A Price For Everything

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A tenet of the old right was that some things are too important to a society to be subjected to the crucible of reason. Traditions, for example, not only bind people to their ancestors, but to one another in the shared understanding of the past. Treating traditions as mere superstition inevitably leads to their abandonment and the loss of their associated social capital. A society without tradition and history is a temporary, ad hoc collection of deracinated individuals.

Reason is not just questioning and demanding proof. The marketplace is a manifestation of reason in the exchange of goods and services. Sellers compete with one another to attract buyers. Buyers compete with one another through the mechanism of price in order to determine the best good or service. Reason states that if you have a competitive and open market, you end up with the best products and services winning over those of lesser quality or higher price.

The old right would agree to the theory behind open market economies but point out that some things are too important to subject to the market. The moral claims of a society, for example, should not be up for bid. The marketplace would no doubt decide that slavery in certain areas is the superior option, as it has for all of human history, but we have decided that owning other humans is immoral. Therefore, we do not make this moral claim subject to the crucible of the marketplace.

We are getting a real-world glimpse of this with regards to the war in Ukraine which the Western managerial elite insist is a moral crusade. Helping Ukraine, they say, is proof that we worship the god called democracy. The Munich Security Conference just ended and speaker after speaker insisted that the god of democracy demands we empty our wallets to help Ukraine. The Danish prime minister went so far as to say that the West must give all of its weapons to Ukraine.

No one really knows, because the cause is too important to waste time on accounting, but the West has supplied Ukraine with weapons and money in amounts many times more than Russia is committing to the war. Hundreds of billions have been given to Ukraine with hundreds more lent though various contrivances. The sorts of people who perform at events like the Munich Security Conference are fond of talking about how the arsenal of democracy is going to save Ukraine.

The trouble is the weapons supplied to Ukraine have not made much of a difference and in many cases have been worthless. French supplied armored vehicles are nothing more than expensive death traps. British Challenger tanks are great on the parade route but unsuitable for actual combat. The German Leopard tanks were sitting ducks against Russian artillery in the summer offensive. Despite the economic advantages, Western weapons have not made much of a difference.

The reason gets back to the tenet of the old right. There is a story in the German tabloid Bild that takes a look at how Germany is supplying armored vehicles. Instead of producing or selecting vehicles best suited for the war, it is an elaborate financial scam that profits the arms dealers and their foreign suppliers but results in expensive and poorly suited vehicles to Ukraine. The German taxpayer is paying three- and four-times retail for equipment that is useless in the war.

To give some perspective, the Russians probably spend the equivalent of one hundred thousand dollars for an armored vehicle. The Germans are paying six hundred thousand dollars, but for the wrong sort of vehicle. This is a pattern that repeats across the Western supply chain to Ukraine. Either suppliers see a chance to unload useless junk at inflated prices or their top-line equipment, in the case of Western tanks, is proving to be ill-suited for the actual fighting.

The Russians, meanwhile, work from that old right tenet. Some things, like fighting land wars on their border, are too important to be subjected to the marketplace. There is competition within the Russian military industrial base, but the winners are not picked by the invisible hand of the marketplace. They are picked by the demands of the military for the situations they are facing. One reason Russian arms tend to be simple compared to American arms, is the military doctrine of the Russians.

It is tempting to think this old right idea applies only to something narrow like war fighting, but war fighting is a consequence of other factors. After the Cold War, the Russians did not embark on a process to ship their manufacturing base to low-cost countries as happened in the West. One reason for that is the Russians do not make profit the singular goal of their society. They set about modernizing their manufacturing base and now they are reaping the rewards.

This is a pattern we see all over the West. Open borders, like slavery in the ancient world, are profitable for society, but it erodes the social capital. It attacks the customs and habits of the people, the things that bind them together as a people. Once you have monetized the social capital of the people and carried it off to vaults in New York, it is no longer available when the crisis comes. It turns out that national borders should not be subject to the crucible of reason.

The crisis surrounding Ukraine, and make no mistake that crisis is spilling over into the West now, is a microcosm for what awaits the West. The reason for that is Western managerial elites turned their societies into for-profit enterprises. The decision point in every matter is whether it profits the managerial elite. Even the abrogation of ancient rights is merely a defense of the bottom line. It turns out that when everything has a price, nothing has value, not even your society.


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streamfortyseven
7 months ago

The US only got in a war with Germany in World War II, because Germany, under the Axis Pact, declared war on the US on December 11, 1941. The morning after, the America First movement ceased to exist, as did the Deutsche-Amerikanische Bund. The American Communist Party continued to support Germany, until Hitler invaded the USSR, and they changed their position instantly – on orders from the Comintern. There are two reasons to support Ukraine – the notion that nations have the duty to defend their sovereign borders (the southern border with Mexico is no exception), and that it’s easier… Read more »

miforest
miforest
Reply to  thezman
7 months ago

https://frankwright.substack.com/p/an-unthinkable-peace this is a good summary of zelenski and netanyahu’s plans .
A 2023 report from the Oakland Institute revealed much of Ukraine’s productive land has been bought up by corporations such as Vanguard and Goldman Sachs – following a land reform law passed by Zelensky which allowed this foreign investment.

Chipolini
Chipolini
7 months ago

“The War in Ukraine” – a nice joke. The only thing that has been happening, very actively since 2020, is optimizing the forced transition to a new (global) technological order. Everyone is involved. For a little peep, check out this one a unique perspective on Tucker’s interview with Putin (backed up with all the necessary sources). I mean, there really is nowhere else to meet it, backed up by the necessary factual justification. In case you are interested in more details, scroll down and review the next comments of the same person. This, for example (recommend). And I argue that… Read more »

Chipolini
Chipolini
Reply to  Chipolini
7 months ago

Put this way: what the forces in Russia (oligarchs + state) were doing even before the plandemic, has intensified much under the pretext of plandemic (absolutely the whole great reset narrative has been repeated by the Russian authorities, which continues), but it is just running enormously more, under the pretext of “fighting sanctions”, “to ensure technological sovereignty”, etc. And this is, as Putin’s favorite phrase goes: “the transition to a new technological basis” (sometimes a “new technological order”), which represents a radical transformation of society, by introducing all the anti-hymanistic technologies you can think of, the same ones that the… Read more »

David Davenport
David Davenport
7 months ago

“To give some perspective, the Russians probably spend the equivalent of one hundred thousand dollars for an armored vehicle. The Germans are paying six hundred thousand dollars, but for the wrong sort of vehicle.”

What vehicles are you talking about? Name them. Be specific.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  David Davenport
7 months ago

What is your underlying purpose in asking? Be specific.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  David Davenport
7 months ago

The point is that Russia, and China, pays pennies on the dollar for equivalently capable of not simply superior weapons systems which ensures that we will go bankrupt before they do

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  David Davenport
7 months ago

His numbers are off, but the thought is on target. Why are you being pedantic? German Puma– $17.14 Million per unit
Russian BMP-2– $300,000
Just to name two.

Feel better now Karen?

miforest
miforest
Reply to  Apex Predator
7 months ago

he seems like a troll to me . but thanks for the info. BTW the drone the huthies shot down cost $32mill a copy

miforest
miforest
7 months ago

I wonder if there was a plan , at something like the WEF , to destroy the west and devide the spoils . I mean china did produce the bok “Unnnrestricted warfare” i the 90’s outliig war by ecoomics , destabilization, ancd subversion. suppose they joined up with and international economic elite that had an age old grudge against russians and ukrainians. china hates the west for their 100years of humilation after all. they could economicly disable the west by offshoring their capitol assets, then use their joint influience to have the Elites in the us government set up a… Read more »

miforest
miforest
Reply to  miforest
7 months ago

spellcheck has hangover

Guest
Guest
Reply to  miforest
7 months ago

Jesus, spell check was the least of your problems.

Read.

Think.

Write.

miforest
miforest
Reply to  Guest
7 months ago

here is a shortened more consise version .
https://frankwright.substack.com/p/an-unthinkable-peace this is a good summary of zelenski and netanyahu’s plans .
A 2023 report from the Oakland Institute revealed much of Ukraine’s productive land has been bought up by corporations such as Vanguard and Goldman Sachs – following a land reform law passed by Zelensky which allowed this foreign investment.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  miforest
7 months ago

Now and then I think about how China might take its revenge for the century of humiliation. Whether or not it involves hebrews, I’m sure that only an equal and proportional humiliation (at a minimum) would suffice. But it seems the west does most of the heavy lifting itself, having already sold to China the rope with which they will hang us.

anon
anon
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
7 months ago

Now and then I think about how China might take its revenge for the century of humiliation.

