Killer Drones

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If you were alive a thousand years ago and decided you wanted to kill the local prince, it meant getting within reach of the prince. You would have to get close enough to stab him with a knife or poison his food. That meant getting past the guards and his retainers who were always with him. For anyone but those with regular access to the prince this was near impossible, which is why political assassinations were almost always a part of palace intrigue or a palace coup.

Ranged weapons changed this math a bit, but the bow was around a thousand years ago and was not a weapon for this type of activity. The reason is bows were primarily for hunting at close range or part of a system for war. The hunter would need to get close to his quarry as bows were not terribly accurate. In war, masses of archers operated a lot like a missile battery. They would fill the sky with arrows using volume to overcome the limited accuracy of the weapon.

The first real innovation in weapons that could be used for assassinations was the crossbow which arrived in the Middle Ages. We know the ancients had crossbows and used them in war, but they were not terribly accurate. The cost made them a weapon of war rather than a tool for private use. The crossbow disappeared from Europe for almost a thousand years, but then reappeared in the tenth century. Technology soon made them cheap and deadly accurate in the right hands.

This is why medieval leaders grew concerned with this weapon and tried to ban their private ownership in some cases. A weapon that a peasant could own and master that would allow him to strike the prince from a distance created a new problem for the ruling class of the time. A couple of angry peasants on the roof tops or even in the crowd could kill the prince. All of a sudden, having guards and a retinue was not enough, so the prince had to be more careful around the peasants.

Of course, we see the same thing happen with firearms. In the 18th century it was not a great weapon for assassinations. If you could get close enough you could kill the prince with a muzzle loader, but you would also be easy to spot. The first widely available firearms were not great for up close work. Pistols started to change this, and technology soon made it possible to conceal a deadly weapon on your person, thus making the assassin a real threat to authority.

Even though the problem was obvious, it took a while for rulers to figure out how to deal with firearms as political weapons. The same is true for things like roadside bombs and bombs delivered through the mail. A hundred years ago anarchists sent bombs to rich people through the mail. Of course, political actors were able to assassinate important people with the use of commonly available firearms. This is no longer an issue, as the ruling class has adapted to this threat.

This may be about to change. The use of FPV drones in the Ukraine war is doing to range weapons what war did for prior weapons. The FPV drone is a First Person Video drone that an operator uses to put an explosive on a target. The drone has a camera so the operator can look through that camera to guide the drone to the target where it explodes upon impact. Two years ago, these did not exist as a practical matter, but now the battlefield is littered with them.

The reason the skies are full of drones in Ukraine is they are cheap to produce and cheap to master. A team of two can become a highly effective weapon on the battlefield with a week of training on the drone. Training men to use million dollars tanks and artillery takes years. The drone is not a replacement for these weapon systems, but they are proving to be a cheap way to increase the combat effectiveness of troops that have the minimum amount of training.

A big part of the drone war is that the soldiers are learning to operate them and also repair them when needed. After the war, millions of men will go back to civilian life knowing how to make a cheap flying bomb they can guide to a target. Tens of thousands of Ukrainian men will come home angry at their politicians or the politicians of Europe about their conduct of the war. In other words, you do not have to be a genius to see the potential downstream consequences of the drone revolution.

For the last fifty years, the West has had to deal with terror attacks, which meant bombs, mass shootings and hijackings. Western elites had largely insulated themselves from assassination, so the only political violence was attacks on civilians. Now that is about to change as the terrorist can fly a bomb through the window of a rich person’s home or into the limousine of an important person. The math of political violence is about to change due to the drone.

History tells us that no one will notice this until a lunatic flies his homemade FPV drone into a government building. Then the security industrial complex will get the money to unriddle the problem. The battlefield will provide a lesson here as well because those soldiers using drones are working on defending against them. Reports suggest the Russians are way ahead on this, but it will not take long before the private sector in the West is working the problem of killer drones.

In the middle of the last century, it was still common to see politicians mixing it up with the people, but that no longer happens. Over time the threat of political violence, despite the rarity, has put the political class behind a wall. Drones will probably put them in a bunker, but it will also put the managerial elite in bunkers too. They will cease to be real people and instead be nothing more than images on our screens. The FPV drone cannot hunt what it cannot see in the wild.

It will also mean new rules to monitor the sale of components used to make drones, like we see with explosives and street drugs. You cannot go into a store and buy certain cold medicines without a note from the state. It will not be long before you must pass a background check to buy a drone. We may even see politicians try to ban assault drones on the grounds that they are weapons of war. It sounds ridiculous, but our rulers think this is a good ad, so nothing is too farfetched.

This thought experiment is a good reminder that war has downstream consequences that no one can foresee. Cheap crossbows were great for waging war, but lots of good crossbowmen in the crowd were not good for the king. The same proved true for other weapons of war. We are about to see the same thing with this war. In the fullness of time, it will be seen as an inflection point and maybe one that makes the economics of the Western ruling system unworkable.


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Barlow
Barlow
5 months ago

Folks, just did a search of all the posts. You are ALL wide of the mark.

