The Rhythms Of Revolution

People who work with large complex systems understand that you don’t always know what will result from even the smallest change in the system. Usually this lesson is learned the hard way, by making some small change that seems simple, only to find out it caused serious downstream problems. Large complex systems are often highly dependent on initial conditions. Those small changes to the initial state, after they branch through the system, can have a huge impact.

This was a point wiser heads made about the Covid panic. The American economy is a wildly complex nonlinear system. The people in charge of it, the Federal Reserve, have mastered just one small set of inputs. This is why they are so cautious about tinkering with the money supply. They understand that beyond small changes in interest rates, they really don’t know what will happen. Through necessity they have figured out how to buy up distressed assets to keep the asset bubble inflated.

Otherwise, no one understands what is happening in the American economy, outside of their very narrow focus. It’s why the lock downs were an insane idea. What local governments have done is not dissimilar to what the Bolsheviks did to the Russian economy after they gained power. This massive reorganization will not fully play-out for years, maybe decades. Even at this point, no one seems to know how many people are out of work or how many businesses survived.

Something similar may be happening with the culture. Up until this year, the sports entertainment complex was the great distraction. Every type of sporting event enjoyed wide following on television and on-line. It’s always hard to know, given how our ruling class lies about everything, but television ratings for the professional sports leagues were strong enough to keep raising ad rates. The revenues of the sports leagues kept growing, despite decades of growth.

That brings us to now, when the ratings for sports entertainment have suddenly collapsed, even for the marquee events. The NBA, which is the blackest of black sports, cannot draw flies. Keep in mind that the television industry routinely inflates their ratings in their press releases used by the media. The endless celebration of all things black for the last five months seems to not have had the effect they expected. All of the other sports have also seen their ratings collapse.

It is tempting to blame this on the anti-white pogrom that has been foolishly embraced by all the sports leagues. There is certainly part of it. That said, the NFL has tried very hard to minimize this in their presentation. Even the players have realized that it is bad for business. The NHL made the required gestures, but otherwise just operated their business as usual and their ratings were immeasurably small. In other words, it’s not just the anti-white pogrom killing the circus.

The problems facing sports entertainment all of a sudden are an example of the large complex system problem. It turns out that the audience for sport is not just about interest in the product and the quality of the performance. Sports operates within the larger culture, which is a highly complex system. There are rhythms to the culture, which carry things like entertainment through the culture. The lock downs and resulting insanity have broken those rhythms.

It is not just sports entertainment that have seen their model upended by the sudden change in the social rhythms. The first debate show also saw a ratings dip. It was not as big as with sports, but given the amount of pre-game hype, the gap between reality and expectations is every bit as large. For six months the people in charge have been blasting us with anti-Trump agit-prop. Of course, everyone knows Biden is suffering from the early stages of dementia. Yet, not a lot of interest.

The American culture had evolved since the Cold War ended to provide the public with lots of things to keep them busy. For example, the entertainment rackets grew like a weed starting in the 1990’s. People forget that sellouts for sporting events were rare into the 1980’s, then all of a sudden, they were common. There was a time, within living memory, when people had three television channels. Of course, the internet of mass entertainment evolved in this time.

Easily forgotten is that politics as entertainment also grew in this period. In the 1980’s, for example, political junkies had to get by with magazines, the opinion section of the newspaper and the Sunday talk shows. People struggled with the idea of an actor running for political office. Imagine that. The political entertainment complex that evolved since the Cold War has probably been a bigger distraction for the American public than sports or Hollywood.

What seems to have happened is the Covid panic and now the color revolution has broken that system. People are not paying as much attention to these things as they did just a year ago. That means they are not being pulled along by the rhythms of that old system. Think about how many apolitical people that have suddenly been made aware of the reality of race and ethnicity. Put another way, the revolution of 2020 has changed the initial state of the American system.

How this ripples through the system is unknown. The current chaos may not be random at all, but determined by the evolving initial state of white America. In other words, this pogrom we are experiencing may, in fact, be a reaction to the changing attitudes sensed by the ruling class. The woke revolution is about restoring the old initial state, but has instead accelerated the evolution of it. The lock downs provided a better medium in which this evolution can occur.

At this point, the one safe conclusion we can draw is we have passed through a strange chaotic barrier on our way to a new normal. The old order, those old rhythms, are gone for good. That means the social controls that nudged people along toward the results desired by the ruling class are no longer working. All the make-believe excitement the media can generate is not getting people to watch the NBA finals, because it was never about the hype. It was the social structures, those rhythms.

In a complex system like a large human society, when the initial conditions change sufficiently, a new dynamic ensues. The unexpected downstream effects loop back and inform the evolution of those initial conditions. The feedback loop between downstream effects and those evolving initial conditions becomes fuel for the changing state of those initial conditions. This is the revolutionary dynamic. Change fuels more change, until the system collapses in on itself.

When the rulers broke the old rhythms with their lock downs, they started a revolution in the minds of the people over whom they rule. As those minds now evolve, seeing the reality of the world created by their betters, the ruling class is desperately trying to contain the process. Like all radicals, they remain supremely confident they will be the vanguard of this revolution. Like all revolutionaries, they will end up swinging from trees as that is the rhythm of every revolution.

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Durendal
Durendal
27 days ago

The following weeks, months and years are probably going to be very exciting and more than likely scary and possibly bloody.

Sean O.
Sean O.
Reply to  Durendal
27 days ago

There’s already a fair amount of blood in the water.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Sean O.
27 days ago

yeah, where has this guy been the last 4 – 5 months!?

Durendal
Durendal
Reply to  Karl McHungus
27 days ago

What I’m speculating about could make the past few months look like a boy scout campout. You’re thinking to small.

Durendal
Durendal
Reply to  thezman
27 days ago

Yes sir.

Hedidnothingwrong
Hedidnothingwrong
Reply to  thezman
27 days ago

“Sup fellow white Supremacists. I’ve got this cool new group called Stormwaffen that I want to tell you about.We’re all badass cis white males here, and we hate them Jews and Blacks (but not whites). We’ve got guns, knives, sharp sticks, sonic electronic vaporizers. Oh, and we’ve got this merch store which includes mugs and t-shirts. Just put in your credit card and personal information at our website. You can also link your social media to us. We’re going to march on Portland in the next couple of weeks to ‘own the libs.’ Tell all your friends. Join today.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvNaTUEWyTY

When then
When then
Reply to  thezman
27 days ago

When you tell someone to keep their unholy thoughts to themselves, you enforce the Holy System.

miforest
Member
Reply to  When then
27 days ago

thanks for the glowing opinion when then. no sane person wants any of this to get ugly .

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  When then
27 days ago

I think Zguy was using sarcasm to drive a point.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  thezman
27 days ago

Well, I can say one thing. I casually mentioned a couple weeks ago, that in addition to my sidearm, I was gonna toss a long gun into the truck and that I need to get to the range to get it sighted in. Everybody around looked at me. Basically saying, “I did that awhile ago.”
Folks, this is the city, not the rurals. There ain’t no four legged varmints begging to be shot.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Durendal
27 days ago

maybe include something to support your position.

Durendal
Durendal
Reply to  Karl McHungus
27 days ago

The last century. What happens when Marxists take or attempt to take power?

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Durendal
27 days ago

ask Pinochet…

diconez
diconez
Reply to  Karl McHungus
26 days ago

Except Pinochet is dead and the secular democracy he left sold out already.

Higgs Boson
Reply to  Durendal
27 days ago

It depends on whose side the drone operators are on.

Durendal
Durendal
Reply to  Karl McHungus
27 days ago

I think we can probably all agree that we are building towards something very unpleasant. I speculate that what has occurred recently is just a very tiny warm up. It’s just speculation though but history has shown that build ups like we are witnessing now can be very, very unpleasant.

When then
When then
Reply to  Durendal
27 days ago

Durendal don’t bother trying to man them up. It’s hopeless.

miforest
Member
Reply to  When then
27 days ago

when then, your energies should be directed at raising independent healthy resourceful and brave children , and getting them through the chaos that could happen if things really go south. best of luck. faith family friends all need to be supported in these unstable times. godspeed, friend

When Then
When Then
Reply to  miforest
27 days ago

miforest- that is a woman’s answer, not a man’s. Women win by having children. If you are a woman congratulations.

If you are a man….

miforest
Member
Reply to  When Then
26 days ago

you could ask my children which I am. but there may be others here that would give your assessment a glowing recommendation

diconez
diconez
Reply to  When Then
26 days ago

You do know how babies are made right? Including white babies.

That said, I agree that one day we will have to stop hunkering down, and that for now, at least some strong yet peaceful visibility is needed; so normies see there’s an alternative to the system on one hand, and that the alternative supporters look more like Kyle (or Mark Collett) than like Dylann. even Christians came out of the catacombs once in a while, and had soldiers in their ranks before and after taking over.

miforest
Member
Reply to  Durendal
27 days ago

yes, and awful for everyone.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Durendal
27 days ago

well, this all happened before in the late 60’s and early 70’s, so…

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Karl McHungus
27 days ago

Yes and no. Leftist disruption of society, sure. The stage is different. 60s-70s: majority white populace, the general tenor and hue of society was much more civil, the Democrats of that time period would be indistinguish able from today’s right wingers in almost every metric.