This began long before the rise of China. Even in the 80s, the apocryphal definition of an MBA was a person who knew the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

It was your MBAs who sold you out to China.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  anon
7 months ago

My favorite aspect of Current Year Clown World is that the same people incessantly braying to start a multi-front industrial WW3 are the same ones that got rich spending the last 50 years selling the West’s industrial base to Asia.

Sgt Pedantry
Sgt Pedantry
7 months ago

This post made me think of Rush Limbaugh, who has been dead for three years.

On the one hand the misplaced market worship presented here seems to confirm his legacy, however poisonous.

And yet on the other when I look at the state of the actually existing Republican base today, it is as if, despite tens of thousands of hours of blather, he had never existed.

WhereAreTheVIkings
WhereAreTheVIkings
Reply to  Sgt Pedantry
7 months ago

Rush got me through the nineties. He galvanized the opposition to the Clintons’ excesses, and for that we give thanks. However, the W years exposed him. When he dissed Ron Paul, the champion of all Rush was supposed to stand for domestically, I started to see him more clearly for what he was – deep down and always an Establishment Republican, still delusionally thinking it was the party of Reagan, which it never was (Reagan and Goldwater were beards for the Wall Street guys.). Rush had to be dragged kicking and screaming to support a nationalism that did not worship… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  WhereAreTheVIkings
7 months ago

Great analysis. Now for the good that “lies in the grave”. Rush was obviously moving toward where the Overton window moved in his later years. He was talking race politics to those who would not think to utter such at the time. For that I commend him. And I might say, Boomer or not, he was more alert to the aspect of racial politics than most of his Boomer audience.

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Compsci
7 months ago

WhereAreTheVIkings: “I started to see him more clearly for what he was – deep down and always an Establishment Republican…” Rush was the fat kid who wanted to eat lunch at the Kool Kidz Table in middle skrewl. But despite all of his talent, Rush never made it to the Kool Kidz Table. He was simply too fat. Too honest. Too clueless. By the end of his life, Rush’s mansion & beachfront acreage was his pride & joy; he felt like he was FINALLY gonna be one of the Kool Kidz. But shortly after his death, his fourth wife, a… Read more »

WhereAreTheVikings
WhereAreTheVikings
Reply to  Bourbon
7 months ago

It makes me sad that she disposed of his property that way. He deserved better.

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Bourbon
7 months ago

WhereAreTheVikings: ”
It makes me sad that she disposed of his property that way. He deserved better.”

If there’s one single solitary bedrock foundational tautology in all of our Creator’s creation, it’s this:

Wh0res gonna wh0re, Bro.

Wh0res gonna wh0re.

cg2
cg2
Reply to  Bourbon
7 months ago

Being in a truck-based service job all those years I hearda lotta Rush. I remember after he went on Letterman, he talked about how disappointed he was that Dave wasn’t nice him and even thought going in that he and DL would end up being buddies. He sounded heartbroken on the air. Point being, I guess, that once again Bourbon is correct.

mikew
mikew
Reply to  WhereAreTheVIkings
7 months ago

After 9/11 and the propaganda campaign for Iraq 2 began, in early 2002, Rush became un-listenable. He was just a fat neocon media mouthpiece who would interview Cheney or some other stooge and spread lies. I stopped listening to him until the Obama years. He did a lot of good in the late 80s to 2001 so he built up a reserve of goodwill for me and he did an ok job in the last 10 years. Perhaps he was a controlled opposition gate keeper but he had a way about him that no one else could match. He was… Read more »

WhereAreTheVIkings
WhereAreTheVIkings
Reply to  mikew
7 months ago

I’m glad he came around. My sister called him to talk about illegal immigration in 2002 and he accused her of being a seminar caller and hung up on her.

Danny
Danny
Reply to  WhereAreTheVIkings
7 months ago

Mr. Limbaugh was a pretty decent entertainer. And he created a space for himself and made beaucoup money. A pretty smart guy. But that’s about it.

Gespenst
Gespenst
Reply to  WhereAreTheVIkings
7 months ago

Ever notice how nobody, and I mean nobody, is ever good enough to satisfy people?

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Gespenst
7 months ago

Anyone who thinks about it understands that Rush was somewhere near the greatest radio guy of all time, up there with Welles and Jean Shepherd and Stern etc., but as a political figure he was kinda our guy and kinda the opposite guy (like Stern and Shepherd).

He might be the last example of somebody recognizing a *huge* “underserved market” and actually capitalizing on it. It’s him or Trump, depending what you think they’re really about.

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Gespenst
7 months ago

Gespenst: “Ever notice how nobody, and I mean nobody, is ever good enough to satisfy people?” Like Trump after him, Rush simply couldn’t cross the psycho-sociological Rubicon. Something held them back, both Rush & Trump. They were too infatuated with the Eisenhower era and Norman Rockwell’s Amurrikkkuh. They couldn’t grok the omnipotent psycho-sociological power [Cluster B plus Passive Aggression] which the Frankfurt School & the Council of the Sanhedrin had unleashed from Pandora’s Box, via the psy-op, known as, “Feminism”. And neither one of them [neither Rush nor Trump] ever spoke the words, “Hart” nor “(((Celler)))”. They couldn’t go there.… Read more »

Dutch Boy
Dutch Boy
7 months ago

My brother worked as an electronic engineer for a major defense contractor for years. He used to regale me with stories about the company’s stupidity and wastefulness. The surest way to advancement in the company was through incompetence, which got you transferred to management. My brother’s chief job was in quality control. Any time there was a problem with the testing of a product, the first complaint from management was “what’s wrong with the quality control software?” He would explain to the complainer that the complaint was the same old crap, the software was fine, the problem was in the… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Dutch Boy
7 months ago

That seems to be an American thing. Son now works in an American subsidiary of company now owned (bought out) by Germans. He runs the show for the particular product, but the German big wigs fly over here often to inspect. They brooch no excuses nor surprises. Last meeting the question was asked, why should we keep this factory open when we produce the same product for less in Peru (?) and the Philippines? You need to justify your cost to us. It’s not that the Germans want to close an American factory, they want it to be the crown… Read more »

My Comment
My Comment
7 months ago

Regarding Z’s behind the green door post on old period sniffing lunch meat. There has always been a certain amount of complaining between older and younger generations. Now it is just a lot more hysterical. But that is true of everything we now have a lot of serious divisions in America. Young and old. Black and Good white against everyone else. Men and women. Red vs blue. Etc All of those things were there as long as I can remember but they were never this emotionally charged. A big part is the work of our masters. However there seems to… Read more »

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  My Comment
7 months ago

” Being divided has taken on a life of its own. It is just who we are and people are looking for new ways to be divided” No… it is because the country is far less White. Remember – EVERYTHING is about race. There is nothing else. Diversity + Proximity == conflict. Blacks are dumb and violent – which makes them more destructive and dangerous than any force man could ever muster. White liberal women should be burned at the stake as well, but they’re not as violent. Then of course, there is the juice, which pulls the levers. The… Read more »

My Comment
My Comment
Reply to  Tired Citizen
7 months ago

I lived in Eastern Asia for over a decade and it was less divided overall than the US. There are flare ups there but not the constant division every which way you have in modern America.

In particular there is not as much animosity between the sexes even with their low bithrates.

If anything white people are the most eager to embrace division among their race. As Z noted inter generational conflict is in particular a white thing (as is female and male in waring camps)

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  My Comment
7 months ago

The division amongst Whites that you speak of is due to the brainwashing done to them in order to instill a guilt of being White. You don’t see the division in other races because those races’ entire identity is built around their race. For blacks. especially, it is their blackness that defines them. It is their unified belief that their failures are due to oppression and someone else’s doing (YT). Asians have been taught this same thing, and of course, women. Normal Whites are not allowed to identify based on their race like these other groups are.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  My Comment
7 months ago

My comment: I’ve lived in Asia as well, albeit for a few years as opposed to a decade. And in the Caribbean and Eastern and Western Europe. And I think you are totally minimizing the divisions. Every nation holds irredentist grudges; the Japanese and Chinese consider the Thais and Vietnamese jungle Asians. There is so much conflict between the sexes in Korea that the young have essentially ceased having sex and their birth rate is lower than even that of White Europeans. Divisions exist – between peoples, the sexes, the age cohorts. They may be more indulged in in White… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  3g4me
7 months ago

An all White, or mainly White race kept the country together far longer than it should have. Add the grifters after Hart-Celler and the Civil Rights Act and here we are.

