Meat Man Versus Weed Man

Often, the natural confluence of events results in something so elegant or complex that people see the hand of design behind the result. Even though the odds of there being a secret conspiracy or master chess player behind the result are very low, that just seems better than the odds of chance getting the result. Most conspiracy theories rely on this sort of logic. The official explanations seem so unlikely that they must be part of some conspiracy to shield the truth from the public.

A good example of this is the last election. No sitting president has seen a double digit increase in his vote, but still lose. In fact, no one has been able to find an example like this in other elected offices. That’s how rare it is. This once in forever thing could be accepted in isolation, but it is just one of such things. There are so many unexplained anomalies that people are naturally skeptical. The invisible hand of design, even without hard proof, seems like the more likely explanation.

We may be seeing something similar happen with food. All of a sudden, we are being bombarded with agit-prop in favor of eating bugs and plant-based proteins, rather than eating beef and chicken. Beef seems to be the primary target, but that could simply be the result of the Left’s long war against cows. The Left believes cows are part of a secret conspiracy against Gaia to poison the atmosphere. The “cow fart” conspiracy is as real to them as the ongoing Russian conspiracy.

A few years ago, the fast food chain Burger King introduced something called an “impossible burger” which is made from grass clippings. The claim was that it tasted just like their regular burgers but was made from plants. Why they did this was never asked or explained. Up to that point, the number of people saying, “Man, I could really go for a burger made from grass clippings right now” was zero. In fact, the number remains stubbornly pegged at zero. No one wants this.

Now, billion dollar companies make dumb decisions. History is full of ideas cooked up in corporate offices that turn out to be laughably stupid. Maybe this grass burger idea is just another example, like new Coke. The thing is though, they did not invent the grass burger or the idea of it. There are two companies pushing this idea. Impossible Products and Beyond Meat are producing fake meat products. It was the former who approached Burger King with the plant burger idea.

Now, it is important to note here that these new fake meat products do not taste like meat as is claimed. They taste like what people who have never tasted meat think meat tastes like to humans. The fake beef has the mouth-feel of oatmeal. It is a weird sort of grainy slime when you eat it. It is not horrible and if you were starving you would probably eat it, but cannibalism would start to look appealing. Like the previous attempts to create fake meat, this new stuff is not very good.

The point is the companies pushing this do not have a better mousetrap. They are not even making that claim. In fact, they make it clear that their products are not better than what they seek to replace. In their public demonstrations they concede that it is, at best, a close facsimile. Instead, they claim their products are morally superior. You see, the burger made from grass clippings and dried leaves pleases Gaia. She will therefore reward the grass eaters and punish the meat eaters.

That is insane, but these products have the backing of the oligarchs. Both of these companies are supported financially by rich people. The troubled Bill Gates is behind the Impossible Burger scheme. He is the guy trying to blot out the sun because he thinks it is part of the cow conspiracy. Other oligarchs are rushing to get in on the fake meat racket as well. All of a sudden, the rich are sure real meat will go the way of the buggy whip and be replaced by bugs and grass clippings.

The question is, why? The fact is there is no market for fake meat. Dozens of efforts to create one, including the current fake burger idea, have flopped. The fact is the public is not going to voluntarily start eating bugs and grass clippings just because the climate loons say Gaia commands it. If the choice is between a real burger and the artificial alternative, people choose the real burger. In other words, there is no business opportunity here that the oligarchs are trying to exploit.

That is, unless the government plans to ban meat. Despite the organized media campaign by the regime to claim otherwise, the regime is plotting to ban meat. They will not do it outright, but instead regulate it out of existence. In the name of climate change, they will make the sale and production of meat products increasingly expensive. This is why the billionaires all see fake meat as an opportunity. It is also why recipe sites are now removing meat recipes from their websites.

In one respect, the highly coordinated media campaign to deny the Biden war on burgers is correct. There is no design behind this. What is driving it is the weird new religion taking hold of the American ruling elite. They really believe that Gaia is angry with us and will unleash her wrath unless we repent. Of course, they mean repent in that you will commit the act of contrition and they will get salvation. They also get to keep eating meat while you dine on spiders and dandelions.

The war on meat is not a conspiracy. It is an example of the Hoffer line about mass movements in America. They become a business, a racket, or a corporation. In this case, the Gaia worship sweeping the ruling class is becoming a business. These grass and twig burger companies are the first wave of companies hoping to capitalize on the artificially created market for fake food. They see the madness in the eyes of their peers and immediately think about how to profit from it.

Of course, all big business in America depends on government. These fake meat companies and the billionaire sponsor will lobby the state to create legislation favorable to them and harmful to their opponents. The political rackets will get a chance to skim some off this new business, as long as the play ball with fake meat. All of a sudden, real meat has to increase the bribes to counter fake meat. The war on meat is just another manifestation of the natural corruption in liberal democracy.


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GrayCat
GrayCat
3 years ago

It’s not about meat vs. bugs or veggies. It’s about who gets to be as God, knowing good and evil, and having the power of life and death over other men. What is this “COVID-19” “virus” all about? (Even the CDC admits there’s no such real thing; they admit no one in the world has isolated such a virus, ever, and all the tests and syringe experimental therapies [“vaccines”] are based on that fact: there are only artificially developed and strung man-made bits of mRNA, spike proteins that will splice themselves into the DNA in our cells and force them… Read more »

Wyotana
Wyotana
3 years ago

The elite religion is not pro-earth or pro animal or pro-nature. It is anti-human. They don’t worship Gaia. They worship Baal. The difference is important. It’s not a nature-worship cult that, left intact, will just happen to impoverish and kill millions of people. It’s a man-hating cult that will just happen to destroy the earth. It is a conspiracy. They do want you dead. The people who do these things are not primarily interested in money for money’s sake, though they will be quite happy to make a few trillion off of killing a few billion. Bill Gates most assuredly… Read more »

Kevin Beck
3 years ago

I think it’s also a part of a grand plan to make people everywhere physically weaker, so they would be less able to resist what governments of the world are attempting to inflict upon them.

Camperfixer
Camperfixer
3 years ago

Not only is this spot on and brilliantly crafter, it is hilariously accurate…but NOT funny in a real world sense as what you point out has become the new religion. The Covid Crap is one part of the new religion doctrine.

Phoenix
Phoenix
3 years ago

A lot of obvious contradictions ans silly statements in this piece..

Mike
Mike
Reply to  Phoenix
3 years ago

If they are so obvious why did you not point one out ,you should have told everyone to follow “the science “ and screamed racism then you would really have a good argument

imbroglio
imbroglio
3 years ago

Interesting. The ranchers and farmers see their American market dry up even as demand for meat products increases in China, India and other rising nations. The export trade looks good. Will our rulers prohibit it? Wil, our new Asian overlords permit our ruling class to prohibit it? Maybe the CCCP and Gates will work out a deal: Gates continues to buy up American farmland for beef and chicken export to China in return for continued access to Chinese tech markets with his crappy software and his new Linked In toy.
Voila, another semi-credible conspiracy theory!

Ernie Hopkins
Ernie Hopkins
Reply to  imbroglio
3 years ago

The states of Colorado and Oregon have banned livestock production. Amish are becoming refugees in droves.

Five Bells Watch
Five Bells Watch
3 years ago

“The Left believes cows are part of a secret conspiracy against Gaia to poison the atmosphere. The “cow fart” conspiracy is as real to them as the ongoing Russian conspiracy.” Show me a voluntary vegetarian, and I’ll show you someone who’s never experienced true hunger and privation. One of my vet relatives — from a bad, bad, bad I say! place — stayed with us for a few weeks when I was young, and he told me all about his experiences fighting in the East. He escaped captivity and spent months sneaking westward, towards his home. He was by profession… Read more »

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Five Bells Watch
3 years ago

“…Show me a voluntary vegetarian…”

Uh, given it’s a luxury lifestyle, I think the impetus is upon *you* to find an involuntary one.

slobotnavich '43
Reply to  Five Bells Watch
3 years ago

We should recycle methane (cow farts) by inserting sterilized plastic or stainless steel tubes into the anuses of the gaseous cows, after which we could use the captured fart-gas for heating, cooking, or as a motor-fuel. A bit of far-seeing out of-the-box thinking is all that’s required.

LONE RANGER
Reply to  Five Bells Watch
3 years ago

Hi I’m one of the few remaining who can still remember the ride in the boxcar at wars end. I was 10 years old then .10 days with 30 people on one side in the wagon and a pile of stuff on the other side. No food ,no water, no toilet .One old person died, Body had to be left behind when the train stopped . Me and mother often talked about those events ,later in life .Father never came back from the east ,Where is his grave??? We escaped and survived ,many did not, .At least we did not… Read more »

nailheadtom
nailheadtom
3 years ago
Zorost
Zorost
3 years ago

“There is no conspiracy, it’s just a group of powerful people who just happen to do things that only make sense if they planned it so as to increase their power in society.”

Don’t you have a buddy in the Mossad?

ronehjr
ronehjr
Reply to  Zorost
3 years ago

I think the best strategy is to tiptoe around the name of this group, and call any who name this group some form of insane.

