The Big Lie

The expression “the big lie” gets tossed around a lot in modern times, usually defined as the means with which the Nazis fooled the people. In reality, the expression was coined by the most significant man in history to explain how the people who tried to prevent the catastrophe of the Great War ended up being blamed for it. The big lie is a falsehood so big that no one would think it possible to state such a lie. In other words, it is believed because it is so outlandish it must be true.

One of the many ironies of this age is that the people the most significant man in history accused of employing the “the big lie” have spent generations since that time redefining it to mean Nazi propaganda. In popular culture, the Left will apply the expression to some inconvenient facts pointed out by their many enemies. They claim a famous propaganda minister associated with the most significant man in history is the guy who coined the expression to describe his own efforts.

That is the real trick of “the big lie” that gets missed. The audaciousness of it distracts the attention of people. Instead of focusing on the facts of something happening in society, their eye moves to some other related thing. It’s no different than how a magician uses distraction to get the audience looking one way while he some other sleight of hand. Even though you know he does not possess magical powers, you are amazed nonetheless.

We see this in how the term “fascist” is used in this age. The Left in the West has always accused their enemies of being fascists, even when there were no actual fascists vying for political power. For a period, fascists and communist were locked in a bitter struggle for the soul of socialism, so it makes sense. In America is never made much sense, as we never had fascists or a communist party of note, but for the Left everywhere, it is always monkey see, monkey do.

Even so, through the Cold War, a popular way to make sport of the Left in America was to mock their absurd use of the word “fascist.” It was only the hardcore cranks who used the term, so even the conventional Left would mock them for it. The left-wing crazy was the guy making his own clothes and growling his own food, so he was not a prisoner of the fascists running society. The joke relied on the fact that America was a bourgeois society, so we did not have fascists or communists.

Of course, the term is everywhere now, as the rulers and their loyalists wage jihad against our ancient liberties. The excuse for their excess is they are fighting fascists, so it is okay. They have internalized their mythology about themselves and the world around them to such a degree they really think Donald Trump was some sort of fascist dictator plotting to seize power. They are sure that the peaceful protest at the Capitol was their version of the Reichstag fire.

This is the modern version of “the big lie.” Look around at what is happening and it is as close as any western society has come to fascism in 80 years. The people stripping the rights of Americans are not government employees, but corporate powers. The vitriol from the politicians may be the signal to act, but the people trying to destroy Trump and his supporters are corporate actors, not the state. Corporatism is a foundation stone of fascism and that is what is usurping the authority of our system now.

In other words, the big lie here is that the people allegedly under assault are the people wielding power. That is a lie so big that no one would believe that someone “could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously.” The people with a monopoly of power are crying out in agony as they crush their enemies. Their claims to be on defense are a lie to distract from the fact they have assumed total power. Amazon can offer murder for hire to prime members and no one can stop them.

This is the “the big lie” in neon. The people who are engaging in a modern version of fascism are claiming to be the great enemies of fascism. This leaves the genuine opponents of genuine fascism without a language they can use. Calling what is happening Marxism is so stupid only the dullards accept it. The communist would not have allowed the tech giants off the leash. They would not have been slavishly in support of the financialization of the economy.

Another part of this big lie is that over time the fans of the most significant man in history have accepted the premise of the big lie as their big truth. That is, fascism exclusively means opposition to nonwhites. The result is we have the self-proclaimed fascists reinforcing the premise put forward by the actual fascists that they cannot possible be fascists, because they are not white. In this version of the big lie, the fascists have created an enemy and put him to service in their cause.

The thing with a lie, big or small, is it is like trying to conceal a body. Like a body after a murder, no matter how well you hide the truth, no matter how many layers of lies you throw on it, its absence is noticed. This is the problem facing our new fascist overlords as they scramble to consolidate their power. Whatever this new system is, people know it is not democracy or constitutional government. No amount of lying can change that realty and eventually, there will be a word for it.


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Severian
11 days ago

Georges Sorel, who had a few ideas worth looking at, might call it “anarcho-syndicalism.” There is a long tradition of anti-Marx critique *from the Left* that has some things to teach us – Proudhon was a hard core Socialist who predicted that Marxian socialism would end in tyranny and gulags, for instance. Bakunin was a psycho, but a perceptive one, and so on.

whitney
Member
Reply to  Severian
11 days ago

Everyone with a mind that could follow things to their logical conclusion predicted it would end in gulags and mass murder. There have been voices crying in the wilderness all the way along. What do you think Dostoevsky and Nietzsche were writing about when they said 100 million dead. they didn’t see it but they knew it was coming

whitney
Member
Reply to  whitney
11 days ago

And has a knowledge of human nature. And that is what the left throws out. They don’t believe that there is an inherent nature. Nature is something that can be shaped and this is universal among the left they all believe this and always have

Gobstopper
Gobstopper
Reply to  whitney
11 days ago

Excellent point. That is a profound, perhaps the most profound, difference between left and right.

Also, that progress is inevitable, and that there are new evils, and new goods.

100 years ago, sodomy was seen universally, as a garment rending evil, now, its the foundation of marriage, something to be proud of, and celebrated.

ExPraliteMonk
ExPraliteMonk
Reply to  Gobstopper
11 days ago

And gonorrhea is officially incurable now—there is no antibiotic for some strains. Break the laws of nature at your peril.

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Black Flag
Black Flag
Reply to  ExPraliteMonk
11 days ago

I’m just glad at least every third commercial now offers a new prescription HIV medication. So inspiring.

Peter D. Bredon
Peter D. Bredon
Reply to  Black Flag
10 days ago

You really need to get a better selection of channels on your cable package.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Peter D. Bredon
10 days ago

Only Conservatives are dumb enough to allow someone with opposing values to program them or brainwash their kids in the name of tolerance.
All right leaning people need to dump cable actually along with most media since the people their are opposed to your values and it puts money in their pockets.
Go read old books, paint, whittle, draw or do anything else but watch cable.
More importantly, be narrow minded, its good for you and good for society.

My Comment
Member
Reply to  abprosper
10 days ago

“Only Conservatives are dumb enough to allow someone with opposing values to program them or brainwash their kids” Yes. And only conservatives are dumb enough to not understand the importance of controlling the school system. As long as conservatives can send their kids to private school or homeschool, they are willing to let the the people who hate them use their tax money to brainwash the vast majority of kids to hate whites and conservatives. Unless conservatives plan for their children to be survivalists with no contact with modern society, their children therefore will be seen as the enemy of… Read more »

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  My Comment
10 days ago

Good post.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  My Comment
10 days ago

There should not be a ‘school system.’ American literacy was highest was children were taught by parents, dame schools, and then private schools for those who were capable of continuing. We don’t need to engage with ‘modern society;’ we need to construct our own, White society.

My Comment
Member
Reply to  3g4me
10 days ago

Yes. There shouldn’t be a school system but in the meantime conservatives and the dissident right pay taxes to a system that teaches students to hate them. You will go to jail if you don’t pay taxes so the next best thing is to fight back and gain control of that system in red areas. It is especially absurd that taxpayers in red areas are letting leftist schools run wild at taxpayer expense and not putting a stop to it. It is a variation of the capitalist selling you the rope to hang him

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  ExPraliteMonk
9 days ago

In the scientific sense, it is impossible to break the laws of nature. It is not impossible to make the attempt, but the result is typically a mess.

pyrrhus
Reply to  whitney
11 days ago

Which is why the nonsensical “blank slate” theory pushed by Academia and politicians is so important to the Left…They cannot acknowledge the differences in human nature…

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  pyrrhus
10 days ago

They cannot accept the fact that their demented social engineering schemes and massive wealth transfers from whites to blacks solve nothing and only make matters worse. Biology is an irreducible ontological fact of which they will never admit.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  pyrrhus
10 days ago

Multi Ethnic Empires like the USA have to keep everyone under the Imperial flag and thus have to encourage absolute nonsense to keep the groups from each others throats.
It still won’t work but a dying empire has no imperial dignity and will do or believe anything for one more day.

dinothedoxie
dinothedoxie
Reply to  whitney
10 days ago

.The Tabula Rasa has been the defining belief of leftism for the last three-four hundred years.

But now they are embracing the concept of original sin – being white – genetically European is inherently privileged and therefor sinful – with no redemption possible.

Not sure how that internal contradiction will resolve or if it will tear their movement apart.

Gobstopper
Gobstopper
Reply to  dinothedoxie
10 days ago

yes, a twisted Christianity

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  whitney
11 days ago

Goes unsaid that letting middling people run society is disastrous

rule by bourgeoisie has been hell

Peter D. Bredon
Peter D. Bredon
Reply to  Falcone
10 days ago

Now that the proles have their turn, you’ll beg for the bourgeoise to come back.

Edgy Civnat
Edgy Civnat
Reply to  Peter D. Bredon
10 days ago

Jeb Bush is a prole!