Yeah, the above is simplistic, but it does cover a lot of ground. I also like Woodley’s “Spiteful Mutant” insight tossed in—we are getting dumber. Last paper I saw estimated close to a post WWII standard deviation decline and also a great decline in IQ of those enrolled in college—combination of DIE and lowered standards.

Vxxc
Vxxc
7 months ago

Z et al; on slavery and Open Borders; The Republican Party was founded as a Labor movement of Free White Laborers and Free Soil. Not abolitionists. That’s the other myth of the Civil War, it’s Evil Twin being the Noble Cause. Both are myths propagated by academics. Lies. The book at the time that set everyone off and that the South hung men for possession was “The Impending Crisis of the South” by Hinton Helper. His objection was that slavery impoverished 5 out of the 6 million whites in the South. Hinton Helper was a racist White Supremacist from Georgia.… Read more »

Actually
Actually
Reply to  Vxxc
7 months ago

Great comment. Very few remember Helper anymore as his book is almost never mentioned in history classes

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Vxxc
7 months ago

If Lehman hadn’t gone belly up when it did, I wonder if it would today face a strong demand for reparations

Gespenst
Gespenst
7 months ago

“Treating traditions as mere superstition inevitably leads to their abandonment and the loss of their associated social capital.”
…Zman

“Tradition is a set of solutions for which we have forgotten the problems. Throw away the solution and you get the problem back. Sometimes the problem has mutated or disappeared. Often it is still there as strong as it ever was.”
…Donald Kingsbury in “Courtship Rite”

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Gespenst
7 months ago

I think about Kingsbury’s sentiment a lot with respect to women voting and women’s emancipation in general. Contemporary “thought” would have one believe that all humans prior to 1900 or so were just sexist pigs who hated women. No other explanation seems to be contemplated for why things were the way they were.

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
7 months ago

An excellent point that does not get nearly enough attention. People did thoughtfully discuss this kind of thing in the past. Aristotle in particular talks about inherent natural differences and the social hierarchy created by nature. Christianity talks about the role of women as created by God.

What happened just prior to 1900 was the Industrial Revolution, during which society became synthetic and artificial, not natural, and the order of nature was deliberately upset. The modern ideology of equality is predicated upon the ability to create artificial means to enforce it.

Modernity is a rebellion against “Nature and Nature’s God.”

fakeemail
fakeemail
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
7 months ago

“Don’t ever take a fence down until you know the reason it was put up.” -GK Chesterton

My Comment
My Comment
7 months ago

Well, thank goodness for outsourcing MIC production and filling up the. military with strong, independent women and transsexuals whole driving out white heterosexual men. No telling how many wars we would have going on if it wasn’t for all that. But you have to give our masters credit. No matter whether the plan is absolutely insane, they always make more money and get more power. Covid, open borders, endless wars and Green energy hurt normal people while enriching and gaining power for our masters. That is why I am so interested in the Great Reset. If the tribe gets their… Read more »

My Comment
My Comment
Reply to  My Comment
7 months ago

Last paragraph

All the tribe’s plans will not result in party time for all our masters like they have so far

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  My Comment
7 months ago

Whatever the Great Reset is or isn’t, one aspect of it you can take to the bank is that it would result in the current owners remaining the owners.

My Comment
My Comment
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
7 months ago

But owners of what? They plan on killing off the economy. I guess there will be good deals on real estate

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  My Comment
7 months ago

My Comment: “They plan on killing off the economy.” According to the Georgia Guidestones, they plan on killing 15 out of every 16 hominids on the face of the Earth [500 million being 1/16th of 8 billion]. Which, in turn, is why we’re all trying so hard to remain PμreBl00ded. Although the rumor is that the next round of MRNA poisoning is gonna be simply horrifying. Apparently they may no longer need the Lipid Nano Particles [chilled at something like negative 100 degrees fahrenheit], and everything in Round Two will be at room temperature [possibly even served up in common… Read more »

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Bourbon
7 months ago

Or perhaps aerosolized, thus almost unavoidable…

Pozymandias
Reply to  My Comment
7 months ago

That’s just it though. The MIC is probably the one part of the productive economy that hasn’t been outsourced. You usually need at least a “secret” clearance just to walk into a place that makes weapons. Defense contractors have also remained a source of good paying jobs, particularly in IT. Notice that the recent tech layoff bloodbath was all among the “useless wammen” tech companies, not Northrop Grumman or Lockheed. This is also one of the reasons America needs to spend $10 or $20 for each dollar the Russians spend in Ukraine. It is understood that the economies of entire… Read more »

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Pozymandias
7 months ago

Except for all the subcomponents. Now the chips in weapons are made in Asia. When they mocked the Russians for stripping washing machines of chips they were probably voicing their own fears

DaBears
DaBears
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
7 months ago

Projection. They cannot help themselves.

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
7 months ago

Just to help you understand German publications and their political leaning, Der Spiegel and Focus are more liberal, pro-Green weekly publications. Bild is a more right of center daily paper. If you want to get even more right, Neue Zürcher Zeitung (https://www.nzz.ch/english) is probably the best conservative German language newspaper. If you would like an accurate count of exactly what was provided by the German Federal Government, this article spells it out quite well exactly what was provided to Ukraine. The level of accounting is very precise, right down to 450 snow chains, as one would expect from German attention… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
7 months ago

Speaking of German attention to detail, I expect the GAE takes for granted, in several different ways, that aspect of the 40 million or so people of German descent living in AINO. The myth of immigration being the lifeblood of AINO isn’t exactly a myth: It was founded on the fact that its first big wave of non English immigration was German. The myth was in believing that any other set of immigrants would be as beneficial.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
7 months ago

Indeed, had that first big wave of immigration been from anywhere else, then quite possibly the myths of immigration would not exist

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
7 months ago

Kind of odd that Germany and England haven’t gotten along that well in Europe, when we’ve gotten along well here.

All the same, pretty dumb to think because you get along with, essentially, Germanic siblings, everybody else will work, too.

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
Reply to  Paintersforms
7 months ago

England and Germany were never natural enemies and like Russia, all shared common blood lines through royal marriage going back hundreds of years.

Horace
Horace
Reply to  Paintersforms
7 months ago

England and Germany historically got along ok. It was France who was the perpetual enemy of England. It’s probably not uncorrelated that the modulation of relations between the 3 nations was contemporaneous with an infestation of Rothschild’s in both Paris and London. Money talks, bullshit walks, and white men go die serving alien banskters, stupidly thinking they are making the world a better place.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Horace
7 months ago

Not once Germany united as a great power.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Paintersforms
7 months ago

Tangent, one thing that really stuck out to me in reading Quigley (hope I remember this correctly), is that there was an influential group in England (and by that time in America, too) that favored a German-dominated Europe allied with the Anglosphere against the Soviet Union. Sounds familiar, iirc a certain Moustache had a similar idea. This would be the group Quigley was writing about, much-maligned these days as globalists. It seems Churchill and FDR ran with a different crowd, with a different agenda. That one threw me for a loop! Very tangentially, I was listening to Dan Carlin yesterday.… Read more »

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
7 months ago

If you speak to the average German here in Germany, you would be surprised how many can name a family member that immigrated to America at some point in the past. If you enjoy history, you should read – “Nine Years Among the Indians, 1870-1879: The Story of the Captivity and Life of a Texan Among the Indians” The title is misleading because the “Texan” is a young German boy named Herman Lehmann who was captured as a child by the Apache near Fredericksburg, Texas. He lived first among the Apache and then the Comanche but eventually returned to his… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
7 months ago

Karl – totally unrelated to Ukraine but equally deleterious to Germany are the planned economic and thought controls on non-approved opinions.

https://www.eugyppius.com/p/germany-announces-wide-ranging-plans

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
Reply to  3g4me
7 months ago

She, like many against the AfD, are pushing for any means to undermine the AfD and eliminate them. It is no secret that the AfD is growing in popularity, with huge support in the East, and are gaining ground in the West as well. Germans are not pro AfD as much as they against the major parties (CDU, CSU and SPD) because they (and the Greens) refuse to listen to what the German people want. The link you provided states it concisely – “Alternative für Deutschland find themselves in the targets of our nominally democratic priesthood not because they are… Read more »

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
7 months ago

Well, how far such anti-constitutional measures will progress depends on how steadfast your courts are in upholding the constitution. Our court system, including the so-called “Supreme Court” are not very steadfast, to say the least, and once the doctrine of stare decisis gets something into which it can sink its teeth, the correct constitution-respectful jurisprudence begins to vanish in the rear view mirror.

