us differently. The “new rules” under our lawless rainbow utopia… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  v_cog
4 years ago

There is a middle ground here. We can have our martyr, but we need to learn from his mistakes. If one simply is inspired (as is the purpose of martyrs) to take to the streets with firearms without training, purpose, preparation. Then we will repeat those mistakes and not be successful.

v_cog
v_cog
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

Agree completely that anybody out on the streets with weapons should be fully trained and understand the rules of engagement. However that is not enough. Kyle was clearly trained and demonstrated incredible restraint, yet he is still being charged with Murder One. Beyond preparation, what we really need is the willingness to sacrifice our lives and our freedoms for a cause greater than ourselves. Knowing how unfairly the system will treat us, knowing the dire consequences of self-defense, and yet still going out there anyway. I think things will get bad enough for whites in this country where large numbers… Read more »

Valley Lurker
Valley Lurker
Reply to  v_cog
4 years ago

And one of the lessons is as soon as you have done something you cannot take back, i.e. capped a commie, blend into the night because you will not receive fair judicial treatment. A 17 year old would be unlikely to understand this with the garbage he has been fed, but we can all learn this. Do not put your face out there ahead of time as much as possible either, if you must.

v_cog
v_cog
Reply to  Valley Lurker
4 years ago

This. One thing I expect to start seeing is random acts of violence perpetrated against these scumbags, from parties unknown and unidentified. Perhaps things haven’t yet gotten bad enough for anyone to take action like that, but it is certainly heading in that direction.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Valley Lurker
4 years ago

Yup.

Leave your cellphone at home, dress in anonymous black clothing, and plan on escape and evasion all the way back to your means of transportation.

brunob
brunob
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

leave any card with an RFID chip in it home as well. bank card, enhanced driver license, etc.
this tech will get used.

Vegetius
Vegetius
Reply to  v_cog
4 years ago

He did what he did. And in so doing opened space for you to do something.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

And to drive home the point we can’t live amongst these people anymore so we either separate or one side ends up dead…There still will be casualties on both sides if we separate but not anything like if we don’t…

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v_cog
v_cog
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

I would love some insight on how to do that using this story as leverage. I tried that with some of my own family using the Cannon Hinnant and Frederick Fair stories, and just got the typical NPC response that “only white supremacists care about these stories”.

Exile
Exile
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

Exactly. 20% may even be more than we need. About half of any population basically cucks to power unless it’s utterly miserable.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  v_cog
4 years ago

The Right traditionally commits violence through lawfully appointed authorities in a polity (there are exceptions, such as lynchings, but in general whites are not mindless rioters). So a good first step is to vote Trump into office for another four years. I’m not saying that will solve anything, but once he’s voted into office again, we’ll see where things go.

v_cog
v_cog
Reply to  Jim Smith
4 years ago

It’s a good way to buy some time at least, but even if he is re-elected I’m not just waiting around to see where things go. We need to be prepared for when things start resolving themselves outside of “lawfully appointed authorities in a polity.” Getting the hell away from major urban centers is a good place to start.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
4 years ago

The anti-White pogroms and domestic terrorism are indeed the handiwork of the State and the Inner Party. The hollow words of Civic Nationalists and the poisonous lies of the communists cannot overcome the actual narrative about the War on Whites. Kyle Rittenhouse is a-moulderin’ in the jail, Kyle Rittenhouse is a-moulderin’ in the jail, Kyle Rittenhouse is a-moulderin’ in the jail, Kyle Rittenhouse is a-moulderin’ in the jail, His oppressors go marching on. The State has decided to unleash domestic terrorism on Whites. The next stop will be full on genocide. Literally nothing can be done against the State at… Read more »

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 years ago

The good thing about all of this is that on long term the majority of white americans will become racist.

jimmy
jimmy
Reply to  sentry
4 years ago

Or, maybe just a realist.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  jimmy
4 years ago

People becoming realists would be an incredible improvement.

jimmy
jimmy
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 years ago

Yes Sir.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 years ago

DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! PAY the man!

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  jimmy
4 years ago

Realist, racist, same thing.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Wolf Barney
4 years ago

Functionally, it is.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 years ago

I certainly agree with your concluding sentence. The state, hell, the entire AWR establishment, is complicit in what’s happening in Kenosha and what happened to Rittenhouse.

diconez
diconez
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 years ago

to add to this, the fact that Rittenhouse is a civnat may build a bridge by which at least enough of them are enlightened by race-realism enough to bulk up our numbers.

Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
Reply to  diconez
4 years ago

diconez sais : “…the fact that Rittenhouse is a civnat may build a bridge by which at least enough of them are enlightened by race-realism enough to bulk up our numbers.”

I personally have no faith in Civic Nationalists ever standing up for White survival. But hey, who knows. Crazier things have happened.

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jim
jim
4 years ago

This kid did a great job. Anybody who starts quibbling about his “tactics” has never been in combat, never done CQB or is such a high level badass Delta Commando that we should all stop arguing. He ran, got jumped…kept his weapon, engaged only direct threats, allowed one guy to go (who I absolutely would have ventilated) and then tried to surrender. He adapted to his situation without training and won. Now he’ll be tried by 12 rather then carried by six. A buddy of mine who is a Delta Commando and actual badass was working to proof the procedures… Read more »

nick110
nick110
4 years ago

It’s a nice litmus test for conservative media. When they start talking about the constitution, bill of rights, or rule of law (are you listening, Glenn Beck?), I switch off. Brothers Grimm are more relevant.