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Edgy Civnat
10 days ago

The so called 9-11 hijackers spent more time in the strip clubs of Florida learning how not to fly Cessna’s than they ever did in Afghanistan. Why wassn’t Jeb Bush bombed for harboring terrorists?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Peter D. Bredon
10 days ago

Proles? More like a collection of the most deranged and dysfunctional people society has to offer.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Falcone
10 days ago

Democracy is overrated.

Craig Austin
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
10 days ago

It is 2 wolves and a sheep deciding on the dinner menu if done poorly. Voting is a skill not a right, letting everyone with a pulse vote isn’t Democracy it is the beginning of tribal warfare and mob rule. Gather up enough tribal alliances, temporary or not, to get a majority, and then vote to destroy the minority. Repeat.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Craig Austin
10 days ago

“Voting is a skill, not a right”

I like that very much.

diconez
diconez
Reply to  Severian
10 days ago

Is there any other kind of socialism? Anarchosyndicalism is pretty much communes all over. Ukraine tried it, they had some of that noble-crazy Bakunin spirit, but was defeated and failed just the same. The experiences of Spanish anarchists were lamer even, as during the civil war most wouldn’t keep the needed discipline. Thus some societal cephalization is needed for logistics purposes, as long as it’s balanced to the local and traditional. I’d prefer Distributism (best), but you can call it nationalsyndicalism or guild socialism if you want the s-words that much. Really any more or less fancy third-way position name… Read more »

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Chester White
Chester White
11 days ago

Absolutely central to the totalitarian project is the corruption of the meaning of words.

Altitude Zero
Altitude Zero
Reply to  Chester White
11 days ago

Part of the problem, of course,is that what we are facing right now is Left-Wing Fascism, which is something of a new phenomenon in history. People tend to associate Fascism with physically fit marching white guys in cool uniforms, nationalism, and charismatic leaders, so when they see the crowd of autistic nebbishes, dysfunctional browns, grasping globalists, and hysterical wine aunts that are actually our ruling class, the last thing that they think of is Fascism, even though that is exactly what it is. Spandrell gets some things wrong, IMHO, but he’s absolutely right about Bioleninism – the rule of the… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Altitude Zero
11 days ago

Wilson and the original Progressive movement was an iteration of what is happening now. The religion swapped racial aspects, but the common theme was improvement of man and salvation through agreeing with the tenets of the faith.

ExPraliteMonk
ExPraliteMonk
Reply to  Jack Dobson
10 days ago

Someone once said: one copy of the Christian gene makes you a classical liberal. Two copies make you a progressive.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Jack Dobson
9 days ago

Someday a new Landlord will evict those “tenets” 🙂

Gobstopper
Gobstopper
Reply to  Altitude Zero
11 days ago

People tend to associate Fascism with physically fit marching white guys in cool uniforms, nationalism, and charismatic leaders,

Which is why, perhaps, its so easy for the Left to use the F word on us

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Altitude Zero
11 days ago

Thank gods for that. Getting booted from social media sucks. Getting sent to diversity training sucks. Loosing your job sucks worse. Getting sent to a gulag or a re-education camp sucks a whole lot worse.
The real Maoists were truly evil. The cartoon copy of the Maoists running society today are far less dangerous.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  tarstarkas
11 days ago

The real Maoists were truly evil. The cartoon copy of the Maoists running society today are far less dangerous.

You’re probably going to really regret underestimating them someday, unless wiser people don’t underestimate them.

ronehjr
ronehjr
Reply to  Vizzini
11 days ago

Things are just getting started. Todays marxists have africans to do their killing now. These are people who are capable of committing genocide with farm implements. And most really hate White people.

Crispin
Crispin
Reply to  ronehjr
10 days ago

Oh the irony.
Obsolete farm equipment killing whites with farm implements.
Yikes!

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Vizzini
11 days ago

We’re talking about now.
The future is anyone’s guess. But I wouldn’t put re-education camps or anything else past them.

pyrrhus
Reply to  tarstarkas
11 days ago

Maoism always spirals left if uninterrupted, the Bolsheviks and Pol Pot, both supported by Academia, being prime examples…America will be a wasteland if these people stay in power for very long..

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
10 days ago

Boy, aren’t you the trusting soul! Don’t you see how rapidly the situation is deteriorating? Don’t you see where this all ends? Hint: Mao would be licking his chop sticks.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  tarstarkas
10 days ago

So far. They haven’t yet got the political momentum to send you to camps though deep in their hearts nearly everyone of them wants to and is working on it. It will be voluntary after a fashion. You don’t go, you can’t work, get aid or have a bank account till your social credit score is high enough, Or they may just go full Kulak on you. And not its no inevitable, the one good thing to come of that idiocy in D.C. was a visual display of the power of organization and that was just civil disobedience and nothing… Read more »

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Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  abprosper
9 days ago

Don’t organize. Be in the shadows. Strike targets of opportunity. It worked in Vietnam (for the other side….) and they eventually won.

Peter D. Bredon
Peter D. Bredon
Reply to  Altitude Zero
10 days ago

People tend to associate Fascism with physically fit marching white guys in cool uniforms, nationalism, and charismatic leaders”

Really?comment image

theRussians
theRussians
Member
Reply to  Peter D. Bredon
10 days ago

The best part is that tech only has to throw so few dollars in the pot. Today’s neo-fascist is largely subsidized by mommy while wapo/nyt pays some idiot to pen 600 words, picks the target of today’s violence and sits back… I’d like to think they have a good laugh but I think they believe in what they’re doing (not that they understand any of it)

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Altitude Zero
10 days ago

The least fit fule for the simple reason they have a enforcer class of violent, physically able whites to enforce their edicts.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Rwc1963
10 days ago

This is, without doubt, one of the weirdest tics of “conservative” cops: their compulsion to enforce laws their religious/political beliefs would deem immoral. It’s like they can’t grasp that its not a big deal to leave evil laws unenforced.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Drew
10 days ago

Most police are selected to obey orders not think. Its virtually a hereditary caste too (for example TV’s Blue Bloods) much as military service is in some families. This is why a DR might consider mandatory national service for all men and if needed occupational restriction on law enforcement as needed. Its also sadly why so many difficult cases go unsolved and so many American vanish each year. Some of this is resources but its also the LEO’s are more a peacekeeping meets brute squad for ghettos and poor neighborhoods than detectives and community police. Under DR regime I’d be… Read more »

dinothedoxie
dinothedoxie
Reply to  Altitude Zero
10 days ago

Its mostly forgotten today that Fascism was an anti-materialist philosophy. Which does not mean that they were ascetic but that they saw an animating spirit as more important to life an history than an accumulation of property and rejected the materialist determinism of marxism. The various flavors of fascism saw that spirit as the customs, culture and religion of their nations. Jump forward to today and the antifa fascists are also an anti-materialist movement. Except that they see the European spirit as evil instead of inspiring. In that way they are more of a mirror image to the fascists of… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  dinothedoxie
10 days ago

The customs and culture today’s fascists revere are African.

Reynard
Reynard
Member
Reply to  Chester White
11 days ago

Absolutely central to the totalitarian project is the corruption of the meaning of words. I agree with you.This is one of the most effective tools of the Progressives today. How many of us have rolled our eyes upon hearing “No, actually People of Color can’t be racist towards whites, since whites have institutional power blah blah blah.” Racism is racism unless… its black on white? Labels have also become absurd and meaningless in themselves. There is no objective standard, only the trends of the day: “People of color is preferred.” “Colored People? Why you horrible racist bigot!” Another one of… Read more »

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Valley Lurker
Valley Lurker
Reply to  Reynard
11 days ago

Shooting up little Jimmy with hormone blockers because his mom wants to see him really rock that dress.

Reynard
Reynard
Member
Reply to  Valley Lurker
11 days ago

lol How much more absurd can it get? We’re at the point, where even biology and sex is merely a “social construct” subject to alteration.
“Having a penis means you are a potential woman.”

theRussians
theRussians
Member
Reply to  Reynard
10 days ago

The “trans is real” folks are still my personal favorites 🤪

Valley Lurker
Valley Lurker
Reply to  Reynard
10 days ago

We’re dealing with a class of people who have been trying to gaslight that Big Mike Obama and Bad Vodoo Mama Abrams are “sexy” and “stunning” so there is really no idea how much more absurd they can get beyond that.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Valley Lurker
11 days ago

It’s like that sign you see hanging in many bars: “There are no straights here. Just fags who haven’t sucked cock yet!”

Leonard E Herr
11 days ago

They’re not lying to be believed, in fact they want you to know they’re lying. This is a demonstration of raw power to show who is the master and who is the slave. Dominance and submission, a playbook as old as mankind.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Leonard E Herr
11 days ago

And in this kind of political struggle, symbolism is everything. It’s why politics will always be downstream from culture. Culture is a raw commodity that can be the most potent weapon in a politician’s arsenal. It is the kinetic energy of politics. Too bad the Stupid Party can’t figure this out.