May Deutschland fare better in this regard than have we in these “United” States.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  3g4me
7 months ago

Thank you for linking to this article; I read it a day or so back, and found it very illuminating, not only in its conveyance of Traffic Light Cabal politics in Deutschland, but also in the clear parallels to the behavior of our Uniparty here that cannot but be seen.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
7 months ago

Perhaps ironically, the Iraqis would have done the West a big favor if they’d stood and fought in Kuwait rather than surrendered en masse. In that recent Mike Benz video so many of us watched, he made the important point that sometime in the past few years they redefined “democracy” (which we never were, another subject) to mean the institutions of the GAE, such as the IMF, NATO, CIA, Pentagon, State Dept, etc. etc. So now that we know what they mean when they say “democracy,” we know they aren’t directly lying when they say that “we” are fighting in… Read more »

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
7 months ago

Perhaps ironically, the Iraqis would have done the West a big favor if they’d stood and fought in Kuwait

I’d agree, but that early ’90s GAE military was the Cold War-era military which was an even more formidable beast than the one that overran Iraq 12-ish years later (this played no small part in why they were even there to being with). Even if the Iraqis were extremely forward thinking and did everything correctly and to the best of their ability their chances were iffy at best.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
7 months ago

I’m not saying Iraq could have won. I’m saying they could have inflicted substantial casualties, enough to make the GAE learn different lessons than it did.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
7 months ago

Not a chance. Reagan left Bush I a first rate military. He placed over half a million men in the Middle East in the six month period leading up to war. The Iraqis used second rate Soviet era equipment. Albeit a sand crap-hole, the war was pretty much the same as planned for in Europe—fast and on the run with total air superiority. The Soviet’s and Chinese watched in horror. That war was the best thing to happen for American prestige. And oddly, perhaps the best thing for Russia and China. They learned and began to rethink and replace their… Read more »

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Compsci
7 months ago

The Soviets, later Russians, discovered that they needed new dicttrines and weapons because of the first Gulf War. Just like the Germans needed to develop these after the first world war. And came up with the Blitz Krieg that Patton and Zhukov later learned to do with greater resources. History has patterns. You learn from the enemy.

Now every staff college is studying drones and missiles on Ukraine and Yemen

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Compsci
7 months ago

Moran,

The drone thing was in the air some years back. I used to regularly visit a site called Global Guerillas, authored by John Robb. He was talking up the onrushing potential of drone swarms, particularly in conjunction with the rise of AI and loitering, increasingly autonomous drones, both for purposes of ISR, and for offensive use. Robb was heavily influenced by USAF Col. Boyd, and his thoughts on the centrality of exploitation of an adversary’s failures in comprehension of the OODA loop.

Nicholas Name
Nicholas Name
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
7 months ago

I did 4 tours in Iraq, so please believe me when I say Iraqis can’t fight. At all. Their country has never won a war because they are cowards who make the Keystone Cops look serious.

Hell, they abandoned Mosul to only 5k ISIS fighters and then took most of a year to even organize a counter offensive.

That’s why Kurds do the GAE’s heavy lifting over there.

Salmon Jones
Salmon Jones
Reply to  Nicholas Name
7 months ago

And yet you retards lost to them :^)

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Nicholas Name
7 months ago

It sounds like the same man fights poorly as an Iraqi and savagely as a jihadist. Probably because Iraq is a made up nation invented in London and Paris. No wonder they won’t fight for something as artificial as Disneyland

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
7 months ago

“Reason states that if you have a competitive and open market, you end up with the best products and services winning over those of lesser quality or higher price.” Let reason remain silent when all experience has shown it to be wrong. The exact opposite happens at least some of the time and for some of the products and services.. Open and competitive markets leads to products and services being of lower and lower quality. When you have open trade borders with a country like China, you end up with your market flooded with poor quality and fake goods. Consumers… Read more »

Dutch Boy
Dutch Boy
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
7 months ago

The cheap Chinese stuff drives out the good products. Many years ago, I asked my wife not to buy stuff made in China. She tried for a while and then begged me to relent. Almost all baby products are made in China now, she explained, and the stuff that isn’t is made in some other Third World sweat shop. There has also been a significant erosion in the buying power of most Americans so that the higher quality merchandise is outside the price range of most consumers. They end up at Walmart, buying the cheap Chinese stuff.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
7 months ago

It’s weird that I’m old enough to remember when most things were US made, luxury goods from Europe, cheap junk from Asia (Japan excepted somewhat). Things changed fast after the Cold War ended.

Stranger in a Strange Land
Stranger in a Strange Land
Reply to  Paintersforms
7 months ago

…and I’m old enough to remember ‘Made in Japan’ was, without exception, a by word and the definition of ‘cheap junk’

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Stranger in a Strange Land
7 months ago

I remember that too, or at least I remember hearing about it, though everything I ever got from Japan was good. Nowadays MADE IN JAPAN means “wallet-obliterating luxury edition”—and nothing *there* changed (much).

We’ve made a very important part of everyday life, how pleasing it is to hold and use things, much worse for ourselves*. Touching crap erodes the soul.

*usual disclaimer re: we/us/etc.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Stranger in a Strange Land
7 months ago

Same. Early/mid ’60s everything from tourist gift shops was “Made in Japan.” I recall a friend went to the 1964 New York Worlds Fair and brought to school a toy that played “It’s a Small World.” I clearly recall the “Made in Japan” sticker on it.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Stranger in a Strange Land
7 months ago

And all the beads we made by hand/
Are nowadays made in Japan.

Ulithi
Ulithi
Reply to  Stranger in a Strange Land
7 months ago

Nikon single lens cameras competed with Leica’s in the 50’s and 60’s. They were not junk

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Ulithi
7 months ago

Sony, Toyota, Honda, etc. I get it. But there will still plenty of junky knickknacks made in Japan when I was a kid.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Stranger in a Strange Land
7 months ago

I don’t think the Japanese ever did the Chinese strategy of cheap junk. The Japanese like the Germans have a deep cultural preference for quality I’d not perfection. The Japanese from the 1920s onwards repeated the German industrial strategy from the late 19th century of entertaining the mid level quality market and then move up to become brands of quality. There’s a reason everyone loves samurai swords and few obsess over various Kung Fu swords. The Japanese hate shoddiness unlike the Chinese and, honestly, the b
English speaking countries

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
7 months ago

I have my grandfather’s Teisco guitar. Materials are excellent— body and neck are single pieces of mohogany, fingerboard is Brazilian rosewood. Craftsmanship is pretty shoddy. Huge gap at the neck joint, binding isn’t flush, etc. Even the ‘Japan’ on the neck plate is unevenly stamped. I guess there was a learning curve for them, too.

Snooze
Snooze
Reply to  Paintersforms
7 months ago

When I was a kid I always looked to see where in the United States the product I had just bought was made.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Snooze
7 months ago

Nowadays, such a search would likely, at best, find the US corporate headquarters location for “their” outsourced merchandise.
‘Struth, sadly.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
7 months ago

Capitalism levels downward because it puts large amounts of disposible income in the hands of the unwashed, mindless masses who prefer quantity to quality, and convenience to craft. This is why, for example, sleazy Chinese buffets have replaced those wonderful mom-n-pop Chinese restaurants that were commonplace in the 30s through the 80s.

Pozymandias
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
7 months ago

To play Libertarian’s advocate here: China itself is a massive government guided machine *designed* to undermine the US in every way possible including flooding the market with cheap junk. I doubt that, without government support and direction, Chinese companies would be so effective at doing this. I’m sure some of them are actually operating at a loss in fact but the CCP bails them out.

Note: I’m just pointing to an obvious way China is not a real free market. Then again, I know that no such thing exists or can exist.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Pozymandias
7 months ago

I’m afraid the blame lies much closer to home. The real problem is US manufacturers were very excited to fire their American staff, put the production equipment on a boat only to have it literally stolen in China. Serves them right. I only hope the CCP arrests any “American” managers in China and charges them with being a spy and imposes the only sentence appropriate for being a spy. Maybe the Chinese policemen in every US city will make himself useful and be ordered by the CCP to extradite those American spies back to China to face the CCP. I… Read more »

imnobody00
imnobody00
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
7 months ago

“A hologram for the king” with Tom Hanks has this subplot. Boring, ridiculous and feminist movie but the main character has guilt about his decision to ship production to China and fire everybody, only to see the know how of his company stolen by the Chinese and the business bankrupt by Chinese imitations. I really liked this subplot

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
7 months ago

Too wide a brush. There are top notch Chinese products in the market. You want a cheap price you get a reduced quality product—and Americans like cheap. Look, these guys design and produce their own military equipment. They send rockets to the moon. Don’t underestimate them. Yep, what technology they needed to advance, they often stole. But that was yesterday. They can hold their own. They’ll still cheat as that is their nature, but they don’t have to in most areas.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
7 months ago

In other words this amorphous thing called culture, as borne through time by tradition, supersedes material wellbeing as facilitated by global capitalism. I could not agree more. But alas, after the Cold War, when the neoconservative capitalists linked arms with the postmodern multicultural Leftsts, the jig was up. This hell-spawned combination has proved more cataclysmic and puissant than Assyrians, Mohammedans and Mongols combined. We shall see how durable is its hegemony.