JohnSmith
JohnSmith
3 years ago

The very concept of an “oligarchy” implies an ability to manage the society, at least at the macro level. Their interlocking network of banks, corporations, foundations, think tanks, universities, government agencies and various NGOs is the mechanism of control. Call it conspiracy, or just call it Corporatism. One of the key nodes in that network is the New York Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), founded in 1921, which helps to coordinate the “narrative” and provides a pre-screened talent pool to fill leadership posts in all of those organizations on behalf of the oligarchy. Half of Biden’s cabinet are CFR members.… Read more »

American Citizen 2.0
American Citizen 2.0
Reply to  JohnSmith
3 years ago

I think the Soros funded District Attorney’s/Prosecutors are a more odious problem than the CFR on this particular topic of the Oligarchy not being able to control the masses they rule over. At least in my megacity of Diverse Rainbow Joy, they have eliminated bail, stopped pro-actively looking for criminal activity, and stopped enforcing shoplifting violations of any kind as long as the stolen property isn’t worth more than $1000. You can literally walk right into a Target store, punch an employee in the face and walk out with a 50″ tv for free and even if the police responded,… Read more »

Rando
Reply to  American Citizen 2.0
3 years ago

Oh, they haven’t given up trying to control things. No. They still want to control all the normal people. It’s just that they let the criminal diversity run free to cow us into submission. If we fight back they send the cops to arrest us, not our tormentors.

JohnSmith
JohnSmith
Reply to  American Citizen 2.0
3 years ago

Note that George Soros is a former CFR director, and his son Jonathan who runs the Soros Foundation is a CFR member. They never give up, and they play both ends against the middle.

miforest
Member
Reply to  JohnSmith
3 years ago

our future: The basic salary for a worker at the Zhengzhou facility is 2,100 yuan (US$314) per month, falling to around 1,500 yuan after tax, pensions and other mandatory deductions. The average salary for a worker in the city of Zhengzhou in 2018 was 6,929 yuan (US$1,035) per month. more details here. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/inside-the-largest-iphone-factory-in-the-world-slashed-salaries-slumping-fortunes/RF5HJGSSLHHQGYQDWHTHXXZETU/ you left out the political arm of the whole thing , The global economic forum . in 2030 you’ll own nothing and you will be happy. look , They guys want a return to the feudal system where ALL the land was owned by nobles(bankers) and the… Read more »

JohnSmith
JohnSmith
Reply to  miforest
3 years ago

That’s the “World Economic Forum” (WEF), led by Klaus Schwab. WEF trustees include US billionaires Larry Fink (BlackRock), David Rubenstein (Carlyle) and Marc Benioff (Salesforce). All are CFR members. Fink and Rubenstein are CFR directors. Benioff owns Time magazine.

miforest
Member
Reply to  JohnSmith
3 years ago

yes john, you are correct , but everyone know who that is and the bots don’t pick it up .

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  miforest
3 years ago

The feudal system you describe was true in Russia and the later part of Britian, only after the dissolution of the monasteries. Uncontrolled capitalism *is* what you describe as feudal.

KL
KL
Reply to  JohnSmith
3 years ago

I think both the environmental movement and the sexual revolution are partially attempts to legitimize the decline in living standards since the start of the neoliberal era. E. Michael Jones has discussed attempts by the Rockefellers to get the Catholic Church to change its position on contraception. A trad Catholic dad with 5 kids and a stay at home wife knows that the standard of living for the average American has collapsed since the 70s. A yuppie bachelor in a studio apartment can pretend that he is middle class and that things have improved because video games have better graphics.… Read more »

James J O'Meara
James J O'Meara
3 years ago

Products that aren’t better taste-wise, but only virtue-wise, have been around for a long time. Examples are matzoh (bread without yeast), steaks drained of “blood” and cooked to a crisp, jellied fish, and “kosher” wines. Do you notice a pattern?

BTW, ask an observant Jew, or just a knowledgeable one, what on Earth could make a wine “kosher”. He’ll likely say he doesn’t know, but an honest answer might surprise you.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  James J O'Meara
3 years ago

That’s the kosher question.

American Citizen 2.0
American Citizen 2.0
Reply to  James J O'Meara
3 years ago

I am not of the tribe but I have had a lot of interaction with them and I can tell you right now that what makes something Kosher is that they have this guy who runs their local hustles who they call a “rabbi” who goes to the factory where the wine is produced and officially announces that it is in fact Kosher. Now, the reason WHY he will make that announcement is usually a sincere searching of the word of god about such topics as how the electrical system was installed by union labor following strict building codes and… Read more »

DJ3Way
DJ3Way
3 years ago

I think it’s a pump n dump stock thing but our overlords are evil and they do want us to eat the bugs and live in the pod so I don’t dismiss your theory either

(as a side note, I’ve mentioned before I do taxes and things like that. A client we have who runs a couple of A&W’s sold about 200 of these burgers over the course of a year, over 3 locations. That’s literally nothing. Nobody eats these things and nobody wants them.)

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
3 years ago

The same can be said for car engines. They’re now designed first to please mother earth goddess and then for function. Will any of these four cylinder turbo engines on larger vehicles make it to 80,000 miles without a $5K engine overhaul? I’m just not sold on them.

Good ol' Rebel
Good ol' Rebel
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

$5k? More like 50k. Nah, these are more disposable than a Mach 3 razor cartridge.

Owlman
Owlman
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

You are right on the money there. Many grown men likely do not even know their cars are powered by “interference” engines. That means if the timing belt breaks, or timing chain slips a couple of teeth, their valves and pistons will have a rather unfortunate meeting and “lock up” the engine. Short version: you engine becomes a boat anchor. Cost: Typically in the $8-$10,000 range if out of warranty. Your old-fashioned American V8 has a timing chain too. However, as a non interference design, if it were to snap … you’d need another $20.00 chain, and maby $1-200.00 in… Read more »

B125
B125
Reply to  Owlman
3 years ago

I drive an old piece of shit lol. I could afford better but it’s a bad investment, it’s easy to fix, and there’s almost no depreciation costs. The vibrant drivers have a knack of dinging you and driving off. Happens to me alot. I don’t care. I like that it’s low tech, I can fix everything, and it doesn’t have all this high tech stuff tracking you non stop.

miforest
Member
Reply to  Owlman
3 years ago

in the near future we will not be allowed cars. you will live in a cubicle and rid your nordic trac of pelaton bike with hoties in exotic locations on the screen replacing actually going outside.
if your lucky you will have a cute neighbor in the cell across from you that you can watch do the same thing.
https://www.tvcommercialad.com/watch/xm7R3hdiE4aeOTz

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Forever Templar
3 years ago

Just to add, They really took off last year as a safe way to cycle during the pandemic. But lol hooking up your $5000 Colnago to one. The ones that utilize any sort of VR just suck. VR sucks in general, but damn if you have the money to burn on a decent headset why would you want to salt that thing up with sweat?

Oldrider
Oldrider
Reply to  Owlman
3 years ago

I own two Subarus:
a 2003 with 134,000 miles, and a 2018 with 21,000.
Yes, they have interference engines, but if you do the recommended timing belt replacement (at 100k miles), the motor ain’t gonna blow up. It’s not uncommon to see these cars still going at 250k +.
Any yes, they used to blow head gaskets. That was fixed around 2003.

Mis(ter)Anthrope
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

Yeah, I can’t imagine that a 2.4 liter engine producing around 300 hp is built to last. I just put an LS3 engine in a 1985 K5 Blazer along with a rebuilt nv4500 5 speed manual transmission. Also rebuilt the suspension and the front end. I was lucky to find a K5 with a straight body and no rust for $6,000. Damn thing runs great. My total investment was around $20,000. It gets about 17 mpg. I love having that cast iron engine block. No it doesn’t go down the highway as smooth as a new SUV and doesn’t have… Read more »

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

Mine is at 90k going strong.

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3 years ago

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JR Wirth
JR Wirth
3 years ago

“Of course, all big business in America depends on government.” – This is like a line of malware code that makes libertarianism blue screen.

American Citizen 2.0
American Citizen 2.0
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

You win the internet today. That comment was both very evocative of something we all experience and hilariously true. Seems like we are in the historical equivalent of IT asking “did you turn it off and turn it back on again?”

Marko
Marko
3 years ago

Allow me to defend plant-based protein and eating bugs. While I don’t believe in outright banning meat, the meat industry is horrible and if you spent an hour in a sluice factory you’d be eating plant-based protein too. I understand the boomer urge to have his damn steakburger, but there is something perverse about all those fish chickens pigs and cows raised & slaughtered to feed 7 billion people at millions of restaurants. Why not just have meat available at the local grocery and at a price high enough to encourage only occasional grillling? Our ancestors did not eat chicken… Read more »

Lanky
Lanky
Reply to  Marko
3 years ago

A single cow is a tragedy. A million cows is a statistic. And I like statistics.

Streets n San
Streets n San
Reply to  Marko
3 years ago

My aunt had a working farm and I have watched terrified animals who were well aware of their imminent demise go to their cruel deaths. It is truly a horrible event to witness especially with pigs because they are highly intelligent and emotional creatures. They actually care about their porcine compatriots ahead of them in the queue.

However, none of these food animals would have existed but for us breeding them to suit our tastes and conveniences. Abandoned, most would be culled by nature or become pests we’d need to eradicate, like feral hogs.

Gunner Q
Reply to  Streets n San
3 years ago

“My aunt had a working farm and I have watched terrified animals who were well aware of their imminent demise go to their cruel deaths.”

Perhaps we could meet halfway and I’ll sell you some ratburger. Rodents will climb their own dead to be next into the trap.

Give me beef! Give me rat, squirrel or rabbit! But don’t give me plant matter and call it protein!

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Streets n San
3 years ago

I agree, but I find it odd how many of the same people who are disgusted by the slaughterhouse industry are pro-choice and donate to Planned Parenthood.

