During the Cold War, planners concluded that nuclear war would most likely result from two closely related factors. One was the breakdown of communications between Washington and Moscow at all levels. It was not just the red phone between the Kremlin and the White House, but communications across both systems. The other factor that would lead to war was uncertainty about the other side’s intentions. This fear could result in runaway escalation ending in nuclear disaster.
The remedy for this was to maintain communications at all levels of government with the other side so that both sides knew the nuclear posture of the other. The American military had a range of contacts with the Russian military. The spy agencies had contacts with one another across a range of issues and regions. Members of Western media and the academy developed contacts with their analogs on an unofficial basis on behalf of the intel agencies.
The main reason the Cold War did not end in nuclear annihilation is that the two great managerial systems institutionalized communications in such a way that it became a specialty with career opportunities. In Russia, being an expert in some aspect of America meant a good life as a member of the new class. In America, having some expertise on Russia meant a comfortable life in the clouds. The Cold War standoff became a jobs program for both sides.
The selection pressure on both sides was for second and third order thinking, as both sides had an investment in the status quo. Foreign policy advisors in America thought about the downstream consequences of their recommendations because it could have a direct impact on their employment prospects. Similarly, on the Russian side, the pressure was always there to think about how the Americans would react as getting that wrong could mean being posted to the Urals.
This is what makes the present so dangerous. Washington’s proxy war with Russia lacks both the incentives to prevent escalation and the sorts of people who see it as their purpose to prevent escalation. Washington has cut off communications with Moscow and works to prevent others from developing their own channels. Europe has little contact now with Russia. The primary goal of Washington is to isolate Moscow, which means isolating the West from the world.
We see how this works in the recent beach attack in Crimea. Washington provides Ukraine with long range guided missiles. Ukraine lacks the ability to use them, so the American military provides the targeting and guidance of them, while the Ukrainians operate the ground-based launchers. Over the weekend, one of the missiles, which was armed with cluster munitions, hit a busy beach, killing half a dozen civilians and wounding hundreds of others.
This was most likely an accident. Either the targeting was wrong, as there is a military base nearby, or the missile malfunctioned. It is possible the air defense system knocked the missile off course instead of destroying it. It is also possible that the Ukrainians, in league with their neocon handlers, did something to target the missiles at civilian infrastructure, which has happened in the past. There is the rumor that the real target was the big Orthodox cathedral nearby.
The point is no one knows and more importantly, no one in Moscow knows what the intent was behind this attack. The Russians have stated that they think it was deliberate and they blame Washington. Moscow summoned the American ambassador, presumably to deliver a warning about future reprisals. Putin made clear that Moscow will retaliate, and it may not be against Ukraine. Everyone is left to guess as to what they mean but the empire has targets all over the world.
What has developed is a game of chicken in which the Biden administration keeps escalating, daring the Russians to respond, while the Russians try to figure out what Washington is actually trying to achieve. There is no benefit to the Russians in escalation, so they seek to avoid it. Logically, there is no benefit to the West in escalation, but they keep escalating, so Russia is left to guess as to what is the real motivation behind these escalations.
Where this leaves us is a place that is the reverse of the Cold War. There is no communication between the two sides and neither side knows what the other side is thinking or planning. On the surface, the Russian position is clear, but Western propaganda has anathematized accepting it at face value. The coordinated attacks on Nigel Farage from the entire political class is a good example. Merely pointing out the obvious gets you called a traitor.
It is easy to see how this can end horrifically. If the Russians, for example, declare a no-fly zone over the Black Sea, it is likely that Washington will keep sending drones toward Crimea and the Russians will have to knock them down. Washington will then send manned aircraft or maybe a British ship to threaten the Russian fleet. Such a situation could easily spiral out of control because one side thinks it can do anything it likes, and the other side knows it has to draw the line somewhere.
That gets to the heart of the matter. Over the last thirty years in the absence of that old Cold War system, the neocons have taken control of the foreign policy establishment to the point where there is no dissent in Washington. The system is now controlled by fanatics who lack second order thinking. Like all fanatics, the neocons see only that which satisfies their fanaticism. As a result, they imagine every move is furtherance of their goal of destroying their ancient enemy.
There is also the fact that America is a fading empire that still assumes Francis Fukuyama was right and this is the end of history. Thirty years of selecting for people good at enjoying the fruits of victory has left the managerial class in the West stocked with obsequious, narrow-minded dullards. A Jake Sullivan is in his position because he never asks questions and never has an original thought. These people are easily manipulated by the psychopaths of the Kagan cult.
The ultimate question that is being answered at the moment is whether the Global American Empire will go out with a bang or a whimper. In the fullness of time that will be the real history of this age. The emerging great powers of the world are trying to manage the decline of the West and the transition to a multipolar world, while the people running the West play a game of chicken. The reckless management of the Ukraine war suggests it will not end well.
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Those in charge of US foreign policy are very feminine compared to past generations. The group is mostly composed of women, low-T males, and fags.
Think of US foreign policy as a harpie shrew woman who keeps insulting and provoking her husband/boyfriend until he snaps and hits her. Then she can run off telling everyone how the mean, bad guy hit her and go scorched earth on him.