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
7 months ago

“The bourgeoisie, historically, has played a most revolutionary part. The bourgeoisie, wherever it has got the upper hand, has put an end to all feudal, patriarchal, idyllic relations. It has pitilessly torn asunder the motley feudal ties that bound man to his “natural superiors,” and has left remaining no other nexus between man and man than naked self-interest, than callous “cash payment.” It has drowned the most heavenly ecstasies of religious fervour, of chivalrous enthusiasm, of philistine sentimentalism, in the icy water of egotistical calculation. It has resolved personal worth into exchange value, and in place of the numberless and… Read more »

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Xman
7 months ago

And, in contrast to Karl Marx’ days, when industrial mercantilism was employed by bourgeoisie states to batter down the walls of traditional societies, the outsourcing of industrial/technological industries has left the proletariat, and increasingly, the bourgeoisie stripped of agency in their own nations, and battering down their walls, while the free-floating cosmopolitans have had their powers exponentially enhanced. Welcome to End-Stage Capitalism…

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
7 months ago

Good essay. I have to start using that term social capital more often because that concept is true, our social capital has been transformed into money and profit centers.

pyrrhus
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
7 months ago

I have only one bone to pick with Z-man’s fine essay, which is that all of this “profit” is very short term, and primarily funneled to a tiny segment of society..In the longer run, social ruin is ruin for everyone…And as for the bunkers and gated communities, they won’t do the job…Part of the job of being rich used to be seen as helping your community to grow and improve…from the Carnegie libraries to donating national park land by the Rockefellars, and many smaller contributions, this was seen…Now, it’s poison vaccines and frankenmosquitos….

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  pyrrhus
7 months ago

The “Elites” are NOT OUR PEOPLE. They share no identity with the masses over whom they lord it.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  JerseyJeffersonian
7 months ago

Precisely! But in defense of Pyrrhus, it *wasn’t* always that way—and that’s what he refers to. A century ago, you could go to towns and cities and there was the rich side of town and across the tracks, the other side of town with the middle classes. You could often walk to the toni neighborhoods and see the “elites” of the time. Yeap, they lived better, but *were* still part of the community and it entailed responsibility. That’s why you can still go to towns and cities and see those municipal works named after them. Now we give so much… Read more »

p
p
Reply to  pyrrhus
7 months ago

“Noblesse Oblige”..

Marty Grove
Marty Grove
7 months ago

I remember seeing this on a Nick Fuentes stream, but he made a comment that our elites in the West are much more hysterical over Russia than China b/c they fear a competent, modern nuclear military power on the European continent. China has a robust military on land and sea but they are in the Pacific Ocean and are more inward-focused than outward country. China isn’t an immediate competitor to the West for world domination, but Russia is. If Russia achieves a significant military victory over Ukraine, that is a devastating blow towards democracy. It would be the beginning of… Read more »

Ivan
Ivan
Reply to  Marty Grove
7 months ago

“It would be the beginning of a multi polar world”

That ship sailed, bon voyage.

Marty Grove
Marty Grove
Reply to  Ivan
7 months ago

I would argue we do not currently live in a multi polar world. There are alternative systems that exist but they are not true competitors to the West. Countries are not flocking towards the Ruble.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Marty Grove
7 months ago

The fact that Russia and China–among others–exist in direct opposition to “America,” proves that we live in a multipolar world.

The only thing attractive about “America” is its wealth. As its economy attenuates–and it will–the sole source of its power will evaporate.

Marty Grove
Marty Grove
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
7 months ago

Just because opposition exists doesn’t mean that it is a true competitor. The Libertarian and Green Party exist in opposition to the GOP and Democratic parties, but they are not competitors.

I would, again, also argue that China is not really concerned with ruling the world. China is out for her best interests. China will interact with Western capital so long as it is left alone with her borders.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
7 months ago

@MGrove

The notion that Russia seeks any sort of conquest beyond its historical borders–which include the Ukraine, BTW–is nonsense. The fact of the matter is that the BFE and its Euro-lackeys, since the conclusion of the Cold War, have been badgering, goading and provoking a Russia that simply wished to be left to its own devices. Once absorption of the Ukraine into NATO was set in motion, this triggered the predictable Russian invasion. But, if the BFE had simply tended its own knitting, none of this would have happened.

WhereAreTheVikings
WhereAreTheVikings
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
7 months ago

Ostei, do you suppose this country will ever outgrow the Russia-wants-to-rule-the-world programming that should have disappeared with the Berlin Wall? Just because we haven’t learned that trying to conquer and control the world is folly doesn’t mean the Russians haven’t. It only took Afghanistan to get them to stay home.

Ivan
Ivan
Reply to  Marty Grove
7 months ago

You apparently do not understand multipolarity. BRICS will not use national currencies in global trade settlement.

Think hybrid mercantilism/bullionism.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Marty Grove
7 months ago

Well, you’re right about one thing–the Blackberry Fruitcake Empire seeks absolute control of the entire planet and will, if needs be, risk incinerating it in order to establish that control. Russia presents an option to the BFE’s Afro-fascism in furtherance of subjugating whitey and therefore must be eliminated.

WhereAreTheVikings
WhereAreTheVikings
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
7 months ago

In my fevered little brain, Ostei, I wonder if the West paid someone to off Navalny so as to reinvigorate the push for Western arms and $$$$ to Ukraine. I would imagine a box of Butterfingers in that godforaken outpost can buy just about anything you want done.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  WhereAreTheVikings
7 months ago

I would have held out for Almond Joys. (-;

As to your other comment about AINO’s childish antagonism toward Russia, it dates at least as far back as the Russian Civil War when the US actually sent troops to eastern Russia in support of the Whites (arguably the last time America would support anything white). This country–or what passes for it–has been meddlesome for a very long time, and Russia seems to be its preferred target.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
7 months ago

From memory, it is earlier, and a certain tribe agitated for the United States to tilt toward Japan when it went to war with Russia, and financed the resultant revolution that set off the civil war.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  WhereAreTheVikings
7 months ago

I think it’s more likely that he died from a covid jab injury than it is that either Russia chose this moment to kill him, or that the GAE was able to reach into a Russian prison to do it.

Mike
Mike
Reply to  Marty Grove
7 months ago

Russia is no threat to the West, never really has been even during the Cold War. It could cause trouble but could have never been the hegemon.we were.

Marty Grove
Marty Grove
Reply to  Mike
7 months ago

the Cold War era was most certainly a Bipolar world. Even though the USSR was not as economically strong as the United States, they posed a real military threat. The Soviets had real influence and control over a large swath of the world. Lest we forget real power comes from the barrel of a gun and not through dollars. Again, this is the real fear of Russia that the West has. If it can defeat the West in a military conflict, it proves to itself and other nations that they can provide a real umbrella for other countries to gravitate… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Mike
7 months ago

The threat to the west of the USSR was as an alternative governing/economic model to democratic capitalism. As we subverted governments all over the world to our version of “utopia”, so too the USSR did theirs. That was the Cold War threat. Military superiority was never the real problem, only a pretext for the MIC. This is why a military man like Eisenhower could leave office while warning of the MIC—he knew from top secret information what a farce USSR military superiority was. He was one of the last decent Americas of that generation. Russia (post USSR) was never a… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Compsci
7 months ago

Putin does not get the recognition he deserves, particularly in clownworld.

We can only hope and pray that there is a Vladimir Putin somewhere in AINO who can turn things around after the fall. Though I was certainly in Russia during the years after the fall of the SU, it’s pretty much universally agreed upon that post collapse Russia was a hellhole even compared to the SU. One man turned that whole ship around in a society that was loaded with corruption and cynicism.