Two words: Loitering. Munitions.

Controlled by AI.

That is your future.

DaBears
DaBears
Reply to  Barlow
5 months ago

More words or something: Cop Laser Cruiser. DaLaw.

Controlled by Sheriff AI. “It didn’t pull over and threatened to detonate, my drones WILL be safe.”

sneakn
sneakn
Reply to  DaBears
5 months ago

Cops aren’t smart enough to run and maintain this system. I smell a lucrative government contract. Stop fighting the system, get paid.

White hat >>> Black hat

James Proverbs
James Proverbs
5 months ago

I’ve been to some drone-focused conferences…for non-war means of course, but one point that was easy to see was that the barrier to entry was ridiculously low.
It went from being “new tech”, to the next year you had 100 new “drone companies”, which just meant some guy had a few free $K, an Amazon account, and the mind to (maybe?) create an LLC.
Extrapolating that out to more nefarious ends, yes, it will be very easy for relatively anyone with a 95+ IQ to cause havoc if so wanted.

sneakn
sneakn
Reply to  James Proverbs
5 months ago

I think you need to get outside the DJI ecosystem to be dangerous. The racers have the skills for sure. The long-distance fpv community has been basically play acting this for years. I better get my workshop set up before it gets stupid.

Zaphod
Zaphod
5 months ago

I was frequenting Jakarta in the early 2000s when there was a spate of bombings by returned mujahideen types and random guys who’d discovered Saudi satellite TV and the Internet. Mostly backpack and vehicle-born bombs. It got to the point that arriving at the Jakarta Shangri-la hotel involved driving a zig-zag course through a maze of speed bumps and the piece de resistance was a heavy calibre tripod-mounted machine gun aimed directly along one of the alleys in the maze just in case the entering driver looked a little too fixated upon his pending 72 virgins. But no sniffer dogs… Read more »

My Comment
My Comment
5 months ago

Z raises some good points so I guess we will soon get feds using drones to stimulate a MAGA republican terror attack.

In the meantime I an a fan of drones in that they help level somewhat the War playing field. The Houthis have shown that cheap drones can wreck havoc with the Empire

Nicholas Name
Nicholas Name
5 months ago

Battlefield drones and countermeasures against them is going to be a fast-paced game. It reminds me of the IED threat in Iraq and how the complexity of IEDs and countermeasures increased almost weekly.

It was like the “Spy vs. Spy” comic in Mad Magazine. The Joint IED Defeat Organization (called “Jidao”) actually used that cartoon in their crest.

Guest
Guest
Reply to  Nicholas Name
5 months ago

I always thought the obvious counteraction to the IED threat was to carry prisoners of war with you in vehicles when you traveled through at-risk areas, particularly if you had high-value targets under your supervision. At least that way if they took some of ours they also got some of theirs.

crabe-tambour
crabe-tambour
Reply to  Guest
5 months ago

Reminiscent of Breaker Morant, where the Brits placed Boer PoWs in gondola cars in front of the locomotives as a way of reducing casualties from sabotage. The Calvinist Boers were understandably not keen on blowing up their own, but I can only wonder if a future enemy, like “Our Greatest Ally” just might see some of their own as expendable under the circumstances, though they might not refer to it as the Hannibal Option. Zhukov freely admitted that his forces frequently attacked through German minefields, trading, ahem, casualties for time. Was it HE who said something about quantity having a… Read more »

crabe-tambour
crabe-tambour
Reply to  crabe-tambour
5 months ago

Oops! I forgot to mention that the PoW/hostage tactic ended when Kitchener ordered (verbally) that Boer prisoners be summarily executed. Which might have continued until war’s end except for the inconvenient murder of a Lutheran pastor who got wind of the policy from an interaction with some doomed prisoners.

Jerome
Jerome
Reply to  crabe-tambour
5 months ago

Always a good idea to get your history from movies.

Very reliable.

Also your ability to hear conversations involving a dead Kitchener and a dead pastor. Literally incredible.

Nicholas Name
Nicholas Name
Reply to  Guest
5 months ago

Good idea that was often discussed in-county, but it violated about a dozen articles of the Law of Armed Conflict (LOAC). Regardless of your or my opinion of LOAC, the policy makers stuck to it and willful violators got destroyed. Also, I was doing offensive operations around the famous Abu Gharab prison in 03-04, and Haji (the bad guys) dropped mortar rounds on that place every night. Most of the prisoners lived in tents and were regularly blown away by their friends (to our great amusement). My point is that human shields don’t work on Haji. That said, the few… Read more »

Cymry Dragon
Cymry Dragon
Reply to  Nicholas Name
5 months ago

Ha! Two USNS ships i operated with back in my 1970s EOD days used the white and black spy cartoons on their crests. The Harkness and Chauvenet. Underneath was the caption “We are NOT a spy ship”. They were of course.

