Brexit

On Thursday, which I think the EU requires the Brits to call quartidi, the subjects of England vote on whether or not to remain in Europe. The vote to leave, in theory, will compel the British government to negotiate an exit from the EU and paddle the island further into the Atlantic. The timing of the exit and the terms of the deal are not contemplated in the text of the referendum. There may be something in British law that determines these things, but I can find nothing to support that claim.

That is not an unimportant bit in this discussion. It is no secret that the ruling class of England not only wants to remain in the EU, but they dream of a day when Britain is just another administrative zone of Europe, sort of like how the Romans treated Britannia. It is not just that the idea of separate countries has become a heresy. The ruling elite seems to think the time has come to exterminate the British people entirely, at least as an identifiable tribe. As former Lord Chancellor Jack Straw put it, “the English as a race is not worth saving.”

Looking at the polling, the way to bet is that Brexit falls short. There has been a surge in support for leaving and English nationalism bubbling under the surface often goes unnoticed in polls. On the other hand, vote fixing and browbeating do not always show up in the polls either. There is also the fact that people perceive the status quo as the safe choice. Humans are funny that way. Any change meets some natural resistance, even when there is no logic to resistance. Roll it all up and Remain most likely carries the day.

Let us assume, by some miracle, that Brexit wins, what then?

In theory, the British government will begin negotiations with the EU on the formal withdraw of Britain from the EU. In reality, there has to be some political theater first. David Cameron will come under pressure to resign by members of his own party. He staked his reputation on this referendum so a failure to deliver would damage his standing. Plus, the people that really run things may want a scalp to send a message. As the saying goes, kill the chicken to scare the monkeys.

Of course, ousting a Prime Minister is no small thing and it could lead to all sorts of turmoil in the ruling party. Usually when this happens there is a group within the party that has coalesced around a new leader, they are ready to install, once they have  deposed the old leader. But that is not always the case and all hell could break loose once the Cameron is gone. Britain could end up having early elections, which would put things on hold until after the election. In effect, Britain would have a do-over referendum on Brexit.

If we assume that the political fallout is limited to the theatrical, the next step is the process of implementing the intent of the referendum. That will most likely take years as neither side will be in much of a hurry to get on with it. Parliament will surely pass some legislation as a stop gap to keep the current arrangements in place until a deal is done. The EU will set off on a long drawn out process of forming a committee to study the process of forming a committee to appoint a board to review Britain’s exit request.

The hope for all concerned is that the English people, having blown off some steam in the referendum, will go back to their affairs and forget all about it. From time to time the public will be notified that negotiations have taken place in the south of France during the winter or in the Alps during August, but otherwise nothing much will happen. There will no doubt be tales told to the British press about the long hours required to address the millions of details involved in actually leaving the EU.

Polling outfits will be surreptitiously dispatched to keep measuring public sentiment regarding the EU and the referendum. The hope being that opinion will swing the other way and Parliament can then pass an act overturning the referendum. The pressure to reverse the results of the referendum will slowly build over time until either the opposition is worn down or some crisis allows the rulers to act. A recession will be blamed on Brexit and it will be quickly “fixed” by overriding the referendum.

This probably seems like cynicism. After all, Britain is a liberal democracy where the will of the people, as expressed at the ballot box, is respected by the politicians. Our rulers invest a lot of time telling us this and then spend even more time getting us to come out and vote. Then there is the bizarre obsession with getting foreigners to vote in their own lands and come to our lands so they can vote in our elections. You can be forgiven for thinking that voting is important and respected by our rulers.

That has not been the pattern in Europe, or anywhere else in the West, over the last few decades. The voters vote and the political class does whatever it likes, coincidentally in line with the will of their donors and sponsors. The French people voted against the EU Constitution and the rulers promptly ignored them. Other EU countries then cancelled their referenda. The Greeks kept voting for change, only to get more of the same after each election. Despite the rhetoric, voting counts for little.

The reason for this is that what we keep calling liberal democracy is actually corporate democracy. The political class serves the function of the management group in a corporation. The buccaneering billionaires of the global elite are the board of directors, who hire and fire the politicians, based on their performance. The voters are just the minor shareholders who are mustered every once in a while, to endorse the actions of the board as represented by management. The vote is never binding.

Whenever there is shareholder revolt, the board takes it out on management. In theory, the shareholders could overthrow the board as well as management, but this always requires leadership from a large shareholder who is, in most cases, on the board. It may feel like the shareholders are taking control, but in reality, the board is always in control. It is just that the individuals members of the board may make war on one another.