Yep. This is what happens when you have Jews, queers, and women in charge of your foreign policy. The White Men who controlled the U.S. in the 20th century — George Kennan (from whom I stole my pseudonym) Eisenhower, MacArthur, Marshall, etc. — may have been imperialists but they were intelligent, educated, and understood that their actions had consequences and their power had limits. Say what you will about a guy like George H.W. Bush but at least he was sober, rational, intelligent, patrician, and patriotic. I realize it is cliché to compare the decline of the U.S. to the… Read more »
I don’t know if I compare it to the decline of Rome as much as I would compare it to the breakup of the Soviet Union. The parallels are extremely eerie.
The difference is that the end-stage USSR was run by old guard party hacks and bureaucratic grifters, but not by degenerates, queers, trannies, women and Jews like the U.S.
I don’t recall any Soviet fags making videos of anal sex in the Politburo, like they did in the U.S. Senate just a few months ago. In terms of degeneracy we’re more like Rome:
EXCLUSIVE: Senate Staffer Caught Filming Gay Sex Tape In Senate Hearing Room (GRAPHIC) | The Daily Caller
XMan: “I don’t recall any Soviet fags making videos of anal sex in the Politburo, like they did in the U.S. Senate just a few months ago.”
That’s because Saint Joseph Djugashvili built a wall around the East, which wall, for more than four decades, protected the people of the East from (((the Mind Virus))).
Never misunderestimate the genius of Saint Joseph Djugashvili.
TempoNick: “The parallels are extremely eerie.”
Especially the omnipresence of the j00ish menace.
Blaming all of this on the neocons is just a paleocuck dodge that fools no one except the elderly and the stupid. Blaming all of this on the Jews is to force them to defend their own. That goes for Ukraine and it goes for Gaza. Someone here used to have this neat line about not chasing the stick. But not throwing it either? I’m reminded of the Stonetoss cartoon with the guy waiting to be shot in the back of the head while wearing his Don’t Tread On Me shirt and worrying aloud about being as bad as the… Read more »
Who, then, do you blame it on?
Somebody is making the decisions. Who?
Help us out here, soldier.
Is there a target, a possible line of attack?
Here’s my taxonomy of our most powerful enemies within our nation: • J3ws whose loyalty is making our country most comfortable for j3ws. These people ensure that kids learn about the holocaust in kindergarten and that j3ws are exempt for anti-white practices. They see traditional whites as an existential threat. They incite non-whites to hate whites. • J3ws whose loyalty is to protecting Israel. This group differs from the previous in that they want to crush the Palestinians with little concern for the political problems that this causes in our country. They see traditional whites as gullible cannon fodder. • Whites and others who… Read more »
Alzaebo: “Somebody is making the decisions. Who?”
You Know Who
Curt Doolittle has written about the feminine nature of how the Abrahamic religions – and, in particular, the Jews – attack an enemy. It’s a very different method than NW Europeans, who use masculine lines of attack.
It’s all about subversion and exclusion and responsibility avoidance. Neocons act like teenage girls because that’s how they think. And the feminine attack strategy can be very successful – just look at the West – but it crashes against the rocks when the other side refuses to allow them into their society and builds their own groups.
This is way beyond Abrahamic religions. India, Latin America…
Disagree with you in part, nobody. Citizen is talking about how the nonwhite breeder hindbrain works.
As Ostei said, “they’ve absorbed the moral system of their tormenters.”
The danger of Abrahamic literature is that it could make one a carrier of that emosocial hindbrain mindset.
Please remember, the religions are throwing darts in the dark, hoping to observe if this or that works, without knowing why. Without an engine diagram.
(This relates also to your brilliant comment on “nobody in Saudi Arabia wanting to do things a Muslim doesn’t want to do”, re societal morality. Kudos on that one.)
I suppose the Muslims fall under the feminine attack rubric because of their love of suicide bombing?? I’m think that, in that case, it’s a matter of not having aircraft carriers and 2000 lb bombs to do their deeds. For the Jews (and those goyim who imitate them), yes I can see it. They very much prefer mindfuckery to overt violence.
Pre-Christian northwest Europeans were savages who raped each others wives for a living and ate dung for dinner.
And that’s…what? A bad thing? Good thing? Help me out here.
Antidem, aren’t you the guy who said Russia was nothing but a gas station run by drunken peasants?
Lucius Sulla: “low-T males, and fags” Xman: “queers” Back in the day, when Steve Sailer was still readable, he used to posit that perhaps the s0d0mites were being driven by some sort of an hyper-testosterone; that perhaps the s0d0mites became so h0rny mere missionary PIV intercourse no longer interested them. Kinda similar to the old meme about “Type-A” personalititties & drinking too much caffeine. It’s certainly true that all the strapping young s0d0mites are receiving anabolic steroid injections on a regular basis, in order to look like body builders. PRO-TIP: Anabolic steroids shrivel up your nads and send your sperm… Read more »
The people in charge seem like lunatics or fanatics only if one assumes that their loyalty lies with the United States and Americans, rather than a smallish country in the Levant and a certain tribe that favor small hats. Once you understand where their loyalties lie, all their actions are entirely sensible. These people care not one whit for America or Americans, full stop. America is now nominally ruled by a illegitimate President with the mental capacity of a potato who was installed in a rigged, fraudulent election. In point of fact, a better way to think about the Biden… Read more »
Spot on.
You just wonder how much more s*** the Russians will take – civilians and soldiers being killed, infrastructure being damaged or destroyed, and mostly by the good old USA, the most moral and benevolent country in the history of humanity – all while suffering zero consequences itself. The decades of no direct attack on the “homeland” are going to come to an end in a catastrophic fashion if these neocon tards aren’t dealt with. It doesn’t look promising.