Whiskey
Whiskey
5 months ago

Drones have had an incredible effect on Outdoor channels on YT. For example, non-controversial “Sidetrack Adventures” has shots that beat the old Huell Howser “California’s Gold” etc. stuff that ran on KCET for years. All because the guy has cheap drones and and a cheap HD camera on the drones and some cheap video editing software. You have guys on YT (almost always guys) doing content that rivals and beats professional stuff. For example, Fortnine on YT does for motorcycles what Top Gear under Clarkson did for cars. Networks and studios are in competition not with each other but a… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Whiskey
5 months ago

The cartels have to, or have already had to, establish business relationships with aino officials to keep the heat off. Lest their violence north of the border provoke some kind of military retaliation. That allegation of Katie Hobbs and Co. being on the take from the Sinaloa Cartel went down the memory hole real quick didn’t it. What I’m getting at is cartel activity north of the border will expand in proportion to how insulated they are by these relationships. They won’t act rashly in provoking aino’s “leaders,” they never have. It is always about the bottom line for them.

Whiskey
Whiskey
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
5 months ago

Ah but Cartels fracture. Katie Hobbs may have made “deals” with one faction, but there is always another. Mexico is not short of violent, ambitious men who would like to lead THEIR faction in looting. This certainly has been the experience in Mexico where various factions square off and hold entire cities hostage until enough loot has been paid. The ease in which weapons and manpower can be accumulated in Mexico means any “deal” is temporary and can be revoked by new players entering. This is likely what happened in Israel with Hamas. The Israelis leaders thought they had a… Read more »

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Whiskey
5 months ago

Did anybody catch the recent story about the Central American aboriginals [the “Cartels”] transporting the fentanyl up to Montana [at least 1300 miles north of the border, and 1300 miles for the return trip back to Mexico, totalling at least 2600 miles per trip], in order to make addicts of all the North American aboriginals on the reservations? The persistently inevitably eternally omnipotent power of Passive Aggression – its dissembling & duplicitousness & disingenuousness – its perfidy – is absolutely mesmerizing, and it manifests itself at all IQ levels; it seems to exist largely independent of intelligence. It’s like watching… Read more »

pantoufle
pantoufle
5 months ago

Always read that they outlawed the crossbow not because it was an assassin’s weapon but simply because the thing shot a bolt with incredible, armour-piercing force. The knights were not happy.

Ploppy
Ploppy
5 months ago

Well call me old fashioned but I prefer the elites being pulled down into an angry mob and flayed alive.

pantoufle
pantoufle
Reply to  Ploppy
5 months ago

The last few years I have been feeling a lot of false nostalgia on this very point.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Ploppy
5 months ago

Yes, when I was just a wee spark, we didn’t have things like drones and digital cameras. No siree bob! When we wanted to marbleize some nabob or panjandrum, we had to sneak up on ’em on a cold, rainy, dark night, grab them by their spats, yank them out of their Duesenbergs, gouge out their eyes, rip out their throats, and yank off their gonads with our bare hands! And we LIKED it!

ray
ray
5 months ago

Whoops looks like I Offended, I am now being moderated.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  ray
5 months ago

I like your posts ray, so no offense intended, but you are paranoid. Moderation happens by the software from time to time. Keywords can often set it off. Don’t take it personally unless it’s stated otherwise.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
5 months ago

I’d like to think anyone smart enough to construct and operate such a device in the US is also smart enough to know it wouldn’t affect the blob in the least…but would just hurry up along a police state.

A pie drone would be fun. Pie Guy throwing a pie in Bill Gates face was pretty funny.

The Pie Drone. Some people hate being mocked more than anything.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  ProZNoV
5 months ago

If he believes he can do it with impunity he might still give it a whirl. A la Uncle Ted

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  ProZNoV
5 months ago

The pie is the slow-mo moment in Gates’s supervillain origin movie. He didn’t mind being dragged out of his goon cave to testify to congress, etc., but being made subject for the first and only time in his life to the judgment of some regular doofus—*that* made him decide to enslave and kill us all.

pantoufle
pantoufle
Reply to  ProZNoV
5 months ago

Hmmm, the possibilities …

Dropping blood-red paint balls on Vicky Nuland (easy target) or Hillary (“We came, we saw, he died”) Clinton (another large target) in the middle of a speech would provide some satisfying visual symbolism alright.

Ivan
Ivan
5 months ago

“History tells us that no one will notice this until a lunatic flies his homemade FPV drone into a government building.”

Shrub & Co. pulled it off with commercial aircraft and started a +20 year Holy War. Maybe the current psychopaths aim is to continue that with the aforementioned FPV.

c matt
c matt
5 months ago

In the middle of the last century, it was still common to see politicians mixing it up with the people, but that no longer happens.

I hear Assad does this on occasion. But he is fighting to protect his people rather than rape them.

Epaminondas
Member
5 months ago

Don’t give the Kagan Cult any ideas. I’m sure they will be thinking about this in regard to their nemisis, Orange Man.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
5 months ago

Kind of casts 15 minute cities and billionaire bugout bunkers in a whole new light doesn’t it? As well as making “traditional” firearms obsolescent, so that it’s not such an imperative to “come and take them.”

