One of the reliable bits of news that has emerged from the Iran crisis is that at some point, the Trump team radically changed the terms of the deal. Initially, they were willing to do the deal Iran signed with Obama, with some minor changes. The main change was to remove the time limit on its enforcement. Otherwise, Iran was close to agreeing to a deal with the Trump administration. Then out of the blue the Trump team made new demands and soon after we get the Israel sneak attack.
If you listen to what Trump says, he is all over the map, but the one thing he has been repeating recently is the demand that Iran give up all nuclear technology, even for medical uses, and abandon its missile program. This has been joined by a new demand for unconditional surrender. What he means by that last bit is a bit hazy as countries tend not to surrender when they are holding their own. They never surrender to a country that they are not currently fighting.
That is another consistent theme with the Trump people. They keep slipping up when they talk about the war. Instead of “they”, as in Israel or Israel and Iran, Trump people will say “we”, as in Israel and the United States. Then they will correct themselves or use some weasel words. Ted Cruz made this blunder when talking with Tucker Carlson and has been squirming ever since. This hints at the fact the Israel sneak attack was part of a larger strategy by the White House.
The question no one asks is why the administration would want a war with Iran when it brings so many risks. The closest we get is the chanting of the line, “Iran must never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon.” Even if you accept that moral assertion, Iran was ready to sign over its nukes. The deal they were willing to sign was by all accounts a comprehensive agreement. Even if the negotiations were a ruse, to setup the sneak attack, why would Trump want this?
The most popular answer floating around is they did not want a war. They thought this Peal Harbor style sneak attack would work and by work it would cause the regime to collapse or immediately sue for peace. The Japanese thought the same thing, supposedly, so it makes some sense. Now that Iran is firing missiles at Israel, with no signs of letting up, the White House has a problem. They either go up the escalatory ladder or risk looking weak by taking a deal.
That is possible, but there is another possibility. When it comes to foreign policy, Trump has had one obsession and that is China. When he came down the escalator ten years ago, he was talking about China ripping us off. People forget that this was going to be his main issue until he stumbled upon immigration. When his comments about immigration caught fire, he became a hawk on immigration, but China was always right there at the top of his agenda.
Some say he has an Israel obsession, which is true. He seems to worship Jewish people, a common folk religion in Washington. In his first term, however, he delivered nothing of value to Israel. He was adamant about staying out of new wars in the Middle East and even wanted to close the bases in Syria and Iraq. Starting a war now, less than six months into his do-over term, makes no sense. The country is against war and his base will revolt if he goes to war.
Of course, if he signs off on an attack and Iran crumbles, then he looks like a genius to the average American who is incapable of thinking about what comes next. They will flip back to watching sports while muttering about how Trump wins again. Like it or not, that is how things work in American politics. On the other hand, if he signs off on a strike and it results in more escalation, he risks becoming George Bush. He would be worse than Bush, as people actually trusted Trump.
This raises another angle to this. China is deeply involved with Iran. They have signed a half trillion-dollar investment deal with Iran. They own 80% of the South Pars gas field, part of the biggest gas deposit on earth. They have just completed a railway that links China to Iran. Trains from Xi’an, the capital of the Chinese province of Shaanxi, started arriving at the Aprin Dry Port near Tehran in late May. All industrial and military goods will now go from China to Iran, bypassing the US navy.
The immediate effect of this is it allows Iran to reach the global economy without having to navigate around the American blockade. This allows Iran to get around the sanctions regime that is central to American policy. It would also make Iran a key cross dock for trade between the region and Asia. Of course, the big effect is it makes BRICS a big player in the region, challenging American hegemony. China, Russia, and India can now easily do business with the region.
That may be the reason for the change in approach by the White House. That railroad begins operation and all of a sudden, they change the terms of the deal to something they know Iran can never accept. This is, ironically enough, the same scheme the Biden people used to induce a war in Ukraine. Notice that the West is still demanding Russia surrender as part of their “negotiations.” The best way to get and keep a war is to demand unconditional surrender.
Another thing that supports this theory is that Trump is a transactional guy who thinks about everything in terms of money. He would understand right away the economic aspects of this China – Iran relationship. It is a threat to American control of the energy markets, something that Trump understands well. He looks at BRICS as part of China’s plan to supplant the United States as the global economic hegemon. A war with Iran, therefore, would appeal to him.
There is also the fact that Trump seems to think he can peel countries away from China in order to isolate her. He has flat out said this regarding Russia. He has convinced himself that he will talk Putin into abandoning China in exchange for some empty words from Trump and maybe a White House visit. He probably thinks he can pry Iran lose from China as well, either by force or by threats. It worked with Panama, so he could think the same trick will work with Iran.
In the end, this looming war with Iran looks more like the start of a war with China, rather than just a war for Israel. The Israelis are getting clobbered with missile strikes, so if Trump were acting out of love for Israel, he would not be escalating with Iran, threatening a new war in the region. No doubt Israel is happy to participate for cynical reasons, but the real driver is probably the China issue. It has been his obsession since he came down the escalator and remains so now.
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On this side of the aisle there are many who think these people see the entire chessboard 500 steps ahead. But it seems like Israel has the same blind spots we do, if not worse. Iran fixed their air defense within hours and brought in new military guys to replace the ones that Israel killed, and it’s like Israel and the US have no idea what to do next except ratchet it up. Iran has no reason to surrender after a decapitation strike that didn’t decapitate it. The fact that they are out today claiming that Iran committed a war… Read more »
Won’t China be happy to aid Iran because they source 30% of their oil from Iran?
Doesn’t Japan also source a ton of oil from Iran? They can’t be happy about the current situation.
Japan, Korea, Indonesia, India brokering the sanctioned oil…all the East depends heavily on that oil.
“The fact that they are out today claiming that Iran committed a war crime by doing the same things they did in Gaza hundreds of times tells me that they’re kind of out of ideas here.”
This was absolutely breathtaking! The chutzpah of these people. They are calling it a war crime!
if you don’t want to call it war crime, call it G-d’s miracle: the wing of the hospital that suffered a direct hit was completely evacuated yesterday
Wouldn’t Surprise me if that were true. That happened to wtc 7
So they had some advanced knowledge of this hit? Interesting.
We can’t be incompetent. We work for the Smartest People in the World.
They have more Nobel prizes than anyone!
Someone in the US military didn’t get the memo that you cannot criticize those who rule over you. Now I have no love for the Palestinians, either (don’t trust people who won’t eat bacon), but Israel apparently just happened to ‘find’ this account on twitter/X and doxed the guy. Note that I also don’t trust the US military (yeah, yeah, Trump is getting rid of the trannies – but not the homos, lesbians, mestizos, womyn, etc.), and the guy should have better hidden his identity, but this is still highly educational.
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/pentagon-officer-removed-over-anti-israel-posts-internal-probe-launched/3602771
I support my tribe. My tribe is the indigenous Christians of the Holy Land. They support the Palestinians, so that’s good enough for me.