They will build statues to the man.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
7 months ago

Though I was certainly in Russia during the years after the fall of the SU,

err… that should say “certainly not in Russia”

Robbo
Robbo
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
7 months ago

True. The rejuvenation of Russia has been a miracle of the ages. It gives hope for us here in the West. The only proviso is that in 1991 Russia was still an ethnically and culturally homogenous society with, despite 70 years of communism, a large swathe of religious believers.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Marty Grove
7 months ago

Marty: Gawd, yet another visitor from Breitbart? Russia has absolutely no interest in conquering or ruling the mythical West. It will certainly and rationally protect its interests and boundaries – not to mention its people. That’s what a normal, rational nation-state does. China still considers itself the prime civilization, deprived by sometimes clever but unworthy westerners (although an inordinate number of those, on either end of the political spectrum, have been small hats). China sees no need to militarily invade AINO because it is already well on the way to demographically colonizing the north American continent. Hongcouver? Seattle? Any military… Read more »

Marty Grove
Marty Grove
Reply to  3g4me
7 months ago

The perception that Russia sees itself as just a nation-state, for instance like Japan, is not accurate.

Russia sees itself as a successor to the Byzantine Empire, a different culture than the West. It’s not all about protecting Russian interests, its a greater civilizational mission. It sees all of Eastern Europe as belonging to its sphere of influence.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Marty Grove
7 months ago

Marty Grove: Modern Russia does see itself as a cultural inheritor of the Byzantines, but definitely regards itself as a modern nation state as well. One with an outside sphere of influence, perhaps, but that is true of many countries. The modern nation states which compose what we call Eastern Europe have been part of multi-ethnic empires for centuries. One can support modern independent Czechia without disregarding its history as a slavic people. And naturally Eastern Europe is its sphere of influence, just as fledgling America proclaimed the Monroe Doctrine. That does not mean Putin plans to invade and occupy… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  3g4me
7 months ago

edit: Pot versus kettle.

Marty Grove
Marty Grove
Reply to  3g4me
7 months ago

I am not coming out here as some Breitbart-tarded reader and saying “Russia bad, Russia trying to conquer world”

The original argument was that our elites in the West are hysterical about Russia b/c they perceive it as an immediate competitor to world domination.

No country is going to dominate the world in a traditional sense (boots on the ground and gobbling up borders), but in today’s age, an empire is composed of those whose sphere of influence they are under.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  3g4me
7 months ago

Marty: Your argument is what is in dispute. The ‘elites’ are hysterical about Russia not because they fear a competitor in world domination, but because of historical resentment and grudge holding.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  3g4me
7 months ago

3g4me,

Emphatically, yes, the little hat factor with THEIR delusions of grandeur as the “Chosen People”, entitled to run the world as one big feedlot for their Talmudic Cattle, having had their ears pinned back by the resurgence of the Russians under Putin, foiling their plans for unquestioned access to Russia’s resources that has driven them mad.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Marty Grove
7 months ago

Yes, and we all well recall how Byzantium ruled from Reykjavik to Kuala Lumpur…

Marty Grove
Marty Grove
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
7 months ago

Rome never ruled from the Los Angeles to Berlin….

The US is a ginormous empire that rules from America all the way across Western Europe.

DaBears
DaBears
Reply to  3g4me
7 months ago

You nailed it. Again.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Marty Grove
7 months ago

“if Russia wins in Ukraine it’s a significant blow to democracy” What democracy would that be? The one that frauded a vascular dementia patient into the white house and now openly “soft persecutes” whites while replacing them?? Say what you will of the old commie countries but it is a simple fact that the last time the Russians ran Eastern Europe they greatly retarded the “gast arbeider” programs of Western Europe that in hindsight were the early start to the wholesale replacement of Whites there. If Russia loses in Ukraine I’m sure the kebab will be excellent in Kiev in… Read more »

Bizarro Man
Bizarro Man
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
7 months ago

Today, Democracy means “shut up and do as you’re told.”

TomA
TomA
7 months ago

At some point in time, we have to wake up and smell the coffee. Our leaders in the West are nothing more than a cabal of sycophantic degenerates that hate us and want to destroy everything we hold dear in life, just so they can maintain their status at the top of the heap. Their actions are deliberate, malicious, destructive, and evil because that is simply how they roll. And they get away with it because there is no accountability or feedback mechanism to self-correct. The illusion of free and fair democratic elections is the soma that keeps normie on… Read more »

Guest
Guest
Reply to  TomA
7 months ago

I appreciate your well thought comments and clear writing here. I believe you are the gentleman who routinely writes that the collapse is the cure, and you are quite correct on that. Regarding the West, one of the techniques I use in conversation these days is to point out that we are no longer the West in any meaningful way, shape or form. What used to be the West are now lands of unrestricted government installed through illegitimate elections, mass electronic surveillance and propaganda, restrictions on free speech and the practice of religion. All the pillars that supported the West… Read more »

DaBears
DaBears
7 months ago

Provided it doesn’t break down and the logistics tail supports it, any piece of military equipment is valuable even if pressed into service outside its design intentions. The Ukrainian problem is they fight one way and the equipment “the west” has been supplying was not designed to be fought the way it’s been applied. Ukies are looking for breakthroughs so they can outflank and destroy Russian assets but the NATO equipment was designed to slow down Russian armies flowing into Fulda Gap and Kaliningrad. It would take time for western equipment to evolve, which is possible in theory, but during… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
7 months ago

“Once you have monetized the social capital of the people and carried it off …”

Perhaps the above is the most important concept you’ve ever posted in this blog. I said so before. Now you’ve added what I predict will be you second most import concept:

“…some things are too important to subject to the market. The moral claims of a society, for example, should not be up for bid.”

Many thanks.

sentry
sentry
7 months ago

“The Danish prime minister went so far as to say that the West must give all of its weapons to Ukraine.”

as europe is being invaded by hordes of killers and rapists, they decided that was a great idea.
iran can easily ship weapons to muslims in europe, while west is disarming.
western europe is so fucked i can’t even express it in words.

Europeans better pray Putin invades them.

Reply
Reply
Reply to  sentry
7 months ago

Doesn’t yet another article about Europeans show that they have a death wish? Except for some like the Hungarians.

They talk themselves into absurd positions and get stampeded by ideologues, all the while forgetting that they still live in the real world.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Reply
7 months ago

They had a nice long break from living in the real world. A good 70 years I would say, once the initial rebuilding was done. It hasn’t really ended yet.

Anti-Gnostic
Anti-Gnostic
Reply to  Reply
7 months ago

There has definitely been something wrong with the European psyche since the late 19th century, culminating in two world wars.

The blood of Numenor is all but spent; I was looking up Prussia’s Glory marches and one regimental band had a number of musicians and soldiers too fat for their jackets to drape properly. Lots of short, squatty women in the ranks too.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Anti-Gnostic
7 months ago

Europe lost an awfully large number of good men in their fratricidal wars, and it shows.

The South had a similar problem in the conclusion of the War of Northern Aggression, the North less so, seeing how a lot of their losses were among that day’s “paper Americans”, new arrivals, and the barely assimilated, and then that time’s Great Replacement really hit its stride, and with lasting effect, as they became cogs in Lincoln’s Leviathan, newly constructed.

george 1
george 1
Reply to  sentry
7 months ago

This is what comes from girl bosses and men who emulate them.

WhereAreTheVIkings
WhereAreTheVIkings
Reply to  george 1
7 months ago

The darkness is not total. It is a sign of God’s infinite mercy that that Boomer and Gen-X band, Normie and the Grillers – in previous years halfway trying to appear bellicose to rescue what was left of their self-respect should they happen upon a somewhat enlightened comments section – no longer post “Wrath of the Awakened Saxon” in response to expressions of dismay at the goings-on.

I am more and more coming to think of my people, Anglo-Saxons, as, in my kids’ contemptuous vernacular, “tools”. Finally examining history through this lens seems to bear that out.

thelikesofus
thelikesofus
7 months ago

There multiple reasons driving American foreign policy in the Ukraine. 1. NATO expansion and consolidating American hegemony over European landmass remember: Western Europe – 1945 Central Eastern Europe – 1989-91 Russia 2022-???? 2. Breaking energy supply relationships between Russia and Europe and replacing with supplies of expensive and unreliable American energy which will force European de-industrialisation and American re-industrialisation. 3. Recycling portions of the aid money/loans back to the political establishments in the US/EU. 3. Initiating a new investment cycle in American armaments – after NATO countries have had a thorough clear-out of old equipment. 4. Testing weapons systems and… Read more »

jkloi
jkloi
Reply to  thelikesofus
7 months ago

Which is why anyone who serves the GAE is an evil scumbag. No matter their reasoning, they’re evil. The MIC and the normie-con asshole out of San Diego, Virginia Beach and Ft. Hood is an evil person at this point that no rationalization can mitigate.