The emerging techno apartheid would indeed function great in a white or east asian society. Tough break for the regime that there is no longer any such thing as the former.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
5 months ago

Anyone else remember the super drone incident in Tucson back in 2021 when a mystery drone toyed with, then dusted a police helicopter during a night chase?

https://dronedj.com/2021/06/23/update-tucson-copter-cop-says-mysterious-sophisticated-super-drone-like-no-other/

My guess is that drone was sent by the cartels, or PLA special operators embedded with the cartels.

rr2v
rr2v
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
5 months ago

All kinds of weirdness…from back home a couple years ago.

https://archive.ph/GzRga

Of note in the area are the underground missile silos controlled out of Cheyenne, WY.

Zaphod
Zaphod
Reply to  rr2v
5 months ago

Silo hatches. Hinges. Thermite.

pantoufle
pantoufle
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
5 months ago

Wasn’t there was a “mystery drone” incident at Heathrow a few years back? The thing was large enough to be a concern and a whole lot of flights were messed up.

And the funniest part was the authorities were helpless. I can’t remember the details, but for some reason they couldn’t simply take it down with shotguns and the cops had no drones of their own (amazingly for the UK cops, those busy bodies).

PM
PM
Reply to  pantoufle
5 months ago

Gatwick, rather than Heathrow, as I recall: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gatwick_Airport_drone_incident.

But yes, they shut down the entire airport, and not without reason. Somewhere on the internet there’s slo-mo footage of a wing section coming apart in a test chamber after impact with a small commercial drone.

Redpill Boomer
Redpill Boomer
5 months ago

I work for a video security company that is investigating adding an anti-drone product line. We’ve discovered that the Feds have severe restrictions one who can fly a drone where. Essentially if you want to use one outside your own property, you’re supposed to get a drone operator’s license. Ostensibly that’s for reasons of air traffic safety, but I think you’ve hit upon the real reason for these restriction.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Redpill Boomer
5 months ago

And, like gun laws, the lawless will ignore those laws.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Epaminondas
5 months ago

yeah that sounds like declaring someplace a gun free zone

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Epaminondas
5 months ago

One can only hope…

ron west
ron west
Reply to  Redpill Boomer
5 months ago

Depends on the weight of the drone. Under 150g, no registration required. DJI has a few drones that weigh 149g.

Guest
Guest
5 months ago
roo_ster
Member
5 months ago

I was in the Radio control aircraft Hobby for a few years when first person view became a thing. I could buy componentry for a scratch built fixed wing Radio control aircraft for about $50 and reuse it on several aircraft . Fpv was too expensive for my tastes, but nowadays it is pretty cheap. Z is correct in that all the component tree can be bought cheap enough. The government is doing its level best to run the hobby out of existence with increased regulation. Allegedly this was at the behest of commercial interests that want to use drones… Read more »

Eloi
Eloi
5 months ago

Richard the Lionheart was killed with a peasant’s crossbow shot. He was amused – until the bolt struck home.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Eloi
5 months ago

The incident you refer to occurred during an assault on a castle Richard claimed in Normandy. And to his credit, Richard would not allow his men to take vengeance on the soldier who shot him as it happened in the course of a fair fight. Richard took responsibility for the assault, and for his own mortal wound. They don’t make many leaders like that any more.

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  Epaminondas
5 months ago

Yeah, but then that mercenary leader had the kid flayed against Richard’s pardon. The mercenary leader lived a cool life, including serving the legendary Eleanor of Aquitaine.

Gauss
Gauss
5 months ago

“… no one will notice this until a lunatic flies his homemade FPV drone into a government building.” Not quite true. I attended a conference on sensors in 2018 and all anyone talked about was the threat from drones exactly as discussed in this post. I know it was 2018 because the 10 millionth patent had just been awarded to Raytheon for a laser radar sensor; the inventor was present at the conference. The military-industrial complex was fully engaged in this problem. That’s not to say that there’s any effective work going on but they definitely noticed long before Ukraine… Read more »

Redpill Boomer
Redpill Boomer
Reply to  Gauss
5 months ago

You’re totally correct. See my comment above.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Gauss
5 months ago

And who is Z calling a “lunatic”?

Krustykurmudgeon
Krustykurmudgeon
5 months ago

Is it possible that the “America as international shopping mall” phenomena was inevitable?

When I think of Americana I think of rockabilly music, cool cars and drag racing, drive-ins, route 66. Kind of like the stuff you’ll see in the inside of a famous Dave’s.

But is it possible that an identity like that actually leaves you defenseless against becoming an international shopping mall?

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Krustykurmudgeon
5 months ago

I’m gonna say everybody having cars, and a good road system to drive them on, was a necessary first step to being an international shopping mall. It’s not as if people in 3rd world countries don’t like stuff. They just don’t have such a convenient way to go get it, or for it to be brought to them.

Clayton Barnett
5 months ago

“…retreat to a bunker.”

Good. We will have then successfully “frozen and isolated” our target. Hope they have a generator and a shitload of food in there, ’cause anyone coming in or out dies.