Strike Three
Strike Three
Reply to  Marko
3 years ago

If God didn’t want us to eat animals, then why did He make them out of meat?

Streets n San
Streets n San
Reply to  Strike Three
3 years ago

I’ve dived sea caves loaded with dozens of 15 foot white tip sharks in the Galapagos and solo backpacked Alaskan bear territory. Events like these impressed upon me that I’m made of meat, too.

miforest
Member
Reply to  Streets n San
3 years ago

bullshit keyboard warrior.

Strike Three
Strike Three
Reply to  miforest
3 years ago

“Whoa, whoa, whoa, Scotty!. Let’s take it down a notch!”

Streets n San
Streets n San
Reply to  miforest
3 years ago

Nope. I am an ordinary guy who has done extraordinary things. Seven continents, fifty states and more than a hundred countries. I’ve solo motorcycled across Africa starting off in Madagascar and I’ve skydived across Russia on an former Soviet aircraft they’d let me board and parachuted off the Swiss Alps. We weren’t able to have kids and we opted to do what we wanted. I have zero need to bullsh_t because I got the vids.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  miforest
3 years ago

Streets n San, do you want a medal or a chest on which to pin it?

I remember reading a.piece about two species of hominids who apparently lived at approximately the same time. From looking at their teeth, campsites and artifacts anthropologists were able to determine that one species subsisted solely upon plant material while the other sometimes ate meat. One species went extinct while the other evolved. I’ll let you guess which species was possibly in our lineage. Hint: humans are omnivores.

GetBackUp
GetBackUp
Reply to  Marko
3 years ago

You have been indoctrinated to the point of imbecility and have positioned yourself as an enemy of our people. Educate yourself.
Start here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxW-JKLeu1k.
Now check out the Allan Savory institute and the Regenerative Agriculture movement: https://www.ted.com/speakers/allan_savory

B125
B125
Reply to  Marko
3 years ago

And you would have died in the wild. Another midwit who “out’smarts'” his own biology and pushes aside his instinctual desire to eat meat. A bear doesn’t have the same foibles about killing and would bite your head off while you’re debating the morality of eating meat.

Owlman
Owlman
Reply to  Marko
3 years ago

So you’d have us eat bugs for our own good?

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Marko
3 years ago

Yeah, it’s not the meat at fast food joints making the poor fat.

It’s the fries and the bread. Carbs and insulin spikes out the ying-yang.

But potatoes and wheat (and sugar) are “plant based”, ergo must be healthy.

Mega-agriculture is trying to replace the wrong foods.

American Citizen 2.0
American Citizen 2.0
Reply to  ProZNoV
3 years ago

Friendly reminder that Beer is also completely vegetarian. So it must be good for you too.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Marko
3 years ago

Please allow me to make an alternative “rational” argument in the spirit of your comment. I believe that the demise of natural fitness selection has caused an alarming increase in DNA pollution, a pathology which seriously threatens the long term survival prospects of our species. One potential way to address this existential crisis is to conduct artificial culling of dysfunctional specimens so that their polluted DNA cannot continue to do damage to our collective genome via reproduction. I recognize that the selection criteria for artificial culling will likely be controversial, but perhaps we can agree that the megalomania gene is… Read more »

Dennis Roe
Dennis Roe
Reply to  Marko
3 years ago

Grill up some turdburgers for your fag friends, then go get your vax, do us all a favor.

Frip
Member
Reply to  Dennis Roe
3 years ago

“Grill up some turdburgers for your fag friends.”

LOL

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Frip
3 years ago

Next up on Twitter, faggot fake fights over the question, “Can turd burgers be considered shit sandwiches?”

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Marko
3 years ago

I’m still having a hard time giving a shit. Humane treatment on the way to slaughter and a humane slaughtering process are important, but anything beyond that is just emotional candy for people who do all they can to insulate themselves from the world.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Forever Templar
3 years ago

Agreed, reluctance to kill your dinner evaporates pretty quickly when you’re starving. Try it and see.

Carl B.
Carl B.
3 years ago

I spent the last few days at UNC Chapel Hill. I went to a Jimmy Johns for a meat sandwich. I was the only patron. The Indian curry restaurant next door was packed with young White females. I noticed the “Science Is Real” signs everywhere along with the BLM signs.

We are doomed.

Pratt
Pratt
Reply to  Carl B.
3 years ago

It’s also the females who, if they didn’t initiate it in the first place, are fully on board with the anti-meat stuff. With their different biology, they don’t crave it as much as us men do, so they are, once again narcissistically trying to impose their own preferences, in this case with regard to food, on everybody else. One more element in the ongoing feminization of society, as is the “moralism” itself with which all these changes are being pushed.

Note that this can easily interlock with the oligarch business interest model of explanation. The two are not mutually exclusive.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Carl B.
3 years ago

I once worked with an Indian (subcontinent type) who was happy to eat meat. When he went home he did the whole vegan thing but when he was here he loved meat. Had a special fondness for fried chicken and rare steak. He said he never got the whole vegan schtick but was respectful of his family’s beliefs – which he did not share at all. As soon as he arrived in the U.S. he tried different meats and pretty much loved all. Good man, good programmer and a damned good friend!

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Bill Mullins
3 years ago

If you’ve never tried Indian food, do yourself a favor and give it a whirl. It’s not all vegetarian, either. Lots of dishes–especially those from northern India–feature chicken, lamb, seafood and cheese (paneer).

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
Reply to  Carl B.
3 years ago

It’s a good thing to teach our sons. If the girl won’t order meat on one of the first dates, they should just move on.

Jack Boniface
Jack Boniface
Member
3 years ago

The rich also have been investing in another weed — marijuana. Your future is sitting in a corner, stoned, munching on an Impossible Burger, binge watching “Them.”

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Jack Boniface
3 years ago

Yeah the MJ industry’s rapid rise…not unlike the rapid rise in same-sex marriages being mainstreamed…is a bit suspicious. I wouldn’t doubt that our ruling class is trying to prime a certain segment of our populace to be stoned, watching their stories, eating bug protein bars, and on some kind of UBI. Though at this point, I don’t care if there’s a stoned and unemployed underclass. Ultimately it will remove the chaff and the industrious folk will inherit the future.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Marko
3 years ago

Doesn’t work that way. Bigger picture is that the ruling class is pulling up the ladder of upward mobility for the lower classes by: 1) Gutting the education system and replacing it with indoctrination. 2) Keeping the lower classes sedated with plentiful supply of drugs from Fentanyl to Pot. There is a reason why the Feds never cracked down on the Chinese for pumping our country full of synthetic opioids that are killing some 70,000 whites a year. 3) Importing foreign workers to take what well paying tech jobs that left in the U.S. Your industrious whites will be sitting… Read more »

B125
B125
Reply to  Rwc1963
3 years ago

Every year it gets harder and harder for an average white guy to hired at a Globocorp… Or just regular corp. There’s more and more foreigners competing and their diversity (equity) initiatives are also ramping up.

I keep telling white guys in their 20s that they need to have their things in order. You can’t bum around your 20s anymore like Boomers did and have a job waiting. Even that isn’t good enough.

They’re destroying STEM just like they destroyed the WWC/manufacturing. It’s happening much faster than the White Working Class destruction.

Mis(ter)Anthrope
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

I guess that was for wealthy boomers. I have worked every year since I was 15 years old. I am now 60 and will continue to work at least another 5 years. I worked my way through college and law school. “Bumming around” was not an option for me or most of my boomer friends.

The myths that youngsters have about how easy boomers had it are laughable.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Marko
3 years ago

My term for the coming collapse (Atlas will not get to shrug. He’ll collapse; drained by the death of a thousand cuts.) is “the Great Culling. The stoned, veggie munching underclass will join the Muzzies and a large percentage of joggers in the dustbin of history. Yeah, a lot of Caucasians and Asians will die but, especially us Caucs, we survived at least a couple of ice ages causing severe die-backs. We’ll come.through it okay. Too bad the Gaians won’t live to see the planet’s “renewal” after the major die-off. Leftism isn’t a survival positive behavior trait.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
3 years ago

If Climate Change is real, we are well and truly screwed. All of these things they want to do to “fight” climate change are 1/2 measures at best. If the central claim that releasing CO2 into the atmosphere will cause catastrophic warming is correct, nothing short of a total ban on all fossil fuels can address it. Even if it is true, the discussion around it is hysterical and highly political. Leftists use climate change as an excuse to do the things they already wanted to do. The anti-meat people were anti-meat before climate change was well known by the… Read more »

GetBackUp
GetBackUp
3 years ago
Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  GetBackUp
3 years ago

All those men are toxic. They should be more like us, the NuMales. They need to be educated.