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Epaminondas
11 days ago

The Stupid Party is (or was, until it imploded) perfectly fine with the status quo.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Jack Dobson
11 days ago

They still have no idea. None. At. All.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Jack Dobson
10 days ago

Assuming we mean the same stupid party here, they are dominated by the desire for money above all else .That desire was so overwhelming that they allowed the US to be destroyed. In fact they preferred to turn the US into Brazil meets Cuba rather than allow wages to go up and people to have better lives. The burned the US down to avoid the one wage, 30 hour work week America the 60’s assumed would happen. The Left now temporary allies will turn on them in time but it will be far too late by than. Until the DR… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  abprosper
10 days ago

“Please, take my children’s future, just don’t take my stuff!”

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Paintersforms
10 days ago

Exactly that.

pyrrhus
Reply to  Epaminondas
11 days ago

The Stupid Party, most of which is on the take from China, Israel, and Big Tech, doesn’t want to figure it out…..

DLS
DLS
Reply to  pyrrhus
10 days ago

It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it. -Upton Sinclair

Leonard E Herr
Reply to  thezman
11 days ago

No doubt. I’ve worked at all levels of government and it is well stocked with useful idiots. Those who rise to the top however are anything but, and I have no illusions they share my motivations. There is a particular type of human who wants to dominate everything (literally) and they frequently manage to assume power over the true believers, and we know how that ends.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  thezman
11 days ago

Another mistake we make is sending out mixed signals. While it’s true that big tech companies need reined in by the government, we make it hard to do this when we continue to do business with them. We literally pay for the lobbyists they hire to suppress us. Boycotting them is a necessary precursor to returning them, yet few event try to make that measly sacrifice.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Drew
11 days ago

Not having Netflix is too much to ask for most dissidents. One dissident I used to follow got all butthurt because he got stuck in Disney World in Paris when the lockdowns first started. He had his single digit aged daughter in friggin Disney! This guy would do youtube videos on how Disney is pumping evil into children’s heads. He knows Disney is evil. Yet he cannot keep his daughter away from it. Perhaps he was just a shill, but then why do videos about how he and his daughter were stuck in Disney and advertise it? We’re always saying… Read more »

Drew
Drew
Reply to  tarstarkas
11 days ago

To be honest, I’m not sure if it’s weakness, a lack of self-awareness, or just a surplus of stupidity that explains that behavior. Given what happened last Wednesday, I’m leaning towards stupidity. It’s like they have no mental to connect downstream consequences to present decisions.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  thezman
11 days ago

Almost every white liberal that I meet truly believes everything that’s been thrown out over the past four years. Russia, Trump is Hitler, BLM, you name it. It’s hard to discern their motivations. It’s not fear of getting in trouble because they obviously believe the party line. They definitely hate rural (and, especially, Southern) whites, which is interesting because some of them are from the Midwest or South. I get the animosity of a certain tribe. They’re brought up on stories of how they narrowly escaped being wiped out by Badwhites. But the hatred – not dislike but hatred –… Read more »

Hilltop
Hilltop
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
11 days ago

NPCs really is a great term for them. No surprise they banned it. Too much truth. They always ban the truth.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Hilltop
10 days ago

NPCs?

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
10 days ago

From video games = Non Player Character. Essentially all the zombies and aliens you shoot, the random strangers in a bar, etc. In a film, they would just be called extras or some minor background character.

Some Guy
Some Guy
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
11 days ago

History is full of instances where elites massacred and sold out (in some cases literally) their own people for personal gain. There was just a brief period where that was discouraged but that discouragement was not due to brotherhood but the progressives wanting to seek power. First they undermined the old order by promising egalitarianism and then when they got power, erected their own form of elitism we see today. Poor and working class whites benefited from that brief stretch of egalitarianism but it was never meant to be. The middle class is a historical aberration and we are regressing… Read more »

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Some Guy
11 days ago

Not only was it an aberration, but it was a 25-30 year aberration. Basically one generation hung onto it and that is despite the massive selling off of all that wealth. While the underclass never really truly went away, it was very small. But it has been steadily growing since the end of the 70s. It has been accelerating since the 90s. All those white men dying of opiate overdoses are the sons of factory workers getting paid good money and a good pension. All those starving cat women working at Buzzfeed and the like and “sex workers” are the… Read more »

B125
B125
Reply to  tarstarkas
11 days ago

A great trick was fooling those cat ladies into thinking that lifestyle was “empowerment” when in reality it’s just a decline in living standards back to serfdom and poverty. Same thing with the bugman urban millenial – he think he’s living a cool and hip lifestyle but he’s actually a disposable wage slave.

The non-urban lower class white men didn’t even get fooled I guess they just decided to die off.

To be fair such a society could never be maintained with modern morals anyways, the levels of degeneracy and wealthy since the 1960s have always pointed to a decline.

ExPraliteMonk
ExPraliteMonk
Reply to  B125
10 days ago

EMPOWERMENT is the cheat code to reprogram a liberal, Western female to do whatever you want. She’ll happily participate in any depravity you can imagine—and some you can’t—if you convince her it will be empowering.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  B125
10 days ago

They want the “freedoms” of being a man without realizing that they are necessary because of the responsibility of providing for a family.
At the core, society is simple
Women are evolved, or created, take your pick, to do the single most important thing of any species, the bearing and nurturing of the next generation. Three billion years of success so far. Men are there to do all the other things necessary to make that successful. Two very different roles and competencies.

dinothedoxie
dinothedoxie
Reply to  B125
10 days ago

I’ve gotten in the habit of telling young women that brag about their careers that
I too think its more important for you to shag my drinks than raise kids. Get to it.
Which universally pisses them off – and also makes them think just exactly what they fuck their doing.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  tarstarkas
10 days ago

Tars: “The “elite” have overseen the dismantling of the wealthiest and happiest society that has ever been.” Very true. What too many (on both sides) often forget is that half of all White people have IQs below 100. These are not bad or evil or even exceptionally stupid people, but not everyone is born to be in damned STEM. A solid, functioning culture needs its truck drivers and factory workers who can earn a solid wage and raise a family from honest work. The jobs were deliberately exported and now men have no work and no family. A society of… Read more »

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  3g4me
10 days ago

Couldn’t agree more. That was my point. It is largely not the sons of the STEM workers killing themselves with dope. It is the sons of factory workers and other union men and men who worked hard. It’s not really even intelligence. A machinist, for example, generally does not need a college education, but you are just not going to meet a sub 95 IQ machinist. We have far too much “education” in America. It starts in Jr high school and just gets worse as you go forward. There are high schools in America where not a single “teen” can… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  3g4me
10 days ago

Yep, why my own CivNat response to the world around us was to work with what you have and build an economy around it. We have lots of people of all races who simply don’t have what it takes to be in STEM or finance. So we need manufacturing and blue collar jobs. It’s our civic duty to create an economy that works for all.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  3g4me
10 days ago

Tractors destroyed more honest work than foreign trade did. While resenting foreigners is great fun, it’s good to remember that the Western war on menial jobs was a pincer attack, and one of the pincers is technology.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Drew
10 days ago

I don’t resent foreigners because it’s ‘great fun,’ but because they’re invading and colonizing my country. If you’re going to resent tractors you might as well resent the automobile because buggy whip makers lost their jobs. Anti-tech can, like anything else, be taken too far. There are still plenty of factory jobs in the world that will never entirely go away, they’ve just been offshored.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Drew
10 days ago

All of those jobs still exist, they just don’t exist in America because people decided that making a few extra dollars by putting a whole town out of work by off-shoring was a good thing.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  3g4me
9 days ago

Agree, except in motives. Of course humans are capable of great, deliberate evils. But I think, like the old expression, that much of what we think is malice is just stupidity, or even just innocent or even well-intentioned activity without regard for consequences. E.g. it wasn’t some evil Jewish/Communist plot to marginalize rural Whites by making them unemployed, it was driven by a capitalist desire for profits by minimizing costs (again, short term goals over long term costs.) A comparable, indeed worse in many ways, problem is that posed by our extant Negro population. Yes, they are a problem, but… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Some Guy
10 days ago

True. In my reading of feudal Europe, what struck me the most was how deeply the nobility despised their own people.

It does feel like we’re moving back to a feudal order where the elites control all of the wealth generating assets and the poor are basically slaves.

King Tut
King Tut
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
9 days ago

“You will own nothing and you will be happy”.