One idea is for them to play kingmaker among the Mexican cartels to generate some chaos on both sides of the border. With an effective civil war on both sides of it’s border, GAE’s ability to project power would be effectively neutered.
The “Mexican” cartels are CIA property. For Russia to play “kingmaker”, they’d first need to infiltrate Langley.
That’s just it, if they can find an unaligned cartel (or make one) and then give them extra spicey gear and intelligence to give them an edge it would be of benefit to them, at least in the short run. The fact that they haven’t done it yet maybe means they don’t want their own ‘bin Laden’ issue in the future, or, quite possibly, I’m making it sound easier than it is.
Hol’ up, the Chinese have invested over $2 billion in fentanyl precursor factories there in Baja, just south of the border.
That, and it isn’t Russian “migrants” crossing the Darien Gap, the Chinese soldiers even have their own camp…right nearby the ones operated by Mayorkas.
The basic and decades old Russian defense doctrine remains–No wars will be fought on Russian soil, and nukes will be used to prevent that if necessary…
I don’t know much about Russia, but they have to be getting to the point where they realize it is time for Zelenskyyyyyyyyyyy and the Kiev regime to go. It’s interesting how, whenever these sort of people get some measure of power in some sort of conflict, terrorist attacks immediately follow. This has been true since the 19th century in Tsarist Russia, it was true in the Levant in the 20th century, it was true in Afghanistan, it was true in Iraq after Saddam was executed, it is true of ISIS, it is true of the Mexican cartels, so on… Read more »
The future may well look like murky tit-for-tat “terrorist” events like spectacular one-off failures. A bridge here, a building collapse there, an airliner downing, a massive appearance of drugs into a medium sized city. (By the time our press gets done “reporting” there is no telling what the truth is, but in general, one can pretty much bank on the US gov lying 100%) At this point, the empire is so dysfunctional that it isn’t clear how much damage might be the product of natural decline/decay and how much might be helped along by the Empire’s enemies getting funded to… Read more »
You gotta hand it to the Clown World propaganda apparatus, Putin = Hitler and there is nothing that can change the mind of anybody in the west about that. “Unprovoked” through repetition early and often, is the gospel. It all seems to me rather reminiscent of Lindbergh (not that Farage is on his level). My contempt for the majority of my gullible fellow “citizens” is entrenched.
It’s easy to hate Putler when you don’t have skin in the game. I hope very much that if this stupid war gets NATO directly involved, and Western officials start talking conscription, then public support for Ukraine evaporates. After all, the biggest cheerleaders of the regime are Boomers and leftists, both of whom can’t fight well. People on the Right will be highly skeptical and many could refuse to fight, especially with the Dems in charge.
No sane young man would fight for the commies and trannies…Especially when women and low IQ blacks will be commanding him…
OTOH, cattle shuffle into the chutes of the abattoir and to their end.
I find it impossible to hate Putin because I don’t know anything about him. The only things I know about Putin are Western talking points. Talking points is the only way the Western press talks about him. He supposedly jails and kills journalists. Good. He was a KGB man. OK. George Bush ran the CIA. That didn’t make him Hitler. He kills/jails his political enemies. OK, if you say so. He is a dictator with fake elections.
99.9% of the people exclaiming their hatred of Putin know about as much about him as I do. It’s all fake and gay.
To hate Putin based upon the reasons you list is to absob the moral system of AINO’s power structure.
“The only things I know about Putin are…”
about Noriega
about Gaddaffi
about Kim
about Tojo
about, about, about…
But does he declare his founding stock domestic terrorists?
Israel jails and kills journalists and the American government helps cover it up for them in the media and the UN. America kills and jails its political enemies. America has fake elections. If Putin is a dictator, at least the Russians know who is in charge. We have no idea here. Really what this comes down is this entire frame of the morality of liberal democracy is totally fake and gay – everything that America accuses others of doing, it has done and is doing tenfold, and the only difference is that the guys with the most guns say that… Read more »
Israel is rising in my esteem. Seriously, one thing about clownworld I hate so much is the pedestal “journalists” are put on (mostly by themselves) and how the law never applies to them. I especially despise the way they talk about themselves. There is no group of people who deserve to be in camps than “Journalists” and celebrities.
It’s one thing to be the mouthpiece of globohomo/AINO, but it’s another thing to heap praise on yourself for your alleged protecting the little people and defending freedom and democracy while doing so.
I hate the globohomo/AINO mouthpieces as much as anyone. Before you tip your cap to Israel’s behavior, though, remember that they are killing journalists who are actually on the ground, in a war zone, documenting its atrocities with the intent on reporting on them. This is why Israel kills them. They are not sitting in an air-conditioned office in Washington rewriting emails they got from the Pentagon before they go back to their $1.2 million home. It’s also not like the globohomo/AINO mouthpieces have any consideration or respect for the actual journalists – as we have seen in the Assange… Read more »
The most recent polling data I could find, which is over a year old, showed that 21 percent of Americans hold a favorable view of Putin. This is twice the number of people who hold a favorable view of the US Congress. This is astounding, given the full court press of anti-Putin propaganda being dished up by the West.
Don’t give up on all your fellow citizens. At least twenty percent are free thinkers.
I don’t find that number surprising. As I said, the “majority” of my fellow citizens
The idea that “Putin is Hitler” is risibly absurd to anyone with even the most cursory knowledge of World War II.
Hillary Clinton actually said “Putin is like Hitler” when she was Secretary of State, for f–k’s sake:
Hillary Clinton says Putin’s actions are like ‘what Hitler did back in the ’30s’ – The Washington Post (archive.is)
What an utterly ignorant, stupid twat.