GetBackUp
GetBackUp
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
3 years ago

NuMale sighting. Probably in Officers Training School in Kamals’s New Army. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqKWlUaT1qM&t=3s

Gespenst
Gespenst
3 years ago

Remember what happened to incandescent lightbulbs? That was a dress rehearsal for getting rid of the internal combustion engine. And meat will get the same treatment.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Gespenst
3 years ago

What is illustrative about the lighting thing is how, despite a very fast changeover to lights which are way more efficient, we use more electricity today than we did when the transition began. We are running around closing nuclear plants on top of that.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Gespenst
3 years ago

The vast majority of people can do without incandescent bulbs and even the internal combustion engine. Meat is another story. If the Archons really prosecute a War on Meat, they may well find themselves on meat-hooks, which is where they belong, of course.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

I can’t and my neighbors can’t. It’s called the city. No assigned or even defined parking, all of which is curbside. There’s nowhere to charge.
The cost differential is far too large.
There are some applications where incandescent is still the best choice. Lights in an enclosure should be incandescent unless it is designed from the ground up to be an LED light.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
3 years ago

Electric scooters are in your future then. They have a removable battery (very light /s) so that when you park you just pull the battery and take it to where you’re going and plug it in.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
3 years ago

God I hope not. The LAST thing I want in my house is a large cheaply made electric scooter (I am assuming by scooter you mean moped) battery. They aren’t that light either. Google says Lithium batteries have an energy density between 100 and 250wh/kg Since these are cheap, it would probably be on the lower side, say 150wh per kg. To have a 3kwh battery is 25kilograms. That’s over 50 pounds. Add the physical components of the battery and it’s maybe 60 pounds. That’s a lot of weight to lug in and out of your house and to carry… Read more »

American Citizen 2.0
American Citizen 2.0
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

If we don’t mind being a nation of people roughly the size of Central Americans, i.e. like 4’7″, surrounded by 7 foot tall Africans, then depriving us of protein is a great way to solve all kinds of problems both social and technological. A nation of hundreds of millions of tiny half-wits scraping together enough money from gig work to buy a small carton of soymilk and pay for a netflix subscription with occasional injections of emergency stimulus cash is a great way to cow a populace into submission. But I can absolutely guarantee you that those 7 foot tall… Read more »

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  American Citizen 2.0
3 years ago

Not happening. Once our ruling class cripples our white population the Chinese will simply walk right in and take everything. and then exterminate the ruling class and their precious nogs along with everyone else.

You have to remember it is whites who maintain everything in our society. Get rid of them and we go to 3rd world status with a non-existent military. That makes us a big fat target for invasion.

Roberto
Roberto
Reply to  American Citizen 2.0
3 years ago

Very true. What did vietnamese look like physically in the viet war? What do their american raised grandkids who have been raised on high protein diets look like ?

miforest
Member
Reply to  Roberto
3 years ago

It’s not real , its an excuse

My Comment
Member
3 years ago

These fake meat companies are the trannies of the food world. Maybe the first were artificial sweeteners. Tranny foods may have a slight resemblance to the real thing but are at best a poor substitute and at worst unhealthy and disgusting.

But since everything seems fake these days they seem to fit right in. Fake news. Fake elections. Fake justice. Fake videos and sound clips. Fake friends. Fake opposition. Fake president.

At the risk of seeming like I am worshiping Gaia, I feel like going out and hugging a tree. At least they are real.

Streets n San
Streets n San
Reply to  My Comment
3 years ago

Fake sugar even. Cane sugar is dirt cheap yet they try to feed us high fructose corn syrup which tastes like crap. Sugar doesn’t cost them appreciably more, so why do they substitute with contrived corn syrup? Because it’s bad for our health.

nunnya bidnez, jr
nunnya bidnez, jr
Reply to  Streets n San
3 years ago

Corn syrup replaced cane sugar because cane is grown in the Carribean (Cuba, notably) whereas corn is grown in the Midwest (Archer-Daniels-Midland , Cargill)

Streets n San
Streets n San
Reply to  nunnya bidnez, jr
3 years ago

They’ve offshored everything else, why not sweetner? And shouldn’t midwest corn be converted into ethanol?

I’ll continue buying the infrequent sweetened beverages that I consume in the Mexican neighborhoods here.

miforest
Member
Reply to  Streets n San
3 years ago

the mexican pop uses sugar and is way better.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  nunnya bidnez, jr
3 years ago

You’re correct about the sources of the sweeteners, but completely ignore the reason corporations switched. Corn based sweeteners are cheaper than pure sugar due to the latter having tariffs or subsidies. Pure economics. Cheaper wins.

Ignatius
Ignatius
Reply to  Streets n San
3 years ago

Living alongside a major rail route I pay attention to passing railcars when building or maintaining my fences. Occasional trains of mostly “tanker cars” clearly marked for gasoline, diesel, crude oil, and also High Fructose Syrup!
(are syrup tankers delivered to beverage factory then connected with a hose?)

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  My Comment
3 years ago

Fake meat has been around for decades – think Morningstar farms. Having been a vegan I can tell you the fake meat tastes like crap. You have to douse it in steak sauce or BBQ sauce to make it palatable. But that’s not the worst of it, the downside of being a vegan. You lose muscle mass, testosterone and get physically weaker. The only way to maintain muscle mass and protein intake is to use protein supplements and BCAA’s. Every vegan I know does this. Soy based foods? Stay the fuck away from them unless you want to kill your… Read more »

Bill
Bill
3 years ago

I recently listened to a Sam Harris podcast interview on this subject, with two people who are pushing the fake meat idea. Their thing was sustainability: what the world would look like if everyone on the planet ate as much meat as we Americans do. They were ‘measuring’ various meats on the ‘calories in vs. calories out’ scale: how many calories of feed does it take to produce one calorie of chicken, compared to how many calories of feed it takes to produce one calorie of beef, etc. They said that chicken was the most efficient, with (IIRC) a 46-to-1… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Bill
3 years ago

Harris is either a liar, a moron or a little of both. He is also a pompous ass. He actually makes the argument that we need cops to be more like MMA fighters. Maybe he and Yang can get together and teach them karate? He makes the argument that we only live in a rich country by luck of birth and that Syrians or Africans only live in a poor country by luck of birth. He allows his interviewees to lie completely unchallenged. Then he has whoppers like this, absolutely no good can ever come of having public discussions around… Read more »

Bill
Bill
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
3 years ago

I have to disagree with you about Sam Harris. There’s a lot that he says— and refuses to say— that I don’t agree with. He shies away from race-realism regarding inherent racial differences. He takes Covid seriously. He doesn’t see any good in Trump. But I don’t automatically discount someone just because he’s wrong about some stuff. I don’t make him to be a pompous asshole. I find him eminently reasonable about most questions. And he has some VERY interesting guests. I’m not sure what you’re referring to when you say he thinks all cops should be MMA fighters. I’ve… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Bill
3 years ago

I think it was right around the Floyd death and about blacks getting killed, at least the last time I heard him talk about it, I think. He keeps saying cops can’t fight well enough blah blah blah. Plus the typical ‘cops need more training’ BS. Cops are never going to be Brazilian ju-jitsu masters. It’s retarded. Either way this issue can never be addressed until the police stop hiring quota hires, and he supports quota hires. He is completely unreasonable about most subjects. He pretends him sitting around smoking pot with Joe Rogan and Elon Musk makes him an… Read more »

American Citizen 2.0
American Citizen 2.0
Reply to  Bill
3 years ago

Sam Harris is a Jew. His mother was one of the golden girls. He spent his 20s doing drugs and learning about Buddhism. I am not saying you shouldn’t consider what he says but you should also keep in mind that he is speaking from a place that is ultimately abysmal for you. He is a wealthy Jew pursuing intellectual hobbies while doing the Shape Shifter “maybe I am just a normal curious white guy” schtick. I make it a rule to first look at who an author or podcaster is, i.e. look them up and read about them to… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  American Citizen 2.0
3 years ago

I agree with your skepticism of all media. But you paint Jewry with a very wide brush. That is doubt taken too far, into cynicism. It may be true that Gentiles should distrust Jews, but it’s rather a stretch to claim that all Jews lie all the time. Categorical statements should be especially scrutinized. Extraordinary statements demand extraordinary proof. Your claim about Jewish veracity is both of those. Why not instead evaluate a person’s statement on its merits alone? Generally that’s something you should do with ANY narrative you encounter, at least those that purport to be nonfiction. Sometimes having… Read more »

Bill
Bill
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
3 years ago

I certainly feel lucky to have been born in the US rather than Africa, or Afghanistan, or Syria, or any number of places. That’s how I understand Harris’s remarks about luck: simply that some people are born into more fortunate circumstances than others; which is pretty hard to argue with, IMO. And he admits that he himself has had a lucky life; which again is hard to deny. He’s NOT saying that the differences between the US and Africa are due to the fact that we’re just luckier. He’s implying that Africa is a fucked-up place, and that it’s bad… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Bill
3 years ago

But it’s not luck. The reason you were born into a wealthy society and they were not is because your closest relatives made our society while their closest relatives made their society. They are poor because their ancestors and relatives built a poor society and we are rich because our ancestors and closest relatives built the society we inherited. It literally could not have happened any other way. You could not have been born somewhere else or you wouldn’t be you. You would have different genes and different life experiences. People like to lift themselves out of their circumstances and… Read more »

Anon
Anon
Reply to  Bill
3 years ago

That argument only makes sense to city dwellers. Here in the west, there are are millions of acres of land that will never grow beans or grain cross much less vegetables. But you can run sheep and cows on that same ground and they will convert unusable high desert scrub to millions of pounds of beef and lamb. I’m not sure there is enough great farm land left to feed 7 billion people on kale and cucumbers. In the US, we built subdivisions over all the best fertile delta land generations ago. Take away petroleum based fertilizers and the fossil… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Bill
3 years ago

As a chld/teen I made some recipes from “Diet for a Small Planet”. And mine was a conservative household. Go figure. Some of the dishes were quite good.

It’s probably true when a Leftist/Dreamer argues “If we all did this, there would be enough for everyone.” The Paul Harvey factor, the rest of the story, you never hear is the simple postscript: “Yes, and in a generation there will be more everyone.”

Gedeon
Gedeon
Reply to  Bill
3 years ago

Cornish X chickens are common “meat chickens” that even the homestead keeper has to raise caged. They also grow so fast and get so big their legs give out in even the most anthropomorphic conditions. Who enjoys tough chicken meat?