My ‘tribe’ is White Europeans who created Western Civilization. The Palestinians had/have no part of that. And as a Christian, I do not consider the Middle East a “holy land.” Jesus is holy, not the dirt he happened to trod on while in human form.
That’s fair, but if you had to pick between the two, I’m picking what’s in the best interest of Christians, or at least what they think is in their best interests.
Did anybody really think that trying to solve Europe jewish problem by vomiting it onto the people of Palestine was a good idea?
You’ll need to ask the WASPs who supported the idea for decades.
No idea what you’re talking about but I do not support the Palestinians, to say the very least, nor is there any mandate for such for ‘Christians of the Holy Land’ whatever you imagine that to be.
I can’t wait for the China world order. It can’t be worse than the genocidal, anti-White, jewish world order we have now.
Too bad Chinese demographic situation sucks.
So we change a big-nose market-dominant minority for a squinty-eyed market-dominant nonwhite race? This gweilo has dealt with enough han for 100 lifetimes.
We are obviously not capable to free ourselves from the special people’s subjugation at this time. With China, we would have time to regroup and attempt a comeback.
I wish they’d both go to hell, personally. Jewish dog-wagging is bad enough; I’m in no hurry to experience the joys of living on a CCP-dominated planet as well.
I am counting down the minutes to ‘Iran skewers infants on the tip of bayonets’ or ‘rape’ … 3-2-1.
The propaganda aimed at a dumbed-down, illiterate mass of people is more low brow and idiotic than ever. Who needs ‘sexual images in the ice cubes’ when one can simply assure everyone ‘Brawndo’ works and get back to looting the treasury of your respective country?
The claim that Iran is a few years away from a nuke is similar. Of course, none of us can really judge that claim but they have been making it since the 90s and Tulsi disagrees with the claim today.
“…and Tulsi disagrees with the claim today.”
For what it’s worth, she stated and “the Intelligence community…”
Both sides cannot be correct. The “unconditional surrender” side has a pretty clear and longstanding agenda.
Another 3-2-1 possibility is that Jews have threatened to murder Trump and some or all of his children, which they will then blame on the Iranians. The simple explanation makes more sense than anything else: the man is afraid. The final redpill, which moderate commentators are either too big-brained to understand or too chickenshit to admit, is that this is a fight between Good and Evil. The enemy understands this, but our best and brightest like to pretend otherwise or go in for hairsplitting rather than just state the obvious: it’s either Us or Them. We are Good. They are… Read more »
Or he is in the epstein files
Just threatening him wouldn’t be enough. He could call them out publicly for that, if he cared, and if he was courageous. They’d have to threaten his kids/grandkids.
Yes, “…our best and brightest ” are still trying to figure out why people are dropping dead, young men have heart problems …
Aren’t there nuns in Israel that these nasty Iranians can be raping? Geez, Hannity needs to up his game!
Iran apparently turned down a mutual defense deal with Russia, but nevertheless, neither Russia nor China can allow a Western/Israeli takeover of Iran, and China, as Zman points out, has a huge economic stake in Iran…People like Tulsi probably understand all this, but Trump seems oblivious, and is seriously considering blowing up the whole MAGA movement with his insane warmongering…
China is right to secure cheap energy as a strategic resource.
The US is as well.
Frankly, I couldn’t give a tinker’s damn anymore about who blows up who using whatever weapons in the Levant as long as the oil flow is interrupted.
If Iran OR Israel threatens the free flow of oil, the entire civilized world should intervene with the biggest bombs that will do the job.
Ha, the ‘free flow of oil’, I haven’t heard that rationalization since Rush constantly intoning it during the Desert Storm/Iraq disasters.
Funny how that phrase goes hand-in-hand with people who simultaneously argue each nation should be able to protect and promote its natural resources, and/or piously intone ‘free trade.’ As if access to oil is an inherent, natural ‘right’ guaranteed in the magic constitution.
NOOOOOO! Not my precious marketerinos! Save Our Stocks!
I’m not so sure. Trump did a quiet diplomacy tour and seemed to get agreement from all the principals. Russia offered to take the material for processing, in return, Hegseth dropped Ukraine. China got concessions of some kind – meanwhile, they are arming Iran in order to prolong a war of attrition with Israel. The neighbors would happily weaken or eliminate a powerful competitor for a more tractable regime. Trade with the strong horse is still a better deal for them in the long run than with a troublemaking mafiosi. The Ayatollah’s distilleries in Russia aren’t winning the love of… Read more »
I’m not sure if it’s blackmail, maybe there’s a list somewhere in a vault in Mossad HQ that makes the Epstein list look innocuous. But there is something that makes everyone in DC absolutely petrified of Israel and the lobby. It’s insane to watch from the outside but there’s a giant dark secret there that can only be observed indirectly by its effects. Like dark matter changing the path of light. And it must exist. You’d almost think they have the seven plagues boxed up in a basement in Tel Aviv by the observed force it holds on Trump and… Read more »
If Estonians were as clever, industrious, resourceful, and ethnocentric as Jews, Estonia would be controlling American foreign policy.
Unfortunately, the Estonians picked Kaja Kallas as their girlboss, so obscurity and fecklessness are their dividends.
She’s a mini von der Leyen
in the makin’
Kaja kallas hi-res stock photography and images – Alamy
Straight from the Fox News Mold to EU ascendency lol
She’s not even that pretty, maybe a 5 or 6 and perhaps a 7 20 years ago……. like i’ve said to many people, pretty girls are a dime a dozen.
My theory is that pretty girls are lacking in other areas, so they overcompensate by trying to make themselves look pretty.
PJ O’ Rourke used to say that the sign of a social movement on the way to success is the number of pretty girls it attracts. Sorry, Dems!
It’s about what persuades fat white men with grills. And forties blond women with faded good looks do.
Fox News patented the formula.
Combine the masterful manipulation of the Jews with the blonde women of Estonia and the boomercon would be truly powerless to resist. But then he probably already is.
Boomercon is utterly helpless before her. [heads to backyard to turn burgers on the grill]
You forgot the words crooked, shiftless, sneaky, untrustworthy.
Perhaps they unearthed the Ark of the Covenant beneath a tomb in Megiddo and are threatening to unleash it upon AINO if it doesn’t do Israel’s bidding.
You’d think it’s something of that magnitude
Funny how the JFK files and the Epstein files are handled in same fashion, run the clock out. Perhaps Israel knows the truth on both and uses it for blackmail?
Anything we can imagine, and then at least fifty percent, is possible. Something has DC firmly by the balls
More likely, Israel is using blackmail to keep the JFK and Epstein files secret.
Maybe they cooked up something that kills everyone except Jews. Is that even possible? Or just kills everyone period.
Netanyahu framing his ‘covid jab’ in a glass case was odd. Maybe it was a threat to those in the know. Break glass in case of emergency kind of thing.
In the Bond flick SPECTRE, the whole MacGuffin was about a bioweapon that could be targeted to specific classes, including races, of people. No idea if that is scientifically possible, but it wouldn’t surprise me.
Extortion, essentially. They can collapse the bond market whenever they choose (thank you, central banking). Rounded out by blackmail and murder, for less severe threats.