OT: The regime is going to release Assange just in time for election campaign. Not pardoning Assange was one of Trump’s bigger failures.
Releasing Assange shows that they still care about the veneer of “democracy,” which this allows them to maintain. In spite of the fact that the mission was already accomplished – they have destroyed the man, and set the example.
In the fullness of time, Assange will be a hero in the world of the press. Perhaps a prestigious award will be named after him.
Whatever the press was in the past, it is now just the propaganda arm of the state staffed with the worst sorts of worms pretending to be people.
I don’t get the idea that they’ll release him.
They’ll claim him as one of theirs after they hang him.
At first, I figured Assange must be at death’s door and that wasn’t a great look. (Silly me). But after hearing Greenwald’s explanation of Assange’s served time is exactly matched to the proposed sentence it might be a case of “Two birds, one stone”. Yes, the veneer of democracy bullshit must be maintained for the cheap seats in the back, and also Assange’s release is 99% risk management. They shuttled him straight back to Australia, avoiding any and all US legal processes on US soil (and all risk of opening his mouth during US election). Sickenly, as you say, all… Read more »
You ate wrong. He wasn’t ewleased and shuttled back to Australia. He’s being taken to a US Island colony.
He is yet to be free.
From my brief reading, I’m wondering if the regime did release Assange. Didn’t the current plea deal come after Britain finally refused to extradite Assange—citing their believe he would not get his rights in the *USA*? Seems the current plea deal is a sop to save face for the GAE. Assange took it of course as he has been wrongly imprisoned for seemingly forever now. Sort of like Gitmo.
Correct. They are supposed to give him jail time and then say that he already sat in prison long enough and release him. A “win-win”, sort of, and Assange will end up in the prison colony called Australia.
The story is that the Australian PM was pushing for it. So between that and the UK’s foot dragging on extradition, maybe this was done to keep the vassals happy.
Agree. Have to wonder this was one of the agenda items in Obama’s recent trip to 10 Downing.
Was that a flex or what? It would have presented no difficulty to have the meeting in secret where nobody knew. But that sonofabitch wanted us to know
That hand on Biden’s back (last weekend in LA) struck me the same way – a flex of some sort. No one reported that Biden’s Secret Service guys were busy getting mugged out back by local hoods while Obama was obnoxiously steering Biden off the stage.
It’s more about depriving Trump a debate issue.
The fact is, there is a lot of overlap between the anti-genocide Democrats and the release-Assange Democrats. This is a sop to them, but I don’t think it will work. I don’t blame Assange for taking the deal, I can’t imagine what he has been through at the hands of the evil GAE regime, but in the end, it’s disappointing that he was forced to plead guilty and has a little “I always loved Big Brother” feel to it. He was a journalist and not a citizen of the USA and had no obligation to keep evidence of American war… Read more »
Assange was released as a shot across the bow at Hillary Clinton, in case she has thoughts about pulling any convention shenanigans, either on her own behalf or someone else’s. She has the most to fear from his Seth Rich revelations.
Good point…
There’s a Crowd-Fund for Assange, who has to pay 512k for the charter flights…If finances permit, everyone should chip in….
Yes, but they’re charging Assange 520k for the charter flights to the islands to plead guilty and then to Australia, where he’s a citizen…They’re raising money, and I will contribute along with many others….
Definite black eye for Trump to be used in the debate…
How is it a black eye for Trump? Bring it up and Trump will retort that the Biden administration had 3+ years to correct the situation and did nothing. Sounds like it won’t even be mentioned.
I tend to think that if Biden mentions Assange in the debate, most of his supporters will say “Who’s this Asang guy?”
I have a different theory on this. I think Biden was installed to take the heat for some unpopular things. Inflation was one of them. We printed a lot of money and remember Trump’s tariffs? Assange and Snowden maybe some more unpopular things they want to stick Joe Biden with. Likewise, getting out of Afghanistan. I wouldn’t be surprised if we made a deal with the Taliban to leave everything there and Joe had to take the heat for it.
Who knows what’s going on anymore? It’s all very weird and seems orchestrated at the same time.
Jesus, that’s just all kinds of stupid. Can you breathe with your nose planted so far up Bide’s arse?
It also doesn’t help that our military leaders are all true believers in the latest managerial fads such as sodomy and don’t really give a damn about fighting wars or making sure we can procure useful armaments. The Obama administration purged most of the actually competent officers O-5 and above that would be our generals and admirals now and kept the politically reliable lickspittles who’ll be more useless than tits on a boar hog if the balloon goes up.
What Obama did was inevitable for a decadent, decaying empire in thrall to a ridiculous ideology. If it leads to a military collapse and loss of legitimacy for the empire, so be it. I would say, far from not helping, it puts us back on a path towards the Good, the Beautiful, and the True.
The beach attack was deliberate. Cluster munitions are anti-personnel ordnance. You don’t use them to take out a cathedral.
Agreed, it was deliberate. Now the ball’s very much in Putin’s court. Whatcha gonna do about it, punk?
Sure you would, if your purpose was to deny the adversaries usage of that cathedral without necessarily destroying it.
Cluster munition, not FASCAM. CM not very useful against structures and they are designed to explode on impact. FASCAM are atry-delivered minefields. The munitions in this case looked like CM on video.
Holy shit…!!!