In the case of Britain remaining a sovereign state, the board is of one mind, regardless of what the minor shareholders do tomorrow.

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James LePore
8 years ago

This vote in England is similar to our current presidential campaign. The Brexit people and the Trump people are the last remnants of once great countries. They are howling against the madness, probably one last time.

Jak Black
Jak Black
Reply to  James LePore
8 years ago

…and unfortunately, perhaps a bit too late.

Doug
Doug
Reply to  Jak Black
8 years ago

Resistance to tyranny and tyrants is never futile

Meema
Reply to  James LePore
8 years ago

“…one last time.” That was painful. Truth is often painful, isn’t it?

James LePore
Reply to  Meema
8 years ago

It is, but maybe Doug is right about resistance to tyranny. We can at least hold our heads up.

Doug
Doug
Reply to  James LePore
8 years ago

Never Say Die.

Meema
Reply to  Doug
8 years ago

I’m old enough to understand the value of standing up to tyranny, unto death. Perhaps that’s why they’ve been waiting for my generation to die out so the dumbed down ones, who’d be more pliable, could make the transformation easier. But, alas, they’re aging too so they’re taking their shot now. At least that’s how it seems to me.

Doug
Doug
Reply to  Meema
8 years ago

Lot of truth in what you are saying Meema, lot of truth. Kind of says everything.

Doug
Doug
Reply to  Meema
8 years ago

A crazy idea sovereignty of the people, shall not be infringed, and unalienable God given rights of liberty and self determination is wrong and not possible? Heh… All I know is resistance is never futile, that it is always the dirt people who rescue humanity from itself, from tyrants and tyranny, time and time again, and always will be the dirt people, it’s not rocket science that it all begins with each of us, and what is really happening is not a revolution because of arms or civil war, but an evolution in honesty and first principles that never ends,… Read more »

LetsPlay
LetsPlay
Member
8 years ago

“Where there is smoke, there is fire.” While we have to wait and see how BREXIT fares, it is apparent from near wins in Spain, Duterte, a Manila outsider, winning in the Philippines, the fight put up by Hungary and other countries to fight the immigration pushed by the EU in order to maintain their nationality and sovereignty, that many countries and peoples are fed up with our so-called “betters” abusing us. They have reached a tipping point and are pushing a bad position. Whether or not BREXIT wins, people are speaking up in greater numbers in opposition to the… Read more »

UKer
UKer
8 years ago

I have said plainly before, Out Without A Doubt. Having made the mistake in ’75 of voting In (because I believed, as told, it was merely a trade agreement) but seeing lie after lie piled up on each other since I have at least set myself the task of balancing the books by voting Leave. A small crumb, even if it is all I have. But I am under no doubt the outcome will not be anything like as expected. Since Britain became a minion of the EU we have not only pages of legislation (actually, whole thick weighty volumes… Read more »

LetsPlay
LetsPlay
Member
Reply to  thezman
8 years ago

I beg to differ. It is “always” about the money. The means they employ to enriching themselves is another matter.

Doug
Doug
Reply to  LetsPlay
8 years ago

Always follow the money. Sure there are a few truly sick psychopaths in positions of economic and political power, but regardless, money is what greases the skids of politics and corruption. And the more power, the more grease required.

DFCtomm
Member
8 years ago

Let’s assume, by some miracle, that Brexit wins, what then?

They would have to be destroyed. If England intends to set an example, then the globalists will ensure that it’s a bad one. If they were to succeed then who else might get some ideals?

Edwhy
Edwhy
Reply to  DFCtomm
8 years ago

Let’s be serious here, the little people will not be allowed to democratically decide their own destinies. They might hurt themselves.

Doug
Doug
Reply to  Edwhy
8 years ago

Let’s be serious? OK. If you never stand up or fight for your destiny to begin with, then you ain’t gonna have self determination at all. All your gonna get is being a slave of tyrants or a tyrants dirt nap. At least if you try, it is at worst destiny you made on the spot. At least you withdrew your consent for the sonofabitches. That is a whole hell of a lot more noble and virtuous than giving up without trying.

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
8 years ago

“The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.” – Joseph Stalin.

Given the idiots in EU are now trying to create a social security tax on robots, it’s time for this charade called the EU to end. But I guess the real question is, just how many people is too many for a single governmental body to effectively manage. Is 300 million in the US and 700 million in the EU just too big to be effectively managed and represented by a collective federal government?