Some people are genetically doomed and so are most livestock breeds.

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
3 years ago

It’s worth noting that Regulatory Arbitrage, as a business model, isn’t a new thing. From the early efforts of MCI and Sprint (long distance versus ATT monopoly) to the first major post-Industrial effort – Amazon (sales tax arbitrage) – these models have yielded great profits and attracted many imitators. But they weren’t overtly political and cultural until now. They are everywhere: Robinhood (SEC arbitrage), wind and solar power companies (subsidy/tax credit grifts), Tesla and other EVs (subsidy/tax credit grifts), Uber/Lyft (taxi regs/labor laws/wage law arbitrage) and now Fake Meat (create a product, then lobby for legislation favoring your product). It’s… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

I concur that it’s most likley the super-rich people invested in these dubious industries, and using their influence with government to get what is effectively free advertising, promotion and even coercion to use their product. In other words, exactly how one would expect a budding corporate fascist state (did we ever decide upon the proper term?) to behave. This is precisely how “green” (renewable) energy and a dozen other policy changes that the Left have been pushing for years should be viewed: skeptically. Just as with renewable energy, I suspect if you take an honest look at the cost of… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

Probably Monsanto. I think they already have subsidiary named Best Foods.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

Reminds me of the minor dust-up a few years ago where a social media blitz accused Taco Bell of not having any beef in their “hamburger”. To combat the assertion Taco Bell (or whatever homoglomo conglomerate owns them) said that their hamburger was indeed mostly beef and released the ingredient list. As I recall, “mostly” was some number of cow subcomponents totaling more than 50% to flavor the remaining textured soy protein. It reminded me of a local meat concern that sold really cheap boxes of “hamburgers” made of just soy and beef fat (good luck keeping your eyebrows while… Read more »

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
3 years ago

Most fast food burgers today are nearly inedible. It wasn’t always like this. 20-30 years ago the big chains burgers were pretty damn good. Not anymore. You have to go with a small local chain to get decent offerings like In&Out. The only way I can eat a big chain burger is by saying no to the mayo and putting pepper sauce on the damn thing to give it some flavor. Otherwise it is like chewing on cardboard. Utterly tasteless. And this goes across the board from Wendys to McD’s. Even worse they are served cold in many cases. God… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
3 years ago

In Texas, eating beef is very close to being a state religion. In that respect, Texas is the anti-India. Should the War on Meat come to fruition, it just might precipitate secession. Texans can put up with the War on Whitey, the sanctification of anti-white terrorist organization BLM, the Kovid Kaptivity and a stolen presidential election, but I don’t think they will stomach the outlawry of barbecued brisket. Strange as it may seem, this could be the tripwire.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

Ban beef? Them’s fightin’ words!

“Come and Take It” flags will replace the canon with a T-Bone.

MBlanc46
MBlanc46
3 years ago

You are perfectly welcome to not want to eat “plant-based” meats. De gustibus non disputandum est. But making false, sarcastic comments about such products is not a good look for you. Impossible products are, of course, not made from “grass clippings”. It’s my understanding that they are made from soy protein. One of Impossible’s principal competitors, Beyond Meat, is made from pea protein. Of course, if these companies had managed to process grass clippings into something edible, that would have been a good thing. But they are not grass clippings and you know that they are not grass clippings. Calling… Read more »

el-porko
el-porko
Reply to  MBlanc46
3 years ago

Somebody didn’t get their decaf soy latte this morning….

B125
B125
Reply to  MBlanc46
3 years ago

It’s made from pea protein isolate, mixed in with a bunch of seed oils and other crap. Basically all the most unhealthy things you could eat.

My grandparents lived into their 90s and older ancestors to their 60s and 70s with no medical care, eating meat every day. I’m sticking to meat and potatoes.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  MBlanc46
3 years ago

The sarcasm is being used to drive home a more important & fundamental point, which is far bigger than the fake meat issue. That point being that we now live in an insane political environment in which a mega corporation selling alien-shit-on-a-shingle can bribe politicians to enact laws & regulations that will coerce into existence a contrived market even if it is against common sense & the will of the people. IOW, tyranny by proxy. And that should be something that unites us all (meat-eaters & vegans alike) against the Arch Pathogens.

Gedeon
Gedeon
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

Is the hot take that Prince William or, ahem, Prince Bastard not deceive his subjects into eating seitan and soy products if only we restore a proper monarchy?

Explain the jump to the other train tracks and how it is factually different from the swampocracy. The mega corporations are downstream of the governing class. The corporations are just administrative entities and a piece of the overall HR architecture.

PSA – Zuckerberg slaughters his own meat.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  MBlanc46
3 years ago

Mel, you are brave, I’ll certainly give you that.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  MBlanc46
3 years ago

Grass clippings would be better than soy proteins, especially for males. It is really an assaults on testosterone. Same with cholesterol which is needed for testosterone production. Turning all males into soyboys is the goal.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  c matt
3 years ago

If it’s not the primary goal, it’s certainly a major side dividend. Eliminate so-called “toxic masculinity” by poisoning us with toxic food.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  c matt
3 years ago

Yep and the number of soyboys is growing as the testosterone levels in the West are dropping like a rock along with sperm counts. I suspect the push for eating fake meat is partly driven by the war against males(white males in particular) so as to turn our progeny into soyboys or eunuchs. I wonder if it’s tied in with all the soy additives found in processed foods and various seasonings packets. It’s really hard to not find soy listed as a ingredient now days. The thing is about this addictive, is that it’s not needed. Like WTF is it… Read more »

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  c matt
3 years ago

Some of us are allergic to soy; a little bit I can make off with, but a strady exposure gives me migraine headaches, particularly in conjunction with too much fermented dairy like yogurt. This I learned from an allergist I consulted some years back about that issue. I changed my dietary habits, and presto, no more life-wrecking headaches.

I lived successfully, but laboriously trying to get the proper nutrients, for a few years as a vegetarian, but no more, thank you very much.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  MBlanc46
3 years ago

Soy is the leading cause of pedantic faggotry, among other more serious afflictions. The moral apex of meat is non-meat. Funny how this inversion seems to be mapped across so much of our decaying culture. I remember the quaint times when the best man in the room was a woman. You go girl! How often now out progress is measured in the ways in which technological solutions appealing to a fringe minority enthralled by anti-humanism become solutions to the peaky problem of humanity being human. We have evolved beyond meat just as we have evolved beyond race, sex, marriage, God,… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  MBlanc46
3 years ago

Isn’t it interesting that even the most hardcore vegetarians still crave meat? Look, for instance, at all of the vegetarian sausages and burgers available on the market, which are designed to mimic meat as closely as possible. Vegetarians are making themselves miserable by denying their innate human desire to eat meat. If vegetarianism doesn’t spring from neurosis, it most assuredly generates it.

Streets n San
Streets n San
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

My wife has been a vegetarian for nearly forty years. She was raised in a poor home until she went off to college at age fifteen. All her family ate at each meal was hamburger. Today my wife finds meat in any form, real or fake, to be utterly disgusting. She definitely does not crave the stuff, thanks to her hamburger days.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Streets n San
3 years ago

There are exceptions. The vegetarians I’ve known are either falling off of the wagon or trying desperately not to. They are innately compelled to eat meat and turn themselves into borderline basket cases resisting the urge. Your wife is fortunate to be happy in her vegetarianism.

Au Jus
Au Jus
Member
Reply to  MBlanc46
3 years ago

Christ what a fag

BTP
Member
Reply to  MBlanc46
3 years ago

Lighten up, Francis.

…………..

American Citizen 2.0
American Citizen 2.0
Reply to  MBlanc46
3 years ago

I feel bad for the Brand Manager at Impossible Foods who is forced to scour the internet for negative comments about their products and write sensible responses.

Thanks for playing. We are dissidents on this website. We don’t care if your burgers aren’t really grass clippings. We care about meat that we can cook and eat and also saving Western Civilization. In that order. Sorry.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  MBlanc46
3 years ago

MBlanc46, shill for the vegans much? I cannot imagine anykne who reads the Zman actually thinking he was talking about food actually made from grass clippings. If they COULD make a meat substitute out of grass clippings at a reasonable cost then the guys who mow lawn would either be paying the property owners to cut the grass or at least doing it for free and selling the clippings to the folks who turned grass clippings into food for people.

If you’re gonna shill, at least be a little less blatant about it!

B125
B125
3 years ago

I went on a date just as the Beyond Meat craze started and the girl ordered a Grass Burger. A red flag in hindsight. I tried it and it tasted like shit, absolutely nothing like meat.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

Have to ask. How long did the “relationship” last? 😉

B125
B125
Reply to  Bill Mullins
3 years ago

One date after that, we got busy at the movie theater. never saw her after that.

Drake
Drake
3 years ago

Luckily the whole farm-to-market fad is going to make banning meat harder. We have several farms and butcher shops nearby now that sell locally raised meat products. I probably buy more meat from those places than I do the grocery store.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
3 years ago

There’s lots of cholesterol in the brain. I’ll take a delmonico, rare, thanks.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

There’s another one. The basic building materials of the body are natural fats (say, butter), cholesterol, and (meat) proteins. All the inverted food pyramid is designed to leave us sick and weak.

3 Pipe problem
3 Pipe problem
3 years ago

Allll Aboooaaard the Snowpiercer Express. Would you like some soy milk with that cicada burger sir?