Personally, I would welcome our new Russian overlords. Shutting down the feminotsees and the sexual degenerates would be a win. Nuking New York and/or Los Angeles would be a cherry on top.
Being a westerner
As I consider everything east of the Missouri River flyover country I’d appreciate if youall pick those targets. I already sent uncle Vlad my requests. Seattle, Portland, Sacramento, Los Angeles & an extra thousand megatons for san francisco. I sure hope he gets my post card real soon.
Spingerah: We’ll have to negotiate. I have a grandson in Alabama, and Zman is in West Virginia. Also know some good folks in Tennessee.
I’ve got kids in LA… I’m starting to feel like Abraham bargaining for Sodom.
Looking down from 10,000 feet isnt this kinda Trostsky’s revenge on Russia? The background of many in the neocon faction in the United States seems to be Trotsky.
So Trotsky now 80 years later has his fanatics in control of the foreign policy of the United States.
I see it more driven by longstanding British Empire, and by extension GAE, hatred for Russia. The one part of the global land mass they were never able to conquer or control.
Both. The Brits are still fighting the Crimean War (even though they no longer have an army), while Trotskyists run U.S. foreign policy.
Britain has never had a hatred for Russia. Britain has beeen allied with Russia more times than it’s been an enemy. Russia was a useful power to draw off French or Prussian power and keep the Austrians and Ottomans honest. If Russia didn’t exist Britain would have to invent it. By the logic of 500 years of British/English foreign policy the UK should have sat out the Ukrainian war and watched an assertive Russia demostrate on the eastern marches of the European empire; an empire which openly calls for the eradication of the UK. It’s very Third World to blame… Read more »
Britain certainly has a hatred for Russia right now. If you can’t see that, you probably couldn’t spot it historically either I guess
The Muscovy Company was Incorporated in 1555 to “explore” – read exploit, Russia.Unlike India (that’s dot Indians to you) the looting of Russia never really worked Why couldn’t the Russias just lie down, the Patels could?. Catherine the Great’s 1783 final removal of the Ottomans from Crimea and the settlement of the wasteland’s that later became Ukraine established Russia as a Major Black sea power and was seen by Britain as a threat to their God given right to Eastern Mediterranean dominance and thus to their Colonies in the East. (Including Cyprus, btw where the UK still has Sovereign territory… Read more »
For over a century the destiny of the Russian people has been determined by a dispute between competing German-speaking Jewish factions of the editorial board of a British communist newspaper…
Sounds about right.
The background of the neocons is Trotsky–what exactly do you mean by this?
I assume he means that a lot of the Eastern European and Russian Jews who migrated to the US in the early 20th century and proceeded to create what would become the Neocon cult were Trotskyites.
Fair enough.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Kristol
They’re not shy about it.
But that;s their version. Go read the Kol Nidre and then tell me why you should believe them.
The neocons background goes back to the Pale of Settlement, long predating Trotsky. Galicia has been the home of trouble-making assholes for several hundred years.
Theodore Beale (aka Vox Day) has written extensively about the ties the US neocons have to Trotsky. Yes, they are Trotskyites.
Looking back at the Reagan years, the amnesty for Russian Jews was far, far more damaging to the country than the amnesty for Cuban refugees. Who knew?
A good example of managing a crisis was the Soviets shooting down Korean Airlines Flight 007, a passenger airliner, on Sept. 1, 1983. At first it seemed a provocation. U.S. right-wingers, led by the neocons as they just were moving up the power ladder, said Moscow was provoking us. Fortunately, the president was Reagan, not Biden. It soon turned out the plane had veered off course and the Russian pilot shot too fast. It was an accident. Armageddon averted.
I think the form of retaliation that Putin would like to perform is through proxies, just as the US is using its Ukrainian proxy to attack Russia. So, for example, Russian advisors with advanced anti-aircraft and anti-ship missiles may already be assisting Hezbollah in Lebanon in preparation for the probable US attacks in conncection with the Israeli offensive. The presence of such weapons will, at best, force the US Navy to operate from great distances and use stand-off weapons, or at worse, destroy aircraft and damage ships. The US also has a number of bases in the Middle East or… Read more »
Syria looms large if that route is taken
If a U.S. ship was damaged but not sunk, would the world ever know it? Particularly with stand-off weapons and no enemy witnesses. When the Navy loses a ship to gross negligence from fire in the docks at San Diego (Bonhomme Richard), ships heavily damaged and sailors dead when the crash into each other or civilian ships, or subs run into sea mountains…it’s “oopsie daisy”. But the “invulnerability” of the US Navy, especially the carrier, must never, ever be questioned. The Russians aren’t going to shoot at, or allow their proxies to shoot at Navy ships. Because the Americans would… Read more »
Would go?
You’d think that eventually it would get out. Somebody from the crew would talk, sooner or later. This is the main reason I discount the hypothesis that TWA 800 was shot down by a naval missile. Not that I believe the official story either.
The Houthis in Yemen have been shooting at US Navy ships for some time now. They may have even hit one, or possibly a Royal Navy vessel. I see no reason why Hezbollah would refrain from attacking US Navy vessels that are acting in support of Israeli ground and air attacks.
Bring down the EBT system for 72 hours?! Pah! You’re crazier than a vampire at a blood bank. That would be worse than nukes!
The Black Exchange- the exchange for criminal hackers, worldwide- was located, oddly enough, in the Ukraine.
But…what if it were located in eastern Ukraine, in the Russian-speaking areas?
Surely they might have some opinions in regards to the US EBT system.
Except for the fact that was standard operating procedure for the Ukes since 2014.