I have been telling everyone who is willing to listen that what we face is not communism or even socialism but neo-feudalism.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Some Guy
9 days ago

Even our legacy populationof Melanic Hominids™ qualify; they were literally “sold” although most likley by a neighboring tribe, to European ships waiting in the harbor.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
11 days ago

> It’s hard to discern their motivations. It’s not fear of getting in trouble because they obviously believe the party line. They definitely hate rural (and, especially, Southern) whites, which is interesting because some of them are from the Midwest or South. For a large portion of progressives, they believe what makes them feel powerful. They see in rural whites the sports jock who got all the girls, while nobody understood their moral and intellectual superiority. As our social structures break down and traitors are rewarded with social media accolades as opposed to rope, this is going to do nothing… Read more »

Peabody
Peabody
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
11 days ago

It’s status signaling. Nothing deeper than that. I’m surrounded by these chowder heads and NPR is their Oracle. At least the older ones. The younger have been assaulted on all sides from birth and the ones with idiot or absentee parents get absorbed into the cult. One can read about the creatures telling the Big Lies in the Gospel of John.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
11 days ago

If it helps, good whites aren’t actually kin to bad whites. There is real ethnic diversity among the melanin-challenged, so it’s a bit thick to believe that skin color alone is sufficient to inspire group loyalty in this instance. I recommend a book called the American nations for a more detailed analysis of the history of puritanical hatred of Southerners. The TL;DR is that it’s an extension of British class/ethnic strife from the 16th and 17th centuries.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Drew
11 days ago

if a white nationalistic movement were to emerge it would be sabotaged from the inside by other whites, mainly CHRISTIANS, who will attack other whites for being immoral(which means cucks).
bad whites have always been plagued by the idea of fairness and morality, same shit can be seen in republicans, this is beyond politics, it’s the legacy of christianity on the white religious mind.
Cleansing areas of blacks will be seen as evil, many whites will turn on each other if this were to happen.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  sentry
10 days ago

“if”

There’s the rub, isn’t it? It’s not Christianity that precluded white nationalism, it’s the fact that there is no “white” nation. The melanin-impaired in France don’t identify as white, or even European, they identify as French. Even in America, non-legacy whites identify themselves by their ancestral ethnicity (Irish, Italian, German, etc.) My ancestors fought the British in revolutionary war, and I still identify myself by my mixed ancestral ethnicity. The white identity doesn’t exist because there’s nothing to it beyond melanin content.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Drew
10 days ago

europeans are all cousins, that’s all that matters, a strong europe means a strong germany, a strong italy, a strong eastern europe, etc
What would an irish gain if brits suffer? Do they realize they’re next?

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Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Drew
10 days ago

makes me wonder if the aim of America with its “everyone is welcome” wasn’t some way to encourage mixing among the white tribes so they lose their sense of themselves and their real heritage, making them easier to manipulate.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Falcone
10 days ago

Maybe. The catholic church has laws against consanguineous marriage, which helped eliminate small-scale intertribal conflict in Europe. Scaling away from tribalism seems to make cooperation more feasible on a large level, but as (((some))) have shown in recent times, the non-tribalistic can be dominated by the intensely tribalistic. I don’t know if I’d want constant tribal warfare like Africa, though, some I’m not sure if it’s best to encourage or discourage mixing.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Falcone
10 days ago

It was a Jew in the 19 aughts who came up with the term “Melting pot”.
Draw what conclusions you will from that.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Bilejones
9 days ago

In the 1970s, one of my high school history teachers wryly quipped that in the melting pot, it is the slag (waste) that rises to the top 🙂

Edgy Civnat
Edgy Civnat
Reply to  Drew
10 days ago

What is the ethnicity of “legacy whites”?
What was the ethnicity of the people who fought the British?
Never really agreed with the well-used phrase: American colonists.
American identity began with rejecting English identity.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Drew
10 days ago

White identity may not be a powerful reality, but the white race most assuredly exists. Russians and Portuguese, Icelanders and Bulgarians, share far more genetic material than they do with Asians, let alone sub-Saharan Africans. And the four nationalities I mentioned will be far more comfortable with one another than with anybody else because they share this little thing called Western civilization.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
9 days ago

Alas, much of the history of Western Cvilization will show that most blood has been spilled between brothers. The story for non-white races is pretty much the same. Even the Old Testament offers us the first story of the “brotherhood of man”: Cain and Abel 🙁

Sandmich
Reply to  sentry
10 days ago

At least we’ve reached the point where whites have some idea about what they want, though they’re still obstinate about what it would take to get there. The thought of automatically siding with some white person who is a stranger over a black guy who they might know, for instance, is completely foreign.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Sandmich
10 days ago

The thought of automatically siding with some white person who is a stranger over a black guy who they might know, for instance, is completely foreign.
imagine if the black person starts crying and begging, I can’t imagine the cuckery that will unfold.

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
Reply to  Drew
10 days ago

Yes, the study of the English civil war really opened my eyes to the history of conflict that came here pre made before the ships landed. The settlers in the North and in the South were from the beginning of different cultures.

dinothedoxie
dinothedoxie
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
10 days ago

They were from different cultures before they ever came to America.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
11 days ago

 But the hatred – not dislike but hatred – of Goodwhites toward their own kin is a bit of a mystery to me. One of the most profound things Tucker Carlson has ever said was some unbridled RealTalk that he truth bombed last week. Watch from 7:00 to about 9:00 and you will get your answer. Many of them see shades of their roots in these people and where they ‘escaped’ from to get to Cloud City. The sheer thought of their prole upbringing fills them with utter hatred. It is also why they scream the loudest about RAYCISS! because… Read more »

B125
B125
Reply to  Apex Predator
11 days ago

There maybe be some truth to that. Are “nouveau riche” UMC and Upper Class whites a) more liberal and b) more likely to have actual poverty/trashy roots? I don’t see much hatred towards dirt people from wealthier white conservatives (people, not the idiots in the republican party). It’s more indifference. We are two separate groups. FWIW almost all the wealthier conservatives I know, their ancestors were doing fine back in the agrarian days too – either small farm owner or farm equipment mechanic etc. Over time the more intelligent moved to cities to do other work. Alot of liberals had… Read more »

Peabody
Peabody
Reply to  Apex Predator
11 days ago

The most annoying shitlib I know grew up in Alabama 70+ years ago and I suspect the family had a black mammy. Now she’s in constant signaling overdrive mode trying to wash clean her imaginary sins. The problem with these people in a nutshell is they have no standards. They just glide down the progressive river gathering up whatever flotsam and jetsam gets pushed out by the “enlightened” and incorporate it in to their incoherent world view.

Paul Bonneau
Paul Bonneau
Reply to  Apex Predator
10 days ago

I always wonder why people want into Cloud City, the land where everything is fake and mentally trashy. Is living among evil backstabbers that appealing?

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Paul Bonneau
10 days ago

They’re inclined toward being evil backstabbers themselves, so yes, it does appeal to them. Birds of a feather.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
11 days ago

but hatred – of Goodwhites toward their own kin is a bit of a mystery to me.
it pays for goodwhites to hate their own.
if tables were reversed they’d love their own, they are pragmatic, they go with what the system tells them, hoping they get benefits from it.
just look at media and entertainment, it’s filled with nobodies who got to that position only cause they are woke.

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Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
11 days ago

I see the hatred as social climbers hating and being ashamed of their roots The logical conclusion is that ambition and careerism selects for the type of people who would throw their own families under the bus to get ahead. The model is broken. Scouring the land for high SAT-scorers from the middle class and elevating them into prestigious universities and so forth has given us this hell. I’ll say what I believe knowing it may not be that popular, but if you don’t come from money and power you shouldn’t be given it or ever trusted with it. Yes,… Read more »

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Falcone
10 days ago

I get your point here, but wonder how did those who are from “old” money get there in the first place and how do we replace those who drop out of that class, i.e., the end of such dynasties.

Seems to me some societal mobility is a good thing.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Falcone
8 days ago

Yes, this is covered in Charles Murray Coming Apart and no doubt other works. There has always (well, modern times) been a premium on high intelligence; it accelearted in the USA in the mid-20th century and is a dominant sorting mechanism today. Of course, it (inadvertently) sorts by race etc. since dim bulbs are more prevalent in some races than others.This has its downsides, not hte least of which is the intelligent are more apt to be removed from Spittoon County, where they might once have been locally successful. Instead, they are a mid-level grunt in a cubicle in a… Read more »

dinothedoxie
dinothedoxie
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
10 days ago

Pathological virtue signalling is one of the weaknesses of white people. Combined with out group preference it leads to whites fighting their neighbor and cousin and brother over outsiders. (The inverse of the old saw about Arabs)

Surfguy
Surfguy
Reply to  dinothedoxie
10 days ago

Abolition is to the actual Civil War what BLM is to today’s cold civil war: a pretext for good whites killing bad whites.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
9 days ago

Don’t forget that Green energy (Wind, Solar, etc.) and Electric Cars are already more economical than the fossil-fuelled tech they replace 😀

Sandmich
Reply to  thezman
11 days ago

Something that struck me from the Capital protest was the left fervently running interference for…Mitch McConnell? Are they that stupid? Apparently the answer is yes. Anyone that dimwitted and unbalanced is prone to believe anything.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Sandmich
11 days ago

Why would you find that striking? He’s one of them.

Sandmich
Reply to  c matt
10 days ago

I get BigCorp shielding him, but even with the low opinion I have of the lefties in my wife’s social media timeline I’d think they’d remember what they were posting maybe a 100 hours earlier.

Johnny o' the Lake
Johnny o' the Lake
Reply to  thezman
11 days ago

You’re both right: “To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies.”