F**K Gaia and the whorse she’s riding in with.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

The question is, why? The fact is there is no market for fake meat. That’s just not true. Vegetarianism and Veganism has been growing by leaps and bounds, especially among the young dumb and educated. Corps saw this as a large and growing underserved market segment. Big money jumped in because the fake meat is a manufactured product meaning that it has high gross profit margins and those margins will increase with increased production. IMO They’re wrong about the size and growth of the market. But wrong in a “new coke” kinda a way. Not in a lizard man conspiracy… Read more »

panther
panther
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

But are vegans purchasing “impossible burgers” and “fake meat” products? I don’t think so.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  panther
3 years ago

The vegans and vegetarians that I know buy fake meat products.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Drew
3 years ago

Even so, true vegetarians- as in raised vegan- tell me they still need to take amino acid supplements.

Ex-Pralite Monk
Ex-Pralite Monk
Reply to  Drew
3 years ago

Is there a single example of a vegan who isn’t sick-looking? Veganism is based on the assumption that we know all there is to know about human nutritional needs. That’s a hell of an assumption.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Ex-Pralite Monk
3 years ago

They’re so pale, thin and washed out-looking that you can almost see right through them. Definitely not a good look. And it also seems that a high percentage of them are allergic to personal hygiene.

GetBackUp
GetBackUp
Reply to  Ex-Pralite Monk
3 years ago
dinothedoxie
dinothedoxie
Reply to  panther
3 years ago

Maybe maybe not.

The point is that the geniuses running these companies think they will. There’s plenty of examples of executives blowing up big businesses with bad gambles. This is most likely just another example of such.

Cameron
Cameron
3 years ago

Can we eat the elite’s livers with some fava beans and a nice chianti?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Cameron
3 years ago

That one generated a genuine LOL from me.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Cameron
3 years ago

Chianti is overrated. 🙂

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  ProZNoV
3 years ago

Liver and fava beans aren’t high on my culinary pecking order either.

Cameron
Cameron
3 years ago

Probably in the minority here but if I had to give up meat or dairy, I’d give up meat. It would be a hard choice, but I love milk, cheese, ice cream, etc. too much.
Of all the meats, beef would be the hardest to give up. Easy to give up chicken. Giving up pork I’d mostly miss sausage and bacon but I could see making these out of beef.

Whitney
Member
Reply to  Cameron
3 years ago

They want you to give up cheese too. Only white people can digest lactose it’s white supremacy. They’re coming for your cheese too

Streets n San
Streets n San
Reply to  Whitney
3 years ago

Wisconsin is next door. I’ll never run out of cheese or German beer. I can live on that.

Maniac
Maniac
Reply to  Streets n San
3 years ago

And you could probably heat your home with methane too.

Crabe-Tambour
Crabe-Tambour
Reply to  Streets n San
3 years ago

So do I (NW Side); we may live in a Midwest dystopia, but WI makes survivalism not just possible, but comfortable.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Streets n San
3 years ago

As much as I love WS (never lived there, but have (or had) relatives in state, I fear that over time, the European (“Midwestern Nice”) is going to work to their detriment: Old Milwaukee (and perhaps snobbier craft brews) , Cheddar, Swiss and other heritage foods will give way to Malt Liquor and Government Cheese* 🙂

*I’m not sure this exists any more; they used to sell the same thing the poor got here (?) at commissaries in Germany. It was incredibly cheap, like $0.50/LB. I called it “barracks rat cheese.”

Streets n San
Streets n San
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

Ladies and gentlemen, behold the Milwaukee bloody mary. It has all your nutrition in one jar: http://paprikaangel.typepad.com/.a/6a0148c73b051c970c022ad3884885200d-pi

miforest
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

I am in michigan . midwest crazy is more like it. The people here are the most compliant mask wearing people of anywhere I have been since this started. they also love the governatrix who has economically destroyed their state. I fear wis. and Mich are on the express train to being the next minn or oregon.

Moe Noname
Moe Noname
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

When growing up around Chicago, my brother always said Wisconsin was his favorite suburb.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Whitney
3 years ago

They want Whites to give up meat and dairy because it made us more physically fit and tall. They want to
continually diminish White men’s testosterone levels and stunt their stature. All the talk about animal welfare and gaia worship, while it has an element of truth, is merely a smokescreen the vegans and animal rightist use to hide, even to themselves, their anti-White, anti-male agenda.

Follow the money is not really the rule to follow anymore – it’s follow the racial angle. Always ask: Is it good for White people? In this case, obviously not. Stock your freezers.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  3g4me
3 years ago

And don’t forget all of the lactose-intolerant “immigrants” Our Elites see fit to grace us with. Changing the counrry’s average genetic makeup with attention to detail, and wrecking the livelihoods of white farmers, too. Mammoth Agricorp doesn’t care; fake and ghey is just as good – maybe better – for their bottom line, which is all that they care about.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  Cameron
3 years ago

One of the weird ironies of the animal rights hatred of beef is that cows have the most normal life any of our food animals.

Crispin
Crispin
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

And from the moment they are born, cows are always fully dressed in quality leather.
They’re classy right until they end up next to my baked potato.
Thank you, America’s Beef Producers!

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

If the vegetarian and vegan diets are so inherently fulfilling why do they spend so much time and effort trying to create meat simulacra?

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

I’ve directly asked vegans that question.

The response is that they’re vegetarians because they care about animal welfare.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

Still doesn’t add up to me.

I mean, if they really care that much about animals why even simulate meat consumption?

I know, it’s not really meant to make sense to the non-believers.

MBlanc46
MBlanc46
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

They are protein. And they add variety to the menu. Why is that so hard to understand?

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  MBlanc46
3 years ago

To be fair, my belief that veganism is to make us weak founders on one shoal: the Sikh. A tenet of their highest-level baptism, the final one where they earn the warrior’s turban, is complete vegetarianism. And yet, those are big boys.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  MBlanc46
3 years ago

Fine. If some companies want to produce fake “meat” to cater to some niche dingbat group, go ahead. But don’t force it, by hook or crook on those who have no interest.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

The metaphor that’s always brought up is if they’d think that much better of a cannibal that only ate lab grown “long pork”.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

If you are good at sarcasm, have you ever lectured them for being heartless plant killers? “Don’t you know that plants are living things too?” If you can do it with a straight face it’s priceless 😀

Severian
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

Hitler was a vegetarian. Why do you want to be like Hitler? (I’m kidding, but I’m not joking. Report them to the ADL and the SPLC, just for the lulz).

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

In point of fact, more animals are killed in the planting, growing and harvesting of vegetables than are slaughtered for meat. Those vegetable farms are filled with all manner of small and burrowing animals. Might as well just accept that we’re at the top of the food chain, and that, for us to live, other creatures must die. That may be unpleasant, but it is an unalterable facet of our reality.

miforest
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

having actually plowed a field, you are correct. birds, mice rabbits,voles,woodchucks ,snakes , frogs turtles ,chipmunks, gophers, are all killed in large numbers just plowing the ground to get it ready to plant.

B125
B125
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

>choose to not eat meat
>create a Frankenstein meat substitute that tastes nothing like meat but they can still feel like they’re eating meat

I think eating meat fills a primal desire. Man needs religion, which modern leftists fill with George Floyd worship. He needs sex which porn and VR and sex dolls fill in for many men these days. He probably needs meat too and they’re creating a bastard substitute for the midwits who got too smart for their own spirits.

Howard Beale
Howard Beale
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Someone sent me this meme the other day,”Dear Vegans: I killed this cow because it was eating your food. You’re welcome.” Pretty well sums it up.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
3 years ago

It’s like they hate tradition, or are addicted to novelty. A 350 year old British foundry of brass bellmakers? Closed. A 950 year old Japanese company? Closed. Generations, centuries of specialized knowledge lost. As knowledge is lost- such as the ability to invent and build a nuclear power plant from scratch- the novelty seekers aren’t coming up with any new ideas. Worse, boring old traditions, like trains, electric grids and bridges, are ignored as not exciting enough. Real complexity and all its feeder subspecialties bore the idiots. T’aint ‘sexy’. These peoples’ values are all messed up. Our influencer class reminds… Read more »

Boris
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

“Paul Newman movie Quartet”…. never even heard of it and consider myself a dystopian/a sc-fi buff. Will definitely check it out. Speaking of dystopian flicks, one my favs is Soylent Green. This article reminds me of the poignant dinner scene between Edward G Robinson ( his last flick) and Charlton Heston. Heston is having his first meal ever with beef and fresh fruit & vegs. Of course the meal is topped off by a glass of bourbon. Probably one of the best ( and saddest) dinner scenes in movie history. Sad because in the not too distant future there will… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

Your points reinforce my pessimist belief that once our current civilization crashes, it’ll be the start of another Dark Age. People underestimate how much old, and not so old, knowledge, wisdom and experience gets lost because it’s “obsolete.” Even if it’s written down somewhere, it’ll be at best in a few arcane, scattered books. If and when a big crash comes, even if those texts survive, to regain that knowledge presupposes a group of people meeting at least minimums of competence, literacy and numeracy. This latter requirement is already in rapidly vanishing supply, even in “normal” times. They’d become even… Read more »

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

Your comment reminds me of what I used to say to people who asked why I had so many technical/text books on my shelves: ‘Get it while you can, especially if it is practical.’