TomA
TomA
5 months ago

First some necessary and useful insight with respect to Ukraine. Zelensky was elected on a platform of seeking peace with Russia and ending the slaughter of innocents in the Donbass. He betrayed those promises and became a pawn of Western neocons and Bandera loyalists. This led to war and the deaths of at least a half million average Ivans who were duped into fighting for a lost cause. They would likely all be alive today (not to mention all the associated wounded, displaced, and infrastructure destruction) if someone with a drone had targeted the root of the problem. One simple… Read more »

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  TomA
5 months ago

“our politicians”

They aren’t “ours.” They are The Help and whores for the ruling class.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  TomA
5 months ago

Because survival is not our highest priority at the moment…It is still comfort and shekels and will.be until we are forced out of it…

pantoufle
pantoufle
Reply to  TomA
5 months ago

With all due respect: how would killing little Z change anything?

He would be replaced overnight. With someone selected by the same masters.

It is similar to the fundamental US problem Zman has analyzed so many times: voting harder makes no difference. One carney grifter is simply replaced with another. Even if he new guy is not a grifter, he will soon be brought around to complying with “how things are done around here.”

TomA
TomA
Reply to  pantoufle
5 months ago

Repetition until no one is fool enough to wear the hat anymore. Even better, emergent behavior will likely kick in at some point and the pathogens will flee the host rather than perish. That beach house in Miami purchased with embezzled US foreign aid will begin to look mighty tempting.

Jaakko Raipala
Jaakko Raipala
5 months ago

They’re way ahead of you. Civilian drones now have obligatory remote id and other surveillance features. These days you can just get an app for your smartphone that will detect all civilian drones flying anywhere close to you. The POTUS is always surrounded by an electronically enforced no-fly-zone. In Ukraine they have specialists hacking drones to disable their safety features and only then they get used by the soldiers. An angry peasant can’t just buy a drone from the shop, strap explosives on it and fly it to the White House. The state already reduced the threat to a small… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Jaakko Raipala
5 months ago

“IMO the level of political violence is currently low because politicians are just replacable parts of the system now.” That’s a profound point. It also would indicate the would-be assassins know the politician is simply window dressing, which they very well may realize. Still, to maintain the charade people have to LARP as leaders and state thugs, and if they are fearful of a drone attack that might chill the desire to do so. I’m pretty sure you are right that Those Who Matter have no such fears personally although they need puppets and want to pay them as little… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Jack Dobson
5 months ago

The Sopranos made a similar point in the early 00s when a couple made guys tried to collect protection from the local Starbucks franchise:

https://youtu.be/_Gsz7Gu6agA

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
5 months ago

Ha, spot on. I guess the bright spot is sociopaths probably are being replaced with rank idiots who still think they matter.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  thezman
5 months ago

Good points…But historically, the bow was quite accurate in expert hands, with much greater range than the crossbow, as the English demonstrated repeatedly against the French….The Iceman, 7500 years ago, was killed by a bow shot at long range, so difficult that Italian Olympians could not duplicate it… Likewise, while the muskets used by armies in the 18th century had very limited range of 50-75 yards, the Kentucky rifle was used to kill British General Simon Fraser at 300 yards by Daniel Morgan’s rifle corps…Napoleon lost at Waterloo in part because he couldn’t match a British rifle equipped unit….. The… Read more »

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  pyrrhus
5 months ago

and may well cause other problems

It must since the Russians do not deploy their jamming gear universally (radio communication difficulty?).

PM
PM
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
5 months ago

A small part of the Military Summary update for today was a report of a man-portable jamming system: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gzsOEwXu2AI

Nicholas Name
Nicholas Name
Reply to  pyrrhus
5 months ago

The problem with jamming is that it is broadcasting, therefore an easy target. There are ways to mitigate this, but it quickly turns into something like the old “Spy vs. Spy” comic.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  thezman
5 months ago

Yeah, forget some showy killing of a politician. Something more akin Ireland’s “The Troubles” would be far more effective. The managerial class has a glass jaw. They can give a punch, but they can’t take one. That’s the thing about our foreign ruling elite and their managerial class. They have no deep base. They have law enforcement because they pay the bills and cops like having nice pensions. But there’s no loyalty there, nothing that holds them together like ethnicity or religion or even culture. If local cops sensed that the local population wasn’t going to take being pushed around,… Read more »

pantoufle
pantoufle
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
5 months ago

I can imagine things reaching that point pretty easily. Particularly where you sheriffs and smaller police forces. These guys tend to be part of the community. When there is a crack down and major violence, some of the victims could well be friends or family of cops. In cop brains the wheels begin to turn and questions of loyalty arise. And, as you wrote, survival vs the pension.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  thezman
5 months ago

Just so. Rhetorical survey question for the DR:

Who would you rather see vaporized? :
A. Joe Biden
B. George Soros

Case closed.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Jaakko Raipala
5 months ago

Home-built drones can utilize a $10 Raspberry Pi for control interface and lots of open source software abounds which is denuded of security and spying features. This is not a serious impediment. Also, autonomous variants are capable of operating without remote interface and utilize image recognition or terminal homing methods which can defeat most ECM. And we haven’t even scratched the surface of outside-the-box creative thinking, which is the hallmark of those now despised nerdy white guys. Don’t fall for the despair propaganda. Drones are a real game-changer.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  TomA
5 months ago

Good post.