Stranger in a Strange Land
Stranger in a Strange Land
Reply to  thelikesofus
7 months ago

thelikesofus – your 6 reasons are rational, logical, and self serving of the GAE – nevertheless what one might expect. American foreign policy seems to be driven foremost by the irrational & illogical – to wit: love Globohomo,& embrace Green-ism, hate Whitey, destroy Trump.

Jack Boniface
Jack Boniface
Member
7 months ago

Russell Kirk used to quote a line from James Russell Lowell: “At the devil’s booth are all things sold.”

FNC1A1
Member
7 months ago

It’s becoming fashionable for progressives to take in illegal immigrants into their homes, and use them as unpaid domestic help

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  FNC1A1
7 months ago

FNC1A1: That’s been going on with Asian and Latino immigrants for decades. The more economically successful ones in AINO bring in their own base class as servants/slaves. Periodically one of the slaves revolts and authorities are notified. Lots of moral outrage ensues, but neither the slaver nor the slave are ever sent back.

Azzhole at one US embassy brought his ‘servant’ with him from the Seychelles. Now just one more black in AINO via whom multiple magic migrants will flow.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
7 months ago

“Open borders, like slavery in the ancient world, are profitable for society” Profitable and beneficial for a few, you mean. Costs are socialised while profits remain private. As for Ukraine, the arms dealers and arms manufacturers have made out like bandits but then again, that was one major purpose of this fiasco. As for the European jackals howling in Munich, they simply don’t matter. Only the US Shere Khan matters, and the jackals howl at his behest and to ingratiate themselves with him. What “democracy” means today is the aging and mangy Shere Khan surrounded by his equally mangy jackals… Read more »

Dinodoxy
Dinodoxy
7 months ago

Producing equipment to win a war against a peer competitor has not been the function of the American military industrial complex for more than a half century.

Instead its function has been strengthening the ruling regime via keynesian stimulus. The spending is the entire point. And lacking any competition, the spending became ever less effective and the material produced ever more worthless junk.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  thezman
7 months ago

Of course, it is entirely possible that the regime thinks Chinese companies will keep selling us parts because they would care more about profits than their nation’s interests.

In the case of the Chinese this wouldn’t exactly be a surprising thing were it to happen…

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
7 months ago

I think it would be. The CCP stills keeps a strangle hold on the populace—especially those newly minted billionaires aka modern industrialists.

The stories abound about those committing “economic crimes” and then winding up with a public execution. Even some of the most famous, like Jack Ma have been called out and taken to the woodshed for a shake down.

That—to me at least—has been the only redeeming aspect of a CCP controlled China.

Gideon
Gideon
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
7 months ago

I’m inclined to think you are being humorous here, as it certainly comports with Chinese stereotypes. However, the CCP came to power when previous governments could not even consolidate rule within China itself (with warlords controlling parts of the country), not alone protect it from foreign powers like Britain, France and Japan. CCP legitimacy, therefore, is based on its reassertion of sovereignty over much of the area once ruled by the Qing, and is why Taiwanese separatism is such a sore point with them. Of course, the Ukraine conflict suggests the U.S. would preemptively sanction China anyway, and only subsequently… Read more »

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  thezman
7 months ago

As crazy as your last complete sentence there is, it may be exactly their mode of thought. There have been several times plans were announced that basically would require China to sacrifice its economic and security concerns to assist its enemies. Given those enemies believe men can become women if they believe hard enough, it was to be expected.

george 1
george 1
Reply to  Jack Dodson
7 months ago

Those whom the gods would destroy they first make insane.

Nicholas Name
Nicholas Name
Reply to  thezman
7 months ago

On weapon and material replacement: Rheinmettal (German weapon manufacturer in the article) is now going to build a factory for 155mm arty shells IN Ukraine. They say it will be at maximum production in 2025.

https://www.zerohedge.com/military/rheinmetall-shares-reach-new-high-plans-ammunition-plant-ukraine

How does anyone actually believe this is anything other than a money laundering operation? New armament factory…on a bombing range…producing in less than two years?

Like I told my ex wife, “At least give me good lies. These ones are just insulting.”

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Nicholas Name
7 months ago

Has to be BS. Russia would target such a construction in a heartbeat. It would never be finished, nor open during conflict. Yes, you wife is correct.

george 1
george 1
Reply to  Nicholas Name
7 months ago

If you build it, Kinzhal will come.

Guest
Guest
Reply to  Nicholas Name
7 months ago

It’s just a memorandum of understanding (MoU). It’s worth the paper on which it’s written.

This is most likely a pump and dump stock scam. Check out the stock chart in the story. Insiders will be dumping shares like mad.

Putin could turn this to his advantage by announcing that building such a plant in Ukraine would be tolerable to Russia in the context of a negotiated end to the war and security guarantees, including a guarantee that Ukraine does not join NATO.

Dutch Boy
Dutch Boy
Reply to  thezman
7 months ago

Of course, that is the reason this talk about war with China is absurd. We are economically dependent on them.

Peerless Price
Peerless Price
7 months ago

From a certain perspective I actually think sending weapons to Ukraine is a great investment as it drains Russia dry and will lead to their eventual defeat. Russia has lost about half of its male population. They cannot conquer forever. Ukraine will de destroyed but it can be rebuilt. Russia will be carved up in a few years when Putin dies.

AntiDem
AntiDem
Reply to  Peerless Price
7 months ago

Russia is not my enemy, and this useless brother war cooked up by sleazy neocon lunatics in Washington may be the evilest thing the Empire has ever done – and that’s really saying something.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Peerless Price
7 months ago

Peerless, worse analysis I’ve read. Are you serious?

thelikesofus
thelikesofus
Reply to  Peerless Price
7 months ago

You are writing nonsense.
Russia is not draining dry…. and to say it has lost half of its male population is ludicrous ! the attrition rate in the war in probably 10:1 in Russia’s favour.
Russia after Putin, who knows. I doubt his successor will be as patient with Europe and the USA.

george 1
george 1
Reply to  thelikesofus
7 months ago

You can say that again. For all of the West’s comparing him to Hitler, Putin is the moderate guy we could have made deals with. When he goes you get someone like Medvedev.

george 1
george 1
Reply to  Peerless Price
7 months ago

You might consider what the moderate Putin has said. Note that other possible successors to Putin have made much stronger statements.

Putin: “We have no need of a planet without Russia.” The neocons need to abandon their plans to “Carve up Russia” less they get carved up as well.

joey jünger
joey jünger
7 months ago

We might call it “the Crucible of Reason Fallacy” (coinage credit to Zman). Not only reason but public argument and debate are useless where more ironclad laws are at work. We’re not talking about something easy to see and understand, like Newtonian physics, but something trickier, invisible (mostly) and more elemental, like particle physics. Normiecons in the public square (grifters and sincere alike) think there’s an argument they can make to stop the toppling of statues and renaming of schools. Some of these arguments are even made by minorities—more blacks and Hispanics ironically than Asians, who are more well-behaved, but… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  joey jünger
7 months ago

The next “turning point” will be the 2024 elections. We will see how that bears out and that will determine the path taken for White survival.

BigJimSportCamper
BigJimSportCamper
Reply to  Compsci
7 months ago

The election results are already in, they just haven’t been broadcasted.

David Wright
Member
7 months ago

Citizens Free Press has posted that Biden wants to send America’s entire long range missiles to Ukraine. Denmark and I’m sure others are emptying out their defensive weapons also.

Is this not the greatest gift to Russia? Eventually take over the West and as a bonus disarm all the rest. The idiotic regimes in Western Europe are possibly thinking that the U.S. will defend them when they are disarmed. Oh boy, can’t wait to see how this plays out in the near future.

Down the line maybe Russia liberates us. At a cost , to be sure.

WCiv911
WCiv911
7 months ago

It used to be traditional wisdom now forgotten. The words of a prophet are written on the subways walls, the tenement halls, that the love of money is a root of evil.

Tashtego
Member
7 months ago

My understanding is that American corporations have just outsourced the slavery part as well because the profit margin on us made $500 sneakers and $1500 iphones was not high enough.

Chet Rollins
Reply to  Tashtego
7 months ago

There was guy in the D.C. area while back who expressed how great all the illegal migrants were, as they could do all the house and yard work for a paltry fee.