Today: opposite of most of the above with the added coarseness of society and a business and media complex that is funding and openly agitating for the chaotic rabble.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Penitent Man
27 days ago

the democrats have always been the democrats.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Karl McHungus
27 days ago

They brought the old south to ruin, then the rust belt, they’re finishing up on the west coast and moving into the new south currently. The locust system.

miforest
Member
Reply to  Karl McHungus
26 days ago

no we were a diffrent nation then . VERY diffrent

Icebergdeadahead
Icebergdeadahead
Reply to  Durendal
27 days ago

Russia’s October Revolution was facilitated by a harsh winter that kept malcontents in their homes. As soon as the weather warmed and people entered the streets in masse, revolution and violence occurred; the Czar abdicated in a matter of weeks. That’s why these lockdowns are going to be hard to relinquish. The ruling class is scared. They think if they let too many people out too quickly, the kinds of protests we’ve seen so far might just be the tip of the iceberg.

BTP
Member
Reply to  Icebergdeadahead
27 days ago

I know people in Alabama, where Chinese Flu is a sideshow to the bearded lady sideshow. The Ancient Governor, who previously had extended the Mask Mandate until the end of September, emerged from her hole in the ground this week and, upon being startled by her shadow, declared five more weeks of Mask Mandate!

Presbyter
Presbyter
Reply to  Icebergdeadahead
27 days ago

Pardon my pedantry, but… It was the February/March Revolution (depending on what calendar one uses) of which the spark was the terrible winter, the horrible casualties of the war so far, and the simple inability of the regime to stock the Petrograd bakeries with bread. The 300 year old Romanov dynasty and the even older Russian monarchy collapsed in a couple of days. The moderates, “constitutionals”, etc formed a government under Kerensky. What happened in October/November was a Bolshevik coup capitalizing on war weariness and the lack of an actual program other liberal democratic talk by the provisional elite. As… Read more »

When then
When then
Reply to  Presbyter
27 days ago

The determined minority already won. The Bolshevik revolution was impossible without the Soldiers Soviets (councils) defecting, without German Gold, without German Troops sparing the Russian Troops who chose Lenin, and above all without a revolutionary party organized and disciplined enough to take power – given the advantages above. No such apparatus exists in America except on the Left, and the online Right Wing enforces “no Fedpoasting” to make sure it never comes into existence. The Future belonged to who showed up, had meetings, organized. That was the Left and they won. A victory the DR helped consolidate. > that is… Read more »

Member
Reply to  When then
26 days ago

I gave you an upvote though some of your other comments have been a bit inflammatory. I agree with you though that the problem with the Right is that it is huge on the internet and can’t be found IRL. I think this originates from the talk radio culture of the 90s actually. Back then many people liked that they could call Rush Limbaugh or one of his imitators and rant about all the things going wrong in the country. It was semi-anonymous and the fact that the show was national kept the focus on Presidential elections, big legislation and… Read more »

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  When then
26 days ago

You stepped some corns. The thing is the DR isn’t even a movement, it has no manifesto, no agenda, no nothing. Just some guys with blogs.
I can’t even point any whites to what the DR is it’s so bad. Tucker is about the only guy we have who we can’t disaffected to.

And what is worse, he’s hated by many DR types.

diconez
diconez
Reply to  Presbyter
26 days ago

Not too dissimilar to the terrible crops in 1780s France.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Durendal
27 days ago

The lockdowns brought to mind the feeling of a hurricane approaching. Empty streets. People huddled up. Same vibe. If anyone here has lived through hurricanes, did you sense the same?

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Falcone
27 days ago

Agree, but when the storm hit all we got was a stiff breeze and some roof tiles knocked off.

Then, we woke up to a world which our betters insisted had been flattened, 9th Ward style, but we could see with our own eyes was fully intact.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  MemeWarVet
26 days ago

Problem of storm metaphor is it breaks down compared with Covid-19. The disease—being invisible—does not go away and demonstrably ends. It is claimed to be lurking, ready to spring upon the unwary, a wolf hidden in the shadows. No amount of pointing to an observable world untouched will placate the fears of the masses.

Rhodok
Rhodok
27 days ago

Is it possible that sports was a uniting feature of the American cultural landscape?
Now that division has reached record levels, maybe people can no longer believe in this (fake) unity. And hence feel less inclined to participate?
Of course the politicalization of sports does not help either.

whitney
Member
Reply to  Rhodok
27 days ago

I think there’s something to that. Before modern media, radio, television we were all separate peoples living separate lives in separate and distinct communities. The television actually brought us together and made us one people, we were all watching the same three channels and identifying with the same stories, and then a giant hammer of the internet came down on it and splintered it into a million fragments. It does seems like sports with the last bastion of that. Now we have to find new community. New meaning.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  whitney
27 days ago

The combination of VHS tapes and Cable TV was the first hammer blow. The internet finished it off.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Epaminondas
26 days ago

This is a very good point, Epa. The first blows came nearly 40 years ago and the digital age completed the atomization of the people. The pathetic attempts to corral thought via Netflix and other new and improved old media has failed because there are too many outlets and other avenues.

When then
When then
Reply to  whitney
27 days ago

You already have the New Community, and new meaninglessness; its here.
This is Moldbug’s solution to The Dire Problem- have people live online, virtually. Give all the minorities but above all the Whites a LARP existence, including DR, online politics, online “work”, etc.

What happened this year was the implementation of Moldbug’s Dire Problem solution. Its good for the JJJJs, bad for the rest.

But it worked.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  When then
27 days ago

When Then and Whitney, I see what you are saying and we’ve all witnessed it. I do have a question, and I’m being sincere because I dont know where to place it in my paradigm yet. I keep seeing story after story, and statistics to back it up, that Americans are moving throughout the US in massive numbers. Yes there is some element of seeking economic opportunity, and certainly an uptick from the cities burning… but it seems many Americans are almost self-sorting by what appears to be politics and somewhat by ethnicity. My question is, where does that move… Read more »

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Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Penitent Man
27 days ago

PM you need to come over to our other site we are having a conversation on that very thing…

When Then
When Then
Reply to  Penitent Man
27 days ago

to answer Penitent man; it’s difficult to see any positive action in flight, we whites fled before and apparently aren’t ready to make a stand. Its difficult to see anyone doing more than run or grumble and I see nothing definite coming from the right- in truth I think the Left will have to make some horrible, overreaching mistake that is possible but unlikely – or an actual full out revolution or coup by Leftist elements in the Capital finally forces the hands of those not leftist. The non leftist part of America has tremendous potential going to waste –… Read more »

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  When Then
27 days ago

So, you see it as people fleeing? Nothing more than a repeat of the expansion/exaggeration of the white flight to suburbia of the late 60s-80s?

That feels correct in part, and yet incomplete as well. You may not be far off on your future predictions, God knows. I’m more concerned with this contemporary volkenwanderungen and understanding it more intimately.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Penitent Man
26 days ago

The crazy part is until this year, intrastate movement was at all-time lows. People were escaping from California, of course, but the percentage staying put was otherwise nearly universal.

Member
Reply to  Penitent Man
26 days ago

As I mentioned in my post above, I’ve been trying to do some organizing online with a deliberate focus on meeting in meatspace. I think this is how the Great American Sortation could work out. Go and find people who are ideological kin in your local area. Most will be Civnat or 2A types but that’s how most of us got here too. As you get to know these people, find those you trust who want to move to a whiter area and orchestrate a collective move with them. Americans did this all the time in the past. Remember wagon… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  whitney
25 days ago

Thus the nostalgia and repeats.

Not for some ‘America’, but for the TV Age itself.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Rhodok
27 days ago

Yes. Back when I was listening to some sports talk radio, it was commented more than a few times that sports is the only thing keeping a community, city, or state together. For example you’d hear this as a talking point for funding a new stadium, so that City Name Sports Team wouldn’t leave.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Marko
27 days ago

CNST? Any chance you’re a former SA Goon?

More seriously, Seinfeld was correct that, in this day and age of free agency and the players all being pals off-court, you may as well be rooting for laundry.

Back in the 40s and 50s, in the NHL, there was real, visceral hatred between Detroit, Toronto, and Montreal. Heck, even as late as the 90s there was great hate between Detroit and Colorado that people in those regions could bond around.

James O'Meara
James O'Meara
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
27 days ago

Back in the 40s and 50s, in the NHL, there was real, visceral hatred between Detroit, Toronto, and Montreal.”