–Orwell on doublethink.

(And for those people who complain that Orwell is quoted too much: nope, not having it. He was one of the greatest political psychologists of all time, and his truths, like those of any great thinker-writer, bear repeating.)

Severian
Reply to  thezman
11 days ago

Oh, they really believe all right, to the bottom of their souls. Just to take a minor (in the grand scheme of things) example, the people I stay in touch with in academia are, to a persyn, convinced that COVID has killed millions, and that there are bodies rotting in the streets. Nothing, absolutely nothing, can convince them otherwise. They make the Q-tards look sane and reasonable. They remind me of nothing more than prisoners being led to the back room in the Lubyanka, yelling “wait until Comrade Stalin hears about this!”

B125
B125
Reply to  Severian
11 days ago

A family member broke down and cried out of concern that I was going to die from COVID because I don’t follow lockdown rules. He is also destroying his mental health, and social life, by becoming a hermit to “fight COVID” – The virus has affected his health and life overall alot more than mine.

The same person also said that Trump was “about equal to Hitler” which is quite a mind boggling claim… No these people don’t even deserve the right to vote.

Severian
Reply to  B125
11 days ago

There it is. I love pointing out to all the people in my mask-happy family that I, who refuse to wear the fucking thing and will urge retailers to throw me out and / or call the cops if they insist, am the only one who has been perfectly healthy all year. Not even a fucking sniffle. They, meanwhile, have had all sorts of problems, which of course send them into a tizzy every time. Is it COVID, ohmigod! No, darling, it’s just that you’re fucking up your own immune response by carrying around a germ-laden muzzle under your nose… Read more »

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Severian
10 days ago

Well, I guess it’s confession time.

Shortly after Christmas, wife and I caught Covid. We don’t do masks and it looks like one of our friends got infected. That’s life.

Wife had a runny nostril, I had a very slight cold. Kind of glad now. I freely admit to inculcating the 24/7 non-stop fear of agonizing death from this “scourge”—albeit I did not know how much until I got diagnosed.

Folks, covid is not the end. Keep yourself strong and healthy—mentally and physically. You’ll do just fine.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  CompscI
10 days ago

My wife and I were similarly stricken: some cold/flu thing “confirmed” to be the plague. I took 25 mgs of Ivermectin and was pretty much fine in 48 hours. Wife had a week long cough.
Get your ivermectin here.
(you need 1.25 grams of this stuff.)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003T4DMPO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  CompscI
8 days ago

How do you know you had COVID? The quick (PCR) test is close to worthless, and it’s unlikely you had the more detailed blood antibody tests done.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Severian
10 days ago

Same here. Wife and I are fervent anti-maskers and haven’t had so much as a cough since last March.

B125
B125
Reply to  Severian
10 days ago

Working out, sleep, vit. D supplements , and a balanced diet including lots of red meat and fish will keep you much healthier than wearing the muzzle.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Severian
10 days ago

None of us have been sick, although younger son is forced to wear a mask at work. I always go on a cleaning binge after putting away the Christmas decorations, however, and I’m stirring up a ton of dust, which makes me sneeze repeatedly. If I do so in public, people are literally terrified and shy away.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  thezman
11 days ago

The other side is feminine. They care about ends not means.

Now that I think about it, that’s probably why everyone has been doing their damnedest to appease and avoid physical conflict. You can’t hit a woman after all!

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Steve
Steve
Reply to  thezman
11 days ago

Unfortunately Z, you are correct with the “true believer” description. My friend Henry retired from his PD job around twelve years ago after 25 years and walked away without a scratch. Five years ago he contracted MS and is now confined to a wheel chair. He has two daughters who he busted his ass for in terms of putting away money for their future and because of government school indoctrination, they now view him as the anti-Christ. I’ve witnessed both of them laying into him and the only thing missing is the frothing at the mouth. There is a maniacal… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Steve
10 days ago

Steve: Truly sorry to read about your friend’s plight, but (even though this will be unpopular) he has to accept some blame for this. He didn’t teach his wife who was head of the family. He didn’t check what his girls were being taught, or teach them not to believe all that was pushed in school. I hope he does cut them all off – make certain his will is ironclad or everything he worked for will go to everyone that wants him dead.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  3g4me
10 days ago

You are correct. When he first told me of this, he said that he and his wife asked for a meeting with the teachers and complained, they did everything but laugh at them and I explained to him that he went about this all wrong. I told him that he should have spoken with the other parents of the kids that were in the class and then reached out to all of them in order to show up as a block. I told him that the two of you are easily dismissed, now if say almost a hundred pissed off… Read more »

Sandmich
Reply to  Steve
10 days ago

I guess I should be thankful that both my parents were teachers (conservative too, I mean not as ‘conservative’ as me, but then not many people are). It meant as a kid that it was impossible to pull one over on them, but it also meant that the school was never going to pull one over on them either.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Leonard E Herr
11 days ago

For the first time in my life, I actually fear my own government.

Because of the candidates I’ve sent $ to, the books I’ve read, donations to authors, even the party I nominally affiliated with. Legal activities all…but the wayback machine on life now has real world consequences that are progressively getting more and more harsh.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Leonard E Herr
9 days ago

Classic rock tie-in (Z should like): “Dominance and Submission” is a rockin’ early 70s ballad by Blue Oyster Cult. As far as I can tell, it’s about some teens driving down to Times Square for New Years 1964.

Alex
Alex
11 days ago

This new thing is Totalitarianism^2. Why try to take over the economic functions of private industry when it will happily work hand in glove with the State?

Gobstopper
Gobstopper
11 days ago

Since the last few years, but especially in the last 6 months, I have ceased to believe anything I’ve been taught to believe about the most significant man in (recent) history.
Growing up “fascism” simply meant a kind of strong man government.

Z’s podcast on fascism, lets talk about fascism, haha, was the first time I heard any serious discussion of the subject.
We’re in a pickle, most people would have no idea about the corporate aspect of fascism. I’ve talked to these people they are not interested in learning anything.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Gobstopper
11 days ago

Here’s always been my logic

i know lots of Germans and I have never known one who was capable of the atrocities they assign to all Germans.

I have known lots of Jewish people, and I’d say 95% of them would make up shit to hurt German people and everyone else

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Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Falcone
11 days ago

Maybe luck, I’ve had some great Jewish friends, including one guy who had my back when nobody else would and probably saved me from ruin.

With that said, those guys would circle the wagons when zionism or related topics came up in conversation. Some self-policing would do them well.

B125
B125
Reply to  Paintersforms
11 days ago

I’ve always had great relationships with J*ws as well lol. I’m also not a sucker and I will call out bullshit if somebody is trying to pull a fast one on me.

The lack of in-group awareness from the average white gentile is what’s putting us in such a dangerous position. You can be friendly/polite with each other while being aware of the racial boundaries and agendas.

But yes when Zionism comes up they go mad.

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Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  B125
10 days ago

Not being a sucker— I think that’s it. They all seemed to respect it. Especially the guy I was closest to, he opened up when I kept taking him on sports bets and forgiving the debt. Life is full of stereotypes lol.

Yep, whites need to be more tribal these days. It’s the only way we’ll survive.

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Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Paintersforms
10 days ago

when you call them out, they will suck up to you

From their POV, you have to think that here they are telling a gentile a load of b.s. but he just sits there nodding his head. Would you respect the person? Would you consider that person anything but a moron? Why I think they deeply loathe evangelicals with the muh Israel stuff. When I worked corporate among a number of them, the hatred they had for evangelicals was off the charts.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Falcone
10 days ago

Like a couple of black guys I work with. I know part of them hates me, they know part of me is watching them. It’s understood and respected, even obliquely talked about, so we get along just fine.

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B125
B125
Reply to  Paintersforms
10 days ago

Yeah.

I know. They know I know. I know they know I know. The “blacker” the black, the better understanding we have. Mulattoes are nasty, and upper middle class blacks are pretty insecure too.

It’s pretty funny. We’re almost smiling.

Whites are the only group who don’t have that subconscious radar going on.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Paintersforms
10 days ago

I have had good relationships with a few on a personal level. But money is involved here, and the moment that comes into play they change. It’s bizarre, but the person you think you know flips a switch. Destroying Germans had a huge financial incentive behind it. Not to mention their vindictive nature when they feel bested by a gentile. And I will say this. I think a lot of the Trump hatred is because Trump, for all intents and purposes, is the first Jewish president. At least in the popular mind. New Yorker. Big finance. And they are livid… Read more »

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Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Falcone
10 days ago

True, but I don’t trust whites blindly either when it comes to money. Only a fool would imo. There’s plenty of us making blood money, too, sad to say.

The Most Significant Man in History
The Most Significant Man in History
Reply to  Falcone
11 days ago

That’s because you have exclusively cultivated ties with Aryan rapists that enable your hobby. You need to think outside of the box to understand those closest to you.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand

You just proved Falcone’s point, merchant.