None of their moral grandstanding means anything to them, they simply want comfort and status, and illegal migrants give them status by allowing them to have indentured servants and destroying the middle class under them.

KingKong
KingKong
Reply to  Chet Rollins
7 months ago

This is the thing I have found really fascinating, how adamant they are to destroy the middle class. I guess it makes sense since the children of the middle class are real competition to their own progeny.

I’ve been to third-world shitholes like India and I’ve interacting with some extremely wealthy people there. They disgust me, the way they treat their servants. Truly petty tyrant stuff. I fear for the future of the West and the mediocracy that seems to be replacing meritocracy.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Chet Rollins
7 months ago

I have the pleasure—believe it or not—to have the ex-governor of Montana as a neighbor. We sometimes meet and talk while walking the dogs. He asks me about the university (currently embroiled in yet another scandal) and such things. He makes excuses for the President of my university, I demand his resignation. 😉 I ask him little, but did once ask what he thought of being at “ground zero” (Tucson) of an alien invasion. I related my experience in the field a decade ago (time flys). He remarked that he had a problem years ago when in office with Peruvians… Read more »

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Compsci
7 months ago

To somewhat paraphrase Z: how does having a bunch of foreign sheepherders benefit the country? If they’re so good at it why couldn’t they do that back home?

My guess would be that his Big Ag buddies told him that tall tale when the truth is that the real benefit of the little brown people is that they’ll do sheepherding for slave wages.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Compsci
7 months ago

Compsci: Sounds about right. For all that some believe the inland northwest will be the beginning of a White ethnostate, I have read far too many similar things of Montana, Idaho, North Dakota, etc. to share that hope. With apologies to Lineman, those states have been targeted just as Minnesota and Maine were. I don’t know that the natives have sufficient understanding/experience with alien people to withstand the coming tsunami.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  3g4me
7 months ago

Additionally, less densely populated areas in particular are vulnerable. Even with the open sewer to its south, Upstate New York has a large enough white population to remain so, while a white place with few people such as North Dakota can be subjugated almost overnight. Welfare availability also is a big draw that has to be taken into consideration, so that might redound to the benefit of North Dakota over time.

george 1
george 1
Reply to  3g4me
7 months ago

Boise Idaho today is Portland East. The mayor there is just as radical as the ones in Portland or Seattle.

The city council also has some radicals there as well. Idaho has busloads of “refugees” arriving every day. This to the delight of the GOP establishment governor.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  3g4me
7 months ago

3g4me. That’s why I often relate such stories. I’m pretty much alone. This group is my sounding board. Am I odd, or do other folks have such experiences/impressions?

Opinions are fine and welcome, but on the spot reporting of real life observations and experiences seem much more helpful in the world of MSM lies. And if I post too many, cut me some slack. I’m in my 70’s, what the hell else can I do? 😉

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Compsci
7 months ago

Some pleasure!!

RDittmar
Member
Reply to  Tashtego
7 months ago

“They’re turning kids into slaves just to make cheaper sneakers.
But what’s the real cost?
‘Cause the sneakers don’t seem that much cheaper.
Why are we still paying so much for sneakers
When you got them made by little slave kids
What are your overheads?”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLEK0UZH4cs

imnobody00
imnobody00
Reply to  RDittmar
7 months ago

They’re cheaper for the company, not for you.

The racket is to have cheap labor in poor countries and buy expensive in rich countries.

The love of money is the root of all evil

bgc
bgc
7 months ago

Lucid and fair analysis. For me – the fact that the pattern you describe has been, and is being, sustained strategically over two years – is further evidence consistent that this is *primarily* a war Against The West. Obviously “They” hate Russia, and would dearly love to see Russia destroyed as a nation (especially as a Christian nation). Yet the fact that the war has in fact enormously strengthened Russia, but “instead” consumed much of NATO’s materiel (and a Huge proportion of the Ukr. people) has made No Difference AT All to the strategy. To me – this means that… Read more »

WCiv911
WCiv911
Reply to  bgc
7 months ago

What an effective way to destroy your enemies, in this case white people, by getting them to make war on each other.

WhereAreTheVikings
WhereAreTheVikings
Reply to  bgc
7 months ago

Speaking of strategy to destroy Europe and its traditions, how ’bout them 75 million worth of huddled masses to whom the EU is rolling out the red carpet, all the while threatening “severe economic repercussions” to countries that don’t cooperate. So they get to pick which way they return to the Stone Age – inbred barbarians or no more IMF loans. The Old Right had no idea how right it was. I remember celebrating when the Berlin Wall came down and Yeltsin climbed up on that tank, not knowing an even more vicious communism within, cultural communism in service of… Read more »

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  WhereAreTheVikings
7 months ago

Breaking up the EU cannot happen fast enough

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  bgc
7 months ago

Agreed. A primary goal appears to have been the economic destruction of Germany. Mission nearly accomplished. It is hard to ascribe universal motives to every faction behind this madness. One faction, of course, saw the attack on German manufacturing almost as sexually arousing as trying to destroy the home of the Cossacks. I have to note this faction almost lost its shit over the weekend when even the weakling German chancellor indicated that trade with Russia will resume soon enough. The United States has been weakened in every measurable way now. It had precious little prestige left and that was… Read more »

george 1
george 1
Reply to  bgc
7 months ago

Also, look at the way the Ukrainians are fighting the war. It seems that their goal is to get as many of their soldiers killed as possible. In Avdiivka, they knew perfectly well that the Russians would drive them out weeks ago. Yet they wait until an orderly retreat is impossible before ordering said retreat.

This has been the pattern for their conduct during the entire war.
What else can the goal be if not to get as many soldiers killed as possible?

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
7 months ago

Thr short term way to get maximum work out of a horse is to work it to death. That’s the logical destination of focusing on short term profit. Even the ancient Egyptians knew not to eat the seed corn. But the people running Boeing ignored this and sacrificed their reputation for quality and safety to Sirens of profit. I don’t know when the roof will cave in but every metric says it will. Western countries from small Denmark, situated as the cork in the Baltic bottle – why would a country situated at the entrance to Russia’s most important port… Read more »

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
7 months ago

I know a guy who knows a guy who is training Ukraine pilots in the F-16. I asked him if this made any sense, if meaningful trading could even be accomplished in a few months (takes years for a U.S. fighter pilot to be proficient), if lacking an integrated mechanized fighting force if these things would be anything other than easy targets. He just shrugged his shoulders and said that wasn’t the Air Force’s problem. That, and that Russian air defenses are pretty good. Nobody cares about dead Ukrainians. It’s just about $$. Been obvious for years..yet the majority of… Read more »

Chet Rollins
Reply to  ProZNoV
7 months ago

A buddy of mine who works in defense lamented the uselessness of the Ukraine/Russia conflict, and added in dark humor, “but at least my Raytheon stocks are going up”.

mmack
mmack
7 months ago

The Munich Security Conference just ended

Yeah, because the last time a bunch of European leaders had a conference in Munich, it worked out well for a small Central/Eastern European country. 🙄

Do they not understand the imagery? 🤦‍♂️ I guess when history only goes back to yesterday you don’t.

usNthem
usNthem
7 months ago

Our society has become totally worthless – and degraded. Everything is subsumed by and for the almighty dollar – and up for sale. And boy can’t we just print those dollars up by the billions and trillions. Now that the legacy population has become as polluted as it is, there’s nothing binding us together as a nation. Sure there is some commonality at the local and regional levels, but that’s it. I seriously can’t imagine why anyone would step up to fight for this dumpster fire of a landmass, at the behest of this evil and corrupt government.

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  usNthem
7 months ago

I would join the Chinese or Russian army before fighting for this dump. Any ‘Murican flags I have would be better suited as butt wipes than as a symbol of “my country”.

I’m straight, white, hard working and law abiding – I don’t have a country…. Anything that would accelerate the destruction of these “United States” is something I can get behind.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Tired Citizen
7 months ago

Tired, I hear you. However, remember those virtues I warn you about every so often. They’ll gin up an existential 9/11 type crisis and enjoin a new generation of rubes to fight and die for their country. It’s a White thang…

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  Compsci
7 months ago

Unfortunately I see that happening sooner rather than later.

KingKong
KingKong
Reply to  usNthem
7 months ago

Guess that’s why they’re recruiting illegal aliens for the US Army. The real Americans have tuned out.

Ultimately the way this ends is with the slave classes taking over power from the old white people in power, just like it has happened in different eras.

These people are such fools, they think they can control all these brown and black people as servants and lapdogs, and laughing at the white working class. They don’t realize they’ll get consumed by the brown horde as well.