I would only add that it is now possible to crank out good quality plastic parts in small quantities on several models of readily available 3D printers.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Jaakko Raipala
5 months ago

“There would be no point at all in assassinating Joe Biden.”

True, but assassinating Trump would, indeed, have a profound effect.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Epaminondas
5 months ago

Sometimes I think that’s the only reason it hasn’t been done. Introduces too many unforeseeable variables, too much potential chaos

Woodpecker
Woodpecker
Reply to  Jaakko Raipala
5 months ago

> be no point at all in assassinating Joe Biden

Exactly. Saddam Hussein was famously said to have employed body doubles, but that’s because Iraq was a small, poor country. In the prosperous West, we are able to afford an entire decoy political system.

Outdoorspro
Outdoorspro
5 months ago

I’ve been an RC aircraft hobbiest for a few years. Used to be 3D helicopters, but now just planes. I’m fascinated by drones, but not as a hobby. I just like flying proper aircraft. Anyhoo, every single part, servo, motor, transmitter, etc is available right now for cash, at hobby stores all over the world. If you really want to be alarmed by this tech, spend some time on Youtube watching what the advid hobbiests are doing for fun. Swarming light shows, precision flight races (indoors and out), heavy lifting, speed (fancier rich-expert level stuff can have multiple turbine engines),… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Outdoorspro
5 months ago

How fast are the jet remote controlled planes? They look cool as all hell.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
5 months ago

I’ve only seen the fast RC power boats, but those are quite cool in their own right.

Outdoorspro
Outdoorspro
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
5 months ago

Some of the faster RC jets are hitting Mach 1. There’s no limitations in the physics of it–just a matter of scale and materials. Precision and tolerance for extremely high-energy performance has typically be a major limiting factor for small-scale models. But as tech develops and the smart people who build these things (many of them engineers themselves) get better, most limits are reduced. Add to this the huge shift in power to weight ratio…

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Outdoorspro
5 months ago

Back in the early 70s my dad used to build and race gas-powered Jerobee RC cars. Those machines were so cool, and it took plenty of skill to “drive” them. Alas, it seems Jerobees haven’t been manufactured in quite some time, and the survivors appear to be pretty scarce.

rr2v
rr2v
Reply to  Outdoorspro
5 months ago

Same goes for (forgive my wording, I’m no expert) “hacking” type gadgets. I stumbled on the Flipper Zero and boy is that a rabbit hole of widgets that seem like they could be way more “useful” than a a traditional weapon…

Al in Georgia
Al in Georgia
Reply to  Outdoorspro
5 months ago

A few months ago, I watched a demonstration of a large drone that is used to spray ag chemicals, pesticides and herbicides. It was about the size of an office desk and had a 100 gallon tank. It can apply ag chemicals in a very precise manner.

A machine like this, in the wrong hands could do great damage in many ways. Drones are not just small machines that we are accustomed to.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Al in Georgia
5 months ago

Or, in the right hands, it could do great damage in many ways…

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Outdoorspro
5 months ago

And I’m guessing the vast majority of these hobbyists are white guys, just as it was with Estes rockets back in the 50s, 60s, and 70s. Good to know there are still some white guys with real mechanical know-how. Hopefully they’re not all septuagenarians and up.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
5 months ago

Related:

Somehow an elaborate network of drone sensors that can track a gnat’s ass a kilometer away can be built in Ukraine:

https://www.twz.com/land/thousands-of-networked-microphones-are-tracking-drones-in-ukraine

Yet, nothing can be done about the US-Mexico border.

Seems totally legit.

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
5 months ago

There was a high school kid who developed drones to assist Emergency workers and to help remove bomb threats. He also developed drones that he proposed be used to police the border. He has a company. I can’t find it readily. He was a huge Trump/MAGA guy. Of course you also have Palmer Luckey, inventor of the Oculus, starting Anduril after being cancelled by Facebook. He is positioning himself as the guy in modern warfare and privatization. You have the asian guy in New York also doing the same thing. Eric Schmidt the psychopath is starting a kamikaze drone company… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  RealityRules
5 months ago

RR-

There are huge opportunities i wlectronic warfare, but human STEM capital in the US is so degraded I question whether or not we could catch up with the Russians.

BigJimSportCamper
BigJimSportCamper
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
5 months ago

But, but…all those dot H1Bs!!!

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  BigJimSportCamper
5 months ago

Won’t work. The Fed’s are pretty hot on not allowing foreign nationals to work on defense grants. Indeed, just before I left the dept all hell broke loose when a prof in TN got 4 years for allowing foreign student workers access to his grant project. We had to move equipment, create secure networks and change room assignments. Such was the fear created.