ExPraliteMonk
ExPraliteMonk
Reply to  Falcone
10 days ago

During WWII Russian Orthodox priests paradropped from German aircraft to blow up or photograph Soviet infrastructure. Why did they do it? Because they rightly surmised they would be allowed to practice their religion under the Nazi regime but not under Communism. from Rudel, Hans Ulrich. “Stuka Pilot.” Now I take up the file of photographs of the factories in question and study them with interest. I see that a high percentage of them are already underground and are therefore partly unassailable from the air. The photographs show the dam and the power station and some of the factory buildings; they… Read more »

Fonat
Fonat
Reply to  ExPraliteMonk
10 days ago

In his Gulag Archipelago, Solshenitsyn writes at length about the huge numbers of Russian defectors supporting or even fighting for the Germans.
Also, he describes the joy in his home town of Rostov-on-Don when the local Orthodox cathedral was reopened for church services by the German occupational authorities after it had been closed, due to the communist regime, for years, if not decades.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Fonat
8 days ago

Conversely, and just proves the above points, Sozhenitsyn also points out how loyal Soviets who’d fought against the Germans and had the bad luck to be taken captive, upon release, or even voluntarily returning from the free West after the war, often were charged as traitors and shot or sent to the gulags. For their part, the Germans were more apt to treat the invaded peoples quite barbarically. Their exploitation of these Orthodox priests was just that. If they’d treated the conquered lands a bit more humanely (was that even possible?) it is quite possible the war would have had… Read more »

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Gobstopper
10 days ago

Is fascism “corporatism” or is fascism a government that is explicitly devoted to the founding stock of the country?

The “most significant man in history” was not wrong.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  LineInTheSand
10 days ago

Fascism is chauvinistic and racist. In its present form, it is black chauvinism combined with anti-white racism.

Juri
Juri
11 days ago

Why not use the word communism ? One weird thing in our side is that we desperately try to invent beautiful words describing our enemies. Liberal left, snowflakes, anarchists, activists or whatever , just only it must sound beautiful and never associate with any bad thing.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  Juri
11 days ago

Au contraire.
shitlib
femcnut
SJW
fudgepacker
butt blaster
canoe licker
carpet muncher
etc

Reynard
Reynard
Member
Reply to  thezman
11 days ago

Calling our corporate masters communist is as rational as calling the leprechauns

Well Z, our current masters are usually quite short, are experts of trickery and by God do they love that pot of shekl–erm, gold! Maybe Leprechauns is a good term for them afterall!

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Whiskey
Whiskey
Reply to  thezman
11 days ago

China CCP Inc? Aren’t our corporate masters all Jack Ma? Seems Communism is very compatible with corporations. Wal Mart and Apple are at this point owned one way or another by China CCP inc.
It’s a good label. No one likes traitors allied with a nasty foreign power that can’t even make quality goods.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  thezman
8 days ago

I know enough about politics that “Communist” regimes, at least USSR and later China, deviated wildly from the ideals, they were anything but Communist in practice. Sort of like comparing the Christianity propounded in the Gospels to what followed in execution.

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Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Juri
11 days ago

Because this isn’t communism.

Some Guy
Some Guy
Reply to  Juri
11 days ago

Boomercon bromides like calling people they don’t like a communist is a waste of time. Google, a company nearly worth a trillion dollars, openly embraces those who call themselves communists. It’s one of those words now that works against you using it by default.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Juri
11 days ago

I prefer nerds. That’s basically all they are.

It’s revenge of the nerds over the jocks.

Last edited 11 days ago by Paintersforms
Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Paintersforms
11 days ago

When I was young (and foolish) I liked that movie. Missed the blatant propaganda back then.

B125
B125
Reply to  Paintersforms
11 days ago

Cucks and Karen’s hate that they aren’t respected as much as dominant white males. People at work only talk and listen to Karen because they have to. Chad doesn’t need to say or do anything to prove himself because people already know who’s in charge.

Karen thinks that cramming more words into the meeting will make people respect her. But it doesn’t and never will – because these people are ignorant of basic human biology.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  B125
10 days ago

They’re definitely lacking something.

Montefrío
Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
10 days ago

And that’s why the USA is becoming a Nerd World country. I live in a Third World country and far prefer it to a Nerd World country.

Last edited 10 days ago by Montefrio
KGB
KGB
Reply to  Juri
11 days ago

I agree with those pointing out that “communist” is hackneyed and even a badge of honor with many, but the point remains that we need a continually evolving lexicon of insults and terms of derision. DESTROYING them with FACTS and REASON is a fool’s errand. They’re middling intellects, mediocrities of the highest order, who fancy themselves the best and the brightest. Every time you laugh at their pretensions, it cuts to the bone and puts them on the defensive. Every term that we use to tar them, like NPC, should be instantly recognizable as shining a spotlight on their shortcomings.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  KGB
10 days ago

To add one thought, the reason NPC is more effective than commie, is that former pulls them out from the herd, paints them as an outsider, which they can’t stand. Calling them a commie allows them to believe they’re part of a team, which is reassuring to them. The insult has to be very personal.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Juri
10 days ago

Decrying “communism” is to be trapped in a 20th century paradigm. Communism is based on economics. Reality is based on racial tribalism.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
11 days ago

The rest of the world, particularly Europe, has noticed the United States has descended into totalitarian madness. This is a problem for the Empire, which has tried to import the same brand of anarcho-corporatism, for want of a better word, to the rest of the world. Chancellor Merkel’s muted criticism of the censorship of President Trump is something we never would have seen ten years ago. A name for the present regime will arrive. You will know it when there is an all-out campaign to suppress the label. The Woke/Anti-White insanity is a religion promoted as an opium of the… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  thezman
11 days ago

The word has to have a reference to “tech”

and one of the qualities of it that I see is just how lazy it all is. No one has to work hard to ruin someone. Push a button, send an email.

a video game quality to it where you can ruin someone in real life like killing them in an online shooter

Gobstopper
Gobstopper
Reply to  Falcone
11 days ago

Good point about tech. This type of technology is truly unique in history. While there are of course no new sins or a new moral system or new human nature, there are new things that allow for our human nature to run amok. The internet, and like you say, video game quality to ruining peoples lives.
Gossiping and character defamation could never have happened like this in the age of newspapers and letters. The speed, the anonymity…

i think you’re right, tech must be in there somewhere…

Alex
Alex
Reply to  Falcone
11 days ago

“Tech Fascism” has a good ring to it, and explains who’s driving much of this.

Ripple
Ripple
Reply to  Alex
10 days ago

Techno-fascism has an even better ring.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  Falcone
10 days ago

Distechnia.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  thezman
11 days ago

Ha.

I’m not even certain that fits because “liberal” implies some beliefs antithetical to the present system. But even if it could have been shoehorned to work, yeah, that grifter already had ruined the term. Incidentally, I read he plagiarized much of his material from the Claremont Institute (I think), which is irrelevant in a way but quite funny.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Jack Dobson
11 days ago

Addition: In the irony of ironies, the LIBERAL FASCISM author has globbed onto the movement he described.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  thezman
11 days ago

Edit: hadn’t read further, “Corporate authoritarianism” is even better.

We need bumper stickers! No explanation needed, meme darts stick and seep in.

Johnny
Reply to  thezman
10 days ago

Referring to Jonah Goldberg and his book??

Norham Foul
Norham Foul
Reply to  thezman
10 days ago

I will add, I have a very close relationship with a woman (well she sleeps with me) who works at a large corporation that builds undersea fiber links. Two companies buying intercontinental being built now are Google and Facebook, They are not just renting wavelengths but buying the entire active cable. One of the cool features in these modern-day links is the ability to not just recreate and amplify optical data but to have switches built into the undersea splitter nodes. They can shut-off or slow down the high-speed (as opposed to satellite data links) internet connectivity between whole continents.… Read more »

Black Flag
Black Flag
Reply to  thezman
10 days ago

Cryptocorporate Totalitarianism. Communism is almost completely non-applicable because the major corporations own the gumperment and its feckless members rather than the other way around. We’ve officially hit all the tenets of totalitarianism. The political class always recites the script about hating the big corps and “making them pay their fair share” etc., but its all puppetry. And while the love affair between big tech and big gov is no secret, the continual usurpation on our basic freedoms and privacy takes place most effectively in the shadows of the webverse. Then, when the big tech corps want to avoid a temporary… Read more »

Vegetius
Vegetius
Reply to  thezman
10 days ago

Globalism

It’s short, elastic, and already out there.

We can hammer out a clear definition after we win.

Or not.