Remember that in Detroit in 60s and 70s. Good times. Speaking of that, same thing with music; Detroit, Cleveland, etc. had local music scenes that people were quite happy with, no need for some NYC or LA band to come to town.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
26 days ago

*Winks*

Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
26 days ago

There was the same thing in the NFL in the 70s between Dallas and Washington, and, to a lesser extent, Dallas and Philadelphia. Of course, Philly hated everybody.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Marko
27 days ago

I can attest to that as a guy living in Los Angeles when the Kobe/Shaq era was the glue keeping the city together

David
Reply to  Marko
27 days ago

For Low IQ boomers maybe. To watch america’s past times with rules and strategy devolve into roid raging, full contact hunter gatherer brawls and not be appalled is nothing short of cursing your children. The day i learned my favorite batter couldnt speak english, i quit sports forever. Its lead to the africanization of every european art form, and now politics and legislation. Boomer relatives call me racist for saying “their” behavior is genetic. We just spent 50 years and trillions of dollars trying to help them. It was easier to put a man on the moon. Now future generations… Read more »

billrla
Member
Reply to  David
27 days ago

David: Oprah just called. No new car for you.

billrla
Member
Reply to  Marko
27 days ago

Marko: I don’t believe that professional sports has any cosmic meaning. It’s athletes playing ball, and fans buying beer and hotdogs and cheering for a few hours.

Ted Valis
Ted Valis
Reply to  Marko
26 days ago

Sort of an American Tournequet!

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Rhodok
27 days ago

Up until the last several months I’ve followed sportsball very closely. I was a regular listener of WSCR (the Score) in Chicago. There are two hosts in particular, Dan Bernstein and Hub Arkush (yes, they both echo) on that station who started injecting politics into sports a few years ago. Occasionally at first, then rapidly increasing after 2016. Listeners would plead to “keep politics out of sports,” yet they were ignored and even ridiculed at times, as not caring about social justice and race issues. And now, those berated sports fans have added another thing they don’t care about: Sports.

ronehjr
ronehjr
Reply to  Wolf Barney
27 days ago

I stopped listening to Bernstein when Terry Boers left because Berstein on his own was becoming more political. He was already an unctuous turd before that. I remember when Obama was elected in ’08 he wondered what it would be like to have a president who played basketball. Of course the answer to that as the answer to all questions regarding wakandans is…. wait for it….. more crime.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Wolf Barney
27 days ago

There used to be a morning drive-time sport chat show on WEEI in Boston hosted by two Irish guys who leaned normie/libertarian. It was consistently #1 in the ratings. The station (due to various organized Bolshie protests) fired those hosts and their replacements have yet to crack the top-ten in that time slot. Go figure.

Reply to  RoBG
26 days ago

Ideology before profit is the AWR way.

lo-tech
lo-tech
Reply to  Rhodok
27 days ago

My theory is that “talking sports” was common currency. The content was always trivial: silly stats, a good hit, whatever. But rich, poor, black, white could all converse about it with equal expertise and the topic was not contentious. This was a good thing. And it is now totally gone…like everything it has become specialized, politicized, tribalized.

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Rhodok
Rhodok
Reply to  lo-tech
27 days ago

Indeed, sports was always a safe topic. Like ‘the weather” but more interesting. Now you cannot mention sports without fear of losing your job.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Rhodok
26 days ago

In keeping with this vein, last Wednesday – I believe it was – a woman called in to one of the major daytime radio talk shows and said the following, “When you come right down to it, what do we have in common anymore?” She gave a couple of examples of why she posed that question and the host actually said, “Is there any type of overlap that we can say constitutes a common heritage now? From my perspective, most of us do not.” Said woman caller then said, “I think it’s time to start partitioning up the country, let’s… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Steve
25 days ago

Is there any type of overlap that we can say constitutes a common heritage now?

Misery.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Rhodok
25 days ago

Not sure about sports, but at least with the debate ratings drop, it could be that (1) most everyone’s minds are made up, (2) the debates are pretty much fake and biased, and/or (3) nothing really of substance gets discussed. Just a waste of time, and a not very entertaining one at that.

One of Many Georges
One of Many Georges
27 days ago

Obvious point, but the internet has been key in fracturing, and in many cases losing, the “audience” for the Manipulators of the Cultural Rhythm.

A lot of people have simply retreated to their own social media bubbles and niche hobbies.

That could be a good thing for us. I loved an old motto I used to see on the Identity Dixie website: secede in your mind. A lot of people have done that unconsciously (in addition to /our/ guys, who have done it consciously.)

Psychological separation can help move towards formal separation.

Hilltop
Hilltop
Reply to  One of Many Georges
27 days ago

And once you’ve “seceded,” as you say, you never see the people in the Offical Lie World the same way again.

In addition to sports looking ridiculous when you’re finally “on the outside,” how about the shitlib news anchors and opinion hosts? With their phony Serious Face, you can see them for the slimy second-rate actors they really are.

Once you can see that, you never unsee it. But there are a lot of normies who still don’t see it, and our job is to help get them out of the Matrix.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Hilltop
27 days ago

Watching mainstream television is the equivalent of rubbing shit in your eyes routinely. Disease and blindness are sure to follow. TV is a tonic for boredom, but also an insidious mind killer. Get out the 12 gauge and shoot your television set today. It’s the only way to be sure.

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Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  TomA
27 days ago

We just got a new big screen. Had the old one 10 years. My wife would invoke the red flag law on my ass if I did that. But seriously, I don’t watch regular tv on it, mostly you tube videos. Couple of nights ago I watched a vid on how to land a 737 jet airliner in twelve easy steps in case the pilots suddenly vanished. You can download it on your smartphone, hint hint.

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Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  Tom K
27 days ago

Just to be clear, that last bit was what the video guy said, not me. I don’t have a smartphone.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  TomA
27 days ago

Watching mainstream television is the equivalent of rubbing shit in your eyes routinely. 

I knew there was a reason I don’t watch TV any more (haven’t for years). Never was a big fan of sitcoms anyhow and the dramas just got so far gone into what the ZMan called “Blackwashing” that I just got fed up. Haven’t watched the news since I woke up politically back around ’16 (Okay, so I was a late bloomer. Sue me.) and realized what a load of leftist crap the network news were putting out.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Hilltop
27 days ago

But there are a lot of normies who still don’t see it, and our job is to help get them out of the Matrix. Taking your analogy of Normies being in the Matrix I would just say what happened after they got people out? They didn’t leave them on their own and say good luck they actually brought them into the tribe and physically helped them…That’s why I’ve been advocating for Building Community for so long because we need to be helping those who are awake as well as being ready to help those who have just awakened…We have to… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Lineman
27 days ago

I’ve always agreed that MPAI (most people are idiots), but I was still shocked when my husband mentioned that when he used the terms “knockout game” and “polar bear hunting” to two guys who heard about Rick Moranis getting sucker punched, neither had ever heard of either. Both are somewhat race realist normies, and both looked them up after my husband mentioned them, and both were shocked it was a thing. We can’t truly comprehend the incredible blindness/ignorance of the normie who gets all his news from standard sources. He’s literally living in a different world.

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Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  3g4me
26 days ago

The problem with MSM news is that it’s meant to distract not to inform. You could watch a months worth and know no more than when you started(Tucker is the only exception). it’s that bad.
Think of the movie “They Live” and that is the world we live in.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Hilltop
27 days ago

you can see them for the slimy second-rate actors they really are.

2nd rate? I think you have just offered mortal insult to 2nd rate actors everywhere. Best apologize – profusely and often.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Hilltop
26 days ago

Vlacek Havel wrote “live as if you are free” in the midst of living in communist tyranny. I never grokked until recently how brilliant that advice was.

icebergdeadahead
icebergdeadahead
Reply to  One of Many Georges
27 days ago

Psychological separation, seceding in your mind, will grow worse in the future. I’m an example. I reduced my sports watching habit years ago, primarily due to sports commentary shows. As racism against Whites increased, a Pavlovian-like response activated in my mind, so whenever something racially uncomfortable presented itself, seen first through sports commentary shows on places like ESPN, I turned off. You know, “cuck white male pitted against stereotypical angry black man” shows. Increasingly, I find this is true among basically everything I watch nowadays. In the 90s, I watched lots of multicultural shows, things like Star Trek: Deep Space… Read more »

Sandmich
Reply to  icebergdeadahead
24 days ago

Now that you mention it, a little bit is bearable, but too much retcons the past into trash too. The movie Die Hard is a great example; loved the movie but I have a hard time sitting through it anymore since the black hacker, the noble black cabbie/cop-savage and (of course) the “evil Germans” is so grating it’s like fingernails on chalkboard.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  One of Many Georges
27 days ago

this is 100% my approach to getting through current times.

When then
When then
Reply to  One of Many Georges
27 days ago

Actually no, other than secede in the mind it never goes anywhere.

And by God, no Con_FED poasting here! If there’s no Fedpoasting, then no Con-Fed posting.

Tom
Tom
27 days ago

I read the whole thing in Z’s “right wing NPR” voice and made the boooom! sound at the end, just to get my fix.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Tom
27 days ago

“This is NPR. Nationalist Populist Reactionary.”