And then there is always the Samson Option, if things get truly existential…
But surely others could bring Armageddon. If anyone, Russia could blow up the planet and Saudi Arabia could send the global economy into the abyss. My sense is that they have something unbelievable to extort individuals and a combo of sex tapes, financial records and the Mossad assassination teams be it. But it must be very big judging by its effects
I just realized nothing will kick off Jihad in Europe like Israel dicking around in an openly religious war with a major Islamic country.
Look at the reaction to Palestine. Iran is a lot bigger than Palestine is.
Update: Jeebus. Jewish NGOs moved the Replacement soldiers in…and No Kings kicked off on the same day the war started. It’s a signal, the baloon has gone up. (No Kings was actually the largest “protest” in American history, 4.6 million participants.)
Let me be impolite and add a seperate comment. One gal discovered the secret to the Left. Our main complaint is we can’t organize, right? That’s what these “protests”, since the 60s, are. They’re a networking event. They’re a party- a big, stupid, fun party. They don’t have any other purpose. The Daily Cause is just an excuse to throw a party. It’s a third space where people can go meet other people without having to spend money. The purpose is for activists to recruit other activists. That’s it. The professionals even have metrics and goals: the goal is recruiting… Read more »
Israel-Iran blow-up provides good cover for Trump to get those deportations done. “Never let a crisis go to waste”, as a former member of the IDF once remarked.
Except, being Trump, he’ll screw that up too. He’s already bailing on farm “workers”. All the good will he built up in the way he handled the LA riots has already dissipated.
If Trump wants to isolate China or worse, then why was he salivating over Chinese students at American schools? Why does he allow Chinese ownership of American property when this is clearly a national security issue? Why does he boast about his relationship with Xi?
He cannot think systematically or strategically. Nah, scrap that last sentence. He just cannot think, period. And ironically, that’s part of his appeal to the MAGA crowd, which in large part can’t think either. Memes, slogans, trash talk — that’s the order of the day.
For far too long, and by far too many, his erraticism was mistaken for 5d chess. That really needs to die. I don’t think it quite has.
I gave up the 12d chess theory way back in the first term. Trump’s only major virtue, as far as I am concerned, is: “Probably doesn’t hate America”, unlike the other choice.
Whether he reverses it or not, he at least turned off the GR spigot. That alone makes him superior to everyone else on the ballot and worth my vote. No regrets about that.
More specifically, he probably doesn’t hate white people. And in this day and age, that’s no small thing.
Yep. Have a look – if you can stomach it – at the Q sites and Conservative Treehouse. TDS in full swing: Trump Delusion Syndrome
But does it really matter? Is Trump really in charge? We’ve been saying for quite some time that it’s the Deep State/managerial state/Power Structure that actually runs things. It’s hard for me to believe that suddenly the keys to the Ferrari were handed over to that crazed battleaxe, Donald Trump.
We can but speculate. I do think certain others are able and willing to rein him in when he goes off at the deep end.
I disagree with both of you.
What he absolutely cannot do, what we were conditioned not to do at all costs, is he cannot think racially.
Imagine the trash talk – now imagine it from a fiercely White position.
And no, I don’t mean cheap swearing or insult, but like from someone who isn’t White. Jewish, black, latino, ummah, asian, thirdworld, take your pick.
Regarding the potential Fordow nuke complex strike, the rumors from DC are that it’s going to happen like Luke blowing up the Death Star – i.e. dropping a bomb down a vent shaft.After being owned by Tucker, Ted Cruz is also posting dumb Star Wars memes.It is difficult to imagine a less serious country than AINO.
Unless there is something unknown about our “bunker buster” bomb or Iran has not built their facilities to such avoidance, I can’t imagine success, albeit we will claim such in any event.
Maybe we can parachute John Boyega in there to f*ck up their country. After all, he hasn’t gotten much work since he went full BLM chimp-out in 2020. He can bring his “Force Awakens” character into reality, “life imitates art” and all that…
A little late today. I was wondering if you were off for Juneteenth. 🙂
I forgot all about it! That explains the KFC ads all over YouTube this week.
I’m glad the double whammy of Riot and Bagel Wars has tamped down “celebration” of Sodomy Month and Summer Kwanzaa, at least.
You take your solace where you can find it.
Incidentally, it’s dashedly demoralizing to be a June baby these days.
You’ll be able to take your solstice anywhere on Earth tomorrow but only at a certain time: Friday, June 20, 2025, 10:42 p.m. EDT. (Lousy pun, but perhaps a chuckle from any astronomers in the audience?)
That’s a groaner alright, Ben. Even by my rotten standards of punning.
June is Groomer Awareness Month
Heh.
**Another black mark in Zman’s zapiska**
So did we. Husband just noted all the banks are closed. Didn’t realize the implications of juneteemph becoming a full fed holiday. What a joke this country is.
Especially so close after Memorial Day and before the 4th of july. End of July would have been a better time 🤣
April first would seem to be most fitting.
Every day is nuggra-worship day in AINO, so I really don’t know why we need to set aside special days to belabor the obvious.
June 19th added a second pointless special day. Because MLK Jr just wasn’t enough.
You can’t order out on an important holiday like this. I’m making my own fried chicken and waddymelon with orange soda.
No purple draaaaaaaaaaank? The stupid savagery of these people putting codeine into Sprite is amusing if not depressing.
Grape soda, you culturally insensitive mayo monkey!
I settled on BBQ ribs, bacon-roasted cabbage, and a drum of cherry Kool Aid…extra sugar, of course.
stock market is closed for Juneteenth! Such bravery, such respect
What does the market matter anymore? It’s all computer algorithms anyway.
Ha! I laughed so hard I started choking! Z…fabulous columns-keepers for today and yesterday. Bless your black button gaiters, Sir!
Shit…that’s why endless adverts of fat, ugly, dusky women dancing, boobs flopping, ham sized legs jiggling, advertising Wegovy.
Joomteemf…
Coonteenth…
Good to see the humor on the Z Man is still good lol
What are y’all doing to celebrate Juneteenth?
watching “Mandingo” and “Song of The South”
Slaughter with Jim Brown is my favorite blaxploitation flick.
The documentary, “Undercover Brother”.
https://youtube.com/shorts/EFVx866sejA?si=zDOsVlZFu5vmJvE1
Okay, this will make up for it (hint, Denise Richards!!)
https://youtube.com/shorts/Q9Fg1cRYxJQ?si=2R_90sIDUCSUpGzm
We need White She Devil today.
Found it! The epic full scene
https://youtu.be/T-UcchGOz8I?si=A_cY-Zogk07A6co4
I’ll pull out my copy of D.W. Griffith’s 1915 epic The Birth of a Nation.
To Sir With Love! Absolute race reversal: Rowdy, unteachable white kids and a strong, dignified black teacher!
Good Question. Maybe make another donation to Shiloh Hendrix. If it were possible, maybe put up a large plastic Sambo figurine scene of the day they wuz sittin’ round eatin’ watermelon when duh white guys came ridin’ in across multiple staytss and said they wuz done winnin us arr freedumz.