Alzaebo
Reply to  nick110
4 years ago

Dipsticks think white slaveowners wrote the Bill of Rights, when everybody knows they stole it from Africa.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  nick110
4 years ago

“Conservative media” failed that test so many times they are barred from retesting at this point.

TomA
TomA
4 years ago

Yes to all of this. At some point, reality will overwhelm fantasy and delusion. There are no adults in the room anymore. The police cannot save you from the closet tyranny of corrupt politicians. The manufactured crazy can actually get you killed or imprisoned for acting in self-defense. This is not a drill or a video game. Plan B could be forced upon us sooner rather than later. Be smart, be strong, be ready.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  TomA
4 years ago

Police can be pretty decent when you need low level stuff taken care of, like street dealers and prostitutes rounded up, but pretty worthless for anything even remotely important. Which brings up the point that we could take care of the lower level stuff more effectively with no police…

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
4 years ago

In a civil society, competent police are vital to maintaining stability and predictability. But they are selected and trained to follow orders, which they do even if the politicians giving those orders are corrupt. The problem is not police departments. The problem is corrupt and tyrannical power players in all venues of society. And they are few in number. Focus is the road to salvation.

Phoenix
Phoenix
Reply to  TomA
4 years ago

It’s both

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  TomA
4 years ago

TomA said: “In a civil society, competent police are vital to maintaining stability and predictability”
[Citation needed]
Police in their modern organizational form have only existed 150 years, sometimes only 80-90 years in some localities. Whaddya think we did for the 9,850 years before the London Metropolitan Police Force was formed? This divorcing of citizens from enforcement of the laws of nature and God is a big part of our civilizational decline.

diconez
diconez
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
4 years ago

no we can’t, or at least the lower level stuff can get bad quick if you allow it.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
4 years ago

Okay, where is the white NAACP to which I can donate? One with an official fundraising arm not a go-fund-me account. The organization I’ve been demanding to be created for 10 years. We have to realize that unless you have an ethnic group to fall back on in 21st Century America, you’re done. I don’t tithe at church, I would tithe to this.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

Some neo-Nazi tried to set up a NAAWP some years ago; stupid idea to go along with the Nazi stupid idea. It flopped. But now historical conditions are different (although the Nazi idea is still stupid and socialist). Happily Ostei signaled several days ago that he was working on the concept. Ostei, old buddy? 🙂

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Jim Smith
Jim Smith
4 years ago

Two BIG points in favor of Kyle Ritterhouse: (1) None of the guys he shot are black, and (2) he didn’t shoot the rioter who backed off and held his hands up. Both of these facts will go far to save the young hero.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Jim Smith
4 years ago

A third point in Kyle’s favor-

There are at least two clips of him backing away from Antifa who are charging him prior to him firing.

That’s him trying to de-escalate the situation and giving the Antifa the opportunity to stop advancing or make their own retreat.

Any sane, thinking person understands that Kyle had no choice when he tripped and went to ground and two Antifa continued advancing and attempted to finish him off.

Step on Snek
Step on Snek
4 years ago

What’s even more infuriating than blacks who kill for sport are the whites who rush in to help them.
https://twitter.com/zerosum24/status/1298835432789225474

Libertarians really do need to be rounded up and deported.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Step on Snek
4 years ago

Libertarianism is not synonymous with Leftism, or even liberalism. Stop it. I was a card carrying Libertarian for 20 years and I never was of the ilk you portray and am now here.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

Don’t know about that, I’ve yet to encounter a Libertarian whose core tenant wasn’t the left-wing “race is just a social construct”.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
4 years ago

I am one such. I am a small-l libertarian. I never joined, because clearly much of what they advocate is lunacy. The real world does that to many interesting theoretical ideas.
But you don’t throw out the wheat with the chaff (ok with Libertarianism a better analogy would be one grain of pepper in a bushel of fly shit). I’m still kind of sold on the small government aspect.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 years ago

Keep moving further right, Ben. That which is not robustly and vigilantly defended will fall again to the Enemy. Robust and vigilant defense is incompatible with small limited government.

Irishfarmer
Irishfarmer
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

Libertarianism is in principle Liberalism taken to one possible extreme. I mean, c’mon.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Irishfarmer
4 years ago

My one core understanding was that you are responsible for your actions. So in the case of drug legalization, have at it. But I’m not required to pay for your rehab. That’s not how extreme liberalism works to my understanding. Be we digress here.

diconez
diconez
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

it’s producerist liberalism, at any rate.

if only individuals were indeed self-sustaining wholly hermetically sealed bubbles. but they are not. neither are they ants. nor are they only matter.

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Fournieu
Fournieu
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

You are the exception to the rule. Just as it’s foolish to live by NAXALT around blacks when pattern recognition is more accurate, so too is pattern recognition more accurate when Libertarians are scrutinized. The majority are retards all in on BLM. The Libertarian Party and libertarian media outlets eulogized Garrett Foster, for chrissakes.

Alzaebo
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

Keep punching right and white, people

diconez
diconez
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 years ago

the oldest of white traditions.

which is why the joggers win, they never argue in public about if their looters did wrong or not, as long as their cause is advanced they can even suffer some dead and in jail. whites are more uselessly honorable and punctilious, to the point of cucking in recent generations, specially nordics and their descent. but we should all get better, as all sides of white are being attacked, even the light-looking mixeds…

BTP
Member
Reply to  Step on Snek
4 years ago

Yeah. I was surprised to find the White, pro-gun, Libertarian is probably a BLM supporter. They were also out in commentariat force in favor of the jogger who got rung up in Brunswick, GA.