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Marko
27 days ago

National Propaganda Radio? National Puke Repository? National Puss Reservoir?

sentry
sentry
27 days ago

i think watching sports is a boomer thing, it happened during a transitional period in history when people had tv, but internet was missing.
There’s a reason nba kisses chinese asses.
Most people who are interested in sports nowadays watch game highlights on youtube(doesn’t last long, you can skip boring parts), bet some money, maybe leave some comments on skip bayless videos and move on with their life.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  sentry
27 days ago

Sports is an Anglo-Saxon thing. The popularity of it will ebb and flow with the population of Anglos, and by extension whites, but all major sportsball variants were developed by Anglos. (As opposed to Olympics or other simple recreational activities performed by half-naked men or men on horseback, which were not Anglo.)

lo-tech
lo-tech
Reply to  Marko
27 days ago

Soccer and baseball started out as working-class pastimes in UK and America respectively. Football was created after the Civil War to give elite college men the experience of something approximating battle.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  lo-tech
27 days ago

Soccer and baseball started out as working-class pastimes in UK and America

That’s interesting because with the rise of advanced stats and analysis, one could argue that baseball has become one of the most intellectually high-end sportsball pastimes.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  lo-tech
27 days ago

football evolved from rugby, it wasn’t invented.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Karl McHungus
27 days ago

Agree. And what is baseball but slowed down Rounders?

ronehjr
ronehjr
Reply to  lo-tech
27 days ago

And the retreat of White men from participating in sports has created a huge dysgenic effect while doing the opposite for blacks. I’ve often wondered how wise it would be to throw huge numbers of scary roided up black men out of jobs where their main activity was beating the hell out of each other. Where do you think they will take that aggression. I bet Rick Moranis has an answer for you.

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Reply to  ronehjr
26 days ago

But the number is not huge. The number of blacks in the NFL and NBA combined is probably around 1000.

lo-tech
lo-tech
Reply to  sentry
27 days ago

The leagues going full-on “Black” was the last straw (at least for me) but the collapse of sports has been setting up for a while.Two points: (1) Leagues shot themselves in the foot by ending the “specialness” or “scarcity” effect. Baseball was what you switched on when you got home from work in the evenings. Football was for weekend gatherings. Effect is ruined when you can get the highlights on your phone any time. (2) They made it too expensive to be a fan. You can’t walk up and buy tickets anymore for cheap: they pre-sell the whole arena to… Read more »

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Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  lo-tech
27 days ago

Chicago Cubs games at Wrigley Field have been extremely popular and the ticket prices reflect that. In the seventies, maybe even the early eighties, the upper deck would sometimes be closed for weekday games, since attendance was so low. My buddies and I would regularly attend games in the bleachers, where ticket prices were about $1.50. As recently as the mid-80’s, prices were $5.00, about the same price as a movie then. Maybe the recent era of bloated prices and corporate season tickets will pass. I hope so.

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Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  lo-tech
27 days ago

You can’t walk up and buy tickets anymore for cheap

You got that shit right. Even the seats in the nosebleed section cost a good portion of a day’s wages. Add in parking and even a single drink (soda, beer is way too expensive) and you’re well into a couple of day’s wages.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Bill Mullins
27 days ago

Mets game in Shea stadium in 60’s. Old man gave me $5. Got me on the subway to Shea, ticket, pizza and soda, subway home—still had change enough for the neighborhood movie theater the next day.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Bill Mullins
27 days ago

Prior to 9/11 they’d let you into Fenway after the 7th inning. It used to be you could buy “standing room,” move down, sit in the posh seats until the seasons’ ticket owners showed up. Now you’re supposed to stand in the painted box up under the grandstands-which not only destroys a tradition-but the point.

bob sykes
Reply to  RoBG
26 days ago

In the 50’s and 60’s, Fenway was usually empty. You could get into the bleacher section for 50¢. The right field seats were usually filled by nuns in habits, there gratis.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Bill Mullins
27 days ago

Went to a diamondbacks game years ago and couldn’t believe the prices for everything – one and done.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  lo-tech
26 days ago

Very true, but don’t forget that, at least with the NFL, most games stopped being entertaining. Between bad coaching from a lot of bottom tier teams and legalistic refereeing and review, there’s tended to be a lot of frankly unwatchable games over the past 10 years especially.

Rich
Member
Reply to  sentry
27 days ago

If it truly is a boomer thing it will fade over the next decade or so.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  sentry
27 days ago

Probably true. Also, literally no sports, including the nba & nfl were nigrified they way they are now. I was a big cowboys fan in the 70’s/80’s and the team was 60-70% White. Now it’s the exact opposite, if not worse.

Drake
Drake
27 days ago

Sports entertainment is the most useless of luxury items. At least a luxury home still provides shelter and a luxury car gets you places you need to go. Televised sports do nothing but consume your time. As soon as that spell is broken – because they can’t stand the athletes they are paying to watch, people find other ways to spend time. I can watch more entertaining games with people I like at the local high school.

sentry
sentry
27 days ago

Btw owning sports team is not genuine business, at best it’s a side business.
Never heard any jew say owning san antonio spurs(pick your team) helped them reach new heights of wealth.

Drake
Drake
Reply to  thezman
27 days ago

Funny how I enjoyed watching the New England Patriots far more when they were owned by a guy who ran a few tire garages.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Drake
27 days ago

Were they the same Sullivans? (In MA it’s hard to tell.)

Drake
Drake
Reply to  RoBG
27 days ago

Yep. The same.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  thezman
27 days ago

some teams, like the yankees have very profitable broadcast networks they own. most teams do not, however. one of the nfl teams is owned by a family/person that made their money in the restaurant business. oops.

there are owners, that depend on the team for their income, so those teams tend to be run on the cheap.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Karl McHungus
27 days ago

Growing up in Tampa, the owner of the Bucs, Hugh Culverhouse, was a tax attorney and made money by intentionally taking losses and write offs

Ganderson
Ganderson
Reply to  Falcone
25 days ago

“Jerry, they just write it off!”

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  thezman
27 days ago

20ish years ago, some guy who make like 50K a year almost bought the New York Islanders with nothing but bravado.

The same league also had to gift a franchise to a star player in lieu of unpaid wages.

Reply to  MemeWarVet
26 days ago

Rush Limbaugh tried to buy the majority shares of the St. Louis football Cardinals many years ago and the NFL shot it down because they didn’t like his politics.

ronehjr
ronehjr
Reply to  thezman
27 days ago

Is it just me or does that seem like an insane business practice to allow? I’m genuinely asking, I have no idea. If you ever do more economic posts, I’d be interested in your take.

Sandmich
Reply to  ronehjr
27 days ago

A big piece of it is low interest rates. If Fed interest rates were at even 8% a lot of these games would prohibitively expensive.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
27 days ago

“changed the initial state of the American system” don’t you mean “changed the current state”? you really don’t ever want positive feedback in a system. for example, when a microphone is put in front of a speaker (being fed by the mic) you get that howling sound that increases rapidly in volume. i have worked on man systems where there are “layers” of old code that you literally did not change, ever. instead, you added a new layer — like rings on a tree. maybe the elites aren’t behind all the mayhem and chaos; they don’t really benefit from it.… Read more »

Hoagie
Hoagie
Reply to  Karl McHungus
27 days ago

Red China, perhaps?

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Hoagie
27 days ago

yep. it’s kind of like The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Hoagie
27 days ago

Maybe but Red China has major issues going on.
IMO simple catabolic collapse seems likely.
The TL;DR version of that is “society gets too complex and expensive to keep together so it collapses to a sustainable level.”

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  abprosper
27 days ago

oh for sure china is going to implode soon. they have some biblical level bad things going on there. and i think it has them panicked and making rash moves.

Horace
Horace
Reply to  Karl McHungus
27 days ago

“maybe there is a new player emerging.” Consider your car. You have brake pedal, accelerator, wiper knobs, key ignition switch, trunk release, etc. These are all control nodes in a control network that is used to operate the vehicle.  Door locks and key ignition switches can be viewed as the master controls of your car, possession and power over which is the prerequisite to operating all the rest of the control nodes, especially the steering wheel. A would-be thief can have fun moving the steering wheel all they want, but if they don’t have a key to trip the ignition… Read more »

lo-tech
lo-tech
Reply to  Horace
27 days ago

I’ll be honest with you, buddy. Your extended metaphor gave me a little bit of a headache.

Horace
Horace
Reply to  lo-tech
26 days ago

Thanks for giving it a go.

Hoagie
Hoagie
27 days ago

I hope I’m alive to see them swing. If I were younger and healthier I’d hold the rope.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Hoagie
27 days ago

just tie it to the back of an ATV and you are good to go 😛

Allen
27 days ago

You’ve got that plus the ruling class had an original model for the culture that worked fairly well but they changed the conditions without adjusting the model. The original model assumed homogeneity, amongst other things, but oops. That has been one of the funnier things, watching them change the conditions and then running around wondering why their model doesn’t work. Thus, the whole civnat thing. They’re trying to force people back into the old model after making changes to the culture. It’s not going to happen. I personally would not like to be on the Fed these days. What if… Read more »

icebergdeadahead
icebergdeadahead
Reply to  Allen
27 days ago

In the past, when whites were the overwhelming majority, it was possible to attack them and have them run for cover professing their love for the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. But now that tactic is becoming increasingly difficult as whites being the long journey to thinking like any other minority group. You see this in how no matter what the regime does to Donald Trump, he never really falls below 40% approval. If this were the 1970s or the early 00s, his approval rating would be in the 20s. The ruling class is beside themselves and unable… Read more »

James O'Meara
James O'Meara
Reply to  icebergdeadahead
27 days ago

Like that Singapore guy said, when you have a multi-ethnic society, democracy means voting for your ethnic group.