It’s National Lawn Jockey Day in post-America.
I changed my oil and filter. I was thinking about fried chicken but I would have to drive past the train tracks.
I’m flying a Confederate battle flag in my yard. And I am not joking.
I hope the local goons (police) don’t descend upon your plantation.
I live out in rural Pennsyltucky homey. The local cops are my people, not the enemy’s.
That’s good. I traveled through you neck of the woods recently. Drove from Pittsburgh to Harrisburg. Unusually chilly weather up that way. Rather enjoyed it.
I chose to celebrate by buck breaking Cornelius Rye again. Hearing him cry out to Kunta, Kizzy and Chicken George and wail fo’ his freedom lightens my cruel slabing heart.
Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay
My, oh my, what a wonderful day
Plenty of sunshine headin’ my way
Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay
Mister Bluebird’s on my shoulder
It’s the truth, it’s actual
Ev’rything is satisfactual
Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay
Wonderful feeling, wonderful day, yes sir!
Straight from Langley to our living rooms.
Once self-righteous white females got a load of ‘Roots’ it was all over for the Ebil Ebil White Man. After ‘Roots’, it was RIGHTEOUS to disenfranchise and dispossess white men and boys.
After all, it’s rightfully the TURN of wimmin and blacks and homos and etc. now.
Oh yes, the brutal and oppressive Patriarchy under which we all live:
UK Government 2025 lol
June-teenffff! I was raised in the South, was around blacks all my life, played sports with them, was friends with a ton of them and not once did I ever hear about June-teenfffffff.
Now it’s a federal holiday to go along with the one celebrating the Marxist plagiarist, faux Christian (didn’t believe in many key Christian doctrines) and sexual deviant. Oh. Joy.
We ain’t seen nuthin’ yet. I expect we’ll live to see the day when the Assumption of St. Floyd and the birth of President BO are also national holidays.
I guess the 19th century American injuns were right about bargaining with forked tongues. No more negotiations anywhere with Trump now, who can trust him?
A bullshitter who got lucky. I can’t remember which wise sage said that but it still holds true. Anyways, the entangling alliances with Iran, Russia and China scream for caution going forward because we all know where that leads.
I continue to wonder if he’d ever have been president if the Ds had stuck to nominating men
They overreached, and too soon, for the Glorious Gynarchy. Hillie got greedy and wanted it all, if she’d waited they’d already be in the WH.
Trump is blessed with horrible enemies.
The Dems to wo/man are on X bemoaning the the fact that the Supreme Court affirmed the legalities of laws that restrict the medical establishment’s ability to castrate kids. Their opponent is on the ropes due to his own incompetence and their plan is to try and out-do his self-destruction.
“He would be worse than Bush, as people actually trusted Trump.” Right now I wonder whether anyone abroad trusts him. The Chinese don’t, the Russians don’t, and now the Iranians don’t. He talks and “negotiates” (if that’s the right word) in bad faith, and contradicts himself and flip-flops constantly. His word means nothing. They say a gentleman’s word is his bond and by this criterion Trump is no gentleman. But I’m increasingly convinced he’s not even a normal man. Rather a blithering idiot who should be put in a straitjacket and shipped off to the funny farm. As for what… Read more »
Kayfabe applied to geopolitics and possible nuclear war.
God help us all.
They think it’s all just showbiz. Unfortunately the nukes are (probably?) not props
Asmongold: “He didn’t like the deal, so he blew up the table.”
In ye olde Bible days, one of the people God saved was a king of Judah. He gave him 12 more years of life. It was all very deliberate and showy, with even a miracle involved. What the king did with those years was a)show one of the neighboring rivals the storehouses of weapons and b)sire a son who took the throne under his blessing (presumably over older, more competent sons) who was a complete disaster for the kingdom. God doesn’t always save people for immediately positive results.
Trump said 3 or 4 things the past week that are just totally disturbing even taking into the fact that Trump says stuff. This doesn’t seem like the usual Trump A/B thing (which we literally just saw with immigration raids). Him blowing off what his DNI said with “I don’t care what she says” was just insane. So now he takes the word of Mark Levin over his own DNI? A guy who hated him until 5 minutes ago? A guy who said the same BS about Iraq, which Trump heavily criticized in 2015? It seems like all of his… Read more »
“Him blowing off what his DNI said with “I don’t care what she says” was just insane. So now he takes the word of Mark Levin over his own DNI?”
He has his orders from on high is the only inference I can draw. The USA is not a sovereign state anymore. The Kosher Nostra runs everything, but using a Goy glove.
I say we roll with Occam’s razor and simply acknowledge that, just as Biden succumbed to dementia, Trump has gone crazy. And I mean that quite literally. He really has no idea what he said 30 minutes ago, let alone three weeks ago. This would account for his incoherence and the bizarre things he says.
It’s either that or he really does take the view of the last person he talked to. There must be a faction desperately trying to keep him off the phone with Bibi.
Tulsi contradicted Bibi, the b*tch. That’s unacceptable and breaks all the foreign policy rules.
There’s this weird sense of deja vu right now. We have an aged President heading into mental deterioration who is probably going to be replaced by his VP at some stage. This is Trump, not Biden. And we even have impeachment on the table once more – this time from enraged MAGA folk who quite rightly think that he has betrayed them. Bizarre times!
Russia is currently building a rail corridor from St. Petersburg through Iran and terminating at a coastal port on the Arabian Sea. This benefits Russia by bypassing both the Baltic Sea and Black Sea transport bottlenecks. As such, Iran is now becoming an intercontinental crossroads. Neither Russia nor China is going to allow Iran to be defeated by the West. Trump will likely authorize a single strike, fail badly, as did Jimmy Carter in his Iranian misadventure, and then declare victory while slinking away. How far we have fallen.
Railroads are not a real substitute. Shipping is so cheap nobody can even believe it, but consider that peaches grown in Brazil, packaged in Thailand and shipped back to the US, is cheaper than domestic produce. The most expensive part of that voyage is the truck that takes the peaches from the farm in Brazil to the port.
Sorry, but you’re ignoring the reality of geopolitics. The West uses its domination of shipping corridors to enforce its economic hegemony and extract rent from all shipping activity; plus also uses that control to enforce its coercion and threats in other areas. Russian shipping, when restricted solely to the Baltic and Black Sea bottlenecks, is at the mercy of this piracy. The rail line to the Arabian Sea port undermines that hegemony and neuters the West’s transport dominance.
I’m not aware that the West taxes Russian shipping, and a railroad doesn’t undermine the hegemony if the cost is x50 per kilo.
Yes, you can circumvent a naval blockade, but it’s not a viable economic solution long term.
Make what you just typed, make sense, because the only way it does is someone is subsidizing it. Why would they do that?
My example was made up and for illustration only, but that’s the order of magnitude we’re dealing with, and the only way it’s subsidized is that bunker fuel isn’t taxed.
A big reason is that the infrastructure is completely free of charge and you can load as much tonnage onto the sea as naval engineering allows, and travel any distance without putting wear on it at all.