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

To be honest, I think at least two or three, or more, multi-millenial dark ages have already happened to the proto-White race. Repeated periods of asteroid strikes or caldera eruptions did the work of nuclear bombs. Hostile populations put their two cents in, as well. The rest never even came close to what we, and we alone, achieved. Creation, aka Nature, works on timescales we can barely grasp. Simplifying a cosmic-scale ecology into a child’s familial framework may not be entirely accurate, but it sure is handy. Nonetheless, only we are the Elves- even the Pretenders cannot be us, try… Read more »

Cameron
Cameron
3 years ago

“they mean repent in that you will commit the act of contrition and they will get salvation.”

Another great one-liner. Pretty much sums up elite-Leftist religion.

Stranger in a Strange Land
Stranger in a Strange Land
Reply to  Cameron
3 years ago

Amen broth…er..commrade.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
3 years ago

“They really believe that Gaia is angry with us and will unleash her wrath unless we repent.”

Dear Gaia,

I know that I have not really prayed to the Earth Gods whenever the heck Earth Day is, so you may not listen; but anyway… Please, please, please, if you do just one thing, make sure that multiple avalanches occur at Davos at a certain time in the coming year.

Cameron
Cameron
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

“and if you do not listen, then to hell with you!”

– Conan the Barbarian

https://www.moviefanatic.com/quotes/crom-i-have-never-prayed-to-you-before-i-have-no-tongue-for-it-n/

Reynard
Reynard
Member
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

My child,
HOW DARE YOU! You, a mere human, do not ask me for favors, especially since you have not paid NEARLY enough CO2 tribute! Have you pooped in the garden AT ALL this year? Do you even drive a Prius? A few more years of this selfish behavior from you and your ilk, and believe me, I WILL smite ye with either fire, flood or freeze.

Do better.

Mother Earth

sentry
sentry
3 years ago

The Eco-Spasm(1975) – Author: Alvin Toffler(tribe member, no surprise there) – talks about a future vegan religious movement that restricts eating meat to save the world.

Yes, this shit was planned, it is a conspiracy, nothing shameful about pointing out actual conspiracies.

The j*uw owned media pushes the vegan agenda for years now.

https://vegfund.org/blog/the-economist-predicts-2019-year-of-the-vegan

c matt
c matt
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

I get what you are saying about conspiracy, but that conjures up the image of a bunch of folks sitting around plotting this out in detail. It seems more a “coordination” of like minded folks and their hangers on. Kind of like in the old Miracle on 34th Street (the one with the most beautiful redhead of all time: Maureen O’Hara) where the Santa Claus character gets various people to “do the right thing” but each through their own selfish motivations. There may be a few “Santa Claus” type characters sort of setting the tone to get things rolling, but… Read more »

miforest
Member
Reply to  c matt
3 years ago

familiarize yourself with the global economic forum. they sit around in Davos and plan everything out. the org is 50 years old, and is an umbrella group for governments, corporations , central banks, and foundations .

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  c matt
3 years ago

I get what you are saying about conspiracy, but that conjures up the image of a bunch of folks sitting around plotting this out in detail.

Mullins’ Law #2:
Never attribute to conspiracy what may adequately be explained by flocking behavior.

Carla
Carla
3 years ago

I hope I die before they take away the red meat. Then, again, I guess there is hunting…this is all so terribly depressing and I still have a few years of craving a good steak in me…alas.

David Wright
Member
Reply to  Carla
3 years ago

Stock up on jerky, canned stews and the like. That will buy you a couple of years.

Pickle Rick
Pickle Rick
Reply to  Carla
3 years ago

How are you going to hunt without ammunition, or the “privilege” when the state decides that licenses are now $500? Or deploys more game wardens to harass rural whites since enforcing laws on Africans is now bad?

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Pickle Rick
3 years ago

Simple.Do what the ex-Nazis did after WWII, turn the police and wardens into sausage. Which BTW really happened during the years after WWII.

The point is if things get this bad, just go hunting for two legged game because life won’t be worth living. It will be better to die on ones feet than to live like a groveling slave.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Rwc1963
3 years ago

Better to die in your sleep but if the choice is between starvation, being worked to.death in a “re-education camp” or a fusillade of rifle fire, I choose rifle fire. It’d definitely be quicker – and likely less painful!

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Carla
3 years ago

Z-Man is the Chief Pharmacologist at the great Black Pill Emporium. And I’ve noticed him conferring with John Derbyshire about prescriptions on more than a few occasions.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

Some of it is Gaia, as Z notes, but a good part of it, as Z also notes, is the elite wanting to be, well, elite. I honestly believe that our elite have been feeling a bit of envy for the elite of the past or even the elite of other, poorer countries. Back in feudal days, the ruling class really stuck out. No other class was even close to the nobility. When nobility rode through the village, you knew it. The same is true of the elite in South American countries today. The elite just don’t stick out like… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

Part of the kink certainly is making meat consumption an indicator of high status. Hence, Gates says only non-Westerners should eat meat, which makes no sense from a eugenics/human worth standpoint. It does make sense if you are a geeky loser despite your billions and have sunk a hunk of it in meat-substitutes.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

You’ve identified yet another whopper by the elite. Strictly by biology (Evolution) man should eat meats, fish, fruits, vegetables and damned little else. Agriculture began essentially with growing edible grasses (cereals), wheat, corn, and so on. This “required” civilization. This is all at most ten thousand years ago. That is barely a blip in terms of evolution. Even “modern” (prehistoric) man goes back easily ten or twenty times that long. A hundred times if you count our earliest human-like ancestors. Now, it’s true that man is partially evolved to eat a plant-rich diet (and similarly, that’s why a large fraction… Read more »

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

A big cheeseburger with lettuce and tomato strikes just the right balance with all the food groups.

Whitney
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

The Inner Circle being composed of the elite with special knowledge and privileges has been true of every Gnostic heresy. this one is no different

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

Add race/religion to class and you have your answer. The ‘elite’ not only want to stand out, they want the dirt people to know they are dirt – to acknowledge it and to literally be forced to grovel. The rent-collectors and tavern keepers in Europe despised the farming peasants and considered them animals. The type of agriculture each race traditionally practiced influenced the growth of different societies and the physical characteristics of different people. Asians generally cultivate rice and have eaten any sort of protein (bugs, lizard, frogs, etc.) they could catch in order to survive. Millions of them still… Read more »

B125
B125
Reply to  3g4me
3 years ago

White women generally only miscegenate because there are a lack of marriage material white men. I know so many white guys who are full of soy, betas, living in their parents basement gaming and smoking pot. White women would rather have a family with a POC than a white loser.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

I’ve played the Division games online which for some reason attract a large dindu demographic , white guys aren’t the only ones who fit that description.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  3g4me
3 years ago

+42 Yes there is a war on against white males. We see this in the constant dropping of testosterone and sperm levels in men. Thanks to food additives. Then there is the push to encourage us to stuff our faces with fast food and processed food loaded with carbs and soy that weakens us even more.. Look at the media. There are no longer any strong white male action figures out there. None in the movies or on TV. Most white males are either portrayed as basket cases, rapists or some sort of criminal. Or how public schools have phased… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  3g4me
3 years ago

Humiliation is the name of the game. With humiliation comes shame, with shame comes depression, with depression comes surrender, with surrender comes death. Obviously I think electoral politics are merely control mechanisms, but the election of Trump gave hope, however false, to tens of millions of people who were scheduled for slaughter. Animals with any fight in them are dangerous. There is no common ground here. It’s either us or them. To avoid mass casualties we need to find a way to make the lives of the ruling class miserable. If last summer’s riots can extend into secluded upper class… Read more »

plato_spaghetti
plato_spaghetti
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Bingo. These are weak and corrupt children whose only power comes from the failure of the adults to coalesce and smack them down.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

Your first paragraph rings very true. Could it be because that in our modern times, perhaps at most the past two or even one century, has been the only time in Civilization’s history where what had previously been outrageous luxuries became available to nearly everyone, at least in the “developed” countries? All this was, of course, made possible by material progress, technology and industry. Of course the entire world has never had a sufficiency of everything, even now. It’s only been for a few generations that we’ve enjoyed the sheer democratization of old time “luxuries” (and in that number, you’d… Read more »

tristan
tristan
3 years ago

You spend a few paras describing a conspiracy of government intent and billionaires which will harm large parts of the population by removing animal protein from diets against their wishes.
“a secret plan made by two or more people to do something bad, illegal, or against someone’s wishes: ” and then say its not a conspiracy.

I am genuinely curious as to what would meet the threshold for conspiracy ?

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  tristan
3 years ago

A lot of the material isn’t even secret.

The Rockefeller Lockstep pandemic document is on the public Internet.

The WEF has loads of videos and op-eds across social media.

Those are just two examples.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

There is no requirement that a conspiracy be secret. It just makes it work a little easier that way. The only differences between a conspiracy and a partnership are the legality of the object and the sharing of profits/losses.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  tristan
3 years ago

Two or more people discussing, for planning purposes, committing illegal acts.
Conspiracy is the most common Federal criminal charge.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Bilejones
3 years ago

And the most common federal activity.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
3 years ago

You quickly find out how much these green leftists really care about the planet when you bring up mass immigration and the effect of bringing third world peasants into the West where they leave a much bigger carbon footprint by adopting a Western lifestyle, along with urban sprawl, loss of wildlife habitat, etc.

Epaminondas
Epaminondas
Reply to  Wolf Barney
3 years ago

It’ll be interesting to watch POCs respond to the elites’ attempt to foist soy burgers on them. Ain’t gonna happen.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Epaminondas
3 years ago

It won’t happen. Meat deprivation is aimed at citizens to degrade them.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

They want us weak. Blonds and redheads eating superior proteins of milk and beef kicked the weaker, disease-ridden grain eater drudges’ tail.