“The system is now controlled by fanatics who lack second order thinking.” I also think civilians were deliberately targeted. I also think a moderate like Putin is the wrong man for the job now. If the US lunatics want to escalate, Russia should be willing to. But Russia under Putin is not. He is a most reluctant and diffident warrior. Words and threats only go so far and then it becomes like the boy who cried “Wolf!” — people stop taking the words and threats seriously. I think the nihilistic lunatics who are actually making the decisions in the Deep… Read more »
My read is the Russians still do not understand the problem. They think at some point the Europeans will tire of being American pawns. That is why they hesitate it escalate. They are thinking about after the war. They also have the relationships with China, Saudi Arabia, India and others to maintain. It benefits Russia to look like the reluctant warrior. That said, I see no evidence that the Russians understand who is running the empire. I find that astounding, given their love of history.
Putin explicitly said that he doesn’t know who is in charge of the US. At least that is his public position.
Well, Putin has made a few comments about Israel and the US government….
It makes sense that the Russians don’t know who runs the empire since we under its thumb also are clueless about it.
Well, Putin bought into the whole Covid thing. So he’s probably the Russian version of a Boomer…in his mind, it’s always 1986, and he can’t grasp the changes in the American Empire since then. Neither can his lieutenants, obviously.
Trump is similar in that he seems wise to the overall situation at times, but then says something ridiculously out of touch. I guess this is what happens when you have 70-year-old alpha-male leaders.
Trump and Putin are both deep emotional adherents to “image”-level American propaganda, from the John Wayne frontier of their youth to present-day military multiculturalism. They’re too old to change their minds, impervious to events, etc. They both regard America—not the actual state or people, always disappointing, but the great dream Other to real-world badness—as axiomatically good. They’ll die believing it.
What Putin understands is that the Kagans and AINO expect and want him to channel the spirit of Mustache Guy and respond to provocation by widening the war like OG MG in 1941, because MG had the emotional continence and strategic acumen of a toddler (like the entire contemporary State Department in AINO). Putin is the exact man for the moment. I have maintained that Putin is not playing the game like that. He wants to contain this round of war to a regional war against Ukraine, and not widen it to Western Europe. He wants to finish this war,… Read more »
This. Whether he can pull it off in the face of endless US provocations or not is another thing.
Before this war can end, Russia will need to collapse NATO and expel American forces from everywhere east of the Rhein. This is straightforwardly obvious and should not even be controversial. The significant questions only begin to be asked after you’ve already accepted this as a datum. Now, either Russia understands this, or it doesn’t. If Russia does understand this, then the slow pace it has been taking with Ukraine is incredibly hard to justify. Yes, there was a case to be made in the early days of the war that Russia should not provoke NATO too much too soon,… Read more »
Hell, we’re not sure who us running the empire.
All I know is it ain’t me, and probably not you.
And it’s certainly not Joey Depends.
Oh that’s easy: The Elders of Buy-in.
From that Putin interview with Tucker my guess is that Putin thinks the security agencies are in charge because that’s how he took power in Russia. So the Russians don’t really understand the influence of Israel and the Neocohens, although they have enough knowledge to make sure their war propaganda is about “defeating Nazism” in order to try and disarm the (((Ukrainians))) crying out in pain as they strike.
It’s also likely that Russians in general have the same problem as the evangelicals here where they just can’t seem to figure out how much the Jews actually hate them.
I think Putin does know. He’s on record as publicly stating in a value-free just the facts ma’am way that the Usual Suspects were more than just over-represented before, during, and after the Revolution. He’s on YouTube somewhere at a commemorative event for either the Moscow State Jewish Theatre (1919-48) or the Igor Moiseyev (yup) Ballet (1937-present) and in his remarks states directly that as soon as they got into power they set up their own state cultural institutions, as one does. He can’t come out and point the finger at the Eumenides for a few reasons: (a) justifiable worry… Read more »
My quick musing on this situation is to wonder if Russia might not take this incident to the UN. Address the technical situation and explain the requirement of heavy US involvement, then make a case for condemnation and future prevention through force of arms—like no fly zone over Black Sea. My thinking goes back to our invasion of Iraq in Gulf War II and our Sec of State harping over Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction which did not exist at the time. If nothing else, it makes for a good show. It might also tempt some of the big players… Read more »
Taking it to the UN would be a brilliant judo throw. Great call. Seize those headlines and the narrative.
It is worse than a death wish. The psychopaths cannot even conceive of their own deaths, which is the ultimate denial of second order thinking. Putin has delayed and deployed rationality with crazy people, so he bears some of the blame there.
I agree. I would hope that he’s a Michael Corleone, who was looking for the strategically right moment to strike back at the Barzini-Tattaglia axis but I think he’s more of a Tom Hagen, who simply wanted to avoid fighting no matter what the provocation and escalation.
Putin’s. hand is going to be forced, because there’s no doubt that Medvedev would make short work of the Ukraine… and NATO, if it interfered…The Russian public is impatient…
I have more faith in Medvedev than Putin.
I have to disagree with the impatient ones, because remember where Russia is at economically and militarily.
They are still in the building phase. This is like urging India or Brazil to attack someone.
That’s precisely why Russia is being provoked at this moment, before they get stronger.