Also it’s one area where capitalism actually works as intended: the competition is savage and the profit margins razor thin.
But for an actual example, you have Chinese garlic out-competing Californian produce, and garlic is both cheap and bulky.
I don’t buy it, but thanks for the response.
Good on you, I never buy Chinese garlic myself. It has no real kick and the aroma has more sulphur than flower.
But people buy it anyway because all they care about is price and since they usually burn off the higher notes with too hot oil, they can’t taste the difference anyway.
If China and Russia let Iran go under, then they don’t deserve to survive. They still don’t seem to realise that the West wants them dead, dead, dead.
The regime is what’s going away, not the nation. Maybe the principals are tired of Iran’s antics too- the Twelver’s focus on war-war and proxies while they asset-strip the nation gives Russia and China huge discounts, because the mullahs don’t have money for much else other than maintaining their police state and trying to extend it on the coast.
However, big discounts now also means the strong possibility of default in the future. The Ayatollah is in the same position as Zelenskyy.
I fear that someone in Israel is reading what zman is writing about Trump’s base, nodding in agreement and then proceeds to order painting f-35s with the national insignia of Iran and bombing an American ship. Or a concert is blown up and an Iranian driver’s license found nearby. With the stakes this high, is there any chance that the usual suspects will desist from dirty tricks?
The Demoncraps and neocons pushed Russia into BRICS when things were going ok. Why? To bring down oppressive, patriarchal Heritage America so their shiny new Imp-proved Amerika could rise from the ashes. Build Back Better, the Future is Female, no these people ain’t kidding. Yes, these people ARE that insulated and entitled. The U.S., Canada, Britain, Australia, Western Europe . . . ruled by infants and women. UK Government 2025 These people created the rising Eastern Hegemon of China, Russia, India, and Iran and forced them to bank-out. This constitutes almost the entirety of the Eastern World. It is self-destruction… Read more »
Now you are starting to think at the right level of analysis: empire and hegemony for the NATO-level oligarchs. This is why France changed her tune regarding Israel and has joined in the defense alongside Britain. Western powers were content to let China be the empire’s factory until the Chinese economic “miracle” meant another potential rival. The breakup and subjugation of Russia is sold with the same logic for them, alongside claiming trillions in Russia’s resource like the nation was some African backwater. Iran has become an important logistics hub and supplies China 20% of her oil energy. You need… Read more »
And, I don’t think China wants to risk a nuclear exchange with anyone either.
If the use of tactical (limited range) nukes gets normalized on the testing grounds of Iran, then, like drones or hypersonics, it changes all the rules.
Now, Joe MAGA is giving Tucker a lot of grief, but I think he’s the Emirates’ cutout sending a message to Israel: keep it conventional. Trump and Tucker are playing a bad-cop, good-cop Vince McMahon routine.
If Trump thinks any problems beyond the U.S. borders is more important that problems within U.S. borders then he is unsound in his thinking.
One Caveat: The biggest problem for the U.S. beyond its borders is all the meddling and war-mongering it does.
Intentionally or unintentionally, the external meddling served to create populations of refugees that became internal problems for the US due to the idiotic soft and open borders policies that have been official policy for decades.
War with China is even dumber than war with Iran. Unless the US can totally defeat China in a very short war of maybe a couple of months, the US will be handed the worst defeat in our history and may very well end in our navy sunk and our shipyards being destroyed. The US attacking China or fighting China on the side of Taiwan is as stupid as Hitler declaring war on the US. Our so-called allies aren’t going to do anything. Unlike the US, Korea and Japan are in easy striking distance of China. They are not going… Read more »
That and what’s the upside? Say their wet dream comes true and the Russian and Chinese governments collapse and the nations are broken up into mini-states governed by GAE aligned fake-o-democracies: how are the lives for Americans in America improved by that situation? We would have made the lives worse for a great number of foreign people while probably making our lives worse as well.
Another thing people forget: China was basically Japan’s “Russian front” during WW2, keeping over 1 million troops tied down who could have prevented our Pacific theater victories. China today is far more powerful than the divided and backward China of the 1930s and 1940s – more powerful, even, than the mighty Soviet Union of those days.
But our gaggle of gaggots and trannulae are going to take them down?
That’s why the US and China are having a proxy faceoff in Iran, like with Russia in Syria. It’s a Cold War conflict, far away from either’s shores.
Not really. China wants unification with Taiwan and that is the hot spot where China-US relations could go sour. Iran is unlikely to defeat the US Navy. China is likely to defeat the US Navy and possibly bomb it all the way back to US docks. We have a slight technology edge, but they can out produce us more than 10 to 1. We could not build a carrier in a 5 year period, especially if the shipping lanes are not open from other Asian economies. So the solution is we’re gonna have Japan and South Korea build them for… Read more »
your thesis begs the question: why not go straight at china? ban all their goods here, and kick out all chinese nationals (including students). refuse to let china use SWIFT, etc. even on tariffs TACO Don hit the chicken switch immediately. and i think that is TD in a nutshell; he wants to do certain things, talks about them, but lacks the nerve to actually follow through.
AINO has too many critical supply chains that start in China. They don’t want to provoke an immediate shutdown of those.
Two examples that come to mind are pharmaceuticals and rare earth metals. Two subcategories impacted by the second category are magnets and integrated circuits.
The Chinese equivalent of SWIFT, CIPS, is already outperforming the former in terms of daily financial transactions. Banning China from SWIFT will just hasten its decline.
Exactly, particularly the pharmaceuticals (and literally nothing substantive changed after Covid). China also tends to be the sole source of more complex components, so you get unironic requests for material to be used in weapons scheduled to export to Ukraine, by way of example. This isn’t solely or sometimes even mainly a question of inflation–it often boils down to actual availability.
The other hole in his thesis though is that the Iran War is wildly unpopular and they’re trying to pump Israel as the casus belli, but after a year of state sponsored genocide Americans don’t like Israel much more than they do Iran. If the thesis is true it seems like it would be easier to sell Americans on the idea of thwarting Chinese, or even Russian influence, than defending Bibi’s bad decision making.
good point
Yep. And more and more people are noticing just how much power these slimy Zionists have in the US.
What are all of you doing to celebrate Juneteenth?
I ate some watermelon after lunch. This afternoon I plan to drive around in my car blasting music with heavy base and block intersections while waiting for the light to change.
Maybe later I will steal some nail polish at Walgreens for my baby momma.
Lately I’ve been streaming Columbo reruns. About all the rich white folks in Beverly Hills murdering each other. And not having the sense to lawyer up, preferring endless incriminating conversations with the police.
I agree that China is likely the ultimate target of a war with Iran, but don’t forget Russia. An Iranian collapse would enable globalist activity in the various central Asian republics around Russia. The Japanese strike on Pearl Harbor, and also on the Phillipines and British colonies such as Hong Kong and Singapore, was part of a complex calculation. The Japanese had achieved victory over Russia in the 1905 war despite having occupied very little of Russia, and that in far-away Siberia. Russia simply had to concede that certain areas (e.g., Korea) could be occupied by Japan. Japan thought that… Read more »
Could we be seeing the early formation of WWIII? The Anglosphere and Western/Central Europe as the Allies and BRICS as the Axis? I certainly hope not, but the Blackberry Fruitcake Empire is extremely jealous of its global hegemony and is ruled by deranged fools. I’m afraid anything is possible just so long as it’s bad.