Cameron
Cameron
Reply to  Epaminondas
3 years ago

I’ve seen how dindus react when you give them free food (assuming it’s something they don’t want to eat) at a VOLUNTEER food pantry:

“I ain’t funna eat dat shit!!”

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Cameron
3 years ago

Murders have been committed at black family reunions over the last piece of fried chicken or the last rib on the platter. And I’m quite serious about that. One can only imagine the carnage when they bite into tofu yardbird.

Cameron
Cameron
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

The last piece of steak and the last skrimp.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Wolf Barney
3 years ago

The Sierra Club took millions from a Tribe donor and dropped its sensible position on population stabilization. Alleged environmentalism along with environmental degredation via mass migration serve t g e same purpose: to destroy Whites. Outside of Japan m, wbich is horrible outside its homeland, environmental protection is a White thing.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Japan plays a good game, better than most*, but if some minor flood control could be had by paving over Mount Fuji a Yakuza-connected concrete crew would be out there the next day getting ready to go. *(I had an acquaintance relate to me that when the Ghibli move Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind came out in Japan that the schools dragged all the students in to watch, so critical they felt it’s message to be. If you ever watch it, which I don’t recommend, it’s about as hamfisted an environmental flick ever made, about as subtle as… Read more »

KL
KL
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
3 years ago

Miyazaki is a genius, but he has a definite weakness for environmentalism and (unlike almost every other anime director ever) feminism. Princess Mononoke was a lot more balanced- the film acknowledges that the residents of the iron town at war with nature have a higher standard of living due to industrialization.

David Wright
Member
Reply to  Wolf Barney
3 years ago

These leftists are a suicide cult nothing will redeem them.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

Ah, but their intentions were good! 😀 Seriously, we sometimes mention this, but worth repeating, perhaps for the benefit of brand new readers, the core failing of the Leftist (and, probably other ill-considered idealistic movements): 1. Come up with a noble, Utopian, highly desirable goal. 2. Attempt to impose it upon the real world. 3. Ignore limitations that the real world imposes on your dreams. Discount any wisdom or lessons that history or science might provide. Pay not heed to those who criticize or otherwise point out flaws in your scheme. If necessary, increase funding, hire more workers, marginalize, imprison… Read more »

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

Step 4A: Say more resources are needed, or the theory is correct, but it just wasn’t implemented correctly.

Dennis Roe
Dennis Roe
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

You just described jewflu, well done.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
3 years ago

The primal brain of humans knows meat consumption is associated with strength and masculinity. No man goes out grilling a vegan burger.

Liberal democracy, a rule by a egalitarian tribal consensus mechanism with no explicit hierarchy, is inherently a feminine hivemind.

It’s not going to end with banning meat. They’ll come after free-weight gym equipment and grunting next, for safety reasons. Think an employee of Planet Fitness stepping on your face, forever.

Reynard
Reynard
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

Oh the fitness industry is next. All you physical trainers out there prepare yourselves!

“Sir why do you want to put people through so much pain!? Are you some kind of sadist, sir!? Like, do you ENJOY torturing people?”

“Why can’t you just be happy with the way people are? What is this need to mold everybody into your cis-European-male view of strength? It is HIGHLY oppressive and bigoted!!!”

“You creep, stop “stretching” out your “clients”/victims. That is creepy, and I feel violated just witnessing it. You are harassing them, and violating their body!”

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Reynard
3 years ago

It’s already that way but for a different reason. After a month of focusing on proper form, getting an algorithm for gradual progression, getting the routine set, and diet (low carb, high protein), there’s no reason for a personal trainer outside of someone with elite status. For 20% of the people who actually want to get fit, fitness trainers make you do all sorts of useless nonsense to make them look like gurus and convince you that their services are needed. The other 80% really don’t care but want to tell their friends they have a trainer to prove they’re… Read more »

Reynard
Reynard
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

I know some physical trainers. Yeah its a racket, mostly a sign of status as you said. There are alot of upper-middle class house wifes who are bored and have money to throw around. Their mediocre children also need to feel like they can get an edge in baseball and football. So there is alot of money to be made there too. But anybody serious about getting in shape will get in shape. Its not that hard. A gym membership to the Y is more than enough. “make you do all sorts of useless nonsense to make them look like… Read more »

Streets n San
Streets n San
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

I pay my trainer to do the workout for me. If he slacks off, there is no tip. Osmosis is the new intenive workout.

Reynard
Reynard
Member
Reply to  Streets n San
3 years ago

😂
*sips from milk-shake* “Come on man, I have a date this weekend, put some back into it!”

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

Yes and no. Some people need another person to provide motivation and discipline. And it is not accidental that the more popular trainers are attractive. Seemed to be a requirement at one of the small gyms I used to frequent.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  c matt
3 years ago

Yup.

The ex-wife of one of my coworkers had an affair with her fitness instructor, then had a divorce to marry him.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  c matt
3 years ago

Wives having affairs with trainers is common. The trainer is able to physically touch the client at times, breaking down a barrier, and can lead to further intimacy….A man who allows another man that amount of time together with “hands-on” activity is an idiot.

miforest
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

completely false. I have had a trainer for a long time because he keeps me from injuries , overwork and poor techniques. if you can afford one they are worth the money.

B125
B125
Reply to  Reynard
3 years ago

No doubt. Gyms have been closed on and off for over a year in Canada. And there are ALOT of fat people ambling around. It’s starting to look like the Midwest here.

I bought a weight set so I’m still pumping iron at home but it’s not as good. Better than nothing but still way too skinny.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

It might as well end with banning meat because, for many people, life would not be worth living if they had to do without it.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

Add to your list that they will ban the private ownership of cars. Rush’s “Red Barchetta” comes to mind.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  LineInTheSand
3 years ago

That’s an excellent song, one of Rush’s best I’d say.. A few times I’ve wondered how Uncle managed to source petrol and parts for his illegal muscle car in a world where those things no longer existed?

Of course the most unbelievable part is that Uncle would let whipper-snapper nephew drive a priceless treasure!
😀

mmack
mmack
3 years ago

Z man, now do Electric Cars.

This is punishment and putting your ass in its place, peasant! Sumptuary laws writ large. After all, if everybody can have an automobile, a house with air conditioning, heat, televisions and computers, a fridge stocked with burgers and steaks, and a smart phone, then your beliefs are the only thing that separates and elevates you from the rabble.

But merely believing isn’t fun. Punishing the sinners is. And forcing them to convert is even better.

KL
KL
Reply to  mmack
3 years ago

Electric cars need electricity, which is either going to be produced by nuclear, hydropower, or coal (other options are memes). Coal is the easiest option. Coal-to-liquids have existed since the 30s (the Germans used it in WWII), but it is more expensive than oil so it never caught on. It makes more sense just to keep using oil until “peak oil” finally hits (if it ever does), and then switch the coal-to-liquids, and work on improving the technology increase efficiency and reduce the price.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
3 years ago

“The natural corruption in liberal democracy.” Nice turn of phrase. Ominous along with accurate.

Judge Smails
Judge Smails
3 years ago

Don’t knock a cricket and earthworm stir fry until you’ve tried it.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Judge Smails
3 years ago

You guys are inadvertently making a case to convert to Judaism 😀 But in a pinch, even they could be forced to eat locusts (grasshoppers).

usNthem
usNthem
3 years ago

Just like the EV racket, the solar racket, the wind racket, the covid racket, the racism racket, these f**** just don’t know when to quit. The “agenda” keeps getting pushed, the j-media amplifies it endlessly and the leeches attach themselves to suck opportunity and dollars out of the system. Of course we’re told the only moral thing to do is get on board or else.
The equating of intelligence and moral superiority with wealth and influence needs to end. And those forcing the agendas on us aren’t ultimately going like the consequences.

David Wright
Member
3 years ago

Tofu starting to sound pretty good now.

Severian
3 years ago

I’ve been saying since at least the start of Kung Flu hysteria that the goal seems to be a Soviet economy — the official one, where the State can claim the numbers are whatever they want them to be, and the unofficial one, where everyone gets everything on the black market. I even used the “weed man” analogy, though not the way Z does. I mean like the other weed man — imagine stage-whispering “I’ve got a guy,” but for things like haircuts and hamburgers. So long as the parasites can keep those share prices high — and why not,… Read more »

Pickle Rick
Pickle Rick
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

Cattle rustling might make a big comeback!

But you can’t be any geek off the street. Gotta be handy with the steel, if you know what I mean…

Severian
Reply to  Pickle Rick
3 years ago

Where have you gone, Nate Dogg and Warren G, our nation turns its lonely eyes to you… woo woo woo. We need your wisdom now more than ever.

Valley Lurker
Valley Lurker
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

“Just hit the east side of the LBC, on a mission trynna find some grade A prime for me”

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

But is your guy safely masked? Can you use your palm or chip to pay?

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  3g4me
3 years ago

A local homesteader was telling us how she has traded for this, that, or the other thing in exchange for the vegetables she grows. I thought about it for a spell but I couldn’t think of anything that I own that I would trade for a vegetable.

Severian
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
3 years ago

Oh, just give our totally legitimate, not at all fraudulent president another year or two. Veggies, bullets, antibiotics, and booze will be the coin of the realm. It’ll be Beyond Thunderdome, but at least there will be no mean tweets.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

In Covington’s WN novels, the rebels got access to the DC elites by infiltrating black market meat delivery. Meat, and private transportation, was banned but the elites got their meat via a black market. It didn’t end well for them.