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
Reply to  thezman
8 years ago

The Swiss are probably the best at real-time, participative democracy which goes all the way down to each canton deciding what it wants. There isn’t a single issue they can’t petition for and have put on the ballot. Voting here is as common as new apps for a smartphone. Only in Switzerland is buying new fighter jets decided by democratic vote. Want to keep minarets out? There’s a vote for that. Want to kick foreigners out of Switzerland who are found guilty of committing crimes? There’s a vote for that! How about a national income? Yes, there’s even a vote… Read more »

Marina
Marina
Reply to  thezman
8 years ago

Can I stick up for the Yankees for a minute here? I’m half New England Yankee and real old WASPs are a very staid, down to the earth, hardworking and SMALL group of people. They’re hard working, frugal, traditional and relatively conservative in their private lives. My father is a Reagan Democrat who is as baffled by anyone with this SJW bullshit today. New England has been getting hammered by immigration waves for two centuries now, many of whom fused the worst aspects of Puritan cultures with the authoritarian tendencies of their home countries. There is very little Yankee culture… Read more »

Doug
Doug
Reply to  Marina
8 years ago

Yet they vote time and time again for the same statist who create specious diktat that deny’s them the primal rights of self defense, property, wealth and self determination?
Something inherently wrong here with this picture.

Marina
Marina
Reply to  Doug
8 years ago

Most people in blue states are not the unbroken heirs of the original English Puritans. Absent the most rural and least populated parts of New England, there aren’t any counties with predominately English or American (generally that means Borderers/Scots Irish/English) ancestry. The numerically dominant ethnic groups in the Northeast are the Irish and Italians and the culturally dominant are Jews and a mixture of other European ethnic groups. Previous immigration waves hit the Northeast before anywhere else. Very, very, very few of the Northeast’s voters are descendants of the original settlers.

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Marina
Marina
Reply to  Doug
8 years ago

It’s also worth pointing out that the institutions that Yankees actually did found and fund have been totally subverted. Even the schools like Exeter and Andover now mostly service the same cohort as places like Harvard where non-Jewish whites are the most underrepresented ethnic group, relative to their share of the population. It isn’t Yankees that are driving the bullshit coming out of the system today.

Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  Marina
7 years ago

Yankees can’t stand anyone not doing things their way and they never miss a chance to tell everyone else how to live. If we didn’t have Yankees we wouldn’t have mass immigration, affirmative action, de-segragation, strong Federalism and if they could get it taking everyone’s guns. After the civil war they ran the country and they are wholly responsible, along with their leaders the Jews, for the mess we’re in.

LetsPlay
LetsPlay
Member
Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
8 years ago

But even the Swiss have “their” vote counters, don’t they?

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
Reply to  LetsPlay
8 years ago

@ theZman – I think there’s something to the idea of smaller populations doing a better job of managing themselves. We see it in corporations and business too, which his why small companies usually have much lower levels of corruption. I would agree that the Swiss model wouldn’t translate well into a country of 300-million, however, it’s one reason I am very much against the EU. Countries should remain sovereign and the citizens should control their own governments based on the rule of law, their own culture, customs and language. The EU experiment has proven that this scientific model of… Read more »

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
8 years ago

Sorry – forgot to make the comment about your “…mostly Alemanni”. Today, roughly 25% of the Swiss population are foreigners; “auslanders” and expats like myself. It is not uncommon to find people from Ireland, UK, France, Italy, Croatia, Spain, Portugal, Russia, Romania and the occasional American, Canadian and a Mexican. While the Swiss hate to admit it, most of the work that really drives their economy is done by professional foreigners like myself who are engineers, chemists, doctors or other skilled professionals. They don’t like it, but they can’t live without us.

Wayne Parker
Wayne Parker
Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
8 years ago

The European Common Market always made sense to me; the EU not so for the very reasons we see today with respect to immigration controls, security interests, etc.

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
Reply to  Wayne Parker
8 years ago

@ Wayne Parker – Yes, very good point. I think this is what the pro-EU people fail to realize; the EU in it’s current form isn’t necessary at all. The Common Market worked quite well in the past and can continue to do so without direction from the incompetent fools in Brussels.