I continue to believe, and events of the past week reinforce it, that WW3 began when Russian troops entered Ukraine. Kind of like how WW2 began when Japan invaded Manchuria in 1936, but nobody was calling it WW2 yet. They weren’t calling it WW2 yet when Germany invaded Poland either.
The difference between the Great War in Two Parts and now are there are no troops in the West able to be called up. There’s also no serious willingness to pay for it. Large conventional armies require a lot of domestic cooperation. I’m sorry to say that being a soldier doesn’t sound all that much different from being in prison, except they aren’t shooting at you in the later case. If families don’t insist that young men do their duty, and those young men don’t see the need for it, don’t bother. Can it be WWIII? Sure. But it won’t… Read more »
It would be largely an air-and-naval war that could easily go nuclear. It would also prove astronomically expensive and inconclusive. The best-case scenario would be that there be no bombing of population centers, but there’s sure no guarantee of that.
One could argue that WWIII started in the Syrian Civil War – analogous to the Spanish Civil War of the 1930s, with Germans and Russians and their hardware facing off on opposite sides.
I do not see how the US can bomb Fordow and not commit US troops. If he bombs it and it releases radiation, we will have to clean it up. We will have to send in troops to defend the clean up teams. What happens if the regime falls and the Iranians celebrate their diversity Syria style? Does the enriched radiation hit the black market and wind up in dirty bombs in the US or Europe? As you said on ramzpaul, China may decide to bleed the US and NATO by supplying Iran with weapons. They lost Syria which was… Read more »
There’s no way we can put troops on the ground in Iran. We don’t have sufficient forces, and the pubic won’t stomach it. They won’t enlist, either. On the other hand history has proven conclusively that air power alone cannot defeat an enemy without infantry and armor on the ground as well. The Blitz on London, the 8th Air Force, Operation Rolling Thunder, Operation desert Fox… the examples are endless. So Trump has boxed himself in. If he bombs Iran, he commits an act of war and the Iranians can and will retaliate any way they see fit. But bombing… Read more »
If regime change is the goal, and I believe it is, then most likely somebody has to go in on the ground, sooner or later. Post Iraq, the GAE way of war has repeatedly involved proxy armies. Where are all those guys who spent the last 15 years fighting in Syria?
I think they are planning a HALO drop, with Vicky Nudelman and Alexander the Great Vindeman … but to DOGE and save money, they are going to use ONE parachute, like during Poppy Bush’s last drop as a 90 year old.
No chute, just an HA drop.
To literally flatten the Iranian leadership
They’re all in Europe stabbing people and raping white girls.
Remember, jihad means a ticket straight to paradise!
Good news is, you don’t have to die first.
(Actually, that’s true. The Islamic Heaven referred to R&R camps for fighters – if you fought, you could get all the wine and little boys and girls you wanted. “Paradise” is a name for resorts.)
Indeed. If fear of Iranian sleeper cells in AINO is part of the oblique casus belli, then what would be more likely to activate them than BFE airstrikes on Iran?
Exactly. It’s psychological projection and self-fulfilling prophecy. Iran hasn’t attacked us, but if we commit unprovoked acts of war against them because they might attack us, then they do attack us in retaliation, we were right. See?
This theory of pre-emptive strike is just flat out immoral. There is a possibility at some point in the future, in which our adversary may attack us. Therefore, we are justified to strike them first. It doesn’t take a philosophy major to realize the problems with this. It only makes sense when we see the nuke being fueled up on the launch pad, and we have a guy on the launcher telling us yep, they just put in the coordinates for a US city. Obviously this is not what’s occurring, so the reasoning is faulty and immoral. But it doesn’t… Read more »
Years ago, Micheal Savage was touting suitcase nukes by Iran in various cities in America.
Steamtrunk size, actually, and ones hidden in onboard cargo containers. Park it in the harbor, and Port Authority go bye-bye.
That’s why the Baltimore Bridge had people chunking their boxers.
Savage is a Jew, like Levin, Dr, Laura, etc. etc. He was giving you the standard Zionist propaganda. “Conservative” talk radio is literally nothing but Zionist shills.
If we’re supposed to fear Iranian suitcase nukes so much, why not Russian suitcase nukes? North Korean suitcase nukes? Pakistani suitcase nukes? Indian suitcase nukes?
Funny how we’re supposed to worry about a nation that has no ICBMs, no SLBMs, no long range bombers, no air defenses, and a 1970s air force. Iran cannot hit us… but can hit Israel.
Back in the 1980s when we were playing fuck-fuck in Mid East, a local joke in DC was something like “Iran retaliated by cutting off taxi service to National Airport.”
China has been sending cargo planes to Iran since the sneak attack. My guess is they are supplying Iran with components to keep building missiles as part of a war of attrition. Israel has admitted that it is low on AD already. The US is also low on AD. Another couple of weeks and things get critical. The thing is, an attack on Iran will not change this problem, unless that attack collapses the regime. That is the dilemma Trump is facing at the moment. His high risk scheme has created a scenario in which the risks are now higher.… Read more »
Ted Postol has given multiple interviews where he describes simple bunker construction features that can largely redirect that blast impact of bunker busters.
On top of that, one has to think an incoming bunker buster bomb could be deflected, damaged, or even destroyed by local point air defense cannons or missiles.
The above is a good illustration as to why we can’t win squat in any war. China sends critical components to build Iranian missiles which the Iranians use within weeks to replenish weaponry. Meanwhile, in the US, Raytheon’s President talks of 18 months to restart an assembly line for US weaponry sent to Ukraine.
Both China and Russia are doing what we used to call dollar diplomacy. Except they do not just bribe the leaders. They also invest in the infrastructure. You see it is South America where China built a port in Peru. That is far more valuable to the local leaders than bling from Washington.
We have to clean it up? Bullshit!
Yeah, we should, we broke it we should have to fix it. It’s past time for this country to stop being the Scut Farkas of the world and learn to live with everyone. While we’re at it withdraw from our hegemony.
China is already supplying weapons to Iran. Dang, sorry I don’t have the specifics.
However, I agree with one pundit that the strategy is “Drop it and bounce. We’ll take take of our demand – Fordow, no nukes (because we say so, that’s why) – and let Israel do the rest.”
Trump strong horses keeping proliferation within bounds, the Israel lobby ties itself up in looking as bad as possible. That is putting a lethal dent in their credibility and worship on the Right, the Left, and the Faithful.
You missed out the fact that Trump wouldn’t have returned to power without powerful Zionist backing and that it is very likely that he and most of political allies are being blackmailed by Israel (Epstein Island, Mr Lindsey?). Gabbard told him that the Iranians weren’t building nukes and he seemed to accept that for a moment. Then he talks to Netanyahu and jaw, jaw becomes war, war. Yes, Trump might have the brain cells left to make this all about stopping China, but the simplest explanation is that US foreign policy is decided in Tel Aviv.