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
5 months ago

Yes. But the potential opportunities also exist for our folk to rekindle the same ground that 17th – early 20th century Britain, France, Germany and America had for innovation. Tinkerers and prodigies playing with little money in their garage inventing far more things of far higher impact than most of the last part of the 20th century. There is even innovation in distributed networks and cloud computing that is out of the hands and lower cost than the Big 3 cloud providers. We just need to embrace the entrepreneurial spirit and ethos of our recent ancestors. I do think the… Read more »

KGB
KGB
Reply to  RealityRules
5 months ago

Thank you. We need more white pills. Europeans have traditionally been the most forward thinking of the human races. To constantly focus on the negative runs counter to our biology.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  RealityRules
5 months ago

My local library, 30 miles north of Zee’s old lair has free how-to classes for 3d design and will rent printer time.

Tarl Cabot
Tarl Cabot
5 months ago

Drones really are a game changer. They have rendered the main battle tank obsolete, and soon, I believe, the aircraft carrier. Tactical surprise is now virtually impossible to achieve for any unit above company scale, maybe even platoon scale. We are basically back to WW1, where the advantage is on defense. The blitzkrieg era is officially over.

The first 15 minute cities will be Cloud enclaves, protected by ECM (that will also make them seem cool to Dirts). At this point, we’re just waiting for “Oswald”.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Tarl Cabot
5 months ago

Aircraft carriers have been obsolete for a long time. The only reason they remain afloat is because we have not gone to war against an opponent possessing the means of sinking them. Hypersonic missiles have made surface vessels an anachronism.

Dr_Mantis_tobbogan_MD
Member
Reply to  Tarl Cabot
5 months ago

I would not consider tanks or aircraft carriers obsolete because you can’t put a 120mm gun on a drone. That sort of destructive, relatively cheap (a 120 mm shell is much cheaper than a missile and even a drone, depending on what kind it is) firepower is essential to supporting infantry operations. Drones are cheap and effective, but they aren’t going to be very effective against hardened targets like Ukraine has built for years using our tax dollars. Nothing kills a concrete bunker as effectively or cheaply like a 120mm shell. Warfare is a series of measure-countermeasure. Tanks were checked… Read more »

Tom K
Tom K
5 months ago

What’s changed the last year or so is AI. AI added to drones makes them much more lethal. When the operator spots a target the drone is directed downward toward the target. But then the operator usually loses radio contact the last few seconds because of obstructions on the ground. That’s when AI steps in and continues to the designated target. Without AI the drone might miss by a few meters. Anyway, that’s my current understanding. Not only politicians will be at risk. Drones have already been spotted in restricted airspace around major airports. What happens when swarming software becomes… Read more »

Outdoorspro
Outdoorspro
Reply to  Tom K
5 months ago

Have you ever seen the “fireworks” drone displays? Videos are all over the regular sites. That swarming software is already out there and currently being mastered.

I can’t help but feel that something significant is coming soon…

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Outdoorspro
5 months ago

Remember the weird fleets of drones in the middle of many Colorado and Nebraska summer nights a few years back?

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Outdoorspro
5 months ago

This was from five years ago so I’m sure we are way beyond that now…ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7mIX_0VK4g add the h again…

Jack Boniface
Jack Boniface
Member
5 months ago

A lot of those mad Ukrainian men are over here, too, already — especially the Banderists in Canada.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
5 months ago

There will be myriad electronic jammers in public buildings in the future because of the emerging drone threat. For priority targets probably emp generators. Various computer controlled volley shooters and maybe shotguns will also be used. And the rules surrounding drones will be expanded. I think there will be minimum sizes for privately owned drones so you can’t fly a bumblebee sized charge into Bill Gates’ bedroom. Titanium screens in windows in the summer. OTOH, in the future police will send a small drone in the future. This could turn the public space into something far more suffocating than it… Read more »

Harbinger
Harbinger
5 months ago

The battlefield will provide a lesson here as well because those soldiers using drones are working on defending against them. Counter-UAS has been a priority in defense for years now, and the key buzzword is “swarm”. DoD is showering contractors such as my humble employer with boatloads of cash to adapt existing products to detect drone swarms and provide fire control for countermeasures. But this only works on the battlefield or over open seas. A drone swarm that materializes over a crowd of people in a populated area cannot (yet) be countered without risking an unacceptable number of casualties. A… Read more »

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
5 months ago

Biden to a mix of black males: ” what’s you doing these days”

Cringe factor: blew the scale

I couldn’t watch it

Nick Nolte's Mugshot
Nick Nolte's Mugshot
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
5 months ago

America owes a debt of graditude to Corn Pop for molding Biden into the exemplar of character that each and every US citizen can proudly call “my President”.

pantoufle
pantoufle
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
5 months ago

“Come on man! If you don’t vote for Biden, you ain’t black!”

And in fact are most likely a species of Lying Dog-Faced Pony Soldier.

Let’s be honest: I for one am going to miss Biden. He has provided endless amusement.

Pozymandias
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
5 months ago

Still doesn’t top Hillary’s hilarious and infamous “Black preacher singing” when she was talking to that group of blacks. She did everything but eat watermelon and brandish a fried chicken drumstick at them.