Horace
Horace
Reply to  James O'Meara
26 days ago

I can’t remember who to give proper credit, but someone on this site said “ideology is a luxury afforded by tribes that have secured their lands against other tribes.” Democracy and republics in the era of mass media can only work in small ethnostates.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Horace
26 days ago

We all to often forget that a republic, or its bastard cousin the (liberal) democracy, are the exception rather than the rule in world history. I don’t know world history well, but I agree with Horace’s statement(s). It is further true — so far as I( know — that multi-ethnic (or religious) or otherwise “diverse” peoples only live in relative peace when under a powerful ruler, usually authoritarian. In our lifetimes, perhaps Yugoslavia or the ex-Soviet Union might be good examples. Even though many of us here cherish the USA of the past, yes it was very but not completely… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
27 days ago

Zman has already made this point, but the experience of watching televised sportsball sans audience is unsatisfying.

Without an audience, I may as well be watching a bunch of guys at the gym or the local park.

For me, the cardboard cutout audiences are so unsettling that the experience starts sliding into, “uncanny valley,” territory.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
27 days ago

I have really only enjoyed most sports when either I was playing, or a friend or family member was playing. When you have kids in high school sports, they’re more fun than anything on TV, bad playing and all. On the other hand, the craziness of some sports parents, coaches and school admin was a real turn-off. They were crazily invested in it, and the whole lot seemed perfectly willing to let the kids’ academics and/or sleep suffer: we were a rural district which means long drives to games and sometimes the kids wouldn’t get back until after midnight. For… Read more »

lo-tech
lo-tech
Reply to  Vizzini
27 days ago

Unless my son is exceptionally tall and strong, he’ll be steered by me toward golf. Maybe track for general health purposes. When it comes to sports, parents are not realistic about their kids potential, or the benefits of all these expensive leagues and camps.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  lo-tech
27 days ago

In high school, I played football instead of golf. And I never put on the shoulder pads and helmet again. Meanwhile golf is a game you can play the rest of your life.

Rich
Member
Reply to  Wolf Barney
27 days ago

High school gym teacher wanted me on the football and wrestling teams. Played intramural FB for the fun, but said no to the “too much like work” for the actual team. He then dragged me to watch a wrestling meet. First match had one of my neighbors in it. He won, but threw up right after he left the mat. Told the coach, “no thanks”. Fast forward in life to when some buddies took me to a driving range. I thought, no way will I like this, but was immediately hooked! Wished I would have started earlier, like in high… Read more »

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  Wolf Barney
26 days ago

I think it’s telling that there are no recreational American football leagues, except for a couple rare flag football ones.

After high school you can find recreational softball, soccer, hockey, golf, tennis, even rugby, martial arts and so on, but full contact American football seems right out.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  lo-tech
27 days ago

How about him being steered towards doing stuff with you like hunting, fishing, camping, shooting, going to the gym, martial arts/combatives, etc etc…

lo-tech
lo-tech
Reply to  Lineman
27 days ago

Agreed, outdoorsmanship is definitely an important thing for a boy to be involved with.

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ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  lo-tech
27 days ago

Everybody in the fam should probably learn how to garden a little. Soon. Start with potatoes and yams as they are easy to grow and nutritious. Raising chickens for eggs and meat is a good idea, too.

Reply to  ChicagoRodent
26 days ago

Afraid growing yams doesn’t move the needle on the Cool-o-Meter for teen boys.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Lineman
27 days ago

Really, golf just sucks. It’s just an excuse for a guy to get away from his wife for a few hours so he can group kavetch with other guys about their own wives. And they pay a crap load of money to do it and seemingly not enjoy actual golfing. I don’t get it.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  Forever Templar
27 days ago

I’m not a big golfer, but I “get away with the guys” sometimes doing other stuff and we don’t kvetch about our wives. Maybe you need to see a marriage counselor?

It’s the “getting out with the guys” part that’s fun. The few times I have played golf, that’s been the main appeal. Nothing wrong with that.

I do it at the shooting range, or trail riding, various other stuff.

As long as you’re not busting your budget, one overpriced hobby is as good as another!

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Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  lo-tech
27 days ago

At least push him something like long-distance running. Every old, long-time golfer I’ve met has had poor posture and a gut.

miforest
Member
Reply to  lo-tech
27 days ago

to-tech. golf is good, try to teach him chess, some kind of competitive shooting like skeet or match. Archery is also fun and relaxing. it is good to have several options . also fishing , and actually eating part gf the catch is an ages old father and child experience.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  miforest
26 days ago

I call sporting clays “golf with guns.” Hella fun.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  lo-tech
27 days ago

If your kid has aspirations that require a college credential (medicine, etc.) and you can’t afford it, have them study a “niche” sport or instrument. Squash. Basoon. That sort of thing.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  RoBG
26 days ago

Title IX has made niche sport scholarships for men hard to come by. They cut the hell out of men’s niche sports so the football and basketball team can be balanced out by all the women’s niche sports.

When I fenced for OSU, only the women got scholarships. The men were lucky to even have a school-supported team.

Might be better for music scholarships if your kid has the talent, but kids with real talent go to the specialized music/arts schools like Juilliard, Manhattan School of Music, etc.

ExPraliteMonk
ExPraliteMonk
Reply to  lo-tech
26 days ago

Professional golfers have the highest lifetime earnings of any pro sport because you can keep playing on a pro level until you’re 70. I was on a dive boat off West Palm Beach and in the distance was a super yacht with a helicopter on the stern. And it wasn’t a piddly piston engine copter, it was a turbine chopper where just flipping the master switch to ON cost $100. It belonged to a pro golfer in town.

Drake
Drake
Reply to  Vizzini
27 days ago

I had a blast watching my kids play in high school. Enjoyed every minute of it more than any pro sport.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
27 days ago

and how do you know it’s real and/or live? These games could be pre-recorded, deep fakes, etc for all we know.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Falcone
27 days ago

the nigged up sports are no longer really sports; they are more like the WWE. and getting more so.

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The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Karl McHungus
27 days ago

they are more like the WWE.

For sure. There is far, far too much money involved in big time sports for there NOT to be some level of scripting and fixing going on.

And the big-time guys are all on some level of PED routine.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Karl McHungus
27 days ago

Might as well pit blacks against cheetahs in a race. Would be much more interesting.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Falcone
27 days ago

or lions 😛

TomA
TomA
27 days ago

Things change slowly until they change very fast. We are now equally split between self-reliant producers and parasitic malcontents. That ratio cannot persist much longer. Something will give, and history teaches that tyranny is the most probable outcome. A major war is No. 2 on the list. Move someplace rural, get to know your neighbors, learn to hunt and grow food. Survive, go dark, be patient, and hone your focus. The clock is ticking faster.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  TomA
27 days ago

We are now equally split between self-reliant producers and parasitic malcontents.

If the US and Europe could simply find the will to turn off the giveaways, handouts, quotas, and set asides for illegals a significant portion of the immigration issue would simply cease to exist.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
27 days ago

Goose that would cause a war so they won’t ever even consider that…

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
27 days ago

And perhaps even turn off the spigot for all but natural born citizens.

Chester White
Chester White
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
27 days ago

The money printing will eventually take care of that.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  TomA
27 days ago

when you consider that government employees are actually parasites too, then your ratio is already past 1:1.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Karl McHungus
27 days ago

Blame technology for that. Our society demand constant consumption and churn but is so efficient at making goods, too few people are paid enough to consume them. Its an efficiency trap or in Commie, a crisis of production. This leaves State as the buyer of last resort. And note while it seems like low fertility with closed borders till the population stabilizes is a good idea, how many people do you know want population shrinkage? More importantly, the industrial/urban society is a meat grinder and that constant decline creates feedback issue. More decline, less jobs, even faster decline till the… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  abprosper
26 days ago

Actually, dramatic population shrinkage is a highly desirable thing long term. Unless you think overpopulation is not a real thing. This is one thing that the doom sayers are right about, but the timetable is uncertain. This problem transcends all races and partisan politics (including ours). As I have often stated before, this problem doesn’t have the remotest chance of being solved proactively by humans*, so it’ll be solved by Nature with a dramatic, indiscrimiante culling of the species. Whether the biosphere survives, to what extent, and how many humans remain, is anyone’s guess. I shouldn’t have said “highly desirable.”… Read more »

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
25 days ago

The biosphere will survive anything we do to it. Humanity might not.
Now I happen to agree with you that a population decline long term is a very good thing, at least so long as the ratio is correct (25-33% European origin) but a lot of people do not including a huge chunk of the people on our side.