So at the dog park I go to there are some older folks who I suspect are Evangelical Christians. (They seem to talk about bible study and old testament things quite a bit) Listening to them go on, in their minds Iran was already totally destroyed by the Israeli strikes and they’re cackling like braying morons about it.
A lot of people know things that aren’t true.
I don’t know why people keep trying to save them.
Nothing will weaken the Masters’ grip like their own optics – let them commit suicide by their own hand.
Our infected unfortunates will go with them – this is TomA’s evolutionary cull working in real time.
Very important and inciteful post about China and Trump’s motivations. This goes along with what some of the military analysts have said about the conflict. They have not noticed the China link but they are starting to say the tactics are going to be the Syria and Libya model. The complete destruction of the Iranian society. If Iran is turned into a Mad Max landscape with various warlords running things then they will be no threat. There are no U.S. force structures that would allow boots on the ground for the foreseeable future. If Iran’s economy is destroyed the railway… Read more »
Iran’s economy is being asset-stripped anyways by the regime. If that railway was run by a more tractable regime…I can see how Russia, China, and Turkey would sign off. And, we’re setting up a ‘Kurdistan’ (Balochistan) to mess with the Pakistanis, to India’s delight. Thus the visit with Modi. MBS, investing beyond oil, would love to have a piece of Gaza Riviera. The original Eilat-Ashkelon pipeline to Iran is still there, as well, from Iran’s original deal with Israel, next to the offshore fields. Sisi smacked Obama’s Muslim Brotherhood, Turkey has its piece of Syria, Houthis are to Yemen what… Read more »
So far the view of Trump as a facilitator of little stabilization in the Empire is losing arguments: the erratic trade disputes, immigration flip-flops, Ukraine peace fiasco and now Iran. This presidency might as well pose him as an undertaker of global hegemony, through the destruction of credibility and flailing around as if to waste energy on purpose. For all the pivoting towards Indo-Pacific, the distractions keep piling up along the way. Or perhaps the pivot has already become unrealistic in its ambitions and the signs like accepting further knowledge transfers (expanding Chinese student visas) foretell the future of resigned… Read more »
When a Clown moves into a Palace, the Clown doesn’t become a Prince, the Palace becomes a Circus.
“a railway that links China to Iran”
*gasp*
Zman, you’ve scored another first. I’ve never heard mention of this before, and it must’ve taken quite a bit of time and investment.
I surely would like to know what countries this railroad runs through. This is Mackinder theory come live.
And South Pars! That might constitute a direct attack on Chinese interests. Meanwhile, Federal land in the Western states are being offered up for sale to China through the back door. Are we becoming Canada’s 11th province?
In been in the works for years, how can you not know?
I want to add that Iran has done things that I don’t understand, that don’t make sense, outside of being a Russian and/or Chinese puppet. Iran has engaged in pointless, and costly expeditionary actions that have mostly ended in defeat: Lebanon, where Hezbollah got destroyed by Israel’s pager bomb and aerial bombs. Syria, where the IRGC got routed by ISIS jihadis. Hamas where Iran trained the jihadis to attack Israel, for ??? To what benefit did Iran get by Oct 7, which was an operation conceived and trained in Iran (which is why the Israelis did not understand what was… Read more »
“If you listen to what Trump says, he is all over the map, …” Perhaps the most pathetic outcome of this whole fiasco. Trump’s “all over the map” because he’s attempting to take credit for anything in this fiasco that can be perceived as a victory or a positive outcome. Toss enough BS at the wall and something will stick (come true). However, not everyone is that gullible, Trump’s statements are more correctly perceived as confusion, incompetence, and lack of control. Trump has bet his entire presidency/legacy on this venture, whether he knows this or not. If he wins—through shear… Read more »
One theory that wasn’t mentioned is that Israel was holding their Epstein blackmail information on Trump until the last minute. They probably have dirt on a lot of congresspeople and simultaneously contacted all of them, sort of like that pager attack.
That’s a compelling conjecture, NateG. Recently others had said that if the putative Epstein Files really had any dirt on Trump that it would have been used in the past few years. Since no such Kompromat dropped, goes the argument, such Kompromat doesn’t exist. But not so fast! To my mind at least, substantially all if not all of the assaults against Trump dating back to “Rusiagate” or whatever it was before he’d even been elected (in 2016) were either total forgeries (e.g. the “Pee Dossier”) or were very (pardon the pun) trumped up charges like the conviction about putting the wrong wording… Read more »
Why has Trump not simply hit Iran’s various sites? Why the delay? My guess is he is trying to make a deal with Russia. Swap Ukraine for Iran. He wants to get out of Ukraine, which is a no win, and get some kind of a win for himself to bank against conviction in his inevitable impeachment by Speaker Jeffries. This means he needs some Neo Cons and suchlike for his side. Can it work? I don’t know. How fragile or not Iran’s leadership is, remains unknown. Bombing campaigns unseated Khadaffi, and Milosevic. Assad was unassailable as long as Russian… Read more »
The correct response to all the impeachment threats is to throw half a dozen of them into a federal prison on corruption charges, RICO suites all round Family and friends and pets.
$500 would buy a crippling but not fatal shivving.
There are a hell of a lot things that could be done, starting with lisping linda.
“He seems to worship Jewish people, a common folk religion in Washington.” Two comments: 1. Maybe people in these corners of the internet wouldn’t be so hostile to Jews if we didn’t have to hear about them and they weren’t in our face all the time. Just shut up and keep your head down like other ethnic groups and maybe you won’t attract so much hate. But that’s not their way. 2. I just had one of those “aha!” moments. I’ve been blaming Republican cucks for being Uncle Toms for their Jewish masters, which they are. It just hit me… Read more »
I’m not sure he worships them (like Cruise and Huckleberry), but he does apparently fear to cross them.
Probably with good reason.
Like it or not, Jews are central to world history. It’s in the Bible. If you look at things from a spiritual and Biblical perspective, it all makes sense.
Another reason for my gripe with Kevin MacDonald’s “evolutionary selection” theory about Jews – and why evolution itself is pure B.S. – overnight Jews went from downtrodden shtetl mice being railroaded to death camps to Levantine super-warriors soundly beating all comers while massively outnumbered.
The theory only makes sense in our Jewish media soaked world. They think they are the center of world history and the universe and can spread the theory far and wide. As it stands the OT is the history of the Israelites, with the tribe of Judah one of 12 (or 13 depending on who is counting). The word “Jew” (Judahite) does not appear until very late in the OT timeline. NT Judahites clearly thought of themselves as Israelites/Sons of Abraham well before their tribal association. (Ben Shapiro would be proud). Evolution even if it were true simply doesn’t work… Read more »
Jews can’t exist without antisemitism, so they can never stop poking.