It’s the same M.O. they use against Trump and his supporters; attack, provoke, riot, act crazy and unpredictable to put ‘the scare in you’ (witness the recent AOC and Bowman Bronx rally), break every rule, law, tradition, and just be as outrageous as possible, but if you dare to even criticize anything they do they want you absolutely ruined and of course, now you are Hitler, too. I think it stems from the ‘zero tolerance’ policies the last probably 35 years or more that kids have grown up under and we know who those adults were who made those rules:… Read more »
Say what you will about Jamal Bowman, he’s opposed by AIPAC.
Controlled opposition. All of the pro-Palestine protests funded by Soros are a ruse to unify the fractuous Tribals against a common threat.
The Negros have been used in this double-tongued way since Civil Rights.
A late-night broadcaster in Chicago, ‘Clay’ somebody, used to take his listeners on annual cruises to Palestine. The FBI rat who flooded the hood with heroin and guns and created the fake, gay ‘movement’ called Nation of Islam, “Elijah Muhummid”, was actually Eli Wallace, a finkel from Brooklyn before his surgeries. (The ‘movement’ was a call to turn Mississippi into a breakaway African Islamic state.)
In Bowman’s case the enemy of my enemy is definitely not my friend.
His wikipedia page confuses me. Says his first job out of college was as a “crisis management teacher at an elementary school.” WTF. Then it says he was the “founder” of a public middle school. First time I ever heard of an individual being credited as the founder of a public school.
Wikipedia article likely written by a boon or a pack of them. Of course it’s incoherent.
“Thirty years of selecting for people good at enjoying the fruits of victory has left the managerial class in the West stocked with obsequious, narrow-minded dullards.”
Well, we had a money-printing press and military dominance, so the Regime could operate without any feedback or fear, whether in foreign policy or in domestic spending/policy. But we’re getting to the point of consequences. The inflation is just round 1. The failure in Ukraine is round 2. You’d think it would sober them up. But it’s obviously going to take a major debacle to clean house.
I wish I could disagree with your assessment. The people in charge are absolutely deranged.
The system is now controlled by fanatics who lack second order thinking. This is the bottom line and why I have thought all along this will end in a nuclear catastrophe. These types exist always in every system but successful polities keep them at bay. The GAE did so for a very long time, but now is dominated by the psycopaths. The Russians will retaliate now. They have no other choice. Innocent Americans and Russians will die unless the revenge is extracted in such a way it terrifies the Ruling Class enough not to escalate but to excise the human… Read more »
“…so Russia is left to guess as to what is the real motivation behind these escalations.” I think this is easy and the Russians have figured it out, already. They know with certainty two things: The US regime wants – actually, needs – a major war with Russia. The US public wants nothing to do with this. So the regime escalates using weird third party actors (Moscow massacre, Nordstream pipeline) or unfortunate “accidents” like at the beach. They can’t be seen DOING these things as that would provoke the US public and the whole “we’re the good guys” narrative collapses… Read more »
Russians think we are already in multipolar world, while the US led West is still guided by unipolar arrogance. In reality, we are somewhere in-between and most likely going towards full multipolarity.
Unfortunately, both big players on the multipolar side, Russia and China, expressed their interest in multipolar world order under the leadership of the UN.
Hubris. We overestimated our strength and ability and vastly underestimated theirs.
Last week Putin open up North Korea. Maybe the most amazing diplomatic coup in decades. Then he visited Vietnam to get the whole gang back together. I’ll bet Russian diplomacy settles the territorial disputes between China, India, and Vietnam where American escalation couldn’t.
He’s winning and will keep winning unless he takes the bait and gets pulled into WWIII. They would still “win” for what it’s worth.
The Biden administration rushed people to Vietnam after Putin went. Embarrassing. They do this kind of thing all the time. They do it with Trump too. If Trump visits somewhere they have to do a counter visit and it always falls flat.
“Logically, there is no benefit to the West in escalation, but they keep escalating.”
They believe Putin’s gonna cuck.
Their logic says Putin = american cuckservative, and that he’ll cuck if you put pressure on him.
Reality is Russia’s gonna bomb the shit out of scandinavian and baltic countries till US leaves. That’s the future, that’s when Europe can start kicking migrants out.
Russians won’t start bombing Europe over Crimea, but they will when Nato launches missiles into Moscow or Sankt Petersburg.
Putin isn’t a Republican, unfortunately for them. But, yeah, they still believe he will cuck. They believed they could meme him out of existence. The lunatics run the GAE
Serious question. At what point does the imminence of a nuclear war justify a real armed rebellion against DC (not the phony Stasi led Jan 6th variety)? If the rational component of the citizenry comes to believe that the corrupt idiots pulling Biden’s strings are Hellbent on killing us all via a nuke exchange with Russia, how does a civil interdiction happen, especially when time is of the essence? Shouldn’t there be a contingency plan for this eventuality? Is there a peaceful mechanism available that can stop them short of a hot confrontation? Perhaps a spontaneous flash mob of several… Read more »
The Covid Captivity, the stolen election, governmental sanction of BLM terrorism–all of these conjunctures justified overthrowing the government. If it becomes clear (perhaps it already is) the power structure is herding us into a thermonuclear abyss, that too would justify a revolution.
How to go about executing it, however, is idle talk. The vast majority of AINO’s subjects are so utterly oblivious and satiated by material largesse that they wouldn’t even think about lamppost solutions. These people will sit still for being cooked in a nuclear exchange rather than actually use all that ammo they’ve been stockpiling.
Agreed. People only will respond to economic deprivation. It is why we cannot rule out a nuclear cull might be a feature rather than a bug for the Regime. I think the cavalier attitude is the result of insanity, hubris and stupidity, but a few million deaths might be more than a statistic for the lunatics.