Jack Boniface
Jack Boniface
Member
27 days ago

The guys I know with jobs are working extra hours, even second jobs, to make as much money as they can for their families before whatever comes next. No time for sports nonsense.

lo-tech
lo-tech
27 days ago

What amazes me is the firm resistance to restoring normalcy: all they have to do is make the mask rules a little more flexible, or moderate the liability laws so that businesses don’t have to have so many creepy restrictions (plexiglass, etc) and a lot of the mass psychological stress would moderate. I have to believe they see how things are breaking. And yet they still talk like we’re going to be covering our faces and hiding in our houses two years from now, and they may believe that. In general I think most government action is explicable by official… Read more »

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  lo-tech
27 days ago

And maybe not drag moms out of outdoor football stadiums and arrest them.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Vizzini
27 days ago

I can’t believe no one helped her either I think thats when things will break is when people seeing an injustice done by those who are supposed protect get up and stop the injustice even though it means risk themselves…

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Lineman
27 days ago

One report I read said she yelled out “But we’re going to stick together, right guys?” as she was dragged out. Which would seem to indicate others claimed they’d join in making a stand against masks, and when the cops showed up they backed out and left her hanging. That’s been my experience more than once, and why I reluctantly conclude the uprising we’d all like to see just won’t happen.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  3g4me
26 days ago

I think I heard the man with her was her ex-husband. Being her ex, he was probably sick of her shit a long time ago and wasn’t about to go to jail for her even if he thought she was right.

“Don’t worry, honey. The support check will still be on time.”

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Lineman
26 days ago

I’ll spare you the details, but the only time in my life I’ve ever been arrested was precisely standing up for something I thought was right. I ended up with an arrest record (albeit misdemeanor) and about $2000 in legal bills. My incident didn’t involve safety of property or life, and I realize it pales in comparison to some of the horrors we’ve seen this year (e.g. Kyle Rittenhouse). Still, as the Jewish carpenter said, count the cost. It’s one thing to take a stand, but quite another to risk injury/death for soemthing, that especially in the mask case (or… Read more »

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MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  lo-tech
27 days ago

As I’ve stated previously, the Karens are enjoying this way too much to ever allow us to return to normal.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  lo-tech
27 days ago

But..the old “normal” lead into what we have now. Why would you want to restore that on a 1:1 basis?

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Forever Templar
26 days ago

I like your posts. I will label you the resident Determinist. Close enough.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  lo-tech
27 days ago

They are. Nothing gives the elite a bigger dopamine rush and status boost than oppression and terror especially if people will cooperate.
And yes this does accelerate the destruction of the system , our elite oscillate between moronic and satanic and making steadily good decisions is no more possible for them than a flatworm doing tensor calculus.

Joey Jünger
Joey Jünger
27 days ago

The flight into the past is one of the main things linking the legacy right and progressives, who claim to hate each other (or pretend to on TV). Mainstream conservatives peered into the abyss and decided they wanted to hop into the DeLorean and fly back to 1985 again (even Ben Shapiro, their standard bearer, seems like the pipsqueak sidekick for the alpha in every 80s teen sex comedy, the nerd who builds the bra bomb or whatever device gets unleashed at the big dance). Progs had decided to promote Muslims, trannies, Hispanics, and everyone else to the exclusion of… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Joey Jünger
27 days ago

Progs had decided to promote Muslims, trannies, Hispanics, and everyone else to the exclusion of their old black pets…they decided to make everything a morality play about how white people are mean to black people again, as if this were 1965. The near total disappearance of other Prog grievance groups has been one of the oddest aspects of the past several months. Other than the Antifa trannies that have been arrested at the riots these other groups have largely fallen off the radar. Supposedly the lack of attention has seriously hurt Biden with Hispanics, though I have yet to see… Read more »

B123
B123
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
27 days ago

They’re forcing everyone onto Team White. Arabs, Chinese, Indians, may dislike us. But they certainly didn’t come to the USA to live in a country full of rioting jungle Africans.

Only the most deranged and hateful non-black minorities are on Team Black.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Joey Jünger
27 days ago

On a related note, I notice how Will Ferrell movies are just nostalgia for suburban 1970s and 1980s.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Falcone
27 days ago

i live next to the jr h.s. he went to, as did my kids. he gave the graduation speech at their HS one year. another time he came back to the old neighborhood, where one of his HS friends still lived, and my son got to meet him and talk to him. pretty cool. sad he went off the prog deep end.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Karl McHungus
27 days ago

His progressivism has a “I’ve got a gun to my head” quality about it

Seems forced or he’s been held hostage IOW

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Falcone
27 days ago

Vox Day would say he “took the ticket” that is sold out the Devil.
At times I’m not sure if he is correct or if he just watched American Satan a few too many times.
Either way, being part of the that elite takes away all your freedom

icebergdeadahead
icebergdeadahead
Reply to  Joey Jünger
27 days ago

Normies are asleep, and they aren’t waking up. Most woke up racially years ago, then decided they wanted to ride it out the best they could, going back into a coma in the process. This is the reason for all the civil war fantasies and boomer rebellion stuff on the right: “We have all the guns, so we’ll win the coming conflict libtards.” In reality, they are simply making excuses for doing nothing. They just want to keep their heads down and continue getting their grill on, moving goal posts with every far-left provocation: “Next time libtards! I really mean… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  icebergdeadahead
27 days ago

I tend to agree

I think we’re it. Wait all you want for more to show up, but I’m not counting on it. We’re the cavalry. Fate chose us, as unlikely as that might seem.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Falcone
27 days ago

We’ve got militia all over the place armed trained and able to fight, many waiting for “the Call” . The hunger is so great , huge numbers were willing to throw in with that Mormon kook Bundy and that was years ago One guy up in Shasta said roughly “people are so eager I could probably get a hundred thousand here if I asked.” it was rhetoric but there is a core of truth. The militia range from individuals like Kyle to small brigades like the ones at Klamath and maybe bigger. What we don’t have is an ideology to… Read more »

B123
B123
Reply to  Falcone
27 days ago

As long as there’s food on the table, normiecons don’t care.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  B123
27 days ago

This isn’t really true, the NC will fight but thus far they have nothing to fight for.
The hardest thing for Our Guys to get is that its about going forward to something new since going back is no longer a thing.
Its understandable, Our Thing is fundamentally Conservative but as Heraclitus noted “You can’t cross the same river twice.”

Rich
Member
Reply to  icebergdeadahead
27 days ago

Sounds like the Republican thing to do.

Some Guy
Some Guy
Reply to  icebergdeadahead
27 days ago

Conservatives look for the easy way out that has them expending the least amount of effort possible. My teeth have been set on edge way too many times when seeing “the best thing we can do right now is nothing” with a smug smirk on their face. Ownin’ da libs have become the ends, not the means. That or big brained centrists who reflexively kick the can down the road or think one more concession to the left and that’s it! This really annoyed me recently due to the replacement of RBG. The left would put in the biggest far… Read more »

Someone
Someone
Reply to  Some Guy
26 days ago

Most of the conservatards are simply grifters who have no real principles. Look at CFR slimeball Newt Gingrinch who expended political capital on whether a rapist president was getting BJ’s in the Oval Office instead passing tax cuts, reigning in some regulatory aspects, and finally abolishing the Dept of Education.

Ivar
Member
27 days ago

I suspect that a big reason ‘entertainment’ is dying is that plots have been used and reused so much that they are worn out. Now, hundreds of thousands of hours of content are needed to fill dozens of around-the-clock entertainment platforms. This has resulted in every plot device, every story line being beaten to death. Additionally, this is such a socially bland and emasculated age that many of the interesting elements of old the old entertainment are no long present. I remember years ago reading an interview of the late Cary Grant. He said that he quit making movies, not… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Ivar
27 days ago

I suspect that a big reason ‘entertainment’ is dying is that plots have been used and reused so much that they are worn out. This is why I laugh when rumors of remaking/rebooting the Marvel movies with black/gay/femnazi-washed casts and plots return to prominence in the news cycle. It is as if they failed to notice the reaction to Captain Marvel, which should have told them that Progged up reboots were not going to make them much money. Now, hundreds of thousands of hours of content are needed to fill dozens of around-the-clock entertainment platforms. This has resulted in every… Read more »

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
27 days ago

I’ve noticed that some of my more watched and enjoyed entertainment has been foreign TV series. I just tell the wife each week, I’m learning a new language in my quarantine.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
27 days ago

Those re-boots aren’t produced for people who saw the originals. They’re for “emerging global markets.”

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Ivar
27 days ago

That was a point I wanted to make the other day They use the same sitcom formula but replace the characters with gays or blacks. This way they don’t have to create or imagine anything new. Just recycle the same stuff but swap out the actors and use the media to convince people that this is all new and cutting edge and “important” socially. The reality, however, is that Hollywood and the media are a spent force. A lot of real opportunities out there for people in the movie business if they just take a few chances and risks and… Read more »

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Falcone
27 days ago

Could we simply be running out of human capital wrt creativity in these areas?

Boarwild
Boarwild
Reply to  CompscI
27 days ago

Nope! Got TONS yet to burn, problem is Hollywood is so”woke” the programs we would watch are not on their radar.

However, that is going to change: this lockdown is “culling the herd”, as it were. Opportunities are going to open up more now for the independent crowd.