“when they are holding their own” I don’t see that, and I’ve been looking for it. I see Iran’s air defense, which is supposedly the best the Russians had to offer, being ineffective against the F-35A. I see, including people that I would consider “on my side” here, a mistaken extrapolation that the seriously outdated equipment supplied to Ukraine being destroyed by the Russians is a sign of American military equipment being past its due date. Destroying outdated F-16s with stripped down 40 year old avionics never impressed me. We were never going to give the Ukrainians the good stuff.… Read more »
The Patriot system has been exposed as a lemon, I don’t think that’s debatable
The Patriot Missile system has shot down more SU-34s than the S-400 has shot down F-35s.
Because F35 won’t go anywhere near an S400.
If those crappy planes were any good, the US would have imposed a no fly zone over Ukraine.
Are you saying that Iran didn’t place S-400s over their capital city or their nuclear research facilities? That’s an odd claim.
What attracts people to the “Alt-Right” world, is, or should be, realism. Race realism, sexes realism, economic realism. Accepting the world as it is and not how you want it to be. Trying to rationalize a position based on wishful thinking that the MIC has inferior equipment is not realism. Like I said, given enough evidence to the contrary, my opinion can change but I have yet to see that evidence.
I see no evidence that Iran used s-400’s
care to cite your sources?
Sure. Yes the ghost of keeev has been operating patriot batteries and blowing Russian aircraft out of the sky .
I think you’re buying into the propaganda a bit Friendo. We are all susceptible to confirmation bias, but you can be sure you’re not getting accurate reports from either side. Such is war. I think “our type” should be more level-headed. You are correct in that sometimes our high-tech equipment is assumed to not work because we want to dump on the MIC. Sometimes it does work wonderfully, but as a lifetime student of war I can tell you a lesson learned over and over again is war is a contest of will and an over-reliance on high tech usually… Read more »
I don’t know the specifics, but (presumably) low-tech outdated (even at the time) Soviet stuff was sufficient to down one of our vaunted Stealth fighters during the civil war in Bosnia ~ 1995. The recovered jet was quite a prize for Russia. This was quite a big deal at the time, apparently to the extent that US/NATO “accidentally” bombed the Chinese embassy in [city?] because they suspected the goods might have been there. As I say, I don’t know the details. Lucky shot, maybe.
Upvote to McLeod, for what little that’s worth. I thought someone here mentioned the October 2024 feint or test run by Israeli jets, which activated Iran’s full air defense for livemapping. That, combined with US satellites and Israel’s targeting of military and air assets on the ground seems to be what is doing the job, not the Air Force’s latest boondoggle.
I am sometimes shocked by your naivete about Islam. The nice Muslims you know are not representative, nor do they drive the actions of Islamic countries. Because the mullahs follow strict Islam (which is much more a political system than a religion), so long as the mullahs are in charge Iran will never hold to any deal. Taqiyya is not just hiding one’s religion when threatened, it is also deceiving the infidels to gain an advantage, and this behavior is =mandated= by the Noble Quran. “War is deceit.” Further, Islam is =by definition= at war with all the lands of… Read more »
“Also, has everyone forgotten that last October, Iran lobbed ~500 missiles into Israel?”
Liar. That was a retaliatory strike for Israel’s previous attack. Are you gonna start whining about the hospital next?
Sometimes the enemy of my enemy is just another enemy. I couldn’t care less about Muslims and I don’t want a nice Muslim for a neighbor and I don’t care about Israel or Jews. Both of them are just another group of foreigners wrecking our countries.
Take your Israeli first politics and shove em where the sun don’t shine.
“Sometimes the enemy of my enemy is just another enemy.” Exactly. This binary thinking about Islam is silly. I don’t have to care either way.
Be an Arab, be a Jew
Be a boxing Kangaroo
Beat yourself all black and blue
I don’t care
— Alice Cooper, “Model Citizen” (1980)
I have no particular love for Israel.
I have far less love for the cancer that is Islam.
Anything that fights Islam helps hold off the day when it conquers the west (it won’t stop, so we must stop it).
We have already gone over all this about 20-25 years ago. Welcome to the internet.
Over the past six months there has been a biased glitch in the columns by The Z man. Sometimes obvious and sometimes subtle. For instance , in today’s column he uses the term “sneak attack”.A word that implies cowardice. He could have used the word “retaliation” but his bias said no. My agreements with Zman have become fewer and fewer.He is oozing the traits of the democrat mouthpiece James Carville….ie…whatever is muttered is to be just the opposite of what I said yesterday.A pity.
The main reason I did not use the word “retaliation” is that it is not the right word to use for a Pearl Harbor style sneak attack.
I don’t Zman. He called you a Democrat. That’s pretty harsh. It’s time to disavow your use of accurate language.
“…in today’s column he uses the term “sneak attack”…” Perhaps instead we should re-open the discussion about the Six Day War of 1967. The narrative is that that sneak attack was justified because one country said another was ‘planning to attack’ … … in light of our newfound awareness of the depth and breadth of propaganda, and the attack, and goal of the attack on the USS Liberty … a logical men these events need to be revisited. After agreeing to peace in March 1940, Stalin planned one more bombing of Helsinki to teach Finland a lesson. The Finns reportedly… Read more »
“A word that implies cowardice. He could have used the word “retaliation” but his bias said no.”
Bollocks. It was cowardly and underhanded and the Jooz specialize in this. If the Iranians had done the same to the Israelis, Western media would be frothing at the mouth and expostulating hatred and invective at the Iranians for this cowardly underhanded trick. Double standards.
And no, what the Israelis did was not retaliation. The Iranians have been minding their own business.
Minding their own business by organizing the Gaza massacre on Israel? These barbarians and their death cult “religion” is a danger to the entire world that isn’t Muslim. Including you.
The Sand Hutus are a threat only to the extent we allow them into our lands. The danger, therefore, is immivasion not Islam per se. Confine them to their own territories and their fangs are effectively drawn.
Nope It IS Islam and their cult of hate for anyone who isn’t buying into their suicidal death wish….here or anywhere.
“the Gaza massacre on Israel” Ah yes, the Gaza Massacre. Another trick of the Zionist-controlled media: strip historical context out, and present anything done by the Palestinians/Iranians/Arabs as coming out of the blue and completely unprovoked and irrational. The Israelis were quietly and peacefully minding their own business when the bloodthirsty Palestinians, screaming “Allah-u-Akbar”, started their massacre of innocent Israeli women and children. What are you doing here, pal? There are enough sites and blogs for the likes of you. I thought this was a quiet oasis where we don’t have to put up with this kind of garbage. Is… Read more »
Looks like I offended a Muslim. Good!!
I’m not one. We all use various aliases on this blog.
Postscript: Though you do definitely sound like a shill. Funny how they come crawling out of the woodwork where Israel is concerned.
It feels like some people had been stuck in the internet of 20 years ago and all of a sudden they freed them into the internet of today. I wonder if they feel that way too?
Haha! Once in a blue moon I’ll turn the radio on- as I read your comment, there was Spawn Hannity quoting you almost word for word. Those dastardly Iranians!
Bit like Israel’s retaliation against the USS Liberty.