Charles St. Charles
Charles St. Charles
Reply to  thezman
10 days ago

“Oligarchy”, anyone? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_law_of_oligarchy According to Michels, all organizations eventually come to be run by a “leadership class”, who often function as paid administrators, executives, spokespersons or political strategists for the organization. Far from being “servants of the masses”, Michels argues this “leadership class,” rather than the organization’s membership, will inevitably grow to dominate the organization’s power structures. By controlling who has access to information, those in power can centralize their power successfully, often with little accountability, due to the apathy, indifference and non-participation most rank-and-file members have in relation to their organization’s decision-making processes. Michels argues that democratic attempts to hold leadership positions accountable are prone to fail, since with power comes the ability… Read more »

Last edited 10 days ago by Charles St. Charles
Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  thezman
10 days ago

Anti-white fascism.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Jack Dobson
11 days ago

The word we may be looking for is Negroism

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Falcone
11 days ago

That’s just a tool, the religious sedative.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Falcone
11 days ago

Negritude

ronehjr
ronehjr
Reply to  Falcone
11 days ago

Judeo/Negroism.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Jack Dobson
11 days ago

No matter what is settled on as a ‘proper’ name at the end of the day there is one thing it is 100% as it has all the hallmarks of one. It is a Theocracy.

The Islamic Republic of Iran most resembles the current leftist incarnation of the US government. Instead of Allah you simply swap Diversity and the rest of oppressive regimes edicts & customs fall into place neatly. Further, the dissenters are going to start getting treatment that is closer & closer in nature to what you’d see in a place like that.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Jack Dobson
11 days ago

“anarcho-corporatism”!

By gum, I can’t stand the foggy abstract terms our enemies invented. People end up sounding like woke feminist undergrads arguing such vague idiocies as “socialism vs capitalism”.

Give me terms that describe the means and method, such as ‘anarcho-corporatism.’

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Wkathman
Wkathman
Reply to  Jack Dobson
10 days ago

Corporate Maoism.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
11 days ago

We will not see true fascism or communism from either the politicos or the corporations. They may try, but they can only fail. Those people are so pathetic that real commies would purge cretins like Biden and Pelosi. The fascists would send them straight to the lime pits or the ovens.
I think these guys are best defined by CH as “shitlibs”. They are morons that temporarily have the field. They’ll either break the country up, or they’ll be overthrown by the real commies, fascists… or Americans.

Liberty Mike
Member
Reply to  thezman
11 days ago

“the state took it upon themselves to speak for labor.”

Labor, say hello to your new spokesman, Marty Walsh.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  thezman
11 days ago

Not a particularly easy book to find in actual print, I might add. That’s usually a tell for “naughty think”.
(Hard to find and no kindle version is heretical think)

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  thezman
11 days ago

I misspoke – I am referring to the players themselves. I simply cannot see a crone like pelosi, or a potato like Biden having the steel it would take to affect such changes. Nor flimps like Zuckerface or Dorsey.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Glenfilthie
10 days ago

They don’t need steel, their hatred of BadWhites is more than sufficient. They will send you or any BadWhite neighbor to camps or the guillotine on a whim, because life is entirely digital and anything which upsets their sense of ‘specialness’ must be banished. Give the eternally resentful nerds and fat cat ladies and browns/blacks/yellows trappings of power and office and high tech means to enforce their will, and it’s as simple as Wonderland’s Queen – “Off with their heads.”

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  3g4me
10 days ago

Again… if they don’t have the steel themselves, they have to get it elsewhere. They’ve been crapping all over the police and military for five decades… I can’t see them going all in with their war on America… but we’ll see I guess.

NoOneImportant
NoOneImportant
Reply to  thezman
11 days ago

The current regime lacks fundamental characteristics that make fascism a misleading descriptor. Most notably, fascism was nationalist movement mean to serve a specific race/ethnicity. The current regime denies the concept of race/ethnicity (but comically, not “racism”). They are dead set on marginalizing the founding stock of the country. Mass immigration was the exact opposite of fascist policy. Second, the fascist regimes of the last century used government power to improve the lot of the common man. Many progressives in the US were initially supportive of the fascist regimes — and back then the progressive movement was focused on the well… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  NoOneImportant
11 days ago

The current regime denies the concept of race/ethnicity (but comically, not “racism”).

Putting aside the fact that the Left has no issue with contradiction, their logic, as I understand goes:

  1. There is no such thing as race/ethnicity, but
  2. Race/ethnicity can be, and is, socially constructed; therefore
  3. One can be racist by adhering to and acting upon socially constructed concepts of race/ethnicity.
Edgy Civnat
Edgy Civnat
Reply to  c matt
10 days ago

They assume that white people are the ones who have manufactured and sustained a white identity.
How do you know the race of the people who first began white identity?
If your job is to represent the “other”, to whom are you representing?

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  c matt
8 days ago

(Corllary) 4 You can accuse or denounce someone as a racist whenever it is expedient to do so, to advance your side’s agenda.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  NoOneImportant
8 days ago

A more fundamental question: All the social changes point to a deterioration, a weakening of the country (ours or others). Is this all actually part of an evil long range plan? Perhaps. If so, who is most likely to benefit? If it’s actually just rot caused (mostly) by unintended consequences of good intentions, similarly: What opportunistic outside powers are likely to mop up in the end?

Alex
Alex
Reply to  thezman
11 days ago

Are you referring to “Fascism: The Career of a Concept” Z?

Falcone
Falcone
11 days ago

Whatever the word is, what we have is lazy.

you can sit on your butt playing with yourself and push a computer key to ruin someone’s life.

wonder what would happen if these people actually had to exert themselves

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Falcone
11 days ago

We may see.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Jack Dobson
11 days ago

I’ve seen many millennials in action. the totalitarian thing we are living through has a bug zapper quality to it. If they can’t zap away their enemies in a millisecond, they lose interest notice it too with the language. When they say so and so “destroys” so and so, it’s never a direct confrontation where someone wins an debate or argument or gets in the best put down leaving the other guy embarrassed. It’s always one guy saying something by himself and to himself and his followers about someone else and that someone else is nowhere to be found. very… Read more »

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Falcone
11 days ago

> the totalitarian thing we are living through has a bug zapper quality to it. If they can’t zap away their enemies in a millisecond, they lose interest
Vox Day noticed this in his book All SJWs Lie. For all his other faults, noticed that the woke mob was rapid in mobilization but slowed down in enthusiasm rapidly without easy victories.
The woke institutions are much more patient, but standing firm and refusing to apologize may at least save your own hide.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Falcone
11 days ago

I observed this, too, when statues were toppled last year and they gathered around them, blankly staring, and moved on to new things within minutes. The loss of art and history never even had time to register.

Severian
Reply to  Falcone
11 days ago

That’s going to be a major saving grace for us. I have lots of experience with college kids. To say they have the attention span of goldfish is an insult to goldfish, who are chess grand masters by comparison. I’m not saying everything’s going to be fine — everything is going to be shit, for a long time — but just keeping your head down lets you duck a lot, because they’re as lazy as they are arrogant.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Severian
11 days ago

People with short attention spans are also very easy to manipulate. If we can get a few people of our people with prestige and push a few good memes, their views will change to the point that they will forget about their shitlib views from just a few months ago.
Pathetic way to life a life, but we’re not the cause of it.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Chet Rollins
11 days ago

True. Social media has really shortened attention spans, I think. The immediate gratification of meaningless “likes,” and moving on to get something else “liked,” is being played out off line now.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Falcone
11 days ago

I’ve made that point many times. Our rulers are complete wimps compared to fascists, communists and dictators of the past. Those guys were willing to get their hands very dirty – and possibly lose their lives – to achieve and retain power. This group is unwilling to do either.

The slightest on-the-ground push back and these guys fold.

B125
B125
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
11 days ago

Yeah their worst fear is death, as I mentioned yesterday.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  B125
10 days ago

That’s always the worst fear of Godless people.

Chester White
Chester White
Reply to  B125
10 days ago

Hence the Covid response. Nothing is worse than death to these people. Patrick Henry they ain’t.

Anon
Anon
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
10 days ago

I teach these people and they are soft. They have lots of hard men to fight for them as long as the money flows. But the top echelon ivy league kids will not be able to deal w any real violence. Its not like i am hard as nails but i boxed and i know that only a few of the athletes could take a punch.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Falcone
10 days ago

Turn off their electricity and we will see how little power they really have.
Really their strength is based on not sheer force of numbers or legions of hard men but on having control of communications. If they’re server farms go dark and the cell towers get no juice they become impotent,. Their few enforcers then become isolated and easily dealt with.

H I
H I
11 days ago

Fakeandgayism. Globohomo. Rainbow prison. Don’t sound good enough to stick, unfortunately, but we’ll find something.

The Babe
The Babe
Reply to  H I
11 days ago

Globohomo really is the best single word to capture the malignancy of their thing.

But respectable historians might be too squeamish to use it.

I did find it funny to hear the term, though, in a book review by one of the more respectable and genteel right-wing book reviewers, Charles of the Worthy House:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/6WMrIpRBCHBG/

Gobstopper
Gobstopper
Reply to  H I
11 days ago

I never got the “globohomo” thing. People have told me its about how coorporations see the homosexual as the perfect person, worker adn consumer because they have no family possibility. Is that what the term means?