“Mr. President, I’m not saying we wouldn’t get our hair mussed. But I do say…no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops. Uh…depending on the breaks.”
The Viet Cong prevailed, as did the Taliban, and now the Houti. Why can’t based Americans do likewise? The Stasi, HLS, and military are now substantially woke. And all the remaining good ones in those outfits are probably non-woke and will likely crossover if things really do go hot. I think all we’re missing is a spark.
There is no logistical network whatsoever to support any such activity
It’s one thing to win on your own home court. Something else altogether to win on the road. We’re the road team in the most hostile of arenas.
The American Right Wing is totally disorganized and temperamentally allergic and vaccinated against organizing. You can’t have an effective revolt or even meaningful political movement without organization, which starting from zero would take at least two decades to build.
This is why the most likely outcome in the next 10 years is left wing dictatorship, as the system will massively overreact to developing right wing organization and refuse internally driven reform.
Won’t happen. What might happen is a “reverse Seven Days in May” coup where military officers who realize that the present course will lead to a nuclear exchange with tens of millions of dead and hundreds of million injured, would take action to depose the present government.
This really is the most important issue; maybe the only issue. Getting FREAKIN’ NUKED makes all the worries about immigration and trannies quite irrelevant. Even SPF 1million sunscreen aint gonna help, ya dig?
I hope there is a peaceful collapse and separation someday. Maybe Russia and China can “reagan” the US out of commission through economic, military, and internal propaganda pressure.
There is a solid 20% of the AINO population who would exclaim “at least it’s not Trump” as the nukes were flying
That gives a whole new meaning to the old Cold War slogan “Better Dead Than Red,” doesn’t it?
better dead than orange?
Look, everybody, the CIA runs our country and has since they killed JFK (probably since their creation after the war). Whatever is happening is their doing. Try to imagine a circumstance where they would allow others to control things. You can’t, can you?
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Off topic: People like to rag on me for taking the contrarian view of the current fad of keeping your kids out of college and pushing them into the trades. Everybody thinks their kid is going to be Mike Rowe, but this should settle the argument once and for all. This is what 61-year-old (now 62) Mike Rowe looks like as of about 6 months ago.
WHO is Mike Rowe?
And, WHICH ONE of those geezers IS Mike Rowe?
(Am I supposed to…? I don’t get it…)
And better still, who gives a flyin’ flock?
Mike Rowe is a failed opera singer who stumbled into a career as a regime propagandist.
That’s what you see on that face.
Just something I snipped off another page because to me this is another one of those existential topics where a lot of people want to go in the wrong direction: It utterly **depends** what you’re planning to do.Want to be a plumber or electrician or welder? Absolutely go to a trade school, you’ll make a fortune and you better get by your 50s before your body starts to bail.Want to be a doctor, nurse, lawyer, accountant, civil engineer? You damn well *better* to go to college, states require it for licensure.Want to work in corporate America? You *should* go to… Read more »
Rowe was a professional ballet performer. Physically, he’s probably as fit and tight as a guitar string.
Both lads lookin’ pretty robust to this 65 year-old. Neither is fat or loose, the core strength is still there. (Mike Rowe of “Dirty Jobs” fame is the unshaven one.)
And I double-damm guarantee you, they’ve both had a hella lot of adventures; no day is the same.
Nick. Keeping your kids out of college is not a fad. Really. Yeah a lot of folk here talk big—and they are *not* entirely incorrect—but I think it’s really a matter of whether your kid and college are a good fit. A lot of kids and their parents think that a college education is an important step into adulthood, a golden ticket so to speak. It is not necessarily. There are already twice as many young folk in college/university as there is any reason to think belong there. I read awhile back somewhere that we are seeing students with IQ’s… Read more »
I have no doubt whatsoever that, thanks in no small measure to the project to crowd out whites and flood the academy with wogs, over half of college students have IQs below 105.
Cultural diversity means diversity of intellect. As if it’s somehow beneficial to have a cohort of students with an IQ of 80 who can barely spell cat if you spot them the c and the t.
That’s just it. Mediocrities bring the whole system down. Here’s how it happens, you know the process better than most. A weak student is enrolled. He may be a minority. If a minority can’t make it in your college/department/class, you are scrutinized for bias. Pressure is brought to bear as to why your college/department/class can’t pass/graduate these folk—are you a racist? You begin to change grading and standards to bring these people up to “expected” graduation/pass rates. However, your teaching and testing is available to *all* enrolled students. The good students are no longer challenged to do their best, as… Read more »
Right. Lowering standards to obtain a diverse student body is the tip of the iceberg. The pathology that drives staggered admissions suffuses the entirety of the college experience. If lowering standards in admissions is justified, so is lowering standards in grading and discipline. And this pernicious phenomenon permeates most of AINO’s society, by the by, not just academia.
I don’t disagree with anything you said, but what I worry about is the naive people who might actually believe this crap and skip college for the wrong reasons. Friend of mine said this to me recently.
Far out? Maybe, maybe not.
Perhaps, but given the laxness of admission standards and the tremendous rise in college attendance, I’d attribute most encouragement to the “golden ticket” myth. Half the folk who go to college will never have as good a life as they would have had, had they explored alternative education for employment post HS—and that’s just those who graduate. 40% never do.
Yikes. Got a master plumber as a nephew; I’d forgotten about that whole “arthritis by 45” thing. These guys do get worn out, hard, and he’s a hard man.