Doug
Doug
Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
8 years ago

The bottom line truth is, the scum oligarchy will do whatever it takes to quell any act or form of secession and abolition of its corrupt power by the dirt people. Everything else is utter bullshit. They despise the dirt people, yet at the same time they need the dirt people because they need wage slaves to keep the money that feeds their greed flowing. Who else will supply the labor and productivity that creates the wealth to begin with they steal, “Syrian Refugee’s”? It is when it begins to dawn on people they don’t need the oligarchy that serious… Read more »

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
Reply to  Doug
8 years ago

@ Doug – What we are seeing is a reaction to what I refer to at work as the MDL or “Maximum Dirt Level”. This is the point at which you finally decide to tidy your desk or clean up the workshop. Europeans and Americans have reached their MDL with respect to their current government situations and are now doing something. Thankfully, people are not static, and bad situations can be reversed.

Doug
Doug
Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
7 years ago

A most salient observation Karl. Could not agree with you more.

Saml Adams
Saml Adams
8 years ago

Am reminded of the exchange between Charles I and Oliver Cromwell in the underrated 1970 movie.

Charles I: “Democracy, Mr. Cromwell, was a Greek drollery, based on the foolish notion that there extraordinary possibilities in very ordinary people”

Cromwell: “It is the ordinary people who would most readily lay down their lives in defense of your realm. It is simply that being “ordinary”, they would prefer to be asked and not told”

Well, we know how the play ended for Charles….

Ben H
Member
8 years ago

You’re right. The model is Greece where they voted for the party they weren’t supposed to, and voted the wrong way on their referendum, and all it led to was them getting the same deal as before, but a little bit worse.

Edwhy
Edwhy
8 years ago

In eVery EU country that has held a referendum, the people have voted for exit, France, Holland, and Ireland. The Brussels Bureaucratic Tyranny ignored the first two and browbeat the Irish people into capitulation. With One-world govt in sight( to the true believers,…..um, Germany) the Brits will not be allowed to delay the inevitable.

UKer
UKer
8 years ago

My act of supporting my country is done, for now. I have put my X in the Leave box, but I guess it is up to the traitors to count the votes of the Remain sheep.

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
Reply to  UKer
8 years ago

@ UKer – Good luck! I hope the majority of your countrymen, like you, have the sense to vote “Leave”. There are many here on the continent who are cheering you on.

Doug
Doug
Reply to  UKer
8 years ago

Bravo!
God bless you and your freedom!

Buckaroo Banzai
Buckaroo Banzai
8 years ago

Well that sums up the Brexit charade pretty nicely.

Doug
Doug
Reply to  Buckaroo Banzai
8 years ago

The roots of tyranny the Fabian’s and Jacobin’s planted run deep. One World Order. And you’ll like it bitchez! Those of the west who presume to rule souls, never get the dirt people. It is the crisis of legitimacy, and the timeless Chinese axiom of the Mandate of Heaven on Kings, rolled into one. While they strive to deny their subjects of the spiritual and plural nature of the dirt people and their connection between the dirt and heaven, they themselves become blind to consent, profound nature of consent, how it is something that can never be taken, or coerced,… Read more »

John
8 years ago

They have the vote. Brexit wins. Nothing happens, or as the Brits would say ‘Get on with it now!”

Will the UK citizen whose pub was closed because it was to close to a newly built mosque, whose son is forced to recite the Shahada at school ‘For Diversity’, and whose daughter is gang raped but the police don’t want to push ‘That Community’ to hard, is he going to just …wait?

If the men of Britain have become so civilized and peaceful, then in fact it is over for England.

Doug
Doug
Reply to  John
8 years ago

Nothing happens? I don’t think so. See this below, it is what millions of Brits are telling the oligarchy. Millions. Nothing happens? The fact they are trying like drowning rats to suppress recession from their tyranny, is hardly nothing.

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james wilson
james wilson
8 years ago

You must be right. If Brexit passes it will simply die on the vine. It would seem that in a democracy ideas both good and popular have no traction without leaders determined to see them through. That is what Britain lacks and as we have seen time and again it is what the US lacks. The political class has captured every route to power. Trump, bless him, although he hardly has one thought in his head connected to another, has demonstrated that there is a great well of civilizing power to be tapped and directed which is but milling about… Read more »

SgtBob
8 years ago

Excellent piece, as usual. There was this guy in Italy, Mussolini or something, who believed everybody should be part of a corporation — farmer’s corporation, actor’s corporation, welder’s corporation. The EU elite have taken that idea to its next step, eliminating the commoners from decision-making membership.

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
Reply to  SgtBob
8 years ago

I think you are speaking of the guilds, which pre-date our modern unions, back into medieval times.