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Gobstopper
11 days ago

It’s from “globalized” and “homogenized”. Culture, laws, populations…

H I
H I
Reply to  Gobstopper
11 days ago

Picture and American embassy flying the rainbow flag in some Third World shithole. It’s the duty of the American empire to spread homosexuality to the further reaches of the globe, including Afghanistan.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  H I
11 days ago

it doesn’t seem to work, afghani are numero uno at raping swedish women.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  H I
10 days ago

I’ve seen a Hillary-esque US ambassador puff her chest out and proudly introduce a vibrant deputy chief of mission (#2 in the embassy) and his white, Swiss husband in a developing Islamic country.

The local VIPs were not amused.

The happy couple were the gay BFFs of a few dozen ambassadors’ wives.

Our tax dollars at work.

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KGB
KGB
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
10 days ago

Happy couple, my ass. Six, two, and even they were each partaking of the locals.

Ripple
Ripple
Reply to  H I
10 days ago

Wait a sec, aren’t Afghani men known for keeping young boys as dancing sex slaves?

oven enthusiast
oven enthusiast
Reply to  Gobstopper
11 days ago

HOMOgenized corporate culture that happens to be super gay as well.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  oven enthusiast
10 days ago

I’ve always felt that both meanings of the second half serve the term simultaneously and equally well.

Johnny o' the Lake
Johnny o' the Lake
11 days ago

Debate about political semantics is, in my experience, a black hole. A lot goes in, and no light comes out.

Instead of a forced repurposing of old words which carry many and contradictory old connotations, I just use “left-wing totalitarianism” for their thing.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Johnny o' the Lake
11 days ago

My thoughts exactly, but much better said.

However, their immediate reaction when any term is used, is an explosive “don’t label me!!”

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Alzaebo
10 days ago

“Then don’t act like the label.”

Marko
Marko
11 days ago

Any thoughts on Curtis Yarvin’s latest screeds on power? His last post goes on about oligarchic power (i.e. the power structure in the US) and spontaneous coordination, and applies his base thesis that the madness we’re seeing is not being wielded by any particular person or group, but is an organic formation borne by predatory human instincts, or something. Therefore the likes of Jamie Dimon are not commanding corporate fascism, rather are subservient to the whims of the predatory ether. I’m still trying to wrap my head around this Talmudry.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Marko
11 days ago

I don’t trust Yarvin.

acetone
Member
Reply to  Marko
10 days ago

Link to Yarvin’s article?

I generally like Yarvin. He has his own biases of course, but someone on our side that is willing to put ideas into the public is doing us a service. Don’t let prefect be the enemy of good.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Marko
10 days ago

OK, I read it. As expected, it’s garbage.

acetone
Member
Reply to  Marko
10 days ago

I’m not 100% sure I agree with Yavin, but I think his perspective on oligarchic power might make sense. I read the article, and this is my TLDR: founders don’t control the ideology of their companies. Rather they are controlled by the press or “cathedral”. There is no easy way to regulate this now (i.e., Section 230 repeal doesn’t offer clear solution). Yarvin has worked in tech and lived in the Bay Area for a long time, so when he talks about how tech companies operate I tend to think he might be right. His article discusses oligarchs/tech in the… Read more »

usNthem
usNthem
11 days ago

It’s pretty easy to get blackpilled with all this stuff. When you realize the state, corpacracy, academia, media etc., is one yuge hive minded blob that won’t accept any dissent, period. There’s virtually no place to turn – sure, we can have our own little communities, for now. But it’s like being on a life raft in a turbulent sea of madness. It’s going to take something significant to upend this apple cart – I just hope it’s a lot sooner than later. With the left going balls to the wall, it may very well be.

Gobstopper
Gobstopper
Reply to  usNthem
11 days ago

one yuge hive minded blob

Its true, its like a mind virus, with common symptoms. People catch it, and can’t let it go.

Which is why it can almost be compared to a religion, or a cult.

Moe Noname
Moe Noname
11 days ago

Start small. Asking people with the attention span of a hummingbird to “read this book/ essay” or “watch this podcast” is a bridge to far. Try it on your basset hound. The results will be the same. Chilling and grilling is a real thing: people want to be left alone. Pointing out that they live in a one party dictatorship is not REAL to them. They have always voted and they think having a chance to vote again in the next election is the solution. Drop small hints for those who can be made aware, talk about the weather or… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Moe Noname
11 days ago

chilling and grilling is the domain of people with a 110 IQ

There are going to be way more of them than people like us. It takes quite a bit of brain power to see through the charade. Also takes intellectual courage, but you have to at least have an intellect. These other people simply don’t have the juice.

People will find their role when the time comes, I have to think. Always seems to be the case.

Horace
Horace
Reply to  Falcone
10 days ago

“People will find their role when the time comes, …”

This is good sense, not to stress because so many people cannot understand what is happening around them. It has always been thus. All empires die. We are not the first people to find ourselves as leaves in the hurricane of a collapsing society. I have no doubt it was the same for our predecessors.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Horace
10 days ago

All empires die. We are not the first people to find ourselves as leaves in the hurricane of a collapsing society. 
when an empire dies, it’s usually replaced by another piece of shit empire. There’s never a period of pleb happiness and freedom:
babylon/persia, byzantine/ottoman, tsarist/soviet
others just change hq or name:
rome/constantinopole, habsburg/austro-hungarian, london/washington
others get conquered:
aztec/spanish, mughal/british, muslims/mongols

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c matt
c matt
Reply to  Moe Noname
11 days ago

They have always voted and they think having a chance to vote again in the next election is the solution If nothing else, I am hopeful that the current election shenanigans will disabuse at least a fair number of them of this delusion. Perhaps that is the best thing the Trump presidency has done for this country. 110 IQ is more than enough to grasp the current farce that is this country. I think it has more to do with wishful thinking that it will all turn out OK in the end rather than an actual lack of sufficient mental… Read more »

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CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  c matt
10 days ago

Yes, but 110 or above includes 25% of the population? Even if all were willing, that’s a lot of clueless people to overcome in the remaining 75%.

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Grumpy Cat
Grumpy Cat
11 days ago

“You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you.” “Divide and conquer.” They are coming after us with a vengeance, that much is clear. It’s become very easy on their part, why? Because we are not unified. We may be “armed to the teeth” but until we use those arms in a unified way as any army would, we are atomized and when the Stasi show up at our doors at 3 AM, not even your neighbor will be able to come to your aid. The Left is counting on this. Until we have a Hannibal,… Read more »

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Sandmich
Reply to  Grumpy Cat
11 days ago

“A million people dropping nails in Amazon’s Food Dispensary parking lots will do more than a handful of armed soldiers”…or something like that.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Sandmich
10 days ago

Caltrops. Lots and lots of caltrops. Everywhere.

Gobstopper
Gobstopper
Reply to  Grumpy Cat
11 days ago

I’d like to think I’d go down shooting. I have no family, so what do I have to lose? That Solzehnisyn quote about individuals standing up to those raids, stuck with me. Those citizens didn’t have guns either.

He said if those police started thinking they might not live through their shift, they might start to drag their feet on rounding up their fellow Russians.

B125
B125
Reply to  Gobstopper
11 days ago

And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to… Read more »

B125
B125
Reply to  Gobstopper
11 days ago

Or, in Trump prole-speak:

What the hell do you have to lose?

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Gobstopper
10 days ago

Agree, but even better to band together with others in a White community – and report your woke neighbors for some thought or speech crime right before you move. All it takes is an accusation, on the neighborhood website or to the local gossip.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Grumpy Cat
10 days ago

We would play right into their hands if we did what you ask because our enforcement system is designed to prevent such men from rising in the first place. They got sloppy and missed Trump but the next man who tries to rally white Americans will get a bullet in the noggin real fast.

H I
H I
11 days ago

The essence of it is anti-white/anti-normalcy fascism, but we need a better name. It’s closer to fascism than classical communism because it’s racialized and because of the cooperation between corporation and state. But it’s not classical fascism because of its inversion of values. Satanic fascism perhaps, except Satan doesn’t have the same ring today as it used to.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  H I
11 days ago

Fascism requires a charismatic.leader. The corporate leaders were always to be subordinate to the big man. It’s manly in that way

what we have is sort of a non hierarchical bitchy petty and vindictive feminine vagina-ism that takes little effort

Severian
Reply to  Falcone
11 days ago

Another saving grace. Ever worked for a female boss? Even the most tyrannical queen bee wants meetings, endless meetings, that are total hen parties. Rule by a committee of menopausal cat ladies has never been tried, because no group in the history of the human race has been so stupid as to try it. Our “government” will soon be nothing more than a faculty meeting of the English Department at a third-rate junior college… and that’s GOOD, comrades.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Severian
11 days ago

I have a similar sense of things The feminine nature of it all and their inability to keep a focus on anything for too long is why I, unlike many here, don’t take this “totalitarianism” that seriously. I think it is very serious if you get caught in the crosshairs, sure, but what I mean is more its long-term viability. And the minute a serious world event occurs, whatever it may be, all of it will be forgotten or either subordinated to its rightful place at the bottom of the totem pole. Not to mention that it is built on… Read more »