Stay tuned. Working on a documentary series now. The channels are desperate for content. ;<)

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Boarwild
26 days ago

Totally agree

Some serious opportunities out there right now for any artist with the guts to buck the trend

Some Guy
Some Guy
Reply to  CompscI
27 days ago

I disagree. The “golden age of TV” that happened with shows like The Sopranos, Breaking Bad, etc. were going to keep improving quality of content after people got sick of The Cosby Show version 23568 or syndication friendly “criminal of the week” shows. This age ended because the diversity disease took root and the creators got tired of having to take flack for their show not being anti-white enough. Diversity killed plot lines, which were just starting to go in very interesting directions.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  CompscI
26 days ago

No. It’s an economic/business problem. Blockbuster movies are expensive, so studios are loath to take chances on original stories, so they recycle tried and true plots, just changing the veneers, to ensure success. Originality is risky so it’s best suited to small and cheap efforts to minimize risk of loss. Re: television shows, the reason why shows become retreads or zany (jumping the shark) is because a) there is no predetermined endpoint for a show and b) production schedules are tight. Consequently, shows are allowed to stagger on as long as they can sell ads, and churning out 22 episodes… Read more »

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Drew
26 days ago

Your comment and the ones above offer good insights. I think they lend a more nuance insight into the problem than my rather limited one. I stand corrected.

icebergdeadahead
icebergdeadahead
Reply to  Ivar
27 days ago

That’s part of it. But it goes deeper. Whites, the primary creative group in this country, are no longer really able to write things for their own demographic. Thus, nothing new can be created. There are just too many restrictions, too much risk. Imagine the content, for example, if whites could speak honestly about race in this country. But no, you can’t do that. Anything you create must fit the narrative. Anything you make also cannot have too many whites (promoted as diversity) or non-whites will get envious and then angry. Nothing you make can promote certain values or historical… Read more »

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  icebergdeadahead
27 days ago

all true, but therein lies the fatal flaw. there is no need to watch the new versions, so people don’t.

yes the left took over lots of institutions, all of which are now wrecked. leaving a clean field for new artists, not infected with left rage.

Boarwild
Boarwild
Reply to  Karl McHungus
27 days ago

To put it another way, what can’t continue won’t.

And it can’t continue.

lo-tech
lo-tech
Reply to  icebergdeadahead
27 days ago

Imagine what the Lord of the Rings or Chronicles of Narnia movies would look like if they were being made now, rather than 10 years ago!

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Ivar
27 days ago

I hear ya. At my age, it’s hard to get enthused over a “new” movie, because the plot line is old, very old. It is a rarity for me to get interested in what is basically a remake of something from the 40’s or 50’s. Seems every producer thinks he can do it better. How many times can one remake “A Star Is Born”?

ExPraliteMonk
ExPraliteMonk
Reply to  Ivar
26 days ago

My wife was complaining about the lack of shows and movies and I said most movies are written for 15-year-olds, and you’ve watched everything worth watching. Read a book: they’ve been making movies for only a hundred years; they’ve been writing books for several thousand years.

Last edited 26 days ago by ExPraliteMonk
Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
27 days ago

When I was a kid, there were 3 channels. When supper time came Pop loved to watch game shows over dinner. We were at the edgiest front of culture when The Gong Show came on. (Think Of it as the paleo version of Gab). Our CFL home team still had many local players. Things started to change when the CFL discovered it could buy negro players cheap. A good portion of The Edmonton Eskimo’s are now imported Edmonton Jungle Monkeys. I think the NFL sends the worst ones up here to punish them. I lost all connection with the sport… Read more »

Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  Glenfilthie
27 days ago

Up vote for the Gong Show reference. How can they say America doesn’t have a distinct culture.

James O'Meara
James O'Meara
Reply to  Judge Smails
27 days ago

“Jaye… P…. Morgone!” (as in orgone). Good times.

Nick
Nick
Reply to  Glenfilthie
27 days ago

The gong show was funny. I remember the “unknown comic” doing his ventriloquist act. He would put a little paper bag on his hand.

roberto
roberto
Reply to  Nick
27 days ago

Funny for a few seconds maybe.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Nick
25 days ago

Greatest. Thing. Ever!

Thud Muffle
Member
27 days ago

Like all revolutionaries, they will end up swinging from trees as that is the rhythm of every revolution.
Hustle up. I’m in my eighties.

B123
B123
Reply to  Thud Muffle
27 days ago

It’s nice to be young 🙂

I’m optimistic for the future, shockingly.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  B123
26 days ago

I’m optimistic for the long-term but not the short-term

Falcone
Falcone
27 days ago

As my dad would say, the party’s over. “Think about how many apolitical people that have suddenly been made aware of the reality of race and ethnicity. ” My take is that the awareness was always there but just became dormant, people didn’t want to be party poopers and just wanted to have fun. The 1990s-Obama were just people on vacation from reality, with perhaps a jolt of reality on 9/11. But that didn’t last. I think the Great Recession and now the lockdowns were the final straw. What a sudden seriousness of attitude portends is something calamitous — as if… Read more »

lo-tech
lo-tech
Reply to  Falcone
27 days ago

Re: 9/11— interesting how the media are now reinventing the baddies of the moment not as tribesmen in caves far away (2001-2016), but as non-compliant white people here at home (2016-).

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  lo-tech
27 days ago

I guess 9/11 was just practice for the elites to use the skills and ideas perfected then to use against white people later on

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Falcone
27 days ago

Could be. I think you’ll wait a long while till the military is openly conducting pacification operations in the cities and Delta/SEAL Team Six is rendering citizens.The private contracting world has gone through serious changes in the last 20 years, to the point of being an unofficial branch of the military. Good possibility you’ll see them first.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Forever Templar
27 days ago

Perhaps, but those guys are getting old as well and now relatively comfortable with lots to lose. War is different when the kids are taken hostage, wives raped, houses set on fire. These guys are not going to be ready for it and are not going to want to partake. It was all fun and games in the Mid East with their families safe at home

Boarwild
Boarwild
Reply to  lo-tech
27 days ago

Spot on. See “Sum of All Fears” movie.

Falcone
Falcone
27 days ago

And let me add, this is a brilliant analysis, Z.

You are upping your game.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
27 days ago

There appears to be a mania among the ruling class. They’re not as smart or grounded as their parents. They never would have wildly gripped the controls the way these people do. There’s definitely something going on in the transmission system of power. Real power means affecting the plebes. They need pliant worker bees. They don’t want one thought in the heads of these world bees that they haven’t put there. Especially political thoughts. Since the country has no more moral framework, the social framework is deteriorating. That’s what they rest on.

icebergdeadahead
icebergdeadahead
Reply to  JR Wirth
27 days ago

The ruling class is fighting a war on two fronts.On one side are the working-class whites who increasingly reject being the victims of racial hate. On the other side are all the woke Millennial upstarts like AOC and her Squad of hip Bolsheviks. When that latter group gets power, they will institute draconian polices that will lead to economic disaster, things like reparations and the Green New Deal. The ruling class is concerned their purple haired kids might be left out in the cold in a future America (they will be).

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  icebergdeadahead
26 days ago

Agreed. And, more relevant with Horace’s comment below: Californicate will probably be the dying canary in the coal mine. Just get a load of the just-passed law that mandates (more?) diversity in private corporations. How can this do anything but hamper at best, destroy at worst, the corporations that are subject to such laws? I thought that racial quotas were illegal, but apparently not. Even thought they are/will be upheld, I wish those firms good luck in finding qualified people. They won’t. So they’ll find unqualified people. I wish there was an easy way to “short” publicly-traded CA corporations (better:… Read more »

Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
26 days ago

For California and really the whole Wrong Coast here all the way to Canada I’m really only bullish on organized crime as a growth industry. If only they sold shares…

Horace
Horace
Reply to  JR Wirth
27 days ago

Our ruling elites are no longer homogeneous and are rapidly becoming less so (Ivy league 50% non-white with whites overwhelmingly shitlib). Empires (a ruling class ruling over a multicultural ruled or working class comprised of at least two distinct national peoples) can be stable for a long time if they have a homogeneous ruling class imposing a unified vision. However, when the ruling class goes multicultural they inevitably will conflict over civilizational mission. Right now they are barely united by hatred of trad Americans and love of the wealth they are looting from trad America. ALL of human history suggests… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Horace
26 days ago

Much we are witnessing is the last gasp of White neoliberalism. As despicable and flawed as that philosophy was, it will be supplanted by something much more unstable and disgusting. You are right. It will not have a long shelf life.

trackback
27 days ago

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Bill Mullins
Member
27 days ago

Large complex systems are often highly dependent on initial conditions. Those small changes to the initial state, after they branch through the system, can have a huge impact. I believe that this is the reason why miracles are so rare. A miracle, by definition, is an occurrence outside of and in violation of natural law and process. Not even The Creator is immune from the effects of interfering with natural processes. We puny humans – even (especially?) the self-anointed elites – have no choice but to endure the effects of our actions. Mike Vanderboegh was always writing about the “iron… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Bill Mullins
27 days ago

Our “elites” are not elite is the other thing. If winning a political campaign makes you elite, that’s not saying much. That doesn’t take a special person.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Falcone
27 days ago

That’s a cope. Of course being in the power structure these people inhabit makes you elite. Not everyone can be in the club. It’s like saying they’re not special because everyone puts on their pants the same way. True, but also ignores the blatant reality that…these people aren’t like you in any way else you can identify with.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Forever Templar
27 days ago

I get that point. Their positions give them power and hence elite status. But my point is they are not worthy of the position and in turn only cheapen the position. Is a Harvard education really worth what it was a generation ago? Does being Senator carry the prestige it used to? No. At some point reality is going to catch up, and these people aren’t all that gifted or bright as stewards of the machinery, so expect things to crumble rather quickly.