Lineman
Lineman
5 months ago

Propaganda will still be the best defense the (((elite))) will have at keeping themselves safe from drones our anything else for that matter…. As long as they can keep people fearful and discouraged then they will continue to rule over us…ttps://youtu.be/SPyb1pV4VEw. add an h to the front of this…

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
5 months ago

“It will also mean new rules to monitor the sale of components used to make drones, like we see with explosives and street drugs. You cannot go into a store and buy certain cold medicines without a note from the state. It will not be long before you must pass a background check to buy a drone. We may even see politicians try to ban assault drones on the grounds that they are weapons of war.” Drone operators fresh out of military service will concern them most particularly because it seems these are not difficult weapons to use. If you… Read more »

Barnard
Barnard
5 months ago

Hilarious video of Biden serving the black guy and his boys take out fried chicken. I assume it is not aimed at blacks but good whites who desperately want to believe that situation is not a major outlier in the black family. That is an ad a Bush or Romney consultant would have cooked up. Frank Luntz has probably watched it 100 times already out of jealousy.

Geo. Orwell
Geo. Orwell
Reply to  Barnard
5 months ago

Sheesh. And elites wonder why stereotypes persist!

Boarwild
Boarwild
Reply to  Geo. Orwell
5 months ago

Yeah – & did they forget the watermelon? :<D

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Barnard
5 months ago

Now that they’ve saturated the advertising world with images of upstanding Negros and their coal burning wives, it seems like they’ve moved on to pushing the fairy tale of generational black families, headed by jovial, wise grandfathers. Not only is this at odds with all observable data, but notice that they’re fine with showing a partriarchal black family when they would be very reluctant to do the same with whites.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Barnard
5 months ago

Man, that’s great.

Nicholas Name
Nicholas Name
Reply to  Barnard
5 months ago

Biden: “Your dad would take a bullet for you.”

Kid: “That’s my dad?”

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Nicholas Name
5 months ago

Did Biden suggest that joggers are prone to gun violence? Gosh, that’s a dog whistle if I ever heard one.

Charles Haywood
5 months ago

The classic crossbow assassination was William Tell’s of Albrecht Gessler.

Walrus Aurelius
5 months ago

Will be interesting to see what kind of new comms tech the elite will start using to counteract the limitations of drone countermeasures for using anything modern.

I almost like the idea of a low-tech elite, used to centuries old amusements and solutions to doing things, ruling over a tech-obsessed lower class with all kinds of modern gizmos. Maybe there’s a story idea in there.

usNthem
usNthem
5 months ago

We’ve got multitudes of politicians at all levels who could be potential targets. But despite the zillions of firearms everywhere, the only ones seemingly at risk are us dirt people – and wildlife. I’ll believe it when I see it – some big name politico get bumped – and then the hammer will really drop. Society is too comfortable and too weak and surveillance is everywhere…

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  usNthem
5 months ago

usNthem: The ubiquity of the surveillance state is what seems to make any future action – even against a low-level bureaucrat – almost impossible. Traffic cameras, private business security cameras, cell phone cameras. I wouldn’t know how to begin to calculate what vectors could possible avoid coverage and detection. I’ve suggested, in the past, a two volume fiction tale which includes a grass-roots uprising against the state, where various private citizens begin killing irs agents or other federal/state/county bureaucrats who’ve made people’s lives hell (The Bonner Incident by Thomas A. Watson). Make the average Joe and Karen fear for their… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  3g4me
5 months ago

Yet in the face of all that, all kinds of crime continues to go unpunished and maybe half of murders, if that, are ever punished

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
5 months ago

Yeah, but the majority of murders are black on black and nobody much cares. Further, most violent crime of all types are committed by blacks, much of which is punished by a relative slap on the wrist. If it were Whites largely representing the violent criminal class, overzealous prosecution would be the norm.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
5 months ago

Maybe the surveillance isn’t as ubiquitous and effective as some make it out to be.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
5 months ago

Ostei, I tend to believe the information gathering surveillance apparatus is highly effective at what it does, however, it requires humans to see and to act on the information it provides, without whom it is nothing. It is the humans that are the weak link.

JG
JG
5 months ago

I recall that video of the Russian conscript lying in a shallow trench/crater making the sign of the cross before a bomblet got dropped on him. Everyone thought it was so cool. That is until you or your kid is the one about to get yeeted into oblivion.

Member
5 months ago

I’m sure one of the Left’s modern versions of John Brown, the fanatical abolitionist murderer and terrorist funded by the “Secret Six”, is cooking up some drone fun to unleash in the reboot of Harpers Ferry and the summer of 1859. Odds are it will be a troon, because Clown World.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
5 months ago

My one thought was that elites better get used to not having any cell service as they’ll always have to be under some signal-jamming umbrella.

Federalist
Federalist
5 months ago

Happy Mardi Gras!

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Federalist
5 months ago

And a blessed Ash Wednesday to those who observe. But I have to say, given the state of our world, I’m not in the mood for further sacrifices.