Boarwild
Boarwild
Reply to  Falcone
27 days ago

At some point reality is going to catch up, and these people aren’t all that gifted or bright as stewards of the machinery” –

We inhabit a kakistocracy.

Member
Reply to  Boarwild
26 days ago

Looting is seemingly the preferred new way to acquire wealth. Poor blacks do it with a baseball bat and rich people through trade deals and shady ponzi schemes. We may have simply entered the catabolic phase of our society. Overall theme: producing wealth is for saps. Grab what you can before somebody else does.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Falcone
27 days ago

No kidding. At one time “elite” meant someone who achieved excellence in their craft or profession. Now it means someone who wields political power due to their insider status as someone who benefitted from family connections and multi-generationally inherited wealth.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Bill Mullins
27 days ago

I remain convinced that here in the U.S. the lockdown was initially conceived as a way to strike at the President. I can recall Trump stating we’d re-open the country on Easter, which would have been a political and symbolic masterstroke, and the entire Establishment absolutely FREAKED. In any case, it appears we are going to have to settle for an October, Night of the Living Beer Flu Dead-style resurrection. Anybody with 2 brain cells to rub together should have known that the results of such a move would be dire. Sadly, most of the US populace appears to have… Read more »

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Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Bill Mullins
26 days ago

If anyone here is a vulture investor, here’s an idea: many States have bar/restaurant liquor licenses that are worth (say) $200,000 and are bought and sold on the open market. Perhaps their value is temporarily depressed and buying one would be a good speculative opportunity. The plague isn’t going to last forever, and no matter how bad things get, even the most dictatorial countries still have bars (ex- Muslim world).

Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
26 days ago

Potential weakness in this idea: speakeasies don’t need a licence. I’m sure there’s money to be made building the contraption that makes all the liquor bottles vanish down a shute and rotates the bar into the hidden room while replacing it with a row of candy machines.

Siddo
Siddo
27 days ago

I’m in England and regularly went to the pub to watch football with friends. These friends were not football fans but came along just to have a pint. Since the fake plague struck and they have imposed all kinds of bollocks to restrict people having a good time at the pub, we no longer go. The final nail in the coffin was when the players took the knee for some dead black US criminal. I’ll never go to the pub again to watch football. I’m not the only one to have got out of the habit.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Siddo
27 days ago

The mask-er-rade is also a discouragement or dissuasion where if you want to go out you first contemplate and calculate is it worth going through the whole mask routine? I know personally a lot of things I used to do I don’t now because they aren’t worth the hassle. I think most people are the same. I only go out now if I have to.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Falcone
26 days ago

Yep. Before the pandemic I usually shopped regularly at a dozen different stores, now it’s down to three, and I don’t make special trips if I forget something. This might be part of what is killing sports viewing. When I worked in retail, I could tell what time the local college football game was on because our store would be packed with ladies whose husbands were watching it. I would guess that lots of women don’t like the rigamarole of wearing a mask to go window shopping, and are starting home on Saturday and Sunday afternoons. As such husbands are… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Falcone
26 days ago

I guess I’m a compliant sheep with mask-wearing, but the near-uselessness of it doesn’t escape me. Today I ate lunch at a local bar-restaurant. Yes, you must wear a mask to enter. Once inside, I was seated near the bar/TV area. The place was pretty full. At least here in FL, white men still watch the Sunday game*. Clearly, one can’t wear a mask when drinking or eating. I was sitting less than six feet away from the crowd of unmasked patrons. *As Drew notes below, that would also explain why the nearby grocery store was busy on a mid-Sunday… Read more »

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Lucius Sulla
Lucius Sulla
27 days ago

Agree with much of this, but I’ll add a twist. Part of the enjoyment of sports is the event and the community around it. For example, I love playoff hockey. When it came back, I did watch a bit of it (though less than I otherwise would have once they cucked for Jacob Blake). However, I couldn’t bring myself to watch any of the Conference Finals or Stanley Cup Finals. Why? The entire concept of a team skating the Stanley Cup around an empty arena is absurd and saddens me. Much of the joy of sports is the emotion of… Read more »

Dr. Dre
Dr. Dre
Reply to  Lucius Sulla
27 days ago

I remember boaters from Detroit at the docks at Put-in-Bay OH (Lake Erie) on a rainy weekend, June 1997, with the flaps down on the sides of their boats watching the finals on tiny tvs in the cabins! Each boat had a little Red Wings flag flying from the bridge;-) I was a dockmaster there that year. Met lots of nice Michiganders that summer.

Peter
Peter
Reply to  Lucius Sulla
26 days ago

Completely agree. Great comment.

Tom K
Tom K
27 days ago

A switch has been flipped on the zeitgeist. A new zeitgeist emerges. The center cannot hold, and a rough beast stalks toward Jericho. Sports is just one casualty. The French revolution started on a tennis court. As the oligarchs feel their grip loosening, what will they do, that’s the question. Watching their trained monkeys in the streets and in their stadiums won’t be enough perhaps.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Tom K
27 days ago

Yep

This is the fin de siecle

This is the pivot point where the direction of this century is going to be decided. The first 16 years of this century were just the afterglow of the prior century

Whole new world now. Enjoy the ride.

el-porko
el-porko
Reply to  Tom K
27 days ago

I can feel it in the air. The tension is going up, up, up. The break is coming and I don’t think anyone can truly predict the results. My only prediction is that the future will not be comfortable for most.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
27 days ago

Revolution
Fantasy : Jefferson, Washington, Adams
Reality : Mao, Robespierre, Stalin

Franco and Pinochet weren’t very useful either. They were merely brief interludes in the steady march of leftward progress.

The kinds of people pushing revolution today are the kinds of people who would make Mao and Stalin blush. The rivers of blood would get so large the Gulf of Mexico would become the Red Sea. Thank God they are probably nowhere near as competent as they are bloodthirsty.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  tarstarkas
27 days ago

The French Revolution is interesting because it happened so quickly and was so compressed. In a way you could say that all of US history in the last 120 years was a very slow motion version of it. Of course the next part would be the terrors. It’ll more likely end with a breakup though rather than a Napoleon. It’s not a Napoleon kind of place.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  JR Wirth
26 days ago

It’s also interesting because the end result of killing king Louis and getting rid of the monarchy was… putting a Bourbon on the throne, after Napoleon of course. Revolutions tend to not accomplish much beyond the violent death of revolutionaries.

Member
Reply to  Drew
26 days ago

Let’s not downplay the value in that though. Really vacuums some of the worst algae out of the gene pool.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  tarstarkas
27 days ago

RE: Competence- it’s important to remember that France was full of French, Russia full of Russians, and China full of Chinese.

There’s plenty of examples of 3rd World detritus revolutions, but no one talks about them and they just result in unresolvable bloodbaths.

B123
B123
Reply to  MemeWarVet
27 days ago

Balkans X Rhodesia X Indian partition

James O'Meara
James O'Meara
Reply to  tarstarkas
27 days ago

Franco? 1936-1975 is more than a brief interlude, (other than in the Big Picture, of course). More attention should be paid to Franco and his Iberian buddy, Salazar, another long lived “fascist dictator” who made it work, rather than the Little Colonel who failed miserably and made everything worse forever.

James O'Meara
James O'Meara
Reply to  James O'Meara
27 days ago

Sorry, Little Corporal; Hitler, not Shirley Temple.

Member
Reply to  James O'Meara
26 days ago

Was starting to wonder when Hitler got promoted.

Sandmich
Reply to  James O'Meara
24 days ago

I wonder if there can be a western version of the Japanese Tokagawa dictatorship, what I believe is the world’s longest running military dictatorship. Yeah it eventually ran out of steam, after like 400 years…

ExPraliteMonk
ExPraliteMonk
Reply to  tarstarkas
26 days ago

A good read on this subject: “Drop Your Weapons—When And Why Civil Resistance Works” by Erica Chenoweth and Maria J. Stephens Their data set contained 323 campaigns from 1919 to 2016. Covered all known violent and nonviolent campaigns with >1000 participants. NONVIOLENT MOVEMENTS  • 2x likely to succeed. • Increased chances of democratic rule. • Attracts a larger group of participants. • 50% chance of success during a violent crackdown. Violent campaigns have a 20% chance. • 4x more likely to transition to democracy, even if the movement fails, than movements using violence at the outset. • Require less outside… Read more »

Member
Reply to  ExPraliteMonk
26 days ago

A couple of wammen telling us to give up our weapons. I’ve heard this somewhere before.

Falcone
Falcone